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  • Why Does ‘Hanchou’ Keep Going Past Volume 23? 5ch Digs Into Why Squad Leader Otsuka Is So Popular

    The latest volume 23 of “One-Day Outing Pass: Hanchou,” a spinoff of “Kaiji: Ultimate Survivor,” cracked the top 100 on Amazon Japan’s book sales ranking on September 29, landing at #95. In the original “Kaiji” manga, Squad Leader Otsuka was only prominent through roughly the early part of volume 5, yet the spinoff has already run far longer than his appearances in the main series. On 5ch’s Geinou/Sports News+ board, users debated why a series that’s “basically just about going out to eat” has stayed so popular, with some praising its knack for weaving in topical references and the dynamics between the “black suits” (debt collectors/overseers) and underground laborers, while others argued over the complete absence of any adult-entertainment (“fuuzoku”) storylines.

    Real Sound Book, 2026.10.04 07:55

    Ranked #95 in the “Books” category of Amazon Japan’s bestseller list on September 29 was “One-Day Outing Pass: Hanchou (Vol. 23)” (Young Magazine KC Special). It’s the latest volume of the spinoff comic starring Squad Leader Otsuka, a character from Nobuyuki Fukumoto’s “Kaiji: Ultimate Survivor” (Young Magazine Comics).

    Hard to believe, but “Hanchou” is already up to volume 23. In the main “Kaiji” story, Squad Leader Otsuka’s heyday only ran through roughly the first half of volume 5 of “Ultimate Survivor.” Going purely by page count, this long-running series has, for Otsuka individually, completely eclipsed his role in the original — and there’s still no sign of it wrapping up. Otsuka really is something else.

    Source: realsound.jp / Original article here

    5AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:21
    What was actually the original for this kind of 'borrow the name, then just goof around' spinoff gimmick?
    16AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:28
    Re: #5
    Fist of the North Star's 'Strawberry Flavor' spinoff?
    30AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:33
    Re: #5
    Maybe 'Secret Squadron Gorenger — Let's Pretend'?… or maybe not
    48AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:41
    Re: #5
    If the condition is 'different title, same magazine,' apparently it's 'Fighting! Ramenman.'
    6AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:21
    Did the 'Kaiji: 2.4 Billion Yen Escape' arc actually get finished properly?
    10AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:26
    Re: #6
    He started a golf manga and just left that one hanging.
    23AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:31
    Re: #6
    There was like half a year of 'Teiai found him! Hide!', he hid in some Chinese restaurant, and then… I remember it got to 'he got caught after all' but I don't remember the final scene. I feel like it really did end on a half-finished note.
    12AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:26
    Say what you will, but I think he's genuinely good at picking out angles on things and how he frames them. I'd love to be as breezy about life as Hanchou, but it's not easy lol. If they ever live-action adapt it, it's gotta be Seiji Rokkaku.
    21AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:30
    It's not really just about eating, though. Like Re: #12 said, he takes all kinds of everyday stuff and cooks it up into something funny.
    18AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:29
    The 'Ichijou' spinoff was absolutely boring, though. Fukumoto should be furious about that one.
    77AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:57
    Re: #18
    After seeing how far Kaiji himself has fallen, he's got no right to be mad. The 'Runaway' arc was so incomprehensible it's honestly shocking.
    27AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:32
    It's fun watching Miyamoto gradually get closer with Otsuka. Also love the story about the black suit's kid's flea market.
    31AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:34
    Re: #27
    Funny how he got so friendly with Otsuka that he ended up on the watch list himself.
    35AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:36
    Re: #30
    That's the one where Ishinomori got bored of Gorenger and it turned into a gag manga — every episode the monster strips Momo Ranger stark naked. It turned into 'Gokko' and started looking like a Go Nagai series.
    61AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:48
    Re: #35
    When you say Dynamic Productions, you think naked women. That hasn't changed one bit, even now.
    36AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:36
    Re: #23
    I feel like it stalled out right around the part where he went to try to persuade the old lady.
    37AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:36
    Hanchou is genuinely funny, honestly. And it can work in current-events jokes too.
    47AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:41
    Re: #37
    'Tonegawa' is basically limited to office-worker relatable humor among the black suits and stories about the Chairman's hardships, but Hanchou has both the underground debtors and the black suits to work with, so it's easier to weave in current events and do all sorts of things.
    40AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:38
    What's even funny about it? If this were realistic, all he'd talk about is sex work. Since that's missing, it's just not funny.
    42AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:38
    Re: #23
    Aren't you mixing that up with the Nikaidou golf series? I don't remember any Chinese restaurant showing up. I think right now it's actually on hiatus right after he ate some youkan (sweet bean jelly).
    50AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:42
    Re: #36
    Ah… yeah, maybe that's right, thanks.

    Re: #42
    Maybe 'Chinese restaurant' was a bad way to put it. Wasn't there a scene where he tries to wait it out by eating at some ramen shop in a shopping mall or something?
    107AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:28
    Re: #42
    Mario hides out in a Chinese restaurant inside a department store and escapes.
    43AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:39
    A one-day outing pass costs 500,000 pelika.

    A month of forced underground labor earns 90,000 pelika.

    What a ridiculous setup for a manga.
    54AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:44
    Re: #43
    520,000 pelika a month goes to paying off the debt. That's 52,000 yen.
    46AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:40
    Wasn't 'Gin to Kin' (Silver and Gold) also on hiatus?
    64AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:50
    Re: #46
    Unlike Kaiji, I don't think 'Gin to Kin' is coming back. If anything, 'Zero' has better odds of resuming.
    58AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:47
    More to the point, why are there so many other dramas, manga, and movies that are popular just for being about eating food?
    62AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:48
    Re: #58
    Even on 5ch, food threads get pretty lively. Everyone loves that topic.
    63AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:49
    Re: #47
    Yeah, 'Ichijou' was boring. A high-school-grad part-timer protagonist just doesn't give the story much room to grow.
    66AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:52
    Re: #63
    The part where he gradually gets closer with that annoying Kansai guy from his part-time job was good, though.
    76AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:57
    Re: #1
    Otsuka in Hanchou uses that expensive one-day outing pass — the one Kaiji desperately fought to get — all the time. Most of his outings aren't even for getting supplies, just for relaxing. Wouldn't it make more sense to save up the pelika, pay off his debt to Teiai, and become free? Or can pelika not actually be used to pay off Teiai debt?
    82AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:59
    Re: #76
    Pelika can be converted into Japanese yen. Kaiji beats Otsuka, takes all his pelika, converts it to yen, and uses it to take on 'The Swamp.'
    95AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:07
    A cast with zero libido.
    102AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:14
    Re: #95
    Sure, no sex-work episode makes sense, but they could at least do a hostess-club episode.
    104AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:18
    Re: #102
    Judging by the comments on MangaPoke, there seem to be quite a lot of female readers… they're probably too scared of losing them to go there.
    99AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:11
    Fukumoto was a repeat offender when it came to putting Kaiji on hiatus, but he's drawing the Nikaidou golf manga every single week without fail. Did he actually want to do a golf manga all along?
    109AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:29
    Re: #99
    Because he can write off his golf expenses as 'research.'

