Category: News

  • The Real Secret to ‘Cleanliness’? It’s Just Being Hot — 5ch: “If You’re Handsome, Anything Goes”

    Sparked by a post on X (formerly Twitter) claiming that “what women really mean by ‘cleanliness’ is whether a man is a ‘weak man’ (jakusha danshi, i.e. a low-status, unattractive man) or not,” the debate over “cleanliness” spread to 5ch’s Livegalileo (general live-commentary) board as well. Posters lined up opinions like “if he’s handsome, nobody cares if he’s broke or sweaty” and “in the end it’s looks and money, not cleanliness,” with the discussion expanding to bring up actor Masahiro Higashide as an example and theories about which hairstyles are popular with women — though partway through, things derailed into personal bickering between posters.

    What women really mean by “cleanliness” comes down to one thing: whether or not you’re a “weak man.” To women, weakness is a kind of “impurity,” so no matter how well-groomed a guy who can’t shake that “weak” aura makes himself, he just ends up as a “clean weak man” — and since women instinctively recoil from weakness, he still reads as dirty to them in the end. A high-status man’s unwashed d*ck is cleaner to them than a low-status man’s freshly washed hands.

    Source: x.com / Original post here

    31AnonymousAug 24, 2026 21:56
    Back when I was a tall, good-looking guy, women would compliment me on my clothes even though I was just wearing Uniqlo.

    Meanwhile I've seen guys in expensive clothes get totally ignored, more than once.
    33AnonymousAug 24, 2026 21:58
    If you're good-looking (height + face + build add up past a certain line), anything goes.

    I was broke and still had women all over me
    I was sweaty and still got liked
    Even with pretty indoorsy hobbies
    52AnonymousAug 24, 2026 22:07
    Back in the day I was honestly pretty much a Subaru-from-Re:Zero type character
    A bit of an annoying guy

    But since I was a tall, good-looking guy, everyone just let it slide
    103AnonymousAug 24, 2026 22:35
    Cleanliness
    Good looks
    Money

    In the end, isn't it just this?
    108AnonymousAug 24, 2026 22:38
    Re: #103
    For dating, the handsome guys win
    For marriage-hunting, it's the rich guys (though apparently they get cuckolded a lot)
    109AnonymousAug 24, 2026 22:38
    Re: #103
    Being serious for a second, you don't even need to be handsome
    If you actually understood women, this would be obvious
    112AnonymousAug 24, 2026 22:40
    Wear clothes that aren't wrinkled, that fit properly, and don't have weird patterns,
    and as long as you're not bald, that's the bare minimum for "cleanliness," right?
    114AnonymousAug 24, 2026 22:42
    Re: #112
    You don't get it — an ugly guy who's well-groomed is still just an ugly guy
    118AnonymousAug 24, 2026 22:43
    Re: #112
    Even bald and short, doesn't someone like Masayoshi Son (SoftBank's billionaire founder) still look clean?
    124AnonymousAug 24, 2026 22:46
    Guys like Masahiro Higashide are basically unemployed, but even other men can tell he's the type women go for
    Men need to get their wild side back
    Stop sucking up to women
    130AnonymousAug 24, 2026 22:48
    Re: #124
    Wasn't he living in the mountains with a harem or something
    139AnonymousAug 24, 2026 22:52
    Re: #138
    Here we go again with the gap between what men think is handsome and what women think is handsome
    Guys with a "mushroom cut" who look unpopular at first glance are actually the most popular
    142AnonymousAug 24, 2026 22:55
    Re: #139
    Unless the hairstyle is really bizarre, hairstyle doesn't actually matter
    Whether it's a buzz cut or a mushroom cut, guys who are popular are popular regardless

    Background and Key Points

    Being handsome, unfaithfully unwashed, everyone’s Uniqlo tale — let me address the piece.

    The “cleanliness” (清潔感, seiketsukan) discourse is a long-running fixture of Japanese dating discourse: it’s the near-universal answer women give in surveys and interviews to “what matters in a man’s appearance,” and it nominally describes hygiene-adjacent basics — trimmed hair, ironed clothes, no body odor. What’s changed is that men online have increasingly argued the term is a euphemism, a socially acceptable way to reject men without naming looks, height, or income directly. The X post that kicked off this thread crystallizes that suspicion into a slogan: “cleanliness” is really just code for not being a “weak man” (jakusha danshi), a term itself borrowed from incel-adjacent online vocabulary to mean low-status or unattractive.

    Where the 5ch thread actually splits is not on whether looks matter — nearly everyone agrees they do — but on whether “cleanliness” is a meaningfully separate axis from looks and money at all, or simply dissolves into them entirely. Posts like #112 try to defend a literal, checklist version of cleanliness (fitted clothes, no baldness), while #114 flatly denies that grooming can rescue an unattractive man. A secondary, more revealing split is between #108’s dating/marriage distinction (looks win short-term, money wins for marriage) and #109’s claim that neither matters if you “understand women” — a vaguer, less falsifiable position nobody in the thread presses further.

    What the thread never engages with is the actual social function of “cleanliness” talk: it’s also aimed at other women, signaling a woman herself has standards, not just a private preference communicated to men. Readers unfamiliar with Japanese gender-relations discourse may also miss that “weak man” and this whole framing echo terminology from Japan’s own manosphere-style forums, not neutral dating advice.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Livegalileo) thread 「[Sad News] Here’s What Women Really Mean by “Cleanliness” LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL」.

  • I sleep in my car, and I just realized manga cafes are a better deal than RV parks

    A traveler who sleeps in their car posted that using Kaikatsu Club — a manga café with free drinks — for 12 hours at just 1,650 yen (soft-serve ice cream and manga included) works out cheaper than an RV park, which runs around 2,500 yen, sparking discussion on 5channel’s Newssoku VIP board.

    The thread saw practical debate over things like whether showers are available, the pros and cons of the pay-later system, and worries about bed bugs — though partway through, it also devolved into arguments over accusations of “single-post sockpuppeting” (posting under multiple names to fake support).

    1AnonymousAug 24, 2026 19:18
    Using an all-you-can-drink café and sleeping in the car
    Only 1,650 yen for a full 12 hours
    Comes with manga to read, drinks, and soft-serve ice cream
    2AnonymousAug 24, 2026 19:19
    Btw even the cheapest RV parks run about 2,500 yen
    For a solo trip that's barely different from a hotel
    19AnonymousAug 24, 2026 19:27
    How's that any different from a 24-hour family restaurant?
    22AnonymousAug 24, 2026 19:27
    Re: #19
    Name me a family restaurant with a shower lol
    25AnonymousAug 24, 2026 19:28
    Re: #19
    The point is you're paying for a 12-hour night rate, so it's fine to leave your car parked there
    43AnonymousAug 24, 2026 19:41








