Category: Baseball

  • Former Giants Pitcher Shozo Sadaoka’s Retirement, Revealed — 5ch: ‘Looked Like He Stepped Out of a Shojo Manga’

    Former Yomiuri Giants pitcher Shozo Sadaoka (69) appeared on BS Fuji’s “Pro Baseball Legend Hall” on October 5, where he discussed the circumstances behind his decision to retire from active play at just 29, and recalled getting a phone call at home from his mentor, Shigeo Nagashima. The broadcast revealed why the pitcher — one of the Giants’ famed “Big Three,” alongside Suguru Egawa and Takashi Nishimoto — left the sport when he did, prompting a wave of 5ch posts looking back on how he was rated as a player and his later career as a TV personality.

    The truth behind Shozo Sadaoka’s decision to retire at 29 — and the phone call from Nagashima to the home where he’d shut himself away

    Former Giants pitcher Shozo Sadaoka (69) appeared as a guest on BS Fuji’s “Pro Baseball Legend Hall” (Tuesdays, 10:00 PM), airing September 29.

    He spoke about what led him to retire at just 29 despite being part of the celebrated trio with Suguru Egawa and Takashi Nishimoto, and expressed his gratitude to his mentor, Shigeo Nagashima.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:06
    So what…?
    25AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:22
    Re: #2
    That's exactly what I'd say about your post lol
    4AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:08
    So he originally wanted to join the Tigers, huh
    5AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:08
    Wasn't he only throwing like 120 km/h (~75 mph)?!
    7AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:09
    "Is this your first time wearing Western clothes?"
    17AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:19
    Re: #7
    Mr. [Nagashima] genuinely thought players straight out of high school only ever wore their school uniforms, huh
    8AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:10
    29, seriously?
    That's still young enough to keep growing and improving
    9AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:10
    Super idol Shozo Sadaoka
    11AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:14
    Re: #9
    Guess that's why his TV career took off
    39AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:29
    Re: #26
    No idea how old you are, but judging from the photo in Re: #9, he doesn't really look like he stepped out of a shojo manga.
    He's got that Showa-era handsome vibe, but not the shojo manga look at all.
    Shojo manga heartthrobs are more fair-skinned, with cleaner, more refined features — more like actor Masaki Okada.
    96AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:21
    Re: #9
    Oh my, gorgeous
    10AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:13
    In his rookie year, on March 3, Sadaoka took part in a sit-down interview with manager Shigeo Nagashima on the banks of the Oyodo River in Miyazaki, where he was asked, "Is this your first time wearing Western clothes?" — and didn't know how to answer.
    13AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:18
    Re: #10
    I've seen this somewhere before lol
    He's got that bewildered "wait, what is this guy even saying…?" look on his face
    31AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:24
    Re: #10
    I wonder which one it actually was —
    did he think Kagoshima was some region where people don't even wear T-shirts,
    or was he just using "Western clothes" to mean a formal suit?
    12AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:15
    Unlike now, the Giants were still a real brand back then.
    He probably didn't want to tarnish that by going somewhere like the Kintetsu Buffaloes.
    23AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:21
    Re: #12
    Was the cap logo already the buffalo mark by Sada's time? Or was it still the "B"?
    18AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:20
    Make Ichioka and Nioka his coaches, and let Sadaoka manage (a pun — they all share the "-oka" surname ending)
    19AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:20
    Bet Nagashima's call was literally just "Sadaoka, is this your first time wearing Western clothes?"
    21AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:21
    He must've made serious money from "Nama Dara" (the live specials of Tunnels' variety show)
    32AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:25
    Re: #21
    Funny how Tunnels paid him handsomely for years, then one of their crazy stunts ended up pushing him off TV for good lol
    54AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:38
    Re: #32
    Wasn't Sadaoka hosting a sports news show at the time, and Ishibashi [of Tunnels] ordered him to do the "Very harsh!" catchphrase bit on air? He actually did it and got fired from the show lol
    22AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:21
    I remember stuff from around '84-'85, but I don't really have memories of him actually pitching.
    In '85 the Tigers were all anyone talked about, so I had no idea Sadaoka retired the same day they won the Japan Series.
    The only Sadaoka I remember is the one getting roasted later on Nama Dara.
    24AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:21
    After retiring, he initially said he wasn't going to become a TV personality.
    26AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:22
    184 cm tall, an 89 cm inseam, and sharply chiseled good looks —
    I don't think we'll ever see another ballplayer as handsome as Sadaoka, the kind who looks like he walked out of a shojo manga.
    Otani and Sasaki Roki can match him for height and leg length, but when it comes to the face alone, they just can't beat Sadaoka.
    85AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:05
    Re: #26
    Back then, I guess a dignified face like young Yuzo Kayama's was the standard for male good looks
    27AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:22
    I just remember him getting absolutely trashed on Nama Dara
    34AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:27
    Awano got traded from Kintetsu to the Giants, coached there too, and now runs his own YouTube channel hanging out with various ex-pros.
    Sadaoka's probably just an introvert who's bad with people.
    He must've been popular with women, but he's never married — guess he's more comfortable being on his own.
    49AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:34
    If Egawa and Makihara are S-rank, Nishimoto's an A, and Sadaoka's maybe a C
    95AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:20
    Re: #49
    Makihara, who only won 13 games in a season, as S-rank? 😂
    59AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:41
    The only starters I remember are Egawa, Nishimoto, Kato, and Makihara.
    No memory of Sadaoka or Shimmura at all.
    62AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:47
    Re: #59
    It's Egawa, Kuwata, and Saito, come on.
    Yeah, I've got no memory of Sadaoka either.
    65AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:48
    Going from the Giants to Kintetsu back then was basically a death sentence for your career.
    Even Kintetsu's own Kanemura talked trash about the team at the time.
    72AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:52
    Re: #65
    The Pacific League in the '80s was all about Seibu's dominance.
    Manager Mori, I think.
    Nobody was a fan of teams like Lotte, Kintetsu, or Nankai.
    74AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:55
    The Pacific League used to baffle me — weekday day games and all.
    Even on Pro Baseball News you could see the stadiums were basically empty.
    89AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:13
    Re: #74
    There was that whole trend of drawing dark circles under your eyes with a marker to look exhausted from Kintetsu day games lol
    76AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:57
    Not like today's popular Pacific League —
    back then it was an era where you'd only catch the scores on the sports news.
    Daiei didn't even exist yet.
    83AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:05
    Re: #76
    I only ever saw the Pacific League on Pro Baseball News.
    Day games at half-empty Nissei Stadium, Nishinomiya Stadium, Korakuen —
    plus the All-Star Game and the Japan Series.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Shozo Sadaoka was one of the pitchers known as the Giants’ “Big Three,” alongside Suguru Egawa and Takashi Nishimoto, and nearly all of his 51 career wins came as a starter. His retirement at 29 was rooted in his standing within the team and his refusal of a proposed trade to the Kintetsu Buffaloes, and the heart of this episode is that his relationship with then-manager Shigeo Nagashima continued even after he left the game. The thread split over two points: how to rate his skill as a player, and his personal character. Ranking Egawa and Makihara as “S-rank” drew pushback — comments calling it odd to give S-rank to a 13-win season reflect a long-running debate among baseball fans over how starting pitchers should be judged (factors beyond win-loss record, like pitch quality and team circumstances). The other point of friction was how he was treated after retirement on the variety show “Tunnels no Minasan no Okage Deshita” — the thread mixed posts simply stating the facts of how he ended up leaving broadcast work with posts that framed it as a verdict on his personal character, and this article leaves the latter out. Testimony that the Pacific League back then centered on sparsely attended day games also makes for a striking contrast with its popularity today.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Geisoku+) thread “[Baseball] Former Giants pitcher Shozo Sadaoka reveals the truth behind his decision to retire at 29 — and the phone call from Nagashima to the home where he’d shut himself away.”

  • Chunichi’s Next Manager: 5ch Reacts to Reports That Koichi Ogata Is the Frontrunner

    On 5ch’s “Anything Live Broadcast G” board, discussion was heating up over who might manage the Chunichi Dragons next season. Posters reacted with surprise to reports that Koichi Ogata was the frontrunner for the job, while big names like former players Kimiyasu Kudo and Masumi Kuwata also had their names floated — though many questioned how realistic it was for someone to take over a team they’d had no ties to as a player. Comments attributed to former catcher Takeshi Nakamura were also quoted, as posters weighed the chances of other names in the mix, including Hatsuhiko Tsuji and Hirokazu Ibata.

