Category: Society

  • Linear Rain Band Forecast Missed Again — Hokuriku Follows Chiba

    A linear rain band formed in Ishikawa and Toyama prefectures in the early hours of the 27th, triggering an emergency heavy rain warning — but the Japan Meteorological Agency (JMA) failed to predict it in advance. Following the miss during the August 13 Chiba downpour, this second “missed forecast” sparked a mix of reactions on 5ch: some defended the agency, arguing preparation should simply assume forecasts will fail; others voiced broader distrust of weather forecasting or called for greater use of AI.

    The Level 5 emergency heavy rain warnings issued for Ishikawa and Toyama on the morning of the 27th were triggered by record-breaking rainfall from a linear rain band. However, the JMA was unable to predict the first band that formed in the early morning hours or warn in advance that danger was imminent. The same thing happened during the August 13 Chiba downpour, highlighting ongoing problems with forecast accuracy.

    According to the JMA, linear rain bands formed three times in Ishikawa on the 27th — at 3:08 a.m., 6:19 a.m., and 8:48 a.m. — and twice in Toyama, at 2:58 a.m. and 6:08 a.m.

    The JMA issues both a “half-day-ahead forecast” and an “imminent forecast,” the latter indicating a heightened chance of a linear rain band forming within three hours, to urge caution. The imminent forecast in particular is a newly launched, higher-precision service that only began operating this past May.

    Source: asahi.com / Original article here

    3AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:12
    Can't be helped
    If they tried to predict every single one of these, there'd be no end to it
    It'll just end up like the boy who cried wolf anyway
    162AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:50
    Re: #3
    Yeah, that's right!
    188AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:59
    Re: #3
    They're just predicting based on past data
    Once decades' worth of data piles up, they'll probably start getting it right
    4AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:12
    Genuine question for anyone who actually knows this stuff —
    if resources get diverted to flood-damage response and it causes a labor shortage, will small regional sash (window frame) manufacturers lose work? Go under?
    6AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:13
    Re: #4
    Toyama's actually a major sash-manufacturing region, you know
    10AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:14
    Re: #6
    So? Does that mean less work?
    138AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:43
    Re: #6
    That's a troll, don't engage.
    7AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:13

    8AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:14
    Maybe they just don't have data for storms coming in from the north?
    180AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:55
    Re: #8
    Maybe that's it
    Once enough data builds up over time, it'll gradually start hitting the mark
    12AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:14
    Just fire them all and let AI do it
    26AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:18
    Re: #12
    I mean, they're already using AI for this, aren't they?
    177AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:54
    Re: #12
    AI makes plenty of mistakes too

    And hey, perfect liability shield, right?
    22AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:18
    Even regular weather forecasts are given as percentages on the assumption they might be wrong
    There's no way a perfect prediction is even possible
    57AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:30
    Re: #22
    You'd think they could at least get "rain or shine" right. The past few years, sites like tenki.jp keep forecasting sunny and it rains, or forecasting rain and it's blazing sunny all day. And they want you to pay for premium on top of that lol
    123AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:41
    Re: #57
    tenki.jp's quality has been the same since it launched decades ago
    It's never once actually helped me but I still check it out of habit
    27AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:18
    The JMA's up against nature itself, yet it sure gets slammed hard for every miss
    143AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:44
    Re: #27
    The economic analysts on TV predicting the Nikkei average get way less flak.
    34AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:20
    Not long ago when Kanto was cool, they were saying autumn would come early this year, and now they're saying the lingering summer heat is brutal
    Makes you want to say their accuracy's dropping — that's how little I trust them
    43AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:22
    Re: #34
    Of course accuracy tanks the moment something outside their usual patterns shows up
    54AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:29
    These days most people probably just judge for themselves off the online rain radar imagery
    95AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:38
    Re: #54
    Linear rain bands are actually the easier case, since the near-term is relatively predictable
    Recent guerrilla downpours (sudden, localized cloudbursts) feel like rain clouds just spawn out of nowhere
    55AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:29
    Asahi should put some effort into helping rescue the disaster areas too, you know.
    148AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:45
    Re: #55
    They're too busy DMing people on X for video footage to post, no way they've got time for that
    87AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:37
    Is the new rice crop gonna get flooded before harvest and send prices up again?
    93AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:37
    Re: #87
    Nobody's buying it anyway, so who cares
    125AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:41
    Re: #87
    Bought some new rice today. Miyazaki-grown Koshihikari, ¥1,999 before tax.
    124AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:41
    Re: #1
    With that in mind, well, get a load of this lol


    [Weather] JMA issues 12-hour-advance linear rain band forecast — risk of major flood disaster surging in Shizuoka, Aichi, Gifu, and Mie prefectures [Gure★]
    https://asahi.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1787818778/
    186AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:59
    Re: #124 Guess it's moved south too now, huh lol

    160AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:49
    Ironic dilemma: typhoons, which we can actually predict, usually aren't that catastrophic, while guerrilla downpours and linear rain bands — which we can't predict — are often the ones that turn into real disasters
    165AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:51
    Re: #160
    Maybe that's actually a sign of progress — the remaining hard cases are just the ones that are genuinely hard to predict
    175AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:53
    Re: #160
    Dangerous cold fronts too
    A normal cold front's no big deal, but the dangerous kind can spawn tornadoes
    163AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:51
    Doesn't matter if they predict it or not, it's not like it stops the rain
    170AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:52
    Re: #163
    Knowing a few hours ahead could let people evacuate at night before it hits, though
    167AnonymousAug 27, 2026 18:52
    Isn't accurate prediction just genuinely hard?
    If rough guessing is good enough, even an amateur can spot a nasty-looking rain cloud
    There's tons of information out there now
    With humidity like a sauna, a typhoon nearby, and a weather map showing rain clouds ready to dump — heavy rain is basically guaranteed
    It's actually weirder to be caught off guard
    190AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:00
    Re: #167
    They pop up out of nowhere sometimes though
    Might need data on terrain, whether there's a data center or factory nearby, highways, and other heat sources from human activity too
    201AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:03
    Re: #167
    When I'm bored I check the rain radar sometimes, and even on a clearly sunny day there are red patches of rain clouds popping up here and there — it's just hopeless. Even if they could predict it, the infrastructure still isn't built to withstand torrential rain anyway
    200AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:03
    NHK in the Reiwa era is truly useful, alright
    207AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:04
    When I was in elementary school
    my parents' house had water under the floor
    Namu Amida Butsu (a Buddhist prayer, roughly "rest in peace")

    Background and Key Points

    The JMA’s linear rain band (“senjo kousetai”) alerts operate on two tracks: a half-day-ahead outlook and, since this past May, a three-hour “imminent forecast” — a genuinely new product with barely three months of live data behind it when it missed both the August 13 Chiba band and this one in Ishikawa/Toyama on the 27th. The Level 5 emergency warning it eventually triggered is Japan’s top tier on a five-level scale, meaning a disaster is already assessed as underway or imminent — it’s a damage-scale alert, not a prediction tool, which is part of why “missing” a forecast and “reacting late” with Level 5 are really two separate failures being blamed on one agency.

    The thread’s actual fault line isn’t forecasting-vs-no-forecasting, it’s whether the miss reflects an inherent physical limit or a fixable institutional one: posters who invoked “just assume it’ll fail” or noted linear bands are relatively more tractable than sudden guerrilla downpours were arguing prediction has a hard ceiling, while the AI proponents and those citing accumulating data implied better modeling is just a matter of time and volume.

    What the thread never engages with is that the “imminent forecast” is only months old — judging it against decades-old typhoon-tracking accuracy, as several posts implicitly do, sets an unfair bar. It also conflates the JMA, a public agency, with commercial sites like tenki.jp, a separate operator with its own model and track record, as though one failure indicts both.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “[JMA] Linear Rain Band Forecast Missed Again — This Time in Hokuriku, Following Chiba.”

  • “I Want to Swim in a Women’s Swimsuit” — One Man’s Earnest Plea: Can Pools Refuse to Let Him Wear It?

    An article reporting on a consultation sent to Bengo4.com (a legal advice site) from a man who wants to swim in a women’s swimsuit went viral on 5ch’s News Speed+ board. The thread spiraled into a debate covering the different exposure limits allowed for women’s versus men’s swimwear, right down to the exact wording of the Minor Offenses Act that regulates public exposure. Some posts nostalgically reminisced about old-school swimwear customs like school-issued swimsuits and fundoshi loincloths.

    “I Want to Swim in a Women’s Swimsuit” — One Man’s Earnest Plea: Can Pools Refuse to Let Him Wear It? – Bengo4.com

    August 27, 2026, 10:30 AM

    Not being able to wear the swimsuit you want to wear at the pool is painful — that’s the kind of concern that reaches Bengo4.com every summer.

