Category: Idols

  • Tsubaki Factory Fan Parking Nuisance: Odyssey Opens Lot Early — 5ch: “Butthurt Otaku, LOL”

    Odyssey, the company that runs Hello! Project’s concerts, announced it would open the parking lot ahead of the scheduled time after a string of complaints that Tsubaki Factory fans were illegally parking at nearby facilities. On 5ch, opinions clashed: some questioned the organizers (“If the instructions were unclear, they should’ve just opened it from the morning”), while others fired back at the fans (“Don’t get defensive when you’re the one who showed up early and parked illegally”). The thread eventually spiraled into comparisons of fan etiquette across other Hello! Project groups.

    Odyssey

    @ODYSTAFF

    [Notice]

    Source: x.com / Original post here

    6AnonymousAug 27, 2026 11:58
    Guess Juice=Juice's Kōhaku spot is gone too (NHK's New Year's Eve singing contest)
    17AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:06
    Re: #6
    This is the part that really stings
    8AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:01
    Tsubaki otaku getting defensive in the comments, incredible lol
    32AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:17
    Re: #8
    You can tell from how few followers they've got
    13AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:04
    They probably won't get to use this venue again next year
    15AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:05
    Those old Shōwa-generation geezers' bad manners never improve, not till the day they die (a jab at older fans)
    18AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:07
    They should've figured people would park illegally and just opened it from the morning
    39AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:20
    Re: #18
    Re: #28
    Nice tantrum, nuisance otaku (lol)
    20AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:07
    They should've just opened the field early
    21AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:08
    It's precisely because Tsubaki takes on all this trouble that the other groups stay peaceful
    24AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:11
    Re: #21
    That's exactly the reason they can't disband Tsubaki
    23AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:11
    Tsubaki's and Rosy Chronicle's fans have zero manners, honestly
    33AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:18
    Re: #23
    You mean Tsubaki and OCHA NORMA ("Ocha")
    Rosy Chronicle barely even has fans to begin with
    74AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:38
    Re: #23
    A lot of them are fans of both groups anyway
    27AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:14
    Arrests
    Heatstroke deaths
    Groping incidents
    30AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:15
    Tsubaki Factory Summer Festival 2026 ~Scorching Heat~ | Kawaguchiko Stellar Theater & Kawaguchiko Round Hall
    https://stellartheater.jp/kouen/11119/
    34AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:18
    For them to get called out publicly like this, it must've been pretty bad
    Sounds like they weren't handling it this way until last year
    36AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:19
    I heard Tsubaki fans had great manners…
    37AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:19
    It's not even a real parking lot, just a school yard
    They can't exactly open that up first thing in the morning
    47AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:24
    @ The smoking area 🚬 is set up somewhere it absolutely shouldn't be (right next to the merch line) — Odyssey is seriously done as an event organizer.

    The guy getting defensive is mad about other stuff too
    53AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:29
    Re: #47
    Is that really the reverse case though?
    60AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:31
    Re: #47
    Instead of posting on X that they're "done as an organizer," couldn't they just say "could you move the smoking area away from the merch stand"?
    48AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:24
    Ignoring the rules just because the instructions were unclear — are Tsubaki fans all middle schoolers or something?
    50AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:27
    Is there even a point in showing up that early in the morning?
    51AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:28
    A low-key, unpopular group with a mysteriously badly-behaved fanbase
    54AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:29
    They probably just want to be close or grab a good spot
    57AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:30
    Re: #53
    I think it's that the guy who got defensive is also mad about other things — the post itself isn't necessarily the "getting defensive" one
    58AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:31
    For a one-day weekday event out in Yamanashi,
    Tsubaki's cranking out merch like it's a Budokan show

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQjV9Raa4AAAm6a.jpg
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQjV9Rda0AAJWmu.jpg
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQjWPhza0AAtJjE.jpg

    https://imgur.com/Ss1fLrN.jpeg
    62AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:32
    Re: #58
    Meanwhile Juice=Juice had nothing but leftover MORE T-shirts and unsold Pia merch even at a huge festival
    66AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:33
    Looks like stuff like the hand towels sold out almost instantly by midday
    https://imgur.com/viSrUt7.jpeg
    71AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:36
    Re: #66
    Guess you'd better get there early then
    That's on the organizers for not bringing enough stock and not predicting fans would show up early
    67AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:34
    Re: #60
    Instead of complaining here, go reply and tell them directly lol
    70AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:36
    Re: #67
    Oh hey, it's Dewa-san 😁 (apparently a nickname for a regular poster)
    75AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:38
    The random blind-box collectibles are selling out instantly too
    https://imgur.com/NwrfiwD.jpeg
    79AnonymousAug 27, 2026 12:44
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQsK55AbAAAM3Wp.jpg

    Background and Key Points

    Hello! Project is Up-Front’s idol-group umbrella (Morning Musume, Juice=Juice, Tsubaki Factory, OCHA NORMA, Rosy Chronicle among others), and Odyssey is the affiliated company that runs its concerts and event logistics. Tsubaki Factory’s “Summer Festival 2026” was staged at the Kawaguchiko Stellar Theater/Round Hall in Yamanashi, near Mt. Fuji — a regional venue, not a Tokyo arena, and the “parking lot” in question appears to be a repurposed school yard rather than a purpose-built lot. That mismatch between a small local venue and a fanbase willing to queue for hours is the root of the incident: fans parked illegally at neighboring facilities to stake out early spots for merch and entry, prompting complaints from those facilities and forcing Odyssey to post a public notice on X moving up the lot’s opening time — an unusual, faintly embarrassing step for an organizer to take publicly.

    The thread’s actual fault line wasn’t fans-versus-organizers so much as it looked; posters agreed the parking was a problem, but split over blame — whether Odyssey’s vague instructions invited the rule-breaking, or whether fans who arrived hours early and parked illegally had no standing to complain afterward. That argument then drifted into a separate, longer-running dispute about which H!P subgroup’s fanbase behaves worst, with Tsubaki and OCHA NORMA singled out.

    What outside readers will likely miss: this reflects on the fandom, not the idols themselves, and the “Kōhaku” jab (NHK’s New Year’s Eve broadcast) is fan shorthand for reputational stakes — a public scandal like this can hurt a group’s odds of an invite. The merch tangent (sold-out towels, blind boxes) also isn’t a random detour; it explains why fans felt pressure to arrive absurdly early in the first place.

    *This article was compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Odyssey: ‘Numerous cases of Tsubaki Factory fans illegally parking at nearby facilities have been confirmed, so we are opening the parking lot now, ahead of the scheduled time’”.

  • Hello! Project Song of the Year 2026: Frontrunners Split Opinion — 5ch Says It’s ‘Kurakura vs. Wacha’

    Opinions split on a 5ch thread over the frontrunners for the Hello! Project Song of the Year 2026 award, with several titles thrown into the ring. Juice=Juice’s “Kurakura☆Climax,” Tsubaki Factory’s new song “Ai=Un+En+On” (lit. “Love = Luck + Bond + Gratitude”), “Dantotsu,” and “Wacha” all came up as contenders, with posters citing YouTube view counts and the growth of live-performance clips as evidence for their predictions. Some comments also brought up how the bloc-voting system works and pointed to past winning songs.

