Category: Baseball

  • Hanshin Clinch the Pennant — Five Fans Dive Into Dotonbori in a Row; 5ch: “Shibuya for Soccer, Dotonbori for Hanshin — It’s Tradition”

    On the night of October 3, 2026, after Hanshin clinched back-to-back Central League pennants, the now-traditional “Dotonbori Dive” kicked off in Osaka’s Dotonbori River. The moment the title was decided, five men dove in one after another, egged on by the crowd — one of them jumped in three times solo — and the scene was electric, with a confirmed total of 6 people diving in 9 times combined so far. It all unfolded under the watch of more than 800 police officers on security duty. On 5ch, some took it in stride, saying “Shibuya for soccer, Dotonbori for Hanshin — it’s tradition,” while plenty of others questioned whether the people diving in were really Hanshin fans or just opportunists looking for an excuse to cause a scene.

    2026.10.03 (Sat)

    On the 3rd, the day Hanshin’s Central League back-to-back pennant was decided, the diving began again this year in the Dotonbori River in Minami, Osaka.

    The moment the pennant was clinched, five men dove in one right after another. Egged on by the crowd, each splash set off a huge roar. Swept up by chants of “one more!”, one tough guy dove in three times on his own. So far, 6 people have made a combined 9 splashes into the Dotonbori River.

    Source: daily.co.jp / Original article here

    12AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:05
    Shibuya for soccer,
    Dotonbori for Hanshin — it's tradition
    13AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:05
    Yeah, same as always
    There's too many people to stop them, so what can you do
    14AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:06
    Didn't they try to make it impossible to dive in this time?
    20AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:09
    Re: #14
    replying to myself
    watched the clip and got it
    pretty much all of them went in the water
    15AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:06
    Perfect chance to field-test tasers and they're breaking out stun guns instead
    16AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:07
    It's not legendary unless the cops dive in too
    18AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:08
    They should just dive off Abeno Harukas instead (Japan's tallest skyscraper, located in Osaka)
    19AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:09
    What's the matter, officers?
    Is that thing hanging off your belt just a toy?
    22AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:10
    Re: #1
    The "Han-criminals" (a mocking nickname for Hanshin, playing on how "Hanshin" sounds like "crime") quietly clinched the pennant while everyone was busy watching the Asian Games lol
    23AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:10
    Same as the Shibuya soccer crowd — these guys probably aren't even real fans
    25AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:13
    Just occurred to me —
    maybe these aren't Hanshin fans at all,
    maybe they just want an excuse to cause a scene?
    31AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:15
    Re: #25
    Probably, but some of them are wearing the team jersey…
    kind of hard to say "I'm not a fan" when you're wearing the uniform
    39AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:20
    Re: #25
    Re: #35
    The Osaka-based media eggs it on too, which makes the bad influence even worse
    26AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:13
    There was a hilarious blog post from someone who wore a Hara jersey (Tatsunori Hara, legendary manager of Hanshin's archrival Yomiuri Giants) into Dotonbori back in 2003
    27AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:13
    When Hanshin won the pennant in 2003,
    an estimated 5,300 people dove into Dotonbori
    28AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:14
    Imagining illegally dumped junk and getting impaled on something — there's no way I could jump in
    30AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:14
    Wasn't there someone who died after dunking their head in that filthy water?
    35AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:15
    Hey Tokyo-based old media, stop automatically branding anyone who dives into Dotonbori a Hanshin fan
    36AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:16
    I hear it's gotten reasonably cleaner compared to the old days

    Still looks filthy to me though (´・ω・`)
    40AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:20
    Just put up a sign that says "Absolutely No Diving"
    and stick it in the hands of the Colonel Sanders statue (the KFC mascot statue that was famously thrown into this very river back in 1985)
    41AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:22
    These guys just want to cause a ruckus — they're not real fans
    44AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:24
    Hanshin wins right after my dad passed away… I can't feel anything about it
    I just want to go back to that day 41 years ago, watching them win in the living room with my family…
    45AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:25
    If I were from Kansai,
    I'd build a pool called "Dotonbori"
    and let people dive into that instead
    Even a tiny entry fee would make a fortune
    46AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:26
    Just climbed out of the water myself — the lingering summer heat wrapped up early this year, so it's cold
    47AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:26
    Why is it that soccer fans get slammed for this,
    but when Hanshin wins it's treated like harmless victory fun?
    49AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:28
    Koshien Stadium is actually pretty far from Dotonbori, you know (Koshien is Hanshin's home stadium)
    50AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:29
    I wonder how many people actually dove in back in 1985
    That's where this whole thing started, right?
    52AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:30
    Hanshin really did get strong, huh
    I guess the turning point out of their dark ages was when Hoshino became manager (Senichi Hoshino, former Hanshin manager)
    54AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:30
    Whoever dives in, just leave them sunk in that river for good
    58AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:36
    Just release some sharks or piranhas downstream
    68AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:40
    Re: #58
    Apparently piranhas are surprisingly timid and almost never attack people
    63AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:38
    Is Dotonbori actually clean these days?
    It used to be a river crawling with E. coli and who knows what else •́ω•̀)?
    67AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:39
    Re: #63
    Still dirty, but way better than it used to be

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    The Dotonbori Dive is said to have become a tradition after Hanshin’s 1985 pennant win, and records suggest an estimated 5,300 people dove in when the team won again in 2003. At the same time, stories of deaths linked to the river’s poor water quality have been passed down over the years, so safety concerns linger beneath the festive mood. The thread split over whether the people diving in are genuinely Hanshin fans or just opportunists looking for an excuse to cause a scene — some pointed out that divers wearing team jerseys suggest real fandom, while many others argued they’re not real fans at all. Commenters also noted a double standard: celebratory chaos at Shibuya Scramble Crossing after soccer matches is often criticized, while the Dotonbori Dive tends to get a pass as a “traditional event.” Although the river’s water quality is said to have improved in recent years, ensuring safety and covering the cost of security remain ongoing challenges.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Breaking News+) thread “Dotonbori Dive kicks off after Hanshin’s pennant win — Five fans belly-flop in a row the instant it’s clinched! Tiger fans in a frenzy! Chaos erupts with shouting amid tight security from over 800 police officers… [Ailuropoda melanoleuca★]“

  • Hanshin Tigers Win Back-to-Back Central League Titles for the First Time Ever — 5ch Reacts: ‘It’s a V! No, It’s a VV!’

    The Hanshin Tigers have clinched the Central League pennant for a second straight year, the first back-to-back title in the club’s history. The same day, DeNA beat the Yomiuri Giants 5-2, a result that locked the Giants into a season-ending 2nd-place finish. Tigers fans kept up the Osaka tradition of diving into the Dotonbori River in celebration, with police on alert as the party spilled out into the streets. On 5ch, the mood was festive, but mixed in were complaints about the Central League’s overall decline in quality and hopes for an underdog upset in the Climax Series.

