Category: Baseball

  • Hiroshima’s Kozono Leaves Fans Baffled With Listless Press-Conference Attitude — “Don’t Sulk,” “Has He Given Up?”… Manager Arai’s Painful Remark Deepens the Rift

    The press conference held by Kaito Kozono after being released by the Hiroshima Carp has become a hot topic. On top of his sudden fall from grace after a strong season the year before, his flat, unemotional demeanor during the Q&A was read by many as “listless” or “sulking,” leaving fans puzzled. Reports also noted that at the conference he denied involvement with so-called “zombie cigarettes” (slang for illegal e-cigarettes laced with synthetic compounds) and with anti-social forces (a common Japanese term for organized crime groups). On the forum thread, opinion split not only over whether his attitude really was “listless,” but also over whether a release notice like this should be understood as an outright “firing” or merely the “dissolution of a contractual trust relationship.”

    Video of the press conference

    Hiroshima’s Kozono Stuns Fans With “Listless Attitude” at Press Conference — “Don’t Sulk,” “Has He Given Up?”… Manager Arai’s Painful Remark Deepens the Rift

    Kaito Kozono of the Hiroshima Carp, who was handed a release notice, is making headlines not just for his sudden one-year collapse but also for the poor “attitude” he showed during the Q&A.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:27
    Re: #1
    According to him
    he has zero involvement with "zombie cigarettes" or anti-social forces, apparently lol
    5AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:28
    Re: #1
    Baseball really does feel like a dying genre these days
    6AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:28
    What about the manager's responsibility?
    51AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:51
    Re: #6
    I just wanna quiiiiit——!!
    13AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:32
    Even a fake cry as a joke would fool some of the dumber fans—wait, is this guy for real?
    34AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:45
    Re: #13
    People dumb enough to watch baseball come in levels of stupid beyond imagination
    they'll believe even a guy like this is innocent…
    14AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:33
    Baseball ("yakyuu," a derisive nickname some use for the sport) is nothing but gloomy news lately
    21AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:37
    Re: #14
    That's because he's the one holding the press conference
    15AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:34
    19AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:37
    Re: #15
    Stuff like this—do other teams and players do it too?
    18AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:37
    There's no evidence at all
    and yet some people are branding him a villain purely on vibes
    that's just insane
    they probably believe in trial by boiling water (kugatachi, an ancient Japanese ordeal) and witch trials too
    32AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:43
    Gotta give baseball credit for actually holding proper press conferences
    soccer just covers everything up, and when caught goes "Didn't disclose it? That's our call, isn't it?"
    a shamelessly rotten attitude you wouldn't expect from a public-interest incorporated foundation
    38AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:47
    Re: #32
    That's just because baseball players keep causing incidents serious enough to need a press conference in the first place
    there are plenty of baseball incidents that never got a press conference either
    37AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:47
    Realistically, teams would be lining up for Kozono
    even if Japanese clubs pass on him for compliance reasons
    the majors would come calling
    45AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:49
    Re: #37
    No way MLB comes calling for someone at Kozono's level, you're way overrating him
    42AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:48
    Re: #38
    It's just that he lost the team's trust, that's all
    47AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:50
    Re: #44
    Right now it's just that he lost the team's trust, and he's still holding a press conference over it
    53AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:51
    Technically everyone's still presumed innocent
    but that doesn't mean nobody can make sense of the release notice
    56AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:53
    Re: #53
    The Carp probably have evidence and already talked it over with the player
    otherwise he'd normally be suing for wrongful dismissal
    54AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:52
    Re: #46
    Of course the contract's been terminated, so what's your point?
    There's no one left who can force him to, but holding the press conference is his own choice, and it's just part of baseball culture
    60AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:55
    Re: #56
    Lying is a dealbreaker though
    Nanako Fujita got fired for that too
    62AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:55
    Re: #58
    Actually counter it properly
    what are you even saying?
    63AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:56
    Arm wrapped tight around the shoulder, looks pretty cozy lol
    https://i0.wp.com/geitopi.com/wp-content/uploads/2026071706-1.jpg
    69AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:58
    Re: #64
    I'm just saying he held a proper press conference, I never said anything like that
    whether he actually did anything illegal, I have no idea
    70AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:58
    Re: #66
    I don't get what you're trying to say
    just spit it out
    81AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:02
    Sure his attitude was flat, but I don't think he was sulking or being listless at all
    83AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:03
    Re: #81
    If anything, Yamamuro's the one being listless about it
    82AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:03
    Re: #78
    If he was lying, then it's entirely possible
    Nanako Fujita got fired over exactly that, didn't she?
    91AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:08
    Re: #82
    The reason for the firing was "because she lied"
    it's not some vague "trust relationship" thing, right?
    95AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:11
    Re: #91
    If she lied, trust obviously gets lost
    I'm saying it's the same as Nanako Fujita, don't you get it?
    Fujita wasn't doing anything illegal either
    that's just what happens when you lie
    96AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:11
    Re: #91
    Correction
    the reason for the firing wasn't "because she lied"
    it's "she had used zombie cigarettes or had ties to anti-social forces, and lied about that specific point"
    that's the accurate version

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    A “release notice” is the procedure Japanese pro baseball (NPB) clubs use each autumn to announce they will not renew a player’s contract, and it’s not unusual for this to apply even to a player like Kozono who was performing well just the year before. The “zombie cigarettes” mentioned at the press conference is slang for highly illegal e-cigarette products laced with synthetic compounds, an issue that has been reported on in pro baseball circles in recent years as an illicit-vaping problem. Opinion on the thread split mainly over two points. First, whether his attitude at the press conference was really “listless” at all (some pushed back, arguing he was simply calm and matter-of-fact). Second, whether a release notice can be framed the same way as an ordinary “firing,” with the debate dragging on due to differing views on the nature of the contractual relationship between a club and a player. It’s also worth noting that he has denied any involvement in the allegations, and the facts of the matter have not been established at this point.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Baseball] Hiroshima’s Kozono Leaves Fans Baffled With Listless Press-Conference Attitude — “Don’t Sulk,” “Has He Given Up?”… Manager Arai’s Painful Remark Deepens the Rift.”

  • Giants’ Bats Go Silent at Jingu Stadium — 5ch: ‘Nakagawa Just Doesn’t Want to Be the Scapegoat’

    This is a 5ch live-thread about the Giants–Swallows game played at Jingu Stadium on October 2. The thread title is “Giants Acting Manager 161,” the 161st installment in an ongoing series. With the Giants’ lineup struggling at the plate, commenters who appeared to be Swallows fans fired off harsh lines like “They just can’t hit” and “Did they even practice?” The game also carried weight for the Central League pennant race — midway through the thread someone posted an image of the title-race standings, and there was buzz over Swallows starter Nakagawa being described as pitching not to win, but simply to avoid becoming the game’s “scapegoat.”

    1AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:39
    Previous thread
    Giants Acting Manager 160
    3AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:39
    Jingu Stadium
    Starting Lineups
    【Giants】 【Swallows】
    9 Hirayama    6 Nagaoka
    8 Matsumoto    8 Iwata
    6 Izumiguchi    9 Masuda
    2 Oshiro    3 Yamada
    5 Richard  7 Nishimura
    4 Yoshikawa    4 Tanaka
    3 Masuda Riku   5 Matsushita
    7 Sasahara    2 Suzuki Kanau
    1 Yamazaki    1 Yamano
    5AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:42
    They just can't hit at all.
    14AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:51
    Re: #5
    Did you guys even show up to practice?
    6AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:46
    Central League pennant race standings (as of October 1)
    11AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:50
    Re: #6
    A draw today is basically a loss.
    7AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:47
    This isn't the usual Swallows…
    they're actually trying for once.
    8AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:47
    Wheeler: "We want everyone to come at them together and win."