    1AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:03
    [Breaking] Tsubaki Factory's new song "Ai=Un+En+On" is genuinely great! It might just become the group's answer to Juice=Juice
    15 Anonymous 2026/08/27 (Thu) 07:16:39.80 0
    This year's Hello! Project Song of the Year lineup is stacked
    2AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:16
    No way it's Kurakura.
    3AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:18
    It's gotta be Wacha.
    4AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:22
    Tsubaki's lineup is just too weak this year.
    5AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:23
    Climax is the only real contender here — everything else is way too much of a dud song.
    39AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:21
    Re: #5
    Ku-ra-ku-raaa
    Cliiiimaaax

    So cheesy.
    6AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:25
    Just kidding — it's actually Ninmin Friends.
    7AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:26
    It's Dantotsu or Wacha.
    8AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:26
    Juice fans (Juice=Juice otaku) were trashing Kurakura as a crap song for the longest time,
    but it's really not that great a song either.
    In that sense, Dantotsu might deserve the top prize.
    Though it'll probably win by vote count anyway.
    9AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:28
    The fact that nobody's calling out the blank "A" slot says it all.
    10AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:28
    Kura or Mizari.
    11AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:30
    Probably Wacha~
    That one's just fun.
    12AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:30
    Dantotsu, hands down (get it — "dantotsu" literally means "by far"), 'cause Mikumiku looked so cool.
    13AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:30
    Don't know it well, but wasn't "Celebrate Celebrate" from this year? Or was it last year?
    77AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:38
    Re: #13
    That's from last year's album.
    14AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:31
    So Juice=Juice's just excluding every song after "Moremi," huh.
    15AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:33
    Depends on BEYOOOOONDS' B-side track.
    17AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:40
    Dantotsu didn't break out as much as people expected,
    so it'll probably come down to a battle between Kurakura and Ai=Un+En+On.
    18AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:43
    Looks like it's shaping up to be a head-to-head between Kurakura and Wacha.
    19AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:46
    Kurakura☆Climax
    Ai=Un+En+On
    Liar Liner
    Ninmin Friends

    That's my shortlist so far.
    20AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:53
    Dantotsu's got the golden combo — Aoi, who Hello! otaku love, paired with Shunsuke Suzuki.
    That's the strongest contender for the award.
    21AnonymousAug 27, 2026 09:57
    Re: #20
    That combo's song "A Woman's Charm" only ranked 5th though — what's so "golden" about it?
    22AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:00
    To the general public it's Kurakura✩Climax,
    but among Hello! otaku, opinions are split.
    40AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:22
    Re: #22
    What "general public" are you even talking about.
    23AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:01
    They're still doing a Song of the Year award even though literally nobody wants it, lol.
    27AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:09
    Re: #23
    It's just gonna feed Izuhara's ego for nothing.
    26AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:08
    In the very first year, 2002, an album track by Tanpopo took first place.
    28AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:09
    Let's just merge it into one big "Dekabo" category and cut out the pointless fighting.
    29AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:13
    It's gotta be Kurakura, Burabare, or Amaenna — settled.
    30AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:13
    Ba-ba-ba-niraaa!!!! lmaooooo
    32AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:17
    I like Dantotsu, but I think it'll end up being Kurakura.
    33AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:18
    If it's Wacha, I'd say "High Tension" is actually the better-made track.
    Though honestly, neither one's really all that special anyway.
    37AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:20
    No music video, no shot at first place.
    38AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:21
    Re: #37
    The Hello! Project YouTube video that grew the most this year is the Kurakura☆Climax live clip.
    42AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:27
    Re: #37
    Kurakura Live: 3.24M
    Burabare Live: 2.5M
    Amaenna Live: 2.25M
    43AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:27
    Now that streaming's unlocked and Spotify numbers are visible to everyone, there's something charming about the Song of the Year still being decided by a small group of otaku brute-forcing it with bloc voting — like real "public opinion."
    44AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:30
    But Spotify's only like 40% of the total anyway.
    46AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:31
    It used to be Morning Musume。's bloc vote against everyone else, but starting this year Juice=Juice's bloc vote joins in too.
    51AnonymousAug 27, 2026 10:33
    More like a changing of the guard than "joining," really —
    Morning Musume。's been weak for a while now.

    Background and Key Points

    Hello! Project is the idol umbrella agency behind Morning Musume。, Juice=Juice, Tsubaki Factory, BEYOOOOONDS and several other girl groups, and its fan-run “Song of the Year” (ハロプロ楽曲大賞) has been held since 2002 — the first edition famously went to an album track by spinoff unit Tanpopo rather than a hit single, a detail one poster raised to show the award has never simply tracked sales. The winner isn’t chosen by critics or the music industry; it’s decided by devoted fan voting, and posters note the process has long been shaped by “bloc voting” (組織票), where a group’s fanbase organizes to push turnout — historically Morning Musume。’s base dominated, but commenters say Juice=Juice’s fans are now mobilizing at the same scale, effectively a changing of the guard.

    The thread doesn’t converge on a single favorite. Kurakura☆Climax (Juice=Juice) and Wacha are treated as the closest head-to-head, with Tsubaki Factory’s new “Ai=Un+En+On” and Morning Musume。’s “Dantotsu” cited as dark horses; no clear consensus emerges, and several posters call the front-runners merely adequate rather than genuinely strong songs.

    Readers should be careful not to mistake this for an official industry prize like the Japan Record Award — it’s an internal fan-community vote, which is exactly why YouTube view counts and bloc-voting tactics matter so much to the debate. Also worth flagging: one poster notes Spotify streaming data, despite now being publicly visible, only factors into roughly 40% of the outcome, meaning the rest of the vote remains opaque and driven by fan mobilization rather than raw listening numbers.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “[Great News] Hello! Project Song of the Year 2026 Is Shaping Up to Be Seriously Strong lolololololololololololololololololololol.”

  • Who’s the Cutest in Hello! Project? OGs and Current Members Can’t Agree

    A thread titled “Who’s the cutest person in Hello! Project?” went up on 5ch’s Hello! Project board, with posters piling in to nominate OG (graduated) members like Ai Takahashi, Reina Tanaka, and Momoko Tsugunaga.

    Current members got some love too, with names like Rio Kitagawa and Marii Makino coming up, and comments like “OGs really do have more cute ones” fueling a heated OGs-vs-current-lineup debate.

    1AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:05
    OGs count too
    3AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:08
    Ayumi Shibata (Melon Kinenbi)
    4AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:08
    Probably Haru-san
    5AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:08
    It's Ise Rerapi for me
    For OGs, Manakan
    6AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:09
    No joke, it's Ai Takahashi
    7AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:09
    Ayane Sato-chan
    9AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:10
    I'll go with Suzu Hashisako-chan!
    15AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:11
    "Chiikawa" Haru-san (as cute as the character)
    17AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:11
    A slim, busty 23-year-old who looks like she could be in Hello! Project
    https://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv351258609
    18AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:12
    If we're talking cutest idol overall, it's Reina Tanaka
    19AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:12
    For current members, all-around it's Shimakawa
    Including OGs, it's Reina
    20AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:12
    Yuka Miyazaki (Juice=Juice's first leader)
    21AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:12
    Gotta be "Ressā" (nickname, like 'red panda')
    23AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:13
    Yuka Maeda (S/mileage)
    25AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:14
    https://imgur.com/6ZmEfos.jpg
    26AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:14
    Just going by face, Chii
    30AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:16
    Come on, it's obviously Momoko Tsugunaga
    32AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:17
    Aika Mitsui: "People who don't notice my charm are just dense"
    33AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:17
    SHIORI YAGI!!
    35AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:17
    Moe Kamikokuryo
    36AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:18
    Gotta be Shimakura Rikachun
    37AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:19
    Marii Makino-chan
    38AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:20
    Akane Haga-chin!
    39AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:20
    Right now it'd be Kirara
    41AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:24
    Oi, what about my girl Maopin?
    45AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:30
    Yeah, OGs really do have more cute ones
    46AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:31
    Gotta be Rio Kitagawa
    49AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:39
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0QPDzmaYAEpZmi.jpg
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0QIg44asAEbxvO.jpg
    68AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:59
    Re: #49
    Nice, she's got a lot of hair, love it
    50AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:40
    This is Ichika Arisawa-chan
    54AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:42
    All-time, just going by looks, probably Shiba-chan
    55AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:43
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4z7hQ1UUAE5G_S.jpg:orig#.jpg
    56AnonymousAug 26, 2026 20:45
    Re: #55
    Reina Tanaka's visuals are insane