    I go to Kaikatsu Club's karaoke booths a lot
    50AnonymousAug 24, 2026 19:43
    Kaikatsu Club is pay-later to begin with, so you can't really come and go freely
    54AnonymousAug 24, 2026 19:45
    Re: #50
    lol
    147AnonymousAug 24, 2026 20:59
    Re: #54
    Are you living in 2020 or something?
    64AnonymousAug 24, 2026 19:50
    Travel's really about what you choose to prioritize
    Experiences, lodging, food — there's a lot of angles
    66AnonymousAug 24, 2026 19:51
    Re: #64
    Exactly this
    I've got plenty of time but don't want to spend money, so sleeping in the car is the optimal solution for me
    Cheaper is always better
    68AnonymousAug 24, 2026 19:53
    Re: #64
    Sounds like OP (Re: #1) ditched all that and went all-in on cheapness
    Feels like the kind of thing you'll be reminiscing about from your student days, nice
    91AnonymousAug 24, 2026 20:15
    A cheap public bathhouse (super sento) plus a roadside station or highway rest area is the cheapest option around
    92AnonymousAug 24, 2026 20:15
    Re: #91
    I do that a lot
    Also, in this case the comparison is specifically against 'RV parks'
    93AnonymousAug 24, 2026 20:16
    Re: #91
    Nice try, hater — Kaikatsu Club is the best 😆
    104AnonymousAug 24, 2026 20:27
    lol
    Guess OP (Re: #1) was right after all
    105AnonymousAug 24, 2026 20:27
    Lmaoo
    Tough break for OP too lol
    120AnonymousAug 24, 2026 20:45
    If you cheap out on sleep you won't recover from fatigue, and that ends up affecting your driving
    Even a cheap hotel like APA, α-1, or AZ is fine — you're way better off planning ahead properly
    123AnonymousAug 24, 2026 20:46
    Re: #120
    Weirdly enough, I sleep better in cramped spaces
    I actually sleep more soundly on trips than in my own room
    Might partly be because I'm worn out from driving though
    126AnonymousAug 24, 2026 20:49
    Aren't you scared of bed bugs at Kaikatsu Club?
    129AnonymousAug 24, 2026 20:50
    Re: #126
    It's cheap, so who cares
    148AnonymousAug 24, 2026 21:00
    Re: #126
    Probably depends on the location
    Also, this thread isn't even about sleeping inside Kaikatsu Club, so honestly I can't say anything about the bed bug situation
    128AnonymousAug 24, 2026 20:50
    Isn't the whole point of an RV park to charge your vehicle?
    132AnonymousAug 24, 2026 20:52
    Re: #128
    In a lot of areas there's parking for gas-powered cars too
    139AnonymousAug 24, 2026 20:56
    If you're not charging, you could just take a coin shower and sleep in the car at a Lawson (convenience store), right?
    141AnonymousAug 24, 2026 20:57
    Re: #139
    That's the kind of thing that makes car sleepers unwelcome, so I wouldn't recommend it
    Let's keep some decency about it
    143AnonymousAug 24, 2026 20:58
    Re: #138
    I'm not a hater
    I just don't use it to sleep overnight, otherwise I use it normally
    Apparently bed bugs don't come out if you leave the lights on

    Background and Key Points

    Sleeping in a car is legal and common enough in Japan to have a name — 車中泊 (shachū-haku) — practiced by everyone from budget tourists to full-time “van-life” travelers touring on a modest income. RV parks (RVパーク), a designation introduced by the Japan RV Association around 2018, are paid overnight lots for camper vans, typically offering a power hookup, sometimes water, and legal parking for roughly 2,000–3,000 yen a night. Manga cafés (manga kissa) like Kaikatsu Club are a separate industry entirely: pay-by-time internet/comic cafés with private booths, showers at larger locations, and all-you-can-drink soft drinks, historically used by “net café refugees” as informal long-term housing. The 12-hour night-pack rate the thread cites (around 1,650 yen) is a standard promotional price at many chains, not something unique to car sleepers.

    The actual disagreement in the thread wasn’t over the price comparison itself — nobody really contested that a manga café night pack undercuts an RV park — but over whether that comparison is even meaningful, since an RV park’s core purpose is charging an electric or equipped camper van, a service a manga café obviously can’t replace. Posters also split on manga café logistics: whether showers are reliably available, and unease over the pay-later (post-pay) system, which one commenter dismissed as outdated.

    What the thread never addresses is hygiene and legality nuance: manga cafés are not zoned or licensed as lodging, so using them as a sleep substitute exists in a gray area chains generally tolerate but don’t market, and bed-bug complaints tied to 24-hour seating are a recurring, documented issue in Japanese media coverage of net café stays — not just an idle worry.

    ※This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5channel (Newssoku VIP) thread “[Image] I sleep in my car, and I just realized manga cafes are a better deal than RV parks.”

  • “I Just Can’t Finish Cleaning!” — Man’s Live 5ch Play-by-Play of His Losing Battle With a Messy Room Goes Viral

    A thread went up on 5ch’s News VIP board where a poster live-blogged the sorry state of his messy room in real time. Replies poured in over exchanges like being asked “Did you finish cleaning?” only to get “Nope, still not done,” plus the thread’s mid-stream detour into making hamburger steak.

    1AnonymousAug 24, 2026 14:39
    Me
    4AnonymousAug 24, 2026 14:40
    Your hair's looking pretty messy too, you know
    7AnonymousAug 24, 2026 14:40
    Re: #4
    I'm not bald, thanks
    6AnonymousAug 24, 2026 14:40
    If you don't keep things tidy, a "typhoon" comes (i.e. Mom blows up)
    8AnonymousAug 24, 2026 14:41
    Re: #6
    Seriously?! That's terrifying
    14AnonymousAug 24, 2026 14:46
    Re: #10
    Yikes
    22AnonymousAug 24, 2026 14:55
    I won't accept anything that isn't raw
    23AnonymousAug 24, 2026 14:56
    Re: #22
    You're gonna crack a tooth doing that~
    25AnonymousAug 24, 2026 14:58
    Let's just give up on the room and live out of the Hustler (Suzuki's kei car)
    28AnonymousAug 24, 2026 15:01
    Re: #25
    That might actually work
    33AnonymousAug 24, 2026 15:19
    Did you finish cleaning?
    35AnonymousAug 24, 2026 15:22
    Re: #33
    Nope, not done
    36AnonymousAug 24, 2026 15:22
    Re: #35
    Ugh! How many days have you been "cleaning" now?! Mom told you—when you do it, just get it done already!
    39AnonymousAug 24, 2026 15:26
    Re: #36
    Sorry, Mom
    I'm a turtle
    45AnonymousAug 24, 2026 15:36
    Ado gets mixed reactions, but I love that powerful voice of hers
    46AnonymousAug 24, 2026 15:37
    Re: #45
    I love "Usseewa" (her breakout hit song)
    50AnonymousAug 24, 2026 15:46
    Re: #48
    What should I eat?
    51AnonymousAug 24, 2026 15:47
    Re: #50
    Kinda want some chocolate
    Wanna hit a convenience store, drugstore, or supermarket, but it looks hot out
    52AnonymousAug 24, 2026 15:53
    Re: #51
    Let's go somewhere up high
    53AnonymousAug 24, 2026 15:53



    Coffee jelly is so good!
    61AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:26
    Re: #59
    It'll be fine — can't really put it into words, but I've got a feeling Bon (his nickname in the thread) will somehow pull it off
    64AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:38
    Re: #61
    I'm starving (lit. "peko-peko")
    70AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:48
    Wait, didn't you buy that car for work use?
    73AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:55
    Re: #70
    Not just for commuting?
    71AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:51
    Slap Kasa-bon and he'll hate you
    Just a little trivia for ya
    78AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:09
    Re: #71
    That's the "well, obviously" routine right there
    86AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:25
    So you're using your own car for work and covering insurance yourself too?
    No reimbursement from the company?
    90AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:32
    Re: #86
    Nah, I don't use my own car for it
    115AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:26
    Let's make a "bulked-up" donburi bowl!
    116AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:48
    Re: #115
    What should I put on top?
    119AnonymousAug 24, 2026 19:12
    Re: #116
    Stack hamburger steaks — a hamburger-steak "bulk-up" bowl
    121AnonymousAug 24, 2026 19:23
    Re: #119
    Bulk it up, bulk it uuup!
    127AnonymousAug 24, 2026 19:56
    Hamburger steak's done
    131AnonymousAug 24, 2026 20:14
    Re: #127
    Looks tasty but the shot's too close-up to really tell lol
    130AnonymousAug 24, 2026 20:14
    Re: #128
    Don't people from Aichi Prefecture go there?
    133AnonymousAug 24, 2026 20:15
    Re: #130
    I think they do
    135AnonymousAug 24, 2026 20:16
    Re: #133
    Maybe people in Aichi prefer places like Asakuma or Bronco Billy? (regional hamburger-steak chains)
    137AnonymousAug 24, 2026 20:28
    Re: #135
    Maybe so
    140AnonymousAug 24, 2026 20:31
    Re: #138
    I always pictured Bon-chan making it all from scratch, but…
    143AnonymousAug 24, 2026 20:44
    Re: #140
    Making hamburger steak is a lot of work
    145AnonymousAug 24, 2026 20:45
    Contactless payment's old news by now, but some days the reader's snappy and some days it's sluggish
    148AnonymousAug 24, 2026 20:50
    Re: #145
    Tapping it perks me up, so eh, it's fine
    146AnonymousAug 24, 2026 20:45
    Went to watch some rubber-ball baseball today
    If I can get up, I'll go again tomorrow
    150AnonymousAug 24, 2026 21:08
    Re: #146
    Let's go again tomorrow~

    Background and Key Points

    For readers unfamiliar with the format: this is a “jikkyō” (live-report) thread on 5ch’s News VIP board, where a poster narrates an ordinary situation — here, failing to clean his room — in real time while other users reply line by line, often derailing into tangents. The recurring “typhoon” gag refers to his mother’s temper, not weather; it reflects how common it still is for young unmarried men in Japan to live with parents well into adulthood, making a messy room a household issue rather than a private one. The kei car mentioned (Suzuki Hustler) is the compact, low-tax vehicle class ubiquitous for short trips and light work use in Japan, which is why posters questioned whether it doubled as a company vehicle. Asakuma and Bronco Billy, brought up around the hamburger steak (hambāgu), are hamburger-steak restaurant chains concentrated in Aichi Prefecture (the Nagoya region), a regional food culture outsiders often don’t recognize as distinct from nationwide chains.

