Category: Baseball

  • Chunichi’s Next-Manager Candidates: The ‘Four Heavenly Kings’ Are Set — 5ch Roars ‘YEEEAAAHHH’

    The Chunichi Dragons’ managerial change has become a hot topic, and on 5ch’s “Live News Flash” board, four names have emerged as candidates to take over: Hirokazu Ibata, Takeshi Yamasaki, Akihiro Yano, and Kazuyoshi Tatsunami. Ibata is said to have little enthusiasm for the job given his standing after the WBC and his relationship with the team, while Yamasaki’s candidacy is overshadowed by his son’s fraud case. Yano reportedly once turned down a head-coach offer from Chunichi in the past, prioritizing his status as a Hanshin Tigers alum instead. Tatsunami, meanwhile, has emerged as the frontrunner thanks to strong support from the Tokai business community and fans. The thread agreed on one point: factors other than win-loss record are driving the selection.

    1AnonymousSep 29, 2026 22:44
    Hirokazu Ibata
    Takeshi Yamasaki
    Akihiro Yano
    2AnonymousSep 29, 2026 22:44

    ・Hirokazu Ibata

    He once politely turned down a coaching offer from a great manager
    He's probably the type who doesn't want the short straw of managing a perennial also-ran team
    He may also have soured on managing altogether after the WBC blunder, so surprisingly, he's not looking like a strong bet for the next skipper job
    10AnonymousSep 29, 2026 22:45
    Re: #2
    Calling it a "blunder" is harsh — from the quarterfinals on, it was a boss rush (back-to-back tough opponents) with a .500 record
    It's not like they got knocked out in the group stage
    3AnonymousSep 29, 2026 22:44

    ・Takeshi Yamasaki

    Among current Chunichi alumni, he's the only one who's actually eager to become manager
    But a few months ago his son was arrested for fraud, and it looks like his own family dragged him out of the running for the next manager job
    4AnonymousSep 29, 2026 22:44

    ・Akihiro Yano

    When manager Inoue was putting his staff together, he reportedly tried to bring Yano on as head coach, but it never happened because Yano prioritized his status as a "Hanshin alum" and "former Hanshin manager"
    There's no reason for him to tarnish his résumé managing a perennial also-ran team and snuff out his own shot at one day returning as Hanshin manager
    So it has to be said the odds of him ever becoming Chunichi's manager are vanishingly slim
    5AnonymousSep 29, 2026 22:44

    ・Kazuyoshi Tatsunami

    A Chunichi alum with overwhelming support from the Tokai and Nagoya business community
    Since he became manager, the team's sponsorship revenue has doubled
    On top of his strong draw at the gate, his merchandise — jerseys and everything else — sells extremely well
    From the front office's perspective, he's the man they most want in the manager's chair, and he himself is fired up for a comeback
    It's fair to call him the clear frontrunner for the next Chunichi manager job
    8AnonymousSep 29, 2026 22:45
    Re: #5
    YEEEAAAHHH
    14AnonymousSep 29, 2026 22:48
    Why not Masa Yamamoto?
    He just seems like a good-natured old guy
    He's been doing commentary work, so he seems like he could adapt to modern baseball
    17AnonymousSep 29, 2026 22:51
    Re: #14
    Say it like that and you sound like some kind of insider, huh?
    22AnonymousSep 29, 2026 22:53
    Shigeru Sugishita would do just fine (a legendary pitcher from the 1950s, long since passed away — this is a joke pick)
    27AnonymousSep 29, 2026 22:55
    Re: #22
    At least pick someone who's still alive, like Mr. Gondo
    29AnonymousSep 29, 2026 22:55
    They say Ibata's basically cut ties with Chunichi, so I get the feeling he's a Giants guy now
    Apparently he didn't even contact Araki until they were brought together for some talk-show feature
    31AnonymousSep 29, 2026 22:57
    Re: #29
    But if Ibata wants to manage in this league, at the Giants he's not a homegrown player, so unless he gets a special exception like Hashigami did, he can't get the job
    44AnonymousSep 29, 2026 23:06
    Re: #29
    They can just chalk it up to being Ochiai's fault and call it settled
    32AnonymousSep 29, 2026 22:57
    It's been proven that a manager who can get laughs is the Chunichi Dragons' winning formula
    In that sense, I think Masa Yamamoto has the right stuff
    42AnonymousSep 29, 2026 23:03
    Re: #32
    He'd get so many laughs he'd give the players stomach aches from laughing too hard
    36AnonymousSep 29, 2026 23:01
    Does Chunichi actually look like they can make the A-class (the top three teams)?
    41AnonymousSep 29, 2026 23:02
    Re: #36
    Every year around this time you think 'next year we'll make it,' but it's tough going
    43AnonymousSep 29, 2026 23:04
    Is there no pitcher candidate, like a pitching version of Masa Yamamoto?
    45AnonymousSep 29, 2026 23:07
    Re: #43
    Like the pitcher-version Ochiai, maybe
    51AnonymousSep 29, 2026 23:13
    Considering Manager Yano inherited a last-place team, his in-game strategy was disastrous, but his roster-building skill was seriously impressive
    Guess faith really is powerful (a nod to how fervently devoted the Hanshin fanbase is — 5ch jokingly calls it a 'religion')
    55AnonymousSep 29, 2026 23:15
    Re: #51
    I honestly think it's a good thing the Tigers didn't actually win it all during the Yano era…
    56AnonymousSep 29, 2026 23:17
    Chunichi isn't as bad as the Giants, but they're still pretty insistent on promoting only their own alumni, so maybe it's less about who wants the job and more that there just aren't many who even qualify
    60AnonymousSep 29, 2026 23:19
    Re: #56
    The golden-era players from 20 years ago are around 50 now, so there should actually be a huge traffic jam of guys wanting to manage
    81AnonymousSep 29, 2026 23:37
    Re: #56
    Was there really that much appetite for it with guys like Yoda or Inoue?
    78AnonymousSep 29, 2026 23:34
    It's not a team you could actually rebuild during one tenure, so is there really anyone who genuinely wants the job?
    84AnonymousSep 29, 2026 23:39
    Re: #78
    If you paid someone 100 million yen who just wants the 'former manager' title on their résumé, I think you'd find plenty of takers
    83AnonymousSep 29, 2026 23:38
    Re: #78
    They've actually got decent talent though

    If things go normally, they should finish third next year
    100AnonymousSep 29, 2026 23:47
    Re: #83
    Does this guy actually watch the games?
    Next year even the starting rotation is finally going to be in real trouble
    102AnonymousSep 29, 2026 23:50
    Re: #100
    No guarantee Sano can stay on the field in one piece
    I think Hosokawa's next year is shaky too
    103AnonymousSep 29, 2026 23:52
    Re: #100
    Guess he's fallen for the local Tokai brainwashing
    90AnonymousSep 29, 2026 23:42
    It'd be funny if it were someone like Sun Dong-yol or Gomez
    A normal pick just won't cut it
    92AnonymousSep 29, 2026 23:44
    Re: #90
    Lee Byung-kyu is currently the second-team (farm club) manager for the LG Twins, you know
    95AnonymousSep 29, 2026 23:44
    I just saw this thread on the entertainment/sports board

    [Baseball] Former Giants ace Masumi Kuwata emerges as candidate for next Chunichi manager! Sources say "the team's decision is already set" (Nikkan Gendai) [Niiniiφ★]
    https://hayabusa9.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/mnewsplus/1790682190/
    110AnonymousSep 29, 2026 23:56
    If Masa Yamamoto became manager, the team would probably see a mysterious outbreak of food poisoning
    114AnonymousSep 29, 2026 23:59
    Re: #110
    Masa Yamamoto: "It's on me today! Let's go get yakiniku!!"

    That's basically what would happen
    113AnonymousSep 29, 2026 23:58
    The fact that they actually boo and heckle means losing isn't something they enjoy, right?
    115AnonymousSep 30, 2026 00:03
    Re: #113
    The ones booing are the passionate visiting-team fans who actually want to win
    The ones packing the home stands are the brainwashed, lukewarm fans who don't care about winning or losing
    117AnonymousSep 30, 2026 00:05
    Re: #115
    Then why do they even go? Like visiting a friend's house out of sheer habit?
    122AnonymousSep 30, 2026 00:11
    Re: #117
    It starts from the premise that the Tokai media, dominated by the Chunichi Shimbun newspaper, keeps up its daily 'brainwashing' coverage
    So regardless of on-field results, the team works hard at marketing itself as an experiential attraction
    Combined with today's consumer appetite for 'experiences,' the Dragons end up being an easy default choice

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Chunichi is reportedly moving into earnest search mode for a successor to manager Kazuki Inoue’s regime. It’s worth noting that the “Four Heavenly Kings” label is just a convenient shorthand coined by the 5ch thread itself, not an official team announcement. All four names floated are well-known Chunichi alumni, but their circumstances couldn’t be more different. Ibata’s situation is shaped by his standing as a former Samurai Japan manager; Yano’s by his background as a Hanshin alum and former Hanshin manager; Yamasaki’s by his son’s arrest; and Tatsunami’s by his contribution to team revenue despite a poor on-field record during his tenure — in each case, factors beyond wins and losses are what’s really driving the ranking. The thread’s disagreement centered less on managerial aptitude and more on whether each man would actually want the job and whether it would benefit team finances — the strong push for Tatsunami reflects the front office’s stake in merchandise and ticket sales across the Tokai region. The post nominating Shigeru Sugishita was a joke referencing a deceased figure, not a serious candidate suggestion.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (“Live News Flash” board) thread “[Inoue Steps Down] The Chunichi Dragons’ next-manager candidates — the ‘Four Heavenly Kings’ are set 🐲”.