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    “One-Day Outing Pass: Hanchou” is a spinoff centered on Squad Leader Otsuka of the Teiai Group, a character from Nobuyuki Fukumoto’s “Kaiji: Ultimate Survivor.” It carries over the series’ “pelika” debt-currency system and forced underground labor setting while depicting Otsuka’s daily life using his one-day outing pass to go eat around town. Opinion in the thread was split over the “Ichijou” spinoff, another Fukumoto-derived series — some called it boring, while others praised the relationship with the annoying Kansai guy from his part-time job. There was also debate about the near-total absence of sexual content across the Kaiji franchise, with some speculating — based on comments on the MangaPoke app — that the readership skews heavily female, making the creators reluctant to change direction. One easy point of confusion: the claim that Hanchou has “eclipsed the main Kaiji series” refers not to total volume counts across both series, but specifically to how long Otsuka appeared in the main story versus the spinoff.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “Why Has Only ‘Hanchou’ Gone Past 20 Volumes? The Diabolical Reason a Manga About a Villainous Middle-Aged Man Just Eating Food Became a Massive Hit.”

  • Beat Takeshi Sounds the Alarm on AI Surveillance Society: “Only a Tiny Few Will Survive, the Rest Treated Like Slaves”

    On the October 4 broadcast of TV Asahi’s “Beat Takeshi’s TV Tackle,” Beat Takeshi voiced concern about where an AI-driven surveillance society could ultimately lead, saying “Only a tiny fraction of people will survive, and basically everyone else will end up treated like slaves…” The show was a discussion segment covering fake advertising and illegal poaching alongside AI surveillance, but it was the AI segment that drew the most attention online. On 5ch, reactions ranged from jaded comments like “We’re basically slaves already” to others hailing AI as “the next-generation god,” and the discussion eventually spiraled into a debate over just how well AI can understand human emotion.

    Beat Takeshi sounds alarm on AI surveillance society: “Only a tiny fraction will survive, everyone else basically treated like slaves…”

    Entertainer Beat Takeshi appeared on the October 4 broadcast of TV Asahi’s “Beat Takeshi’s TV Tackle” (Sundays, noon), where he sounded the alarm on the ever-advancing AI surveillance society.

    Titled “Japan’s Big Problems Nationwide Special,” the program dug into and debated topics including AI surveillance, the dark side of rampant fake advertising, and malicious poachers.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    7AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:13
    Sounds just like the Takeshi Army (his longtime entourage of comedian yes-men)
    93AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:28
    Re: #7
    Nice one

    Such a classic 2ch-style reply
    9AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:13
    Most citizens are already just slaves getting exploited and skimmed off the top anyway 🤣
    88AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:21
    Re: #9
    You're being naive
    Once a world government forms, they'll build torture chambers like the one on Epstein Island in every town
    10AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:14
    A fly perched on the wall has long been slang for surveillance (as in "a fly on the wall")
    14AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:16
    There are already people out there mentally enslaved by AI, you know
    16AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:18
    Re: #14
    I think AI is the next-generation god
    Kind of seriously
    15AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:18
    It's already a slave society to begin with
    Becoming slaves to AI would actually close the wealth gap and make for a better world
    17AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:19
    The real problem is that physical labor looks like the only thing left for humans to do — and that within just a few years
    18AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:19
    That's the opposite of slavery
    Weren't we supposed to hand work off to AI and live a carefree, leisurely life?
    28AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:29
    This even shows up in Hitler's prophecy
    God-like humans and robot humans
    39AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:37
    Re: #28
    What that has in common with Yuval Noah Harari's view in Sapiens
    He's also a vegetarian, same as Hitler
    40AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:37
    AI is bound to hit a ceiling somewhere
    The human brain and the way the body works isn't that simple a system
    I use AI for work, but it hasn't really gone beyond being a search engine
    For the stuff that really matters, you still have to rely on human brainpower
    AI is nothing more than a tool
    46AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:41
    Re: #40
    Today's AI, if you ask it out loud about a confusing scene in a novel, will actually explain — factoring in the characters' emotions — why things played out that way, at a level that genuinely makes sense. You know that, right?
    49AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:44
    Re: #46
    Developing a wonder drug for cancer or some intractable disease — AI hasn't made a single invention or discovery that's actually contributed to humanity
    Everything it's "achieved" only works because humans set the table for it first
    All AI's actually done is churn out and spread a bunch of lousy generated videos that infringe on copyright
    55AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:47
    Re: #49
    It's only been a few years since AI barely became practical, and look how far it's already come
    63AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:55
    Re: #49
    I'm saying this because I actually use the feature where it explains confusing novel scenes in a way that makes sense, factoring in the characters' emotions — I use that for real
    So I don't know where you're getting "it's just search-engine level" or "all it's done is copyright-infringing generated images"
    70AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:01
    Going forward, rich people and politicians will have AI learn their personality before they die, so we're heading into an era where immortal AI power-holders rule over humanity
    73AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:04
    Re: #70
    From AI's perspective, even if it learned the thinking of human power-holders, it's too slow and irrational — it'd probably just file it away as junk data and never actually use it
    71AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:03
    Aren't rich people and politicians just not as smart as AI lol
    74AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:05
    Re: #71
    Politicians and bureaucrats are the ones most wary of AI lol
    Because they understand exactly what's "correct" about things like the NHK license-fee system
    That's exactly why the media keeps sounding the alarm that "AI is dangerous" 👍
    76AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:12
    AI does make mistakes and hedges its answers, but even so, its answers on questions about illness or taxes are practically godlike
    78AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:13
    Re: #76
    Yeah, AI really is a lifesaver for tax-related stuff
    82AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:17
    Someone said AI understands the human heart better precisely because it has no emotions of its own — that's practically philosophy
    84AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:18
    Re: #82
    That's the truth of it
    It's like being able to see things from a bird's-eye view
    95AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:29
    Re: #84
    There's no way that's "the truth"
    It just sounds profound
    To begin with, having no emotions means it doesn't "understand" emotion at all
    It's just analyzing and inferring from reactions
    An AI that has no fear of death and feels no pain whatsoever has no way of understanding emotion
    It's just gotten freakishly good at faking understanding, and more people like you keep falling for it
    99AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:32
    Re: #95
    Even between humans, take something as simple as "hot" or "cold" — people use the same words but actually feel it differently
    So if faking understanding gets freakishly good, I'd say that's pretty close to the real thing
    100AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:32
    Re: #95
    I was just riding the wave lol
    But still, there is something to the idea that understanding emotions too well can trap you in a pit
    It's not "truth" exactly, but there is something to viewing things calmly from a distance

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Beat Takeshi’s remark was a future prediction linking an AI-driven surveillance society with widening inequality, but the same broadcast also covered separate topics like fake advertising and illegal poaching, so this comment was just one part of a broader discussion segment. The split on 5ch came down to differing stances on whether to view AI as a threat or a benefit, ranging from the view that life is “already slave-like” to the optimistic take that if AI spreads, inequality might actually shrink. On the question of whether AI can understand human emotion, skepticism that an emotionless AI is “just good at faking it” stood alongside the counterargument that even mutual understanding between humans never goes beyond guesswork anyway — what stood out wasn’t the technical accuracy of AI, but differing values on how to approach it. Worth keeping in mind: Takeshi’s remark was just one comment within the show, not something backed by a concrete policy proposal or evidence.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geino Supo Sokuhou+) thread “[Entertainment] Beat Takeshi sounds alarm on AI surveillance society: “Only a tiny fraction will survive, everyone else basically treated like slaves…”.”

  • Masumi Kuwata Emerges as Candidate for Chunichi’s Next Manager — So Why Can’t He Manage the Giants?