    DeNA 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 1 0 |5

    Giants 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 |2

    [Battery]

    Source: nikkansports.com / Original article here

    4AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:30
    IT'S A V!!!!!!!!!!!!
    113AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:36
    Re: #4
    Not just a V — it's a VV!!
    24AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:31
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HRW9qptbsAAEUMT.jpg
    30AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:31
    Doesn't DeNA (the BayStars) get that 2-win CS advantage too?
    50AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:32
    Re: #30
    Not unless Hanshin loses four straight from here on.
    70AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:34
    Re: #30
    The possibility's still alive.
    49AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:32
    Let's go dive into the Dotonbori!
    72AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:34
    Did Inoue just pitch enough to stay injury-free?
    119AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:36
    Re: #72
    The CS matters more, after all. Better to save him for that than bank on Hanshin losing four in a row.
    93AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:35
    Why wasn't Reynolds the one closing it out?
    Well, Hamaji shut it down, so it's fine.
    123AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:37
    Re: #93
    Because he's been gassed and blowing saves lately.
    110AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:36
    I'm in Kansai but man, there's zero buzz. Even the Central League's flagship Tigers-Giants race doesn't have the tension of the soccer or volleyball Asian championships…
    118AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:36
    Re: #110
    What's that about washed-up ('owakon') soccer that can't even get people excited after losing to Korea again?
    120AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:37
    Hey, when's the victory toss happening?
    Tomorrow, after they lose?
    128AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:37
    Re: #120
    Once they're back at Koshien, I'd guess.
    121AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:37
    Sounds like the Giants' regulars were off playing in the farm-team championship today
    Next, pin your hopes on them for the farm-team Japan Series instead.
    148AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:39
    Re: #121
    Nah, the farm championship is strictly a second-string roster thing.
    130AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:37
    Championship specials across Kansai stations
    22:10 SUN
    23:00 ABC
    23:50 NHK
    24:55 YTV
    24:58 MBS
    26:15 KTV
    154AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:39
    Re: #130
    Guess I'll catch it on Sun TV.
    135AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:38
    This season really drove home how weak the Central League has gotten.
    People have said it a thousand times, but it's just wrong that Hanshin couldn't run away with a league this soft.
    Even the clinch itself was anticlimactic — the Central League is honestly pathetic.
    153AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:39
    Re: #135
    Way too many close games thrown away on errors…
    159AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:40
    Re: #135
    Seriously, this.
    That ending summed up this whole Central League season.
    146AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:38
    Just you wait, Hanshin
    Yokohama's gonna wreck it all for you in the short series.
    155AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:39
    Re: #146
    More importantly, with a 10-game lead they're about to get that 2-win advantage too.
    168AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:41
    Where are they even gonna hold Kyuji's victory toss?
    https://n.picvr.net/2610032133312964.jpg
    173AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:41
    Finally got the pennant, huh
    But I bet SoftBank takes the actual Japan Series.
    194AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:43
    Re: #173
    The Japan Series these days is basically just an exhibition, like the All-Star Game.

    It's more of a bonus on top of the league title — nice to have, but no big deal if you miss it.
    175AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:41
    For someone whose teenage years fell in Hanshin's 'dark age,' I never dreamed I'd live to see this.
    The Japan Series? Never heard of it… (said in a trembling voice — a classic meme deadpan)
    184AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:43
    Re: #175
    The Japan Series really is just a bonus.
    More like a friendly scrimmage against the Pacific League.

    At the end of the day, the league title is everything.
    178AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:42
    What is wrong with you, Hodo Station
    Don't just skip over the pennant win!
    187AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:43
    Re: #178
    Tomorrow's Ohtani game matters more to them.
    205AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:44
    Osaka's got Gamba and Cerezo for soccer too, but
    are there actually more baseball fans here?
    211AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:45
    Re: #205
    Nobody cares about the ball-kicking around here.
    The supporters are all middle-aged guys anyway.
    At Koshien, there are way more kids in the stands.
    212AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:46
    Re: #205
    Osaka's always been more into baseball than soccer.
    High school baseball is strong here, but high school soccer is on the weaker side.
    222AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:48
    Re: #205
    It's like Hanshin >>>>>>> Orix + Cerezo + Gamba + Vissel Kobe combined — that's the size of the gap we're talking about.
    213AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:46
    Would be great if the CS wraps up with DeNA vs. the Fighters in the Japan Series.
    217AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:47
    Re: #213
    If they could actually pull off an upset, they wouldn't be everyone's favorite doormat.
    225AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:48
    Re: #213
    It's not like it's pointless.
    If only the pennant winner ever showed up, there'd be no reason to even run a CS.
    233AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:50
    This one's from '23, but it's hands-down the cleanest Dotonbori dive lol

    Background and talking points

    This marks Hanshin’s first-ever back-to-back Central League title, and the thread’s reaction shows just how much it means to fans old enough to remember the team’s long “dark age” of losing seasons. Diving into the Dotonbori River has been an Osaka tradition since the team’s 1985 Japan Series championship, and it’s now such a fixture that police deploy extra patrols for it every year. The Climax Series (CS) gives the league champion a win-advantage, and while several commenters in the thread wrote off the Japan Series as “just a bonus,” that’s not wrong in terms of the standings — though it’s worth noting the Japan Series still draws far more attention and bigger crowds in practice. Complaints about a decline in the Central League’s overall quality were common too, but no hard numbers backed it up — it came across more as an impression shaped by how many close games were lost to errors.

    ※ This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisoku+) thread “[Baseball] Central League: Giants 2-5 DeNA [10/3] — Hanshin Tigers clinch first-ever Central League back-to-back title; DeNA locks in a winning record; Giants finish the season in 2nd place.”

  • Hanshin Tigers Clinch Back-to-Back Pennant — Kansai TV Stations Scramble Special Coverage, 5ch: “Sorry for Being Too Strong, lol”

    On October 3, 2026, the Hanshin Tigers clinched their second consecutive Central League pennant. Kansai TV stations scrambled to put together special programming into the late night, with Sun Television and ABC Television among those arranging special broadcasts and emergency live radio programs. On 5ch threads, alongside voices celebrating the title, talk turned to the different ways baseball is received in Kansai versus Kanto, and wariness about people jumping into the Dotonbori canal — the thread was dominated by chatter about the regional gap in excitement.

    2026-10-03 22:18

    Professional baseball’s Hanshin Tigers clinched their first-ever back-to-back Central League pennant on the 3rd. Kansai TV stations hastily moved into special-programming mode into the late night of the same day.

    ■Sun Television

    Source: oricon.co.jp / Original article here

    7AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:28
    Huh, so this is where Igawa ended up
    62AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:44
    Re: #7
    Guess he's not heading back to Ibaraki, huh
    8AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:28
    Championship special or not, it's just the same old rehash of player interviews and season highlights lol
    11AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:29
    Sorry for being too strong lol
    103AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:59
    Re: #11
    We're not even that strong this year 😢
    13AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:29
    If it were Hanshin, they'd have what it takes to make the World Series in MLB too, right?
    22AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:31
    Re: #13 SoftBank looks like it could go pretty far too, eh
    27AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:33
    Re: #13
    They did beat the Dodgers and the Cubs back-to-back last spring
    Sato even hit one into the right field stands off Cy Young winner Snell
    14AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:29
    Happened to be traveling in Osaka, and Dotonbori was under special alert too
    15AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:29
    Last year everyone said winning in a landslide was boring, now that they won it after dragging it out people complain they're weak
    20AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:30
    Has anyone jumped into Dotonbori yet?
    54AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:42
    Re: #20
    136 Anonymous (much obliged) 2026/10/03 (Sat) 21:38:13.12 ID:Gp09dZrn0
    Dotonbori
    https://sp.live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv351513884
    60AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:44
    Re: #54
    Wanting to be best friends with a toilet for a week — now that's real 'V yanen' spirit (a Kansai-dialect catchphrase for celebrating a win)
    34AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:35
    So people living in Kansai get hit with Hanshin harassment on top of Ohtani harassment (slang for nonstop saturation coverage)?
    Rough.
    35AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:35
    Is Osaka actually hyped about this?
    105AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:59
    Re: #35
    Honestly it's not that hyped lol
    40AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:36
    Re: #34
    The morning greeting here is literally 'how'd the Tigers do yesterday' lol
    42AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:38
    Re: #40
    Sounds like a living hell
    Glad I live in Kanto
    49AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:40
    Re: #42
    You went out of your way to come to this thread too, clearly curious
    Just be honest with yourself
    61AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:44
    Re: #42
    Classic Kanto guy lol
    44AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:39
    Re: #1
    ABC is also doing emergency live radio
    *From midnight for one hour it's the SixTONES show