    The thread doesn’t really split into camps — it’s less a debate than a drift, moving from cleaning excuses to snack cravings to a home-cooked hamburger-steak “bulk-up” bowl to watching nankyū (rubber-ball, as opposed to hardball) amateur baseball, a widely played recreational sport in Japan.

    What’s easy to miss is that the actual cleaning is never resolved on-thread; the “story” readers are chasing — will the room get clean? — is abandoned in favor of food and baseball, which is itself typical of how these live threads actually play out.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News VIP) thread “The Boy Whose Room Is a Total Mess Lolololololol.”

  • Priconne Finally Adds ‘Individual Route’ After 8.5 Years — Fans Rejoice, 5ch Asks ‘Wait, People Are Picking the Cow and the Alpaca?’

    A casual chat thread on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyou G” (Live Anything G) board. The main topic was the “individual route” scene — finally letting players pick just one girl — added to the mobile game Priconne after eight and a half years; when a tweet introducing it got posted, the thread lit up with comments like “So glad I stuck with this game all this time.”

    Alongside that, trivia about Kagawa Prefecture, vtuber fan art, and anime chatter kept flowing in, true to the scattershot nature of a live chat thread.

    7AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:49
    Kanata-tan will be the judge






    Kukoha is…… a trap🙅
    10AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:50
    Glad I was born in Kagawa Prefecture👊😅👊
    12AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:52
    Re: #10
    Universally hated trash anime
    22AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:55
    Glad I was born in Kagawa Prefecture👊😅👊
    https://hisshobon.com/sys/wp-content/uploads/data_mmgate_machine_4767_yuyuyu7500_kitaido_16.jpg
    26AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:56
    Gonna eat the octopus, nyaa~?
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQc1q3makAE8glz.jpg
    28AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:56
    Re: #26
    Nnasshoi!🍄💦
    40AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:57
    Re: #26
    Nnapai!😍
    29AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:56
    Whaddaya call this thing?!
    31AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:56
    Re: #29
    Bun bun buuun!🐧
    36AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:57
    Re: #31
    Kon koko konkonko konkonkon✊
    37AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:57
    Re: #31
    Unchapuryapurya!
    55AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:59
    What's the song in the thread title?
    59AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:59
    Re: #55
    Today's ending theme from 'Kyou no Go-no-Ni' (Class 5-2)
    61AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:59
    Re: #55
    The ending theme from 'Anohana: The Flower We Saw That Day'
    66AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:00
    Re: #55
    You don't know 'Kids War'? What kind of fake fan are you?
    57AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:59
    Nice vibes in here — dropping a Hololive summer Fubu-tan (Shirakami Fubuki) love-love art set












    76AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:01
    Make Kemono Friends 3 already!!!!😡

    79AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:02
    Re: #76
    Lol what's that
    90AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:04
    Re: #76
    What Friend is the one on the far right even supposed to be?
    113AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:07
    Re: #76
    Today I'm introducing a dirt-cheap guesthouse for broke Kiritan (Tohoku Kiritan mascot character)🫛
    100AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:05
    Hell yeah.

    109AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:06
    Re: #100
    They jack prices up like 30% without blinking, but a price cut is just 10 yen? Are they messing with us???
    151AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:13
    Squee😍

    [Cover] Sanbagarasu Kanjinbushi ~GRANBLUE FANTASY~ covered by Hanabatake Chaika & Maimoto Keisuke & Belmond Banderas【NIJISANJI】
    https://youtu.be/fNLijvU3ocM https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fNLijvU3ocM/maxresdefault.jpg
    161AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:14
    Re: #151
    Chaika's just funny, man
    156AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:14
    What's even in Kagawa?
    Udon doesn't count as an answer
    204AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:19
    Re: #156
    Honetsuki-dori (bone-in grilled chicken leg)
    https://cdn.snsimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/userstorage/000/041/665/819/f4962d8ca0.jpg
    225AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:21
    Re: #156
    Marugame Castle
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eaxb1LRUEAElVTj.png
    253AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:24
    Re: #156
    The Slowpoke Prefecture (Kagawa's tourism-collab nickname)
    https://www.city.kanonji.kagawa.jp/uploaded/life/41164_80782_img.jpg
    261AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:24

    267AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:25
    Re: #261
    Is this Shiranui Flare?
    307AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:29
    So who'd you all pick?

    Kemu @prin_kemkem (Aug 24, 2026, 12:37:41 PM)
    Priconne is a fully-voiced RPG with over 100 female characters, and in the final-boss showdown event that dropped yesterday, they finally added the "pick just one girl" individual route scene every player had given up hoping for over 8.5 years — timelines are flooded with people saying "I'm so glad I stuck with Priconne all this time."
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQdS0kbbYAA824U.jpg
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQdS1RxbUAA5m0L.jpg
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQdS1yAbcAAdpVk.jpg
    https://x.com/prin_kemkem/status/2091731644940235046
    317AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:30
    Re: #307
    I don't touch the battle events, so it's a real pain when the story gets locked behind them
    320AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:30
    Re: #307
    Wait, people are actually picking the cow or the alpaca?😅

    Background and Key Points

    Priconne — officially Princess Connect! Re:Dive — is Cygames’ mobile RPG that launched in February 2018, making the “8.5 years” in the thread’s title literal: this is a title with a long-running, loyal fanbase and a cast that has swelled past 100 fully-voiced female characters. Unlike gacha games built around dating-sim mechanics, Priconne has historically kept its story ensemble-driven, deliberately avoiding scenes that single out one heroine as the protagonist’s favorite — a structural choice that heads off “shipping wars” among a playerbase attached to very different characters. An “individual route,” a term borrowed from visual-novel conventions, means a branch where the story narrows to one chosen girl exclusively; that Priconne finally added one, gated behind a final-boss event, is why longtime players are reacting with relief and nostalgia rather than casual interest.

    The thread doesn’t actually argue about whether the feature was good — that’s assumed. The one flicker of disagreement is in the final exchange: one poster grumbles that skipping battle events (which many players do) locks them out of story content, while another reacts with surprise that some players used their one pick on the joke/animal-themed characters (referred to as “the cow” and “the alpaca”) rather than a marquee heroine.

    What’s easy to miss without Priconne context: this isn’t a new dating-sim mode, just a single scene type added to one event, and the “shock” isn’t about the mechanic itself but about which characters got chosen — the humor assumes readers already know that Priconne’s cast includes several non-human, animal-humanoid side characters competing for attention alongside its human leads.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyou G) thread “Still Believing in Double-Pan This August, 10 Years From Now~👊😅👊🏡” (a recurring in-joke thread title).

  • Children and Families Agency Requests Record ¥7.8 Trillion for Next Fiscal Year — 5ch: ‘Show Us the Breakdown’

    It was reported that Japan’s Children and Families Agency plans to request about ¥7.8 trillion in its budget request for fiscal 2027 — the largest amount since the agency’s founding — sparking a divided debate on a 5ch thread. Supporters argued that benefits and support for child-raising households are actually insufficient, while skeptics countered that it’s unreasonable to face criticism without disclosing a breakdown, insisting the agency show where the money would go first. The discussion also touched on individual budget items, including the gap between existing programs like child allowances and free childcare and the requested amount, as well as the scrapped AI development project and the use of funds from the so-called ‘singles tax.’