  • Chunichi Dragons Manager Kazuki Inoue to Step Down, Takes Blame for Back-to-Back Last-Place Finishes

    It has emerged that Chunichi Dragons manager Kazuki Inoue has personally told the club of his intention to resign, taking responsibility for the team’s poor performance. Chunichi finished last in the league for the second year running, and this season again saw them fall as far as 8 games off the pace. On 5ch’s live-discussion board, debate spread over possible successors, with names like coach Eichi and various Chunichi alumni floated one after another. Fans also clashed over how to judge Inoue’s management — some argued that “by the advanced stats, this team should be at .500, not buried in last place,” while others shot back that “a bullpen’s performance doesn’t always show up in the numbers.”

    6AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:05
    They cut the dead-weight contracts, brought in Ward, and set the whole thing up — so who exactly are they putting in as manager?
    23AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:08
    Re: #6
    I think it'll be Eichi.
    He's got the local pipeline — Gifu Prefectural Commercial High to Meijo University, same as a lot of Chunichi guys.
    12AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:06
    They clearly have the talent to be a top-three ("A-class") team, yet they've finished dead last two years running — of course this was coming.
    20AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:08
    Re: #12
    Lol, the die-hard Chunichi apologists are still talking in their sleep.
    25AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:08
    Is there a chance this plays out like it did with 'Mr. Karai' — where they turn around and say 'not you, though' and refuse to let him leave?
    38AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:10
    Re: #25
    Wasn't there that time back in summer when some front-office director showed up on a road trip and everyone thought 'this is it, he's finally getting fired' — but instead there was a tearful press conference about fully backing him to stay on, and it was a total anticlimax?
    Just run that play again.
    46AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:12
    I mean, they've been bottom-tier ("B-class") forever — why haven't they been grooming the next manager through the farm-team job?
    68AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:18
    Re: #46
    That's the downside of making Kataoka the farm-team manager when everyone knew he'd be gone the second Tatsunami left.
    54AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:15
    If you actually go by the stats, they should be sitting around an even .500 record — anything worse than that doesn't add up.
    56AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:16
    If rice prices are coming down, I guess even Tatsu(nami) is fine by me.
    63AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:17
    Re: #56
    Just a reminder that rice was way cheaper back during the 2023 Chunichi 'rice riot' incident.
    59AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:17
    Probably won't happen, but I'd love to see one of the old Pacific League sluggers — guys like Nori Nakamura, Ogasawara, or Wada — take the job. They've all got Chunichi ties.
    131AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:27
    Re: #59
    Wada was the batting coach but got let go along with Tatsunami, so that's off the table.
    64AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:17
    When he first took the job he was treated like some cheerful guy in a pink uniform, but you could watch the expression drain out of his face little by little.
    For his own sake, it's probably time to let him go.
    67AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:18
    Re: #64
    Managing just seems to age people overnight.
    Even 'Gaffe' aged fast in his first year too.
    79AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:19
    Once they build a home-run terrace, we'll definitely win!!!! (a short-fence structure meant to boost homers)
    81AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:20
    Re: #79
    That's just going to double home runs allowed too!
    87AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:20
    No way, seriously?
    Inoue rebuilt this team all the way up to Climax Series contention from '666' — why would he need to quit?
    If the front office had actually reinforced the roster, they could've even fought for 2nd place this year.
    90AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:21
    Re: #87
    Even though they're currently fighting Yakult and Hiroshima for last place this year?
    92AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:21
    Re: #87
    8 games back, and contending for what exactly?
    98AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:22
    Re: #87
    Lol, Chunichi's the only team whose expectations keep cratering.
    88AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:21
    Let's just get a manager who can actually put fans in the seats — forget wins and losses.
    99AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:22
    Re: #88
    If drawing fans is the only bar, then Inoue's outdrawing Ochiai from the powerhouse-Dragons era, which would make him a great manager, right?
    96AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:22
    Does Ochiai just have zero interest in managing again?
    103AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:22
    Re: #96
    Only three managers in NPB history have led a team in their 70s:
    Mr. Ohgi
    Nomu-san (Katsuya Nomura)
    …and Joynus (lol)
    111AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:24
    Re: #96
    If you mean Hiromitsu (Ochiai), doing commentary or interviews is one thing, but there's no way he could handle the grind of managing again.
    You see the occasional photo on his son Fukushi's X account, and he really does look like an old man now.
    128AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:27
    Re: #96
    He's already settled into his 'living out his golden years on YouTube' phase, so no chance.
    102AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:22
    I laughed when they started Wakui in a completely meaningless dead-rubber game just the other day.
    126AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:26
    Re: #102
    There's zero point in climbing within the 4th-to-6th place pack.
    If it's a dead game, treat it like one and just run out the young guys.
    It's the same pointless move as when Yoda, in a year he'd already decided not to chase the Climax Series, worked the team half to death down the stretch just to sneak into 3rd.
    107AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:23
    Does Tatsu(nami) himself even want the job?
    And what's the plan for the coaching staff?
    110AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:24
    Re: #107
    He'd obviously call up his buddy Kataoka.
    108AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:23
    Who's going to end up as the new Giants manager, I wonder.
    118AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:25
    Re: #108
    Watching Yoshinobu (Takahashi) lately, it feels like it's already a done deal.
    He's been dropping hints.
    149AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:30
    New Chunichi Dragons Manager: Shinji Imanaka Rumor Suddenly Surfaces — Sho Nakata Tipped as Batting Coach⚾

    Source: Weekly Jitsuwa

    [Chunichi] Dark Clouds Over the Inoue Regime After 15 Straight Pennant-less Years… Escalating In-House 'Factional Feuding' and the Sudden Imanaka-Nakata Regime Proposal
    https://weekly-jitsuwa.jp/archives/24232

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Chunichi finished last in the league in both 2024 and 2025, and this season — Inoue’s third at the helm — the team again struggled to climb above .500. The thread split over how to judge his in-game management: some defended him, arguing that “by sabermetric-style stats, this team shouldn’t have a losing record at all,” while others countered that “a bullpen’s performance doesn’t always show up in the numbers” — a debate that highlights how hard it is to judge a manager when the stats and the results don’t line up. On the question of a successor, names of former coaches and Chunichi alumni kept coming up one after another, but readers should note that the Imanaka/Nakata plan reported by Weekly Jitsuwa is just one outlet’s speculative report, not an official club announcement. There’s also underlying frustration with front-office management for failing to groom a successor — for instance, former farm-team manager Atsushi Kataoka left the organization once Tatsunami (“Tatsu”) stepped down.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Breaking] Chunichi Manager Kazuki Inoue to ‘Resign’ — Takes Responsibility for Team’s Slump, Personally Requests Departure from the Club…“

  • Chunichi Dragons Manager Kazuki Inoue Announces Resignation — Dead Last in Year Two of Three-Year Deal, 21 Games Under .500

    On the 29th, Chunichi Dragons manager Kazuki Inoue announced he will step down at the end of this season. With 141 games played, the team sits at 59 wins, 80 losses, and 2 draws — a franchise-worst 21 games under .500 — and is stuck in last place. It amounts to a de facto mid-contract resignation in year two of his three-year deal. Fighting back tears at a media scrum, he said he had “come to the decision to take responsibility, as a matter of accountability.” He’s expected to keep managing through the season finale on October 3. The 5ch thread drew a wide range of reactions, covering potential successors, the team’s organizational culture, and the realities of attendance figures.

    9/29 (Tue) 16:05

    It was confirmed on the 29th that Chunichi manager Kazuki Inoue will resign at the end of this season. At a media scrum during full-squad practice at Vantelin Dome, he announced his own resignation, saying, “After two more games, I will step down.” “Given that we couldn’t win, I came to the decision to take responsibility — as a matter of accountability — for the fact that our results and standings never improved.” This season the team sits in last place through 141 games, with a record of 59 wins, 80 losses, and 2 draws. A fourth straight loss in the September 26 game against the Yakult Swallows (at Jingu Stadium) pushed the deficit to a season-worst 21 games under .500. Manager Inoue is expected to remain at the helm through the scheduled season finale on October 3, also against Yakult at Jingu.

    His second season in charge started rough, with three straight losses to the Hiroshima Carp in the opening series at Mazda Stadium. New import closer Abreu complained of lower back pain and blew a game, kicking off a five-game losing streak right out of the gate. The Dragons were already 10 games under .500 just 18 games into the season, and on May 1 — in the franchise’s 90th-anniversary year — they suffered their 20th loss in just 28 games, the fastest pace to 20 losses in team history. After falling to 13 games under .500, they strung together four straight wins starting April 24 against Yakult (at Vantelin Dome), briefly hinting at a comeback, only to slump again. By the June 13 game against the Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fighters (at Escon Field), the deficit had ballooned to 20 games under .500. Even so, the team went 12-11 in July — the first winning month of the Inoue era — and in August strung together a season-best five-game win streak. On August 26 they closed to within 1.5 games of third place, but couldn’t close out the crucial games that followed.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    9AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:28
    16AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:29
    At least he actually got to resign.
    Meanwhile Arai (the Hiroshima Carp manager) wants to quit and can't.
    42AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:32
    Re: #16
    Poor Arai, honestly…
    50AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:33
    Why? Fans keep showing up even though the team's weak — that's basically the ideal manager for the Chuni-Dora (Chunichi Dragons fan nickname).
    72AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:36
    Re: #50
    These days your final standing only affects your bonus — put up good individual stats and your pay goes way up regardless of team rank. Missing the Climax Series is really the only actual loss.
    52AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:33
    Re: #42
    Getting sympathy for NOT resigning while sitting in last place — that's a new one. Fitting, since it's Arai (a pun: his name sounds like "arai," meaning rough/coarse).
    124AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:44
    Re: #52
    Same story with Nomu-ken (Kenjiro Nomura) and Ogata back in the day. The front office can't even picture a path to a title, so it doesn't matter who's manager — by the end of a manager's tenure, it seems to become about keeping a guy who wants to quit around and subservient, just to put the owner's and GM's power on display.
    56AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:33
    Thought "why not just bring back Taiho" — then remembered he'd already passed away.
    248AnonymousSep 29, 2026 17:00
    Re: #56
    Just go with Eiji Bando then.
    57AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:33
    Wish he'd stuck it out the full three years. Being a manager must be a thankless, brutal job.
    60AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:34
    Re: #57
    Yeah, you get absolutely trashed the moment you start losing.
    73AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:36
    The Carp are in 4th, so no need for their manager to resign.
    87AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:38
    Re: #73
    Wait, aren't they in last place…? Huh, seems like they climbed up when nobody was looking!?
    79AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:37
    Most of the pundits predicted an A-Class (top 3) finish.