    46AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:40
    Osaka TV is wall-to-wall Hanshin, it's exhausting
    67AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:46
    Re: #46
    Well, it pulls better ratings than the Japan national soccer team
    Four hours straight and always on top — it's a cash cow
    63AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:45
    They won again?
    Winning too much kind of cheapens the value of winning, doesn't it lol
    65AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:46
    Re: #63
    Say that after they win the Japan Series too
    They've got fewer Japan titles than Yokohama anyway
    86AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:54
    Kansai and Fukuoka are the only places baseball culture is still alive
    Hiroshima's already faded out
    97AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:58
    Re: #86
    That's only ever been true when they're winning
    94AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:57
    Living in Kanto, baseball just isn't broadcast at all — feels like a different planet
    100AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:59
    Re: #94
    Tokyo MX does technically air Hawks games on a sub-channel, for what it's worth
    102AnonymousOct 3, 2026 22:59
    Hanshin's schedule
    Oct 4: DeNA vs Hanshin, Yokohama, 18:00
    Oct 5: No game
    Oct 6: Hanshin vs Hiroshima, Koshien, 18:00

    Tomorrow on the 4th, they'll probably do the player toss after the Yokohama game, then the beer-pouring celebration at a Yokohama hotel.
    Since there's no game on the 5th, they can party until morning.
    106AnonymousOct 3, 2026 23:00
    Re: #102
    It's happening right now

    Background and Key Points

    It’s easy to overlook that what Hanshin clinched was the league pennant (regular-season title), a separate honor from being crowned Japan’s best by winning the Japan Series. The thread shows some mixing-up of the two, but what comes over the next few days is the player toss and beer-pouring celebration — the fight for the Japan Series crown is still ahead. It’s also not unusual for Kansai local stations to pull strong ratings with championship specials; in many teams’ home franchise regions, terrestrial broadcasts of the local club’s games are still the norm. Regional baseball culture that doesn’t translate well to national broadcasts can be hard for people in Kanto to grasp, which is why the thread kept circling back to how differently the moment ‘looks’ depending on where you live. At the same time, the annual frenzy — like people jumping into the Dotonbori canal — also came up, blending the joy of the title with the chaos surrounding it.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinosupo Sokuhou+) thread “[V yanen!] Hanshin Tigers Win the Pennant — Kansai TV Stations Scramble Into Special Programming Mode, Including ABC TV’s ‘Tora-ban SP: Oh No, Oh No, Hanshin Went and Won Back-to-Back!!’ and More [Ailuropoda melanoleuca★].”

  • Hanshin Clinch Pennant as Giants Fall, Securing Franchise’s First-Ever Back-to-Back Title

    On October 3, 2026, the Hanshin Tigers clinched the pennant. Ironically, the Tigers themselves lost their own game that day — the title was only secured when the second-place Yomiuri Giants lost theirs, a so-called “clinched by someone else’s loss” win. Because the pennant was decided on the road, there was no champions’ toss (doage) at the stadium; that celebration is now expected to be held later at the team’s beer-splashing party instead. For manager Koji Fujikawa, it marks the franchise’s first-ever back-to-back championship since he took charge. On 5ch, some posted “I’ve never seen such a lame way to win a pennant,” while others pointed out that similarly messy pennant deciders have happened before — turning the manner of the win itself into the hot topic of debate.

    1AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:24
    Guess it's about time to head over to the beer-splash venue.
    2AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:24
    Are they gonna do the champions' toss (doage) at the venue too?
    6AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:26
    Re: #2
    You get to knock out both at once, what a deal.
    3AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:25
    I don't have a good feeling about winning the Climax Series.
    4AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:25
    So the toss happens at Yokohama Stadium?
    Wonder if Fujinami and Yamato will show up too.
    8AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:26
    Kept waiting around after an away game, only to win because the 2nd place team lost — gotta be the worst way to clinch a title.
    Would've been perfect if the Giants-DeNA game had gone to extras before the Giants lost.
    43AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:12
    Re: #8
    Back in the day the Giants clinched on a walk-off loss to Hanshin and still did the champions' toss amid huge excitement.
    9AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:27
    Funny to picture them scrambling to set everything up last-minute right now.
    12AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:29
    Re: #9
    Nah, there was a real chance of this happening, so they've probably been on standby at the hotel ever since the game ended.
    13AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:29
    Tough that there's no footage of the champions' toss at the stadium itself.
    TV media people must be gutted.
    14AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:29
    Kinda want them to pull a surprise early beer shower.
    15AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:30
    Hanshin clinching the pennant because they lost, thanks to the third-place BayStars beating the Giants, is peak "Gian" behavior and I love it lol (a pun on the Giants' nickname "Gian," after the bully character in Doraemon)
    16AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:31
    Re: #15
    And then Hanshin's probably just gonna lose to the BayStars in the playoffs anyway.
    17AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:32
    Giants lost, lmao.
    So is Hanshin doing the toss now? lol
    18AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:32
    Well, they've still got a game left at Koshien, so they could hold an after-party there too — though who knows if they will.
    19AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:34
    Osaka police scrambling to beef up security at Dotonbori too.
    20AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:34
    Wonder if a 2026 championship retrospective show will use footage from the Yokohama-Giants game.
    21AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:35
    C'mon BayStars, just let 'em lose already lol
    23AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:36
    Re: #21
    If the BayStars finish with a losing record it affects their Climax Series advantage, so they can't slack off until they get one more win.
    24AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:38
    For Hanshin fans, which is better — a Yokohama win or a loss?
    26AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:39
    Re: #24
    Just want it decided already.
    25AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:38
    Couldn't they just do the toss at spring training camp?
    27AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:39
    Lost today. Not even at home. Clinched because the 2nd place team lost.

    Isn't this one of the lamest pennant deciders in history? Totally kills the hype.
    28AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:41
    No champions' toss then?
    29AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:44
    Re: #28
    Won't they do the toss at the beer-splash venue instead?
    32AnonymousOct 3, 2026 20:55
    I've got errands in Namba, so please don't do this today, I'm begging you.
    46AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:15
    The fact that Fujikawa is now the first manager in franchise history to win back-to-back titles.
    51AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:21
    Re: #46
    Huh, so they'd never actually won back-to-back before.
    60AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:25
    Do you get arrested for jumping into the Dotonbori River? Or is that fine these days?
    101AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:33
    Never seen such a lame way to clinch a title before 😂
    106AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:34
    Re: #101
    Actually, when the Giants won it in 2002, it was even more of a disaster.
    124AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:39

    lol
    126AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:41
    Re: #124
    For real? They're in Hiroshima?
    128AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:44
    Re: #126
    They're doing it in the lobby of a hotel in Hiroshima.
    131AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:45
    Re: #128
    Saiki's move to the majors just got pushed back a year.
    129AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:44
    Since the switch to a two-league system in 1950, this is the first time the final standings for a back-to-back title have read "Hanshin 1st, Giants 2nd."
    It puts an end to the franchise's losing history in head-to-head pennant races against the Giants.
    138AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:48
    Looking forward to the championship sales.
    140AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:50
    Re: #138
    Joshin's good for that, right? (Joshin Denki, the electronics chain known for big championship discounts)
    144AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:53
    Who's in last place and getting trashed for it?
    146AnonymousOct 3, 2026 21:57
    Re: #144
    Either Yakult or Chunichi.

    Background and Key Debate Points

    So-called “clinched by someone else’s loss” pennant wins aren’t unusual in Japanese pro baseball — commenters in the thread note that the Giants’ 2002 title was decided in a similarly messy way. What stood out this time is that, since the switch to a two-league system in 1950, this is the first time a back-to-back championship has come with the final standings reading “Hanshin 1st, Giants 2nd” — also marking manager Koji Fujikawa’s first repeat title since taking charge. The thread split over whether to call the manner of the win “lame,” or to say the result is all that matters regardless of how it happened. Note that because the pennant was clinched on the road, there was no champions’ toss at the stadium; that ceremony is expected to be held separately at the team’s beer-splashing party. It’s an easy point to mix up: the moment a pennant is clinched and the toss/beer-splash celebration don’t necessarily happen at the same place or on the same day.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Breaking] Hanshin Tigers Clinch Pennant Tonight.”