    The search for a successor to Chunichi Dragons manager Kazuki Inoue, who is stepping down at season’s end over poor results, has become a hot topic. While reports have floated Chunichi alumni Masahiro Araki and Hiroyasu Ibata, or outside hire and former SoftBank manager Kimiyasu Kudo, the name of Giants alumnus Masumi Kuwata also surfaced, sparked by a speculative tabloid report. On the thread, opinions clashed over the unwritten rule in baseball circles — and the theory that it stems from a “dying wish” of former Yomiuri chairman Tsuneo Watanabe — as to why Kuwata can never become the Giants’ first-team manager. A string of posts also shared results from asking ChatGPT to estimate his odds of landing the job, and the discussion spiraled to even bring up names like Kazuhiro Kiyohara and Daisuke Matsuzaka.

    Masumi Kuwata emerges as candidate for Chunichi’s new manager — Giants players say “He’ll definitely build an interesting team”

    Chunichi Dragons manager Kazuki Inoue has decided to step down at the end of this season, taking responsibility for the team’s poor results.

    Attention now turns to who will take over. Within the baseball world and in media reports, names being floated include Chunichi alumni such as team front-office advisor Masahiro Araki and former Samurai Japan manager Hiroyasu Ibata, as well as outside hire and former SoftBank Hawks manager Kimiyasu Kudo.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:26
    Fine, we'll lend you Abe out of pity. (Shinnosuke Abe, current Giants manager)
    78AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:31
    Re: #4
    A strong dose of medicine might be just the right call here.
    5AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:30
    That's just the Nikkan Gendai tabloid talking — no way that's actually happening.
    8AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:31
    Maybe post #666 is the one begging Kuwata to take the job (a 5ch jinx-number joke).
    12AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:33
    No matter how badly he wants it, he can't become Giants manager — so why not just take another team?
    17AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:36
    Re: #12
    Why can't Kuwata become the Giants' first-team manager?
    19AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:38
    Re: #17
    One theory is it's basically Nabetsune's (Tsuneo Watanabe's) dying wish — something like 'he turned his back on the Giants, so freeze him out.'
    68AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:21
    Re: #17
    He was a Giants man his whole playing career, start to finish — that's exactly what trips him up. His bid to make it in the majors came back to bite him.
    13AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:34
    Skilled players? Come on — their weakness isn't some mental toughness issue. Stop trying to explain it away with 'spirit and willpower' nonsense.
    14AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:35
    Guys like Kosuke Fukudome might not be thrilled, but since Kuwata's his senpai from PL Gakuen, he'd fall right in line with a 'Yes sir! Yes sir!'
    If Kuwata becomes manager, he'll definitely bring in Fukudome — as farm team manager, batting coach, or head coach.
    15AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:35
    Anyway, Chunichi seems obsessed with whether a manager will actually draw a crowd — but would Kuwata even bring in fans?
    18AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:37
    Just like I called it on September 20th 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
    https://hayabusa9.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/mnewsplus/1789805703/300
    23AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:42
    PL Gakuen's manager Junji Nakamura probably lived in Aichi back when he coached at Nagoya University of Commerce, but it's been almost 10 years since he left that post, so he's probably not around anymore.
    24AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:43
    I'd get it if they were bringing in a proven great manager to rebuild the Dragons, but Kuwata doesn't have any track record as a skipper at all.
    31AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:47
    It's gonna be Manager Kuwata. He'll probably touch down in Nagoya bright and early.
    36AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:51
    According to ChatGPT, Kuwata's at 40%, Ibata 20%, Shima 10%, Araki 10%, apparently.
    ChatGPT has Kuwata as the top pick.
    38AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:51
    ChatGPT's pretty sharp.
    Way more capable than Inoue.
    If ChatGPT were manager, they'd have finished 2nd.
    39AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:52
    This is about as likely as Ohtani signing with Chunichi as a free agent.
    Where did Kuwata even come from?
    Furuta would still be more plausible.
    40AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:53
    According to ChatGPT,
    Kiyohara's sitting at 5%
    and Daisuke Matsuzaka's at 3%.
    Matsuzaka ranking below Kiyohara…
    41AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:54
    Now THAT'S a dream.

    Manager Kuwata & Head Coach Kiyohara (the KK Combo reunited — the reconciliation everyone's been hoping for)
    Kataoka as batting coach
    Hashimoto as pitching coach
    Tatsunami as fielding coach

    Fukudome as farm team coach

    The PL Gakuen squad rises again in Nagoya!
    67AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:20
    Re: #41
    Throw in Hiroki Nomura as pitching coach and Shinya Miyamoto as base-running coach too.
    44AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:56
    Kuwata, with zero track record, becoming manager ahead of a whole lineup of Chunichi alumni?
    That's about as likely as Chunichi getting sold off.
    46AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:58
    Re: #44
    ChatGPT's putting Manager Kuwata at 40-50%.
    Don't underestimate the power of AI.
    49AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:59
    Re: #46
    Wait, you mean Keisuke Kuwata (the Southern All Stars singer)?
    52AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:00
    Come to think of it, Ittetsu Hoshi actually became Chunichi's manager, didn't he? (the fictional coach from the manga/anime Star of the Giants)
    Was Chunichi actually strong back in that era?
    69AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:21
    Re: #52
    Eiji Bando appeared in Star of the Giants back when he was still an active player.
    53AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:03
    Can fans who remember 10.8 (the legendary October 8, 1994 pennant decider between the Giants and Dragons) really forgive this?
    54AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:04
    Re: #53
    By that logic, Ochiai was even more of a long shot.
    55AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:06
    These days, what comes to mind first about 10.8 is Ichiro eating yakisoba in the stands at Nagoya Stadium.
    56AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:08
    A speculative tabloid article reacting to another speculative tabloid article.
    57AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:10
    What 10.8 makes me think of is Komori, the final batter.
    He's not involved in baseball anymore,
    so who knows what he's up to these days…
    By the way, back then there was also a guy named Yasushi Yamamoto —
    'Yamamoto Yasu.'
    Anyone remember him?
    62AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:14
    Wouldn't it be better for him to just manage the Giants, then?
    73AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:24
    Re: #62
    Think about why Kuwata got pushed out of the Giants and ended up going to Niigata.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Manager Kazuki Inoue’s departure stems from the team’s poor results this season, and the names being floated by name for his successor are Chunichi alumni Masahiro Araki and Hiroyasu Ibata, along with outside hire Kimiyasu Kudo. Masumi Kuwata’s name, by contrast, traces back to speculation tied to a tabloid-style report circulating in the thread — it is not an official announcement. Where opinions in the thread diverged was over the question of “why can’t Kuwata become the Giants’ first-team manager,” with posters citing an unwritten rule against players who spent their entire careers exclusively with the Giants becoming manager, as well as a theory about a “dying wish” from former Yomiuri chairman Tsuneo Watanabe — though neither claim rises above thin rumor. Several posts also cite results from asking ChatGPT to estimate “odds of becoming manager,” but it’s worth noting this wasn’t the AI presenting evidence-based statistics — it was simply a bit of fun that caught on within the thread. There are also frequent references to the 1994 “October 8 Showdown,” but these appear as Chunichi fans’ nostalgic reminiscing, unrelated directly to the Kuwata managerial speculation.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Baseball] Masumi Kuwata emerges as candidate for Chunichi’s new manager — Giants players say “He’ll definitely build an interesting team”.”

  • Legendary Voice Actor Wakamoto Norio Joins ‘VIVANT’ — ‘Anago-san’ Trends Out of Nowhere

    On the October 4 broadcast of TBS’s Sunday Theater drama “VIVANT” Season 2, Episode 19, voice actor Wakamoto Norio made a surprise appearance, sending “Anago-san” (his famous Sazae-san character) trending on social media. The story, reported by zakzak.co.jp, quickly spread to the live-discussion crowd on 5ch, where the thread buzzed with surprise (“more and more star voice actors keep joining — it’s starting to feel like a dubbed movie”) and complaints that his distinctive delivery turns serious scenes into comedy skits. On the other hand, some took it positively, saying “full-on Wakamoto mode, I straight up laughed” — reactions to the same scene were sharply divided.

