Loxonin patches and other “OTC-similar” drugs to lose insurance coverage from next March — 5ch: “Can’t work without it”

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The story

Starting next March, “OTC-similar drugs” — medications like Loxonin pain-relief patches whose active ingredients closely match over-the-counter products — will be dropped from Japan’s public health insurance coverage, meaning patients will have to pay close to retail price out of pocket. A man who has worked construction sites for 30 years while being treated for rheumatoid arthritis says he simply can’t work without his painkillers. A group of patients and doctors submitted a petition with 110,000 signatures to the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare calling for the policy to be reconsidered. On 5ch, voices criticizing the reality that patches are so over-prescribed that households end up with unused bundles piling up clashed with calls for consideration toward those who can’t do without their medication due to their symptoms, and the debate spread further into discussions of copayment rates and the state of elderly healthcare.

“There’s no such thing as a patient who doesn’t need consideration. It’s only because of this medicine that I can work.” — so says Yoshihisa Watanabe of the Tokyo Doken General Labor Union, who developed rheumatoid arthritis at age 34 and has continued working construction while undergoing treatment for 30 years.

Steroid medication used to control his pain caused osteoporosis as a side effect, and he has kept working as a tile setter, managing the resulting back pain with Loxonin patches and similar drugs.

These patches and painkillers — “OTC-similar drugs” prescribed at medical institutions but containing ingredients very similar to over-the-counter products — will partly move outside insurance coverage, effectively becoming more expensive starting next March. On September 17, Watanabe and a group of patients and doctors held a rally in Tokyo and submitted a petition with 110,000 signatures to the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare calling for the policy to be scrapped.

Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

What people said

8AnonymousSep 19, 2026 05:55
They hand these out way too much to begin with
Go to an osteopathic clinic and they give you a whole bundle of them
Nobody needs that many
156AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:36
Re: #8
Some people do need them though
I think it'd be better to just take osteopathic clinics out of insurance coverage entirely
17AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:00
Does putting on a Loxonin patch ever actually cure a headache?
26AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:03
Re: #17
If it's a tension headache it might work for some people
198AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:42
Re: #17
With shingles they told me it's nerve-related pain so Lyrica-type drugs don't work at all
Whatever they gave me at the pain clinic seemed to help though
22AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:01
Why are OTC drugs so expensive anyway
The price isn't just what you'd get by simply adding back the 70% insurance used to cover
177AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:38
Re: #22
Well of course it's expensive, the store's profit margin is baked in on top
27AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:03
It's been too cheap until now
Stop relying on drugs
46AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:10
Re: #27
Wonder what'll be called "too cheap" next
29AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:05
Don't forget the consultation fee on top of the drug cost
36AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:07
Re: #29
For something like a cold it'll end up costing about the same as just buying OTC medicine

Whoever's pocketing the amount above the full (100%/"10-wari") price, I wonder where that goes
48AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:10
Re: #1
Honestly, hospitals hand out huge stacks of patches even to people who don't even like using them
I barely use mine
The elderly folks in my family actually like using patches, and we've already got a mountain of stock at home
Basically they're just over-prescribing, and now the government's decided to raise prices to fix the finances because of that over-prescribing
They should've just restricted how much gets prescribed in the first place
57AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:12
Re: #48
In the end they just go unused and become burnable trash
58AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:12
I think single men over 30 should pay 90% out of pocket even for insurance-covered drugs
83AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:19
Re: #58
So it's about personal responsibility, right?
If so, then health insurance should be unnecessary for them too, and we'd need a tax deduction bracket for singles as well
66AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:15
At the hospital with 30% copay it's 38 yen
So at 100% copay it'd be 126 yen

Meanwhile at the drugstore it's 1800 yen

What is going on here
98AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:24
Re: #66
Well, that much is unavoidable I guess
224AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:47
Re: #66
When you use public health insurance
the official drug price is kept low
99AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:24
I mean, even going to the hospital costs a consultation fee, so once you add the prescription on top, doesn't it end up costing about the same?
106AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:25
Re: #99
That's because money's being put in from elsewhere (insurance subsidy), that's exactly why the price is that low
277AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:56
Re: #99
Even including the consultation fee, it's like a 10x difference
OTC drugs are just too expensive
105AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:25
Raise elderly patients' medical copay to 30% too, and if they can't afford it, they can die with dignity
That's how it should be
116AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:27
Re: #105
Elderly people go to the hospital constantly anyway, 50% copay would be fine
130AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:31
Re: #105
Re: #116
Whether it's 50% or 100%, in the end they'll end up on welfare (seikatsu hogo) and it'll be paid 100% from insurance premiums and taxes anyway
Since hospitals can't refuse to treat someone
204AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:43
Watching videos about the real state of healthcare in America makes me think Japan's actually pretty blessed
Stuff like MRI appointments a year out, or only being able to see someone in six months even with heart disease
Apparently there are places that'll see you if you pay even more, though
212AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:45
Re: #204
And that public safety situation (in the US) is the result, so if you're fine accepting that too, sure, go for it
244AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:51
Re: #204
The UK, with its free healthcare, is wild too
No budget, and the waiting list for patients needing hospitalization has topped 6 million
Waiting over a year even with cancer has become normal
Germany, which also has free healthcare, is starting to turn into the same situation as the UK
223AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:47
If you're on welfare (seikatsu hogo), it's free no matter if the price goes up 50x or 500x, right?
You could resell it and make even more money than now
They should collect medical costs from welfare recipients ("namapo") too
233AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:48
Re: #223
You're a genius
I'm quitting my job
235AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:49
Re: #223
Just abolish the welfare system and it's solved
241AnonymousSep 19, 2026 06:50
Re: #223
Apparently people sell stuff like sleeping pills on the street too, so those guys are the real winners

Background and key points of this debate

“OTC-similar drugs” refers to medications prescribed at medical institutions whose active ingredients are nearly identical to over-the-counter products like cold medicine or pain patches. As part of its efforts to curb healthcare costs, the government is moving to gradually remove such drugs from insurance coverage, and this round of Loxonin patches falls under that policy. The Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare argues that most users have only mild symptoms, while patient groups point out that a certain number of people with chronic conditions like rheumatoid arthritis need patches and painkillers on a daily basis — and this gap in perception over “the reality of the patients who’ll be excluded” is the starting point of the debate. Within the thread, discussion of whether the policy change itself is right or wrong gets mixed together with a separate issue — that hospitals are “over-prescribing,” leaving patches to pile up unused at home — and it’s worth keeping in mind while reading that whether to raise the burden and whether prescribing practices need fixing are, properly speaking, two separate questions.

*This article was compiled by excerpting and summarizing the 5ch (News Express+) thread “Hospital Loxonin patch at 38 yen becomes 1,800 yen at “retail price”… Elderly man: “Can’t work without it” — the state’s “consideration” excludes 99% of patients too.”

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