    Source: bengo4.com / Original article here

    7AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:06
    Not being able to wear the swimsuit I want to wear at the pool is such a pain
    90AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:21
    Re: #7
    Haha, is that a Hazard Lab illustrator's work? (Hazard Lab is a Japanese science-news site famous for its quirky illustrations)
    8AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:06
    There was that famous image, wasn't there — the one with some old guy having the time of his life at the beach in a barely-there swimsuit while a lifeguard looks on totally bewildered.
    24AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:10
    Isn't a "Beijing bikini" good enough for this? (slang for men rolling their shirt up to bare their belly in the heat)
    149AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:33
    Re: #24
    I actually saw that for real when I visited the Great Wall.
    40AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:12
    Women get to cover their nipples 😡

    It's unfair that men can't cover theirs 😡

    Men's nipples are an erogenous zone too 😡

    Honestly, if you frame it like that, it might actually fly.
    56AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:15
    Re: #40
    Then just wear long sleeves and long pants that cover your skin, like in Islamic dress.
    Wanting to wear a school swimsuit is just being a pervert anyway.
    Even actual women don't wear school swimsuits outside of school.
    72AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:17
    Re: #40
    So as long as the nipples are covered, a bikini bottom is fine?
    51AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:14
    Doesn't drawing everyone's stares like that count as a crime on its own?
    86AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:20
    A rokushaku fundoshi (traditional loincloth) is totally fine — back in my school days we were all made to swim in the ocean wearing one of those.
    94AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:22
    Re: #86
    For ocean swimming there's actually something called a "black cat fundoshi," you know.
    107AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:25
    Re: #86
    I've still got mine packed away somewhere.
    87AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:21
    Case closed after another customer dialed 110 to call the cops. (´・ω・`)
    93AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:22
    "Another person who wrote in said that, despite being male, he wants to swim at his local public pool wearing a women's school swimsuit."
    That's one hell of a sentence lol
    100AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:24
    Re: #93
    As long as it covers the whole body, what's the problem? "School swimsuit" covers everything from cheap to fancy anyway.
    104AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:25
    Re: #93
    If they just made a men's version of the school swimsuit, problem solved.
    114AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:26
    Just haul him in under the Minor Offenses Act —

    Article 20: Any person who, in a place exposed to public view, exposes their buttocks, thighs, or other body parts in a manner likely to provoke public disgust.
    116AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:27
    Re: #114
    By that logic they'd arrest you just for your face lol
    121AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:28
    Re: #114
    >exposes their buttocks, thighs, or other body parts

    By that standard, every woman over 30 wearing a miniskirt would qualify lol
    115AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:26
    Re: #104
    Reminds me of that "Dara-san" incident from the Reiwa era… (apparently referencing a notorious viral incident/figure)
    147AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:33
    Re: #115
    It was something like this, right?
    https://www.footmark.co.jp/wp/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/img2024_main.jpg
    204AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:48
    Re: #147
    There's a Billiken statue mixed in there.
    131AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:30
    Re: #1
    First of all, are there even women who actually wear T-back thongs?
    140AnonymousAug 27, 2026 22:32
    Re: #131
    Women sometimes wear a T-back when they're in something like a one-piece outfit, where regular underwear lines would show through and look obvious.

    Background and Key Points

    I want to swim in a women’s swimsuit — pool refusal thread

    Bengo4.com runs a regular column translating legal-advice submissions its lawyers receive, and swimwear disputes are apparently a recurring summer feature. The Japanese legal hook is the Minor Offenses Act (軽犯罪法), Article 1, Item 20, which criminalizes “exposing buttocks, thighs, or other body parts in public in a way likely to provoke disgust” — a deliberately vague standard from 1948 that predates modern swimwear norms and leaves enforcement to local police and, ultimately, individual pool staff. There is no explicit ban on cross-gender swimwear in Japanese law; refusals at the pool level are a matter of facility house rules (often justified as “causing a disturbance” among other patrons), not statute.

    The thread’s actual disagreement wasn’t over whether the man should be allowed to swim in a women’s suit — posters mostly treated that as a lost cause — but over whether the underlying complaint (that men can’t cover their nipples while women’s tops are designed to) reflects a genuine, defensible asymmetry in modesty standards, or whether it’s a fig leaf for wanting to wear revealing/fetishized swimwear (the “school swimsuit” references). One side argued the nipple-exposure double standard is logically sound; the other dismissed the whole framing as pretextual.

    What the thread never addresses is that pools refusing entry over swimwear are almost never invoking the Minor Offenses Act directly — that law targets public indecency broadly and is rarely the actual basis cited by facility operators, who instead rely on contractual “right of refusal” clauses in their usage terms. Readers unfamiliar with Japan may assume a criminal statute is being enforced against this man specifically, when in practice it’s private venue policy, with the criminal law cited by posters mostly as speculative color.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “‘I Want to Swim in a Women’s Swimsuit’ — One Man’s Earnest Plea: Can Pools Refuse to Let Him Wear It?”.

  • Hiding a Developmental Disorder to Get Hired: “I’m Terrified of Being Found Out” — 5ch: “Destroyed Hundreds of Thousands of Yen in Equipment on Day One”

    An ABEMA TIMES article about a man working while hiding his developmental disorder became a talking point on 5ch. The thread saw a wave of real workplace stories — “you get found out eventually, no matter how well you hide it,” “I had a coworker who caused trouble after getting hired” — alongside comments pointing out how welfare and disability-pension support systems fail to reach the people who actually need them.

    Hiding a Developmental Disorder Through Job Hunting → Man Now Working Says “I’m Scared of Being Found Out,” “Pay-wise, Regular Employment Is…” — Where Workplace “Reasonable Accommodation” Stands Today and What’s Still Missing

    Thu, Aug 27, 14:45 JST

    ABEMA TIMES

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    5AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:00
    That "meri-deme" thing kind of blew my mind.
    Is that actually a normal way to phrase it?
    114AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:36
    Re: #5
    At work we'd probably say "pro-con" (プロコン), though that doesn't really land either. First time I've heard "meri-deme" (メリデメ, short for merit/demerit — pros and cons).
    8AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:01
    Does disability hiring quota employment actually cover developmental disorders?
    166AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:51
    Re: #8
    Nah, developmental disorders are hard to prove definitively, so it doesn't really count.
    Everyone's got some traits that look "developmental disorder-ish" — nobody's a perfect human being.
    9AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:01
    Well, if it's mild enough to hide, of course people hide it.
    This country discriminates like it's nothing.
    113AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:35
    Re: #9
    Even when you can't actually hide it, on paper you're "able-bodied," so people come down hard on you.
    You get treated as lazy instead of incapable.
    10AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:02
    Even once they're hired, can they actually do the job?
    91AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:25
    Re: #10
    They're so bad at picking things up that everyone stuck training them is burned out.
    13AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:04
    Not enough doctors → expand med school quotas → everyone flocks to low-lawsuit-risk fields like cosmetic surgery or psychiatry → now there are more doctors, so they need more patients → they start inventing bogus diagnoses to pad the numbers ← we are here
    78AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:18
    Re: #13
    The rush into cosmetic surgery is actually because the residency-matching system capped the number of dermatology and ophthalmology residency slots in the cities.
    They restricted urban slots specifically to push more doctors into internal medicine and surgery in rural areas, and this is the result.
    By the way, cosmetic surgery actually carries bigger lawsuit risk.
    If anything, they go in assuming they'll be sued and keep lawyers on retainer for it, so in that sense they're covered.
    21AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:05
    You can just get welfare ("namapo") without working, right?
    If a low-paying job is going to wreck your mental health, you're better off just going on welfare.
    45AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:09
    Re: #21
    Because this is a crazy quasi-socialist country with insane pressure to work…
    22AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:05
    Isn't there any way to help people who are self-aware that they're causing trouble?
    40AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:09
    Re: #22
    There are plenty, but this is a country obsessed with short-term money, so nobody bothers.
    25AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:05
    I knew someone who graduated from a special-needs school but lied and said they graduated from a regular high school while working. They made mistakes constantly, so a sharp coworker suspected a developmental disorder and told them to go get checked out at a hospital.
    121AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:38
    Re: #25
    They wrote a fake school name on their résumé?
    138AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:43
    Re: #25
    If the high school name or department on the résumé is false, that's grounds for disciplinary dismissal, you know.
    38AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:08
    What's the deal with people who snap at the drop of a hat?
    It's exhausting whether it's a coworker or a client.
    50AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:10
    Re: #38
    Throwing tantrums is a classic trait of developmental disorders.
    46AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:10
    Don't worry. Even major companies are full of people with borderline intellectual functioning.
    51AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:10
    Speaking as someone on the disability side of things — people hiding a developmental disorder get found out 100% of the time. 100%.
    56AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:11
    I dropped out of high school, but I got my Bookkeeping Level 2, Certified Administrative Scrivener, and Real Estate Transaction Agent licenses — and still nobody will hire me. I ended up doing warehouse picking through a staffing agency.
    Even with certifications, they don't trust a middle-school-only grad — "you're probably trash anyway" — I've had my documents thrown back at me in interviews, had tea thrown at me.
    Is dropping out really that bad?
    When I said I quit because I couldn't take the bullying anymore, they screamed at me, "That's just because you've got no guts!"
    I'm a loser until the day I die.
    72AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:16
    Re: #56
    Normally you'd get screened out at the document-review stage.
    125AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:39
    Re: #56
    Why didn't you just take the high-school equivalency exam ("daiken")?
    201AnonymousAug 27, 2026 20:08
    Re: #56
    A bookkeeping certification only really matters when a new grad is trying to sneak into an accounting job, or when someone with experience is job-hopping.
    58AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:13
    Anyone who's constantly staring at their phone while walking is 100% attention-deficit — i.e. ADHD — no matter how firmly they believe they're neurotypical.
    70AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:16
    Re: #58
    By that logic 70% of people have ADHD. Guess phone-walking needs mandatory jail time, no suspended sentences.
    64AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:14
    These days, don't pre-employment aptitude tests screen out a lot of these cases?
    73AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:17
    Re: #64
    The SPI3 test is built to screen out developmental disorders now.
    More companies are also bringing in "scouter"-like unsuitability tests to flag misfits.
    77AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:18
    Wouldn't hiding a disability to get hired be grounds for disciplinary action?
    80AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:20
    Re: #77
    Only if it interferes with your work — assuming it doesn't, lol.
    99AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:29
    Had a guy on-site who was hiding a developmental disorder.
    Day one: destroyed hundreds of thousands of yen worth of equipment.
    Month one: wrecked a machine we'd put him in charge of — millions of yen in damage.
    After that: three personal-injury accidents during his commute.
    Also crashed a company truck.