    5AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:51
    Apparently it's a done deal with Ogata lol — what a surprise
    44AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:17
    Re: #5
    If this actually happens, an Ogata vs. Arai last-place battle would be hilarious to watch
    9AnonymousOct 4, 2026 18:58
    Guys like Kudo won't do it — he doesn't want to tarnish his legacy lol
    12AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:01
    Re: #9
    By that logic, none of the big names would ever take the job
    19AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:04
    Manager Kuwata with Fukudome and Miyamoto as coaches would be popular enough
    GM Tatsunami can handle Nagoya's political and business circles
    63AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:25
    Re: #19
    Miyamoto isn't really popular though
    20AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:05
    I don't want to see Araki get bashed if he becomes manager and loses
    21AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:06
    Re: #20
    That's the tough part when a player you loved becomes manager — you have to watch them get hated on
    31AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:13
    Does Kudo really need to go tarnish his reputation?
    Maybe for Samurai Japan, but not for a team like Chunichi
    34AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:14
    Re: #31
    He did come manage DeNA though…
    73AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:31
    Re: #31
    Kudo's already said he'd take a manager job if offered one — he's not really the type to worry about his reputation
    43AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:16
    It's a total mystery why Kudo and Kuwata are even on the list
    48AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:18
    Re: #43
    Kudo went to Meiden (Nagoya Denki, a well-known Nagoya-area high school)
    51AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:20
    Re: #48
    Does just being from the area mean he'd actually join a team he had no ties to as a player?
    52AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:20
    Re: #48
    That connection feels way too thin
    46AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:17
    Forget Kudo and Kuwata, where did Tsuji even come from?
    47AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:18
    Re: #46
    He was a Chunichi coach at one point, remember?
    49AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:18
    Re: #46
    He's coached at Chunichi before and has a managerial track record — honestly it makes more sense for his name to come up than Kuwata's or Kudo's
    53AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:21
    What about Manager Kuwata with Tatsunami as head coach?
    57AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:21
    Re: #53
    Tatsunami doesn't seem like he'd want that
    89AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:41
    Re: #79
    Most people only picture Occhi (nickname for Hiromitsu Ochiai) at Chunichi or the Giants
    95AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:44
    Re: #89
    Wasn't he at Nippon-Ham too?
    98AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:44
    Re: #95
    He was briefly at Lotte and Nippon-Ham too, near the end of his career
    105AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:46
    Re: #95
    Some people don't even know Occhi was ever at Nippon-Ham — that image just never stuck
    90AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:41
    I remember Hisashi Yamada, formerly of the Hankyu Braves, managing the Dragons — was he from Nagoya?
    97AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:44
    Re: #90
    He's from Akita
    I think he went straight from being a Chunichi coach to manager
    99AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:45
    Re: #90
    Yeah, from Akita — he'd been a coach the year before. He only took the job because Hoshino said he'd back him up, and then Hoshino turned around and poached Shimano too on his way to the Tigers. That's a rough story
    102AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:45
    For some reason online a lot of people trash Abe and praise Kuwata, so I'd like to see Kuwata actually get a shot once
    Personally I think Kuwata's pretty old-school (Showa-era mentality) too though
    104AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:46
    Re: #102
    No idea about his baseball philosophy, but at least he doesn't seem like the power-harassment type
    107AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:47
    Re: #102
    You'll end up dreaming of a Furuta- or Tanishige-style manager
    106AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:47
    By the way, according to Takeshi Nakamura:

    Shima — not impossible
    Araki — not right now
    Ibata — not next year
    Tsujimoto — apparently he keeps turning it down himself, so no
    Kudo — no
    Kuwata — can't say anything careless about this one
    112AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:49
    Re: #106
    Lol what is this
    Basically already answered
    132AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:56
    Re: #106
    So Kuwata, huh
    Masa also said something like — since he hasn't heard of anyone from the Chubu region being approached for a coaching job, the manager's probably going to be someone from Kanto or Kansai
    115AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:51
    Kuwata: "You don't need 150 km/h — just be able to throw to the low-outside corner whenever you want. Rather than exit velocity, focus on the skill to aim for where the fielders aren't"

    Is that really okay…?
    118AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:52
    Re: #115
    People with great skill can't understand people without it
    123AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:54
    Re: #115
    Training someone's control to be like Uehara's or Kuwata's is way less reproducible than just training a wild pitcher to throw 155 km/h — that's dozens of times more consistent as training…
    124AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:54
    Everyone's analyzing this seriously, but isn't what Chunichi's front office actually wants right now a manager who can draw fans, not necessarily one who can build a strong team?
    128AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:55
    Re: #124
    Yeah, that's true
    In that case, maybe someone like Ibata?
    129AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:55
    Re: #124
    Then it'd just be Tatsunami
    131AnonymousOct 4, 2026 19:56
    Re: #124
    Which manager would actually drive fans away?
    Someone with yakuza ties or something?

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Speculation about the Chunichi Dragons’ next manager is an annual post-season topic, but this time the fresh angle is the report that Koichi Ogata is the frontrunner. Ogata previously managed the Hiroshima Carp, so a move to Chunichi is seen as a surprising choice even within the organization. Big names like Kimiyasu Kudo and Masumi Kuwata also had their names floated, though many think it’s unlikely someone would take over a team they had no connection to as a player. Within the thread, the debate centered on whether the priority should be “a manager who can build a strong team” versus “a manager who can draw fans,” with Kazuyoshi Tatsunami and Hirokazu Ibata’s names coming up in the latter context. Comments attributed to former Chunichi catcher Takeshi Nakamura are also quoted, but readers should note that the source and timing can’t be confirmed from the text itself — it’s circulating on 5ch strictly as secondhand information.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary from the 5ch (Anything Live Broadcast G) thread “[Headquarters] The Chunichi Dragons’ next-manager candidates have been narrowed down to these BIG 6.”

  • Shohei Ohtani: “One of My Less Good Years, Personally” — Opens Up on WBC Fatigue

    Dodgers star Shohei Ohtani, speaking at a press conference on the 3rd with Game 1 of the postseason set for the next day, looked back on his season and called it “one of my less good years, personally,” adding that “having the WBC [World Baseball Classic — the international tournament held every few years] in there makes the season feel really long.” He explained that the travel and conditioning burden from playing in the WBC, combined with injury limiting his playing time late in the regular season, were behind that. On the 5ch (Japan’s largest anonymous message board) Geisupo Sokuhō+ board — a forum for entertainment and sports news — his comments sparked a sprawling thread mixing doubts about the value of WBC participation, claims that Ohtani is simply declining with age, and counter-arguments defending him.

    On the 3rd, Japan time, Dodgers’ Shohei Ohtani faced the press with Game 1 of the Division Series set for the following day, and took a moment to look back on his season, which had kicked off with the WBC.

    With his first postseason game coming up on the 4th, Ohtani spoke about his mindset and physical condition, and was asked what kind of season it had been so far. After thinking for a moment, he looked back and said, “Having the WBC in there makes it feel really long — it felt like a long season.” He went on: “My preparation started early, and there was a lot of travel going to Japan and coming back. When you have a tournament like that, you have to focus and get yourself ready specifically for it — I think it’s totally different from just another spring training game.”