    The Children and Families Agency has begun coordinating to request about ¥7.8 trillion in its initial fiscal 2027 budget request — the largest amount since its establishment in 2023. This is roughly ¥320 billion more than the previous year’s request. It includes funding for countermeasures against the record-high number of child suicides and for improving the environment around children’s social media use.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    9AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:19
    I don't buy the criticism of the Children and Families Agency.
    Most of this budget goes toward managing benefit payments and actual support for households raising kids — if anything it's not enough, it's not something you can just cut.
    13AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:21
    Re: #9
    That's exactly why they should publish it with that stuff excluded.
    There's definitely a ton of unnecessary stuff in there too.
    62AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:42
    Re: #9
    Then show us the breakdown 😅
    You said it, so you can back it up, right?
    11AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:21
    After-school childcare programs these days even handle pickup/drop-off for the kids, so the burden on families is actually low — but it genuinely costs more than it used to.
    I get why single people complain, but it's wild seeing parents who are actually raising kids say to abolish the Children and Families Agency.
    21AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:28
    Re: #11
    Where is this after-school program with pickup service? Seriously, I can't even find it when I search.
    29AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:30
    Re: #21
    Well, not exactly pickup, but they do come get the kids from school once classes end.
    33AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:32
    Re: #29
    Re: #11 is saying the after-school program drops kids off at home.
    24AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:29
    Re: #19
    The topic here is the ¥7.8 trillion, though? Do you even know what we're talking about?
    44AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:36
    Re: #24
    The broad outline is similar to this, right?
    50AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:38
    Re: #44
    I'm saying it's increasing because things are changing.
    You can't just fill in the blanks yourself and then claim it can't be cut — that's the point I'm making.
    58AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:40
    Re: #50
    Then tell me exactly what and how much you think can be cut.
    61AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:41
    Re: #50
    It's only going up 4%, so nothing's really changing.
    53AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:39
    I can easily imagine that reviewing how the budget's spent would turn up waste.
    If anything, a review would probably show it's not enough.
    56AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:40
    Why is the budget going up when the number of children is going down?
    64AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:42
    Re: #56
    Because the number of adults is shrinking too.
    65AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:42
    Re: #56
    Everyone already knows that much.
    74AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:46
    Re: #64
    Is that even relevant?

    Re: #65
    Care to explain?
    76AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:48
    Re: #74
    Parents these days both work, so childcare gets outsourced from age zero.
    Can't believe you don't even know that.
    Scary.
    80AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:50
    Re: #76
    That cost should be borne by the couple outsourcing it — it's no reason for the Children and Families Agency to foot the bill.
    If you can't cover daycare operating costs, have one of you quit and raise the kid at home.
    Why are you married couples using us single people's tax money just so you can both keep working?
    137AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:11
    Number of children born in 2025:
    671,236

    If you split ¥7.8 trillion among newborns,
    that's about ¥11,620,637 per child.

    Just scrap the agency and wire ¥10 million to every family that has a kid.
    That leaves ¥1 trillion left over, so hand that out to preschool/kindergarten workers.

    Problem solved, birthrate crisis over.
    145AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:15
    Re: #137
    It's obvious some parents would blow the money on useless stuff, and rich households, poor households, and single-parent households are all in different situations, so it wouldn't solve anything.
    148AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:17
    Re: #137
    Once the subsidy amount is public knowledge, it just becomes a target to squeeze — you can tell from how maternity hospitals raised their fees to match the increased childbirth lump-sum payment. But with an amount that big, whoever's trying to price-gouge off the back of it would have a hard time deciding how much to jack prices up.
    161AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:26
    What's with the people going red-faced (spamming under one ID) making this bizarre argument that raising kids costs money?
    That has nothing to do with the Children and Families Agency.
    163AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:27
    Re: #161
    Well, the fact that raising kids costs money is one of the causes of the falling birthrate, isn't it?
    168AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:30
    Re: #161
    That's because most of the Children and Families Agency's budget is childcare-related spending.
    Even if you abolished the agency, some other ministry would just end up handling child support with that same money.
    177AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:35
    Re: #161
    The whole point is that raising kids costs money, which is why there are all these allowances and support programs — yet people come in with criticism from completely out of left field, like 'it's pointless, stop wasting tax money.'
    173AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:33
    Children and Families Agency policies:
    ・Collaboration with the J.League
    ・Priority lanes for children at national facilities
    ・Subsidies for open-plan kitchens
    ・Home visits for child-raising households
    ・Training personnel to advise children on sex education (5-year plan)
    ・Abuse-detection AI → spent ¥1 billion, then scrapped it
    ・Introduction of the 'singles tax'
    ・Handling adult advertising
    181AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:35
    Re: #173
    Honestly, I get why they'd want to develop abuse-detection AI.
    These days, if a couple with a young kid has a loud enough argument that the neighbors hear it, a child welfare center worker shows up the next day citing psychological abuse.
    193AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:38
    Re: #173
    They've positioned the past few years as the peak of countermeasures, with the period through 2027 marked as the intensive push — that's why it's like this.
    'It's only been around a short time' has nothing to do with it.
    174AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:34
    I'm not saying the Children and Families Agency is worthless across the board, but I don't get why it needs ¥7.8 trillion.

    It's crazy that the gap between this and the defense budget — which covers that many SDF personnel plus missiles, tanks, and fighter jets — is only ¥1-2 trillion.
    180AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:35
    Re: #174
    What's with people who complain without even checking something you could look up in two seconds?

    Child allowances, free childcare, better pay for daycare workers, higher-education support — basically everything the public said was needed for birthrate countermeasures is in there.
    197AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:40
    Re: #180
    Even so, isn't it too much?
    Add up all those allowances together and the total payout is ¥3 trillion.

    What's the other ¥4 trillion going toward?
    200AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:41
    Re: #197
    Which part don't you get?
    236AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:58
    Re: #234
    Specifically, what part of Re: #200 is wasteful?
    203AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:43
    With my totally amateur logic, I'd think just paying ¥5 million per kid born would boost the birthrate.
    Wouldn't that work? Even on average a person pays tens of millions of yen in taxes over a lifetime, so it seems like it'd easily pay for itself.
    206AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:45
    Re: #203
    It'd be a problem if the kid got killed right after birth for the money, so wouldn't long-term monthly payments be better?
    214AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:49
    Re: #203
    You'd risk people having kids carelessly just for the payout, or criminals exploiting it.

    If it's that easy to casually have a kid, the government needs to have facilities and systems ready to clean up the mess.
    225AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:53
    Made school lunches free using the singles tax 🤗
    https://imgur.com/sa1uBew.jpeg
    231AnonymousAug 24, 2026 18:55
    Re: #225
    Add the leftover-heavy lunch budget on top of the existing lunch fees and you could feed the kids sushi or steak — this is way too much money considering how few kids there are.

    Background and Key Points

    The Children and Families Agency (Kodomo Katei-cho) is a young institution, created in April 2023 by pulling child-welfare, childcare, and youth-policy functions out of the health ministry and Cabinet Office into one body. What’s being reported here is a “gaisan yokyu” — an initial budget request submitted each August for the fiscal year starting the following April — not an approved budget; the Finance Ministry screens these down through the autumn, and the real figure is fixed only when the Diet passes the budget around March. ¥7.8 trillion would be roughly a fourteenth of Japan’s entire general-account budget, and the thread’s comparison to the defense budget (also around ¥8-9 trillion) is a legitimate benchmark, not hyperbole. The “singles tax” mentioned is real: a child-support levy folded into health-insurance premiums from 2026, which drew that nickname because childless and unmarried payers contribute without receiving direct benefits.

    The thread’s actual fault line isn’t pro- versus anti-child-support; it’s whether a number this size is legitimate to criticize without an itemized breakdown being public, against the view that known line items (allowances, free childcare, higher-education aid) already plausibly add up given how much Japan’s system has expanded since the agency’s launch.

    What’s easy to miss is that this figure is a negotiating opener, not a check about to be cut — Japanese agencies routinely request more than the Finance Ministry ultimately grants, and prior years’ requests were similarly trimmed. Readers should also know the agency was explicitly built around a self-declared 2023-2027 “concentrated implementation period” for birthrate measures, which is why spending has been front-loaded rather than flat.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread ‘Children and Families Agency: Give Us ¥7.8 Trillion’.