    Background and Key Points

    Background: Hello! Project is Tsunku’s idol agency umbrella founded in 1998, home to Morning Musume and its sister groups (Angerme, Juice=Juice, Tsubaki Factory, BEYOOOOONDS, and others). Nearly three decades in, it has an unusually deep alumnae bench — “OG” members who graduated (idol-speak for leaving a group, not quitting in disgrace) but remain fixtures in fan culture through reunions, solo work, and nostalgia content. Ai Takahashi and Reina Tanaka are former Morning Musume leaders/centers from the late 2000s “Platinum Era,” Momoko Tsugunaga anchored Berryz Kobo-adjacent group S/mileage, and Yuka Miyazaki and Yuka Maeda represent the Juice=Juice/S/mileage lineages — all acts that peaked commercially before many current members had debuted. Current-lineup names like Rio Kitagawa, Marii Makino, and Kirara belong to the present-day Morning Musume ’26 and junior groups.

    The thread’s actual fault line isn’t idol vs. idol but era vs. era: multiple posters explicitly frame it as OGs versus current members (“OGs really do have more cute ones”), with nominations splitting cleanly along that generational line rather than by group or unit.

    What outside readers will likely misread: “graduated” doesn’t mean disgraced or retired from entertainment — most OGs mentioned here stay publicly active, which is exactly why they can still win a cuteness poll decades later. Readers may also assume this is a ranking thread with real stakes, but it’s just informal nomination-dropping — no votes, criteria, or tally decide a winner, so “cutest” here reflects personal nostalgia and current fan-engagement biases (recency, screenshot circulation) more than any consensus metric.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Who’s the cutest person in Hello! Project?”.

  • Juice=Juice’s ‘Ebamifu’ Appear on NHK’s Utacon — Fans Say It’s ‘Proof the Group Made It’

    Juice=Juice’s ‘Ebamifu’ duo appearing on NHK’s music program “Utacon” became a hot topic on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. The dominant view in the thread was that, unlike the individual-based popularity seen with Sakamichi groups (Nogizaka46 and similar), this appearance was only possible because the group itself has become widely known. At the same time, posters also brought up the age skew of the fanbase and differences in audience demographics compared to other groups.

    1AnonymousAug 26, 2026 10:31
    That's the same pattern as when Sakamichi members get individual TV appearances
    2AnonymousAug 26, 2026 10:32
    What's 'Ebamifu'?
    4AnonymousAug 26, 2026 10:39
    The modern-day W (the Hello! Project duo 'double-u')
    5AnonymousAug 26, 2026 10:39
    At the end of the day, it all comes down to having a hit song or not.
    Kamiko, Wanfour, and late-period ℃-ute (other Hello! Project acts/units) all lacked that too.
    That's why nobody remembers them.
    7AnonymousAug 26, 2026 10:39
    Guess the name Juice=Juice has really gotten some recognition
    43AnonymousAug 26, 2026 11:04
    But it's not like the two of them actually released a song together, so it's probably a Pink Lady cover or something
    For the grandpa-grandma crowd it'd be The Peanuts
    45AnonymousAug 26, 2026 11:08
    Re: #43
    Next week's the '80s special
    Showa era doesn't just mean the '80s, you know
    46AnonymousAug 26, 2026 11:09
    Re: #43
    It's a Wink cover
    44AnonymousAug 26, 2026 11:07
    Re: #1
    Except Sakamichi members lip-sync, so they can't appear solo on music shows
    47AnonymousAug 26, 2026 11:09
    Are they gonna sing 'Futari no Ai-Land' or something?
    48AnonymousAug 26, 2026 11:09
    Ebamifu singing 'Koi no Vacance' on the last Utacon must've gotten high marks from the staff
    49AnonymousAug 26, 2026 11:10
    Wink's getting milked too hard at this point
    50AnonymousAug 26, 2026 11:11
    Then it's gotta be WINK
    51AnonymousAug 26, 2026 11:11
    Mifu-chan's got a bit of that Showa-era idol vibe going on
    Depending on the song I feel like it'd suit her perfectly
    52AnonymousAug 26, 2026 11:12
    Showa kayō is the thing Rika-sama wanted to do
    53AnonymousAug 26, 2026 11:16
    That's some cognitive distortion lol
    54AnonymousAug 26, 2026 11:18
    This thread really made it clear how many old guys are in the Juice fanbase
    55AnonymousAug 26, 2026 11:19
    Re: #54
    Exactly
    Morning Musume and ANGERME's venues are packed with young women only
    The contrast with Juice, which is full of old guys, is obvious
    56AnonymousAug 26, 2026 11:24
    Are Goto's fans really this salty even in a thread like this?
    58AnonymousAug 26, 2026 11:28
    That's too much exposure
    More bandwagon fans showing up
    The worst part is not being able to get birthday-event tickets anymore
    59AnonymousAug 26, 2026 11:31
    If I get to see Ebamifu do a Wink number, I can die happy
    60AnonymousAug 26, 2026 11:31
    Juice=Juice, where everyone except Irie is off doing selection-unit or solo work
    61AnonymousAug 26, 2026 11:36
    They just want to pretend they've made it…
    65AnonymousAug 26, 2026 11:37
    More like they haven't really 'made it' — the buzz has cooled off, so they're desperately trying to sell them now
    84AnonymousAug 26, 2026 11:40
    Right now they're coasting on the trust they built up in the industry back when they were putting up numbers and breaking out
    97AnonymousAug 26, 2026 11:49
    It's probably gonna be one of these songs
    102AnonymousAug 26, 2026 12:00
    In that sense, ANGERME, who've never really broken out, are pretty impressive
    103AnonymousAug 26, 2026 12:01
    The tracks are being laid for a Kohaku appearance (NHK's New Year's Eve music special)

    Background and Key Points

    Juice=Juice (“Ebamifu” pairs Kanon Fukuda and Miyu Takeuchi, whose duo name blends their surnames) is one of several idol groups under Hello! Project, the management umbrella behind Morning Musume and dozens of sister units going back to the late 1990s. Sakamichi groups like Nogizaka46 operate on an “individual popularity” model — members regularly land solo TV or drama work, and because their live performances are lip-synced, a member can appear on a music show alone without the rest of the group. Hello! Project acts, by contrast, sing live, so members generally can’t be booked separately from their group or sub-unit; a duo like Ebamifu getting NHK’s “Utacon” (a mainstream, general-audience music program, not a niche idol showcase) signals that Juice=Juice as a whole has broken into wider public awareness, not that the two members became individually famous. Posters also treated this as a possible lead-in to a Kohaku Uta Gassen appearance — NHK’s prestigious New Year’s Eve broadcast that is treated as a marker of having “made it” in Japanese entertainment.

    The thread’s real disagreement wasn’t about the TV slot itself but about what it means: some read it as proof the group has genuinely broken out, while others (citing burnout of past H!P units like Kamiko, Wanfour, and ℃-ute, none of whom had a defining hit) argued Juice=Juice is coasting on old industry goodwill rather than current momentum, with the “haven’t really made it” camp pointing to a supposed cooling of buzz.