    88AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:38
    Re: #79
    Funny how Tabuchi's the one who actually nailed it lol
    101AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:40
    Re: #79
    Hari-san won't be around to see how the pennant race turns out.
    107AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:41
    Re: #79
    Funny how Yakult's the only team the pundits all agreed on.
    They hit double digits over .500 at one point and had the commentators sweating, but then cratered all the way to the bottom — those pundits are probably relieved now.
    80AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:37
    Even so, attendance is still up, right?
    Sounds like Grampus (Nagoya's J-League club) crowds are up too — guess Nagoya fans just don't care about winning or losing.
    86AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:38
    Re: #80
    That's the "Tax League" for you — free tickets, lol (a jab at the Central League relying on corporate-expense freebies).
    137AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:46
    Re: #80
    Attendance is really just a function of the economy.
    138AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:46
    Re: #80
    Nagoya acts like a big city but there's not much to actually do there.
    LEGOLAND, really? lol
    93AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:39
    In the end, isn't Ibata the only real candidate?
    Maybe the dark horse is a foreign manager.
    117AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:43
    Re: #93
    Thought Takeshi Yamasaki would be good — he's a solid commentator too — but then his son screwed up, so…
    146AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:47
    Re: #93
    And thus, Manager "Mocca" is born! (apparent joke nickname for a foreign candidate)
    120AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:43
    Feels like it wouldn't matter much who manages Chunichi at this point.
    Isn't selling the team the owner's only real path to rebuilding it?
    130AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:45
    Re: #120
    They've got talent though — at least more than Yakult, and probably in better shape than Hiroshima once Hiroshima loses Tokoda and Itakura.

    We'll gladly take Tokoda off your hands.
    135AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:45
    Re: #120
    Wonder if there'd even be a buyer lol. The team can't leave Nagoya, and the stadium's got maybe 15 years left before it's hopelessly outdated.
    127AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:45
    Hanshin's Nakano came out of Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Okazaki — that's practically hometown talent.

    Where were Chunichi's scouts even looking?
    159AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:49
    Re: #127
    Don't expect much from scouts who let hometown boy Ichiro slip away.
    171AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:51
    Re: #127
    Makihara, Kudo, Ichiro, Senga — [all Aichi-born stars Chunichi's scouts missed]
    192AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:54
    Re: #127
    Right before the draft, a Chunichi scout actually introduced Nakano as a top pick(?) on a local Nagoya TV show — so the scout in charge clearly did rate him highly.
    162AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:49
    At this point nobody's going to want the Chunichi manager job.
    169AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:50
    Re: #162
    You think so? With 6th place being the norm now, it's basically stress-free.
    197AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:54
    Re: #162
    Last place is basically their permanent address, so if anything there's zero pressure. Plus it pays 100 million yen a year.
    222AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:57
    Re: #162
    Then just make Cesar the manager already.
    166AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:50
    Makes you realize how incredible Hoshino really was, pulling off a trade to grab the Giants' ace Nishimoto.
    172AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:51
    Re: #166
    He knew how to build that "we're winning this" atmosphere. Say what you want, but Hoshino really was a championship closer.
    244AnonymousSep 29, 2026 17:00
    Re: #166
    Not just that — he also landed Ochiai at Chunichi, Kanemoto at Hanshin, and Kazuo Matsui at Rakuten. The man had a real knack for it.
    206AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:55
    I actually respected that Inoue answered reporters' questions so sincerely. His odd phrasing made his comments entertaining too.
    212AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:56
    Re: #206
    Maybe that's partly because the parent company is a media company.
    220AnonymousSep 29, 2026 16:57
    Re: #206
    He never dodged an interview. Gotta give him credit for that.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Ever since Tsuyoshi Yoda, Chunichi has cycled through managers every few years, and Kazuki Inoue’s departure likewise amounts to a de facto mid-term resignation in year two of a three-year contract. Three straight losses to Hiroshima to open the season, miscalculations with new import Abreu, and other early setbacks piled up the deficit fast, and by May — the franchise’s 90th-anniversary year — the team had already set the record for fastest 20th loss in team history, cementing the slump early on. In the thread, users discussed the team’s odd ability to keep drawing crowds despite poor results, floated potential successors such as Hiroaki Ibata or calls for a foreign manager, and also vented frustration at the scouting department for having missed players like Ichiro and Hanshin’s Takumu Nakano in the past — suggesting the distrust runs deep, extending beyond in-game management to the front office and player-development structure as a whole. Manager Inoue is expected to stay in charge through the season finale on October 3, with his formal departure coming after that.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Express+) thread ‘[Chunichi] Manager Kazuki Inoue: “I will resign,” fighting back tears — a painful decision in year two of a three-year contract: “As a matter of accountability… I came to the decision to take responsibility”.’

  • DeNA Announces First Round of 10 Roster Cuts, Including Fujinami and Kozono

    DeNA reportedly issued first-round roster cut notices on September 29 to 10 players in total — 6 on the active roster, including pitchers Shintaro Fujinami, Kenta Kozono, and Chihaya Sasaki, plus 4 development-squad players. On 5channel threads, the main topic was Kozono’s stalled development, given he joined the team as a first-round pick contested by multiple clubs out of high school and is now facing this notice in his fifth year, with many posts comparing his fate to that of high school pitchers from the same draft class who went to other teams. There was also plenty of speculation about where Fujinami might end up next, with some predicting this first round of cuts won’t be the last.

    On the 29th, DeNA issued roster cut notices to six active-roster players — pitchers Shintaro Fujinami, Kenta Kozono, Chihaya Sasaki, Hayato Horioka, and Hayate Nakagawa, plus outfielder Ayato Inoue — along with four development-squad players: infielder Kenji Nishimaki, pitcher Ryunosuke Matsumoto, infielder Sou Ogasawara, and catcher Taiga Kondo. With this first round already topping 10 players, it looks set to be an offseason of major roster turnover.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:11
    So Ichiwasho's Kozono is done for?
    Guess he's just fallen apart.
    4AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:11
    You've gotta cut guys like that or you'll never have room for the draft, free agents, or import signings.
    6AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:12
    Seriously, what even happened with Kozono?
    7AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:12
    Kozono hasn't developed one bit since his rookie year.
    Forever stuck throwing that limp-noodle ~140 km/h (~87 mph) fastball.
    15AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:14
    Re: #7
    I mean, even in high school he couldn't dominate other high schoolers.
    His control was just way too bad.
    8AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:13
    Didn't Sasaki Chihaya actually pitch a decent amount this year too?
    19AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:15
    Re: #8
    Only 5 appearances, so honestly that's basically nothing.
    Still, he's already 32… wonder if anyone will pick him up.
    9AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:13
    Is Fujinami seriously headed for the takoyaki-stand life? (a running joke about washed-up athletes opening food stalls)
    10AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:13
    Kozono was a first-round pick multiple teams fought over in the draft too.
    Did that year's high school BIG3 completely wash out?
    30AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:18
    Re: #10
    Yeah, it's pretty rough.
    39AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:22
    Re: #30
    Just Tatsu, Taisei, and Sumida left standing, huh?
    11AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:13
    So they're cutting Kozono in year 5 even though he was a contested first-round high school pick?
    He was always a mystery pitcher — a righty who topped out at 140 km/h (~87 mph).
    13AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:13
    From a Chunichi fan's point of view, a guy like Nakagawa is an absolute monster.
    17AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:14
    Getting cut this fast after being a contested first-round high school pick is pretty rare.
    18AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:14
    So where's Fujinami gonna land, anyway? There's a rumor floating around about the Fighters (Nippon-Ham).
    20AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:15
    Having three first-round picks get cut all at once is pretty unusual.
    Though DeNA only had one true first-rounder in that mix.
    33AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:19
    Wait, isn't Nishimaki the guy who used to be with Rakuten?
    He was getting into games as a rookie straight out of high school and seemed pretty highly touted, no?
    50AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:25
    Re: #33
    In the end he never did learn to hit the fastball.
    46AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:24
    Messenger (former Hanshin ace Randy Messenger) once said, 'If Fujinami keeps this up, he'll end up an average pitcher' — didn't expect him to end up below average.
    52AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:26
    Re: #46
    If you can stick around as a pro until you're 32, that's already way above average.
    53AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:26
    Ochiai, who used to go head-to-head with Kozono back in high school, has quietly turned into a pure fastball machine hitting the 150s (93+ mph) with the Hayate (independent league club).
    This guy might actually get drafted on potential alone.
    64AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:36
    Re: #53
    Honestly surprised to hear he's still even playing baseball.
    54AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:27
    Even someone like me who barely follows this stuff has heard of Kozono.
    60AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:31
    Re: #54
    Not the 'Zombie Cigarette' guy, though — different person.
    59AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:30
    Re: #55
    What's this 'Tatsu-Tatsu' thing?
    61AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:32
    Re: #59
    Guess you don't know the first thing about keeping up appearances.
    63AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:34
    Where did Tanaka Masayoshi and Sasaki Chihaya's paths diverge?
    66AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:36
    Re: #63
    Well, 'Justice' (Tanaka's nickname, a pun on his name) hasn't lived up to his amateur-days hype either.
    Back in his amateur days he was mowing down pros with ease, so everyone assumed he'd dominate as a starter from year one.
    69AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:40
    If it's only 6 active-roster guys, they'll definitely cut more in the second round.
    Makes no sense that Kamizato and Shibata weren't cut in this first round.
    73AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:42
    Re: #69
    Those two are on the first team.
    There are still games left to play this season.
    70AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:41
    Tatsu got labeled a 'landmine' for being so obsessed with the majors that he wouldn't listen to his high school coaches, but he ended up being the biggest hit of the bunch.
    92AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:51
    Re: #70
    According to Takada, the former GM, the Fighters apparently have a team policy of favoring that kind of maverick-type player in the draft.
    71AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:41
    Everyone assumed Hanshin was going to make Sasaki their top pick, but 'Yaniki' (nickname for Hanshin great Tomoaki Kanemoto) going with his own gut call and picking Oyama instead is just incredible.
    74AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:42
    Re: #71
    They still got him in the second round though, right?
    77AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:43
    Re: #71
    Oyama should've been a contested pick too!
    80AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:44
    Fujinami, Kozono, Chihaya, Nakagawa, Horioka —
    that's honestly enough talent to build a decent rotation out of.
    Is DeNA's pitching staff really going to be okay cutting this many guys?
    83AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:46
    Re: #80
    Isn't Fujinami the only one with an actual track record?
    81AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:45
    Don't forget Nishimaki was already released by Rakuten after just 2 years. So he's lasted 6 more years since then — that's actually not bad at all.
    And now Sasaki Chihaya, the guy fans wanted to see as a contested pick alongside Oyama, gets cut first.
    84AnonymousSep 29, 2026 14:46
    Re: #81
    If Oyama had been a contested pick and they'd ended up with Sasaki instead, there'd have been no championship this year.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    NPB’s roster cut notices begin every year in late September, starting with each team announcing its ‘first-round’ list of released players, followed by a second round of notices and shifts to development contracts before final rosters are settled by year’s end. The 10 players named this time include both active-roster and development-squad players, and the article alone doesn’t make clear that development contracts differ from active-roster contracts in terms of treatment and re-signing conditions. Kozono, who became the focus of the thread’s discussion, was a highly touted prospect who joined the team as a first-round pick contested by multiple clubs out of high school, and his results became a point of comparison against other high school pitchers drafted around the same time by other teams. That said, internal team matters such as individual development progress or injury history can’t be determined from the thread posts alone, so caution is warranted before drawing firm conclusions. As for where Fujinami might transfer to, the discussion never goes beyond rumor, and an official announcement will need to be awaited.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Live Galileo) thread “DeNA cuts a massive 10 players lol.”