    Not a word about breaking down their pitcher.
    He's seriously not thinking about anything.
    10AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:49
    Can't picture Kenshin and Raidel putting out this fire.
    16AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:52
    The Urata of right now would've caught up to that — no way Naoki can with his bad hip.
    22AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:55
    Japan's national volleyball team is getting overshadowed by the Hanshin Tigers.
    23AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:57
    The games-back gap stays the same, but the magic number still shrinks.
    If they can't shut this down, Nakagawa becomes the scapegoat.
    24AnonymousOct 2, 2026 19:58
    Not fighting out of a desire to win—
    Nakagawa's grinding it out just so he doesn't become the scapegoat.
    47AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:11
    These Giants fanboys ('Kyojin-kasu,' a mocking nickname for Giants fans) won't let up.
    Hurry up and lose already! Then our team's magic number hits 1 lol
    51AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:12
    Haven't seen George get a hit in a while.
    53AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:12
    Oh, so it's "Monkey" instead of Sakamoto…
    no wonder they're walking Maru then.
    57AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:14
    I hate this chant, it smells like a Hiroshima (Carp) chant 😠
    60AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:15
    Re: #57
    Then what chant DO you like?
    74AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:17
    Takatsu's probably feeling a real kinship watching how Hashigami uses his pinch hitters.
    79AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:17
    81AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:17
    Whoa, they even sell towels that huge?
    83AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:18
    Hirayama's got a face just like Takatsu's lol
    84AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:18
    This chant's such a downer, let's drop it lol
    89AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:19
    Re: #84
    So what WOULD be good, then?
    96AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:20
    Re: #89
    Guess it's "Go Get the Win" since we're in the late innings
    98AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:20
    Re: #89
    Drop dead, Yomiuri — c'mon, let's go, let's go!
    85AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:18
    Is the guy from the post-75 image not even here?
    That's why we drew again yesterday and the magic number barely moved.
    87AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:19
    Strikeout, I bet (´・ω・`)
    101AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:20
    Re: #87
    Tough luck, huh.
    195AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:30
    Our team's offense has a total bowel obstruction.
    203AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:31
    Re: #195
    Just take some Daikenchuto (a herbal remedy for bowel issues).

    Background and Talking Points

    The thread title “Giants Acting Manager 161” is the name of a running series of live-threads numbered sequentially, with the name apparently reflecting whoever was in charge of the Giants’ dugout at the time of posting. In the Central League pennant race, whether the first-place team wins or draws changes how fast the “magic number” ticks down, so for teams below first place, the leader’s result matters just as much as their own. Terms like “Kyojin-kasu” and “Chin-kasu” (mocking nicknames aimed at Giants and Chunichi fans, respectively) fly around in the thread — these are stock insults long used in 5ch/2ch baseball live-threads to needle rival teams’ fans, and are different in nature from discriminatory language aimed at protected groups. The phrase “our team” (waga-gun) is live-thread shorthand for whichever team the poster is rooting for, and context suggests these posters were backing the Swallows. Both the frustration over the Giants’ lineup going cold and the description of Swallows starter Nakagawa as pitching “not to win, but to avoid being the scapegoat” reflect how commenters were thinking less about this single game and more about the long haul of the pennant race.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Giants Acting Manager 161.”

  • Kadonaka’s Retirement Game: Hawks Rally for 7th Straight Win as Yudai Yamamoto’s 3-Run Homer Seals It

    On October 2, the Pacific League game at Lotte’s home stadium against SoftBank was held as the retirement game for Lotte’s veteran outfielder Katsuya Kadonaka. The Hawks came back to win, 4-3 (M3-4H), stretching their winning streak to seven. In the 9th inning, pinch hitter Yudai Yamamoto hit his 6th home run of the season — a go-ahead 3-run shot — while Lotte closer Rikuto Yokoyama blew the save. On 5ch’s live-game thread, the home-plate umpire’s call during Kensuke Kondo’s 9th-inning at-bat, which set up the comeback, sparked controversy, and fans also compared the day’s events to other teams’ retirement ceremonies held the same day.

    SoftBank  1 0 0  0 0 0  0 0 3|4

    Lotte     0 0 0  1 0 0  0 2 X|3

    [Battery]

    Source: nikkansports.com / Original article here

    4AnonymousOct 2, 2026 21:08
    Just witnessed a brutal blown call (5ch slang: "toilet umpire," for a terrible ump). And that's how they won.
    8AnonymousOct 2, 2026 21:10
    Kind of sad that this is what he had to watch on his own retirement day.
    12AnonymousOct 2, 2026 21:10
    Brutal.
    This is what you get on a retirement day?
    36AnonymousOct 2, 2026 21:17
    Re: #12
    Orix's Hirano retirement game was way worse than this
    They gave up 6 runs in the first inning and the result was already decided
    By 6:30 PM
    it was just a matter of waiting for Hirano to come out
    14AnonymousOct 2, 2026 21:11
    Re: #10
    Kokubo's trash too for leaving Maeda in through the 8th when he wasn't even getting the win
    15AnonymousOct 2, 2026 21:11
    Hakata Hanamaru once said: "A lot of people nationwide dislike the Hawks, so I don't bring up the Hawks on national TV."

    A line from "Downtown's Bar-Hopping" a few years back

    If you've ever left Fukuoka, you'll understand this reality
    37AnonymousOct 2, 2026 21:17
    Lotte's battery's pitch-calling was awful
    39AnonymousOct 2, 2026 21:17
    This is what happens when you don't hold Kadonaka's and Karakawa's retirement games together
    They just embarrassed themselves lol
    40AnonymousOct 2, 2026 21:17
    Imagine the Baystars trading away a catcher who can hit like that
    46AnonymousOct 2, 2026 21:20
    Re: #3
    Yudai Yamamoto:
    "Did you see my go-ahead 3-run homer?!"
    49AnonymousOct 2, 2026 21:22
    Kondo took a called strike three in the 9th
    There was no comeback

    The toilet-umpire is garbage
    50AnonymousOct 2, 2026 21:23
    The umpire who turned Kondo's strikeout into a walk should not be forgiven
    51AnonymousOct 2, 2026 21:24
    If they wanted to get Maeda Yu the win by leaving him in through the 8th, they should've let him finish the 8th properly
    52AnonymousOct 2, 2026 21:26
    Yudai Yamamoto just got to the Pacific League, so he probably has no clue who Kadonaka even is
    57AnonymousOct 2, 2026 21:35
    Toilet-umpire strikes again

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    This game served as the retirement ceremony for Lotte’s veteran outfielder Katsuya Kadonaka, taking place at a point when the Pacific League pennant race had already been decided in SoftBank’s favor. Against that backdrop, pinch hitter Yudai Yamamoto hit a go-ahead 3-run homer late in the game that decided the outcome. Where opinions split on the thread was the umpire’s call during Kensuke Kondo’s 9th-inning at-bat — fans disagreed over whether it should have been a strikeout or a walk. Since this kind of close call is hard to judge definitively from broadcast footage alone, this article only notes the fact that “the call sparked controversy” and withholds judgment on which side was right. It was also noted that Kadonaka wasn’t the only one retiring that day — his teammate, pitcher Yuki Karakawa, had his own retirement game too, and fans discussed how several teams held retirement ceremonies on the same day. The blown save by Lotte closer Rikuto Yokoyama could also affect how the bullpen is used down the stretch of the season.