    What outside readers likely miss is the fanbase-composition angle raised mid-thread: posters noted Juice=Juice’s audience skews older and male compared to Morning Musume or ANGERME, whose venues reportedly draw mostly young women — a demographic split that shapes how “success” gets judged inside H!P fandom but goes unexplained for anyone unfamiliar with the group’s reputation.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Ebamifu appearing on NHK’s Utacon isn’t like Kamiko being individually popular — it’s only possible because the group itself made it.”

  • Tsubaki Factory’s “Adrenaline Dame” MV Hits 5 Million Views — 5ch: “Guess I Never Realized How Good Nishizaki’s Singing Is”

    The music video for Tsubaki Factory’s “Adrenaline Dame” has surpassed 5 million views on YouTube, making it the fourth Reiwa-era-debut Hello! Project group to hit that mark, following Morning Musume。’25, Juice=Juice, and BEYOOOOONDS. The thread lit up with praise for the group’s dancing and vocal performances, while also buzzing with comparisons to the view count of sister group ANGERME.

    1AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:36
    Tsubaki Factory "Adrenaline Dame" Promotion Edit
    tps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjEFHk_6nWA
    This is the Promotion Edit for "Adrenaline Dame," from Tsubaki Factory's new single "Adrenaline Dame / Yowasa Janai yo, Koi wa / Idol Tenshoku Ondo," released June 29, 2022.
    5AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:43
    So that makes it third among songs from 2022 onward?
    13AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:47
    Re: #5
    Nope, that's wrong.
    If we're just going by MV views, it's actually the second-highest, right behind the 'flattering' one (fan slang for a video where the members look especially good).
    11AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:44
    I still can't forget that thing with Kamiko and Tako, and the three from Ocha Norma, at Hina Fest or whichever event it was
    It was ridiculously good.
    12AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:45
    Hold on, isn't 'Oinaisa' Ise's song?
    15AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:48
    Re: #12
    140,000 views.
    It's been over a month already, so it won't grow any more.
    16AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:49
    Re: #14
    https://youtu.be/YDhrAdkYhes?si=7iu1HESDEhawjj0-

    This one, right?
    Really makes you feel what a waste it was with Ishiguri.
    22AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:52
    Re: #16
    This, exactly this.
    Made me realize just how good Nishizaki is at singing.
    48AnonymousAug 26, 2026 09:03
    Re: #16
    This one really shows off Kamiko's happy-go-lucky side.
    17AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:49
    Crapgerme is so pathetically weak lmaooooooooooooo (a mocking mashup of "crap" + ANGERME)
    18AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:49
    Turns out it's true that ANGERME's songs are mostly garbage.
    19AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:50
    Tsubaki without Kiki-chan now is basically a different group.
    23AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:52
    Right now a ton of ANGERME's fanbase has drained off to other groups, so there's nothing driving growth.
    As long as they keep performing songs like 'Oinaisa,' ANGERME's turn isn't coming anytime soon.
    27AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:54
    Who even cares about ANGERME, honestly.
    30AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:55
    Re: #27
    If ANGERME breaks up, they might form a new group out of the trainees, so people will keep talking about it until they actually disband.
    33AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:56
    I'm all for ANGERME disbanding.
    Unpopular groups should just be dissolved.
    36AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:57
    Chiori lives on in the Adrena MV (´;ω;`)
    Chiori, Chiori, Chiori (´༎ຶོρ༎ຶོ`)
    37AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:58
    'Kuyashii wa' dropped four months after Adrena and just rode its coattails for views.
    38AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:58
    Even with the 'offshore company' (fans' nickname for their management pushing them hard) shoving ANGERME so aggressively, they still can't get popular — might as well just disband.
    39AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:58
    https://youtu.be/txAP_SJRLj8?si=SviPL45hEEg0J4eV

    "YOFUURUNO! YOFUURUNO!" (rendered in that garbled half-width katakana) just isn't quite it, you know?
    54AnonymousAug 26, 2026 09:29
    Re: #48
    As a Tsubaki fan who's watched Adrenaline more than anyone, I gotta say Kamiko's way of holding her notes and not overdoing the attitude is on another level.
    62AnonymousAug 26, 2026 09:49
    Re: #14
    63AnonymousAug 26, 2026 09:52


    Background and Key Points

    Hello! Project is the umbrella idol organization behind Morning Musume。and its many sister acts; Tsubaki Factory is one of the newer units, promoted from trainee status in 2017 and now nine members deep into a discography built largely on YouTube exposure rather than physical single sales, which is why hitting a specific view-count threshold functions as a bragging right within the fandom. The “Reiwa era” framing (Reiwa began May 2019) matters because it separates newer-generation material from the catalog of decades-old Heisei-era hits that dominate H!P’s all-time view rankings — being one of only four videos from this newer stretch to clear 5 million is being read as a marker of the group’s current momentum rather than nostalgia-driven traffic.

    The thread doesn’t really argue over the milestone itself; where it splits is in what the achievement gets used to prove. One thread of posts treats it as a moment to reassess individual performers — several posters singling out Nishizaki’s vocals and Kamiko’s restraint as underrated — while a much larger share pivots immediately into using the number as a stick to beat sister group ANGERME with, citing “Oinaisa” ‘s roughly 140,000 views as proof of decline.

    What’s easy to miss is that the ANGERME comparison is lopsided: “Oinaisa” is a much newer release than “Adrenaline Dame,” which has had over three years to accumulate views, so raw totals aren’t really measuring the same thing. The thread also name-checks departed members (Kiki, Chiori) without explaining that Tsubaki’s current lineup reflects several graduations since 2022 — context a non-fan reader would need to make sense of those asides.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “[Breaking] Tsubaki Factory’s “Adrenaline Dame” MV Hits 5 Million Views! That Makes 4 Groups — Morning Musume, Juice=Juice, Tsubaki, and BEYOOOOONDS — With a Reiwa-Era MV at 5 Million.”

  • Fans Debate Whether the Juice=Juice Fandom Is Really ‘Peaceful’ After Viral X Post

    A tweet posted on X (formerly Twitter) claiming that “Juice=Juice fans all compliment each other’s oshi (favorite members), making the fandom peaceful” became a hot topic on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. In the thread, some agreed, saying “makes sense given the mutual-support culture,” while others pushed back with “they’re at each other’s throats over bus tours” and “there was infighting in the past too,” sparking a debate over whether the fandom is really so peaceful.

    Kokonoka. ’26

    @coconoca__9

    With everyone singing this well, you’d expect fights over “my oshi is the best,” but Juice has this vibe of “my oshi is amazing, but yours is amazing too” — I love it, it’s almost too peaceful 🍹

    Source: x.com / Original post here

    2AnonymousAug 26, 2026 06:43
    Watching people lose it over bus tours, I really can't call this peaceful.
    3AnonymousAug 26, 2026 06:43
    Not sure if this is an EBiDAN thing or an =LOVE ('Iqoulove') thing.
    4AnonymousAug 26, 2026 06:43
    They can afford to be chill because they're already certain their oshi is the best.
    5AnonymousAug 26, 2026 06:45
    Guess you're a newbie who doesn't know about Hello! Project's "secret account" (urawiki) culture.
    20AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:09
    Re: #5
    If you don't have to know, ignorance is bliss.
    63AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:28
    Re: #5
    Most of the complaint accounts these days are ANGERME fans anyway
    leftovers from the "Rikamiko" era.
    7AnonymousAug 26, 2026 06:46
    Wait, seriously? There are groups where fans of the same group fight each other??
    10AnonymousAug 26, 2026 06:55
    Re: #1
    Thinking everyone's that good based on just that is peace-addled naivety.
    11AnonymousAug 26, 2026 06:57
    They're all good, but you can quickly tell who's better.
    12AnonymousAug 26, 2026 06:58
    Re: #11
    They're not even that good lol
    13AnonymousAug 26, 2026 06:59
    Dambara's fans can afford to praise the younger members precisely because their oshi's position is untouchable.
    14AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:01
    I've been a Hello! Project fan for over 10 years, so I can tell this guy knows exactly what he's saying.
    He's just jumping on the winning horse to take a dig.
    He used to be a Kamei/Kamikokuryo/Ikuta fan anyway.
    16AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:03
    > He used to be a Kamei/Kamikokuryo/Ikuta fan anyway

    Ah, that explains it.
    17AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:04
    23AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:14
    This peace only exists after the old blood-soaked "Nacchi vs. Goma" fan wars.
    Everyone learned that trashing each other within the same group has zero upside.