  • Yakult’s Koyo Aoyagi Left Out of Next Season’s Plans — 5ch: ‘The Man Who Never Sparked a Single Controversy’

    It emerged on September 28 via a Nikkan Sports report that Yakult Swallows pitcher Koyo Aoyagi (32) has been left out of the team’s plans for next season. Aoyagi left the Hanshin Tigers to pursue a shot at MLB, was released from the Phillies’ Double-A affiliate last July, and signed with Yakult that same month — but went winless in three appearances last season and never got called up to the first team this year before receiving this notice. On 5ch, opinions split over whether his MLB bid was worth it, how quickly underhand pitchers tend to decline, and how to view Hanshin letting go of both Shintaro Fujinami and Aoyagi around the same time.

    Published 9/29 (Tue) 4:00 AM

    Nikkan Sports

    It was learned on the 28th that Yakult Swallows pitcher Koyo Aoyagi (32) has been left out of the team’s plans for next season. He was released from the Phillies’ Double-A affiliate last July and joined Yakult at the end of that month. He went winless in three appearances last season, and has not been called up to the first team at all this season. He is believed to want to continue his playing career.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:07
    The man who never sparked a 'wait, isn't that unfair?' debate the way Uesawa did
    24AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:13
    Re: #3
    Everyone probably figured Uesawa would actually turn out to be useful (lol)
    77AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:45
    Re: #3
    Who are you calling unfair!
    4AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:07
    Chunichi's got a new teammate coming in
    73AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:42
    Re: #4
    He's their nemesis, a real DeNA-killer, so it could work
    7AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:08
    Forgot he existed
    He should've just stayed with the Tigers
    27AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:14
    Re: #7
    He hated that idea, that's exactly why he went after the majors
    8AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:08
    A 4.42 ERA in the farm league is rough — feels like he burned through all his luck at his peak
    10AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:09
    No comeback for the hairline, but there's still hope for a comeback as a player
    11AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:09
    His family's basically a Yakult household, so it's kind of an obligation signing
    13AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:10
    Former Samurai Japan ace, washed up at 32…
    Even Fujinami still looks more likely to find takers?
    16AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:11
    Underhand pitchers have a short shelf life to begin with
    On top of that, once age drags his output down,
    his delicate balance collapses and he's no longer pro-level
    23AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:13
    Re: #16
    Reminds me of Hisashi Yamada or Masaki Saito — though those are seriously old-school names
    59AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:35
    Re: #16
    Rei Takahashi faded out fast too.
    18AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:12
    Isn't he just injury-prone to begin with,
    before we even get to 'decline'?
    19AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:12
    He was doing so well, then suddenly couldn't perform at all
    What happened
    61AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:35
    Re: #19
    His numbers were already sliding a good two years before he left for the majors
    So yeah, call it decline
    20AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:12
    Fujinami, now Aoyagi — the Tigers are a cold-hearted team
    46AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:30
    Re: #20
    Cold-hearted? They let two guys move to MLB without even having international FA rights — that's plenty generous. What happens after that is on them.
    21AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:12
    Didn't know he was college classmates with Yakult's Shiomi
    28AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:15
    Re: #23
    You don't have to go back that far — there's Shunsuke Watanabe and Makita too
    30AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:15
    Same age as Ohtani
    67AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:38
    Re: #30
    Nope
    Aoyagi's a year above him
    He's in the Kondo/Yoshida Masataka class
    31AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:15
    Hanshin probably let him go at just the right time
    and are feeling pretty smug about it (lol)
    34AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:20
    Fujinami, Aoyagi —
    both ended up on teams with zero stake
    in this year's pennant race
    38AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:23
    Fuse him with Fujinami into one demon pitcher (´・ω・`)
    48AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:31
    Re: #38
    Fujinami's velocity plus Aoyagi's form and control might actually add up to something usable
    52AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:33
    Re: #46
    That's not it
    Both Fujinami and Aoyagi were cut loose because they stopped winning, plain and simple
    Sato Teruaki wants to try the majors too, but they won't let him go because he's still a valuable piece
    64AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:36
    Re: #52
    'Cut loose' isn't the right word
    They just didn't stand in his way, they didn't push him out
    If anything, the club respected his own wishes
    Don't write careless nonsense
    55AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:34
    His composed pitching in the final game of the Japan Series was awesome
    65AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:38
    Re: #55
    Noisy's homer and Aoyagi's strong outing —
    that was a genuinely rare game
    81AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:46
    (32)? No way…
    He's got the presence of a (52) year old…
    88AnonymousSep 29, 2026 10:51
    Re: #81
    He's been called a 'homegrown veteran' since the day he joined the team

    Background and Points of Debate

    Aoyagi was Hanshin’s ace-caliber pitcher around 2021, but his performance began declining around 2023, and in 2024 he left the team to pursue a move to MLB despite not holding international free-agent rights. He failed to produce the results he wanted in the Phillies organization, was released, and joined Yakult last July. In the thread, opinions split over whether to view his exit from Hanshin as the club ‘cutting him loose’ or as ‘the team respecting his own wishes,’ with Hanshin’s parallel split from Shintaro Fujinami around the same time cited as a point of comparison. This latest move — being ‘left out of next season’s plans’ — comes after a season with no first-team call-up, but the term itself doesn’t mean release or retirement; the article only notes speculation that he intends to keep playing. His future will likely come into focus through the coming release notices and roster-cut meetings.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Yakult] Koyo Aoyagi left out of next season’s plans — joined last July, no first-team call-up this season, believed to want to keep playing.”

  • Shohei Ohtani Finishes Season Ranked 5th in WAR — 5ch Asks: ‘Is There Even a Point to the Two-Way Thing Anymore?’

    With the 2026 MLB season now over, Shohei Ohtani settling for 5th place in the overall WAR rankings — the stat meant to capture a player’s total value — became a hot topic on 5ch’s “Whatever Live” sports board. Breaking down the numbers, his batting WAR was 3.7 (40th) and his pitching WAR was 2.9 (34th) — neither figure is anything special on its own for a two-way player. It also came out that teammate Seiya Suzuki actually beat Ohtani in batting WAR alone, and the thread split over whether the two-way experiment is still worth it, and how to judge a season plagued by injuries.