  • Imu-Sama Bears a Contract Mark — ‘Secret Mastermind’ Theory Emerges; 5ch: ‘Now They’re Even Ripping Off Naruto’

    In the latest One Piece chapter, what looks like a “Deep Sea Contract” mark was spotted on the arm of Imu-sama — long assumed to be the series’ ultimate villain — sparking speculation on 5ch’s Nandemo Jikkyo (“Everything Live”) board that Imu might actually answer to someone even higher up. Alongside joking theories comparing the mark to religious motifs like Buddha or Christ, plenty of commenters also vented frustration over the series dragging on and its recent story direction.

    1AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:16
    There's a Deep Sea Contract mark on his arm, so it looks like he's got someone he's contracted with.
    pbs.twimg.com/media/HQbAhIZaUAABilL.jpg
    pbs.twimg.com/media/HQdpFA6bEAAT0Bx.jpg
    6AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:18
    I mean, he was the weakest of the original 20 kings anyway.
    10AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:21
    That art looks like he couldn't be bothered to draw it properly. Feels like there's a war going on in Oda's head between 'I want to draw every little detail' Oda and 'I just want this to be easier' Oda.
    11AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:21
    So the big boss is rocking a tattoo that looks like a kid drew it?
    12AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:21
    Just wrap it up already, seriously.
    13AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:22
    If Imu is the Buddha, then of course there's a Great Buddha out there too.
    17AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:26
    Re: #13
    Whaaat?! Now THAT'S a wild theory!!
    22AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:28
    Re: #13
    There's already a 'Human-Human Fruit, Model: Great Buddha' in the story, you know. The Great Buddha is real!
    41AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:39
    Re: #13
    So now, at this point, we're getting the 'Sengoku is the mastermind' theory?
    15AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:26
    Design looks like something Umezawa Fumio would sign off on (a TV personality famously mocked for his gaudy, tacky fashion sense).
    20AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:27
    This isn't what One Piece fans wanted — they wanted a battle with Blackbeard and the like.
    23AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:28
    Feels like even the author doesn't know what he's going for anymore.
    28AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:32
    So now they're even ripping off Naruto?
    32AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:34
    Ace… tell me that's fake?
    98AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:29
    Re: #32
    Did they actually misspell ACE as ASE?
    34AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:35
    Wasn't it already 5 years since he said 'it'll be over in 5 years'? At this rate it's not gonna be over even 5 more years from now lol
    42AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:41
    Re: #34
    Make that another 15 years.
    46AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:43
    Re: #34
    That's 5 years on the in-story timeline. It's probably only been a few months so far.
    35AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:36
    Wait, is Kid just done showing up now? I liked him precisely because he's such an edgelord…
    39AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:38
    Re: #35
    Same, I want to see the Heart Pirates again too, so I wish they'd hurry up and wrap the Elbaf arc already.
    50AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:47
    Imu = Buddha. So all that's left is Muhammad and Jesus?
    53AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:51
    Re: #50
    This guy's surname is Nerona = God, so that one's covered too.
    52AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:51
    He won't listen to his editor, but the second readers start bashing him he randomly course-corrects — so you end up with the worst possible outcome: characters that are all over the place.
    60AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:57
    It'll probably end with him and Blackbeard just trading exhausted punches till it's over.
    62AnonymousAug 24, 2026 16:59
    Re: #60
    Both of them burn through their Devil Fruit powers and Haki, it turns into a bare-knuckle brawl, they each lose an arm, and then collapse after making a heart shape with their own blood or something?
    71AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:05
    So he's saying he'll blaspheme Christ, Abraham, every god there is? That's basically Kiryu talking (a delinquent-manga antagonist from Crows/Worst famous for vowing to take on everyone, gods included).
    74AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:06
    Re: #71
    You bastard—!! There's no way Oda-sensei would pull some cheap 'Tough'-style sales stunt, huh—!? (mock-shouting in the exaggerated style of delinquent manga dialogue)
    78AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:10
    Feels like this is genuinely turning into Sword Master Yamato at this point (a manga infamous for dragging its plot on forever without resolution).
    81AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:11
    Re: #78
    Ooh, you said it, you actually said it.
    87AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:15
    Re: #78
    Though to be fair, Sword Master Yamato did wrap up all its foreshadowing and mysteries in one go by the end.
    84AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:14
    Feels like you guys are just bashing Oda nonstop, huh? I mean sure, One Piece isn't great right now, but… what, did people here actually have high expectations for it?
    89AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:18
    Re: #84
    Jujutsu Kaisen was like that through its whole second half too. Once it ends, the complaints stop.
    92AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:22
    Re: #84
    At the end of the day, people are still following the latest chapters. Well, I get wanting to complain though.
    86AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:15
    Honestly, it's been out of step with readers ever since the 'every pirate crew needs a musician lol' logic behind Brook joining. 20 years of this, and readers have gradually been filtered out to get where we are now. I wonder what percentage of the original readership is even left.
    90AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:20
    Re: #86
    Thriller Bark started after the series' 10th anniversary, and even by that point the story really hadn't progressed much.
    101AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:32
    He's been one of the pillars propping up Jump all this time, warts and all, so the least they could do is let him reach his own ending instead of just cancelling it. They slapped the label 'Final Saga' on it, so everyone assumed it was actually ending and they held off making movies after RED — but now it looks like it's not ending after all, since they've started making movies again. If one's slated for a 2029 release, that means they're estimating at least 3 more years before it wraps. Which, in 'Oda math,' means it's got another 9 years in it.
    111AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:44
    Re: #101
    Hard to say how the Jump editorial team actually feels about the dragging-on. If they're just grateful for the sales it brings in, they'd probably want it to run forever. But if they think it's become unsightly as a manga and that he should wrap it up already, then the trust between them is probably eroding.
    102AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:35
    Wasn't Kaido supposed to be the strongest creature alive? Is that getting 'Pell'-ed too? (a running joke referencing how side character Pell's death was quietly retconned, i.e. continuity getting silently ignored)
    107AnonymousAug 24, 2026 17:41
    Re: #102
    Best not to think too hard about consistency at this point.
    Characters just talk about what they personally know. That's how it works in real life, right? It'd be weird if fiction worked differently from reality when reality is like that.
    ↑ The moment you start saying that about a work of fiction, it's game over.
    Then what about stuff like stretching arms — things that are flat-out impossible in reality — what about that kind of creative license, huh?
    It's precisely because it's impossible in reality that the audience has to imagine the world based on the information given within the story — if you reject that, they've got nothing left to go on.

    Background and Key Points

    Imu-sama has functioned as One Piece’s ultimate hidden authority since first appearing seated on the “Empty Throne” in Mary Geoise, the secret seat of the World Government that even the Five Elders answer to — until now, the character has been treated as the setting’s apex, faceless evil, so any new visual detail on Imu’s body is unusually significant worldbuilding. The manga has run in Weekly Shonen Jump since 1997 and is currently in its self-declared “Final Saga”; Oda has previously said in interviews that the story would wrap up in roughly five years, a promise commenters in this thread openly doubt given the story’s continued expansion into new arcs and tie-in films.

    The thread’s actual split is between readers treating the newly spotted “Deep Sea Contract” mark as real lore — fuel for theories that Imu itself is subordinate to some higher, quasi-religious power, echoing the series’ existing Buddha-model Devil Fruit — and readers who wave it off as a rushed, low-effort design choice, folding it into broader complaints about pacing, inconsistent characterization, and the series being compared to Naruto and to Sword Master Yamato, a manga Japanese fans invoke as shorthand for endless, unresolved plotting.

    What’s easy to miss without Japanese-manga-fan context is that the “Deep Sea Contract” term has never been defined in the story before this chapter — it appears only as a design element in the raw artwork, so every theory floated here, including the Buddha and “secret mastermind” readings, is speculation built on one ambiguous drawing rather than confirmed plot content.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo board) thread “[Sad News] One Piece’s Imu-Sama Turns Out to Be Just Some Familiar’s Pet lmaooooooooooo.”

  • Maria Makino Graduated Almost Six Months Ago — Why Hasn’t the ‘Marian Withdrawal’ Hit?

    A thread was started asking why, after Maria Makino’s graduation from Morning Musume, there’s still no sign of “Marian withdrawal” (fans missing her), when “Sayumi Michishige withdrawal” and “Masaki Sato withdrawal” were both clearly visible within months of their respective graduations. Posters pointed to her heavy media exposure on shows like Lovit and to the fact she was already known more as a baseball fan than as an idol, while opinions split over the circumstances of her graduation.