    *This article excerpts and summarizes the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Kadonaka’s Retirement Game] Pacific League M 3-4 H [10/2] Hawks Rally for 7th Straight Win! Yamamoto’s 6th Homer a Go-Ahead 3-Run Shot! Lotte’s Yokoyama Blows the Save.”

  • Hiroshima ‘Also Explored Trading Kozono to Hanshin’ — Carp Cut 4 Players, Citing ‘Inability to Build Trust’

    On October 1, the Hiroshima Toyo Carp notified four players — Kaito Kozono, Masaya Yano, Seita Maekawa, and Shunsuke Tamura — that their contracts would not be renewed for next season. The list includes last year’s batting champion Kozono and Yano, a Golden Glove winner two years prior, which raised eyebrows given the backdrop: a scandal involving former player Ryutaro Hazuki, who was arrested and convicted for using the designated drug etomidate, known as “zombie cigarettes.” The team cited an “inability to build trust” as the reason, but on 5channel, rumors swirled that a trade sending Kozono to the Hanshin Tigers had been under discussion behind the scenes, sparking debate over whether the decision was fair and where the players might land next.

    Amid the ongoing “zombie cigarette” scandal, with investigations and fact-finding still underway, the team made the harsh call not to renew contracts with four players for next season.

    On October 1, the Hiroshima Carp announced that infielders Kaito Kozono, Masaya Yano, and Seita Maekawa, along with outfielder Shunsuke Tamura, would not have their contracts renewed for next season. Kozono won the batting title last year and also topped the league in on-base percentage, while Yano took home a Golden Glove award the year before. News that core Hiroshima players were being released sent shockwaves through fans.

    Dark clouds had been gathering over Hiroshima’s season even before it began. In January, former player Ryutaro Hazuki, who had been with the team through the previous season, was arrested on suspicion of violating the Pharmaceutical and Medical Device Act by using the designated drug etomidate — known as “zombie cigarettes.” At his first hearing in May, he admitted to the charges and was convicted.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:03
    A trash organization that only cares about keeping up appearances
    4AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:03
    We don't take damaged goods here!!
    Go try a newspaper-owned team in Aichi or Tokyo (i.e. the Chunichi Dragons or Yomiuri Giants, both owned by newspaper companies)
    18AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:12
    If this actually happens, it'll be a disgrace on the level of the Matsunaga scandal
    19AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:12
    Kozono probably wanted this himself
    he's a Hanshin fan after all
    56AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:24
    Re: #19
    Unfortunately, he's actually a 'Kyokasu' (derisive slang for a Yomiuri Giants fan)
    21AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:13
    Isn't this a chance for other teams to pick up talent? Are there any promising players in Hiroshima worth targeting?
    22AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:13
    Kozono's got his sights on the majors, right?
    91AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:35
    Re: #22
    No MLB team wants a singles hitter like that
    it's not like his speed or defense stand out either
    23AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:13
    The only team that would take on a guy like this
    is that traditional 'black-suited gentlemen' ballclub
    24AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:13
    Kozono was the batting champ last year and a tough at-bat, but his defense at shortstop is garbage
    no team's taking on that kind of risk for him
    26AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:13
    Judging by that press conference, even signing him would tank the team's mood — a net negative
    29AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:13
    Even after the dust settled, there's been no talk of Anraku returning to Japan
    is Kozono actually free to sign with another team right now?
    30AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:14
    Making money off some made-up story just because it's the kind of thing that never comes out publicly?
    31AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:14
    Hanshin was this close to landing a reinforcement
    32AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:15
    The team that keeps saying 'Be gentlemen!' will be the one to sign him lol
    33AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:15
    Re: #1
    Why not try challenging the majors? There's bound to be a team willing to take a chance on him

    I doubt it
    He's got no power
    Best case scenario, maybe Mexico?
    46AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:20
    You'd have to be out of your mind to think Kozono could cut it in the majors
    His career-best OPS is .753
    Going by past examples, he'd be lucky to even hit the .600s over there
    No team is taking a player like that
    And how much longer is Emoto going to keep doing commentary anyway?
    48AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:22
    Re: #46
    To begin with, not being able to play defense is a dealbreaker in MLB
    unless you've got overwhelming power to make up for it
    52AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:23
    This just looks like Hiroshima trying to dodge accountability in advance, in case this turns into a real scandal later
    76AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:30
    Re: #52
    Yeah, that's obviously the only explanation if you think about it normally
    that's exactly why they carefully worded it as 'no trust'
    73AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:29
    MLB is strict on violence but soft on drugs
    Still, I don't think Kozono would cut it over there
    77AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:30
    Re: #73
    Wasn't he banned for steroids?
    84AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:33
    Re: #77
    Guys like Tatis Jr. came right back like nothing happened though
    89AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:34
    Re: #77
    MLB is lenient when it comes to drugs
    Josh Hamilton, back when he was with the Rangers, went through the team's rehab program and came back to put up real results too
    80AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:31
    There's this vibe that it's fine as long as it's Hanshin
    87AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:34
    Re: #80
    If anything, SoftBank and the Giants are more lenient
    102AnonymousOct 2, 2026 20:38
    Re: #1

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    “Zombie cigarettes” is the street name for etomidate, an anesthetic classified as a designated drug under Japan’s Pharmaceutical and Medical Device Act. Former player Ryutaro Hazuki was arrested in January for using it, and at his first hearing in May he admitted to the charges and was convicted. It’s worth noting — and easy to overlook — that the four players released this time were not themselves charged with any drug offense; the team emphasized “an inability to build trust,” not drug use, as its reason. Kozono himself, at the press conference following his release, explicitly denied any involvement with illegal drugs or organized crime. Opinions in the thread were split: some argued other teams would be hesitant to sign him for fear new facts might surface after the fact, while others pointed to MLB’s more lenient drug policies compared to Japan’s as opening the door to a possible overseas move. Some commenters likened it to past “Black Mist” scandals in Japanese baseball history, reflecting the broader difficulty of how to treat players who remain only under suspicion.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5channel (Geisoku+) thread “[Zombie Cigarettes] Hiroshima ‘Also Considered Trading Kozono to Hanshin’ — Team Declares Four Players Non-Tendered Over ‘Inability to Build Trust’ [Ailuropoda melanoleuca★].”

  • Kaito Kozono’s Contract Terminated: 11 Teams Can’t Figure Out What Salary Wouldn’t Be Insulting

    The Hiroshima Toyo Carp terminated the contract of infielder Kaito Kozono (this season’s salary: ¥150 million), and a 5ch thread picked up on a tricky question: teams considering signing him have no idea what salary to offer. Kozono himself denies allegations of ties to organized crime (so-called “anti-social forces”), and while the club hasn’t presented concrete evidence and he hasn’t even been referred to prosecutors, the team cited an inability to “build a relationship of trust” as grounds for the release. In the thread, opinions split over how serious a release over conduct issues really is, what a fair salary would look like, and how this compares to past players who ran into similar trouble.

    1AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:43
    Somewhere around ¥50 million?
    5AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:46
    Kozono's so deeply, truly remorseful… so why?
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OjJIJYYkWVs
    9AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:49
    Eh, don't sweat it — the almighty SoftBank Hawks will scoop him up for like ¥200 million.
    46AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:22
    Re: #9
    Use him where, though?
    10AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:53
    Any sane team would be too scared to touch him.
    This release was the kind where Hiroshima basically threw up their hands and gave up on him.
    Getting cut for "can't build a relationship of trust"
    is way harsher than just being told you're surplus to needs or outside the team's plans.