    He also touched on the end of the regular season, when he struggled with the effects of injury, saying, “I want to play every game, and getting myself on the field is the bare minimum of my job — those last several days when I couldn’t get myself ready, I think that’s part of why this became one of my less good years, personally.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:33
    Don't go saying stuff that trashes the value of the WBC.
    5AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:33
    Figured with less 'Ohtani-harassment' coverage this year [slang for the nonstop media blitz around him], his stats would've been better — guess not.
    24AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:37
    Re: #5
    And yet here you are, in the Ohtani thread anyway…
    46AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:40
    Re: #5
    On the flip side, 'soccer-harassment' coverage was so bad this year it made me hate soccer.
    13AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:35
    Once you start making excuses, it's over.
    17AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:36
    He seemed genuinely troubled in that interview. Something about not even knowing what treatment the injury needs, so he has to look into it carefully in the offseason… worst case, surgery again. The interviewer didn't press on whether it's his arm or his knee, so we don't even know which one's actually bad.
    18AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:36
    Well, he's probably about at his limit. He'll likely skip the WBC going forward too.
    20AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:36
    Even on the national team he was just DH-ing and strolling around out there. Didn't do anything impressive.
    21AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:36
    This is why I kept saying it, Shohei — just sit out the WBC and let the young guys have the spot (´・ω・`)
    22AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:37
    Everything Ohtani says turns into that 'sushi-kana' speech pattern, lol [a running joke about how he hedges nearly every sentence with '…kana,' Japanese for 'I guess/maybe']
    23AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:37
    Japan got knocked out of the WBC fast, so it can't have felt that long — that excuse doesn't hold up.
    25AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:37
    He's getting up there in age — the bad years are just going to keep coming from here.
    29AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:38
    It's not like soccer, where there's a whole real off-season. This is just a quick thing squeezed into camp and exhibition games. In a sport with 160+ games a year, the WBC is at most 7 of them.
    30AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:38
    This guy's on the decline now. Hurry up and come back to the [Hokkaido Nippon-Ham] Fighters already.
    32AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:38
    He was already slacking off back in his lazy-Ohtani days [an old joking nickname mocking him for being laid-back/sleepy] — he's just going back to that.
    40AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:39
    He's 32 now, so recovery — physical and mental both — is slowing down.
    42AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:39
    Once you give up the two-way thing [pitching and hitting, 'nitōryū'], well — his swing speed is dropping. The arm he throws with is his right arm, and the arm that leads his bat swing is also his right arm. The strain on that one arm is just too much. When he was young, rest alone might've fixed it, but recovery capacity drops with age. His body just can't take being a two-way player anymore.
    44AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:40
    Players still treat the WBC the same way, huh. I thought it'd turn into more of a dream stage the more times it was held.
    77AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:46
    Re: #44
    Seems like the only real winners are NPB [Japan's pro league] players trying to catch MLB scouts' attention.
    45AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:40
    Didn't expect him to start venting like this ᥬ🥺ᩤ
    47AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:40
    Blaming something hasn't changed since way back. Even in his Angels days, whenever he made an out he'd pat his lower back like it was hurting.
    49AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:40
    He should quit stealing bases too, while he's at it (´・ω・`)
    51AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:41
    This year?

    Next year on won't be good either, I think.

    He's past his peak.

    Just the fate of an athlete.
    53AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:41
    He's suddenly washed up, but Fujinami [fellow Japanese MLB pitcher] retired too — is this just an age thing?
    54AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:41
    After this, MLB probably won't keep bending over backwards for Ohtani. They'll just find the next star candidate and push them hard instead.
    75AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:46
    Sounds like that 10-year contract might get torn up.
    94AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:49
    Re: #75
    The team doesn't have that right. It's Ohtani's side that has an opt-out if certain front-office executives leave.
    85AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:47
    Fine if Ohtani skips the WBC, but the Dodgers will probably stop letting Yamamoto [fellow Dodgers pitcher Yoshinobu Yamamoto] play in it too, and that's a problem.
    91AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:48
    Re: #85
    Japan can't even win the WBC anymore anyway — maybe Japan just shouldn't enter either, lol
    96AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:50
    This is raising the odds he skips the LA Olympics too.
    100AnonymousOct 4, 2026 17:50
    Re: #96
    There's doping testing there — he probably wasn't going to enter anyway.

    Background and Key Points of Debate

    The WBC is typically held every March, overlapping with MLB spring training, and there have long been complaints that it squeezes participating players’ conditioning schedules. Ohtani has continued splitting duties as a two-way player (pitching and hitting), and late this season his playing time was limited by injury. Opinion in the thread split two ways: posts tying his WBC participation to his personal decline or dismissing it as an excuse, versus posts questioning the value of the national-team tournament itself — a mix of personal judgment and institutional critique that the thread doesn’t cleanly separate. Some posters also raised the point that Ohtani’s contract has an opt-out clause, but it’s worth flagging as an easy point to get wrong: that clause belongs to Ohtani’s side, not a unilateral right for the team to void the deal.

    *This article is composed of excerpts and a summary from the 5ch (Geisupo Sokuhō+) thread “Shohei Ohtani Opens Up… ‘One of My Less Good Years, Personally,’ ‘The WBC Really Makes the Season Feel Long’.”

  • 19-Year-Old Developmental Pitcher Hits 150 km/h — 5ch: “A 25-Year-Old 2nd-Round Draft Pick Just Struck Out lol”

    On 5ch’s “Good Morning Coffee” board, a pro baseball thread lit up with talk of each team’s farm (minor-league) games. A 19-year-old developmental-contract left-handed pitcher clocked 150 km/h (about 93 mph), striking out a 25-year-old player who was taken in the second round of the draft — sparking reactions like “He throws better than Matagi!” and “A 25-year-old 2nd-round pick just struck out against a 19-year-old developmental player lol.” Meanwhile, posters lamented the Giants’ struggles to develop young talent, while others praised the depth of the Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fighters’ pitching pipeline, making differences in each team’s player development a central topic of the thread. A chart tracking the Central League’s last-place race was also shared, extending the discussion to the Yakult Swallows’ situation.

    1AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:14
    Previous thread
    Giants Acting Manager Thread #164
    3AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:25
    Whoa…
    a teenage lefty is throwing 150 (km/h, ~93 mph).
    5AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:27
    He throws a way better ball than Matagi, lol
    7AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:27
    This year all I've seen from Hagi is strikeouts
    8AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:28
    A 25-year-old 2nd-round draft pick striking out against a 19-year-old developmental player lmao
    9AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:28
    ▽ Games scheduled for Sun 10/4
    Swallows–Carp (Jingu) 18:00
    BayStars–Tigers (Yokohama) 18:00
    Marines–Eagles (ZOZO Marine) 18:00
    10AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:28
    Announced starters for Sun 10/4
    (Swallows–Carp) Yoshimura Kojiro vs. Kuribayashi Yoshinori
    (BayStars–Tigers) Taira Kentaro vs. Ito Shoji
    (Marines–Eagles) Kojima Kazuya vs. Hayakawa Takahisa
    11AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:28
    Central League race to avoid last place (as of end of play 10/3)
    17AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:31
    Re: #11
    If Yakult loses every remaining game, would they end up in last place? (They already have a losing head-to-head record against the Dragons, right?)
    12AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:29
    All three batters struck out, so it's not really Hagio's fault
    13AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:30
    The farm teams in the so-called "Second League" are basically third-stringers compared to the "Perfect League"…
    The only one who can go toe-to-toe with that is the almighty Hanshin Tigers…
    15AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:30
    So he can hit 150 now — guess we might see him in the majors next year
    16AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:31
    The Fighters really develop young pitchers well
    Guys like Tatsu, Fukushima, and Yanagawa are already regulars in the top team
    19AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:33
    Why can't the Giants develop their young players?
    20AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:33
    So he's the type of pitcher who just prays the batter mishits his weak little cutter (slang: "piss cutter," a soft, barely-breaking pitch)
    24AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:34
    Seems like he's only bad once he moves up to the majors — in farm-league matchups he can actually win decently
    25AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:34
    Sonoda's basically a lesser version of Iori, but the gap between them is night and day
    28AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:35
    Why are two runners scoring on just a routine single to right?
    29AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:35
    Tima lmaooooooooooo
    36AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:36
    Tima's probably thinking "why is Yamase even standing there"
    38AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:37
    No wonder he's strong — the guy can knock over a toilet (a running joke about his stocky build)
    40AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:37
    The ball was hit hard, sure, but it wasn't even a 2-out start — why would two runners score on that?
    Something our team's garbage baseball could never understand
    42AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:38
    43AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:38
    This is just Sonoda's default mode this year
    Every outing he loads the bases and either barely wriggles out of it or gives up runs — a consistently sloppy pitcher
    44AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:38
    So the Fighters' top team is doing an intrasquad game
    Reyes is back
    48AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:40
    This guy doesn't even throw pitches with any life on them, lol
    49AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:41
    Did he ditch the orange gear because he's sick of the Giants now?
    51AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:42
    Yamase just uses different gear for home and away games
    52AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:42
    How did this team even make it to the farm championship?
    What's going on with the other teams?
    57AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:45
    Re: #52
    That's just because they're in the division with the Hayate (a weak farm squad) — that's why their win rate looked high
    In fact, both the BayStars and our team also had win rates over .600
    54AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:43
    The Fighters don't have any standout stars, but
    their depth is pretty solid
    56AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:44
    Apparently someone was using Tima as a defensive replacement in the majors
    58AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:45
    The Fighters just keep stockpiling huge guys
    60AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:45
    Re: #57
    So they just farmed weak teams, huh
    Same as the majors
    61AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:46
    It's kind of sad seeing a big guy like Aramaki swing with zero loft and still hit weak grounders
    62AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:49
    Eastern division: Oisix 69 losses
    Central division: Chunichi 64 losses, Hayate 81 losses
    Western division: Hanshin 63 losses, Hiroshima 63 losses
    63AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:49
    64AnonymousOct 4, 2026 15:51
    Just noticed this now, but Yuasa's batting 2nd

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    The farm system (minor leagues) is mainly where players in their early twenties gain game experience, serving as a stepping stone to the top team. The moment that drew attention in the thread — a 19-year-old developmental-contract pitcher striking out a 25-year-old second-round draft pick — stood out as an episode highlighting the gap in status between “ikusei” (developmental, non-roster) players and fully contracted players. That said, good performance in the farm league doesn’t automatically guarantee success in the top team; as one poster in the thread pointed out, “he’s only bad once he moves up to the majors,” so it’s worth remembering that differences in the level of competition can heavily affect results. While some voiced doubts about the Giants’ ability to develop young talent, the Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fighters were said to have several pitchers already established on the top team, making differences in player-development systems between clubs an easy point of comparison.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread Giants Acting Manager Thread #165.