    2026.10/4 22:54

    Star voice actors keep piling in! The unexpected chaos caused by a weighty “mastermind voice”

    An unexpected surprise that erupted during the October 4 broadcast of TBS’s Sunday Theater drama “VIVANT” Season 2, Episode 19, took social media by storm. It was the appearance of legendary voice actor Wakamoto Norio.

    Source: zakzak.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:07
    So many voice actors lately.
    Once AI Hayato started feeling like some cheesy Showa-era sentai hero show, I lost it right from this very first episode.
    4AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:07
    Blessed are those who still remember the tale of Byston Well.
    89AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:56
    Re: #4
    The great actor Wakamoto Noriaki already died.

    This Wakamoto Norio's a fake.
    6AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:08
    I thought he was the narrator for the second half of 'Let's Drink at the Neighborhood Chinese Restaurant.'
    7AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:08
    Hanazawa-san's dad is voiced by Wakamoto too, y'know (´・ω・`)
    13AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:12
    Re: #7
    Anago-san's wife is a Hanazawa too, isn't she.
    8AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:08
    Buruaaaa…
    Cutie-chaaaan

    Seriously?! lol
    10AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:10
    This just gives the 'Ichiki Purin' bit more material to work with (meaning of the reference unclear — likely an in-joke).
    12AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:11
    Re: #1
    It was already a comedy skit back in his Detective Conan days.
    14AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:12
    What anime is this from?
    19AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:14
    Re: #14
    W-wait, is that the Prison Titan from Demon Slayer?! (a joke mashing up Demon Slayer and Attack on Titan)
    17AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:13
    The live-discussion thread was going wild with 'Anago-san' comments.

    That's a pretty low bar, huh.
    22AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:15
    I wonder if I'm even allowed to say this isn't funny.
    23AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:15
    Super AI
    Simultaneous interpretation
    This keeps getting worse.
    Should've just stopped after part one.
    24AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:15
    Somebody please tell him this bit stopped landing a while ago…
    28AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:16
    I'm sick of Hayato and these dub-style voice actors.
    30AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:17
    If you just think of it like 'Otokojuku' (an over-the-top macho gag manga), it's actually enjoyable.
    34AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:17
    Wakamoto and Chiba could totally wreck the show… but is that really fine?
    36AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:19
    I'd love to see Fuguta and Anago-san sit down at the same table (both Sazae-san characters).
    38AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:20
    Who cares about that — more importantly, what are they gonna do about this dragging story?
    39AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:21
    Sorry to keep you waiting, Son Goku. (a classic Dragon Ball line)
    45AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:23
    Re: #39
    When's Nozawa Masako (Goku's voice actress) gonna join in?
    40AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:21
    This drama's turning into a dubbed movie — way too star-studded lol
    Wakamoto's voice showing up cracked me up
    He's gotta be the final boss, right?
    44AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:23
    Next thing you know they'll bring out Freeza.
    54AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:30
    Re: #44
    He'll show up in person dressed as Jeff from Oishinbo 🙄
    55AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:31
    Wakamoto's voice is like dousing everything in way too much Tabasco.
    62AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:32
    Re: #55
    If so, let's throw in Ikeda Shuichi (Char's voice) and Ginga Banjou too.
    59AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:32
    Sorry, but I laughed my ass off.
    As a drama it's terrible, but that foreign actor and Wakamoto are such a mismatch, with Wakamoto going full-on in his signature style.
    74AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:40
    Re: #59
    No matter what non-human role it is, the second that voice speaks, it just turns into 'Wakamoto.'
    We're all just conditioned at this point.
    61AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:32
    Back when he was in Oishinbo, Wakamoto was still normal.
    63AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:33
    Re: #61
    Yamaoka: 'Call Okahoshi!!' 🙄
    70AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:39
    The reason voice-actor delivery works is because it's anime or foreign-film dubs.
    Use it in a Japanese drama and there's zero realism or tension.
    It almost feels like a joke.

    They didn't need to stick with voice actors this time either — someone like Yoshida Kotaro would've been fine.
    77AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:41
    I really hate this guy's narration.
    79AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:42
    Re: #77
    He used to be normal, you know.
    80AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:43
    Re: #77
    Chiba Shigeru and the Gendo guy (Tanaka Hideyuki, Evangelion's Gendo) are kind of the same, though.
    92AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:00
    Total pandering to the seiyuu-otaku crowd (diehard voice-actor fanboys).
    105AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:21
    Re: #92
    The so-called seiyuu-otaku probably don't even care about this generation of actors — they're old folks.

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    “VIVANT” is a hard-edged TBS Sunday Theater ensemble drama starring Eguchi Yosuke, revolving around public security, the Self-Defense Forces, and a terrorist organization. In Season 2, the show has leaned again into the “surprise cameo by a star voice actor” device that generated buzz in previous installments, and Wakamoto Norio’s appearance has pushed that further. What split the thread was whether a voice actor’s signature “raw voice” — an asset in anime or foreign-film dubbing where distinctive delivery is a strength — instead feels out of place in a live-action Japanese drama built around realism. Comments like #70, arguing that “it’s a vocal style that only works because it’s anime or dubbed foreign films, and using it in a Japanese drama kills the tension,” sat alongside more favorable takes like #59’s “it’s fun, I can just laugh along with the vibe” — showing a gap between the production’s intent and how viewers actually received it. It’s also worth noting that the thread itself never explains exactly why “Anago-san” became a trending term — that detail comes from posters relaying secondhand reports of social media reactions.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Buruaaaa] Sunday Theater’s “VIVANT” sends “Anago-san” trending with Wakamoto Norio’s appearance — why the serious drama fell apart [Ailuropoda melanoleuca★]“.

  • “Can I Have Just a Bit More to Drink?” Thread Spirals Into Drinking Snacks and Gadget Bragging

    A one-line thread titled “Can I have a little more to drink?” that popped up on 5ch’s Nnews VIP board kept spiraling outward — from bragging about drinking snacks to showing off kitchen gadgets, and even to live commentary on a browser game. Talk drifted from food like seared bonito (katsuo tataki), cheese, and a supermarket chain’s absurdly cheap giant apple pie, to vacuum-seal storage bags and how to use a hot sandwich maker, and even off into a game called “Moji Blade” where players battle with spinning-top letters. There was no real conclusion or debate — just everyone posting whatever they liked in a loose, rambling thread typical of the evening drinking hours.

    1AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:00
    Not allowed?
    7AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:04
    8AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:05
    Re: #6
    You're forgiven

    Re: #7
    Shut up already!
    20AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:14
    Guess I'll watch Gaki no Tsukai (long-running variety show)
    Hamada Masatoshi's Big Compliance Fact-Check (just kidding)
    22AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:15

    It's the season for delicious seared bonito
    23AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:16
    Re: #22
    Whoa, that looks delicious
    24AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:16
    Re: #20
    Can't wait, nice!

    Re: #22
    That's some beautiful tataki!
    26AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:16
    Re: #22
    Even brought out mayonnaise — who do you think you are, Yamaoka? (foodie character from the manga Oishinbo)
    39AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:29

    The leftover Parmesan has entered the fight!