    1AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:05
    You could spot "Chayu withdrawal" (Sayumi Michishige's nickname) and "Ma-chan withdrawal" (Masaki Sato's nickname) popping up about 3 months after they graduated,
    but I've never once heard of "Marian withdrawal"! Not a peep!
    2AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:07
    Probably because she didn't actually retire.
    If she'd retired for real, it'd be a totally different story.
    68AnonymousAug 24, 2026 14:44
    Re: #2
    Wait, did Sato retire?
    4AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:07
    Because you can still catch her all the time on shows like Lovit.
    5AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:09
    She was always more "the baseball girl" than a group member to begin with.
    9AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:13
    Re: #5
    Exactly!
    She's not "Morning Musume's resident baseball fan" —
    she's "a die-hard baseball otaku who just happened to end up in Hello! Project."
    12AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:16
    Once it became nothing but baseball, baseball, baseball,
    everyone had already checked out.
    24AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:22
    Because she's on TV practically every week.
    30AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:25
    Re: #24
    And yet zero buzz about it lol
    25AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:22
    Hello! Project fans had already forgotten her by the 2-month mark,
    so there's no way they'd suddenly remember her at 3 months.
    27AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:24
    Probably because you can find her literally anywhere.
    31AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:25
    Wasn't it the "my microwave broke" story that drove fans away? (an anecdote of hers fans found off-putting)
    73AnonymousAug 24, 2026 15:12
    Re: #31
    No, fans drifted off over the Hikaru Genji thing. (a boy band she's a fan of)
    32AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:26
    She's more in the public eye now than she ever was as a Musume member.
    35AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:27
    Re: #32
    Are the stadium stands really "the public eye," though?
    33AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:26
    Appearing on Lovit — aka "Oha Suta for NEETs" — is basically her reason for living. (Oha Suta is a kids' morning show; the joke is Lovit fills the same slot for unemployed adults)
    34AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:27
    You don't get to call her "despised"
    unless you're talking about someone who has 1.9 million fewer followers than their former groupmate
    on both Instagram and YouTube.
    36AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:28
    Re: #34
    Quit it, you'll make the guy desperately spamming posts cry.
    38AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:29
    Antis start a thread about her every single day, so there's no way she's been forgotten lol
    39AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:30
    With "Drum Onee-san" gone, the baseball segments are now going to Anmi and Honoho instead. (nickname referencing Makino's taiko drumming at ballgames)
    40AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:30
    She should just hurry up and switch agencies already.
    43AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:38
    Re: #40
    She's one of Kawabe's people, so she's not moving until the 30th anniversary. (Kawabe, a Hello! Project executive)
    48AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:47
    Re: #40
    You want her to move to Yoshimoto and end up like the ones who only ever get stuck with "yogore" work? (Yoshimoto Kogyo, a comedy talent agency; "yogore" means messy, humiliating stunt-comedy gigs)
    42AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:36
    Simple answer:
    because she's always on TV.
    45AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:39
    Still can't quite tell whether she was pushed out or left on her own.
    49AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:53
    Re: #45
    Being graduated just 2 months after the announcement was clearly a rushed firing.
    50AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:59
    She's been working nonstop without a single gap, so there's no room to even feel the loss.
    52AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:01
    Re: #50
    So you're saying her work as an idol never mattered anyway?
    55AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:15
    Same as how there was never any "Ikuta withdrawal" either. (Erina Ikuta, another former member)
    59AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:26
    Even the antis can't stop talking about her — sounds like they're going through withdrawal too lol
    66AnonymousAug 24, 2026 14:05
    Re: #59
    Right, lol
    The antis are the ones saying "Makino, Makino" nonstop more than anyone lol

    Background and Key Points

    Maria Makino graduated from Morning Musume — the flagship group of Hello! Project, Japan’s dominant idol-management institution built on decades-old franchises like Morning Musume, ANGERME, and Juice=Juice — roughly six months before this thread appeared. Within Hello! Project fandom, “withdrawal” (ロス, “loss”) is a recognized post-graduation phenomenon: fans openly missing a departed member is treated as a rough gauge of her impact, and past graduates like Sayumi Michishige and Masaki Sato reportedly triggered visible “loss” chatter within about three months. Makino’s case stands out because that reaction never materialized, which is what prompted the thread.

    The posts don’t converge on a single explanation so much as offer competing ones without resolving them. Some frame it structurally — she never really left the public eye, appearing regularly on shows like Lovit, so there’s no absence to mourn. Others frame it as an identity issue — she was already known primarily as a baseball fan (nicknamed for drumming at games) rather than as a idol performer, so her graduation didn’t remove a “member” so much as relocate a baseball personality. A third strand disputes the premise itself, with posters debating whether she was pushed out or left voluntarily, and whether antagonism from critics (who apparently still post about her daily) actually counts as a form of not-forgetting.

    What’s likely to trip up readers unfamiliar with H!P fan culture is that “loss” isn’t simple sentimentality — it’s a fandom-internal metric fans use to rank how much a member mattered, and its absence here is being read as a quiet verdict on her standing, not just a comment on her TV schedule. The thread never addresses whether Makino’s post-graduation media appearances are under Hello! Project’s management or a new arrangement, which would materially change the “she never really left” argument.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “It’s Been Almost Six Months Since Maria Makino Graduated — Why Isn’t ‘Marian Withdrawal’ Happening?”.

  • Man Who FIRE’d with ¥150 Million Gets Called Out in Daughter’s Picture Diary: ‘Dad Just Lounges Around All Day’

    Daisuke Nomura (pseudonym, 46), who worked as a systems engineer at a foreign-owned IT company and reached an annual salary of ¥14 million, achieved FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) at 45 with ¥150 million in assets. However, his fourth-grade daughter’s summer vacation picture diary reportedly read, “Dad just lounges around in the living room all day looking at his phone.” On 5ch, opinions flew back and forth — “What’s the point of FIRE-ing with no goal?” and “If you’ve got a wife and kids, at least do the housework if you’re going to FIRE” — while plenty of others pointed out the sheer formula of how these asset-flex puff pieces keep getting churned out.

    “Dad just lounges around in the living room on his phone all day. He only goes for a walk once in a while.”

    Daisuke Nomura (46, pseudonym), who lives in a condominium in Tokyo, was left speechless after peeking at the picture diary of his only daughter, 10-year-old Misaki (pseudonym), a fourth-grader. The page, submitted as summer homework, contained an honest, merciless dose of “contempt” for her father.