  • Doubts Raised Over Giants’ Use of Catcher Takuya Kai — 5ch: “SoftBank Got Stronger After He Left”

    Catcher Takuya Kai, who left the SoftBank Hawks for the Yomiuri Giants as a free agent, has spent much of his time since the move in the minors or warming the bench — prompting an outpouring of questions on 5ch’s live-commentary board asking “What did he even go to the Giants for?” During his SoftBank days, Kai was prized for his high caught-stealing rate and blocking skills, but with the Giants he’s been buried in a playing-time battle against Takumi Oshima and Yukinori Kishida. The thread was also split over conflicting figures being thrown around regarding his contract terms, with some posters questioning whether the numbers were even accurate.

    1AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:25
    By his second year he's basically living in the minors, and even when he's on the first team he's just a bench warmer.
    Seriously, what did he even go to the Giants for?
    3AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:26
    Who's worth more right now, him or Seiji Kobayashi?
    5AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:27
    Re: #3
    They're both trash, but at least Kobayashi gets playing time.
    4AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:26
    Ever since Kai joined, the Giants have missed the pennant two years running.
    6AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:27
    Re: #4
    Reminder: when Kai's started this year the team is 2-1, a game above .500, so he's not dragging them down.
    32AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:38
    Re: #4
    SoftBank's been stronger since he left too — maybe he's just better off not being around at all.
    8AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:29
    The year they used Kai a lot, they finished 3rd even with Okamoto on the roster.
    This year, with Kai sidelined, they're 2nd even without Okamoto.
    His biggest contribution has been not playing.
    13AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:31
    Re: #8
    Thing is, last year they were also in 2nd before Kai went down.
    They dropped to 3rd because Kishida started every single game after Kai left — that's on him.
    16AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:32
    Re: #13
    Are you that notorious "Kai's defense attorney" everyone talks about? (wordplay on bengoshi, "lawyer" — i.e. someone who always defends Kai)
    41AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:44
    Re: #13
    And this year they're 2nd even with Kishida sent to the minors.
    14AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:31
    Can't be anything but the money.
    SoftBank offered 4 years / 900 million yen.
    The Giants offered 5 years / 1.5 billion yen.
    Nobody on earth would pick SoftBank after seeing those numbers.
    17AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:32
    Takuya Kai's contract offers:
    Giants: 5 years / 1.5 billion yen
    SoftBank: 4 years / 1 billion yen
    Of course he's going to the Giants.
    18AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:33
    Lol, you reeled in a Kai fan who'll even lie to defend him.
    25AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:35
    The Giants really still make these signings that nobody on the actual team needed, huh.
    45AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:47
    Re: #25
    Back then they really did need Kai.
    35AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:40
    The year after Kai left, SoftBank swept everything — the interleague title, the league title, and a perfect Japan Series championship.
    And apparently some team just handed them Yuta Yamamoto as a gift this year on top of that.
    38AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:44
    Re: #35
    They got an ace and a cleanup-hitter candidate out of the deal.
    And now Yamamoto's even coming back to them as a free agent.
    40AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:44
    Feels like even at his peak Kai was never a true lock-down starter — how good was he actually?
    43AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:46
    Re: #40
    His tag on Ogata's stolen-base attempt in the Japan Series was incredible.
    50AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:48
    Re: #40
    His caught-stealing rate really was tops, and his blocking was great too.
    At the plate he was a low-average, roughly 10-homer guy — so-called "punchy" hitting (occasional pop but no consistency), which is pretty normal for a catcher anyway.
    55AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:50
    Re: #40
    Not sure about now, but his blocking used to be the best in the game.
    His caught-stealing rate was also top-tier.
    He had a year with double-digit homers, but overall his hitting was weak.
    49AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:48
    Even back at SoftBank, it was basically just "well, he's got the Kai Cannon, so I guess he's fine." (his famous throwing arm)
    52AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:49
    Re: #49
    The arm too, but his blocking ability was the real standout.
    51AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:48
    Everyone's playing baseball as a job at the end of the day, so of course they move for what pays better.
    Telecom companies especially — easy on new customers, harsh on existing ones, and even homegrown guys get treated badly once they're no longer useful.
    58AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:51
    Re: #51
    SoftBank treats its homegrown players better than any team in the league though.
    72AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:54
    Re: #58
    Sugiuchi: "Is that so?" (skeptically)
    75AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:55
    Re: #58
    Like who, for example?
    71AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:54
    Re: #68
    Salary.
    Homegrown players' pay is overwhelmingly good.
    80AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:55
    Re: #71
    It's mostly incentive pay though, so it's not actually that good.
    88AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:58
    Re: #80
    That's true everywhere, but for outside signings the reported figure includes incentives at full value, while for in-house guys it's the base salary that gets reported.
    93AnonymousOct 4, 2026 13:00
    Re: #80
    Other teams have incentive clauses too, you know.
    82AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:56
    Just watching how the Giants acquired and used Kai tells you exactly why they'll never become SoftBank.
    84AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:57
    Re: #82
    Unlike SoftBank, the Giants just don't develop players at all.
    86AnonymousOct 4, 2026 12:57
    Re: #82
    Actually the Giants' own draft picks have been developing just fine.
    95AnonymousOct 4, 2026 13:01
    It makes total sense for Kai himself to take the better offer and move to the Giants, but why the Giants wanted him in the first place is baffling.
    100AnonymousOct 4, 2026 13:03
    Re: #95
    People who say this don't understand what the team's situation actually was back then.
    106AnonymousOct 4, 2026 13:06
    Re: #100
    They'd just signed Oshima, a catcher who can hit, to a 3-year deal.
    Kishida was emerging and became team captain.
    Down in the minors, Yamase is doing decently too.

    Oshima and Kishida, around the same age as Kai, were already producing at this level.
    So he's needed less and less.
    109AnonymousOct 4, 2026 13:08
    Re: #100
    There's no way an average fan like me would know the inside team situation, but objectively speaking, it never looked like they needed Kai at all.
    96AnonymousOct 4, 2026 13:01
    The Giants overpaying for a washed-up player — that's nothing new.
    But I'm surprised "the Toilet" (a derisive 5ch nickname for SoftBank) actually offered Kai pretty good terms too.
    He's not that great a catcher.
    97AnonymousOct 4, 2026 13:02
    Re: #96
    SoftBank takes good care of its homegrown players, after all.
    99AnonymousOct 4, 2026 13:03
    Re: #96
    For SoftBank he was unquestionably a guy who earned his keep — they wanted to pay him well and keep him until retirement.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Takuya Kai is a catcher who left SoftBank for the Giants as a free agent in the 2023 offseason, valued during his playing days for his high caught-stealing rate and strong blocking technique. In the thread, multiple figures circulated for the contract offers — “5 years / 1.5 billion yen” from the Giants versus “4 years / 900 million yen” or “4 years / 1 billion yen” from SoftBank — but posters disagreed on the exact amounts, and some even accused others of “lying just to defend Kai,” so these unsourced contract figures shouldn’t be taken as established fact. With the Giants, catchers of a similar generation such as Takumi Oshima and Yukinori Kishida have already secured playing time, and the frustration over how Kai has been used in this thread centers less on debating his individual ability and more on questions about the team’s catcher roster planning and reinforcement decisions themselves — that’s the real point of interest in this thread.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nanimo Jikkyo G) thread “Why did the Giants’ Takuya Kai even move to the Giants?“

  • Hanshin Clinches Back-to-Back Pennants, Fans Dive into Dotonbori River — One Guy in His 20s Does It 4 Times; 5ch: ‘Guess Tiger Fans Are Having Fewer Kids Too’

    The Hanshin Tigers clinched back-to-back Central League pennants on October 3, even after losing to the Hiroshima Carp. The traditional victory “dive” into Osaka’s Dotonbori River continued despite heavy police security — witnesses counted 10 people diving in a combined 23 times, with one man in his 20s jumping in by himself four separate times. Police even had to step in to mediate a fight between rival Tigers fans. On 5ch, discussion spread around the fact that the celebration takes place in Osaka’s Dotonbori even though the team is actually based in Nishinomiya, Hyogo, and that Dotonbori is technically closer to the home turf of the Orix Buffaloes.