    It was an absolute disaster.
    137AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:42
    Re: #99
    The fact that he didn't mentally or physically break down and quit before all that is honestly impressive.
    Most people couldn't keep a job that long.
    180AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:56
    Re: #99
    Sounds like ADHD.
    142AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:43
    I feel the urge to run away whenever I'm stuck doing simple repetitive work — I think I might have a developmental disorder.
    147AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:45
    Re: #142
    If anything, only ever wanting to do simple repetitive work is more the developmental-disorder trait.
    176AnonymousAug 27, 2026 19:53
    Re: #142
    You're just one of those people who's quick to slap a "XX disorder" label on themselves.

    Background and Key Points

    Japan formalizes disability employment through a legally mandated quota (法定雇用率): private employers above a size threshold must ensure disabled workers make up a set share of staff, currently 2.5% and scheduled to rise to 2.7% by mid-2026, with fines for shortfalls. Whether someone counts toward that quota depends on holding one of three official handbooks — physical, intellectual (療育手帳), or the mental health and welfare handbook (精神障害者保健福祉手帳), which is the one developmental disorders (ADHD, ASD, learning disabilities) fall under once formally diagnosed and registered. This produces Japan’s open/closed employment split: “open” (オープン) hires disclose and get accommodations but often at reduced pay and status, while “closed” (クローズ) hires — the article’s subject — compete on equal footing but carry the constant risk of exposure. Screening tools like the SPI3 aptitude test, now widely used across new-grad hiring, are cited in the thread as increasingly able to flag atypical response patterns before interviews even happen.

    The thread’s real fault line isn’t over whether workplace struggles happen — those accounts are treated as unremarkable — but over blame: several posts frame concealment as a firing-worthy deception once it causes damage, while others insist the hiring system itself, which screens out disclosed disability almost automatically, leaves people no real choice but to hide.

    What the thread gets wrong: post #166 claims developmental disorders “don’t really count” for quota purposes — in fact, anyone who obtains the mental health handbook does count, so the real barrier is diagnosis and disclosure, not eligibility. The posts also never mention that Japan’s reasonable-accommodation duty was extended to private employers by law only in April 2024, meaning the “accommodation” the article’s title references is still a very new, unevenly enforced obligation.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News Plus) thread “Hiding a Developmental Disorder Through Job Hunting → Man Now Working Says “I’m Scared of Being Found Out,” “Pay-wise, Regular Employment Is…”.”

  • Osaka Gov. Yoshimura Calls on Hokkaido for ‘Secondary Capital’ Pact — Gov. Suzuki: ‘We Need a Multi-Polar Growth Model’

    Osaka Governor Hirofumi Yoshimura has called on Hokkaido Governor Naomichi Suzuki to sign an agreement toward realizing a “secondary capital” that could take over capital functions in the event of a major disaster. The thread’s discussion ranged from whether Hokkaido is suited as a defense stronghold and issues like heavy snowfall, to distrust of an Osaka-only plan, and even speculation that this could be a step toward a regional-state (dōshūsei) system.

    Toward realizing a “secondary capital” that would take over capital functions during a major disaster, Governor Suzuki revealed his intention to sign an agreement with Osaka Prefecture and seek simultaneous designation for both.

    At around 10 a.m. on August 27, Governor Suzuki and Sapporo Mayor Akimoto met with Minister for Regional Revitalization Kikawada, who oversees the secondary capital initiative, and handed him a request document calling for the plan’s realization.

    The secondary capital initiative aims to serve as a backup hub for capital functions during a major disaster, as well as to ease the concentration of population and economic activity in Tokyo.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    5AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:31
    Capital functions and defense functions go hand in hand everywhere in the world, so why not just have the four cities with defense bases — Sapporo, Sendai, Osaka (Itami), and Kumamoto — team up?
    18AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:36
    Re: #5
    If they're going as far as dispersing ministries, whether the place offers a living environment that satisfies bureaucrats and their families should probably take priority.
    6AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:32
    Could Sapporo hold up if Russia invaded?
    Isn't Tokyo more solid?
    166AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:29
    Re: #6
    If anyone seriously attacked Japan, they'd start with a naval blockade to starve us out first, so it wouldn't matter much where the capital is.
    9AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:32
    They probably want to spin this as 'it's not just about Osaka'…
    188AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:45
    Re: #9
    They basically admitted Osaka alone can't check every box.
    It's more like 'no way we're letting only you have all the fun.'
    10AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:33
    Ah well, that pretty much kills off Sendai's, Nagoya's, Hiroshima's, and Fukuoka's chances too.
    25AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:37
    The way they're doing this, lol.
    Do they know full well Hokkaido would never actually get picked and are just saying 'let's cooperate' anyway?
    32AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:40
    Re: #25
    Sounds like inviting the plain-looking girl to a group mixer just to round out the numbers.
    26AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:38
    Maybe it's actually true that Ishin (the Osaka-based party) is aiming for a regional-state (dōshūsei) system.
    So under the 'secondary capital' banner, they want to build up regional capitals?
    68AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:51
    Re: #26
    Hokkai Region — Sapporo
    Tohoku Region — Sendai
    North Kanto Region — Utsunomiya
    South Kanto Region — Chiyoda Ward
    Koshinetsu Region — Niigata City
    Hokuriku Region — Kanazawa
    Tokai Region — Nagoya
    Kinki Region — Umeda Ward
    Chugoku Region — Hiroshima City
    Shikoku Region — Takamatsu
    Kyushu Region — Fukuoka City
    Ryukyu Region — Naha
    27AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:38
    Rather than a 'secondary capital,' just dispersing capital functions would be enough, no?
    46AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:44
    Re: #27
    Connect everything with a high-speed network so core functions can be taken over in an emergency — isn't that the bare minimum goal here?
    29AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:40
    Osaka is absolutely a non-starter
    34AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:41
    Hokkaido has a low risk of getting hit by a natural disaster at the same time as Tokyo.
    Any place that would take damage simultaneously with Tokyo in a Nankai Trough megaquake is out of the question.
    92AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:58
    Re: #34
    Fukuoka: 'Yeah, fair enough, lol' (せやな — Kansai dialect for 'that's right')
    38AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:41
    First off, Sapporo's out — it's buried in snow for half the year.
    40AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:42
    Re: #38
    Even if it's basically dormant, seems like it'd be fine to just park the Diet (parliament) in Hokkaido.
    94AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:58
    This 'secondary capital' thing is nothing but this guy's ego, going on about 'third time's the charm.'
    97AnonymousAug 27, 2026 16:59
    Re: #94
    Seriously, this guy's still around, lol — mixing up the 'secondary capital' plan with the 'Osaka Metropolis' plan.
    101AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:01
    Yoshimura: 'I will never again attempt the Osaka Metropolis plan.'
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G8w7sKFaoAA_6qV.jpg
    Yoshimura: 'I will never again pursue the Osaka Metropolis plan.'
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GfFFN6raoAA6anK.jpg
    106AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:02
    This… did he actually say this?
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HE0WhjdbwAExppv.jpg
    127AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:10
    Secondary capital infrastructure development plan


    Expo infrastructure development plan


    They match.
    137AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:15
    How exactly are you supposed to travel all that way from Tokyo during a massive disaster?
    This is a colossal waste of tax money.
    139AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:18
    Re: #137
    Expo, Olympics, Asian Games, secondary capital — they just want an excuse for infrastructure spending.
    145AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:22
    Re: #137
    Not just in Tokyo — right after a disaster, people stay put at first.
    The workers needed for recovery stay behind, while the elderly, children, and women evacuate elsewhere and get support.