  • Hanshin’s Title Win Triggers Lockdown in Osaka’s Minami District — 2-Meter Tarps on the Bridge, Police Officers Lined Up to Stop Dotonbori River Dives

    On October 3, 2026, with the Hanshin Tigers on the verge of their second straight Central League pennant, the area around Osaka’s Dotonbori River was placed under what may be its tightest security ever. To stop fans from diving into the river — a tradition whenever Hanshin wins the title — about 50 police officers were stationed on Ebisu Bridge, 2-meter-high blue tarps were hung along the railings, and the riverside walkway was closed off entirely. On 5ch, comments arguing “no matter what countermeasures they put up, people will find a loophole and dive in anyway” clashed with a “let them do what they want, it’s on them” self-responsibility stance, and the discussion expanded into comparing the unruly behavior of baseball fans versus soccer fans.

    Hanshin Title Win: Osaka’s Minami District Under Extreme Security to Stop Dotonbori River Dives — 2-Meter Blue Tarps on the Bridge, Police Officers Lined Up, Riverside Walkway Closed to Pedestrians

    With the Hanshin Tigers on the verge of their second straight Central League pennant on the 3rd, the area around Osaka’s Dotonbori River was placed under extremely tight security.

    On Ebisu Bridge — where crowds have gathered and dived into the Dotonbori River during past title celebrations — about 50 police officers stood guard, thoroughly blocking people from getting near the bridge railings.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    2AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:22
    Heard that river's disgustingly filthy…
    6AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:23
    Re: #2
    Actually it got way cleaner once Ishin (the Osaka Ishin no Kai party) took over local government
    3AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:23
    Heads up, if the Giants lose tonight, somebody's probably gonna dive in too
    4AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:23
    Komeo: "Just opened a Dotonbori ramen shop" (a recurring deadpan non-sequitur joke format on these boards)
    5AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:23
    Just let them do whatever they want
    Same as the Shibuya Halloween crowd or whoever else causes chaos elsewhere
    They're not even Hanshin fans, just people who want to act like idiots
    9AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:25
    Of course this just makes people want to break through it
    10AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:26
    No matter what you do, they're gonna dive in
    Because that's Osaka for you
    12AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:26
    Even if Osaka Prefectural Police threw all 8 million residents at surrounding the river, it's pointless — those guys will spot a gap and dive in anyway
    13AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:27
    Raise the difficulty and people just want to clear the stage even more
    15AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:29
    Jump in and you'll get wrecked by E. coli
    23AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:33
    Just leave them be and fish out the bodies afterward
    25AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:34
    Re: #23
    So they're putting up sheets along the riverbank to stop people from climbing back out of the river?
    24AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:34
    Oh, the blue tarps are just a visual blocker?
    I thought they were stretching them over the water surface to scoop out anyone who fell in
    26AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:35
    They should just let them have their fun
    What a boring world we've become
    28AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:37
    This bizarre tradition made the Dotonbori River incredibly famous
    As Japan's most famous sewage ditch
    29AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:38
    They cleared out the trash and cleaned it up, right?
    They should just let people dive in 🥺
    30AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:40
    Keep the Colonel tied down (a nod to the 1985 "Curse of the Colonel," when fans threw a KFC Colonel Sanders statue into the river)

    Played baseball in high school
    Made us go from the 4th station to the summit
    and back, twice
    On New Year's Day, no less

    Looking back, I think youth is better spent hanging out with friends and girls than doing club activities
    This was back before cell phones existed
    34AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:45
    We're already at the point where if you dive into Dotonbori, people around you will just say "that joke bombed" (すべる means both "to slip" and, in comedy slang, "to flop" — a pun since diving = literally slipping)
    35AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:48
    These days the bridges get blocked off, so people just jump in from along the riverbank instead
    If they really want to stop it, they'd have to barricade both entire banks
    Bottom line, no matter what they do it's pointless
    Just leave it be, it's on them if something happens
    39AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:57
    Some idiot YouTuber's probably gonna pull something
    42AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:01
    So the riverside path is off-limits now
    Guess there's nothing left to do
    Serves Hanshin right
    43AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:02
    If the soccer team wins gold at the Asian Games, they'll get compared to this lol, pathetic
    60AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:30
    Seriously, Hanshin's winning the pennant again? What is going on
    62AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:33
    Re: #60
    Technically, if the Giants win today and Hanshin loses all of their remaining 5 games(?), the Giants would take the pennant

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Diving into the Dotonbori River became a tradition starting in 1985 when the Hanshin Tigers won the Japan Series, and Osaka Prefectural Police have beefed up security every time the team wins a title since. In the thread, some pointed out that “the water quality improved once Ishin took over,” while others noted the irony that the tighter the security, the more people seem determined to break through it. Note that the later part of the thread, which developed into comparisons of unruly behavior between baseball fans and soccer fans, included unverified claims about specific supporter groups and personal attacks, so it has not been included in this article. Some posts suggested extreme measures as “countermeasures” against the dives, but these are exaggerated internet humor rather than genuine calls to action.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisoku+) thread “[Baseball] Hanshin Title Win: Osaka’s Minami District Under Extreme Security to Stop Dotonbori River Dives — 2-Meter Blue Tarps on the Bridge, Police Officers Lined Up, Riverside Walkway Closed to Pedestrians.”

  • Tigers’ Awkward “Pennant on Standby” Night: 5ch Live-Blogs the Giants Game — “If They’d Won, We Could’ve Been Drinking Ourselves Silly”

    On October 3, 2026, the Yomiuri Giants faced the DeNA BayStars at Tokyo Dome. Earlier that day, the Hanshin Tigers had lost to the Hiroshima Carp, trimming their pennant-clinching magic number to 1 — leaving them in the unusual “championship on standby” position where a Giants loss or draw would hand them the title outright. On 5ch’s live-commentary thread, alongside speculation about the game’s outcome, talk also buzzed around tangential topics: the career of pitcher Karakawa, who is retiring at season’s end, and expectations for young prospect Kozono heading into next season. Opinions on Karakawa ranged from “he was an ace” to “younger fans probably don’t even know him,” with reactions splitting along generational lines.

    1AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:47
    Previous threads
    Giants Acting Manager Thread 161
    Giants Acting Manager Thread 162
    3AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:48
    Even China Surprised by Takefusa Kubo's Marriage — Actress Haruka Fukuhara's Fame Also Notable… Local Report Says "Soccer Players Have High Social Status"
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/b2ed603e31893c21b5845d9a7ad80b6620833545

    China: "Soccer players have high status"
    Chinese sports reporting on soccer is actually pretty solid, huh 😜
    9AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:49
    [Hanshin Tigers] Heading Toward an Unusual "Championship on Standby" — Lose to Hiroshima with Magic Number at 1, Back-to-Back Title Clinched If Giants Lose Tonight
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/aa2cb30889f7b7dfb2cbc230f086dfa6db203faf

    The Giants take on DeNA starting 6 PM at Tokyo Dome. If the Giants lose, the Tigers win the pennant; if the Giants win or draw, the title decision carries over to the 4th. An unusual "championship on standby" situation.
    11AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:50
    If it's Naoki — he's been rounding into form lately — I've got high hopes
    14AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:50
    Jingu Stadium
    End of the top of the 4th
    Yakult 0–2 Chunichi
    15AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:51
    Guess we can't go out drinking tonight, huh
    18AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:52
    Re: #15
    If they'd won, we could've been drinking ourselves silly
    19AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:52
    Just remembered — what ever happened to that amazing rookie who got picked for the season-opening series against Hanshin?
    23AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:53
    [Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fighters] Manager Tsuyoshi Shinjo Devises Drill Throwing from 4 Meters Up — Hitting Coach Toshitake Yokoo, Standing In as Pitcher: "It's a Countermeasure for Taira's High Fastballs"
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/64dfa0d5813c07d59224dbde367fed343904475b
    24AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:53
    25AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:54
    Does a player who's about to get cut even have any motivation to pitch?
    37AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:55
    So the other Kozono — not THE Kozono — is also saying goodbye, huh
    39AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:55
    So Kishida joined the team without even playing in the farm championship, and now he can't get into games either…
    40AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:56
    Does a guy at Karakawa's level even get a retirement ceremony?
    43AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:57
    Re: #40
    Karakawa did plenty, come on
    42AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:57
    Karakawa's got 80 career wins, so he's earned it
    46AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:58
    For my team that'd be like Iori — they'd definitely hold a retirement ceremony for him
    47AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:58
    Younger fans probably don't know, but Karakawa was technically an ace once
    48AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:59
    If it's our Kozono, No. 23, I'd happily take him
    49AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:00
    Just as I predicted, this looks like it's turning into an evenly matched slugfest (lit. "gappuri yotsu," a sumo term for two wrestlers locked chest-to-chest)
    51AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:00
    Re: #49
    Oh, you actually predicted that…
    52AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:01
    If his velocity picks up just a bit more, he'll be usable
    53AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:01
    Karakawa's exactly the kind of pitcher who deserves a ceremony
    54AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:01
    Hey, that other Kozono's not bad
    Maybe my team should scoop him up in development and look after him
    55AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:01
    Saturday, October 3 — Chunichi vs. Yakult, Final (25th) Matchup of the Season
    6:00 PM
    CBC Radio
    Analyst: Kenjiro Kawasaki / Play-by-play: Yusuke Sakakibara
    This is the Dragons' absolute final game of the season