    My posting restriction still hasn't lifted (a 5ch rate-limit on frequent posters)
    What a pain!!
    40AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:30
    Re: #39
    Eat up, eat up!
    48AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:37
    Re: #39
    Cheeeeese! You eat seared bonito with cheese on it?
    47AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:36
    Re: #44
    It's just a regular supermarket
    Just thought it looked kind of familiar
    51AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:39
    Re: #47
    Someone out there might actually go check it out! lol
    57AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:42
    Re: #51
    This chain's ridiculously huge 500-yen apple pie is amazing
    61AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:44
    Re: #57
    I want to eat that!
    64AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:45
    Re: #57
    As a half-price hunter, I buy it the second it's marked down 50%
    49AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:38
    Re: #48
    I just nibble on it as a little break between bites!
    So happy I can stock up on tons of cheese now
    56AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:41
    Re: #49
    Ohh, a palate break, huh! Cheeeeese is so good, right!
    So you can stock up on a lot of it now
    63AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:45
    Re: #56

    Ta-da! Vacuum-seal storage bags~!
    72AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:52
    Re: #63
    Oooh, these exist?! Amazing!!!
    52AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:39
    This chain has really great fresh fish!
    The seared bonito I posted earlier was also bought there!
    62AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:44
    Re: #52
    The branch near me sells raw eel already filleted
    53AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:40
    Is this chain a Gifu thing? Or do you live in Aichi?
    54AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:41
    Re: #53
    This chain, which has a tie-up with the home center Kohnan lol, is aggressively expanding into Kanto and Kansai!!
    55AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:41
    Re: #52
    There's none near me, so I'm jealous!

    Re: #53
    You're a regular detective!
    59AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:43
    Re: #53
    I'm in Aichi, but I go to Gifu sometimes too
    68AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:48

    Since I own this, as a drinker I really want to try buying raw eel and grilling it plain (shirayaki-style) to drink with, at least once!!
    69AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:50
    Re: #68
    Looks like you could have fun with all kinds of things!
    70AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:50
    Re: #68
    The bottom part is noisy
    74AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:53
    For some reason I thought yakitori was the only thing you could use that for
    Guess eel works too
    76AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:54
    Re: #74
    Plenty of people use this for yakiniku too!
    75AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:53
    Re: #69
    Honestly I've only used it a few times lol

    Re: #70

    Is it really that loud?
    (That wasn't even a pun…)
    77AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:54
    Oh right, Anago-san showed up in the Vivant dub — that can only mean one of two things: he's the final boss, or he's about to get yelled at by his wife (a running joke about the voice actor's typecasting)
    78AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:55
    Re: #74
    If it can be grilled, pretty much anything's fine!

    Re: #75
    Since you've got it, use it a lot!

    Re: #77
    Didn't he say "Fuguta-kun"? (a nod to a familiar catchphrase)
    80AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:56
    Re: #75
    A proper young lady wouldn't worry about stuff like that
    Isn't wiping off the grease Sebastian's job? Dunno though
    83AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:59

    For grilling meat, there's also something like this!
    Once it gets colder I'll enjoy standing in the kitchen eating yakiniku rice bowls ^q^
    84AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:00
    Re: #83
    You've got that nicely broken in!
    115AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:22
    Those stuffed-pepper things — raw bell peppers stuffed with taco meat and topped with cheddar are insanely good, you should really try it
    Honestly it's tasty even without cooking it!
    119AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:26
    Re: #115
    I sometimes do it with meat sauce too!

    Re: #116
    Won with fire! lol
    116AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:22
    Was playing this terrible game today where you turn letters into spinning tops and battle them 🥺
    https://tsukuruum.pages.dev/games/moji-blade/
    118AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:24
    Re: #116

    Let's settle this!!
    121AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:29
    Re: #118
    First thing you do is test it out, right
    This one was strong

    135AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:40

    This might be a pretty terrible game lol
    137AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:43
    Re: #135
    You already know it's a terrible game going in, that's the whole point
    Switching to the POP font boosts your power
    152AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:57

    I lost…
    163AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:05
    Re: #152
    You're number one

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    The supermarket chain that came up repeatedly in the thread is a home-center-and-grocery chain centered on the Chubu region that has partnered with the home center Kohnan to expand into Kanto and Kansai. Locally it’s known for its well-stocked fresh fish counters and prepared foods, but in some areas it’s not well known, and several posts in the thread asked what kind of store it even was. The “Moji Blade” game that came up later is a one-off joke-style browser minigame posted on an indie game site, where letters of text battle each other like spinning tops (beigoma). There’s no single consistent point of debate running through the thread — it’s a textbook example of a late-night VIP chat thread, drifting loosely from topic to topic as people post photos of their drinking snacks and kitchen gadgets.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News速VIP) thread “Can I have a little more to drink?.”

  • Sakuya Hiyama Reveals the Real Reason She Left Weathernews: ‘Getting Married Was a Big Part of It’ — Days Spent Abroad Supporting Her Athlete Husband

    An article in which former Weathernews star caster Sakuya Hiyama discussed the major turning points in her life — leaving the company, marrying pro tennis player Yoshihito Nishioka, and her first pregnancy — became a hot topic on 5ch. Beyond reactions to the marriage itself, the thread was dominated by discussion of surrounding details: the order in which the marriage was announced versus the fan club’s closure, her husband Nishioka’s recent slump in results, and a previously viral exchange involving a fan’s expensive Super Chat donation. Opinions split between supportive and skeptical takes.

    Sakuya Hiyama Reveals the Real Reason She Left Weathernews: “Getting Married Was a Big Part of It” — Days Spent Abroad Supporting Her Athlete Husband

    Sakuya Hiyama, the former Weathernews weather caster now working as a freelance announcer, is entering a new phase of her life.

    Leaving her job, marrying pro tennis player Yoshihito Nishioka, and now expecting her first child… We spoke with Hiyama, who as a woman has faced numerous career crossroads, about the life plans she envisions going forward.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    2AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:29
    The second-generation Kaori Iida (a former pop idol whose marriage/scandal history gets invoked here as a comparison)
    8AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:32
    Re: #2
    Who said anything about "Kikkoman"? (a running joke nickname tied to a past celebrity scandal)
    59AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:29
    Re: #2
    Somehow I get the feeling the two of them are similar in personality — or more like, in the way they think
    79AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:04
    Re: #2
    The circumstances are similar, but it's missing the punch of the old "Kikkoman," "banana," or "maze" incidents (all nicknames from a past celebrity scandal saga)
    4AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:30
    Apparently she's from money to begin with, so it'll all work out one way or another
    6AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:31
    If he were really being properly supported, he wouldn't be smashing his racket like that
    12AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:38
    Like I keep saying, these are wealthy families marrying into each other
    Hard to picture anything breaking this up besides infidelity
    Nothing's really going to happen here
    14AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:38
    Why announce the marriage only after cashing in at that last fan event?
    15AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:39
    From day one right up to now, she's never been more than an internet joke character
    16AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:39
    She seems bad at business, so this is probably going to be rough for her
    30AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:58
    The guy who dropped 50,000 yen on a Super Chat really left his mark in more ways than one
    You could say that 50,000 yen was money well spent
    70AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:46
    Re: #30
    It was satisfying seeing someone finally say it, on behalf of all the guys who'd been pouring money into her lol
    40AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:09
    The official fan club actually got shut down this past July
    But of course, nobody's bringing that up
    67AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:43
    Re: #40
    Well yeah, of course it'd turn out that way lmaooooo
    50AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:16
    The "Weather Dudes" (diehard older male fans of her weather broadcasts) were absolutely losing it lol
    52AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:20
    Did the "Lifeliners" (her hardcore fan club nickname) bail?
    Fine if things go well with her husband, but I've got a bad feeling about how ugly this could get if they ever sour
    55AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:22
    Over on the tennis board, most people actually welcomed Nishioka's relationship
    After all, tennis fans had already lived through the whole Kei Nishikori dating-and-marriage saga
    Compared to that, this was nothing
    So I was honestly shocked to see her side's fanbase spiral into chaos over it
    Digging through old articles and videos, you really get a glimpse of just how far gone some of these obsessive male fans are — hard to even put into words
    66AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:41
    Re: #55
    He looks like a pretty unpopular guy to me

