5ch Reacts Against Yahoo Article Claiming ‘Nintendo Struggling, Sony Riding the Wave’

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The story

A Yahoo News article published on October 13 claimed that “the tide has turned in the game industry — Nintendo is struggling while Sony’s PlayStation is riding the wave well.” In response, 5ch’s hardware/industry board (Geha) saw a wave of pushback, with posts like “Beating up Nintendo over its stock price while praising Sony on earnings is comparing apples to oranges” and “As long as they’re losing on sales in the earnings report, comparing on performance won’t change the outcome.” The discussion developed further into a debate over the structural difference between Nintendo, whose high ratio of first-party titles ties its results directly to game hits, and Sony, whose platform-style revenue model leans heavily on third parties — with many replies questioning the article’s basic premise.

Stock Drops After New ‘Kirby’ Title Announcement — the IP-Nurturing Dilemma Plaguing Nintendo

10/13 (Tue) 7:10 AM

Japan’s flagship game company, Nintendo, is facing a turning point.

Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

What people said

2AnonymousOct 13, 2026 12:03
Not even Tane, not even Kawamura — that's an absurd depth of talent
3AnonymousOct 13, 2026 12:05
>Even without a first-party hit title
It's already common knowledge that they're the weakest first party out there now lol
5AnonymousOct 13, 2026 12:05
So basically Wolverine's the best, huh?
6AnonymousOct 13, 2026 12:06
Why do people slam Nintendo over stock price but praise Sony over earnings?
8AnonymousOct 13, 2026 12:07
"Riding the wave," huh?
Has there been a single successful title since Concord? (Sony's infamous 2024 flop)
10AnonymousOct 13, 2026 12:07
As long as they're losing on sales in the earnings report, comparing on performance isn't going to change the outcome, is it?
11AnonymousOct 13, 2026 12:10
They're not in debt, so there's no obligation to prop up the stock price.
Remember when Sakurai was still working on Kid Icarus: Uprising and they announced a new Smash Bros — that was right when Nintendo had fallen into the red. They don't announce never-before-seen titles unless they're pushed that hard.
13AnonymousOct 13, 2026 12:11
They're definitely riding the "we want to be like Steam!" bandwagon though
15AnonymousOct 13, 2026 12:15
Why is it "stock price!" for Nintendo but "earnings!" for Sony?
17AnonymousOct 13, 2026 12:15
There's a mismatch going on.
If it were a 30,000-yen console, fine, but for a 60,000-yen console, all they've got is games that make you go "this can't be it."
19AnonymousOct 13, 2026 12:18
Pundits (識者) really hate Nintendo, huh
Maybe I should become a conductor (指揮者) too
Aim for Karajan (wordplay: "shikisha"/pundit vs "shikisha"/conductor)
124AnonymousOct 13, 2026 14:31
Re: #19
You're no Karajan — you haven't got the "gara" (stature/build) for it (pun: Karajan contains the word "gara")
23AnonymousOct 13, 2026 12:21
Didn't know that, but that's not a new character at all
28AnonymousOct 13, 2026 12:27
Satoshi Fuwa (the article's byline)

https://shueisha.online/articles/-/250884?disp=paging&page=4
>Meanwhile, "Genshin Impact" is built to remove player-vs-player competition and cater to casual players. It's low difficulty and character-driven, backed by a lavish voice cast. Ironically, it became a worldwide hit precisely by stripping the heavily monetized gacha elements out of the gacha-game formula.