    Daisuke worked grueling hours as a systems engineer at a foreign-owned IT firm, with his annual salary peaking at ¥14 million. Starting in his early 30s, he built up his savings through relentless frugality and investing. At 45, once his managed assets hit ¥150 million, he retired and finally achieved his long-cherished goal of FIRE.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    7AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:39
    So women have been one-upping each other over other people's jobs since they were kids?
    11AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:40
    Re: #7
    Even among guys, a parent's job can be a reason for bullying too.
    What's this guy's deal?
    8AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:39
    Retiring early (FIRE) with no goal in mind — isn't that just dumb?
    15AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:41
    Re: #8
    Maybe FIRE itself was the goal.
    9AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:39
    Today's 'salty singles' thread
    90AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:38
    Re: #9
    Don't you mean the 'salty unemployed guys' thread?
    10AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:40
    AI-written filler articles are getting more polished these days, huh.
    12AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:40
    His wife pulling in ¥6 million a year is broken.
    13AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:40
    Whoa, seriously — forget FIRE, guess I'll just keep working.
    14AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:41
    Lol people get genuinely furious every time even though it's clearly a made-up story.
    17AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:42
    Back in elementary school we had this class where everyone announced their parents' jobs, and there was a kid who said 'both my parents are unemployed' — it was so awkward I couldn't stand it.
    18AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:42
    Last time it was a guy with ¥120 million — they just keep cranking these out one after another.
    19AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:42
    Quiz: how many times does the word 'pseudonym' show up?
    20AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:43
    FIRE is inconvenient for the ruling class, so they keep trying to push out nothing but negative stories about it.
    21AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:43
    I really want to block Gold Online and Financial World (finance sites notorious for these clickbait wealth-flex stories).
    22AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:43
    If his wife were a stay-at-home mom, fine, but if she's working, he should be doing the housework once he's FIRE'd.
    28AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:44
    Re: #22
    Isn't that basically just a stay-at-home dad at that point?
    23AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:43
    I want to make things a bit easier on my wife.
    27AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:44
    They do this every single time — churning out articles like they're mass-producing gag threads from old-school 2channel.
    33AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:47
    In the end it's probably self-satisfying for him, but to everyone else a guy who's home all day just looks like a NEET (not in education, employment, or training), so of course he gets looked down on. Honestly, he'd have more to brag about doing parking-lot traffic duty at a supermarket.
    37AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:49
    Re: #33
    That's not true. Go to central Tokyo and you'll see rich people strolling around in the middle of the day, walking their dogs or relaxing in cafes.
    39AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:51
    Re: #37
    Could just be their day off, though.
    43AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:51
    Re: #37
    Put another way, he only gets looked down on because he stays inside the house — if he relaxed outside instead, wouldn't that fix it?
    42AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:51
    Kids grow up watching their father's back, you know. What happens to a kid who grows up watching an unemployed dad? Quitting your job before your kid's independent is basically abuse.
    49AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:54
    Re: #42
    It's a question of whether she follows her parent's example and aims to become a 'certified NEET' — aka a housewife — or not.
    45AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:51
    Who FIREs with a wife and kids? Only single guys living the bachelor life should get to FIRE.
    47AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:53
    Re: #45
    Uh, I'm a married-with-kids FIRE guy myself, though?
    50AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:54
    If you're just gonna stay inside the house, there was no point FIRE-ing in the first place. If I FIRE'd, I'd want to be outside all the time.
    52AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:55
    Re: #50
    Those young guys riding road bikes in the middle of a weekday afternoon are probably this type.
    56AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:59
    Re: #52
    Plenty of jobs have weekdays off, you know.
    60AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:00
    Re: #56
    There's a whole bunch of them riding together in a group, though.
    71AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:12
    There's no way you can pull this off with a kid on just this amount of money.
    76AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:27
    Re: #71
    His wife's bringing in ¥6 million, so the household income is effectively ¥12 million — which makes it even more like, 'at least do the housework, dude.'
    77AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:27
    Funny how it's always 'just over ¥100 million' in every single one of these.
    86AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:34
    Re: #77
    Well, if it were ¥1 billion, the family couldn't even complain. You need to set the number at something that sounds risky enough that a screwup would actually hurt, or you don't get that on-edge tension.
    88AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:36
    If you FIRE and actually spend the time on hobbies, fine, but 'being a NEET at home' — this was probably written by someone who's never worked a day in their life. Being stuck at home all the time with your family around would be torture.
    104AnonymousAug 24, 2026 14:06
    Re: #88
    The pattern where someone FIREs, has no hobbies, feels empty, and goes back to work — that's already been done to death in the 'graduating from FIRE' stories.
    93AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:47
    Such a waste to FIRE and then keep living in the city. If it were me, I'd live on some remote island or deep in the mountains, fishing, growing vegetables, living like it's a camping trip every single day.
    94AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:53
    Re: #93
    Can't be helped if you've got kids — the education gap between Tokyo and the countryside is brutal.
    95AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:54
    Re: #93
    I want to do that too~ I'd love to hop between a different campsite every day.

    Background and Key Points

    The FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) movement took off in Japan roughly parallel to its US counterpart in the mid-2010s, but the numbers work differently here. ¥150 million is roughly $1 million at recent exchange rates, and a ¥14 million salary (~$95,000) already put Nomura in a rare bracket for a Japanese salaryman, since IT engineers at foreign firms are among the few groups who can out-earn the seniority-based pay ladders at domestic companies. Japanese financial-media outlets — sites like Gold Online and Diamond Online, referenced obliquely in the thread as “Financial World” — run a recognizable genre of these profiles, always built on a middle-aged pseudonymous man, a suspiciously round asset figure just above ¥100 million, and a domestic complication that undercuts the triumph.

    The thread’s actual disagreement wasn’t over whether FIRE is a good idea; it was over whether this story is real at all. A large share of posters treated it as a template — comment 18 recalls an almost identical ¥120 million version, and several flagged the repeated use of “pseudonym” and the formulaic structure as signs of AI-assisted or fabricated content. The minority who did engage with it as genuine split over the wife’s role, since her presumed ¥6 million income was seen as obligating him to housework.

    What the piece never mentions is the wife’s own view — the entire moral weight rests on a fourth-grader’s diary and neighborhood judgment, with no input from the person most affected by his day-to-day choices. Readers unfamiliar with this genre may also not realize how disposable these narratives are; the “FIRE burnout, returns to work” follow-up story is itself a stock sequel format in Japanese financial media.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Nanademo Jikkyo G) thread “Man Who FIRE’d with ¥150 Million Gets Called Out in Daughter’s Summer Diary: ‘Dad Just Lounges Around at Home’.”

  • Surge in Grave Closures Sparks Monk’s Complaint: “Too Poisoned by Capitalism” — 5ch Weighs In

    A video of a Buddhist monk lamenting that the growing number of Japanese people closing down their family graves are “too poisoned by capitalism” went viral on 5ch. The thread saw a wide range of opinions fly back and forth — from complaints about posthumous-name fees and temple-severance fees, to questions about how flush temples and monks themselves seem to be, to arguments that cremation alone is enough and graves aren’t even necessary.

    [Grave Closures Are Surging] The Result Capitalism Brought Us

    Source: youtube.com / Original video here

    7AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:46
    Honestly, we don't even need funerals.
    Just cremate me and call it done.
    17AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:49
    Re: #7
    Just do a subsidized cremation-only send-off.
    Leave the ashes with the funeral home and forget about them — they'll end up in some communal grave eventually anyway.
    10AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:47
    A lot of Kyoto monks cruise around in Lexuses — what's that about?
    138AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:26
    Re: #10
    Even yakuza want to get their hands on temples, so yeah, that's basically it.
    12AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:48
    That's because you people keep bleeding them dry with posthumous-name fees, memorial-anniversary fees, Obon, Higan, and whatever else.
    15AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:49
    Re: #12
    So true.
    They call it a "heartfelt donation, pay what you feel," but then get pissed if it's too little and phone in the service — makes no sense.
    13AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:49
    I visit the grave, and I pray at the family altar every day.
    Though it all ends with me.
    34AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:51
    Re: #13
    You don't have kids?
    60AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:59
    Re: #13
    Yo, last of the line lmaooo
    14AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:49
    Why don't you guys just buy a grave?
    193AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:55
    Re: #14
    Don't need one.
    I'm fine with a tree burial.
    22AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:50
    Isn't it fine to just keep the memorial tablet at home and pray to it?
    32AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:51
    Re: #22
    Apparently once you've got too many of those piled up over the generations, you can thin them out.
    A Shinto priest told me that.
    41AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:53
    Went back to my parents' place for Obon for the first time in a while and stopped by the grave — saw someone scrubbing it down with a handheld pressure washer, kind of hilarious.
    46AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:55
    Re: #41
    Honestly it's super convenient.
    You still wipe it down by hand afterward, of course.
    44AnonymousAug 24, 2026 12:54
    That's you, you crappy monk.
    The monk in my neighborhood is cruising around in a brand-new S-Class too.
    67AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:00
    Re: #44
    I really hate how lavishly Kyoto's crappy monks live it up.
    Back when I worked as a floor manager at a host club, monks would just show up wasted and hassle the girls.
    I remember thinking, this guy's a walking bundle of worldly desires.
    78AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:04
    Honestly, a big part of why Japanese people's religious faith has faded is because of stuff like this.
    89AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:06
    Re: #78
    I think that's a huge factor, honestly.
    91AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:08
    Not like the monk world has much room to talk — when they run out of money they just sell off their temple's corporate religious status to Chinese buyers at a premium.
    93AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:08
    Re: #91
    Truly the Age of Dharma Decline we're living in. (mappō — the Buddhist doctrine that the teachings are in terminal decline)
    110AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:16
    Closing down a grave just means getting fleeced for nothing, so I'll leave it be.
    It'll end up an abandoned grave once I'm gone anyway.
    111AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:17
    Re: #110
    Yeah, it really did cost a lot.
    129AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:23
    Re: #110
    Disposing of the grave itself costs money, but a lot of temples also slap you with this absurd "temple-severance fee" on top.
    113AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:18
    When I die I just want to be tossed straight into the Kamo River.
    120AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:19
    Re: #113
    That riverbank's gonna end up looking like the Heian period.
    139AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:26
    To begin with, the reason cremation is even an issue in this country is that the furnaces are calibrated to burn slowly and leave bones behind, just to suit Buddhist practice.
    Buddhism's the one causing the trouble here.
    157AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:34
    Re: #139
    Wait, seriously???
    143AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:28
    Over on the grave-closure thread on Edge, people were saying closing a grave costs money too, so just leaving it alone is the best option.
    156AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:33
    Re: #143
    Can't you just renounce the inheritance?
    154AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:33
    Monks were never really "clergy" to begin with.
    Why do you think Musashibō Benkei went around armed?
    Spreading a religion wasn't about winning converts through preaching — it was about crushing rival religions by force and scooping up the believers who'd lost their faith's home.
    That's why Benkei carried weapons.