    Even in the Great East Japan Earthquake, because of the radioactive contamination issue, I'd bet quite a few people sent their wives and kids off to another prefecture for safety.
    154AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:25
    Re: #137
    It's to keep Japan running.
    In a major disaster, Tokyoites get let go — that's a whole lot of self-importance.
    146AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:22
    Just change the capital every hundred years — after five hundred years, won't everywhere basically look like Tokyo?
    149AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:23
    Re: #146
    The capital is Kyoto.
    What on earth are you on about (written in Kansai dialect).
    160AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:28
    Re: #146
    If anything, hasn't Tokyo become more like Kansai over the past 100 years?
    192AnonymousAug 27, 2026 17:46
    Ishin's 5-point wish list to the national government

    1. Hold Diet sessions in Osaka
    2. Strengthen Osaka's fire department
    3. Cut taxes for Osaka only
    4. Build out Osaka's infrastructure
    5. Give Osaka more national tax revenue

    Background and Key Points

    For readers unfamiliar with Japanese domestic politics: the “secondary capital” (副首都) concept is a legislative push, championed mainly by Osaka’s Ishin no Kai, to designate a city that could take over government functions if Tokyo were crippled by disaster — most pointedly a Nankai Trough megaquake, the government’s worst-case seismic scenario for the Pacific coast. It’s distinct from the decades-old debate over relocating the capital outright, and distinct from Yoshimura’s earlier “Osaka Metropolis plan” (大阪都構想), which would have restructured Osaka City into special wards like Tokyo’s — a proposal Osaka voters rejected twice, in 2015 and 2020, after which Yoshimura publicly vowed not to revive it. Suzuki’s Hokkaido, led by Sapporo, is one of several regional capitals in this conversation, alongside Sendai, Nagoya, Fukuoka and others tied to Japan’s Self-Defense Force bases.

    The thread’s real fault line isn’t disaster logistics but motive: posters split between treating Hokkaido as a genuine geographic hedge (distant from a Nankai Trough hit, though vulnerable to Russia-adjacent security concerns and heavy winter snow) versus reading the outreach as Osaka recruiting a token partner to make a one-prefecture push look national — the “plain girl invited to round out the mixer” line captures that skepticism directly.

    What outsiders likely miss is that this same push overlaps almost exactly with Osaka’s Expo 2025 infrastructure buildout, which posters flagged as sharing planning documents — suggesting “secondary capital” status functions partly as a durable justification for continued public works spending in Osaka rather than a neutral, nationwide contingency framework.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Newsplus) thread “Osaka Gov. Yoshimura Reaches Out — Agreement with Hokkaido Sought for ‘Secondary Capital,’ Gov. Suzuki: ‘We Need a Multi-Polar Growth Model’.”

  • Kioxia Issues ‘Regarding Certain Media Reports’ Statement Following Iwate New Plant Leak

    On August 27, 2026, Kioxia Holdings published a document titled “Regarding Certain Media Reports.” The statement appears to be a response to an earlier Nikkei report about construction of a new plant in Iwate Prefecture (with investment topping ¥1 trillion). On 5ch, commenters noted this fits the familiar “template” pattern where reports leak ahead of official announcements and still turn out accurate, worried about disciplinary action against the employee behind the leak, and reacted to the stock price surging after the announcement.

    Regarding Certain Media Reports | Kioxia Holdings Corporation

    August 27, 2026

    Kioxia Holdings Corporation

    Source: kioxia-holdings.com / Original article here

    6AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:00
    The classic template for when a report leaks before the official announcement
    105AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:28
    Re: #6
    Waiting to see how they punish the employee who leaked it
    131AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:45
    Re: #6
    Such a textbook pattern you wouldn't even need to ask ChatGPT ("Chappy" is 5ch slang for ChatGPT)
    8AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:01
    Re: #1
    Kioxia to build new memory manufacturing building in Iwate Prefecture — investment tops ¥1 trillion [119158863]
    https://greta.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/poverty/1787783518/
    53AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:13
    Re: #8
    Wondered who started this — turns out the source article's paywalled

    Guessing an employee let it slip
    11AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:02
    So, which stock should I buy?
    25AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:07
    Re: #11
    The power company, or whichever "Heavy Industries" makes the gas turbines for power generation
    93AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:22
    Re: #11
    If you want a stable life,
    just buy variable-rate 10-year Japanese government savings bonds.
    Behind every smug flex post on social media there's a pile of people who got wiped out — and somewhere out there, a train is stopped again today (a dark dig at stock-loss suicides that delay trains)
    14AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:04
    Nikkei spreading fake news again?
    18AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:05
    Re: #14
    When a company says "this wasn't announced by us," it's almost always confirming the leak was accurate
    127AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:44
    Re: #14
    Get some media literacy
    22AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:06
    Kioxia's going to lose the competition and go under, isn't it —
    Chinese companies are on the rise
    44AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:11
    Re: #22
    Kind of telling when one of your biggest shareholders is a rival company
    42AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:10
    They're basically saying "we're running a cartel here, quit reporting unnecessary stuff"
    43AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:11
    Interest rates are high on things like this, so they shouldn't build it with debt. Do a public share offering — at least ¥5 trillion, maybe max it out around ¥25 trillion.

    Everyone would be thrilled, lolololol
    46AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:11
    Ha, a manipulated speculator stock (仕手株) huh
    LMAO, LMAO…
    51AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:12
    Re: #18
    Nikkei reports it → company says "not an official announcement" → officially announced later.
    Seen this exact pattern so many times lol
    57AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:14
    Building factories left and right is fine, but not on debt

    Fund the whole thing through share offerings

    Kioxia at ¥50,000 a share isn't a sane valuation to begin with, so it'd be way better to raise something like ¥25 trillion via public offering and sit on a pile of cash that lets them do anything.

    Heck, they could even use that cash to go make acquisitions
    67AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:16
    Re: #57
    What kind of setup do you post from that fills your text with so many random half-width spaces?
    91AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:21
    They still have the technological edge, so all that's left is ramping up production capacity.
    Playing defense as a NAND-only specialist is just a slow bleed.
    94AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:23
    Re: #91
    Are they going to make DRAM at the new plant?
    97AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:23
    Hahahaha… not one person replying here actually knows anything about semiconductor capex or stock trends (lol)
    Social media really is where all the idiots gather (man, my stomach hurts from laughing)
    102AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:27
    Re: #97
    Haven't got a clue. I just gotta swarm in behind the rich guys like a locust (イナゴ = 5ch slang for retail investors piling onto a hot trade), right?
    98AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:24
    Re: #94
    Not an expert, but I'm sure they're working hard on R&D right now
    140AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:51
    Re: #98
    Sounds like they're about to repeat the same mistake Intel made
    115AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:37
    Nikkei runs a speculative scoop
    → company denies it
    → turns out exactly like the Nikkei article said

    Happens all the time
    126AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:42
    Re: #115
    The Mitsubishi Heavy Industries–Hitachi merger story was just a baseless scoop though
    129AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:44
    Even if they start building the new building now, memory demand might have cooled off by the time it's finished
    132AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:45
    Re: #129
    That's exactly the kind of risk that makes share offerings unpopular in general
    146AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:54
    Until this became big news I always thought it was pronounced "Kikuoshia"
    149AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:56
    Re: #146
    I remembered it with "記憶しや!" ("memorize it!" — a pun on the name Kioxia) (´・ω・`)
    158AnonymousAug 27, 2026 13:16
    Kioxia's memory cards were great —
    no lag saving photos,
    and cheap on top of it. Good purchase.
    159AnonymousAug 27, 2026 13:18
    Re: #158
    Who's even talking about generic consumer memory cards here
    169AnonymousAug 27, 2026 13:54

    Background and Key Points

    Kioxia Holdings is Japan’s dominant flash-memory maker, spun off from Toshiba’s memory division in 2018 (renamed from Toshiba Memory in 2019) and listed on the Tokyo Stock Exchange in December 2024 after years of financial strain tied to Toshiba’s broader corporate troubles. It operates its main fabs in Yokkaichi and Kitakami, both in partnership with Western Digital, and competes with Samsung, SK Hynix, and Micron in the global NAND flash market — a business Chinese firms like YMTC are also pushing into aggressively. Against that backdrop, a Nikkei report of a new Iwate Prefecture plant with over ¥1 trillion in investment, followed by Kioxia’s own carefully worded “Regarding Certain Media Reports” statement, reads as a company neither confirming nor denying a leak — a maneuver Japanese firms use constantly to stay within disclosure rules while markets react anyway.

    The thread didn’t split over whether the report was true — posters treated that as settled, citing a well-worn pattern where Nikkei scoops leak ahead of official announcements and are later confirmed almost every time. The actual disagreement was over how to profit from it: some pushed buying Kioxia stock outright, others recommended peripheral plays like power-equipment or turbine makers, and one poster dismissed the whole exercise by pointing to safer government bonds instead.

