On 5ch’s Hardware/Industry (Geha) board, a thread was started by a self-proclaimed “die-hard Xbox hater” asking for controller recommendations to use with Steam. With the one rule being “anything but an official Xbox controller,” posters put forward several candidates — HORI pads, the DualSense, the Vader, and the original Xbox 360 controller among them — each with its own strengths and weaknesses. Durability sparked the most disagreement: some argued the DualSense is prone to stick drift, while others countered that Xbox controllers use the same potentiometer-based sticks and will eventually suffer the same fate. The thread also touched on wired-connection lag and how hard it is to get hold of the wireless receiver.
Can't use that filth
Your fingers will rot
What's the input lag like on this one?
Then again, nobody's using a base-model Xbox pad without even back buttons, right?
With PlayStation controllers, Steam automatically maps the Share button to Select, so you have to fix that for every single game — it's a pain.
Also, the Vader's stick-tension adjustment feature is just unnecessary.
The grip feel in your hand, the stability of the analog sticks, how the D-pad and buttons feel to press — you really notice how much thought went into every little detail.
And its biggest strength is durability.
It's used in tanks and submarines, after all.
I've heard it can go 30+ years without a single issue — basically tough enough to last a lifetime.
Personally I'm not a big fan of the D-pad
Xbox pads, Joy-Cons, and Pro Controllers are all potentiometer-based, so they'll all drift eventually.
The DualSense's durability is defective-level bad, though.
Actually, I think that thing genuinely is defective.
Xbox controllers run on AA batteries, so there's demand from people who don't like built-in batteries.
Then again, I've never heard of a controller battery exploding.
Seriously, fix that garbage laggy Bluetooth spec already.
Don't they sell the receiver separately?
I tried wired too, but the cable's way too long. Wish they'd sell a ~1m version.
The triggers are too stiff and the D-pad is unusably bad, so it's not for everyone
This.
The triggers on Xbox controllers are way too stiff. The fanboys defend it for some reason, but when you ask 'Name one other controller with triggers this stiff — didn't the One controller make them softer?' they go quiet.
So you're saying the current Xbox controller has softer triggers and is the best, then?
I use Razer's Raiju V3 Pro — that's like 3x the price of the beitong Pangu, isn't it lol
For eroge (adult games), though…
Does that actually get restocked?
Bought one on a whim with my Rewards points but it's still sitting unopened.
Both the official store and Rakuten are sold out right now, but they restocked back in May this year so I grabbed another one. The price had gone up about 1.5x though.
Guess it does get restocked sometimes — thanks for the info
In the lawsuit over PS5 DualSense wear-related degradation, its lifespan was calculated at 417 hours (rewrite article)
https://gamecolumn.jp/blog-entry-78125.html
Lol, exposed as garbage right there in the court filings
Sony's gonna go bankrupt at this rate lol
If anything, PC gamers are the ones who should go wired — the tower's sitting right there next to you
Because even a rehashed thread like this tends to rack up replies
Probably racks up views on aggregator ("matome") sites, I'd guess
Background and Key Points
The comments about DualSense durability draw on the overseas report cited in post #88; analog-stick wear over time (so-called “stick drift”) is an issue that has repeatedly come up in recent years with the PS5 and Nintendo Switch as well. That said, Xbox controllers also use potentiometer-type sticks — the same underlying mechanism — so claims that “Xbox controllers never break” should be read as individual, anecdotal experience shaped by usage frequency and unit-to-unit variation, not as a general rule. As for wireless lag, Bluetooth and the Xbox controller’s proprietary 2.4GHz receiver are different technologies with different susceptibility to interference from things like microwaves, which is why the claim in the thread that “the 2.4GHz band interferes with microwaves” drew pushback. It’s also worth noting that, as of this writing, official Xbox wireless receivers have remained unstable in stock as a standalone purchase, making accessory availability another factor in people’s choices.
※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry, aka “Geha”) thread “I’m a die-hard Xbox hater, recommend me a good Steam controller — anything but an Xbox pad.”