    Fans Dive into Dotonbori One After Another as Hanshin Clinches Back-to-Back Titles — Man in His 20s Dives Four Times… Police Step In to Mediate Fight Between Rival Tigers Fans

    ◆JERA Central League: Hiroshima 6–4 Hanshin (Oct. 3, Mazda Stadium)

    On the 3rd, the day Hanshin secured the first back-to-back pennants in the team’s history, heavy security was in place at Osaka’s famous Dotonbori River tourist spot — but a total of 10 people were witnessed making the “Dotonbori Dive” 23 times combined.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:25
    They literally hoisted some guy in orange clothes up and chucked him into the river together, that's insane
    45AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:56
    Re: #4
    A Giants fan, huh
    I wanna see that
    89AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:36
    Re: #4
    Back in 2003 some guy wore a Hara (then-Giants manager) uniform
    Back when it was just starting to catch on
    He posted it on a blog, not a video — titled something like "I tried going to Dotonbori in a Hara uniform" — it was hilarious
    Everyone around him was yelling "throw him in, throw him in!"
    12AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:31
    They're a Hyogo team, so why do they dive in Osaka?
    14AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:32
    Re: #12
    Hanshin is a symbol of Naniwa (Osaka) culture
    Territorial rights are just a business arrangement
    https://hanshintigers.jp/event/game/b-luck_dynamite2026/
    24AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:37
    Re: #12
    Hyogo does have the Muko River near Koshien, but there's no entertainment district there, so nobody would notice even if you jumped in
    15AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:32
    What happens if the bacteria get into their internal organs?
    16AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:32
    Typical "chin-wota" (derogatory nickname for Tigers fans/otaku)
    Still pulling stunts like it's the Showa era
    17AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:32
    Diving 4 times just gets old and tedious
    Same with stripping fully naked — do that four times and nobody's laughing anymore
    20AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:35
    >A total of 10 people as far as witnesses could tell

    Guess even Tiger fans are hit by the declining birthrate lol
    29AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:40
    Re: #20
    There were 200 officers on duty at the start of the game in broad daylight, and by the time the Giants lost their night game that had grown to 800
    That's the result of all that police security
    26AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:38
    Wait, why Dotonbori River though — that's Orix's turf
    If you're a real Hanshin fan, dive off the Akashi Kaikyo Bridge instead
    28AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:39
    Re: #26
    Hanshin is a symbol of Naniwa (Osaka) culture
    Territorial rights are just a business arrangement
    https://hanshintigers.jp/event/game/b-luck_dynamite2026/
    30AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:41
    Re: #26
    Plenty of people don't even know where Orix is based
    People who aren't into baseball still think they're a Kobe team
    35AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:46
    Re: #26
    The idea that "Hanshin is strictly a Nishinomiya, Hyogo team with nothing to do with Osaka, so go dive off a bridge in Nishinomiya instead" — that's the kind of hometown-loyalty thinking soccer fans love
    32AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:41
    There probably aren't many fans left who remember the pennant win back in '64
    34AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:43
    Re: #32
    That was back when today's 75-and-up crowd were kids
    41AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:52
    There's a real gap in enthusiasm between the rest of Japan and Osaka
    Can't believe people still get this hyped over baseball in the Reiwa era
    80AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:30
    Re: #41
    Areas with a pro baseball team really do have baseball ingrained in the local culture
    It pulls good ratings too — it's popular content
    49AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:57
    So are they gonna dive again if they win the Climax Series, and dive yet again if they win the Japan Series?
    58AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:01
    Re: #49
    They'll dive every single time, win or lose
    61AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:04
    To put it bluntly
    The Yamaguchi-gumi yakuza guys in Kobe are Giants fans
    So this whole "Hanshin Tigers are a symbol of Naniwa culture" thing is absolutely not true
    In southern Osaka there are more Giants fans than Tigers fans
    They've got Giants calendars hanging on their walls lol
    Old-guy Tigers fans in Kansai remember the dark ages (the Tigers' long losing streak), so they're always on edge, wondering when the rug's gonna get pulled out from under them again lol lol
    69AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:17
    Re: #61
    Kuwata and Kiyohara were Giants fans too, and there are plenty of Giants players from Kansai
    Uehara's one, and Sakamoto went to Kosei Gakuin High School but was born in Osaka, right
    73AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:19
    But still, Hanshin is technically a Hyogo team, and it's Orix that's actually based in Osaka now
    In Kanto terms, it'd be like DeNA winning the pennant and people in central Tokyo being the ones going wild about it
    83AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:32
    Re: #73
    Hanshin is a symbol of Naniwa (Osaka) culture
    Territorial rights are just a business arrangement
    https://hanshintigers.jp/event/game/b-luck_dynamite2026/
    88AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:35
    Re: #73
    It's basically like the Tokyo Giants building their stadium out in Yatsu, Narashino
    76AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:24
    They lost the actual game but still won the pennant because the Giants also lost — getting this hyped over such a lame way of clinching it just shows how dumb people are
    91AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:39
    Re: #76
    Winning the pennant is the result of an entire season's play though?
    What's lame about that?
    86AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:33
    There's always some staged media ("masu-gomi"/trash-media slur) stunt mixed in, every single time
    87AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:35
    Re: #86
    I was actually there — some outlet interviewed the first guy who jumped in afterward, so I don't think it was staged
    90AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:37
    How did the 5,300 people who jumped in back in '85 even get home?
    They sure didn't take the train or a taxi soaked like that
    Fine, make noise in Namba, but seriously
    don't go causing trouble for everyone else
    You're dragging Osaka's image down, you jerks
    92AnonymousOct 4, 2026 10:39
    Re: #90
    Apparently nearby shops and hotels ban you from entering once you've jumped into Dotonbori, so things get rough afterward

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    The Dotonbori Dive tradition dates back to 1985, the night Hanshin won its first-ever Japan Series title. Famously, a Colonel Sanders statue was even thrown into the river that night, and the team’s long losing streak afterward came to be known as the “Curse of the Colonel.” Hanshin’s home stadium is Koshien in Nishinomiya, Hyogo, but the celebrations happen in Dotonbori in Osaka’s Minami district because Tigers fandom runs wide across the whole Kansai region and Dotonbori is a famous entertainment district. Opinions in the thread were split on two points: fans of Hanshin and the Orix Buffaloes — whose home turf is actually closer to Dotonbori — often get mixed up, and there’s a real gap between those who accept the dives as a fun tradition and those who see them as a public nuisance.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Geisokuho+) thread “[Baseball] Fans Dive into Dotonbori One After Another as Hanshin Clinches Back-to-Back Titles — Man in His 20s Dives Four Times… Police Step In to Mediate Fight Between Rival Tigers Fans.”

  • Dodgers Cruise to Victory Behind Skubal’s Strong Outing & 3 Home Runs — Shohei Ohtani Goes 1-for-4

    The Dodgers cruised to a 5-3 win over the Braves in Game 1 of the NL Division Series (Oct. 3, at Dodger Stadium), getting off to a strong start in their bid for a third straight World Series title. Starter Skubal pitched well, and the lineup erupted for three home runs, though Shohei Ohtani finished just 1-for-4. On 5channel, reactions were a mix of praise for a lineup strong enough to win even without Ohtani, and concern over his slump. The game was also played in roughly 104°F (40°C) heat, and fans reacted with surprise at how empty the stands were.