    (Note: Mijirowski picked up his 16th win of the season in his final start)

    1. PCA (Pete Crow-Armstrong) — 10.6

    2. Witt Jr. — 7.0

    Source: fangraphs.com / original article here

    3AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:26
    So basically these four guys are worth more than ¥100 billion in contracts?
    9AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:27
    Miji's number is lower than I expected
    11AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:29
    Re: #9
    Being the #1 pitcher and still this low…
    12AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:29
    Re: #9
    He was probably being handled carefully
    His innings pitched were on the low side too
    10AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:28
    Batting WAR 3.7 (40th)
    Pitching WAR 2.9 (34th)

    Broken down individually, that's rough
    19AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:31
    Re: #10
    Is there even a point to the two-way thing at this rate?
    14AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:29
    This metric just doesn't favor pitchers, and it way overrates center fielders
    17AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:30
    Re: #14
    Well yeah, obviously — starters only take the mound once a week and only go 6 or 7 innings. Position players are out there for all 9 innings every single day
    22AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:32
    Re: #17
    In MLB it's a 4-5 day rotation though
    24AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:33
    Re: #22
    Then why was Ohtani only throwing 6 innings and 90 pitches on 6 days' rest…?
    31AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:36
    Career pitching WAR over 9 years: 16.6
    Average per year: 1.8


    There's just no point to the two-way thing at these numbers
    36AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:38
    Re: #31
    Because without the two-way roster rule, Yoshinobu Yamamoto would get worked into the ground
    37AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:38
    Re: #31
    Lol, his career WAR is the same as Uehara's, and Uehara didn't even go to MLB until he was almost 40
    56AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:06
    PCA's just padding his numbers by being 'two-way' in batting and defense
    59AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:11
    Re: #56
    Guys who can't field don't show up here
    Trout, Judge, Betts, and Bobby Witt Jr. all hit 10 WAR as position players
    57AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:07
    .276, 30 HR, .891 OPS
    And this is supposedly his 'washed up, off year' that everyone keeps complaining about
    Ohtani's a monster
    This crushes even the career-best seasons of everyone else
    Ohtani in a terrible slump > everyone else's career year
    66AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:15
    Re: #57
    Can't even read the data properly, can you?
    Shohei Ohtani — batting WAR 3.7 (22nd in the league)
    Seiya Suzuki — batting WAR 4.6 (10th in the league)
    69AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:18
    Re: #66
    If WAR includes defense, then it's only fair to include Ohtani's pitching WAR too
    70AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:19
    Wait, do you guys actually hate Ohtani that much?
    74AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:22
    Re: #70
    Not that I hate him, I just watched because he was dominating — doesn't mean I'm a fan though
    There's no heartwarming backstory to him or anything
    78AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:25
    Re: #70
    Honestly there's no struggle story with him, he's just been blessed from the start
    When he was putting up numbers I thought he was amazing, but I never really liked him as a person
    73AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:21
    Even limiting it to just batting WAR, losing to Seiya Suzuki is shocking
    Suzuki's doing well, sure, but until now nobody would've even compared him to Ohtani — the gap was just too big
    77AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:24
    Re: #73
    The fact that a guy actually playing defense is beating a DH-only guy in batting WAR is already weird on its own
    Suzuki was DH-only last year too and his OPS is basically unchanged from this year — defensive workload barely matters unless you're playing shortstop or catcher anyway
    75AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:23
    Ohtani without pitching is worse than Suzuki
    And honestly it's not even clear if Ohtani can pitch properly again going forward
    Even if he quits the two-way thing, if his knee's shot he probably can't even do proper defensive drills
    82AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:27
    Re: #75
    If he's not pitching, he can just bulk up and hit 50 home runs
    He's on a different level from some guy who bulked up and only managed 32
    81AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:27
    Re: #74
    I get that, but there are quite a few people gleefully celebrating his numbers dropping too, right?
    I just wonder what's so satisfying about that
    104AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:41
    Re: #81
    I think it's just that his fanboys picked fights with not only other baseball players but other athletes in general, one too many times lol
    86AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:28
    He's getting crushed in both WAR and OPS overall, so acting like it's only fair to narrow it down to batting WAR — isn't that kind of disrespecting Seiya Suzuki?
    93AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:31
    Re: #86
    In the past, even narrowing it down to just batting WAR, it was a total blowout [in Ohtani's favor]
    I still don't think Ohtani's overall combined value is actually below Suzuki's even now, but the fact that he lost even in the batting-only comparison is a decline nobody would've imagined before
    96AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:34
    Ohtani always prioritized sleep for recovery above everything else. But now that his second child has been born, there's probably crying at night, and he's probably too smitten to help it — his daily rhythm must have taken at least some hit.
    It might not just be aging; his priorities in life may have shifted too.

    Either way, looking forward to next season.
    99AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:36
    Re: #96
    The problem is he's not aware of that and is still trying to keep up his old workload
    97AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:34
    Re: #93
    He'll probably get crushed again next year anyway though
    Suzuki's having a career year in his contract year (lit. "job-hunting year")
    Ohtani's just a guy whose numbers dropped because of injury
    98AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:36
    Re: #97
    Sure, that's how it'll go if he commits to being a batter only
    But if he insists on sticking with the two-way thing, it's obvious he'll get injured again next year too
    Even in his younger years there were barely any seasons where he actually managed to balance both
    103AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:41
    As a DH-only guy, even pulling off a 50-50 season won't get his fWAR to 10, so that path's a dead end
    If two-way is off the table, playing defense is the only way left to reach fWAR 10
    105AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:43
    Re: #103
    A body that breaks down from just a little bit of pitching obviously can't handle playing defense every single day
    He's DH-only from here on out lol
    107AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:48
    Re: #103
    Well, he could probably manage in the outfield
    108AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:53
    At the end of the day, staying injury-free is the single most essential requirement for a player to really succeed

    There's not a single injury-prone player who became truly great
    Every player who gets called a legend stays completely injury-free right up until their later years

    No matter how well you hit or pitch, if you get injured it's all wasted
    It all goes down the drain
    109AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:58
    Re: #108
    Wait, is Ohtani not already a legend?

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    WAR is a metric that converts multiple elements — batting, baserunning, defense, and pitching — into a single number measured against a replacement-level player, and the fewer chances a player gets to play, the harder it is for that number to grow. Because Ohtani was coming off an injury and had his starts and innings limited, his pitching WAR was always likely to come in low; and since he’s DH-only as a batter, there’s no bonus from defensive value built into the metric, so even strong batting numbers don’t easily translate into a top batting-WAR ranking. The point of contention in the thread was whether the value of a two-way player should be measured by “batting WAR plus pitching WAR combined,” or whether he should be judged by the same standard as single-position players — and by design, WAR itself doesn’t clearly settle which approach is correct. It’s also worth keeping in mind that this was a year in which playing time itself was reduced due to injury, which was one factor behind the drop in ranking.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (“Whatever Live G”) thread “[Sad News] Shohei Ohtani Falls to 5th in WAR Rankings Right at the Very End, Season Over.”

  • Kuwata’s Exit as Giants Farm Manager Chalked Up to ‘Failed Player Development’ — 5ch: ‘Kuwata’s Just Not Cut Out for Coaching Prospects’

    It’s been reported that the Giants front office judged Kuwata Masumi’s tenure as farm team manager a case of “failed player development,” prompting his departure — despite the farm squad finishing first in the Eastern League in team ERA, batting average, and stolen bases. The report also touches on rumors of friction with former first-team manager Abe Shinnosuke. On 5ch’s Giants threads, the news set off a wave of doubts about Kuwata’s development skills, and comments from his successor, new farm manager Ishii Takuro, who let slip “No, I’m exhausted” in a solo interview, also became a talking point. Meanwhile, the first team is in the final stretch of the pennant race, two games behind the first-place Tigers with four games remaining, and surrounding news — like Kazuma Okamoto’s rookie MLB season wrap-up and the Carp’s Sasaki pulling out due to illness — was also circulating.

    1AnonymousSep 28, 2026 15:16
    Previous thread
    Giants Acting Manager Thread 154
    4AnonymousSep 28, 2026 15:17
    Kazuma Okamoto: 'Baseball is baseball. Glad I came.' — Wraps rookie MLB season, 6th in the league with 33 homers; 182 strikeouts were 'a lot,' but 'I'm not going to start just trying to make contact'… Q&A
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/77a095c3a9d15b1e86581b7f7a8c95a4bb580b84
    13AnonymousSep 28, 2026 15:45
    Copypasta for supporting post #75

    imgur.com/a/WM7FsTs
    17AnonymousSep 28, 2026 16:44
    Re: #13
    So I just paste this in at #75?
    16AnonymousSep 28, 2026 16:43
    Turns out there were a lot of Giants fans among iLife otaku (fans of "iLife") — especially the women.
    21AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:04
    999 Anonymous Wanted… 2026/09/28 (Mon) 17:03:53.03 0
    Galaxy Express 999 (a running 5ch joke tied to hitting post #999)

    No way…
    22AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:06
    974 Anonymous Wanted… Posted: 2026/09/28 (Mon) 13:32:09.54
    This is our team's lineup for next season!!

    2B Urata
    CF Matsumoto
    1B Dahlbeck
    DH Reyes
    LF Sakakura
    C Oshiro
    SS Izumiguchi
    3B Ishizuka
    RF Sasaki

    Starting Rotation
    Inoue
    Takemaru
    Ogasawara
    Espinoza
    Morishita
    Togo
    Yamazaki
    25AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:09
    Carp's Sasaki out sick, to miss the Sept. 28 game — not removed from the active roster; had started 48 straight games since late July
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/0783570bac53e052f38595ac6e1febb7c867e8f7
    27AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:11
    Guess there's no game today?
    If the Tigers ('Chin,' a common 5ch nickname) aren't playing either, that's a bummer.
    35AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:19
    Re: #27
    ■Soccer international friendly: Kirin Challenge Cup 2026 "Japan vs. Venezuela"
    Sept. 28 (Mon) 19:25–21:30, NTV
    Road to 2030! Having opened with a win, can Moriyasu's Japan make it two straight against a South American powerhouse? World Cup regulars and new faces in action! Guest: Gonda; analysts: Kakitani & Yamada *up to 10 min. overtime

    ■Asian Games ★Track & Field★ Kiryu's sub-10 relay squad chases continental gold! Ryuji Miura also features!
    Sept. 28 (Mon) 18:30–23:27, TBS
    Yoshihide Kiryu's sub-10-second relay squad goes for its first Asian title in 8 years! Ryuji Miura in the 3000m steeplechase! Nozomi Tanaka chases her third medal! Super high-schooler Daiki Goto and 18-year-old Rin Kubo also aim for medals!