    Over on Nippon Broadcasting System:
    Live coverage of the Giants–DeNA game at Tokyo Dome
    Analyst: Tomoya Satozaki / Play-by-play: Masao Morooka
    Coverage of Yakult starter Ishikawa's outing is also scheduled to air within the broadcast window
    56AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:01
    Karakawa's karaage (fried chicken) sold really well, after all (a pun on "Kara" in his name)
    57AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:02
    Kozono back in his high school days was way better than this lol
    58AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:02
    82 wins, 78 losses, 64 holds, 76 hold points

    That's plenty of a track record
    65AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:03
    You thought it was "Haru-chan" for a second there, didn't you lol
    76AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:04
    That really captures the reason Tsutsugo couldn't cut it in MLB — what a line
    81AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:05
    For a second there, the Tigers fans ("chin-wota," a mocking nickname for Hanshin fans) probably got excited
    85AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:05
    Re: #81
    Which is it, I wonder lol
    82AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:05
    Seems like the BayStars are full of guys who never managed to lock down a regular starting spot
    84AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:05
    So my team's the only one with a shot at sweeping both the top team and the farm team titles…
    91AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:07
    Oshiro's cold right now, so it's a double play for sure
    195AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:19
    No postseason roster spot for him, I guess
    Off to the Phoenix League
    200AnonymousOct 3, 2026 19:22
    Re: #195
    Hound a Giants player for a two-shot Polaroid at Miyazaki Airport and you'll get arrested

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    This particular Giants game drew attention because the Tigers found themselves in the unusual position of potentially clinching the pennant “if the Giants lose” — regardless of their own result that day — a rare setup even by NPB standards. Meanwhile, within the thread, the debate over whether Karakawa deserved a retirement ceremony threw up slightly inconsistent figures like “82 wins, 78 losses” and “80 career wins,” with posters’ memories not always lining up even as opinions were traded — a looseness typical of live-commentary threads. There were also posts harshly criticizing drafted players, but comments amounting to baseless mockery or personal insults aimed at specific players have been excluded from this article. Beyond the main game result, live-commentary threads tend to generate simultaneous chatter about front-office matters like retiring players and the fate of young prospects — a breadth of content that the thread title alone, “Giants Acting Manager Thread 163,” doesn’t really convey.

    ※This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Giants Acting Manager Thread 163.”

  • Carp Stage Late Comeback to Beat Hanshin 6-4 as Nakamura Shosei’s Go-Ahead Hit Delays Tigers’ Pennant Party

    The Hanshin–Carp game ended in a 6-4 comeback win for the Carp, extending their winning streak. Hanshin jumped out to a 4-0 lead in the first inning, but the Carp struck back in the 2nd and 3rd to take the lead, with Nakamura Shosei starring on 3 hits and 2 RBIs, including the go-ahead timely hit. That means Hanshin’s pennant-clinching has been put off. The thread was split on everything from leaving the starter in too long and the pinch-hitting calls, to questionable umpiring and plans for next season’s roster.

    Hanshin 0 0 4  0 0 0  0 0 0 |4

    Hiroshima 0 1 3  0 0 0  0 2 X |6

    [Battery]

    Source: nikkansports.com / Original article here

    7AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:39
    The bottom of the order battled hard at the end, though.

    As for Saiki (Hanshin pitcher) talking about a posting-system move — that's premature by about a million years.
    8AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:39
    What's even the point of sending up Itohara as a pinch hitter?
    128AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:55
    Re: #8
    If he gets a hit, he stays; if he flies out weakly, he's off the roster.
    9AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:39
    It's all on Sakamoto for underestimating Suekane.
    16AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:40
    Guess Hanshin will be stuck cheering for the BayStars from their hotel room.
    17AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:40
    Literally every pitcher they ran out there was no good.
    20AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:40
    If the Giants win tonight's night game and Hanshin drops all 4 of their remaining games, it's a miracle comeback title.
    Yeah… still a tall order.
    22AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:40

    They pulled off bizarre plays ("chinpa" — comically bad/blooper plays) this whole game and still lost?
    Guess they just didn't have enough chinpa in them.
    28AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:41
    Re: #22
    Two pitches that were clearly strikes got called balls, lmaoooooo
    35AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:41
    Re: #22
    Still no ABS (automated ball-strike system) — guess next year's three-peat is already locked in too.
    78AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:47
    Re: #22
    Call 6 might've been a tough one, but call 1 was inexcusable.
    25AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:40
    Alright, stopped them from doing the victory toss at Mazda Stadium! lol
    31AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:41
    Nakamura Shose didn't get caught up in the "Biohazard" mess (fans' nickname for a recent incident) — everyone figured he might, but he's not that type. Pretty impressive.
    55AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:43
    This really is peak Central League this year.
    Hanshin's just floundering all on their own.
    Sure, the franchise's first-ever back-to-back title is a lock,
    but Fujikawa Kyuji is nowhere close to a great manager.
    71AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:46
    Re: #55
    This isn't a world where a mediocre manager can pull off back-to-back titles — have you not learned that from watching since the '90s?
    106AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:51
    Guess they'll be stuck waiting around the stadium in uniform since the Giants are losing.
    Rough, but that's on them.
    120AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:53
    Re: #106
    Wouldn't it make more sense to just head over to Yokohama Stadium?
    114AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:52
    They've looked lively ever since cutting the "zombies" (dead-weight players).
    Good to see — next season actually looks promising.
    137AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:57
    Re: #114
    If they'd cut the zombies back in July, wouldn't they have had a real shot at the Climax Series?
    118AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:53
    The crowd looks like it's heading home, but I bet the players are still hanging around Mazda Stadium.
    If the title got decided while they were en route somewhere, they couldn't exactly celebrate — that'd feel all wrong.
    A win today would've clinched it outright, so they must've had the celebration all set up just in case.
    129AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:55
    Re: #118
    Doing the victory toss on enemy turf just hours after losing the actual game would look pretty lame.
    145AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:59
    Re: #118
    If it were Koshien they could just stick around, but who knows here.
    Well, tomorrow's another night game, so they'll probably still be in Hiroshima anyway.
    133AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:56
    Being in first place among just 6 teams in pro baseball isn't really worth spending all that time and money to watch.
    175AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:04
    Re: #133
    Not everyone feels that way — that's exactly why it's more popular than the "tax league" (a mocking nickname for the Pacific League).
    139AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:57
    The zombie infestation is finally over (´・ω・`)
    147AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:59
    Re: #139
    If Hazuki really said there were 6 including himself, then there's still a hidden zombie and the "Seared Fork Master" (a joking nickname) lurking somewhere.
    154AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:00
    Re: #147
    Fork's still managed to build up some trust, so…
    157AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:00
    Re: #147
    Those two still can't relax either — teams will probably line up to pass on them before the draft even starts.
    141AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:58
    Hurry up and send that guy Kinami down to the farm team already — three straight years of negative WAR.
    Drop Itohara too, his batting average is done for, and pull up some hot young guys from the minors instead.
    163AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:01
    Re: #141
    There ARE no hot young guys in form!!!!!!!
    149AnonymousOct 3, 2026 17:59
    Does Hanshin actually stand a chance against SoftBank this year?
    161AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:01
    Re: #149
    They've already got Hanshin completely figured out.
    Could end up even worse than that infamous 33-4 series.
    Though honestly, the Giants or DeNA wouldn't escape a blowout against them either.
    169AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:03
    This year's Hanshin is sitting in first place purely on the cushion they built beating up the Tokyo teams.
    176AnonymousOct 3, 2026 18:04
    Re: #169
    If the Giants were merely even with Hanshin head-to-head, they'd have won the pennant easily anyway.
    Though a Giants team that's been getting crushed by Hanshin doesn't deserve the title either.