    I really wish ANGERME fans would learn that same lesson — "trashing each other within Hello! Project has zero upside."
    24AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:15
    Re: #12
    There's always someone like you no matter where you go,
    so there's no such thing as "peaceful" lol
    26AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:22
    Irie's getting showered with praise in the comments on the "Kurakura" recording video though.
    27AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:24
    Kind of like how Shimoitani gets showered with praise in the comments on ANGERME's dance-practice (danpura) videos?
    29AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:28
    Someone clue them in about "koko" (a nod to the tweeter's handle, Kokonoka).
    34AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:44
    Re: #29
    No doubt they already know.
    31AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:40
    Come to think of it, there's never been infighting among Juice=Juice fans, even back in the original-lineup era.
    Unlike other groups, every member of Juice was pointed in the same direction.
    Maybe it's because they were a rare group where every single member was serious and hardworking.
    32AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:43
    Re: #31
    Why are you acting like Takagi never existed?
    Miyamoto was looking in a different direction too, which is why she went solo early.
    36AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:49
    Re: #32
    Takagi got criticized for having a bad attitude at handshake events, sure,
    but I don't remember fans fighting each other over it.
    Her singing was highly rated by fans, and she was respected as an indispensable member of Juice.
    39AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:52
    Re: #36
    "Come to think of it, there's never been infighting among Juice=Juice fans, even back in the original-lineup era. Unlike other groups, every member of Juice was pointed in the same direction. Maybe it's because they were a rare group where every single member was serious and hardworking."
    ↑
    That's what this was about — what are you even talking about?
    38AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:51
    No group has a mutual-support network (gojokai) as functional as Juice's.
    Even back in the original-lineup days, it was standard for fans to attend every single member's birthday event.
    40AnonymousAug 26, 2026 07:54
    Re: #38
    But diva Takagi's show at Landmark Hall wasn't even full.
    If every Juice fan really went to everyone's events, you'd think at least Landmark would fill up, right?
    Don't rewrite history.
    44AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:02
    That's because the "server-battle" oshi-activity fans have been flowing into Juice.
    They're the crowd that used to constantly fight with other members' fans, so of course it feels peaceful now.
    47AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:07
    Re: #44
    Apparently there's a fandom that's been fighting internally ever since the group formed
    the so-called "hell fandom," lol
    48AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:10
    People who use Juice's name to trash other fandoms and other groups like this obviously aren't peaceful.
    Are you doing this on purpose?
    54AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:17
    Re: #48
    This is all just =LOVE fans anyway.
    49AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:11
    Re: #40
    Nobody said everyone went, though.
    Why are you so worked up about this?
    I don't remember if Landmark was completely full, but it had a decent crowd.
    But you wouldn't know that, since you never actually saw the events in person.
    57AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:19
    Re: #49
    So my point is, don't cherry-pick the one little part you happen to know and write it like it applies to every Juice fan.
    Morning Musume fans and ANGERME fans go to birthday events for members other than their own oshi too.
    62AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:26
    Re: #57
    Hard to take that from someone who's never seen the events in person.
    It's a fact that the mutual-support network functions better in Juice than in other groups.
    Morning Musume. plays surprisingly small venues for how popular they are, and ANGERME is beyond hopeless at this point.
    65AnonymousAug 26, 2026 08:32
    Re: #62
    There's the Juice fan showing their true colors lol

    Background and Key Points

    Juice=Juice is a Hello! Project (H!P) idol group under UP-FRONT, launched in 2013 and built around unusually strong vocalists. Like other H!P units (Morning Musume, ANGERME, =LOVE), it operates inside a broader fan culture where “oshi” (a fan’s favorite member) is a semi-official identity, and where “gojokai” — informal mutual-support networks in which fans of one member also turn out for every other member’s birthday events, handshake lines, and solo shows — are treated as a real measure of a fandom’s health. H!P also has a long history of factional fan hostility; posters invoke the early-2000s “Nacchi vs. Goma” rivalry (between fans of Morning Musume members Nakazawa Yuko and Goto Maki), a notoriously bitter feud that set the baseline against which any group’s fandom gets called “peaceful” today. “Urawiki” refers to anonymous secondary accounts H!P fans keep for venting or sniping, separate from their public fan persona — a structural feature of the fandom, not a fringe quirk.

    The thread doesn’t actually split on whether Juice=Juice fans praise each other online; that’s granted. It splits on whether that online courtesy reflects genuine peace or just a fandom with no urawiki-driven “server battle” history yet, papering over real friction — bus-tour disputes, uneven turnout at member events like Takagi Sayuki’s under-filled Landmark Hall show, and past departures such as Miyamoto Karin’s — versus one poster’s cynical read that the whole tweet is a backhanded dig from a fan of other, now-faded members.

    What outsiders likely miss: “peaceful” is only meaningful relative to H!P’s unusually combative fan history, not as an absolute claim, and several posters even use “peaceful Juice” as a weapon to insult ANGERME and =LOVE fans — undercutting the premise in the act of defending it.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “X: ‘I love that Juice=Juice’s fandom has this vibe of my oshi is amazing, but yours is amazing too — it’s almost too peaceful’.”

  • New Single Stalls at #372 on Amazon — 5ch Thread: ‘Reasons We Want Nijigasaki to End’

    On 5ch’s Love Live! board, a thread titled “Reasons We Want Nijigasaki to End” filled up with complaints about live show pacing, fan manners, and sluggish CD sales.

    The fact that AZUNA’s new single only reached #372 on Amazon’s chart on release day also became a talking point, with many voicing concern that the series is losing momentum.

    1AnonymousAug 25, 2026 15:11
    Previous thread
    Reasons Nijigasaki Won't End
    8AnonymousAug 25, 2026 15:15
    Because there are people who skip out even on Love Live Fes.
    9AnonymousAug 25, 2026 15:16
    Because there are people posting YouTube videos that hype up Nijigasaki while bashing the other sub-series.
    10AnonymousAug 25, 2026 15:17
    Because there are people spamming slander at other series' cast members on X (Twitter).
    11AnonymousAug 25, 2026 15:18
    Because they drove Kerorira to delete her account and step down.
    12AnonymousAug 25, 2026 15:20
    Because 'Ai-san' whined 'I just can't accept this~' and got the tournament restarted.
    13AnonymousAug 25, 2026 15:20
    Because a fan got arrested for a knockout robbery (drugging/mugging victims).
    14AnonymousAug 25, 2026 15:20
    Because even though the story is set in Odaiba, they never hold live shows around there anymore.
    16AnonymousAug 25, 2026 15:23
    Because they take a 30-minute break after singing just one song at the start of the live.
    17AnonymousAug 25, 2026 15:23
    Because the diehard fanatics dogpiled on anyone who complained about the setlist.
    21AnonymousAug 25, 2026 15:25
    Because the slander directed at the SIF (School Idol Festival) writers was awful too.
    22AnonymousAug 25, 2026 15:26
    Because it's cringe watching the voice actors ogle figures' underwear on a livestream.
    25AnonymousAug 25, 2026 15:29
    End of template.
    Feel free to use the rest of this thread for complaints or bashing about Niji-shin (Nijigasaki fanatics) or Nijigasaki itself.
    27AnonymousAug 25, 2026 15:31
    Oh right, AZUNA's new single drops tomorrow.
    No serial code bonus attached as usual, so it's basically confirmed to sell under 10,000 again.
    29AnonymousAug 25, 2026 15:35
    Checked the Amazon ranking and it's losing even to Ren's CD that isn't out until October — is that okay? Today's the early-purchase day, right?
    30AnonymousAug 25, 2026 15:37
    Everyone was so hyped about the unit's new song dropping, but nobody's actually buying the CD.
    32AnonymousAug 25, 2026 15:42
    Listened to what sounded like a radio drama on the Nijigasaki radio show —
    I can tell they're trying to emulate Tomori's style, but it still comes off flat, like 'Shokupanman' (a plain, bland bread-head character).
    34AnonymousAug 25, 2026 15:45
    Tomori really was great after all.
    They should never have let her leave Nijigasaki.
    Everyone's been miserable since she quit.
    63AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:43
    Niji-shin used to brag nonstop about how strong Nijigasaki's songs were,
    but lately none of the new songs stand out at all.
    65AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:58
    Re: #63
    Honestly, the songs were always weak.
    μ's and Aqours both had Hata Aki writing for them the whole way through,
    so Love Live! fans were already calling the music weak long before this.
    72AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:15
    The sports festival segment is terrible
    https://fate.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/lovelive/1787632066/