    And where does the gambling happen in period dramas?
    At temples.
    The bookies running the gambling dens were temple monks — they were also the moneylenders of the era, and they used yakuza to collect debts.
    They'd let the yakuza run the gambling den, then lend money to the losers.
    That's actually where the word "terasen" (the house's cut of gambling winnings) comes from — "tera" means temple.
    158AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:34
    Re: #154
    The bell Benkei looted from Mount Hiei is actually on display at Onjō-ji Temple.
    Fun fact, both are in Ōtsu, right next door to Kyoto.
    And Mount Hiei, of course, is the place Nobunaga burned to the ground.
    172AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:42
    Re: #154
    Lol.
    No wonder ordinary people were so eager to join the anti-Buddhist purges back in the day.
    Should we do it again?
    194AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:55
    You can say all that, but are you really okay with never attaining Buddhahood?
    208AnonymousAug 24, 2026 14:02
    Re: #194
    Nobody even knows whether there's a Buddhahood to attain in the first place.
    239AnonymousAug 24, 2026 14:09
    Re: #194
    What, are you anti-Buddha now?
    211AnonymousAug 24, 2026 14:02
    Every time there's a memorial service, the monks' gear gets flashier.
    Lately they're clanging these cymbal-looking things nonstop — so damn loud.
    214AnonymousAug 24, 2026 14:03
    Re: #211
    Sounds like a heavy spender (like a whale in a gacha game).
    220AnonymousAug 24, 2026 14:04
    Re: #211
    That's just how Nichiren Buddhism does things.

    Background and Key Points

    The danka system that underpins this argument dates to the Edo period, when the shogunate’s terauke policy forced every household to register with a local Buddhist temple as proof it wasn’t Christian. That arrangement outlived its original anti-Christian purpose and became hereditary: families stayed tied to “their” temple for centuries, paying for kaimyō (posthumous Buddhist names, which are ranked and priced), annual memorial rites, and, if they ever try to leave, a rihikiryō (“temple-severance fee”) that can run into hundreds of thousands of yen. Meanwhile haka-jimai — closing and removing a family grave — has been rising sharply for years as rural populations shrink, families move to cities, and fewer households have heirs able to maintain a plot; local governments report grave-relocation permits roughly doubling over the past decade. Religious corporations (shūkyō hōjin) also enjoy broad tax exemptions, which is part of why lavish monk lifestyles read as galling rather than merely eccentric.

    The thread wasn’t united on where to place blame: some treated the monk’s “capitalism” complaint as projection from an institution that itself invented fee after fee, while others pushed back that shrinking, urbanizing families are the real driver and temples are simply losing customers, not corrupting them.

    What’s easy to miss is that danka membership was never a matter of personal faith to begin with — it was inherited registration, not conversion — so framing today’s exodus as people “losing religion” misreads a bureaucratic relationship as a spiritual one.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Sad News] Monk Snaps at Japanese People Who Keep Closing Down Their Graves: “Too Poisoned by Capitalism””.

  • Cat Enjoying Sparkling Water Photo Sparks ‘Feels So Good’ Buzz in 5ch Chat Thread

    In a chat thread on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” board, users kept posting photos of a cat drinking sparkling water alongside pictures from Suma Aqualife Park. AI-generated images of the mascot Funassyi and exchanges about “Tentako” (a nod to 天体観測, “stargazing”) also flew back and forth, with regulars each chiming in with their own reactions.

    13AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:05
    24AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:08
    Re: #13
    What's this cat doing?
    29AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:08
    33AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:09
    Re: #29
    SQUISH SQUISH SQUISH
    36AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:09
    Re: #29
    It stings! It stings! It stings!❗❗❗
    39AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:09
    Re: #29
    Post more😳
    53AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:11
    Suma Aquarium was awesome
    57AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:12
    Re: #53
    You're such a tab-hoarder (obscure slang, exact meaning unclear)
    59AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:12
    Re: #53
    Anything but the turtle🐢, please
    65AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:13
    Re: #53
    That's from back when they still had the turtle
    56AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:12
    Re: #39

    63AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:12
    Re: #56
    So cute😍
    61AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:12
    90AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:14
    Re: #61
    Giving a cat sparkling water feels so good!👴🏿
    68AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:13
    Funasshoi! (Funassyi's signature battle cry)
    75AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:13
    Re: #68
    What's even the point of generating and posting a boring image like that?
    114AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:17
    From here on it's like a local TV station just looping reruns until nightfall
    124AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:20
    Re: #114
    Honestly they could just loop reruns of Tagawa and Ebisu's Local Line Bus Journey (a long-running Japanese travel show) forever, that'd be fine
    137AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:26
    140AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:27
    Re: #137
    Looks tasty~👴🏿
    147AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:29
    Re: #137
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    150AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:31
    Re: #137
    Aahh, that feels good~
    139AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:27
    Glad the princess looks like she's enjoying it.
    145AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:29
    Re: #139
    The one pouring the water is cute😍
    171AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:35
    Gonna give Nekomata Okayu (a VTuber) some sparkling water, nora🍬
    174AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:36
    Re: #171
    Alright, sentenced to the stabbity-stab treatment
    187AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:40
    Re: #174
    Got a pic of Nekomata Okayu actually being made to drink sparkling water?
    172AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:35
    Just a peek

    173AnonymousAug 24, 2026 13:36
    Re: #172
    Handsome dude, lol

    Background and Key Points

    Cat drinking sparkling water photos flooding a 5ch “Nandemo Jikkyo G” (実況G, “Everything Live” board) thread taps into a running gag on Japanese image boards: pouring or spraying carbonated water on a cat and filming its startled reaction, since the fizzing sensation on wet fur makes cats flinch, shake, or bolt in a way viewers find both funny and oddly endearing. The recurring phrase “sono ba de shinu” energy aside, the specific slang thrown around here — シュワシュワ (“shuwa-shuwa,” the fizzing sound) and 名も無き修羅 style reaction shots — belongs to a broader tradition on “nora” (実況・vtuber crossover slang, roughly “loitering/idling”) threads where regulars post looping images and react in short bursts rather than debate anything substantive. Suma Aqualife Park (須磨海浜水族園), referenced via the aquarium photo, is a public aquarium in Kobe’s Suma ward, long known — and mocked online — for a beloved but now-retired giant turtle exhibit, which explains why one poster begged “anything but the turtle.”

    The thread doesn’t actually split on any real disagreement — it’s not a debate thread, just an image-macro chain. If there’s tension at all, it’s aesthetic: some posters find the AI-generated Funassyi image charmless (“what’s the point of posting something so boring”), while others keep escalating with sparkling-water cat pics and Nekomata Okayu (a Hololive VTuber) references, treating the whole thing as a running bit rather than content worth critiquing.

    What outside readers likely miss is that giving a cat sparkling water isn’t a real recommended practice — it’s an internet joke/prank format, not veterinary advice, and the “feels so good” reactions are about the comedic visual of the cat’s surprise, not an endorsement of actually doing this to a pet.

    *This article excerpts and summarizes the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “『Tentako Watch』 Take care of me now, nora aaaa.ᐟ.ᐟ✨(・o・🍬)🏰.”