    What the thread skips over is the financing debate underneath the jokes about share offerings: Kioxia, still carrying debt from its post-Toshiba restructuring and 2024 IPO, faces a real strategic choice between debt-funded and equity-funded capacity expansion, which is why some posters were floating multi-trillion-yen public offerings — a serious tension for a company that only recently returned to the public markets, not idle numbers.

    *This article was compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “Regarding Certain Media Reports — Kioxia.”

  • Loch Ness Monster Sightings Already Hit 13 in 2026 — 5ch: “It’s a Vital Tourism Resource”

    Tourists at Scotland’s Loch Ness have reported a wave of Nessie sightings, with the tally for 2026 already reaching 13 reports. The thread buzzed with debate over whether the sightings are genuine, accounts of how other cryptids like Bigfoot and Tsuchinoko (a legendary snake-like creature from Japanese folklore) were later exposed as hoaxes, and a rundown of “-ssie”-named lake monsters found around the world.

    Tourists at Scotland’s Loch Ness have reported a series of sightings of the mysterious creature known as Nessie. New accounts include a report of a “head and tail” seen in the water and testimony describing a “mysterious shadow.”

    [Photo] Is activity surging this year? Sightings keep piling up at Loch Ness

    As of July, the 2026 sighting count had already reached 7, but further reports added to the “Official Loch Ness Monster Sightings Register” have pushed this year’s total to 13 so far. The latest entry, logged on July 27, comes from John Wallace and Jamie Wallace, visitors from Renfrewshire, Scotland, who reported a possible encounter with Nessie.

    Source: yorozoonews.jp / Read the original article here

    2AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:24
    Come to think of it, you don't hear about crop circles at all anymore
    20AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:31
    Re: #2
    Pretty sure some people already came forward and admitted it was their own prank
    92AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:04
    Re: #2
    Guess UFO performance specs have improved too
    203AnonymousAug 27, 2026 11:29
    Re: #2
    One showed up on the top of my head recently (joking about a bald spot)
    6AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:25
    Just how long-lived is Nessie supposed to be anyway? She's gotta be over 100 by now
    130AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:34
    Re: #6
    Apparently some kinds of clams live that long too
    16AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:28
    We all know it's staged, but
    it's funny how nobody ever tries to actually settle it with real science
    26AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:34
    Re: #20
    Both the crop circles and that famous Nessie photo —
    the people behind them already confessed
    51AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:42
    Re: #26
    So Tsuchinoko and Bigfoot are both fake too?
    What a letdown
    135AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:39
    Re: #51
    Apparently the Bigfoot footage was staged by someone wearing a costume.
    As for Tsuchinoko, people point out it's suspicious that its appearance keeps changing depending on the era.
    The latest theory is that people were probably just mistaking a cat lying flat on the ground for it.
    210AnonymousAug 27, 2026 11:36
    Re: #51
    Tsuchinoko is probably just a snake mistaken for something else while it's got prey in its belly (making it look bulged)
    Bigfoot, lol, just a prank
    42AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:39
    Isn't she like 100 years old or something by now?
    46AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:40
    Didn't the original discoverer confess on his deathbed that it was all a lie?
    Well, it's become a tourism cash cow at this point, so they can't exactly stop now lol
    44AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:40
    There was also that cattle "mootilation" phenomenon, remember
    55AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:45
    Re: #44
    What's "mootilation"?
    71AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:54
    If one's found in Lake Ashi, does that make it "Asshie"?
    99AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:10
    Re: #71
    The world's "-ssies"
    Asshie (Japan, Lake Ashi)
    Issie (Japan, Lake Ikeda)
    Ojasshie (Japan, Ojaga Pond)
    Kusshie (Japan, Lake Kussharo)
    Chusshie (Japan, Lake Chuzenji)
    Tessie (USA, Lake Tahoe)
    Tosshie (Japan, Lake Toya)
    New Nessie (off the coast of New Zealand)
    Nessie (Scotland, Loch Ness)
    Hasshie (Japan, Hashima City)
    Bessie (USA, Lake Erie)
    Hossie (USA, Lake Hodges) *also known as Hodgee
    Mini-Nessie (England)
    Messie (USA, Lake Murray)
    Mossie (Japan, Lake Motosu)
    73AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:54
    Rough life when even Scotland's tourism board has to keep milking this old legend
    184AnonymousAug 27, 2026 11:12
    Re: #73
    Yeah, when you actually go to Inverness there's a ton of Nessie merch for sale lol
    And the buses to Loch Ness are always packed — it really is a vital tourism resource.
    87AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:03
    That's me

    https://imgur.com/Q2U7YEW.jpeg
    133AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:36
    The original sighting and photo that kicked off the whole Nessie legend were all fabricated — the guy admitted it right before he died
    Yep, case closed
    170AnonymousAug 27, 2026 11:05
    Re: #133
    The one that actually started it was Hugh Gray's photo (1933)
    That's a different thing from the "Surgeon's Photograph" model shot
    134AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:38
    I could grill someone for an hour straight about where a creature that massive even gets the energy to keep itself alive
    139AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:40
    Re: #134
    Well if we're going there, you could just as easily ask how Japan's current finances are supposed to cover that kind of budget — tax cuts and the numbers clearly don't add up either
    I do think the target of "occult" belief has been shifting from cryptids and UFOs to politics lately
    138AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:40
    Hate to burst the bubble, but the plesiosaur that Nessie is supposedly modeled on isn't even a dinosaur's descendant — the true direct descendants of dinosaurs are alive worldwide today, as birds…
    141AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:42
    Re: #138
    And finding out a plesiosaur basically had a sea-turtle-sized body with a long neck stuck on totally killed the fantasy for me
    143AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:42
    Don't forget about Issie either
    150AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:51
    Re: #143
    Never heard of that one
    If we're talking Japan it's gotta be Kusshie from Lake Kussharo
    Or was it Lake Kutcharo? Can't remember
    158AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:56
    180AnonymousAug 27, 2026 11:09
    Back in the day there were even sightings of it walking near people's houses
    With underwater drones these days you could fake as many sightings as you want
    It's pretty much done for as a mystery
    187AnonymousAug 27, 2026 11:15
    Re: #180
    Right, right
    There was even a report of it crossing a road, wasn't there
    Here's the sketch from that one
    Doesn't look anything like a plesiosaur
    193AnonymousAug 27, 2026 11:21
    Sighted on land while driving around Loch Ness
    A sketch of Nessie from that report
    199AnonymousAug 27, 2026 11:25
    Re: #193
    There was real romance to it back in the day
    205AnonymousAug 27, 2026 11:30
    Scoop

    Background and Key Points

    The Official Loch Ness Monster Sightings Register is run by the Loch Ness Centre in Drumnadrochit and has logged reported encounters since 1996, building on a legend that dates to 1933, when newspaper reports of a “monster” first drew crowds to the loch. The most famous image, the 1934 “Surgeon’s Photograph,” was revealed in 1994 to be a toy submarine staged by associates of a man with a grudge against the Daily Mail. Nessie tourism is now worth tens of millions of pounds a year to the Scottish Highlands, which is the “cash cow” posters keep referencing. For Japanese readers, the thread’s comparison points are folkloric: Tsuchinoko is a legendary short, thick snake-like creature reported across rural Japan for centuries, and the various “-ssie” lake monsters (Issie, Kusshie, Mossie, and so on) are homegrown Nessie parodies attached to Japanese lakes, reflecting how thoroughly the Loch Ness template was absorbed into Japanese pop culture.

    The thread didn’t really split over whether Nessie is real — nobody defended that — but over how cynical to be about the sightings being a deliberately sustained tourism ritual versus a genuine, if credulous, folk tradition people still enjoy participating in.

    One correction worth noting: the poster who says “the guy admitted it before he died” is conflating the Surgeon’s Photograph confession with the actual first Nessie sighting, Hugh Gray’s photo from 1933, which was never debunked in the same way. The thread also never mentions that plesiosaurs, Nessie’s supposed template, are marine reptiles unrelated to dinosaurs at all — birds are dinosaurs’ true living descendants, a point one poster raises but the group never fully unpacks.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “[Cryptid] Mysterious Sightings Keep Piling Up at Loch Ness — 2026 Reports Already at 13, What’s Behind the Surge?.”

  • China’s BYD to Take Kei EV Tech Global — 5ch: “Polished in Japan”? LOL

    Reports say BYD will repurpose the proprietary battery-pack technology used in its Japan-only kei EV, the “RACCO,” to develop compact EVs for overseas markets including Europe. On the thread, commenters poked fun at the article’s phrase “polished in Japan,” discussed the backdrop of growing U.S. interest in the kei-car format, and compared driving range with domestic Japanese models.

    China’s electric vehicle giant BYD will repurpose the technology from the kei-car EV it launched in Japan to develop compact EVs, to be sold worldwide including in Europe. By leveraging technology developed for Japan’s unique kei-car standard, the company aims to boost its global competitiveness.