    If this is the quality of the junior members, no wonder they can't wrap the series up.
    73AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:18
    Re: #72
    Even watching it over and over, it's just awful.
    Feel sorry for the Superstar!! fans (星信) who have nothing left to do but praise this…
    80AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:30
    Nijigasaki only sang one song at the start of the show, then took a 30-minute break,
    but Liella! did about 15 songs in roughly an hour during their live segment — genuinely moved me.
    82AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:34
    Re: #80
    Impressive that you can be 'moved' by a show you didn't even watch.
    84AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:40
    Instead of blindly hyping up Nijigasaki, shouldn't Niji-shin be saying 'take a page from Liella!'s book' by now?
    A 30-minute break right after the opening song is rough, no way around it.
    85AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:48
    Re: #84
    86AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:50
    Re: #85
    This guy's even better than me at pissing off Niji-shin.

    Background and Key Points

    Since the AZUNA CD/#372 ranking data isn’t rich, I’ll ground the closer in Nijigasaki’s institutional background and pinpoint the actual fault line in the thread.

    Nijigasaki High School Idol Club occupies a specific and slightly awkward slot in the Love Live! franchise: unlike μ’s and Aqours, it launched without a set 9-member cast and rotated focus characters, and it later formalized the “AZUNA” sub-unit (Asaka, Kasumi, Ai) as one of several smaller vocal groupings rather than a single unified idol group. Amazon’s daily music ranking is a real-time sales proxy, not a chart of record like Oricon, so a same-day position of #372 signals weak first-day pre-order momentum specifically, not final sales — and posters note the absence of a bundled serial code (commonly used in Japan to incentivize multi-copy purchases for lottery or event tickets) as the likely cause, since serial-code-less releases in this franchise have reliably undersold 10,000 copies before.

    The thread doesn’t actually agree that Nijigasaki is collapsing — it splits between posters blaming structural issues (thin live setlists, a 30-minute mid-show break, weak songwriting inherited from a pattern they say goes back to Hatsune Aki-era μ’s/Aqours compositions) and posters just venting about fandom toxicity (harassment of staff/other franchises, the Kerorira account-deletion incident, an arrest unrelated to the group’s output). Those are two different complaints — content quality versus fan-community behavior — collapsed into one “reasons to end it” thread, which is why replies talk past each other.

    What’s likely to be missed: Amazon JP daily rankings are extremely volatile and don’t capture CD shop or event-venue sales, which remain significant channels for idol-anime music in Japan, so #372 alone doesn’t confirm the “under 10,000” prediction posters are making.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Love Live!) thread “Reasons We Want Nijigasaki to End”.

  • AKB48’s “Suki-ish” Tops 2026 Female Idol CD Sales, Beating FRUITS ZIPPER and the Sakamichi Groups

    AKB48’s new single “Suki-ish” topping first-week female idol CD sales for 2026 — beating out FRUITS ZIPPER and Sakamichi groups like Nogizaka46 and Hinatazaka46 — has become a hot topic on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. The thread mixed pointed remarks about the sales tactics behind the numbers, like handshake-event marketing and bulk-buying, with predictions of a Sakamichi comeback and speculation about a Kohaku Uta Gassen appearance.

    1AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:48
    Amazeballs! ("goisu" — slangy backwards way of saying sugoi)
    4AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:49
    What about JJ, who's on a huge breakout run?
    10AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:50
    Re: #4
    Company motto: "We don't put out plastic trash"
    5AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:49
    It's only August and they're already #1 for 2026? Come on.
    7AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:50
    This is the only group still doing handshake events.
    13AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:51
    Re: #7
    They've always done handshake events, but they never sold this well before.
    15AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:52
    Re: #13
    They're not doing the COVID thing anymore though.
    11AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:50
    They'll probably get blown out of the water by Sakamichi singles in September, October, November, and December anyway.
    Yeah, I know.
    14AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:51
    Re: #11
    Nogizaka added more bonus perks and still dropped.
    12AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:51
    So basically CD sales numbers don't mean anything.
    16AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:52
    Ain't none of our business here on Wolf (nickname for the Hello! Project fan board).
    17AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:52
    These days AKB has like 8 or 9 members selling out their individual handshake events.
    18AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:52
    They added more members and are cranking out release events nonstop — really leveraging having such a huge lineup.
    19AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:53
    Kinda feel bad for the old guys bulk-buying CDs by the boxload.
    20AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:53
    Morning Musume, Toki Sen, and Kyanchu are all dropping releases the same day, so once Hinatazaka fans go all out, they'll probably end up #1 for the year.
    23AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:53
    Don't know! Don't know, don't know! This is the Hello! Project board!
    Don't know AKB, don't know Nogizaka, don't know FRUITS ZIPPER, don't know =LOVE, don't know Stardust idols, don't know K-pop, don't know don't know!
    25AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:54
    Congrats, good for you! Now please never start another AKB thread on Wolf again, kay bye.
    26AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:54
    Even with handshake events, Hello!-trash (derogatory nickname for Hello! Project fans/groups) only moves like 150,000 copies, right?
    34AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:56
    Re: #26
    Juice=Juice these days should be able to hit 300,000.
    27AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:55
    Come to think of it, did they stop doing the General Election?
    Bringing that back would sell even more, wouldn't it?
    30AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:55
    Re: #27
    They still do it at live shows.
    28AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:55
    Handshakes disappear because of COVID
    They start doing handshakes with gloves
    Then they start doing bare-hand handshakes again
    29AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:55
    From here on, the members have a hellish schedule of meet-and-greets waiting for them.
    32AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:55
    Itomomo is genuinely being deified as the savior who revived AKB.
    33AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:56
    I don't think they could pull off the General Election these days
    That whole system was way too much like a hostess club, even by their standards
    35AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:56
    The burden on the members is brutal
    I don't think Hello! Project members ("Haro-men") could handle it lol
    37AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:57
    In terms of time commitment, isn't Sakamichi's "Meet & Greet" thing longer anyway?
    39AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:57
    If Hello! Project ever did handshake events, someone mentally fragile like Goto would probably break down.
    40AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:57
    Sakamichi groups need to lift the handshake-event ban soon or they're in trouble
    Though the members are probably the ones refusing lol
    41AnonymousAug 25, 2026 23:57
    So Nogizaka's stronghold has finally fallen
    Times are changing
    52AnonymousAug 26, 2026 00:01
    These days all of AKB's top core members are putting real energy and passion into their activities, so honestly it's just fun to be a fan right now.
    57AnonymousAug 26, 2026 00:03
    Re: #52
    But they still couldn't fill Yoyogi (arena), right?
    Even with all that promotion lol
    60AnonymousAug 26, 2026 00:04
    Chiba's got a great figure and she's gorgeous too though.
    64AnonymousAug 26, 2026 00:06
    Re: #60
    She's basically a cyborg.
    63AnonymousAug 26, 2026 00:06
    This could get them into Kohaku this year too
    "Suki-ish" is the most popular song right now after =LOVE's
    72AnonymousAug 26, 2026 00:28
    Re: #63
    LOL
    Well, words have power ("kotodama"), so if you keep saying it, maybe it'll come true someday.
    74AnonymousAug 26, 2026 00:30
    "Suki-ish" views have completely flatlined lol
    It was pulling like 500k views a day
    Huh, that's weird~ wwww????
    75AnonymousAug 26, 2026 00:32
    Re: #74
    Do you check it every day?