    Dodgers Cruise to Victory in Postseason Opener Behind Skubal’s Strong Outing & 3 Home Runs! Ohtani Goes 1-for-4 — Good Start in Bid for Third Straight World Series

    [NL Division Series: Dodgers 5-3 Braves] Game 1, Oct. 3 (Oct. 4 JST), Dodger Stadium

    The Dodgers won decisively in their postseason opener, getting off to a strong start toward a third consecutive World Series title.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:46
    It was only close because Ohtani was in the lineup.
    Without him it would've been a blowout.
    He really kills the vibe.
    5AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:46
    Wait, Skubal hit 3 home runs?
    65AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:20
    Re: #5
    A new two-way star is born to replace Ohtani.
    6AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:47
    Seriously surprised how empty the stands were.
    10AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:49
    Re: #6
    Was it really that sparse? Guess fans drifted away since Ohtani hasn't been playing much lately.
    23AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:57
    Re: #6
    Apparently it was around 104°F (40°C).
    Everyone retreated to the shade.
    37AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:07
    Re: #6
    Heard they issued a heat warning at 40°C (104°F).
    8AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:48
    Guess he's done with the WBC 🤭


    Shohei Ohtani opens up: "This has personally been one of my less good years." Looking back on an up-and-down season so far: "Having the WBC on top of it makes the year feel really long."
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/22ba68fdb770d0c95b3feb58fec870a408b2692f
    86AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:32
    Re: #8
    But his best season came right after the last WBC.
    12AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:51
    Pretty sure everyone's just gotten tired of it at this point.
    20AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:56
    Re: #12
    If Ohtani's not producing,
    it's just another strong foreign team.
    13AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:52
    That closer they call 'Suttoko' is insane (a fan nickname riffing on his name 'Scott')
    14AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:53
    Scott is terrifyingly good.
    36AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:06
    Re: #13
    Re: #14
    Who's better, him or Díaz?
    44AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:10
    Re: #13
    Suttokodokkoi (lol — playful slang for 'blockhead,' punning on 'Scott')
    72AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:25
    Re: #13
    The Suttoko Show (same running pun on Scott's name)
    16AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:54
    Honestly, I think the Dodgers take it, something like 3-1.
    26AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:58
    Re: #16
    They've got the No. 1 payroll by a mile — it'd be stranger if they didn't win.
    32AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:04
    Re: #16
    The Braves don't have a decent starter besides Sale.
    24AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:57
    108AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:42
    Re: #24
    Forget Ohtani for a second — Murakami making it into this picture in his rookie year says something.
    Being treated as a face of the team like that is a big deal.
    25AnonymousOct 4, 2026 08:58

    35AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:06
    Looks like Mamiko was at the game too.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HTu9HvjagAAJHZI.png
    48AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:11
    Re: #35
    Is that Hyeseong's wife next to Mamiko in the top left?
    38AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:07
    September and October in America are all about football.
    Even the World Series usually loses the ratings battle when it airs opposite the NFL.
    42AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:09
    Re: #38
    Well, things really only heat up once the World Series starts.
    And even then, it can totally fizzle depending on the matchup — like that Rangers vs. Diamondbacks series a few years back.
    60AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:19
    Since coming back his power's down — a first-inning single was about all he could manage.
    63AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:20
    Re: #60
    A single still has value if it comes in a scoring chance, but…
    66AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:21
    Honestly makes me want to root for the White Sox over the Dodgers.
    67AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:22
    Re: #66
    Would be fun if they met in the World Series.
    You'd root for the Dodgers then though, right?
    73AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:25
    Saw the thread title and was genuinely shocked thinking Skubal himself hit 3 home runs — can't be the only one, right?
    83AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:32
    Re: #73
    Well, it does say 'Dodgers' right there.
    82AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:31
    Veterans like Teoscar basically coast all season thinking 'I'll just peak in October,' which makes the guys who actually grinded the whole year look like suckers.
    They should make a rule: if you haven't played 100 games in the regular season, you can't play in the postseason.
    87AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:33
    Re: #82
    lol that'd be way too harsh a rule.
    89AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:34
    Teoscar, Freeman, Snell — they slack off all season so they've got tons of stamina saved up for a big postseason run.
    Someone needs to regulate that.
    97AnonymousOct 4, 2026 09:38
    Re: #89
    Teoscar and Freeman are both the type who actually want to play, though.
    The ones really slacking off are more like Snell and Glasnow.

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    MLB Division Series are best-of-five, and the team that wins Game 1 reportedly advances at a high rate. The Dodgers again have one of the majors’ top payrolls this season, and several posts in the thread took the view that “of course they should win with the No. 1 payroll.” Meanwhile, on Ohtani’s hitting, reports quote him describing this season as “one of my less good years personally,” and the thread was split between taking that slump at face value and chalking it up to the team’s conditioning management. There were also several posts calling veterans like Teoscar Hernández and Snell “slackers” for playing less down the stretch — worth noting this is fan speculation about usage patterns, not an official explanation from the club. The roughly 104°F (40°C) heat on game day was also cited as a possible factor in the low attendance, though this article could not confirm that against official attendance figures.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Entertainment/Sports News+) thread “[MLB] Dodgers Cruise to Victory in PS Opener Behind Skubal’s Strong Start & 3 Home Runs — Ohtani Goes 1-for-4, Team Off to Good Start in Bid for Third Straight World Series.”

  • Dodgers Reveal NLDS Rotation: Skubal Game 1, Snell Game 2, Yamamoto Game 3, Glasnow Game 4

    The Dodgers have announced their starting rotation for the NL Division Series against the Braves: Skubal in Game 1, Snell in Game 2, Yamamoto Yoshinobu in Game 3, and Glasnow in Game 4. The thread’s main debate centered on why ace-caliber Yamamoto — who carried a full workload last season — wasn’t tapped for Game 1 instead of Game 3, but opinions settled once data was cited showing “the Braves are weak against left-handed pitching.” It was also pointed out that since September, the Braves’ OPS against lefties sits dead last among all 30 MLB teams at .585, which many agreed gave the lefty/righty sequencing real logic. The thread also touched on Yamamoto’s home-versus-road performance gap and Ohtani’s hitting numbers.

    Dodgers name Snell as their Game 2 starter — rock-solid rotation locked in: Skubal → Snell → Yamamoto Yoshinobu → Glasnow

    ◆MLB NL Division Series: Dodgers vs. Braves (Oct. 3, Dodger Stadium, Los Angeles, California)

    On Oct. 3 (Oct. 4 JST), the Dodgers announced that Blake Snell (33) will start Game 2 of the Division Series at home against the Braves tomorrow, Oct. 4 (Oct. 5 JST).

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 4, 2026 01:59
    Mark my words — Ohtani's going to be the drag that sinks the Dodgers.
    31AnonymousOct 4, 2026 02:42
    Re: #2
    And what exactly happens when you 'mark your words'?
    37AnonymousOct 4, 2026 02:48
    Re: #2
    That's exactly what you said right before Game 4 of the 2025 NLCS.
    7AnonymousOct 4, 2026 02:15
    Do you people actually want them to lose that bad? lol
    8AnonymousOct 4, 2026 02:15
    Yamamoto in Game 3…
    this is gonna backfire.
    Just trust the guy already.
    9AnonymousOct 4, 2026 02:15
    Every single starter throws 96+ mph (155+ km/h).
    13AnonymousOct 4, 2026 02:19
    Sheehan, Wrobleski, and Sasaki in the bullpen, huh?
    Atlanta's only shot at flipping this is Díaz.
    27AnonymousOct 4, 2026 02:40
    Re: #13
    2025's scapegoat was Scott, 2026's is Díaz —
    hoping for a 'scapegoat relay' where each one blows 3 runs, 6 total (senpan = slang for whoever gets blamed for the loss).
    15AnonymousOct 4, 2026 02:21
    They were calling Yamamoto the GOAT, and yet the 'ace' tag goes to the guy they spent a fortune to acquire — Skubal — not Yamamoto, who carried a full workload all year.
    16AnonymousOct 4, 2026 02:23
    I'd want to see this worked out backward from the World Series —
    what does the rotation look like then?
    Otherwise some of this just doesn't add up.
    29AnonymousOct 4, 2026 02:41
    Re: #16
    It's one loss and you're out from the jump — of course you plan from the start, what else would you do?
    26AnonymousOct 4, 2026 02:38
    Re: #1
    Why isn't Yamamoto, the clear ace, starting Game 1?
    If they drop Games 2 and 3, they're just going to throw him again in Game 4 anyway.
    28AnonymousOct 4, 2026 02:40
    Re: #26
    Probably because they can win with any of these guys on the mound.
    Since Yamamoto carried a full workload all season, they slotted him into the lighter third spot.
    30AnonymousOct 4, 2026 02:41
    Re: #28
    Do you even know how many wins Skubal and Snell have combined?
    32AnonymousOct 4, 2026 02:42
    Re: #30
    It's fine, it's fine —
    they'll lock in once the postseason starts.
    33AnonymousOct 4, 2026 02:44
    There's data showing the Braves are weak against lefties, and Yamamoto isn't great at home — Game 3 makes sense.
    65AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:34
    Re: #33-35
    MLB's data analytics really are something else.
    74AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:33
    Re: #33
    If the gap's this clear-cut, fair enough.