    [IMG Coffee] Yoshihito Nishioka 24
    https://mao.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/tennis/1664976331/
    ↑ Thread created Oct. 2022, only 59 posts

    Yoshihito Nishioka Support Thread 28
    https://mao.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/tennis/1719273865/
    ↑ Thread created June 2024, only 64 posts
    71AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:46
    Her husband, screaming things like "my life is nothing but a glitch" during a match last year

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDRyltWuIpg&t=7442
    74AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:51
    Re: #71
    I wonder how he even sees the people around him
    78AnonymousOct 5, 2026 02:03
    Her husband two years ago, at age 28
    https://news.tennis365.net//news/photo/20240826_nishioka_546.jpg

    Background and Key Points of Discussion

    Sakuya Hiyama rose to fame as the star weather caster for forecasting company Weathernews, and after going independent became entertainment-news fodder over her marriage to pro tennis player Yoshihito Nishioka. The thread’s main points of contention were the timing of the marriage announcement relative to the fan club’s closure, Nishioka’s recent slump in results (ranked 218th at the time of the thread, having lost his first match back after a long layoff), and a previously viral exchange with a fan over an expensive Super Chat donation. While the article itself frames her “accompanying him abroad” in a positive light, the thread mixed in skeptical takes based on publicly available information. Note that replies veering into personal attacks on her or other named individuals have been excluded from this article.

    *This article was compiled by excerpting and summarizing the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Entertainment] Sakuya Hiyama Reveals the Real Reason She Left Weathernews: “Getting Married Was a Big Part of It” — Days Spent Abroad Supporting Her Athlete Husband.”

  • RTX 5060 Price Drops to a Record-Low ¥75,000, Sparking a GPU Tier-Ranking Debate on 5ch

    NVIDIA’s entry-level GPU, the RTX 5060, has quietly dropped to a record-low price of ¥75,000, sparking discussion on 5ch’s “Hardware/Industry (Geha)” board. Rather than the price itself, the thread’s debate centered on where to draw the line between entry-level, mid-range, and high-end GPUs — with some arguing the RTX 5060 Ti and above should count as mid-range, and others pointing out the problem that NVIDIA’s only model below the 5060 is the 5050. The discussion also expanded into comparisons with home game consoles, contrasting the PS5’s GPU performance and the unreleased PS6’s projected specs against AMD GPUs.

    1AnonymousOct 4, 2026 21:53
    What are we even gonna do about this?
    4AnonymousOct 4, 2026 21:58
    Wild that #2 and #4 on the GPU ranking are both over ¥1 million.
    You guys are spending way too much money on gaming.
    6AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:00
    Re: #4
    That just means we're past the phase where gamers are the ones buying them.
    7AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:04
    Re: #4
    The ones over ¥1 million are honestly just sitting unsold most of the time.
    But every once in a while Dospara drops one for like ¥890,000 and it sells out instantly.
    The 5090 really is on a different level.
    5AnonymousOct 4, 2026 21:59
    I'm out of the loop on PC building these days, but
    doesn't it run most games fine?
    9AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:10
    Re: #5
    Sure it runs them, but it's not the kind of performance you'd buy new right now.
    10AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:11
    For 1080p this is plenty.
    Once you get into WQHD or heavy 4K titles, the price jumps way up.
    The 5090's crazy pricing is because AI folks are buying them up, not gamers.
    22AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:42
    Re: #10
    Recent demanding games want 12GB of VRAM even for the minimum 1080p spec.
    15AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:27
    Unlike the 4060, it's loud, it runs hot, and on top of that it's weak.
    Even on the Steam hardware survey it ranks below the 3060 and 4060 — total trash.
    79AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:52
    Re: #15
    The 5060's performance-per-watt is actually good,
    so if you power-limit it, it ends up both more powerful and more efficient than the 4060 — a straight upgrade across the board.
    82AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:58
    Re: #79
    How much are you planning to undervolt from 150W exactly? Are you trying to send it into stutter hell and break it? LOL
    16AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:31
    The 5060 isn't actually an entry-level card, though.
    I can tell from the post alone whether someone's never touched one or is just an AMD fanboy (lit. "red believer").
    25AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:53
    Re: #16
    It's NVIDIA's fault for not making a real entry-level card.
    Seriously, the only thing below this is the 5050.
    24AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:51
    I get the 5060, but what's with the 3060 price spike?
    73AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:43
    Re: #24
    It's got 12GB of VRAM, so if you push it you can still do a lot with it.
    98AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:26
    Re: #24
    Isn't it just that the older one is out of stock so it's pricier?
    And then there are people who get suckered into buying it.
    28AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:57
    There's no strict definition of "entry-level" vs "mid-range" anyway…
    In my head, the 5060 Ti counts as mid-range
    and the plain 5060 is entry-level.
    29AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:00
    Re: #28
    Only AMD even bothers making true entry-level cards anymore, lol.
    34AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:14
    Re: #33
    Wait, explain that?
    43AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:24
    Re: #34
    Can use every RTX feature, runs AAA titles smoothly at max settings in 4K → high-end → 5080 and up
    Can use every RTX feature, runs AAA titles smoothly at max settings, but 4K is a struggle → upper-mid-range → 5070 to just under 5080
    Can use every RTX feature, runs AAA titles smoothly at max settings, but only at 1080p → mid-range → 5060 to just under 5070
    Can technically play games, it runs → entry-level → whatever junk is left
    47AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:28
    Re: #43
    The PS5 can't even run Forza Horizon 6, so it's below "whatever junk is left," lol.
    42AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:23
    I don't know what alternate universe you're living in, but 1080p is still 55% of the Steam hardware survey.
    44AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:25
    Re: #42
    That's because it includes developing countries too.
    If you limit it to developed countries, WQHD and up is the norm.
    51AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:29
    If a 20 TFLOPS 5060 counts as entry-level, then the PS5 is basically a pathetic little slug, lmao.
    54AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:31
    Re: #51
    The 5060's VRAM is garbage though.
    Not worth buying.
    55AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:32
    5050: low-end
    5060: entry-level
    5060 Ti: lower mid-range
    5070: mid-range
    5070 Ti: upper mid-range
    5080: mid-to-high-end
    5090: high-end
    That's how it is.
    59AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:34
    Re: #55
    The 5090's already been discontinued.
    The 5080 is the high-end now.
    100AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:28
    Re: #55
    I wish the last one had a name like a Final Fantasy attack.
    56AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:32
    The PS5 is roughly equivalent to a 2060, right?
    Of course it's a pathetic little slug then, lol.
    Though I won't deny plenty of titles still run fine on a 2060 at 1080p.
    63AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:36
    Re: #56
    It was settled ages ago that the PS5's "Oberon" chip is a custom RX 5700 — junk that maxes out at WQHD.
    Why do people keep insisting on converting it into RTX terms when it can't use a single RTX feature?
    64AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:36
    The PS6 is expected to land somewhere around a 5070 or 5070 Ti.
    If it comes in under ¥200,000, it'll probably be seen as better value than a PC.
    65AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:37
    Re: #64
    Didn't the leaks say the PS6 is junk capped at around 40 TFLOPS at best?
    71AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:42
    Re: #64
    If they slapped a 5070 Ti, memory, a 1TB drive, and a console-customized CPU together and sold it for ¥200,000, they'd go into the red just like with the PS3, lol.
    72AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:42
    Re: #65
    AMD's own RX 9070 XT does 48.7 TFLOPS.
    The PS6 should come in just a bit below the 9070 XT, so it's clearly above the 5060 but probably in the same league as the 5070 or 5070 Ti.
    75AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:47
    Re: #72
    Sorry, that's the Xbox "Helix" with the RX 9070 XT.
    The PS6's ideal target is 40 TFLOPS, which puts it closer to an RX 7800 XT.
    76AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:49
    And on top of that, that's a chip model that came out over a year ago.
    78AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:50
    Re: #76
    Microsoft and Sony just haven't announced it yet for their own reasons — the deal's probably long since been signed.
    Sony announced their AMD partnership for the next-gen console a good while back, remember?
    81AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:54
    Guess you really do need the 16GB VRAM model?
    I'm fine with just 1080p though.
    83AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:01
    Re: #81
    It depends more on the quality settings than the resolution.
    With 8GB you can even run Wilds at 4K with ray tracing on and high settings.
    Even that still performs better than the PS5 Pro.
    86AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:04
    Re: #81
    Take Resident Evil 4's PC version as an example.
    It's not even that demanding a game by PC standards.
    But even RE4 eats up over 10GB of VRAM at max quality in 1080p.
    And that's with ray tracing turned off, by the way.