    Even his influencer wife felt enough legal risk
    to go ahead and divorce him.
    13AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:55
    Re: #10
    Forget athlete — this is "disqualified as a human being" territory, right?
    15AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:57
    Re: #10
    Kozono was hyped as a huge draft prospect, and I'm pretty sure his high school coach gushed about how he was such a hard worker that a practice-heavy team like Hiroshima would suit him perfectly. Where did it all go wrong?
    20AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:59
    Re: #10
    He reportedly told the team during questioning that he "didn't know anything about the zombie thing" (a slang term for a certain synthetic drug), then got busted when a photo surfaced.
    21AnonymousOct 2, 2026 10:59
    Didn't we used to believe that for baseball players, results on the field are everything and what they do off the field doesn't matter?

    Back in the day, pro baseball fans used to criticize the people who criticized players' off-field behavior like this.
    26AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:03
    Re: #21
    That mindset is gone in Japan now, and not just in baseball.
    Even Hitoshi Matsumoto (Japan's biggest comedian) got taken down by it.
    60AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:28
    Re: #21
    Everything changed after COVID.
    66AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:31
    Re: #21
    People did generally criticize it back then too — it's just that the die-hard fans were the ones going "Don't cut him if he's still useful on the field!"
    27AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:04
    Everyone's going to respect Hiroshima's call and just pass on him.
    It's the Mexican League for Kozono now.
    29AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:06
    Re: #27
    Honestly I'd love to see some team sign him anyway and then have the "zombie" thing blow up on them.
    28AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:05
    Feels like they lumped Kozono into the roster cuts just to patch up the team's image.
    Meanwhile the coaching staff had been playing him in the minors all along like he was still part of next year's plans.
    32AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:12
    Re: #28
    Right now they've drained the pus, but the sac that was holding it is still there.
    Unless they remove the sac (the owner), it's just going to happen again.
    33AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:13
    If a team signs him, that's disrespectful to the Carp, who made the heartbreaking call to cut him in the first place.
    37AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:15
    Re: #33
    It'd be a rescue for an innocent young guy whose baseball career got shut down on a "guilty until proven innocent" basis — same as Yamakawa. He passes.
    40AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:18
    It'd be hilarious if he went overseas and ended up on the same team as Trevor Bauer.
    Not that I have any clue where Bauer's even playing these days.
    71AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:32
    Re: #40
    Wasn't there literally just news about him in a traffic accident, lol
    47AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:22
    Hanshin, seriously just sign the guy already.
    I don't want to look at the "Acorns" (a mocking nickname for Hanshin's current undersized infield) anymore.
    67AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:31
    Re: #47
    What Hanshin actually needs is someone who can field, so it'd be Yano, not him.
    Kozono's shortstop defense is basically the same as Motoyama's.
    54AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:27
    By the way, remember Norihiro Nakamura:
    Chunichi — ¥4 million development deal → promoted to the active roster at ¥6 million
    Then the following year, ¥50 million

    Something like that would be fine, right?
    112AnonymousOct 2, 2026 12:06
    Re: #54
    Yeah, but Nori didn't actually do anything wrong.
    56AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:27
    I think it'd work out just right if all four of them (five if you count Hazuki) joined Hayate 223 (an independent pro team outside NPB).
    They'd definitely be useful there, and it'd balance out the farm-team power dynamics.
    61AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:29
    Re: #56
    Ever heard of "corporate image"?
    64AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:30
    The organized-crime and drug stuff are still just allegations, but the affair and divorce are facts.
    That alone already makes this bad.
    69AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:32
    Re: #64
    At that rate about half of all pro baseball players would disappear.
    80AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:37
    He's flatly denying it, and the team doesn't have evidence either.
    It really just comes down to whether prosecutors decide to indict — and if they don't, Kozono ends up looking like the victim here.
    His situation's different from the two guys who actually had their homes raided, I'd think, but somehow both cases ended in contract termination.
    83AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:40
    Re: #80
    It's a trust issue, plain and simple.
    "No proof of guilt" isn't the same as "proven innocent," so it can't be helped.
    92AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:48
    Re: #80
    Kozono hasn't even been referred to prosecutors, though.
    122AnonymousOct 2, 2026 12:09
    Re: #80
    Technically speaking, isn't this
    not a mid-contract termination,
    but just an ordinary free-agent release
    during the normal roster-cut notice period, same as any other team?
    89AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:46
    If a team signs him, wouldn't organized crime come around to threaten the club?
    90AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:47
    Re: #89
    If that happens, just cut him then.
    95AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:49
    Honestly, he'll probably have teams lining up for him.
    Every club must want him so bad it hurts.
    Conduct problems clear up fast anyway.
    102AnonymousOct 2, 2026 11:58
    Re: #95
    Still, he's basically a third-base-only guy with this level of hitting — is he really worth stretching for?
    111AnonymousOct 2, 2026 12:06
    Re: #95
    Conduct problems never actually go away.
    Just look at Kiyota.
    110AnonymousOct 2, 2026 12:05
    Bauer, kicking his bat like that, knew everything all along.
    117AnonymousOct 2, 2026 12:08
    Re: #110
    Both Hazuki and Kozono ending up like this — whoever called that had some serious foresight.

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Kozono had been under contract this season at a salary of ¥150 million, but Hiroshima went ahead and terminated it, citing an inability to “build a relationship of trust.” He denies the allegations, the club hasn’t presented concrete evidence, and — as the thread itself points out — he hasn’t even been referred to prosecutors. In other words, “no referral, no indictment” doesn’t mean the allegations have been cleared; what the club prioritized wasn’t legal guilt but the breakdown of trust, a distinction readers can easily conflate. Where the thread split was over whether conduct problems get overwritten by on-field talent, or whether — as in past similar cases — they end up casting a long shadow. On the question of a fair salary, concrete figures like “around ¥50 million” came up, while others took a harsher view by citing the past pay-cut case of Norihiro Nakamura — all reflecting the fact that there’s no settled consensus on his market value.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyou G) thread “11 teams unsure “how much would be insulting to offer” Kaito Kozono (this season’s salary ¥150 million)”.

  • Giants Silenced by Hanshin’s Murakami — Bases Loaded, Zero Runs, Fans Cry ‘Curse’

    This is a live thread for the October 1, 2026 Giants vs. Hanshin Tigers game at Koshien Stadium. Hanshin starter Shoki Murakami repeatedly let the Giants load the bases — no outs with the bases loaded, then no outs with runners on first and third — but escaped both jams without allowing a run, prompting a mix of awe and frustration in the thread: “Everyone’s really battling up there,” and “Getting shut down by Murakami is just pathetic.” This is already Murakami’s 8th start against the Giants this season, with some posters jokingly suggesting Hanshin manager Kyuji Fujikawa holds a personal “grudge” against the team. Overall, the thread reflected mounting frustration with a Giants lineup that keeps going silent against a sharp opposing pitcher.