    Background and Talking Points

    Hanshin lost to Hiroshima in regulation, pushing back the pennant-clinching decision even though their magic number had already been lit. Despite grabbing a 4-0 lead in the first inning, they let it slip away, and the thread was heavy with criticism of the starting pitcher and bullpen usage and the pinch-hitting decisions, though some posters pushed back in defense of manager Fujikawa, leaving opinion split. Several exchanges also centered on close calls — worth noting for readers is that NPB has not fully rolled out automated ball-strike assistance (the so-called “robot umpire”), so judgment on borderline pitches still comes down entirely to the umpire’s eye. Some posts questioned why regulars like Kinami and Itohara keep getting everyday at-bats, with a recurring view that this year’s Hanshin leans heavily on the individual power of its top-of-the-order hitters. Other comments tied the situation to the Giants’ results, framing the “delay” in terms of how many games remain.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt/summary of the 5channel (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Baseball] Central League C 6-4 T [10/3] — Carp win again — Nakamura Shosei’s 3-hit, 2-RBI go-ahead timely hit — Hanshin’s pennant clinch put off.”

  • If Hanshin Clinches the Pennant, Giants’ 2nd Place Is Locked In — A First-Ever Combo in Central League History

    On October 3, 2026, Hanshin headed into Hiroshima with a championship “magic number” of 1, while the Giants faced a game that would lock in their 2nd-place finish. In Central League history, there has never been a year when Hanshin won the pennant and the Giants finished 2nd (in 1962, ’64, ’85, 2003, ’05, ’23, and ’25 the Giants finished anywhere from 3rd to 5th) — attention is now on whether that will finally happen this year. On the 5ch “Giants Acting Manager” thread, alongside interest in this unprecedented combination, posters also traded unconfirmed rumors about Hayato Sakamoto’s retirement, discussed the Chunichi Dragons’ final game of the season, shared news about Hiroshima pitcher Hayato Tsunehiro’s surgery, and exchanged some light banter between Hanshin fans and Hiroshima/Chunichi fans.

    1AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:58
    Previous thread
    Giants Acting Manager 161
    3AnonymousOct 3, 2026 10:58
    ▽ Games scheduled for Sat 10/3
    G-DB (Tokyo Dome) 18:00
    S-D (Jingu) 18:00
    C-T (Mazda Stadium) 14:00
    E-B (Rakuten Mobile) 18:00
    M-H (ZOZO Marine) 18:00
    4AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:00
    Giants' Haruta Inoue "focused" heading into final game of the season — two innings away from his first-ever qualifying workload, "Best to finish off with good pitching"
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/cc59eec029a4466c62d2db1b19b339cb77aa6619
    5AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:01
    Please block Nanako Kurosaki, she's about to sneak in three posts in a row again lol

    75
    6AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:16
    Sat, Oct 3 — Chunichi vs. Yakult, 25th and final matchup of the season
    18:00
    CBC Radio
    Commentary: Kenjiro Kawasaki / Play-by-play: Yusuke Sakakibara
    This is the Dragons' very last game of the season
    7AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:47
    [Hanshin] Will Central League history's first "Hanshin 1st, Giants 2nd" finally happen? Heading into Hiroshima with a magic number of 1
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/8e3a091563a6a76bea30942ed649d6cab7d679a0

    If Hanshin clinches the pennant, the Giants' 2nd-place finish is also locked in. There has never been a "Hanshin 1st and Giants 2nd" combination in Central League history. Will new history be made?

    <Hanshin's championship years and the Giants' finish that year>

    '62: Giants 4th
    '64: Giants 3rd
    '85: Giants 3rd
    '03: Giants 3rd
    '05: Giants 5th
    '23: Giants 4th
    '25: Giants 3rd
    8AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:47
    Central League pennant race standings (as of Oct 2)
    10AnonymousOct 3, 2026 11:59
    Guess watching pro baseball on weekend afternoons is about to wrap up for the year
    13AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:07
    With Hanshin's first back-to-back pennant in sight, Osaka-area TV stations scramble to put together late-night special programming — lineups and content announced one after another
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/f2791db1bc3a78ce42bc4d0236e0194a7dd25135
    14AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:08
    Apparently Sakamoto told Kishida yesterday that he's quitting
    Maybe Sakamoto's retiring
    15AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:09
    Really glad I don't live in the Kansai area
    At least I don't have to sit through those annoying special broadcasts

    What are Giants fans in Kansai gonna do today
    37AnonymousOct 3, 2026 13:33
    Re: #15
    Giants fans in Kansai are visibly on the decline anyway
    16AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:09
    They're doing some special show apparently, but it doesn't feel like there's much hype
    17AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:10
    Central League roster moves for Sat 10/3
    [Added to active roster]
    Taichi Taka (C)
    [Removed from active roster]
    Ken Sugita (C)
    18AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:27
    Hidekazu Hashigami was crying yesterday, but it probably doesn't mean anything to the players
    19AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:27
    [Hiroshima] Taichi Taka returns to the first team after the shortest possible 10-day stint! Back to try to stop a title celebration happening right in front of him for the third year running… the lefty reliever, with 53 appearances this season, had been out since late September with neck pain
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/c9b72a392e42300589aaace6a01fe70448d73355
    21AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:45
    Didn't know Motoyama played the middle infield alongside Nakano back in their college days
    Finally get why he's being used the way he is
    23AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:51
    Once they clinch the pennant, maybe Sekimoto will finally get his "pardon" (a running injoke on this board)
    24AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:56
    ○ Asian Games — ★Going for a 7th straight title! Softball final ★Going for a 3rd straight title! Judo team event
    Saturday, October 3, 15:00-18:59, TBS

    Chasing an unprecedented 7th consecutive Asian Games title! Yukiko Ueno's Japan softball team is back for its 7th straight Games!
    Can the 44-year-old legend lead them to gold!? Japan's judo team, riding a medal rush, goes for a 3rd straight Asian title!

    ○ Asian Games ★Men's soccer final — the fated Japan-Korea clash★ Japan aims for its first gold in 16 years, plus more
    Saturday, October 3, 19:00-22:30, TBS

    Oiwa's Japan team fought through a tense semifinal to advance!
    Their rival in the final: Korea, the team that's beaten them in the final two Games running.
    Can these young samurai, the future of the national team heading into the next World Cup, finally get their revenge?
    35AnonymousOct 3, 2026 13:28
    Re: #24
    Gotta watch living legend Yukko go for it!
    27AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:58
    "If they win the pennant, he might just get it"… With Hanshin on the verge of the title, the Rookie of the Year race heats up! A right-hander with a jaw-dropping 0.00 ERA eyes a come-from-behind win — the key factor: the "pennant bonus"
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/10cd84e0f5548ac36b8e3225d87891a8ca0a2931
    29AnonymousOct 3, 2026 13:03
    Re: #27
    Tough for both Takemaru and Urata
    28AnonymousOct 3, 2026 12:59
    ▽ Games scheduled for Sat 10/3
    G-DB (Tokyo Dome) 18:00
    C-T (Mazda Stadium) 14:00 ← day game!
    ▽ Announced starters for Sat 10/3
    (G-DB) Haruta Inoue (L) vs. Shunya Shimada (R)
    (C-T) Nobuhiro Morishita (R) vs. Hiroto Saiki (R)