    ■tvk Pro Baseball: Yokohama DeNA BayStars Passionate LIVE "Yokohama vs. Hiroshima"
    Sept. 28 (Mon) 18:15–21:30, tvk
    Hamastar's fired-up theater! Leaving a powerful mark heading into the Climax Series! Every Bay player united, one game at a time! Blue-dyed, burning passion
    31AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:17
    [Central League Official Record Correction]
    Sept. 17 (Thu), Tigers–Carp game 20 (Koshien)
    Top of the 4th: the advance to third base by runner Ryosuke Kikuchi (Carp) has been corrected from "wild pitch by pitcher Haruto Takahashi (Tigers)" to "advance during a fielding play resulting in an out."
    32AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:17
    The matchups for the First Stage of the 2026 Farm Japan Championship, starting Oct. 3 (Sat), have been decided.
    ▼Game 1
    Nippon-Ham (East Division champion) vs. SoftBank (West Division champion)
    ▼Game 2
    DeNA (Central Division champion) vs. Giants (Wild Card)
    ※Depending on when Game 1 ends, the start of Game 2 may be delayed.
    33AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:17
    Announced starters for 9/29 (Tue)
    (Giants–Carp) Shosei Togo vs. Shogo Tamamura
    (Tigers–Swallows) Kotaro Otake vs. Yuto Nakamura
    (Eagles–Marines) Itsuki Ito vs. Yuto Yoshikawa
    (Lions–Buffaloes) Kaima Taira vs. Kaisei Tomatsu
    34AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:18
    Central League pennant race line (as of Sept. 27)
    36AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:19
    【Hiroshima Carp】
    1) Nakamura Sho — LF
    2) Katsuta — SS
    3) Kikuchi — 2B
    4) Sakakura — 3B
    5) Montero — 1B
    6) Suekane — RF
    7) Nahara — CF
    8) Ishihara — C
    9) Kudo — P

    【DeNA BayStars】
    1) Watarai — LF
    2) Maki — 2B
    3) Tsutsugo — 3B
    4) Encarnacion — RF
    5) Sano — 1B
    6) Ebina — CF
    7) Furuichi — C
    8) Naruse — SS
    9) Azuma — P
    37AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:19
    Kuwata Masumi reveals the truth behind his 'sudden exit as Giants farm manager' — despite winning the Eastern League and finishing first in team ERA, batting average, and stolen bases, he was judged as having 'failed at player development'; also touches on rumors of friction with former manager Abe Shinnosuke
    https://www.news-postseven.com/archives/20260928_2133673.html

    《Exclusive confession》Kuwata Masumi speaks on his 'unchanging love for the Giants' and 'hopes for growing the sport' — on a future outside the Giants: 'If there's a chance to realize my own dreams and goals, I'd like to take it on'
    https://www.news-postseven.com/archives/20260928_2133678.html
    38AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:24
    Re: #35
    Could be fun watching whether soccer can pay off baseball's debt (make up for baseball's loss).
    41AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:26
    'No, I'm exhausted' — the unguarded remark that slipped out, smiling, in response to a question from analyst Koichi Ogata: Giants farm manager Ishii's solo interview
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/81ed2f4b6aab9cc75a01cd731c9bd0858ca9098f

    【Giants】Farm Manager Takuro Ishii Interview【Farm League】
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En4kNPPSb14
    42AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:40
    Every guy Kuwata sent up to the first team last year turned out useless, but most of the guys 'Tonro' (a mocking nickname for a staff member) sent up this year were actually decent.
    Kuwata's just not cut out for player development.
    69AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:01
    Re: #42
    Right? I just wish he'd stay out of it entirely at this point.
    47AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:47
    If the BayStars are starting Azuma today, that means on 4 days' rest it won't be us next, right?
    If it's 5 days' rest against the Tigers, there's still a chance for a comeback title.
    48AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:48
    Probably 'Unagi' (eel — a nickname, apparently for someone on the coaching staff) was the one vetoing the players Kuwata wanted to call up lol
    49AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:49
    Like Takuro (Ishii) said,
    the acting manager actually plays guys as soon as he calls them up — total opposite of Unagi.
    51AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:53
    Unagi used to play them plenty too though.
    It's not really the total opposite.
    52AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:54
    Forget not playing them — they didn't even get called up in the first place.
    53AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:54
    Higashi (Azuma) was giving a press conference earlier, and the way he talked reminded me of that show about roster-cut notifications.
    54AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:54
    Being under a .500 mark in the farm league is simply inexcusable at this point.
    55AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:55
    Hashigami calls up even guys who don't need to be there.
    59AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:57
    [Roster Cut Notification Periods]
    First notification period: Sept. 28 – Oct. 9
    ※For teams eliminated in the Climax Series First Stage, the day after elimination (or the day after that, if travel is involved)

    Second notification period: The day after the Climax Series ends through Oct. 30

    ※Notification period for development-contract players: Sept. 28 – Oct. 31
    60AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:57
    Hamastar's really gone dark already at this hour, huh.
    61AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:57
    Think about it rationally —
    two games behind the first-place Tigers with only 4 left,
    it's already over.
    65AnonymousSep 28, 2026 17:59
    We'll win the head-to-head matchup, so it's effectively just a 1-game gap.
    77AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:05
    Kikuchi's got 2,000 career hits and they still make him bunt — poor guy.
    80AnonymousSep 28, 2026 18:07
    Playing baseball like this, the Carp really have no shot at climbing back, do they.

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    Kuwata Masumi was once a star ace for the Giants, and after retiring he served as pitching coach and in other roles before taking over as farm team manager this season. The fact that his departure came despite the farm squad finishing first in the Eastern League in team ERA, batting average, and stolen bases has drawn attention to the gap between the on-paper numbers and the front office’s “failed player development” assessment. Reports of friction with former manager Abe Shinnosuke have also surfaced, suggesting the evaluation may have hinged not just on results but on how well he coordinated with the first team and its player-usage philosophy. While many thread comments question Kuwata’s development chops, some also praised his successor, new farm manager Ishii Takuro, for how quickly the first team uses players once they’re called up — suggesting that how well a farm system runs depends not only on the manager’s own ability but on how it meshes with the first team’s usage policy. Meanwhile, as of September 28 the first team sits two games behind the first-place Tigers with four games left in a tight pennant race, and the farm-management story was unfolding alongside that tension.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Giants Acting Manager Thread 155.”

  • Yakult’s Takahashi Keiji Pulled After Giving Up 7 Runs on Just 4 Hits, Fans Dismayed: ‘Act Like a Pro’

    On September 28, Sporting News Japan reported that Yakult Swallows pitcher Keiji Takahashi was pulled mid-game after allowing 7 runs on just 4 hits, sparking discussion on 5ch’s Entertainment & Sports Breaking News+ board. Since Takahashi is a left-hander with experience on the Samurai Japan national team, posters had harsh words, many saying to ‘act like a pro.’ The thread grew into a broader debate about why high-school-drafted left-handed pitchers tend not to blossom into stars, and about whether Yakult currently has an ‘ace’ who can serve as a role model for younger teammates — with some naming pitcher Yamano as an ace candidate, and others countering that the bar for ‘ace’ on this team is set far too low.

    7 Runs Allowed on Just 4 Hits: Fans Lose Faith in Yakult Lefty, ‘Act Like a Pro’… Despite Samurai Japan Pedigree, ‘When Did It Come to This?’

    Mon, Sep 28, 5:50 AM JST

    Sporting News Japan

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    4AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:21
    Why's a Yakult fan talking in Tora-ben? (the Kansai-flavored slang associated with Hanshin Tigers fans)
    58AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:58
    Re: #4
    Huh?
    Plenty of Hanshin fans actually speak standard Tokyo dialect.
    5AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:22
    Oh, Tomochin's husband. (his wife is idol Tomomi Itano, nicknamed 'Tomochin')
    He was called a promising young prospect when they first got married…
    19AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:29
    Re: #5
    High-school-drafted lefties basically never make it big.
    Since the Heisei era, only Kazuhisa Ishii and Yusei Kikuchi have reached 100 career wins in NPB.

    Kawaguchi, Kawachi, Tsujiuchi, Terajima…
    Even guys hyped as the headline pick of a first-round draft lottery routinely fizzle out and vanish without a trace. And even ones like Naruse who broke out in their early twenties end up unable to win past 25, then it's the retirement track past 30 — that's the typical arc for a high-school lefty.
    15AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:26
    Surprised he ever made Samurai Japan, though he was pretty good in the Japan Series.
    31AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:44
    Re: #15
    Not that surprising — his Japan Series outing was dominant.
    He was supposed to keep improving from there.
    Back then his wife was treated as his 'agemanko' (a woman believed to bring her partner good luck), but his luck ran out when he got tied down with a strange woman.
    21AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:32
    Yakult really doesn't have a pitcher right now who can show the younger guys what an 'ace' actually looks like.
    22AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:34
    Re: #21
    Yamano, obviously.
    However you slice it.
    25AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:38
    Re: #22
    Nah, that's just this year, isn't it?
    Who knows about next year.
    You can't call him an ace unless he puts up at least 7 wins consistently for a minimum of 4-5 years.
    26AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:39
    Re: #22
    He has one decent year and suddenly he's the ace, however you slice it?
    The bar for 'Yakult ace' is really low, huh.
    23AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:36
    Why don't high-school lefties ever pan out?
    I guess through high school, just being left-handed is already a huge advantage on its own?
    48AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:51
    Re: #23
    >Why don't high-school lefties ever pan out?