    BYD launched the “RACCO,” a kei EV built from scratch exclusively for the Japanese market, in late July. The company has now decided to develop a compact EV using the proprietary battery pack called “X-PACK,” which debuted with the RACCO…(continues in the paid edition, 1,033 characters remaining)

    Nikkei, August 27, 2026, 5:00 AM

    Source: nikkei.com / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:28
    This is all on the Japanese automakers.

    The kei car segment has now caught the eye of none other than Trump.

    There's even a chance American-made kei-class cars could start coming in.

    This is what happens when Japanese car companies don't put in any effort.
    28AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:42
    Re: #2
    > The kei car segment has now caught the eye of none other than Trump

    It's because inequality in America has gotten so bad they need cheap cars for the people who've fallen out of the middle class.

    Don't go thinking it's because they're impressed by how great Japanese kei cars are.
    165AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:33
    Re: #2
    Kei cars are rolling coffins — they only sell in countries where life is cheap.
    9AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:32
    "Polished in Japan" lol
    They don't even have enough of a track record to have "polished" anything.
    77AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:55
    Re: #9
    Way to talk like it's been selling well in Japan all along.
    16AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:35
    Wasn't it former Nissan people driving this?
    Same losing pattern as with consumer electronics.
    100AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:04
    Re: #16
    I thought Nissan's kei cars were actually built by Mitsubishi.
    178AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:37
    Re: #16
    I heard it was basically already finished by the time he joined.
    23AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:39
    I am absolutely buying one.
    Making my declaration right here.
    37AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:45
    Better to wait until Suzuki's e-Sky comes out.
    193AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:42
    Re: #37
    With that old-fashioned interior and basically no features, it doesn't stand a chance (lol)

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XnIKNvbAZJI&pp=ygUEZXNreQ%3D%3D
    42AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:46
    Cars are turning into electronic devices now.
    They'll meet the same fate [as Japanese electronics did].
    Japan clings to old technology way too much.
    54AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:50
    Re: #42
    Even as cars become electronic devices, the body and chassis still show the gap in traditional engineering.

    At the very least, with Suzuki's kei EV the body and suspension won't get rattly even after 15 years.
    75AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:55
    Suzuki's e-Sky is rated at 310km of range, but rumor has it that in reality it only goes 250km.
    The Nissan Sakura doesn't hit its rated range either.
    Meanwhile the RACCO is rated at 320km, but a motoring journalist's measurements found it actually goes over 320km even with the AC running.
    Fraudulent Japanese makers who fudge their rated figures should learn from BYD, which doesn't deceive consumers.
    86AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:58
    Re: #75
    Not trying to defend them, but that's not just a Japanese-car thing — it's the testing standard itself that's like that.
    97AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:00
    Re: #75
    Why are you posting something so obvious like it's some big flex?
    174AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:35
    The RACCO has a roomy interior and it's cheap — it could probably sell as-is, but making it a bit bigger and safer would help.

    Re: #75
    I hang out on the car board, and honestly the RACCO is pretty well made.
    Its range probably comes down to BYD's experience and know-how as an EV maker.
    138AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:18
    Americans are pretty rational, so if Trump tells poor people to drive kei cars,
    people who actually try one might realize how good they are and sales could explode, right?
    In fact, even old used kei trucks are already selling like crazy over there.
    141AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:21
    Re: #138
    If you get in an accident with a Ford F-150, America's best-selling vehicle,
    you could get seriously hurt — isn't that the kind of safety concern that would keep people from choosing one?
    147AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:24
    Re: #141
    The crash-test facility for these only opened last year, so

    145AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:24

    156AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:30
    Unless Japan stops letting liberal-arts types dominate and sidelining STEM people, it's going to lose to China across every field.
    169AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:34
    Re: #156
    If Japan's STEM people are really that great, why not just ignore the liberal-arts crowd, band together, and go compete with the world on STEM alone?
    Why not do it?
    191AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:41
    Re: #156
    It's STEM-background executives being so incompetent that got us into this situation in the first place.
    175AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:35
    Isn't this the one with the battery in some crazy spot?
    If you drive into a flooded area, that'll be the end of it.
    181AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:38
    Re: #175
    Molded into the floor as one piece, right? If the battery ever needs replacing, it'd probably be cheaper to just buy a whole new car.
    192AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:41
    Re: #175
    "Buy cheap, lose money" — wrong.
    "Buy cheap, lose your life" — correct.
    199AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:44
    Don't underestimate this, but.

    Quite a few old-timers.
    "Ford, the Neon, cheap coupes are landing here!!"

    How it turned out.
    You should know. It.

    Such. A fuss they made.
    "Japan will be crushed by American cars!!!"

    The result was a disaster.
    Ford later. Pulled out. Of Japan.
    203AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:45
    Re: #199
    That was Chrysler, not Ford, though.
    213AnonymousAug 27, 2026 07:49
    Re: #199
    Ford → Hyundai → BYD, and so on..

    Background and Key Points

    Japan’s kei-car category is a distinct legal class, not just industry slang for “small car”: vehicles capped at roughly 3.4m long, 1.48m wide, 2.0m tall, with engines under 660cc, in exchange for lower taxes, cheaper insurance, and easier parking rules in Japan’s dense cities. BYD’s RACCO, launched in late July 2026, is the first kei EV built by a foreign automaker from scratch for this Japan-only standard, using a proprietary battery pack called X-PACK. The news here is that BYD wants to strip that kei-specific engineering out of its original box and rebuild it as a conventional compact EV for Europe and other markets — the “polishing” the headline refers to is really regulatory-driven miniaturization know-how, not general EV prowess.

    The thread didn’t converge on whether this is good or bad for Japan; it split on trust. Some posters treated BYD’s stated 320km range as more honest than Suzuki’s or Nissan’s official figures, which posters claim underperform in practice — others pushed back that the gap reflects the shared JC08/WLTC testing methodology, not fraud unique to Japanese brands.

    What’s likely to be missed: the poster who invoked Ford’s 1980s failure in Japan actually misattributed it — that episode centered on Chrysler’s Neon, not Ford, a correction made mid-thread. Also unmentioned is that used, non-crash-tested Japanese kei trucks are already being imported and sold in the U.S. through a legal loophole for off-road/agricultural use, which is the real-world precedent for “kei cars in America” — a separate phenomenon from BYD’s planned export strategy.

    *This article is compiled as excerpts and a summary from the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “[BYD] Kei EV “RACCO” Tech Goes Global — Space-Saving Performance “Polished in Japan”.”

  • Speed Limit on Residential Roads Drops to 30 km/h Starting September 1 — 5ch: “Honestly, 30 km/h Is Pretty Slow”

    Starting September 1, 2026, the legal speed limit on residential roads without a center line and narrower than 5.5 meters will drop from 60 km/h to 30 km/h. On 5ch, users debated everything from where exactly to draw the line on which roads qualify, to how effectively the new limit can actually be enforced, to worries that it could fuel more aggressive tailgating.

    TV Asahi (ANN) — Published 8/26 (Wed) 20:27

    Starting the 1st of next month, things are changing. The legal speed limit on residential roads will be lowered from 60 km/h to 30 km/h. This change could even mean an instant license suspension for violators. We looked into why the speed limit is being cut in half.

    Speed limit lowered — instant license suspension possible

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    13AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:07
    Even prefectural and national roads through mountain passes often don't have a center line.
    Are those going to be 30 km/h too?
    33AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:11
    Re: #13
    Seems like it. Better watch out on riverbank roads too.
    37AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:11
    Re: #13
    Nah, those aren't residential roads, so they won't count.
    139AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:28
    Re: #13
    Come to think of it, that busy levee road would be affected too.
    Traffic's going to be a nightmare.
    35AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:11
    How are you even supposed to report violations?
    I doubt those tax-money-wasting cops (slang for police seen as lazy freeloaders) are going to enforce this properly anyway.
    41AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:12
    Re: #35
    Maybe they'll install sensors or something?
    231AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:40
    Re: #35
    If you feel it's dangerous, just call 110 (Japan's emergency police line)
    If you want them to nab a specific driver, you'll need video footage though
    For a road you walk often, if you tell them the time of day, they'll actually come out and enforce it
    46AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:13
    30 km/h is actually pretty slow
    The moment you speed up to catch a light while it's still green,
    you're doing 60 on a residential road before you know it
    51AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:14
    Even main roads in Tokyo aren't usually 60 km/h, right?
    It's more like 40 in the city center and 50 as you head out to the suburbs
    75AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:18
    This is obviously meant for urban residential neighborhoods
    Seriously, don't go slapping this on rural rice-paddy roads
    112AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:23
    Re: #75
    They really need to nail down the definition of a 'residential road' properly — not just narrowness, but whether it's actually in a residential area, whether intersections have good visibility, and so on
    192AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:35
    Re: #75
    Nah, the regulation's already set in stone lol
    There's a real chance cops will be staking out rural rice-paddy roads too
    82AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:19
    So if there's no center line but the road is wide, this wouldn't apply, right?
    91AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:21
    Re: #82
    Right, it's only roads without a center line that become 30 km/h
    97AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:21
    Re: #82
    I don't think roads like that exist much in urban areas — probably more common out in the regional areas?
    108AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:23
    Feels like this is going to increase aggressive tailgating