    Background and Key Points

    AKB48’s handshake-event model dates back to the early 2010s, when the group’s Senbatsu General Election (“sousenkyo”) let fans buy multiple CDs to cast votes for their favorite members and reshuffle the lineup — a system credited with turning CD sales into a fan-driven arms race. That election was quietly discontinued, and the thread notes it now survives only as a live-show gimmick, not a sales driver. What’s replaced it is a member roster so large that AKB can run handshake events for eight or nine individual members simultaneously, spreading the fan-buying load across many mini-fandoms rather than one center. Sakamichi groups (Nogizaka46, Hinatazaka46, Sakurazaka46) built their identity partly by refusing handshake events, relying instead on “online meet & greet” sessions and bonus-content bundling — a distinction posters raise directly when noting Nogizaka added more bonus perks yet still lost ground.

    The thread’s actual disagreement isn’t whether “Suki-ish” is a good song — nobody discusses the music — but whether first-week sales figures mean anything at all. Several posters argue the numbers just reflect handshake-driven bulk-buying by older male fans rather than genuine popularity, while others point out AKB’s expanded roster and event cadence as a legitimate structural advantage, and still others expect Sakamichi to reclaim the top spot once their autumn/winter singles drop.

    What outside readers likely miss: raw CD sales in Japan have long been decoupled from streaming or chart popularity elsewhere, since bundled tickets and lottery/bonus content make repeat purchases by a small dedicated base the primary driver — a dynamic YouTube-view numbers (mentioned as flatlining) don’t capture at all. The Kohaku Uta Gassen speculation is also just banter; sales rank alone has never guaranteed a Kohaku invitation, which depends on NHK’s own selection criteria.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “AKB48’s “Suki-ish” Beats FRUITS ZIPPER and the Sakamichi Groups to Take the 2026 First-Week Female Idol CD Sales Crown!!“.

  • Kudo Yume’s Birthday Shows Sell Out Both Setagaya Egret Hall Performances — 5ch: “Juice=Juice’s Popularity Is Off the Charts”

    Hello! Project group Juice=Juice’s “Kudo Yume Birthday Event 2026” has sold out both the matinee and evening performances at Setagaya Egret Hall, and the fan club has announced there will be no second-round ticket applications. On 5ch’s Hello! Project thread, posters expressed surprise one after another — “Tako-chan’s (Kudo Yume’s nickname) popularity suddenly shot up” and “the venue’s popularity is even higher than when Ishiyama sold out Yurakucho Asahi Hall” — especially notable since the matinee show had noticeably empty seats last time. There are also anxious voices about the introduction of face-recognition e-tickets, with worries that upcoming Budokan and Pia Arena shows may see a rush of ticket-lottery losses too.

    12AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:06
    Venue popularity is even higher now than when Ishiyama sold out the evening show at Yurakucho Asahi Hall. Juice=Juice's popularity is just absurd.
    18AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:22
    And last year the matinee show was practically empty…
    19AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:23
    Guess new fans are finally catching on to Tako-chan's charm.
    20AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:25
    Nah, these aren't new fans — it's DDs (fans who follow multiple idols/groups at once) flooding in.
    61AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:49
    Re: #20
    Yeah, that's probably it.
    22AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:28
    Tako-chan's cute, a great singer, and has a great personality — she's the best.
    23AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:28
    Hard to find a venue much bigger than Setagaya around here.
    26AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:33
    No second round has to mean they miscalculated the capacity.
    28AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:36
    Guess the "Hyoremi" effect kicked in.
    30AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:37
    Re: #28
    Hey, still waiting on that apology?
    29AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:37
    The last Monday in September is an easy day to take off work, too.
    31AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:38
    Kudo topped the Harocolle (Hello! Project collection) poll and still lost the lottery for both shows — it's blowing up on X (Twitter) lol
    32AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:38
    Tako-chan suddenly blew up huge.
    33AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:38
    Thought Kudo's shows were a nightmare to get tickets for, but turns out it's a full-on lottery-loss festival. Next up is probably Irie.
    34AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:39
    This time of year, both she and her fans are usually swamped. This year, though, so many people lost the lottery that fans ended up with time on their hands.
    35AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:39
    She's clearly top-tier popularity within Hello! Project at this point.
    36AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:39
    Wait, is this an e-ticket?
    38AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:40
    Re: #36
    > Note: Entry to this performance will be via e-ticket using facial recognition.
    37AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:40
    I always applied in the second round every year — guess there's none this time.
    40AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:41
    At this rate, Budokan and Pia Arena will probably be a lottery-loss festival too, even with e-tickets.
    51AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:46
    If Kudo alone can fill both Setagaya shows, then for Kawashima even a 1,500-capacity venue probably wouldn't be enough.
    78AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:51
    Re: #51
    A lottery-loss festival would be rough. There are weekday events and tour dates too — I wonder if fans even have any paid leave left.
    82AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:51
    Re: #51
    Tickets went unsold last time, so I doubt they'll bump the capacity up much. A lottery-loss festival is guaranteed.
    52AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:46
    Is this the Aarii effect? Maybe Aarii's going to show up.
    59AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:49
    Wow, incredible. Guess this is what it looks like when something actually sells.
    69AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:50
    It's kind of scary how it feels like even Arisawa or Irie might be able to draw a bigger crowd than Kawanishi at this rate.
    74AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:50
    Guess going forward, anything smaller than Zepp-class venues just won't cut it.
    85AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:51
    You can really tell Juice=Juice is blowing up huge among Hello! Project fans in general — the people coming aren't just Tako-chan's own fans. Now I'm getting nervous about my oshi's birthday event.
    88AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:52
    Anti-fan trolls ("ankasu") do nothing but boomerang their own insults back at themselves lol
    89AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:52
    They can fill a 1,200-capacity venue in Ise, so why is ANGERME doing so miserably?
    112AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:54
    Of course new fans go straight for Juice=Juice, and even among longtime Hello! Project fans they're the most popular group — they're the only group where you're guaranteed a quality live show.
    122AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:55
    Re: #112
    That's a bit much. They're just bandwagon fans.
    131AnonymousAug 25, 2026 17:59
    Wait, is Moara's show using facial recognition too?
    139AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:02
    Re: #131
    > Note: Entry to this performance will be via e-ticket using facial recognition.
    145AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:02
    Re: #139
    Ah I see, so it's the same as before.
    152AnonymousAug 25, 2026 18:02
    Re: #139
    So it does have facial recognition after all.