    Home 3.13
    Away 1.77
    35AnonymousOct 4, 2026 02:45
    Since September, the opponent's OPS against lefties is .585 —
    dead last among all 30 MLB teams.
    39AnonymousOct 4, 2026 02:53
    Roberts basically said 'honestly we could flip a coin, hah' —
    that's the Evil Empire for you.
    46AnonymousOct 4, 2026 02:59
    Re: #39
    With a roster like that, even I'd want to manage the Dodgers.
    45AnonymousOct 4, 2026 02:58
    The Braves are brutally weak against lefties, so the Dodgers are front-loading their lefty starters — that's why Yamamoto ended up in Game 3.
    47AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:05
    Re: #45
    Thanks for the breakdown.
    76AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:52
    Ohtani basically does nothing in the postseason, huh — it's practically a seasonal tradition at this point.
    87AnonymousOct 4, 2026 05:25
    Re: #76
    Last year he put up an OPS over 1.000 and hit 8 home runs — second-most in postseason history. Across two years that's 11 homers, and his career postseason OPS is .940. The guy's a monster.
    78AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:56
    It's 95°F (35°C) out there lol
    81AnonymousOct 4, 2026 05:15
    Re: #78
    It just climbed to 100°F (38°C) lol
    89AnonymousOct 4, 2026 05:26
    Sounds like they're planning to start Yamamoto in Games 3, 6, and 7 of the World Series.
    91AnonymousOct 4, 2026 05:28
    Re: #89
    If he picks up 6 World Series wins across two years, people will be talking about it a century from now.
    90AnonymousOct 4, 2026 05:27
    When Roberts is really playing to win, he's the master tactician who keeps the lineup's weak spots — Betts and Tucker — as far apart as possible.
    97AnonymousOct 4, 2026 05:54
    Glasnow barely even pitches in the postseason anyway.
    Re: #90
    Both of them were red-hot down the stretch though, no?
    107AnonymousOct 4, 2026 06:13
    Snell going full throttle is genuinely terrifying — though that also means he's barely like that during the regular season.
    115AnonymousOct 4, 2026 06:31
    Re: #107
    Yeah, outside of his Cy Young years he's barely been durable.
    As a team or a fan, you'd rather have someone like Yamamoto who performs consistently.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    MLB has a custom of announcing starters for the first several postseason games in advance, and how a team splits up its left- and right-handed starters is closely tied to analysis of the opponent’s weaknesses. The data cited here — that since September the Braves have been extremely weak against left-handed pitching (a league-worst .585 OPS) — gives a clear rationale for not leading with a right-handed ace like Yamamoto Yoshinobu, though that nuance doesn’t come through from the headline alone. The thread split over whether Yamamoto, as the “true ace,” should have started Game 1 instead; since factors like innings pitched and rest between starts are all intertwined, no clear consensus emerged. Yamamoto’s home-versus-road performance gap (such as a 3.13 mark at home versus 1.77 on the road) was also cited as a factor in the sequencing — worth noting this isn’t a simple ranking by ability, but a rotation built around matchups and managing workload.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisokuho+) thread “[MLB] Postseason Opens — Dodgers Announce Starters: Game 1 Skubal, Game 2 Snell, Game 3 Yamamoto Yoshinobu, Game 4 Glasnow, a Rock-Solid Rotation.”

  • Munetaka Murakami Smashes 134m Go-Ahead Homer in Postseason Debut — 5ch Hails Him ‘Murakami-Kami’ (a pun on his name and ‘kami,’ meaning ‘god’)

    In Game 1 of the American League Division Series, White Sox slugger Munetaka Murakami started at cleanup and first base, and crushed a massive two-run homer with an estimated distance of 134 meters in the 4th inning. The exit velocity was reportedly the fastest of this postseason, and the blast silenced the crowd at Cleveland’s home ballpark. While 5ch’s live-commentary threads buzzed with excitement over the shot, the conversation spilled beyond the game itself, touching on MLB’s growing tolerance for flashy celebrations and frustration with Japan’s Climax Series “advantage” system.

    ◇AL Division Series Game 1: White Sox vs. Guardians (October 3, 2026, Cleveland)

    White Sox infielder Munetaka Murakami (26) started at cleanup and first base on the 3rd (October 4 in Japan) in Game 1 of the Division Series on the road against the Guardians in Cleveland. He hit a go-ahead two-run homer in the 4th inning.

    With the score tied 0-0 and a runner on first with none out in the 4th, Murakami crushed the first pitch he saw — a 93.4 mph (about 150.3 km/h) sinker from Guardians rookie left-hander Mesick that caught the middle of the plate up in the zone. He watched the ball land in the middle deck of the right-field stands, then took his time rounding the bases, letting out a roar toward the first-base dugout. The exit velocity was 112.2 mph (about 180.6 km/h), with an estimated distance of 440 feet (about 134 meters). According to the TV broadcast, it was the hardest-hit ball of this year’s postseason.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    9AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:22
    MuraKami's playing slick defense out there lol
    10AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:23
    545 Anonymous@Live-threads-belong-on-the-live-board 2026/10/04(Sun) 03:09:48.53 /qSDSvtV
    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2106446208298364928/vid/avc1/1920×1080/Y91RnHinPeEjSCvY.mp4

    murakami No1
    11AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:25
    608 Anonymous@Live-threads-belong-on-the-live-board 2026/10/04(Sun) 03:41:48.43 ID:/qSDSvtV
    Mune has us FIRED UP 🔥
    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2106451368219209728/vid/avc1/1080×1080/5Fb2CnAKiPxXVMUC.mp4
    13AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:32
    Re: #11
    So badass, lol
    50AnonymousOct 4, 2026 05:15
    Re: #11
    No wonder the dugout's going nuts
    92AnonymousOct 4, 2026 06:02
    Re: #11
    I wish he'd do that facing the other team's dugout instead
    12AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:26
    MLB's really changed.
    Shinjo (a former NPB/MLB outfielder) once got drilled with a retaliation pitch just for tossing his bat a little flashy after a homer.
    And now guys can pull off a show like this on the road.
    14AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:35
    Seriously though, Japan's postseason
    needs to drop this dumb 'advantage' system too.
    Just make it fair.
    101AnonymousOct 4, 2026 06:08
    Re: #14
    Honestly we don't even need the Climax Series.
    17AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:38
    Murakami's line today:
    Single to center, 2-run homer to right, strikeout, strikeout
    18AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:40
    Wait, this was on terrestrial TV? Didn't even notice.
    19AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:40
    This White Sox hot streak feels fishy.
    It's gotta be a fix to pump some life back into MLB as a whole.
    People are getting bored of the Dodgers and Ohtani by now anyway.
    65AnonymousOct 4, 2026 05:34
    Re: #19
    If it were rigged, they wouldn't let a Japanese player shine like this.
    72AnonymousOct 4, 2026 05:42
    Re: #19
    A fix only works if the losing side is in on it —
    you'd have to get the other team to throw it.
    In a spot like today that'd mean feeding him easy pitches to hit.
    But that high-velocity slider isn't something you can just hit even knowing it's coming.
    If anything you'd have to get them to deliberately boot plays or make errors.
    21AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:41
    Beating Ohtani in the postseason is pretty easy, honestly.
    The last couple years everyone kept calling him a free rider anyway.
    33AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:50
    Re: #21
    Did you already forget about last year's NLCS, grandpa?
    22AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:43
    At this point shouldn't Kumamoto just become the secondary capital? (Murakami's hometown)
    25AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:45
    Alright, bottom of the 9th, White Sox up 3-0.
    Heading out now since the Dodgers game starts at 5.
    They've got this in the bag, right?
    …Right?
    26AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:46
    "Silenced the road crowd," "fans in an uproar" — it's always the same headlines. Such a lack of vocabulary.
    30AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:49
    From three straight 100-loss seasons
    to an undefeated postseason run toward a world championship —
    the biggest underdog upset in history is happening right now.
    And at the center of it all was a god.
    Murakami-kami.
    40AnonymousOct 4, 2026 05:00
    Make the thread after the game's actually over.
    Completely ignoring the Wild Card Series, geez.
    47AnonymousOct 4, 2026 05:11
    Re: #40
    Nobody cares about MLB results themselves —
    just whether a Japanese player did well.
    41AnonymousOct 4, 2026 05:00
    The White Sox are gonna be World Champions!!
    42AnonymousOct 4, 2026 05:01
    They were only one game back in the same division, after all.
    67AnonymousOct 4, 2026 05:37
    Japanese fans really don't care about baseball success anymore, huh.