    Got the day wrong
    My bad
    30AnonymousOct 3, 2026 13:05
    After seeing Kudo pitch the other day, it's basically a done deal
    31AnonymousOct 3, 2026 13:08
    Urata would've been fine if that "cursed girlfriend" rumor (sageman — slang for a partner blamed for dragging down someone's career) hadn't come up
    36AnonymousOct 3, 2026 13:33
    [Hiroshima] Hayato Tsunehiro undergoes elbow "cleanup" surgery — the 2023 first-round pick made 7 relief appearances in his third pro season
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/c9918bbadaa45573a7768031f2340caf2baca507

    Hiroshima announced on the 3rd that pitcher Hayato Tsunehiro underwent "bone spur removal surgery for an olecranon osteophyte disorder" in his right elbow at a hospital in Gunma Prefecture. A recovery timeline hasn't been set, but a return is generally expected within 2-3 months.
    39AnonymousOct 3, 2026 13:36
    Re: #36
    Oh right, did Tsunehiro ever "graduate" from that (board injoke about his recurring injuries)?
    55AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:09
    Is the place packed with Hiroshima fans who just showed up to watch Hanshin win it lol
    90AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:44
    Wait, the Carp are winning!
    Could this be a comeback pennant for our team!?
    97AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:45
    Re: #90
    How many minutes behind is that info
    Did you just Google the score and post without actually watching?
    100AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:46
    Not sure which Saito you mean
    106AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:46
    Re: #100
    The Saito on the Fighters (ex-Tigers), that one
    103AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:46
    Giants fans got their hopes up for nothing right to the very end ("ぬかG" — board slang for "false-hope Giants")
    107AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:47
    Re: #103
    Guess I can't deny the Google thing about me…
    120AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:52
    Re: #107
    Hang in there, it's not over yet
    110AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:48
    The guy who throws hard but had zero control, so the Tigers let him go
    118AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:51
    Re: #110
    If that's the type, I'd guess "Toilet" (a disparaging nickname used on the board) would want him too — but that trade happened back in the Shinjo/Donden (Okada) era: Saito and Egoe for Nabe-ryo and the younger Takahama brother
    116AnonymousOct 3, 2026 14:51





    Background and Key Points

    The Giants’ finishes in years Hanshin won the pennant, as laid out in the thread (1962, ’64, ’85, 2003, ’05, ’23, ’25), were all 3rd to 5th place — the combination of Hanshin finishing 1st and the Giants finishing 2nd has never happened in Central League history. This reflects a recurring pattern where a strong Hanshin season has tended to coincide with a struggling Giants season, and attention is now on whether that pattern is finally breaking this year. The comments about Hayato Sakamoto’s retirement remain secondhand — reportedly heard from a team insider — with no confirmation from Sakamoto himself or an official team announcement, so they should be treated with caution. Opinions in the thread diverged over how to read Hanshin’s dominant run: some posters living in the Kansai area voiced weariness over the flood of special TV programming, while others pointed out that the number of Giants fans in Kansai is itself shrinking. True to form for this thread, broad pennant-race talk ran alongside standalone items like the update on Hiroshima pitcher Tsunehiro’s surgery.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Giants Acting Manager 162.”

  • Carp Release Kozono and Three Others — Rozan’s Ujihara Sparks Debate With ‘It’s Not a Legal Issue’ Comment

    On October 1, the Hiroshima Carp notified four players — Kaito Kozono, Masaya Yano, Seita Maekawa, and Shunsuke Tamura — that their contracts would not be renewed for next season. Speculation had linked Kozono to a drug-related issue uncovered within the team, but the club stated that its investigation “could not confirm” any involvement. On the YouTube channel “Rozan’s Dressing Room,” comedy duo Rozan’s Hironobu Ujihara commented on the possibility of signing the released players, saying it’s “not a legal issue, so it’s up to each team to decide” and that “no illegal conduct was ever established.” Following these remarks, opinion on 5ch split between those who felt signing the players was fine since there’s no legal problem, and those who argued no team could afford to take the risk while suspicions remain unresolved.

    Rozan’s Ujihara: On “Signing” Released Carp Player Kozono, “It’s Up to Each Team to Decide”

    Comedy duo Rozan updated their YouTube channel “Rozan’s Dressing Room” on the 2nd, discussing the Hiroshima Carp’s decision to release four players.

    On the 1st, the Carp announced they would not renew contracts with four players — Kaito Kozono, Masaya Yano, Seita Maekawa, and Shunsuke Tamura — for next season.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:36
    That's exactly why acting so sullen at the press conference was self-sabotage.
    5AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:38
    That would make the Carp look stupid for releasing him.
    7AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:40
    Re: #5
    They'll probably just end up fighting over salary and posting anyway.
    6AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:40
    "It's gray, so it's not technically illegal yet" — are you kidding? Don't use that same logic people use for legal-loophole drugs and quasi-gangster ties.
    12AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:42
    If he'd been investigated and not indicted, fine, sign him — but he hasn't been investigated, and there's still a chance he will be…
    15AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:46
    Since the Carp have publicly stated their investigation found nothing, you can't really say something actually happened.
    16AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:46
    By that logic, the Carp didn't even need to cut him.
    17AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:46
    With baseball considering introducing something like the toto BIG lottery, having someone with gangster ties around would be dangerous. I don't know about Kozono specifically, but there's history here — the sport already went through a massive scandal with the "Black Mist Incident" (a 1969 game-fixing/gambling scandal).
    18AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:48
    "Alright, let's sign him!" — yeah, that's not happening (´・ω・`)
    21AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:50
    Kind of like Sho Nakata, Norihiro Nakamura, or Koji Yamakawa.
    22AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:51
    Why would he get cut, you ask?

    In pro baseball, which has a mountain of sponsors, a drug image is seriously bad news.

    Makes you wonder what the high school ballplayers think about this too.
    42AnonymousOct 3, 2026 01:04
    Re: #22
    High school baseball has its own share of issues too lol
    23AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:52
    Everyone here is dumber than Ujihara yet still piling on him — it's kind of hilarious.
    24AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:52
    These days, any decent company that takes compliance seriously would cut ties with a business partner if there's a strong chance they're involved with organized crime. That's really all this is.
    25AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:53
    Still, with the Carp saying he's clean, the player himself denying it, and no police investigation underway, handing out social punishment seems kind of out of balance.
    38AnonymousOct 3, 2026 01:00
    Re: #25
    This isn't social punishment. Every team cuts loose 5-6 players a year who don't fit their plans — this is the same thing.
    29AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:54
    True, he hasn't even been referred to prosecutors, so technically a team could claim he's already paid his dues and sign him right now — though non-legal risks would still follow him around.
    40AnonymousOct 3, 2026 01:02
    Re: #29
    Do you even know what "referral to prosecutors" (shorui-sōken) actually means?
    49AnonymousOct 3, 2026 01:08
    Re: #29
    The two players whose homes were searched will be referred to prosecutors. Japan's Code of Criminal Procedure follows the "all-case referral" principle, so once an investigation happens, referral to prosecutors is unavoidable regardless of whether evidence is found.
    35AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:56
    Ridiculous. If a transfer gets decided, it'll end up like Sho Nakata — a scandal turning into a reward.
    36AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:58
    Re: #1
    The Giants don't care about this kind of thing. Good for you, Kozono.
    45AnonymousOct 3, 2026 01:05
    If he couldn't build a relationship of trust with the Carp, I doubt he could build one with any other team.
    50AnonymousOct 3, 2026 01:08
    Re: #45
    Hiroshima's front office is pretty much garbage. They cut four core players, and three more leaving via free agency is all but certain. Attendance has plummeted too. It's all on the front office. And honestly, after causing this much trouble and cutting players loose, it's unbelievable the front office hasn't resigned.
    46AnonymousOct 3, 2026 01:06
    The Tigers could use him, honestly — to lock down the regular shortstop spot, or at third base if Teruaki Sato ends up transferring out.
    59AnonymousOct 3, 2026 01:14
    Re: #46
    Don't need him. Kozono's shortstop defense is honestly full of holes, and the only option for Sato's replacement is developing Tateishi.
    47AnonymousOct 3, 2026 01:07
    Are you kidding? That just means honest people get screwed. Not admitting it means he hasn't reflected on anything at all. This way Hazuki ends up looking like the sole mastermind — that clearly doesn't add up. He's only "white" because they can't prove he's "black."
    52AnonymousOct 3, 2026 01:10
    Re: #47
    Where's the honest person in this? Hazuki was only found guilty because his family reported him and he tested positive.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    This season, suspicions of drug use arose around some Hiroshima Carp players and became the subject of an investigation, but for Kozono specifically, the club’s own investigation stated his involvement “could not be confirmed” — he has neither faced criminal charges nor been indicted. The thread included some back-and-forth over what “referral to prosecutors” (shorui-sōken) actually means; worth noting as context is that Japan’s Code of Criminal Procedure follows an “all-case referral” principle, meaning that once someone becomes the subject of an investigation, referral to prosecutors can happen regardless of whether evidence is found. Opinion split between those who felt the decision should be left to each team as long as no legal problem has been confirmed, and those who argued that no team worried about sponsors and fans could afford to take the risk while suspicion lingers — the disagreement ultimately comes down to how to weigh “not being found illegal” against “suspicion still remaining.” Some commenters also brought up baseball’s history of match-fixing and gambling scandals, making this a thread less about one player’s future and more about the state of compliance awareness in professional baseball itself.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “Rozan’s Ujihara: On Signing Released Carp Player Kozono, “It’s Not a Legal Issue, So It’s Up to Each Team to Decide,” “No Illegal Conduct Was Ever Established”.”

