Why Hello! Project’s Sunday night shows aren’t selling out like they used to: ‘Because you can’t get home’

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The story

On a 5ch thread where Hello! Project concertgoers gather, discussion turned to why tickets for Sunday night shows aren’t selling out the way they used to. Many pointed to a growing number of fans avoiding overnight stays because it would interfere with work the next day, along with earlier last trains on the Shinkansen and rising hotel and transportation costs for those traveling to shows. Others noted that stricter identity checks aimed at curbing ticket scalping have broken the old strategy of cheaply securing both a matinee and evening ticket as a set, revealing a structural shift that can’t simply be chalked up to fans “falling out of love” with the group.

What people said

1AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:42
Is there something going on?
Have more wimpy fans started only doing the Sunday matinee?
7AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:47
Because you can't get home.
28AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:55
Re: #7
Exactly this.
Even if you head home first thing the next morning, you won't make it to work in time.
36AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:58
Re: #28
Wasn't that true both now and back then, though?
19AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:51
I'd guess about 30% of fans are already retired.
No money, no stamina.
27AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:54
Re: #19
Guys who used to make over 10 million yen a year have retired and now only go to shows near home.
25AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:53
I don't want to get home after 10pm when I've got work the next day.
31AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:56
Re: #25
Then just don't come to shows anymore.
35AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:58
Are there no Hello! Project fans out in the regional areas?
37AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:59
Re: #35
Getting from one regional area back to another is even less realistic.
42AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:00
Re: #36
The last Shinkansen heading to regional areas has gotten earlier on every line.
74AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:17
Re: #42
The Tokaido Shinkansen added Shinagawa and Kyoto departures/arrivals to comply with the midnight cutoff rule, but…
43AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:01
Back when scalping was unregulated, you could grab a terrible seat for like 2,000 yen, so people just went to both shows anyway — it's not like everyone actually wanted to do a matinee-and-evening double header.
58AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:08
Re: #43
That's part of it too, honestly. These days people apply for a ticket just in case, and only take paid leave the next day if the seat turns out to be really good. If it's a bad seat, they just let it go to waste.
68AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:12
Well, the schedule is basically set so the members themselves can get back to Tokyo.
71AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:14
Re: #68
They get to leave before we do, so they've got it easy lol
73AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:16
A thread for actual concertgoers is rare — I thought the "Wolf" board (5ch's idol fan board) was a den of couch fans who never go to shows.
77AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:19
Re: #73
There's a thread for people who go solo, isn't there?
81AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:22
If you're traveling out for a show, the cost per show is way too high unless you catch both the matinee and evening.
84AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:23
Re: #81
By that logic, the matinee shows shouldn't be selling out either, right?
89AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:24
Wait, so it's the regional evening shows that aren't selling out? In the Tokyo area you can't even get a ticket for Juice=Juice.
92AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:26
Re: #89
Well, that's because there are fewer shows available there, so more effort goes toward regional shows instead.
90AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:25
So for "Panda's" (member nickname) triumphant homecoming shows, spring and fall alike, they could only book Sapporo's Hitaru arena on a Sunday? Even after the night show ends, there's no getting home.
96AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:27
Re: #90
For Hokkaido, just stay the night, come on.
107AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:33
For places like Yokohama Arena, just make sure the show ends by 8pm — they're only doing one show anyway.
109AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:35
Re: #107
If it starts too early, invited guests and industry people can't make it.
108AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:35
Planned service suspensions (preemptive train shutdowns during bad weather) have become common, which makes traveling to shows risky. Never mind transportation costs — hotel price hikes are brutal. And rising ticket prices are quietly rough too.
112AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:36
Re: #108
What kind of hotel are you booking? If it's a business hotel, you can cancel the day before, can't you?
111AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:35
Hello! Project used to force its way through regional tours, but it was really just the same fans from the Tokyo area traveling out to see them. Now those fans are shifting into retirement, or the Ice Age generation (Japan's "lost generation" that struggled to find stable jobs) has become the core demographic, so they can't push themselves like before. Female fans especially only show up for shows close to home or at Budokan.
114AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:37
Re: #111
And even that's only true for places that actually have a Shinkansen station.
121AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:41
If the night show started at like 4pm, you could probably get home just fine even after traveling out.
123AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:42
Re: #121
Then the matinee would have to start too early and people couldn't make it. A 5pm start is just about right.
122AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:41
You'd normally book a hotel to hold before you even find out if you won the ticket lottery, right?
124AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:43
Re: #122
For a 1,500-capacity regional venue you can reach by Shinkansen, there's no need to do that. I've never booked ahead of time for one of those.

Background and Key Points

Several institutional and social shifts have combined to make Sunday night shows harder to sell out. The Ticket Resale Prohibition Act, which came into full effect in 2019, tightened identity verification and made it much harder to cheaply pick up leftover tickets and attend both a matinee and an evening show back to back, as fans used to do. In addition, Shinkansen last trains have increasingly been moved to earlier times in recent years to allow time for track maintenance work, narrowing the range of destinations fans can day-trip to and from. Hotel prices have also risen due to inbound tourism demand and inflation, raising the barrier to traveling for shows in general.

Within the thread, opinions were split between those who see this as a matter of fan demographics aging and retiring, straining stamina and finances, and those who see it as a problem with how organizers schedule the start and end times of shows. Both are likely contributing factors — the reality is probably a combination of several causes rather than something explainable by just one.

※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Why Sunday night shows are far less full than they used to be.”

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