    1AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:23
    Previous thread
    Giants Acting Manager Thread 157
    3AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:24
    Koshien Stadium
    Starting Lineups
    [Giants] [Hanshin]
    7 Maru 8 Chikamoto
    8 Matsumoto 4 Nakano
    6 Izumiguchi 9 Morishita
    2 Otaka 5 Sato
    5 Richard 3 Oyama
    4 Yoshikawa 7 Takadera
    3 Masuda Riku 2 Sakamoto
    9 Hirayama 2 Motoyama
    1 Taketaru 1 Murakami
    5AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:27
    Central League pennant race standings (as of September 30)
    9AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:33
    Former Chunichi Dragons manager Shigekazu Mori weighs in on the possibility of Masumi Kuwata becoming the next Dragons manager: "If they're really going to make a change…"
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/47c4e68fc6c39c92c309bb4319176eec6adf563d
    10AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:33
    Everyone's really battling up there.
    Even Richard managed to work him, so maybe Murakami's not that sharp today.
    11AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:33
    Murakami's low pitches are all balls — why does everyone keep swinging at them?
    14AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:35
    Murakami doesn't get hit, but lately he's been getting worn down and pulled around the 5th inning.
    17AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:36
    Despite facing that no-out, bases-loaded jam in the first inning ("ノーマン" is 5ch shorthand for a no-out, man-on jam), he's only thrown 22 pitches.
    32AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:40
    Guess last time really was just the Dragons being the Dragons (珍 is a derisive nickname for Chunichi).
    47AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:43
    That Giants at-bat right there was way too sloppy lol
    48AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:43
    We're probably the only team that gets smacked around by the Dragons' bottom of the order this easily (我が軍, "our army," is Giants fans' self-mocking nickname for their own team).
    53AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:44
    IT'S HERE━━━━(ᵒ∀ᵒ)━━━━!!
    65AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:46
    A MIRACLE IS HERE━━━━(ᵒ∀ᵒ)━━━━!!
    69AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:46
    ZERO, IT'S HERE━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━!!
    72AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:46
    False hope from the Dragons lmaoooooo (ぬか珍 = short for "premature celebration" + the Dragons' derisive nickname)
    76AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:46
    No outs, bases loaded, zero runs.
    No outs, runners on first and third, zero runs.
    77AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:46
    If they're still this bad against Hanshin next year too, there's no way the Giants win the pennant.
    87AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:49
    So this is already Murakami's 8th start against the Giants this season.
    Fujikawa's grudge against the Giants runs deep.
    98AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:53
    Re: #87
    If anything it's a gift from Fujikawa — who'd have guessed the same team still couldn't solve him by now.
    104AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:54
    Starts vs. the Giants
    8 Murakami
    7 Kanamaru
    7 Tamamura
    6 Ono
    6 Saiki
    6 Yamano
    106AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:55
    Re: #104
    Yamano's starting tomorrow, so that number's about to go up.
    153AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:01
    They should just be patient and work the count instead.
    163AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:01
    Re: #153
    Everything from the 5-hole down is garbage — zero runs looks all but certain.
    166AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:02
    The Giants go three-up-three-down while Hanshin gets a runner in scoring position every single inning?
    179AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:03
    Re: #166
    This has turned into a fun game.
    171AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:02
    His arm's got to be stronger than Hirayama's or Sasahara's, right?
    182AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:03
    Re: #171
    Both of them would probably just uncork a wild pitch lol
    174AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:02
    A heated contest over who gets the 'honor' of being humiliated by SoftBank.
    184AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:03
    Re: #174
    They'll just hand that honor off to the BayStars anyway.
    208AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:08
    I think there's a home run coming (said in the deadpan prediction style of comedian Tenshin Kimura)
    209AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:08
    Re: #208
    Seriously?!
    271AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:17
    Janpa is unreal (nickname used for a player in the thread)
    281AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:17
    Re: #271
    Totally whiffed on that call lol
    315AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:20
    If Hara were managing, he'd probably send in a pinch hitter here.
    323AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:21
    Re: #315
    Yeah, that kind of strategy makes sense at this point.
    367AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:28
    Getting shut down by Murakami is just pathetic.
    371AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:29
    Re: #367
    And yet — zero runs allowed lol

    Background and Key Points

    This game came in the late stages of a tight Central League pennant race as of September 30, with the Giants struggling against the pinpoint control of Hanshin starter Shoki Murakami. Posters in the thread pointed out that this was already Murakami’s 8th start against the Giants this season, highlighting a lopsided head-to-head record. The remark about Hanshin manager Kyuji Fujikawa holding a “grudge against the Giants” is a tongue-in-cheek guess from fans referencing his playing days facing the Giants’ lineup, not a documented real-life feud. The Giants twice advanced runners into scoring position — once with the bases loaded and no outs, once with runners on first and third and no outs — yet failed to score either time, drawing plenty of complaints about the lower order’s lack of support, alongside some praise for the pitching staff that kept the damage off the board. Whether to blame the sluggish lineup or credit the opposing pitching became the thread’s central point of disagreement.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello Project board) thread “Giants Acting Manager Thread 158.”

  • Carp Cut Ties with Kozono and Teammates — His Attitude Right After Sparks Outrage, Giants and SoftBank Floated as Possible New Teams

    On October 1, the Hiroshima Toyo Carp announced it would not renew contracts for next season with four players — Kaito Kozono, Masaya Yano, Shunsuke Tamura, and Seita Maekawa — who had been suspected of involvement in a scandal involving the designated drug etomidate (known as “zombie tobacco”). Kozono’s attitude during media interviews right after the release drew criticism online as “defiant,” and on the forum thread, teams like the Yomiuri Giants and SoftBank Hawks were floated as possible next destinations. At the same time, some called the move “a betrayal of the Carp,” while others brought up past cases involving Kazuhiro Kiyohara and Hotaka Yamakawa, debating whether signing him would be appropriate and how “tolerant” different teams are.

    《He seems totally unapologetic》 Hiroshima’s Kaito Kozono draws controversy over his demeanor right after his contract was terminated… two “tolerant” teams floated as possible next destinations

    The verdict has finally come down. On October 1, the Hiroshima Toyo Carp of Japan’s pro baseball league announced it would not sign four players — Kaito Kozono, Masaya Yano, Shunsuke Tamura, and Seita Maekawa — to contracts for next season, after they were suspected of involvement in a scandal surrounding the designated drug etomidate, known as “zombie tobacco.”

    His “attitude” during the media interview sparks controversy

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 2, 2026 01:38
    >The names Fukuoka SoftBank Hawks and Yomiuri Giants are coming up

    Figured as much lol
    4AnonymousOct 2, 2026 01:39
    Either team beats staying with the Carp, honestly.
    5AnonymousOct 2, 2026 01:41
    No way it's the Hawks
    If their infield situation were desperate enough to sign a guy like this, they wouldn't have let Mimori go two years ago.
    6AnonymousOct 2, 2026 01:42
    Here, have a Carp star! (´・ω・`) (riffing on the Carp fight-song line "bring back the Carp's star")
    7AnonymousOct 2, 2026 01:42
    In an age when everyone talks about compliance, this old showbiz-style culture is still hanging around?