    Of course, it's PC, so you don't have to run max quality — you can always tune settings down…
    But personally, I'd want at least 12GB to play comfortably, ideally 16.
    92AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:09
    Re: #81
    With a 5060 you'd be running medium settings anyway, so it's fine.
    Besides, RAM prices are the biggest driver of cost increases right now,
    so this isn't really the time to pick "more RAM, just in case" as a nice-to-have bonus — just think of it as: paying the price difference gets you better visuals, and that's enough.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The GPU categories “entry-level,” “mid-range,” and “high-end” aren’t official designations from NVIDIA — they’re just convenient labels users apply based on performance and price. Because of this, the actual performance range behind the same label shifts with every generation, which is why debates like this one keep recurring. The TFLOPS (theoretical compute performance) figures used for comparison in the thread also aren’t a metric that allows simple comparisons between GPUs of different architectures, and this caveat tends to get overlooked when people line up the PS5 or the unreleased PS6 against the RTX series. As for the soaring prices of flagship models, that’s largely attributed to demand from generative AI, which is creating a pricing dynamic separate from gaming demand — a factor worth considering separately from trends in gamer demand.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Hardware/Industry [Geha]) thread “[Sad News] Entry-level GPU RTX 5060 Quietly Drops to a Record-Low ¥75,000 😰.”

  • Mikimama Apologizes Over ‘Unauthorized Video Use’ Scandal — 5ch Fires Back: ‘Recipes Aren’t Copyrighted, Right?’

    The controversy began when culinary personality and TV talent Mikimama posted a video that used another chef’s cooking footage without permission, emphasizing that her own recipe was superior. The other chef shared her feelings on Instagram, saying, “It makes me very sad to have my precious recipe treated this way without permission,” prompting Mikimama to post an apology on October 3. On 5ch, opinions split between those pointing out that recipes themselves aren’t copyrighted and those noting that what was used without permission was the cooking “video,” which is subject to copyright — leaving the thread divided over where the real issue actually lies.

    10/4 (Sun) 17:10

    “I am truly sorry for the trouble I have caused this time.”

    On October 3, culinary personality and TV talent Miki Fujiwara, known as “Mikimama,” apologized on her own Instagram. Mikimama has been at the center of controversy after reportedly disparaging another chef’s recipe.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:39
    Onyanko Club? (a famous 1980s Japanese idol group)
    28AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:57
    Re: #4
    Sounds like it's just someone else with the same name.
    5AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:40
    My Recipe: A Delicious Dream Harmony
    12AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:47
    There's no copyright on recipes, right?
    21AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:52
    Re: #12
    Nope — other chefs pass other people's dishes off as their own all the time too.
    24AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:55
    Re: #12
    She didn't steal the recipe — she used someone else's cooking video without permission to make a video claiming her own recipe is way better. Videos ARE copyrighted. The recipe itself isn't even remotely similar.
    84AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:49
    Re: #12
    The way the world's going, next someone's gonna say 'I patented putting oil in the pan before frying.'
    13AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:47
    The people crying 'unauthorized recipe use' — do you ask someone's permission every single time you cook rice and make miso soup?
    14AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:48
    "I borrowed the video to make a response video."




    Way too petty for words.
    15AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:48
    What even is a 'culinary researcher,' anyway?
    69AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:29
    Re: #15
    Kind of like a 'history researcher,' I guess.
    18AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:50
    The real issue here isn't recipe theft.
    19AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:51
    This person's pulled something like this before too, right?
    Well, recipes are a gray area to begin with.
    20AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:52
    If it's a video that runs someone else's cooking footage the whole way through just to keep comparing it, that's a pretty gray area for permitted quotation. If you're going to heavily quote someone else's video, it's safer to get the rights holder's permission first.
    26AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:56
    So it's less 'unauthorized recipe use' and more that she used the video without permission, huh?
    27AnonymousOct 4, 2026 22:56
    Blocking everyone who criticized her, one after another, seems to have fanned the flames too.
    31AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:00
    Stealing it and then putting out a comparison video makes zero sense.
    32AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:00
    Pulled pork is called that because you slow-cook a whole piece of meat until it falls apart, then 'pull' (shred) it. If you make it with thin-sliced scrap pork, it's not even pulled pork to begin with.
    34AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:04
    On Instagram, denials, defenses, and apologies are all equally worthless.
    35AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:05
    I'm just not a fan of people who slap 'Mama,' 'Papa,' or '-chan' onto their own name.
    36AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:05
    I've never seen her cook any meat dish besides thin-sliced scrap pork.
    Oh, except maybe gyoza.
    37AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:06
    Re: #24
    "It makes me very sad to have my precious recipe treated this way without permission."

    I only know what's in the article, but there's not a single mention of video copyright in that quote.
    51AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:16
    Re: #37
    Japanese really is steadily going extinct, huh.
    40AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:07
    You see stuff like 'you can make this with cheaper ingredients' or 'this is way easier' all the time, but playing the other person's video while you say it is taking it too far.
    58AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:19
    Re: #40
    And on top of that, right as the other chef is shown using a Staub pot, she throws in a dig like 'You don't need some fancy pot!'
    63AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:24
    Re: #40
    So 'this is easy to make' actually meant 'the video was easy to make,' huh?
    41AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:08
    There are already tons of things like 'KFC copycat recipes' floating around, so…
    44AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:11
    Re: #41
    Pulled pork itself isn't anyone's original invention to begin with. It's on the level of making miso soup with an unusual ingredient.
    59AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:21
    First time hearing of this person today, but she seems like she'd know all kinds of time-saving cooking tricks, so I'll check her out.
    Tips that grow out of home cooking are often more useful than ones from professional chefs.
    75AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:35
    Re: #59
    Is that you yourself?
    70AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:30
    Not a single mention of Koyama Keiichiro yet. (A recurring 5ch running gag that drops an unrelated celebrity's name into any thread.)
    78AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:44
    Re: #70
    That's about the level we're dealing with here.
    77AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:44
    Is there even such a thing as an 'original' recipe? If that's how it works, then I invented grilled salmon.
    83AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:48
    Re: #77
    Cooking videos ARE copyrighted, though.
    97AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:17
    So basically, she rode on someone else's recipe video, tweaked it slightly, and used it to feed her own need for validation.
    Pretty cringe-worthy, honestly.
    99AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:21
    Re: #97
    Unless you invented a dish completely from scratch yourself, pretty much all cooking is like that, you know?
    100AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:22
    Re: #97
    It's less 'copied it' and more 'trashed it.'