    Masa Yamamoto, Imanaka.
    30AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:42
    Re: #26
    Of course the bar for 'ace of the Scrub-alt' (a mocking nickname mashing up Yakult with 雑魚, 'scrub') is low — they're headed for last place again this year anyway.
    33AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:46
    Re: #30
    Ah, sorry, my bad — I meant it as an ace who can develop the younger guys and serve as a role model.
    In that sense, I don't think a pitcher who just popped up out of nowhere with a low bar carries much weight.
    35AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:46
    Re: #31
    That's just plain dumb, honestly.
    By that logic, you'd have to prioritize whoever's been hot the last few games over their whole-season numbers.
    43AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:50
    Re: #35
    If he suddenly dominated in the Japan Series, it's not the least bit strange to think he's built for the big stage in short series, and it's natural to want to bank on that.
    Conversely, there have definitely been players who had great regular seasons but couldn't step up in a short series.
    37AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:47
    He's just a batting-practice pitcher who happens to throw lefty.
    49AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:52
    Re: #37
    Six walks/HBPs — disqualified even as a batting-practice pitcher.
    38AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:47
    Maybe he should try a change of scenery?
    Somewhere like Nippon-Ham, Rakuten, or the Carp.
    40AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:49
    By rights, Okugawa should already have several years of results under his belt and be Yakult's ace by now.
    45AnonymousSep 28, 2026 11:51
    Re: #40
    If only he'd gotten Tommy John surgery sooner.
    61AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:00
    It's fine for a batter's wife to be in the public eye, but not for a pitcher's wife — look at Ochiai's or Nomura's wives.

    For pitchers, about the only one is Darvish's ex-wife. I think Wakui's wife was in the spotlight too, but name one other pitcher who married a celebrity, kept her in the public eye, and still performed well.
    Almost all of them stay out of the spotlight and support quietly from behind the scenes.
    Elite ballplayers all across Japan follow this pattern, and that's the result.

    Starting pitchers push their bodies so hard that they need at least four days to recover before their next start.
    65AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:01
    Re: #61
    Matsuzaka: 'Tell me about it.'
    66AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:02
    And here I thought there was already a deal worked out with the Giants through the 'Tokyo Alliance' (a fan conspiracy theory about backroom cooperation between Tokyo-area teams).
    No way a guy at Takahashi Keiji's level should be self-destructing like this.
    81AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:22
    Re: #66
    Huh? Third-rate Takahashi has been walking and hitting batters and self-destructing in plenty of games besides the Giants ones too.
    He had 6 walks/HBPs against DeNA back in July as well.
    80AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:22
    He's never even thrown enough innings to qualify for the ERA title, and he can't handle a normal turnaround on 6 days' rest.
    It's nothing but good outings followed by blowups, zero consistency.
    Fans are already fed up with him.
    100AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:32
    Re: #80
    I kept thinking he should just switch to relief, but that doesn't look feasible either.
    Guess it's the chopping block.
    83AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:23
    There are other pitchers just like this out there — why does Takahashi alone get singled out for criticism?
    85AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:24
    Re: #83
    I figured all of Yakult's starters were about this level, then it turns out there's a guy on another planet going 12-4 lol.
    86AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:24
    Feels harsh to criticize him when he only allowed 4 hits.
    89AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:26
    Re: #86
    6 walks/HBPs in 3 innings.
    91AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:28
    Re: #86
    2.2 innings, 4 hits, 4 walks, 2 hit batters, 7 runs.
    Garbage.
    104AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:36
    Takahashi Keiji has never qualified for the ERA title or won double digits in a season — he's stuck at 'promising young player' status, but hey, maybe this is just his level.
    He might break out for the first time at 30, like Hanshin's Haruto Takahashi did.
    109AnonymousSep 28, 2026 12:38
    Re: #104
    Haruto Takahashi basically missed 4 years to injury though…
    Turns out Hanshin fans weren't lying when they said 'if he's ever at full health, he's unstoppable.'

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    Keiji Takahashi is a high-school-drafted left-hander who joined the Yakult Swallows as the team’s first-round pick in the 2019 draft, and he was selected for the Samurai Japan national team at the 2023 World Baseball Classic. The recurring claim in the thread that “high-school lefties rarely become stars” was based on one poster’s assertion that only Kazuhisa Ishii and Yusei Kikuchi have reached 100 career wins in NPB since the Heisei era began — worth noting this wasn’t backed by any rigorous statistical analysis. Opinion was also split, without a clear resolution, over what actually makes an “ace”: whether it should be judged on this season’s stats alone or on a multi-year track record. As for the outing itself, the line was 2.2 innings, 4 hits, 4 walks, 2 hit batters, and 7 runs allowed — suggesting hits allowed were actually low, and that control trouble from walks and hit batters was the main cause of the runs.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Entertainment & Sports Breaking News+) thread “[Yakult] Fans Lose Faith in Pitcher Keiji Takahashi After 7 Runs Allowed on 4 Hits, ‘Act Like a Pro’… Despite Samurai Japan Experience, ‘When Did It Come to This?’.”

  • Shohei Ohtani’s 9th MLB Season Stats Are In: 6th Straight 30-HR Year, But Below His Own Best

    Dodgers pitcher/DH Shohei Ohtani wrapped up his regular season in the September 27 game against the Giants, closing the books on his 9th MLB season. He finished at a .275 average, 30 home runs, and 81 RBIs — down from last year in every major batting category — and struggled after coming off the injured list (IL), going 5-for-21 with 8 strikeouts. As a pitcher he was excellent, going 8-2 with a 1.79 ERA over 14 starts, but he never took the mound again in the second half. On 5ch, fans voiced disappointment over his fading MVP hopes, debated whether the two-way act should continue, and speculated about how he’ll be used going forward.

    Sanspo, 09/28/2026 05:47

    Giants vs. Dodgers (September 27, San Francisco) — In MLB action, Dodgers pitcher Shohei Ohtani (32) batted leadoff and started at DH against the Giants. He went 1-for-3 before being pulled for a pinch hitter in the sixth. It was the final game of the regular season, closing out the stat line for Ohtani’s 9th MLB year.

    Ohtani played in 139 games this season, hitting .275 with 30 home runs, 81 RBIs, 89 runs scored, 11 stolen bases, and 152 strikeouts. Hampered by injuries, he came in under last season’s numbers across the board. As a pitcher, he went 8-2 with a 1.79 ERA over 14 starts, striking out 95 in 85 2/3 innings and drawing Cy Young buzz in the first half — but he didn’t pitch again after that. Since returning from the injured list, he’d gone just 5-for-21 with 8 strikeouts.

    Source: sanspo.com / Read the original article here

    12AnonymousSep 28, 2026 07:51
    Pages' stats since coming back are insane, right?
    This guy broke a bone worse than Ohtani did and he's still out there playing center field.
    13AnonymousSep 28, 2026 07:51
    Has he turned into just another dime-a-dozen mediocre player?
    22AnonymousSep 28, 2026 07:53
    Re: #13
    His pitching stats keep him out of "dime-a-dozen" territory though
    14AnonymousSep 28, 2026 07:51
    The limits and downsides of the two-way thing are really showing now
    Between that and the injuries, his numbers dropped way too much
    17AnonymousSep 28, 2026 07:52
    Zion's amazing
    Zion is Japanese
    I'm amazing (a snarky copypasta-style non-sequitur mocking pride-by-association)
    18AnonymousSep 28, 2026 07:52
    Getting pinch-hit for even though he's the DH — isn't Tani getting treated pretty badly lately?
    26AnonymousSep 28, 2026 07:54
    Re: #18
    And to make it worse, the pinch hitter was Rushing, who he's got history with.
    That's gotta break Ohtani mentally.
    19AnonymousSep 28, 2026 07:52
    He's declining way too fast (´^ω^`)
    21AnonymousSep 28, 2026 07:53
    The Dodgers roster: "We wish he'd just disappear under the pretense of being hurt again"
    23AnonymousSep 28, 2026 07:53
    Playing in the WBC on top of going two-way was just too much.
    And he's got a second kid on the way in his personal life too.
    24AnonymousSep 28, 2026 07:54
    This offseason might end up being wall-to-wall surgeries.
    33AnonymousSep 28, 2026 07:56
    He's fully set on going two-way again next year too, which is scary.
    35AnonymousSep 28, 2026 07:56
    It's when you're on a downswing that your true character shows — wonder how Ohtani will handle it?
    36AnonymousSep 28, 2026 07:56
    Wonder what happens to Ohtani and Murakami next year
    Murakami looks like he could sink into the .100s.
    37AnonymousSep 28, 2026 07:56
    What's the next excuse going to be for the people who said "he'll be great once he rests"?
    38AnonymousSep 28, 2026 07:56
    He could still snag World Series MVP (´・ω・`)
    39AnonymousSep 28, 2026 07:57
    This year's Japanese MLB players' batting stats

    Shohei Ohtani AVG .275 HR 30 RBI 81 OPS .889

    Seiya Suzuki AVG .270 HR 26 RBI 86 OPS .841

    Masataka Yoshida AVG .274 HR 5 RBI 28 OPS .746

    Munetaka Murakami AVG .207 HR 35 RBI 77 OPS .825

    Kazuma Okamoto AVG .232 HR 33 RBI 92 OPS .762
    41AnonymousSep 28, 2026 07:57
    Feels like he's not going to pitch in the postseason either.
    42AnonymousSep 28, 2026 07:57
    Going 86 plate appearances without a homer is brutal.