    "Road crowd in an uproar" 🤣🤣 the trash media is so dumb 🤣🤣 (マスゴミ, a slang mashup of 'mass media' and 'trash')
    82AnonymousOct 4, 2026 05:53
    In his very first year, he's already topped Hideki Matsui (legendary NPB slugger who also starred for the Yankees) in every respect.
    84AnonymousOct 4, 2026 05:56
    Re: #82
    In Matsui's rookie year his team made it to the World Series, and he got handed the cleanup spot from Game 5 on — but went 0-for-9 and lost.
    85AnonymousOct 4, 2026 05:57
    But he can't marry Main-chan, can he? (nickname of actress Mana Ashida from her child-star days)
    100AnonymousOct 4, 2026 06:07
    Re: #85
    If it's Mana Ashida, Fuka Koshiba, or Mio Imada, he'd actually have a shot.
    89AnonymousOct 4, 2026 06:00
    Back in spring the threads were all chanting 'the next Tsutsugo' in unison lol (Yoshitomo Tsutsugo, another NPB slugger who went to MLB)
    93AnonymousOct 4, 2026 06:03
    Re: #89
    I was shocked at how many clueless bandwagon fans there are on the sports/entertainment board.
    96AnonymousOct 4, 2026 06:04
    Re: #89
    They probably only know Murakami from the WBC.

    Background and Discussion Points

    In the past, flashy celebrations after a home run in MLB were often seen as an insult to the opposing team, and could lead to retaliatory beanballs. In recent years tolerance for such displays has grown, and the mood has shifted toward players feeling free to celebrate openly even on the road — which is why commenters in the thread drew comparisons to the Shinjo era. Meanwhile, the Climax Series that came up in discussion is a system unique to Japanese pro baseball that gives an advantage to the team that finished higher in the regular season, and debate over its fairness flares up almost every year. The home run itself is backed by hard numbers — exit velocity and estimated distance — but it’s worth noting that context like the opposing pitcher’s background or the opposing team’s form can’t be fully judged from thread comments alone.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Geinou Sports Express+) thread “[MLB] Munetaka Murakami’s First Postseason Homer — Massive 134m Go-Ahead Two-Run Shot Silences Road Crowd”.

  • Watching MLB’s Postseason Sets Off 5ch Brawl: Is NPB Really ‘Lower Level’?

    A post titled “Once you watch the MLB postseason, Japanese baseball just isn’t watchable” appeared on 5ch’s Hello! Project board, sparking a mix of comments praising MLB players’ power and skill level and counterarguments that NPB has its own unique charm. During the very game being broadcast at the time, Munetaka Murakami hit a go-ahead two-run home run, and the thread also lit up over a joking “translation” of the broadcaster’s call, “Show Me the Mune.” The discussion expanded to cover whether it’s fair for a team with a losing record to still reach the postseason via a wild card, and broader differences in how fans value result-based stats like win totals.

    1AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:12
    Low-level players
    Lame uniforms
    Lame cheering
    2AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:15
    Every sport in Japan has embarrassingly lame cheering style
    28AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:42
    Re: #2
    Is it really so bad if an idol gets caught on camera going all-out dancing off duty? C'mon, that's fine, right?
    4AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:21
    The power to send a 160+ km/h fastball into the stands without even trying
    Once you get used to seeing laser-like throws made from off-balance positions
    you really do feel how far Japanese baseball still has to go
    I think the time has come to develop and send out players who can hold their own in MLB, even if it means sacrificing excitement back home
    6AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:22
    Re: #1
    MLB's so low-level that Japanese guys are just running wild out there
    7AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:26
    You're about a quarter century late jumping on this bandwagon
    Though I'm from the Pete Rose generation myself, half a century back
    10AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:28
    Re: #7
    Wait, are you in your 80s?
    9AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:27
    Soccer does way better on the world stage though
    14AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:29
    Re: #9
    Even though it can't even manage to be Asia's weakest champion?
    11AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:28
    They're both fun, so just make peace already
    Sumo's doing just fine too, y'know
    12AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:28
    Re: #10
    I'm pushing 60
    I just want some sympathy here
    15AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:29
    Re: #12
    Ah, so you're the kid who used to watch the MLB broadcasts on Fuji TV
    17AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:30
    There's a game on right now, actually
    Murakami just hit a go-ahead 2-run homer
    19AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:31
    Re: #17
    Getting beaten by a guy like Murakami — what a low level lmaooooo
    18AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:31
    NHK's got the playoffs on right now, but I can't stop yawning
    20AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:33
    Japan's absolute top-of-the-top players dominating doesn't mean MLB is low-level
    Honestly, the only one who could be called truly dominant this season is Yoshinobu Yamamoto, and even he's losing the MVP race to Mijiorowski
    Conversely, by your own logic, that means NPB — where a second-tier guy like Reyes who couldn't hack it in MLB can dominate — is way beyond just "low-level," right?
    21AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:33
    Re: #15
    Can't remember if it was Fuji TV, but yeah, that's the one
    Also "Diamond Soccer" (a classic old Japanese soccer program)
    22AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:34
    Well, if you ask me which one I like more, I'd say baseball
    24AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:37
    I lived a life wishing Kazuhiko Endo would hold me (gushing over the old NPB pitcher)
    26AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:40
    Nah, it's MLB >>> NPB >>>>> KBO, so don't worry
    29AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:45
    Had it set to record but missed Murakami's two-run shot
    Glad the commentator's Imanaka though, love that guy (former NPB pitcher Masaaki Imanaka)
    30AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:49
    Iguchi was on too
    NHK, quit it with the double-commentator thing
    It just makes everyone miserable
    31AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:50
    The toughest part is there isn't a single team willing to shell out a billion yen — all they think about is squeezing players for cheap
    32AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:53
    That's because Japanese fans don't see baseball as a numbers sport — they see it through human relationships
    33AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:57
    In the comments on Murakami's homer, someone "translated" the broadcaster's "SHOW ME THE MUNE" as "show me the money" after way too much deliberation
    Turns out "Mune" doubles as "money" too (a pun on Murakami's first name, Munetaka)
    35AnonymousOct 4, 2026 03:59
    There are fans who properly look at the advanced stats, and players do make use of tracked data
    But the majority of Japanese baseball fans still think a pitcher's win-loss record is worth something when judging their ability
    36AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:02
    Win totals are basically like a perfect-attendance stamp for morning calisthenics
    They're just a finished result — not a stat that tells you anything about the future
    40AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:07
    Re: #36
    Even with a losing record you can still make the playoffs — typical of the "Lame-jors" (a jab combining dame, meaning "no good," with "Majors")
    37AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:02
    MLB, where a gimmick like being a two-way player actually works
    39AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:04
    If you're gonna bother experimenting with the two-way thing, you might as well do it at the very highest level
    41AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:10
    Setting up a wild card for the sake of putting on a good show makes total sense
    42AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:12
    Once you've watched a real sport, you just can't sit through something as low-level as MLB
    44AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:13
    It probably makes sense as a business, but even in Japan it'd be a letdown if a team sitting 13+ games behind the Hawks still got to play in the postseason
    Winning a handful of postseason games doesn't exactly make you the league's representative
    51AnonymousOct 4, 2026 04:35
    Oh, Adell moved to the Guardians
    60AnonymousOct 4, 2026 05:13
    Re: #51
    Yeah, he got traded there this summer
    55AnonymousOct 4, 2026 05:04
    Isn't it weird that the White Sox get to play the division-winning Guardians next round?
    Kind of makes winning the division pointless
    61AnonymousOct 4, 2026 05:15
    Re: #55
    The other matchup is the AL East champion Rays against the AL East runner-up Yankees, so…

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    MLB’s postseason format lets not just each division’s champion in, but also “wild card” teams that missed the division title — meaning that in some years, a team with a big losing record within its own division can still advance. What split the thread was the clash between the view that, going by individual players’ power and defensive skill, “MLB is simply the higher level,” and the counterargument that “that’s comparing elite players to elite players, not the overall quality of the leagues.” On win totals as a stat, some pointed out that, from a sabermetrics standpoint, they don’t directly reflect a pitcher’s true skill — but that’s a point baseball fans themselves are split on, and the thread’s opinions shouldn’t be taken as representing fans as a whole. It’s also worth noting that the parts of the discussion that branched into comparisons with soccer and sumo weren’t based on any shared yardstick for a sport’s popularity — they were simply individual posters’ impressions.

    ※This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Once you watch the MLB postseason, Japanese baseball just isn’t watchable.”