    Whatever happened to sportsmanship and being a gentleman?
    Then again, I never thought baseball — a sport where guys casually throw punches in brawls — had any of that to begin with.
    9AnonymousOct 2, 2026 01:48
    If some team actually signs Kozono or Yano after this, that's way too disloyal to Hiroshima.
    It'd be a lucky transfer for them, and the Carp locker room would end up filled with zombie-tobacco smoke.
    10AnonymousOct 2, 2026 01:49
    Giants, probably.
    I mean, their manager once paid a yakuza guy 100 million yen.
    11AnonymousOct 2, 2026 01:49
    During a Giants game, a Hiroshima fan climbed the backstop netting at Hiroshima Stadium and hung a banner — and for some reason he was wearing yellow.
    12AnonymousOct 2, 2026 01:49
    If he wants to join the Hawks, it'd be on a developmental (ikusei) contract.
    If he's willing to start from the bottom and grind it out, they'd probably take him.
    18AnonymousOct 2, 2026 01:55
    No team's touching this guy.
    It'd tank their corporate image.
    36AnonymousOct 2, 2026 02:06
    Re: #18
    Yomiuri, Rakuten, SoftBank — none of them would even blink over signing Kozono.
    20AnonymousOct 2, 2026 01:57
    Looks like getting released might actually turn out to be a huge stroke of luck for Kozono lol
    21AnonymousOct 2, 2026 01:57
    The Giants, who let Kiyohara take part in alumni events, might actually go there.
    23AnonymousOct 2, 2026 01:59
    It's not so much "tolerant"
    as a team that puts winning above everything else.
    If it strengthens the roster,
    they'll bend the compliance rules a bit.
    24AnonymousOct 2, 2026 01:59
    The Giants are full of guys like that anyway, so it wouldn't make a difference.
    25AnonymousOct 2, 2026 01:59
    Other teams have probably already reached out to him.
    29AnonymousOct 2, 2026 02:03
    No team's going to move for a while. There's still a chance he gets referred to prosecutors.
    30AnonymousOct 2, 2026 02:04
    Actually, the team really desperate at shortstop isn't the Giants.
    It's the Tigers lol
    35AnonymousOct 2, 2026 02:06
    Re: #30
    I'd laugh if the Tigers signed him and gave him uniform number 6.
    31AnonymousOct 2, 2026 02:04
    They kept using him right up until they demoted him as punishment for lazy play, and now they're quick to toss him aside.
    33AnonymousOct 2, 2026 02:04
    Kadowaki isn't developing either, and Sakamoto's about done too.
    34AnonymousOct 2, 2026 02:04
    Kozono's defense at short is disqualifying-level bad and he's no good at third either, so Rakuten would be fine too.
    Moving him to the outfield and letting him focus would probably help his batting improve.
    37AnonymousOct 2, 2026 02:07
    Everyone's treating this like it's over, but Yamakawa did something awful and he's still playing pro ball like normal.
    Don't get so worked up about it. (reference to Hotaka Yamakawa's past scandal)
    39AnonymousOct 2, 2026 02:14
    Re: #1
    Huh, wait?
    He himself says he has nothing to do with the zombie tobacco or any antisocial groups, so why's he being let go?

    Why doesn't he sue the Carp?
    40AnonymousOct 2, 2026 02:15
    Kozono's probably got his own side of the story, no?
    It's not fair to call him attitude-bad one-sidedly without even hearing him out.
    42AnonymousOct 2, 2026 02:16
    Re: #40
    Sure, you can say whatever you want — but do you actually have something to say?
    41AnonymousOct 2, 2026 02:15
    Re: #36
    Rakuten cares about its image, so they probably won't sign him.
    Yomiuri and SoftBank's corporate images are already shot, so they probably won't care.
    65AnonymousOct 2, 2026 02:54
    Re: #41
    They've had one headache after another with guys like Anraku, Tanaka, Shimauchi, and Tatsumi…
    and they recently cut a promising young prospect without hesitation, so Rakuten's pretty much out of the question.
    44AnonymousOct 2, 2026 02:18
    In the actual video, his "yeah, that's right" came out as a drawn-out, slouchy "yeahhh, that's riiight" — his attitude was really bad.
    45AnonymousOct 2, 2026 02:22
    Kozono as Sakamoto's successor is way too on-the-nose for the Giants. I guess it'd technically solve their long-standing problem, but it'd be like taking on another Takahito Nomura.

    Background and key points of this discussion

    “Zombie tobacco” refers to e-cigarettes laced with the designated drug etomidate, so named because smoking it temporarily stiffens the body and induces a near-unconscious state. The substance is normally used as an anesthetic, and in recent years its abuse has spread among young people, becoming a social problem. In this case, four Hiroshima Carp players were suspected of involvement, and the team drew a line under the matter by declining to renew their contracts for next season — a “contract termination.” Unlike an NPB-wide ban or a suspension, contract termination doesn’t prevent other teams from signing the players as free agents under league rules, which is why names like the Giants and SoftBank — teams that tend to prioritize financial muscle and headline value — came up in the thread. What tends to get overlooked, though, is that the case could still be referred to prosecutors, meaning teams may not necessarily move quickly. Commenters also pointed to past cases involving Kazuhiro Kiyohara and Hotaka Yamakawa, noting there’s precedent for players quietly returning to the game after scandals blow over, making the lack of consistency in how pro baseball handles drug-related and other scandals a key point of debate.

    *This article is composed of excerpts and a summary from the 5ch (Entertainment/Sports News+) thread “[Baseball] 《He seems totally unapologetic》 Hiroshima’s Kaito Kozono draws controversy over his demeanor right after his contract was terminated… two tolerant teams floated as possible next destinations.”

  • Hanshin’s Magic Number Hits 2, Giants’ Comeback Title Hopes All But Dead — 5ch: ‘They Did Well to Get This Far With This Roster’

    On October 1, 2026, a 5ch thread about the Yomiuri Giants–Hanshin Tigers game blew up. With Hanshin’s magic number lighting up at “2,” a posted image was taken as confirmation that the Giants’ hopes of a comeback pennant were effectively dead. Fans piled on with questions about the decision to keep Kobayashi behind the plate the whole game without ever sending in a pinch hitter, along with frustration over the young position players’ lack of pop at the plate. At the same time, some praised the team’s effort this season, with comments like “I figured we’d finish in the bottom half before the season even started, but now I’m a little excited for next year” — making for a thread where disappointment and hope for next season mixed together.

    1AnonymousOct 1, 2026 22:53
    Previous thread
    Acting Giants Manager Thread #159
    11AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:00
    Yeah, no hitting power — that's why we couldn't keep up in the end.
    44AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:02
    Re: #11
    If we can't lock down the 3-4-5 spots in the lineup next year, we're never gonna be any good.
    23AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:01
    Leaving Kobayashi in there the whole game — that's not what a real competitor does.
    If that's the plan, send in Kai instead and keep Kobayashi in reserve.
    25AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:01
    Why can't they pinch-hit Sakamoto or somebody for Kobayashi?
    What's the point of even carrying a backup catcher?
    28AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:01
    No wonder the Giants fans in the stands are heading for the exits.
    29AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:01
    Is not pinch-hitting for Kobayashi basically throwing the game at that point?
    31AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:01
    Is he gonna go say his goodbyes out in left field at the end?
    Somebody throw a raw egg at him.
    32AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:01
    LMAOOOO the Giants ('Kyokasu') are done for wwwww (5ch slang 'Kyokasu' mocks the Giants as 'hollow/fake')
    64AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:05
    Here comes Hanshin's ('Chin') out machine (a mocking 5ch nickname for Hanshin)
    75AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:06
    Re: #64
    Is the real out machine gonna come over to NPB next year?
    83AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:06
    Mizui's grumbling about it lol
    88AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:06
    Re: #83
    Guess he got stuck sitting through a game like that.
    94AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:07
    I can't accept not pinch-hitting for Kobayashi there
    though yeah, even if they had, it probably still ends in a tie.
    103AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:08
    Re: #94
    Probably because if anything happened to Basama, there'd be no pitcher left who could take the mound.
    102AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:08
    Richard was the only one laughing lol
    131AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:15
    Re: #102
    Guy probably doesn't even understand the situation.
    115AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:11
    Honestly I don't get it, what's so good about Nishidate?
    143AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:17
    Re: #115
    Because he got the honor of being Yomiuri HQ's No. 1 draft pick.
    128AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:15
    He fields the comebacker to the mound, throws it away wild, and two runs come in.
    148AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:18
    Re: #128
    Aoyagi went through a phase like that too —
    kept airmailing throws to first
    on comebacker plays.
    The distance's so short it messes with his arm.
    129AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:15
    They already blew the pennant with 3 losses to the Zombies (a 5ch nickname for a rival team)
    138AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:16
    Re: #129
    That walk-off loss at Mazda Stadium killed the whole comeback-title mood.
    136AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:16
    Figured sending in a pinch runner for Oshima would backfire, and sure enough, watching it play out, it did.
    140AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:17
    Re: #136
    To be fair, if it had actually been Oshima himself, he wouldn't have gone to third.
    146AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:18
    They did well to get this far with this roster.
    Before the season started I figured they'd finish in the bottom half.
    Looking forward to next year a little now.
    150AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:19
    Re: #146
    Well, it's a new manager, so the front office will probably reinforce the roster quite a bit.
    Otherwise they wouldn't be cutting 9 developmental players.
    153AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:19
    Just turn next year's team into the 'Hiroshima Giants' already with Kozono, Sakakura, and Tokoda.
    159AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:20
    Re: #153
    And Reyes, Yoshida, and Seiya too.
    177AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:25
    【Central League Pennant Race, as of end of play Oct. 1】