    Shohei Ohtani heads into the postseason with worries — finishes with fewest home runs (30) since 2021… an injury-marred second half brought a career-worst 86-PA homerless drought
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/fc610c74e09e0ffd17d8a3e95bb5fb95b8c1134d
    49AnonymousSep 28, 2026 07:58
    Once he started a family, the magic ran out, huh.
    59AnonymousSep 28, 2026 08:00
    Guess even someone as disciplined as Ohtani can't beat accumulated fatigue.
    Curious how much he can recover using what he's learned this year.
    60AnonymousSep 28, 2026 08:00
    Hmm…
    Feels like it might be time for him to just focus on one or the other…
    64AnonymousSep 28, 2026 08:00
    Re: #60
    Focusing on raising the kid works too
    63AnonymousSep 28, 2026 08:00
    Judging by that strikeout rate, he's neither making contact nor reading pitches well.
    66AnonymousSep 28, 2026 08:01
    Re: #63
    Yeah, he's racking up strikeouts because he can't lay off garbage pitches.

    Background and Talking Points

    Ohtani has won multiple MVP awards as a two-way player since 2021, but this injury-plagued season saw every major stat — batting average, home runs, RBIs — fall below last year’s marks. As a pitcher, he looked like a genuine Cy Young contender in the first half with a 1.79 ERA, but he never took the mound again in the second half, and even at the plate he lost his spark after coming off the IL, hitting just 5-for-21 with 8 strikeouts. Opinions in the thread split between those who think continuing the two-way workload is taking too heavy a toll on his body, and those more sympathetic who argue he’d have posted his usual numbers if not for the injuries. Note that the source article’s suggestion that he “might be hiding pain the way Roki Sasaki did” is purely the reporter’s speculation, not something Ohtani himself has confirmed.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[MLB] Ohtani’s Trophyless 9th MLB Season, MVP All but Gone… Season Stats Finalized — 6th Straight 30-HR Year, But Down Across the Board… 5-for-21 with 8 Ks Since Returning from IL.”

  • Fujinami Shintaro, cut from next season’s plans, wants to stay in NPB — ‘I got my own pitching style back,’ confident in his comeback

    Shintaro Fujinami, reportedly set to be cut from DeNA’s plans for next season, started against the Giants on September 27 in what was the farm team’s final game of the season, and was pulled after allowing 5 runs (4 earned) in 3 innings. Despite going the whole season without a single first-team appearance amid reports that he’s being left out of next year’s plans, Fujinami commented that “toward the end, I got my own pitching style back,” signaling his desire to continue his NPB career. Fujinami joined Hanshin as the team’s first-round pick in the 2012 draft, and is known as a pitcher who pairs a blazing fastball with chronic control problems; he also has MLB experience after moving to the United States. On a 5channel thread, users traded predictions about which team might sign him next season and debated his current velocity, with opinions split over how to take his upbeat comments.

    DeNA’s Fujinami Shintaro, left out of next season’s plans, allows 5 runs in 3 innings in farm-team game — wants to keep playing in NPB. Winless in the majors this season, but says “toward the end, I got my own pitching style back”

    ◇Sept. 27, Farm League: DeNA 5–12 Giants (Giants Town)

    Shintaro Fujinami, who looks set to be cut from DeNA’s plans next season, started against the Giants in the farm team’s final game of the season, going 3 innings and allowing 5 runs (4 earned).

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    5AnonymousSep 28, 2026 00:39
    As expected, tiger stripes suit Fuji(nami) best (a nod to the Hanshin Tigers' striped uniform)
    52AnonymousSep 28, 2026 01:10
    Re: #5
    Yeah, you can feel that raging Tiger Spirit (Hanshin's fighting-spirit slogan) burning in him
    57AnonymousSep 28, 2026 01:18
    Re: #5
    Keeping him locked up on your own roster at least caps the injury risk, huh
    6AnonymousSep 28, 2026 00:41
    Giants sensei, we're counting on you
    7AnonymousSep 28, 2026 00:41
    'Pitching like himself' — you mean all those inside-high pitches sailing wild?
    9AnonymousSep 28, 2026 00:42
    Hanshin got rid of their headache, no way they're calling him back
    He could be a bad influence on the young guys too, and he definitely wouldn't mesh with guys like Chikamoto, Otake, or Morishita
    10AnonymousSep 28, 2026 00:43
    Probably the Giants
    That's likely why they had him pitch against the Giants as a demonstration
    11AnonymousSep 28, 2026 00:43
    I dunno… a fastball must just be that appealing
    Even with this bad an image, some team's still willing to take a chance on him
    Honestly though, I'm thinking — just stop already
    12AnonymousSep 28, 2026 00:43
    >Toward the end I got my own pitching style back
    Being this weirdly upbeat about it… I honestly can't tell if his mentality is weak or strong.
    18AnonymousSep 28, 2026 00:45
    Probably Oisix Niigata (Albirex BC, an independent league team)
    They seem like the type to collect well-known names
    19AnonymousSep 28, 2026 00:46
    Yoshii would probably say no
    Carp maybe, but only if they end up short on pitchers?
    48AnonymousSep 28, 2026 01:01
    Re: #19
    Yeah, Tokota and Morishita look like they might leave via free agency anyway
    21AnonymousSep 28, 2026 00:46
    A team struggling for starters — Lotte, Rakuten, or Orix — seems likely to pick him up…
    24AnonymousSep 28, 2026 00:47
    Why's his self-evaluation so high lol
    26AnonymousSep 28, 2026 00:47
    Must be nice being in that eternal gravy-train cycle
    He's always been overrated, and people keep saying 'if he could just fix it, he'd have one shot' — but even back when he WAS fixed, he was never actually dominant
    28AnonymousSep 28, 2026 00:49
    Re: #26
    Guy's been living off potential and romance alone
    No idea when he's finally gonna retire though
    30AnonymousSep 28, 2026 00:49
    Even if he fixed his control, his fastball isn't anything special speed-wise anymore either
    He's at a level where he'd get hit normally by guys who've been stuck rotting in the Giants' farm system for years
    31AnonymousSep 28, 2026 00:50
    Is there even a team that'd pick him up in the tryout draft?
    32AnonymousSep 28, 2026 00:50
    Chunichi signing him and throwing him against DeNA would be the most natural storyline
    33AnonymousSep 28, 2026 00:51
    Keeping him cheap and shelved so no other team could poach him — that was DeNA's whole deal
    But he can't even hack it in the majors anymore, so nobody's gonna take him
    34AnonymousSep 28, 2026 00:51
    Didn't think he'd be this naive about it
    35AnonymousSep 28, 2026 00:54
    Giants sign him and it's DEATH for Morishita and Oyama
    37AnonymousSep 28, 2026 00:55
    His slider just sails on him
    Might honestly be better off switching to an underhand delivery at this point
    40AnonymousSep 28, 2026 00:57
    Feels like there ought to be some job out there that could use 'the ability to throw a roughly 150-gram object at 160 km/h in a somewhat random direction'
    There are that many jobs in the world, after all
    66AnonymousSep 28, 2026 01:26
    Re: #40
    Naan or pizza maker — he could probably fling the dough at a wall and stretch it to just the right size
    91AnonymousSep 28, 2026 01:49
    Re: #40
    How about the Ground Self-Defense Force
    A grenade weighs about that much I think
    49AnonymousSep 28, 2026 01:02
    Honestly this is a lost cause
    56AnonymousSep 28, 2026 01:16
    It's such a waste — things were fine right up until Kuroda chewed him out
    64AnonymousSep 28, 2026 01:24
    Re: #56
    Guess his only hope is getting rebuilt by Coach Kuroda over at the Carp…
    73AnonymousSep 28, 2026 01:31
    Re: #56
    There he goes blaming someone else again
    67AnonymousSep 28, 2026 01:27
    Did his velocity drop? What's he throwing now?

    He's only 'him' because of that high-octane inside-high heat
    72AnonymousSep 28, 2026 01:29
    Re: #67
    Tops out at 154 km/h, so he's still got plenty in the tank
    83AnonymousSep 28, 2026 01:43
    My guess is some tendons are torn — when he throws full-effort, he can't control the ball
    It flies up or to the right, meaning straight at right-handed batters' heads
    In his own mind he probably thinks he's got it under control, but there's nothing he can do
    90AnonymousSep 28, 2026 01:47
    Re: #83
    Kind of like Mima's retirement game, huh (Mima Manabu, a pitcher remembered for late-career control issues)

    Background and talking points

    Since joining Hanshin as the team’s first-round pick in the 2012 draft, Fujinami has been a pitcher who wielded a blazing fastball as his weapon while continually battling control problems, and he also has MLB experience dating back to 2023. This “left out of plans” report suggests he may not be kept on next season’s registered roster, and whether he actually remains in NPB now depends on other teams’ decisions. Several predictions about his next destination came up in the thread, but it’s worth noting that none of them are backed by solid information — they remain speculation. According to posts in the thread, his fastball tops out at around 154 km/h, and the fact that the focus is on his control rather than velocity itself lines up with points raised in previous coverage. The thread showed a split in tone between those willing to take his upbeat comments at face value and those taking a harsher view that his results don’t back it up.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Geisoku+) thread “[Baseball] DeNA’s Fujinami Shintaro, left out of next season’s plans, wants to continue in NPB: “Toward the end I got my own pitching style back” — confident in his comeback.”