    Those guys can't stand it when the car in front is doing 30
    123AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:25
    Re: #108
    They tailgate you even at 60, swerving left and right to get around you, but you just end up meeting again at the next light anyway.
    146AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:29
    Re: #108
    Some idiot tailgated me on a shortcut during my commute, so I chased him
    all the way to his company and started yelling at him inside the building — someone called the cops on me
    111AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:23
    Re: #91
    Looked it up — seems like it's roads with no center line AND narrower than 5.5m that become 30 km/h
    A rural farm road with no center line but wider than 5.5m stays at 60 km/h
    134AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:27
    Re: #111
    In my area, every farm road that's 5.5m or wider already has a center line painted on it
    157AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:30
    Re: #111
    Wait, isn't that wrong?
    A road with no center line should be 30 km/h even if it's 5.5m or wider
    113AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:23
    Driving slowly along a mountain road or a road flanked by rice paddies
    is the best
    This law was basically made for the countryside
    124AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:26
    Re: #113
    Even on residential roads, early morning drives feel great
    Now people finally won't mistake me for someone casing houses lol
    136AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:27
    Re: #113
    Driving at your own pace is fine, but if you've got a 'daimyo procession' (a long line of cars stuck behind a slow driver) forming behind you, pull onto the shoulder now and then and let them pass
    Unless you're the type of jerk who thinks leading a procession makes you look cool, in which case, whatever
    143AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:28
    And on top of that, barely anyone's been told about this
    The cops just want to rake in a huge catch with their speed traps (lit. 'rat traps')
    165AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:31
    Re: #143
    This has been all over TV and the internet for more than half a year now
    You're just out of the loop
    203AnonymousAug 27, 2026 06:36
    Re: #143
    Didn't even check this month's neighborhood circular, huh, out of the loop as usual?
    It was right there in the local police box newsletter

    Background and Key Points

    Japan’s default speed limits work differently from many countries: where no numbered speed sign is posted, a blanket “legal speed” (法定速度) applies automatically, and until now that default was a flat 60 km/h on ordinary roads. The revision taking effect September 1, 2026 carves out a new default of 30 km/h specifically for roads with no center line and a width under 5.5 meters — the vast majority of ordinary residential streets, which in Japan are frequently unmarked and barely wide enough for one car. Because Japan’s points-based license system escalates penalties sharply with the margin of overage, doing 60 on a road that’s now legally capped at 30 can trigger a large deduction and immediate suspension rather than a simple fine, which is the “instant suspension” hook in the reporting.

    The thread’s real disagreement wasn’t about the policy itself but about scope: the rule is defined purely by physical characteristics — no centerline, under 5.5m — not by zoning or signage calling a road “residential.” Posters kept surfacing edge cases (mountain passes, levee roads, farm roads through rice paddies) that technically meet those criteria despite having nothing to do with housing, while others insisted, incorrectly, that the law only targets urban neighborhoods.

    What the thread never quite nails down is enforcement logistics: nothing suggests new signage is being installed on every affected road, so drivers are expected to infer the new 30 km/h default from a road’s physical shape alone — a genuinely easy rule to violate without realizing it, sensor cameras or not.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “Instant License Suspension Possible… Residential Roads Drop from 60 km/h to 30 km/h Starting September 1.”

  • MEXT Picks ‘GTO,’ Justice Ministry Picks ‘Ravu Jōtō’ — Government Ministries’ String of Entertainment Tie-Ups Draws Skepticism

    The news that Japan’s Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology (MEXT) has partnered with the school drama ‘GTO,’ while the Ministry of Justice and the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare have similarly tied up with popular titles, became a hot topic on 5channel’s Newsplus board. Given that GTO’s protagonist, Eikichi Onizuka, was originally written as a “wildly unconventional problem teacher,” commenters questioned whether he was really the right fit for promoting the appeal of the teaching profession — and the discussion soon spiraled into broader laments about the declining caliber of bureaucrats and lawmakers.

    Since the start of this year, collaborations (tie-ups) between central government ministries and entertainment titles have become increasingly common. But things haven’t exactly gone smoothly — in August especially, a string of these collaborations were cancelled. Online, voices of discomfort and criticism toward these tie-up campaigns have been growing.

    [Actual report] “It unsettled me” — Chiaki Hara raises concerns over tie-up between a Haruna Kawaguchi film and the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare

    In June, MEXT announced a tie-up with the Kansai TV/Fuji TV school drama ‘GTO,’ aimed at broadly promoting the appeal of the teaching profession. At a press conference, Minister Yohei Matsumoto cheered on working teachers, saying, “I believe every single teacher out there working hard on the front lines right now is a ‘Great Teacher.’” Online reaction was mixed, however, with many voicing discomfort at equating the wild, unconventional character of protagonist Eikichi Onizuka with the ideal that real teachers should aspire to.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    27AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:18
    GTO's fine though
    58AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:26
    Ministry of Defense: 'Girls und Panzer'
    97AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:52
    Re: #58
    That one's understandable, honestly — it lines up with both sides' goals pretty well
    68AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:34
    Communist Party: 'X: Heading off to stop the Mom War'
    74AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:38
    This pick is way too bad, no matter how you slice it
    If they'd just stuck to collabing with Hatsune Miku, for example, nobody would be mad
    78AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:41
    Re: #74
    Collabing with edgy, provocative titles is always a risk
    75AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:39
    Come to think of it, they jumped on the Ghost in the Shell bandwagon too — but Public Security Section 9 is also about an anime unit that busts corrupt politicians and bureaucrats who break the law. You've got to admire the sheer nerve of a party that's caused scandal after scandal through corruption and lawbreaking casually slapping its name on Ghost in the Shell.
    76AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:40
    Re: #75
    The Health Ministry's drug-approval episode in Stand Alone Complex (GitS:SAC) is basically a straight-up parody of the HIV-tainted blood scandal, lol
    91AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:48
    This is what happens when you aim for the lowest common denominator
    101AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:54
    Re: #91
    I'd really rather MEXT NOT dumb down its outreach on the appeal of teaching to target idiots
    94AnonymousAug 27, 2026 01:50
    The collabs themselves are fine, it's just… why pick THAT one?
    106AnonymousAug 27, 2026 02:02
    Re: #94
    What's wrong with picking it though?
    108AnonymousAug 27, 2026 02:05
    Aren't lawmakers and bureaucrats supposed to be smart?
    Weird.
    113AnonymousAug 27, 2026 02:11
    Re: #108
    They just don't have a heart, that's why lol
    110AnonymousAug 27, 2026 02:05
    Re: #106
    And yet it blew up in their faces after they picked it?
    148AnonymousAug 27, 2026 03:29
    Re: #110
    Just means there were a lot of idiots, that's all
    117AnonymousAug 27, 2026 02:13
    Seriously, hasn't the caliber of Japan's senior bureaucrats gone downhill?
    Apparently Todai grads all go off to consulting firms or foreign companies these days, so whoever's left over ends up in the civil service
    132AnonymousAug 27, 2026 02:28
    Re: #117
    The quality's been dropping ever since the crackdown on amakudari (bureaucrats' post-retirement job placements)
    134AnonymousAug 27, 2026 02:30
    Re: #117
    Consulting jobs are going to shrink as AI spreads, though
    161AnonymousAug 27, 2026 04:00
    Re: #117
    The current MEXT administrative vice-minister is an Aoyama Gakuin grad.
    And two vice-ministers back, remember the whole thing about a Ritsumeikan grad becoming vice-minister?
    125AnonymousAug 27, 2026 02:18
    If this is what central government ministries are like, local government officials must be even worse
    Is Japan actually going to be okay…
    129AnonymousAug 27, 2026 02:24
    It seems like the drama toned it way down, but wasn't the original manga about an over-the-top delinquent teacher — the kind of teacher you'd absolutely hate to actually have?
    Somewhere along the way, the country filled up with teachers who say "I wanted to become a teacher after watching the GTO drama,"
    and now even MEXT is putting its stamp of approval on it.
    What is going on here?