    With the Hanshin–Giants game ending in a tie, Hanshin's magic number drops to 2!!!
    The earliest possible clinch date is now Saturday the 3rd; clinching on a travel day is no longer possible.

    If Hanshin goes .500 (3-2) over their remaining games…
    🐰 The Giants cannot win the pennant

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HTjMlHCaQAApJw9.jpg
    178AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:25
    If Kozono stays in the Central League, our team's just gonna get beat by him again.
    179AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:26
    We don't need Kozono.
    Yano at least seems like he's shown some remorse, so he'd be fine, but Kozono's a hard no.
    183AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:27
    Re: #179
    What our team needs right now is hitting power, full stop.
    189AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:28
    《Looking defiant》Hiroshima's Kaito Kozono draws controversy for his demeanor 'right after' his contract was terminated… two 'forgiving' teams floated as possible landing spots
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/debfc9358919304ff1b899bcfc64b414db534d29

    "Kozono won the batting title and led the league in on-base percentage in 2025 — a genuine 'batting double crown.' He was also picked for Japan's WBC roster this year, so his talent is the real deal. Given this incident, teams may find it awkward to openly pursue him, but among fans, the Fukuoka SoftBank Hawks and the Yomiuri Giants are being named as the two 'forgiving' clubs when it comes to taking on players with past scandals."
    207AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:32
    Re: #189
    Please, Lord Kozono, do come join our team.
    205AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:31
    Raidel can't get strikeouts anymore — have hitters figured out his pitch types?
    208AnonymousOct 1, 2026 23:32
    Re: #205
    He's leaving a lot of pitches up and his breaking balls keep missing the zone, no wonder it's rough.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The Giants-Tigers game that day ended in a tie, pushing Hanshin’s magic number down to 2 and putting them firmly in control of the Central League pennant race. The thread’s criticism of the in-game decisions centered on two calls: keeping Kobayashi in as catcher for the entire game without using the backup catcher, and not sending in a pinch hitter late in the game. Some pushed back on this, arguing that the team kept a catcher who could also pitch in an emergency in reserve, so it isn’t simply a right-or-wrong issue. The thread also mixes in discussion of Hiroshima’s Kaito Kozono and his contract termination, but that’s drawn from a separate news article and has no direct connection to the outcome of this particular game — an easy point for readers to conflate. The way frustration over the managing decisions coexists with praise for the team’s overall effort within the same thread also captures the complicated mood typical of a pennant race heading into its final stretch.

    ※This article is compiled as an excerpt/summary from the 5ch (Halpro) thread “Acting Giants Manager Thread #160.”

  • Giants’ Pennant Race Still in Chaos — 5ch: ‘Blowing the Title Two Years Running Would Be No Joke’

    This season the Giants have been fighting out the stretch run of the pennant race against the Hanshin Tigers under an acting-manager setup, and 5ch’s live-commentary thread “Giants Acting Manager 159” filled up with fans riding every swing of the close game. Talk centered on the pitching change that brought in Seiji Kobayashi as a defensive catching substitution, and on closer Raidel fumbling a catch; some posters saw the numbers favoring Hanshin, while others refused to give up. Posts voicing worry about blowing the title two years running also appeared, and the whole thread carried that tense, end-of-season energy.

    1AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:07
    Previous thread
    Giants Acting Manager 158
    3AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:12
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    10AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:13
    If the runner had been Hirayama or Urata, that's a double play right there.
    13AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:13
    Man, Eight's pretty unreliable too though.
    15AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:14
    Had a feeling they'd finally pull out the secret weapon, but nope, didn't happen.
    17AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:14
    Guess it's gotta be Nakagawa (´・ω・`)
    18AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:14
    Honestly today they could've just run Nakagawa out there from the first pitch.
    22AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:15
    Takemaru kind of looks like that "snack idol" girl. (a 5ch term for idols known for candy/snack commercials)
    23AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:15
    58AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:19


    95AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:26
    /Show us that strong arm now\
      \ __________/
       |               |
       |       the pivot behind the plate>
    < Entrusting it to the dream bat        |
       |     : (ノ'A`)>:     |
      / ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄: ( ヘヘ:: ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄\
    /                    \
         \ Fight on, Kobayashi♪ /
    99AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:26
    Re: #95
    Hey, cut that out lol
    125AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:31
    Those 3 losses to the Zombies still sting. (5ch nickname for the Yokohama DeNA BayStars, known for their late-game comebacks)
    139AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:33
    Re: #125
    True, but getting swept at Yokohama Stadium right after beating the Tigers ("Chin," a snarky 5ch nickname for Hanshin) stung just as much.
    130AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:32
    The 3-game skid against Yokohama and that brutal 4-game set in Hiroshima were just too painful.
    140AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:33
    Re: #130
    And don't forget the 7-game losing streak to Hanshin.
    131AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:32
    Are you guys giving up on the title already? There's still a chance!
    138AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:33
    Re: #131
    If we celebrate now, the Tiger trash will just laugh at us.
    142AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:34
    Re: #131
    No way. I think winning today puts us about 80% ahead.
    145AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:35
    Re: #131
    Even if we win every remaining game including this one, they still clinch it by going 2 wins, 1 draw or better…
    148AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:35
    Re: #142
    Hanshin's the one sitting at 80% favorite.
    167AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:37
    Re: #148
    On paper, sure. My confidence has turned into certainty… but if we lose today, none of that matters.
    176AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:38
    The graphic says catcher: Seiji Kobayashi — seriously?
    180AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:38
    Re: #176
    They pulled Ohshiro for a pinch runner, so yeah.
    193AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:40
    Strike— no wait, take the ball!
    This guy's gonna swing, I just know it.
    205AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:40
    Re: #193
    Nope, he's not swinging after all.
    210AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:41
    Never saw Raidel look like this back in his Chunichi days.
    216AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:41
    Re: #210
    But back then he'd never been through a pennant race.
    379AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:50
    Blowing the title two years running would be no joke.
    399AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:52
    Re: #379
    In just the last 10 years we've had back-to-back 4th-place finishes and a 4-year title drought, so this is nothing new at this point.
    391AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:51
    811 Name: Anonymous Wanted… [] Posted: 2026/10/01 (Thu) 20:51:32.27 0
    Bit early, but here's how the standings shake out if this ends in a tie
    401AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:52
    The magic number drops even on a tie, you know.
    406AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:52
    Re: #401
    Guess all we can do now is wait on Iwasaki.
    409AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:54
    If we don't score this inning, is there a chance Kudo comes in for two innings?
    414AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:54
    Re: #409
    I think they'll probably have Kudo go multiple innings.
    441AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:58
    If Raidel could make a play like that, we'd have won lol
    457AnonymousOct 1, 2026 22:00
    Re: #441
    Threw it wild to first and it turned into a walk-off loss.
    463AnonymousOct 1, 2026 22:01
    Re: #441
    His fielding is clearly the weak point — such a waste, since he's a pitcher who can strike out Oyama or whoever bats after him.
    449AnonymousOct 1, 2026 21:59
    "But still, Kudo" (a well-worn Japanese internet meme used to wave away excuses)
    455AnonymousOct 1, 2026 22:00
    Re: #449
    Come on Dal, give us a homer.