    Background and Key Points

    Kudo Yume is a member of Juice=Juice, one of the flagship groups under Hello! Project (H!P), the idol umbrella label run by Up-Front Works that also oversees Morning Musume and ANGERME. In H!P, each member gets an annual solo “birthday event,” typically staged at small-to-mid-size halls; tickets for these are usually distributed via fan-club lottery, with a second-round application opening if the first round doesn’t fill the venue. Setagaya Egret Hall is a modest public theater in Tokyo, and Kudo’s matinee show there last year reportedly had visible empty seats. This year, by contrast, both the matinee and evening shows sold out outright, prompting the fan club to skip the second-round application entirely — a sign that demand from the first-round lottery alone exceeded capacity.

    The thread’s disagreement centers on why the sudden jump happened. One camp reads it as Kudo herself breaking out — new fans discovering “Tako-chan’s” charm — while others (posts 20, 61, 122) push back, attributing the sellout to “DDs” (fans who float across multiple idols/groups rather than dedicated Kudo fans) and general bandwagon interest in Juice=Juice as a group, not a personal surge for Kudo. That distinction matters in idol fandom, where a member’s perceived individual drawing power affects her standing for future singles, centers, and larger solo shows.

    What outside readers will likely miss is the significance of the facial-recognition e-ticket system mentioned almost in passing. This technology has been rolling out across H!P concert tickets specifically to curb scalping and duplicate-account lottery entries, which historically inflated apparent demand; posters’ anxiety about upcoming Budokan and Pia Arena shows reflects real uncertainty about whether authenticated, one-fan-one-ticket sales will produce even fiercer shortages, or if it will simply reveal true demand more accurately for the first time.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “[Both Setagaya Egret Hall Shows Sold Out] Notice: No Second-Round FC Applications for “Juice=Juice Kudo Yume Birthday Event 2026”.”

  • Kudo Yua Birthday Event Lottery Results Announced — Wave of “Part 1 Win, Part 2 Loss” Reports

    Juice=Juice member Yua Kudo’s 2026 birthday event (venue: Setagaya Egret Hall) draw results have been rolling in one after another, with a lot of winners reporting a split outcome — “Part 1: win, Part 2: loss.”

    The thread also spun off into worries about her packed schedule, the burden of her traditional handmade origami gifts, and comparisons to how Ruru Danbara’s venue was booked.

    Juice=Juice Yua Kudo Birthday Event 2026

    ●Performer: Yua Kudo (Juice=Juice)

    ●Venue: Setagaya Egret Hall (Tokyo)

    Source: upfc.jp / Original article here

    5AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:03
    Sounds like a ton of people are losing the night-show draw
    6AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:04
    Part 1: WIN
    Part 2: LOSS
    7AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:04
    Good thing they kept it at Arakawa Ward Civic Hall's Main Hall, that worked out nicely
    8AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:06
    If it's your oshi's birthday event, it feels kind of hollow unless you catch both parts, right?
    9AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:07
    Safest move is to apply for the easier-to-win Part 1 through the lottery and grab the tougher Part 2 with points
    10AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:09
    Won both parts

    11AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:10
    I'm just a regular FC member — wonder if I can win both Part 1 and Part 2 for Risachi's (nickname for another member) birthday event again this year
    12AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:10
    Losing the draw even with a venue that huge is wild
    13AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:11
    Won
    Won
    Wait, people are actually losing the night show?
    14AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:11
    Lately it's been like 4 birthday events in a row where I win the day show but lose the night show
    Kind of makes me lose the will to even go to the day show anymore
    15AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:14
    There were people who lost Part 1 too
    That's a rare pattern
    16AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:14
    There were losses even on points, but the point seats lately haven't been great anyway
    17AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:18
    So I guess they're not expanding the point-seat allocation even as more people apply
    18AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:22
    Hope it all goes off without a hitch
    20AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:25
    Re: #18
    Going by Re: #2, the current schedule is still better than last year's
    22AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:31
    Re: #20
    That's a brutal schedule
    19AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:23
    Only won Part 2
    First time for me, so I'm looking forward to it
    21AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:26
    Winning like crazy over here, lol
    Tako-chan (a nickname), I feel bad for you
    23AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:36
    ◎ ✕
    The hall that's practically in Hosaka-san's backyard
    Missed out on the night show — guess a lot of people applied
    24AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:40
    Last year she had the tour, release events, solo meet-and-greets, Juice=Juice group day events, AND her birthday event all crammed together — nine straight days of work, and she was clearly overdoing it. Compared to that hellish year, this schedule is relatively better.
    28AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:45
    There's probably schedule stuff we can't even see yet too
    30AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:47
    Re: #28
    These days Juice=Juice seems to have photoshoots or other work basically every day, even when there's no event
    29AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:45
    And somewhere in between all that, she's still gotta make origami for everyone?
    31AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:50
    Let's just let her off the hook on the origami already
    Someone needs to tell her firmly
    32AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:50
    One wrong step and that tips right into OCD territory
    33AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:53
    People are losing both parts of Kudo Yua's draw even at Setagaya Egret Hall, so locking Danbara Ruru into KT Zepp Yokohama was nothing but a bad call
    34AnonymousAug 25, 2026 12:53
    Last year it wasn't origami, it was a teru teru bozu (weather-charm doll) craft kit
    Though if she'd been in better shape, I bet she'd have hand-made one for everyone instead of just handing out kits
    35AnonymousAug 25, 2026 13:02
    If you can't keep it up consistently, better not to start it at all
    36AnonymousAug 25, 2026 13:06
    Guess they never planned for her getting popular and busy — it's Hello! Project after all
    37AnonymousAug 25, 2026 13:09
    933 times 2 is 1,866…
    Divide that by 11 people and each one gets…
    Nah, never mind
    38AnonymousAug 25, 2026 13:10
    Why divide by 11?
    39AnonymousAug 25, 2026 13:10
    Eba (nickname for another member) sold out the day show too
    40AnonymousAug 25, 2026 13:11
    There are Part 1 losses too
    56AnonymousAug 25, 2026 13:13
    Seriously?
    Sold out in the first round?
    Even those Kudo antis that have been popping up lately are gonna have nothing to say after this
    60AnonymousAug 25, 2026 13:14
    👓 Right~? If everyone folds together it'll go fast, won't it~

    Background and Key Points

    Hello! Project birthday events are solo concerts UP-FRONT stages for each idol on or near her birthday, distinct from Juice=Juice’s regular group shows: the member performs largely alone, with a talk segment, and traditionally hands a small handmade gift — often origami — to every fan who gets in. Tickets are split between a lottery (抽選) open to fan-club members and a separate “points” system, where points accumulated through past attendance and purchases let members buy their way into shows that are hard to win outright; the two channels are treated as complementary strategies rather than one guaranteeing the other. Setagaya Egret Hall is a mid-sized Tokyo public hall, not a dedicated idol venue, and venue capacity for these events varies member to member depending on how UP-FRONT books them.

    The thread’s actual disagreement wasn’t about whether the event would sell out — it clearly has — but about the specific and unusual pattern of losing the night show (Part 2) while winning the day show (Part 1), and a smaller number of posters even losing Part 1, normally the safer draw. That asymmetry, plus the observation that points-based seats “haven’t been great lately,” is what drove the comparison to Danbara Ruru’s larger KT Zepp Yokohama booking as a mismatched venue decision.

    What outsiders likely miss is that the origami-gift custom is unpaid, physical labor stacked on top of an idol’s existing tour, release, and meet-and-greet schedule — several posters are worried less about tickets than about whether Kudo can sustain handmaking gifts for hundreds of winners across two shows on top of an already packed year.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “[12:00] Juice=Juice Yua Kudo Birthday Event 2026 Draw Results Report Thread [Setagaya Egret Hall].”