  • Hiroshima’s Kozono Leaves Fans Baffled With Listless Press-Conference Attitude — “Don’t Sulk,” “Has He Given Up?”… Manager Arai’s Painful Remark Deepens the Rift

    The press conference held by Kaito Kozono after being released by the Hiroshima Carp has become a hot topic. On top of his sudden fall from grace after a strong season the year before, his flat, unemotional demeanor during the Q&A was read by many as “listless” or “sulking,” leaving fans puzzled. Reports also noted that at the conference he denied involvement with so-called “zombie cigarettes” (slang for illegal e-cigarettes laced with synthetic compounds) and with anti-social forces (a common Japanese term for organized crime groups). On the forum thread, opinion split not only over whether his attitude really was “listless,” but also over whether a release notice like this should be understood as an outright “firing” or merely the “dissolution of a contractual trust relationship.”

    Video of the press conference

    Hiroshima’s Kozono Stuns Fans With “Listless Attitude” at Press Conference — “Don’t Sulk,” “Has He Given Up?”… Manager Arai’s Painful Remark Deepens the Rift

    Kaito Kozono of the Hiroshima Carp, who was handed a release notice, is making headlines not just for his sudden one-year collapse but also for the poor “attitude” he showed during the Q&A.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:27
    Re: #1
    According to him
    he has zero involvement with "zombie cigarettes" or anti-social forces, apparently lol
    5AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:28
    Re: #1
    Baseball really does feel like a dying genre these days
    6AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:28
    What about the manager's responsibility?
    51AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:51
    Re: #6
    I just wanna quiiiiit——!!
    13AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:32
    Even a fake cry as a joke would fool some of the dumber fans—wait, is this guy for real?
    34AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:45
    Re: #13
    People dumb enough to watch baseball come in levels of stupid beyond imagination
    they'll believe even a guy like this is innocent…
    14AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:33
    Baseball ("yakyuu," a derisive nickname some use for the sport) is nothing but gloomy news lately
    21AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:37
    Re: #14
    That's because he's the one holding the press conference
    15AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:34
    19AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:37
    Re: #15
    Stuff like this—do other teams and players do it too?
    18AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:37
    There's no evidence at all
    and yet some people are branding him a villain purely on vibes
    that's just insane
    they probably believe in trial by boiling water (kugatachi, an ancient Japanese ordeal) and witch trials too
    32AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:43
    Gotta give baseball credit for actually holding proper press conferences
    soccer just covers everything up, and when caught goes "Didn't disclose it? That's our call, isn't it?"
    a shamelessly rotten attitude you wouldn't expect from a public-interest incorporated foundation
    38AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:47
    Re: #32
    That's just because baseball players keep causing incidents serious enough to need a press conference in the first place
    there are plenty of baseball incidents that never got a press conference either
    37AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:47
    Realistically, teams would be lining up for Kozono
    even if Japanese clubs pass on him for compliance reasons
    the majors would come calling
    45AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:49
    Re: #37
    No way MLB comes calling for someone at Kozono's level, you're way overrating him
    42AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:48
    Re: #38
    It's just that he lost the team's trust, that's all
    47AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:50
    Re: #44
    Right now it's just that he lost the team's trust, and he's still holding a press conference over it
    53AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:51
    Technically everyone's still presumed innocent
    but that doesn't mean nobody can make sense of the release notice
    56AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:53
    Re: #53
    The Carp probably have evidence and already talked it over with the player
    otherwise he'd normally be suing for wrongful dismissal
    54AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:52
    Re: #46
    Of course the contract's been terminated, so what's your point?
    There's no one left who can force him to, but holding the press conference is his own choice, and it's just part of baseball culture
    60AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:55
    Re: #56
    Lying is a dealbreaker though
    Nanako Fujita got fired for that too
    62AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:55
    Re: #58
    Actually counter it properly
    what are you even saying?
    63AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:56
    Arm wrapped tight around the shoulder, looks pretty cozy lol
    https://i0.wp.com/geitopi.com/wp-content/uploads/2026071706-1.jpg
    69AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:58
    Re: #64
    I'm just saying he held a proper press conference, I never said anything like that
    whether he actually did anything illegal, I have no idea
    70AnonymousOct 2, 2026 23:58
    Re: #66
    I don't get what you're trying to say
    just spit it out
    81AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:02
    Sure his attitude was flat, but I don't think he was sulking or being listless at all
    83AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:03
    Re: #81
    If anything, Yamamuro's the one being listless about it
    82AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:03
    Re: #78
    If he was lying, then it's entirely possible
    Nanako Fujita got fired over exactly that, didn't she?
    91AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:08
    Re: #82
    The reason for the firing was "because she lied"
    it's not some vague "trust relationship" thing, right?
    95AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:11
    Re: #91
    If she lied, trust obviously gets lost
    I'm saying it's the same as Nanako Fujita, don't you get it?
    Fujita wasn't doing anything illegal either
    that's just what happens when you lie
    96AnonymousOct 3, 2026 00:11
    Re: #91
    Correction
    the reason for the firing wasn't "because she lied"
    it's "she had used zombie cigarettes or had ties to anti-social forces, and lied about that specific point"
    that's the accurate version

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    A “release notice” is the procedure Japanese pro baseball (NPB) clubs use each autumn to announce they will not renew a player’s contract, and it’s not unusual for this to apply even to a player like Kozono who was performing well just the year before. The “zombie cigarettes” mentioned at the press conference is slang for highly illegal e-cigarette products laced with synthetic compounds, an issue that has been reported on in pro baseball circles in recent years as an illicit-vaping problem. Opinion on the thread split mainly over two points. First, whether his attitude at the press conference was really “listless” at all (some pushed back, arguing he was simply calm and matter-of-fact). Second, whether a release notice can be framed the same way as an ordinary “firing,” with the debate dragging on due to differing views on the nature of the contractual relationship between a club and a player. It’s also worth noting that he has denied any involvement in the allegations, and the facts of the matter have not been established at this point.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Baseball] Hiroshima’s Kozono Leaves Fans Baffled With Listless Press-Conference Attitude — “Don’t Sulk,” “Has He Given Up?”… Manager Arai’s Painful Remark Deepens the Rift.”