    Background and Key Points

    The “acting manager” referenced in the thread title describes a setup where, for whatever reason, no official manager has been appointed and a coach is running the team in their place. In Nippon Professional Baseball’s pennant race, teams are assigned a “magic number” showing how many more wins they need to clinch the title — which means that even if a team wins out, the rival club’s results can still decide the pennant. In the thread, frustration over the closer’s shaky fielding sat alongside hope for strong pitching, and opinions split over the bullpen moves and substitutions. True to a live-commentary thread, number-driven analysis mixed with emotional highs and lows, with posters’ takes flipping with every swing of the game. The thread also showed off culture unique to these live threads — fans sharing breaking info ahead of official sources, and cheering messages built from ASCII art (AA) depicting players. That kind of board atmosphere gives readers a sense of the on-the-ground energy that numbers alone can’t capture.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Giants Acting Manager 159.”

  • Giants Fall Silent Against Hanshin’s Murakami — Bases Loaded, Still Scoreless, Fans Cry ‘Curse’

    This is from the live-reaction thread for the Giants–Hanshin game at Koshien Stadium on October 1, 2026. Hanshin starter Shoki Murakami was handed chance after chance by the Giants’ lineup — bases loaded with no outs, then runners on first and third with no outs — but worked out of both jams without allowing a run. The thread filled with a mix of astonishment and despair, with posts like “everyone’s grinding out at-bats” and “getting shut down by Murakami is just pathetic.” This marks Murakami’s 8th start against the Giants already this season, and some posters jokingly pointed to Hanshin manager Kyuji Fujikawa’s “grudge” against the Giants, as frustration grew over the Giants’ lineup falling silent against a sharp pitcher.

    1AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:23
    Previous thread
    Giants Acting Manager 157
    3AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:24
    Koshien Stadium
    Starting Lineups
    [Giants] [Hanshin]
    7 Maru 8 Chikamoto
    8 Matsumoto 4 Nakano
    6 Izumiguchi 9 Morishita
    2 Oshiro 5 Sato
    5 Richard 3 Oyama
    4 Yoshikawa 7 Takadera
    3 Masuda Riku 2 Sakamoto
    9 Hirayama 2 Motoyama
    1 Taketaru 1 Murakami
    5AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:27
    Central League pennant race standings (as of September 30)
    9AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:33
    Former Chunichi manager Shigekazu Mori weighs in on the possibility of Masumi Kuwata becoming Chunichi's next manager: "If you're really going to change things…"
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/47c4e68fc6c39c92c309bb4319176eec6adf563d
    10AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:33
    Everyone's grinding out at-bats
    Even Richard managed to battle it out, so maybe Murakami's not that sharp today
    11AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:33
    Murakami's low pitches are all balls — why do they keep swinging at them?
    14AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:35
    Murakami doesn't get hit, but lately he's the one getting worn down and pulled around the 5th inning
    17AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:36
    He got into a no-out, bases-loaded jam in the first inning, yet he's only thrown 22 pitches (fans shorthand that situation as "noman")
    32AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:40
    Guess "Chin" (derisive 5ch nickname for Hanshin) really was just off last time
    47AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:43
    The Giants' play right now is way too dumb lol
    48AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:43
    Only "our army" (Giants fans' self-deprecating nickname for their own team) would get hit around this easily by Hanshin's bottom order
    53AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:44
    HERE IT COMES━━━━(ᵒ∀ᵒ)━━━━!!
    65AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:46
    A MIRACLE━━━━(ᵒ∀ᵒ)━━━━!!
    69AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:46
    ZERO━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━!!
    72AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:46
    Fizzled out again, Chin lolololololol
    76AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:46
    Bases loaded, no outs, no runs
    Runners on first and third, no outs, no runs
    77AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:46
    If the Giants are still this helpless against Hanshin next year too, there's no way they win the pennant
    87AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:49
    This is already Murakami's 8th start against the Giants this season
    Fujikawa's grudge against the Giants is next level
    98AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:53
    Re: #87
    If anything, it's a favor from Fujikawa — no way the same opponent gets stonewalled this badly by coincidence
    104AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:54
    Starts against the Giants
    8 — Murakami
    7 — Kanamaru
    7 — Tamamura
    6 — Ohno
    6 — Saiki
    6 — Yamano
    106AnonymousOct 1, 2026 18:55
    Re: #104
    Yamano's starting tomorrow, so that number's probably going up
    153AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:01
    They should just be patient and work the count
    163AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:01
    Re: #153
    Everything from the 5-hole down is garbage
    A scoreless game looks all but certain
    166AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:02
    Giants go three-up-three-down while Hanshin gets a runner in scoring position every single inning?
    179AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:03
    Re: #166
    Now that's an interesting game
    171AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:02
    His arm's stronger than Hirayama's or Sasahara's, right?
    182AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:03
    Re: #171
    Both of them would probably just uncork a wild throw lol
    174AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:02
    An intense tug-of-war over who 'earns' the right to be humiliated by SoftBank (i.e., represent the Central League in the Japan Series)
    184AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:03
    Re: #174
    They'll just hand that 'honor' off to the BayStars anyway
    208AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:08
    I think a home run's coming (doing my Amatsu Kimura impression — a comedian known for his cheesy prediction bits)
    209AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:08
    Re: #208
    Seriously?!
    271AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:17
    Janpa's unreal
    281AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:17
    Re: #271
    Totally whiffed on that prediction lol
    315AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:20
    If it were Hara managing, he'd probably send in a pinch hitter here
    323AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:21
    Re: #315
    Yeah, that kind of move could work at this point
    367AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:28
    Getting shut down by Murakami is just pathetic
    371AnonymousOct 1, 2026 19:29
    Re: #367
    And yet, zero runs allowed lol

    Background and Key Points

    Played on September 30 amid the stretch run of the Central League pennant race, this game saw the Giants stymied by the pinpoint control of Hanshin starter Shoki Murakami. Posters noted this was already his 8th start against the Giants this season, underscoring just how lopsided the matchup has become. The remark about Hanshin manager Kyuji Fujikawa’s “grudge against the Giants” is a tongue-in-cheek fan theory rooted in his playing days facing the Giants’ lineup — not evidence of any real feud. The Giants put runners in scoring position twice, with the bases loaded and no outs and again with runners on first and third and no outs, but came away scoreless both times, drawing plenty of complaints about the lower order’s lack of support alongside praise for the pitching staff that kept the damage off the board. Whether to blame the sluggish offense or credit the strong pitching became the thread’s central point of debate.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary from the 5ch (Hello!Pro board) thread “Giants Acting Manager 158.”