    Is Japanese education already finished?
    178AnonymousAug 27, 2026 05:13
    Re: #129
    MEXT itself has no clue how education should adapt to the times, lol
    141AnonymousAug 27, 2026 02:38
    Lazy, easy collabs have really increased, huh
    Feels like they don't need to partner with the private sector THAT much
    147AnonymousAug 27, 2026 03:20
    Re: #141
    Well, it'll turn up in a search, right? Not many people check the Health Ministry's site every day anyway
    179AnonymousAug 27, 2026 05:14
    Cut the wasteful spending and you could lower taxes
    183AnonymousAug 27, 2026 05:16
    Re: #179
    That's a fantasy — the people doing it don't even have a concept of 'wasteful spending' in the first place
    181AnonymousAug 27, 2026 05:15
    So is it fine that the Agency for Cultural Affairs used a subsidy program for the Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo stage play?
    189AnonymousAug 27, 2026 05:22
    Re: #181
    Bobobo's fine since nobody criticizes it — if anything, if you seriously criticized Bobobo, YOU'D be the one treated like you'd lost it
    198AnonymousAug 27, 2026 05:38
    Ministries have been tying up with entertainment and sports for ages
    It's probably just idiots making noise about it, right?
    202AnonymousAug 27, 2026 05:39
    Re: #198
    Unlike the Showa or Heisei eras, we're now in a time where the people defending politicians are the ones treated like idiots
    210AnonymousAug 27, 2026 05:47
    If they're spending money and begging for this, whoever's in charge should be fired
    If they're making the TV network foot the bill, that's fine
    214AnonymousAug 27, 2026 05:52
    Re: #210
    Demand they hold a press conference to explain

    Background and Key Points

    MEXT (the education ministry) is trying to make teaching look attractive again because Japan is in the middle of a real teacher-shortage crisis: public schools nationwide start the school year with vacant homeroom slots, and the profession is associated with “black” workplace hours—unpaid overtime, no overtime pay under a decades-old law that caps teachers’ extra pay at a flat 4% stipend. Partnering with ‘GTO’ (Great Teacher Onizuka), the manga/drama about an ex-biker-gang delinquent who becomes a teacher, is the ministry’s attempt to make the job look cool to potential recruits. The Justice Ministry and Health Ministry ran similar drama tie-ups the same season, part of a broader recent wave of ministries cross-promoting with entertainment content.

    The thread doesn’t split on whether ministries should do these tie-ups at all—posters treat that as long-standing, unremarkable practice (see the Self-Defense Force’s ‘Girls und Panzer’ tie-up, cited approvingly as a sensible fit). The disagreement is over title selection: whether picking politically loaded or tonally mismatched works (Onizuka’s original delinquency, or the Communist Party using ‘Ghost in the Shell,’ a franchise about an elite unit busting corrupt officials) reflects poor judgment versus simply being oversensitive online outrage.

    What the thread never addresses is cost: these are typically promotional cross-tie-ins arranged with production committees at little or no expense to the ministry, not necessarily the “wasted taxpayer money” the thread title alleges—readers unfamiliar with how Japanese ad tie-ups work may assume real budget was spent securing the license.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Newsplus) thread「[Waste of Taxpayer Money] MEXT’s ‘GTO,’ Justice Ministry’s ‘Ravu Jōtō,’ Health Ministry’s ‘Mama Seka’ — String of Entertainment Collabs… “Are You Mocking Us?” Sparks Controversy」.

  • Why Do Kansai People Always Give You Candy? Ex-Flight Attendant’s ‘Kansai Survival Tips’ Strike a Chord

    A former flight attendant’s post about “things to watch out for when living in Kansai” was picked up by a news site, and on 5ch it sparked a wave of stories about the region’s haggling culture, the ubiquitous “ame-chan” candy, and its distinctive habit of tacking “-chan” onto everything. While some said “fewer young people haggle over prices these days,” others chimed in with tidbits like “there’s a fancy restaurant that only serves candy,” fueling a lively discussion about Kansai’s quirky customs.

    Why Do Kansai People Give You Candy? Kansai-Born Ex-Flight Attendant’s “4 Things to Watch Out for in Kansai” Strikes a Chord

    Akko_san_dayo, a former flight attendant now working as a secretary, has been gaining attention lately for a variety of posts on TikTok and Instagram (akko_excrew_channel) sharing airplane trivia and other interesting tidbits.

    This time, we’re introducing the “things to watch out for in Kansai” that Akko_san_dayo posted.

    Source: limo.media / Original article here

    2AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:48
    They really do haggle, huh
    Everywhere, all the time
    20AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:59
    Re: #2
    Lately with fixed-price systems and stuff, they won't cut you a deal anymore
    24AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:00
    Re: #2
    That's outdated now
    Young people don't haggle at all
    78AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:13
    Re: #2
    Trying to haggle at a convenience store — even in Kansai, that's an Osaka-only move
    4AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:49
    More than that, it's weirder how they slap '-chan' on everything
    174AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:20
    Re: #4
    They add '-san' a lot too
    Like 'oage-san' (fried tofu) or 'okai-san' (rice porridge)
    176AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:22
    Re: #4
    W-wait, 'Makudo-chan'?? (McDonald's, with '-chan' tacked on)
    13AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:55
    Sure, asking where someone lives is one thing, but asking their rent? That's not normal — you're just prying into their income
    149AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:59
    Re: #13
    It's just a conversational icebreaker
    If you actually live there you already know the going rate anyway — it's more like a filler phrase to keep things moving and open up the topic
    You don't have to answer honestly, just throw out a rough figure
    Then you say 'some places are pricier, some cheaper' to keep the chat going
    Kansai people speak their minds, after all
    19AnonymousAug 26, 2026 16:59
    It's not just candy —
    Osaka people even put '-chan' on poop…
    80AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:14
    Re: #19
    Young women get 'nee-chan'
    Young men get 'nii-chan'
    Older women get 'oba-chan' (auntie)
    Older men get 'occhan' (uncle)
    34AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:02
    It's just like the millet dumplings in the Momotaro folktale — it's basically marking you as 'you're my underling starting today'
    100AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:29
    Re: #34
    I've never gotten millet dumplings in Okayama, Aichi, or Kagawa
    But I have gotten candy in Osaka
    36AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:02
    I've never actually gotten candy from a Kansai person. And I really hate the term 'ame-chan.' At least it hasn't taken over Tokyo yet
    44AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:03
    Re: #36
    It'd be terrifying if Osaka aunties started popping up everywhere over here
    46AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:04
    It's just Osaka people speaking for all of Kansai on their own

    Don't lump Kyoto and Kobe in with that
    47AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:04
    If you just say 'ame' (candy) in Kansai without the '-chan,' do people snap 'Add the -chan, you dummy!'?
    56AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:06
    Re: #47
    It's Osaka people who go around spreading this 'ame-chan' thing and the crude Kansai image all on their own

    I'll say it again
    It's Osaka people who spread the 'Kansai = Osaka' image all on their own
    51AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:05
    People are just exaggerating it for laughs
    Kansai people are all different, you know
    66AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:08
    They keep recycling this same bit, but isn't it way too stale by now?
    177AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:23
    Re: #66
    But

    Barging in without any tact
    Repeating the same phrases
    Always talking about money

    — none of that has changed, then or now
    Honestly, I'm sick of it
    84AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:20
    Remembering that not all Kansai people are like that
    is what it takes to be a decent, ordinary Japanese person
    91AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:25
    Re: #84
    Yeah
    When a Kansai person says 'in Kansai,' it's often really just about one small part of the region
    104AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:35
    Like in Tobita (Osaka's red-light district), a Fujiya Pop Candy is the signal that your time's up, right?
    157AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:04
    Re: #104

    It's the marker the touting auntie uses to signal it
    114AnonymousAug 26, 2026 17:38
    Apparently there's a fancy restaurant in Osaka that serves nothing but candy
    160AnonymousAug 26, 2026 18:05
    Re: #114
    Well, it's technically a special-service restaurant, so if a customer asks for it, they'll bring it out

    Background and Key Points

    Kansai’s haggling and candy-giving culture is real but geographically narrower than the thread suggests: most of these customs — the “ame-chan” habit, aggressive price haggling, and the “-chan”/”-san” suffixing (oage-san for fried tofu, okai-san for rice porridge) — trace specifically to Osaka’s merchant-city history, not to Kansai as a whole. Osaka was Japan’s commercial capital during the Edo period, and its identity as a city of traders (akindo) is still the source of these stereotypes, distinct from Kyoto’s court culture or Kobe’s port-city cosmopolitanism. Handing someone a piece of candy while chatting or doing business is a small goodwill gesture rooted in that merchant friendliness, not a formal custom.

    The thread’s actual fault line isn’t whether these traits exist, but who they belong to. Several posters (46, 56) object that Osaka behavior is being mislabeled as “Kansai” behavior wholesale, lumping in Kyoto and Kobe unfairly, while others (24, 20) argue the stereotypes are simply outdated, since fixed pricing has killed haggling among younger generations. That’s a real generational and regional split, not just online exaggeration.

    What outsiders likely miss: post 104’s mention of candy as a signal in Tobita Shinchi refers to Osaka’s famous licensed red-light district, where a Fujiya Pop Candy handed to a customer by the storefront “auntie” traditionally marks that the visit’s time is up — a very different, transactional use of candy from the friendly ame-chan habit discussed elsewhere in the thread. Readers unfamiliar with Osaka geography could easily conflate the two customs as one quaint regional quirk, when they come from completely different contexts.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “Why Do Kansai People Give You Candy? Kansai-Born Ex-Flight Attendant’s ‘4 Things to Watch Out for in Kansai’ Strikes a Chord”.