Genshin Impact has no gacha elements?!
34AnonymousOct 13, 2026 12:40
Re: #28
Can't you read? It says "heavily monetized" [gacha elements], not "gacha" itself
42AnonymousOct 13, 2026 12:58
I get that Nintendo's in trouble, but "Sony's doing great" is hilarious
51AnonymousOct 13, 2026 13:32
Stop writing articles about stuff everybody already knows except console-war fanboys (ゲハ豚) and clueless echo-chamber dimwits
53AnonymousOct 13, 2026 13:34
Re: #51
You're the one steeped deepest in an echo chamber here
61AnonymousOct 13, 2026 13:39
Comparing a console in its pioneering phase to one in its mature phase doesn't really hold up.
If the point is "we should smooth out these cycles," fine, but if it's just a snapshot comparison, the article's worthless.
64AnonymousOct 13, 2026 13:40
Re: #61
If we're talking about the "Kusotchi" (derisive nickname for Switch 2, from "kuso"=crap + Switch), it already flopped in that so-called "pioneering phase" lol
63AnonymousOct 13, 2026 13:40
I'd say Sony's actually in a pretty dangerous spot — their own first-party output has gotten weak, leaving them with third parties by the balls
73AnonymousOct 13, 2026 13:50
Re: #63
It's the opposite for a platform business.
Nintendo, with 80% of its lineup being first-party, is the abnormal one here —
that means its platform business isn't working well.
Having to keep landing hits with your own games
is way too rough a position to be in.
Not a great business model.
67AnonymousOct 13, 2026 13:42
This phenomenon where getting steeped in Sony warps people's perception — I genuinely find it impressive
69AnonymousOct 13, 2026 13:43
Re: #67
Nah, that's not it.
The real barrier is just low intelligence.
Even without Sony, they'd be steeped in something else
68AnonymousOct 13, 2026 13:43
Re: #60
If they actually meant to beef up the subscription service, they'd raise the quality of single-player titles and wouldn't need to go out of their way to shut down dev studios.
Though it's still pretty low compared to mobile-game gacha monetization
70AnonymousOct 13, 2026 13:48
Re: #68
No problem, since third parties keep cranking out good games.
As the platform holder, just providing the venue means the money keeps rolling in
79AnonymousOct 13, 2026 14:02
Re: #73
>Nintendo, with 80% first-party share, is the abnormal one

There's no such fact anywhere in Nintendo's actual financial reports to begin with. Don't tell me that after endlessly ranting "Famitsu this" and "domestic-only data that," you're now basing this whole claim on nothing but Famitsu's numbers?
81AnonymousOct 13, 2026 14:04
Re: #79
Then what IS the actual first-party percentage?
You know it, right?
Spit it out already
87AnonymousOct 13, 2026 14:10
It's true the profit structure is shifting toward things like subscriptions and gacha.
Personally, I want Nintendo to keep pushing its current approach though
91AnonymousOct 13, 2026 14:12
Re: #87
If anything, Nintendo's going against the grain, which is exactly what makes it abnormal.
It's weird how they've gotten stricter on gacha games compared to the Switch era
93AnonymousOct 13, 2026 14:16
Re: #91
Calling it "going against the grain" is dumb — Nintendo is the one picking up and growing the player base that Sony/PlayStation abandoned. Sony shrank its own player base, and the result shows up as a losing console at 30-0 (weekly hardware sales tally vs. Switch)
95AnonymousOct 13, 2026 14:17
Re: #93
This guy, I swear
"30-0" lol
122AnonymousOct 13, 2026 14:29
Re: #93
By "going against the grain" I mean specifically stuff like getting stricter on gacha games

Background and Key Points of This Debate

The source article, a Yahoo News piece published October 13, cites Nintendo’s stock drop following the announcement of a new “Kirby” title to argue how tough it is for a company whose results are directly tied to its own IP. In the thread, the main pushback targeted the mismatched comparison — criticizing Nintendo on stock price swings while judging Sony on quarterly earnings. Some pointed out that Nintendo leans heavily on first-party titles, so a new release’s hit-or-miss fate feeds straight into its results, whereas Sony depends more on third parties and runs a revenue model built around “providing the venue.” Which company is really “riding the wave well” hinges on multiple factors — sales scale, first-party ratio, stance on gacha monetization — making it hard to reduce to a simple win-or-lose call. Worth noting: no one in the thread actually posted concrete figures for Nintendo’s first-party ratio, so the exchange mostly ended in a standoff.

*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry [Geha]) thread “Yahoo: ‘The Tide Has Turned in the Game Industry — Nintendo Struggling, Sony’s PS Riding the Wave Well’.”

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