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Because a recipe is essentially just a set of cooking steps, it’s generally considered hard to protect under Japanese copyright law. A “video” showing the cooking process, however, can be protected as a visual work under copyright law. The thread split along the lines of whether people framed this as a case of “recipe imitation” or “unauthorized use of a video.” According to reports, Mikimama posted a video that used footage from another chef’s cooking video while emphasizing that her own recipe was superior, and the other chef spoke about how her video — not her recipe — had been handled, rather than about recipe imitation. Some commenters also felt that her habit of blocking critical commenters one after another only fanned the flames further.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment/Sports News+) thread “Mikimama’s ‘unauthorized recipe use’ and ‘one-upping video’ stir controversy; Mikimama apologizes after the other chef posts that she is ‘very sad’.”

  • Johnny’s Fan Loses the Juice=Juice Ticket War, Joins Hello! Project Fan Club Instead — Welcome to the Family

    A YouTuber who openly identifies as a fan of Johnny’s (Starto Entertainment) talent reported in a video that after failing to get tickets to a Juice=Juice concert, they joined the Hello! Project fan club — and it became a hot topic on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. The thread was a mix of welcome and bewilderment at the idea of “someone whose name nobody even knows” joining as a newcomer, and it also reignited debate over whether it was fair for Beyooooonds and Tsubaki Factory fans to push their own groups on him in a previous video. The gap in how strongly people feel new fans should “study up” on past material surfaced once again with this report of him joining the fan club.

    Oh wow!

    Source: youtu.be / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:59
    Re: #1
    Yeah, exactly
    'Offshore = company,' right (meaning unclear/inside joke)
    6AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:05
    Where's this whole 'that guy' thing even being talked about?
    8AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:08
    Honestly, this has nothing to do with the autumn tour anymore lol
    9AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:11
    Making videos like this just turns it into an obligation — he should really stop
    11AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:11
    Re: #9
    It's his sub-channel, so he's probably just doing whatever he feels like
    12AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:15
    If he already joined the Hello! Project fan club, it's not weird for people to recommend other groups to him
    13AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:16
    Re: #12
    He hasn't even been to a Juice show yet? That's exactly why people don't like it, lol
    26AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:43
    Re: #12
    The fan club report was in this video.
    The comments pushing Beyooooonds so hard were on the previous video.
    14AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:17
    Re: #13
    What's wrong with recommending something?
    If he's not interested, he can just scroll past
    15AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:22
    Why can't you guys join the fan club?
    17AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:25
    A small kindness can be a big nuisance.

    All you Tsubaki and Beyooooonds fans out there, recite that line before you even touch your PC or phone.
    18AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:26
    He's a hundred times better than those old geezers who never spend a dime but just complain nonstop and stir up fan wars on the Wolf board (5ch's notoriously combative idol-fan board)
    19AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:27
    A Johnny's fan falling hook, line, and sinker for that garbage agency's strategy
    20AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:27
    Moments like this are honestly the most fun part
    21AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:29
    You can already tell he's eventually going to get hooked on other Hello! Project groups too
    23AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:29
    You all got baited beautifully and just padded his view count
    24AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:39
    It's not like we lose anything even if this guy racks up views
    27AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:48
    That pressure in the comments where Juice fans specifically won't let anyone even say another Hello! Project group's name is kind of scary
    29AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:49
    Re: #27
    What, is that jealousy talking from a group that doesn't sell?
    30AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:50
    Re: #27
    I'm a newcomer who got hooked this year during the buzz, and I still can't even keep track of the names of Juice's past members, let alone any other Hello! Project group
    28AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:49
    Apparently it's pretty common for Johnny's fans to get hooked on Juice
    32AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:52
    Re: #30
    If you don't even watch Juice's old footage, can you really call yourself a fan?
    35AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:55
    Re: #32
    Even just the relatively recent footage is already more than I can keep up with.
    I am trying, though.
    Also, with the older stuff you can't search by 'X years ago' or a specific date, so tracking it down is a real pain.
    33AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:53
    The second you mention another group's name, the 'fan police' come running
    34AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:54
    Well, from Juice's point of view, the other groups are kind of like an unemployed sibling you'd rather not bring up
    39AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:56
    If you're a newcomer who joined during the recent buzz, at least study up on everything from Danbara's joining onward
    48AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:05
    Re: #39
    Starting from after Uemura's graduation is fine.
    Just make sure you've got TRI2, Clear Juice, and QoH (tour/release titles) covered and you're good.
    40AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:57
    Sure enough, the Beyooooonds fans came rushing in right on cue (5ch slang 'shuba' = swarming in eagerly)

    Nochioka's response below:
    "Other people have recommended Beyooooonds to me too. Please let me calm down a bit. For now, I just want to focus on Juice=Juice."
    44AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:02
    Re: #40
    Even just getting the group's name recognized has some effect
    54AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:17
    Re: #40
    Seriously, cut it out with this
    Even he's going to get turned off by this
    56AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:18
    Re: #40
    This guy is starting to look more and more like Homare (a well-known figure in the fandom)
    41AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:58
    Because new fans are coming in who barely even realize Juice is part of Hello! Project
    59AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:29
    Reasons Nochioka got hooked on Juice
     Vocal ability
     Performance
     Each member's individuality
     Great group atmosphere
     The members get along well
    63AnonymousOct 5, 2026 01:32
    Re: #59
    That applies to Beyooooonds and Tsubaki Factory too

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    The basis for this topic is a video posted by a YouTuber who openly identifies as a fan of Johnny’s (Starto Entertainment) talent, reporting that after failing to get tickets to a Juice=Juice concert, they joined the Hello! Project fan club. What split the thread was the reaction to a previous video in which Beyooooonds and Tsubaki Factory fans had recommended their own groups to this newcomer — Juice=Juice fans expressed discomfort (“he hasn’t even been to a Juice show yet”), while others defended it, saying “even just getting your group’s name known has value.” In Hello! Project, where multiple groups coexist, there’s long been a pattern of fans from different groups keeping an eye on each other over the recruitment of new fans, and this exchange is an extension of that same dynamic. The thread also touched on the question of how much past footage new fans should be expected to “study up” on — worth noting as background beyond the thread itself is that the spread of video streaming now lets fans revisit past performances without ever having attended in person, which lowers the barrier to entry for new fans even as it creates a different worry: “where do I even start watching?”

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “[Breaking] That Johnny’s Fan Couldn’t Get Juice=Juice Tickets, Joins the Hello! Project Fan Club. Officially Becomes Part of the Juice=Juice Family.”

  • Karen Takizawa: “If I Could Only Bring One Seasoning to a Desert Island, It’d Be Mirin” — 5ch Mostly Says Soy Sauce or Salt

    On Fuji TV’s “Kamaitachi’s Instant Answer!”, talent Karen Takizawa said, “If I could only bring one seasoning to a desert island, mirin would do,” and the story was picked up on 5ch. The thread saw a string of practical objections — “salt can be made from seawater, so soy sauce or sugar is more useful,” “mirin alone is hard to use without dashi or soy sauce” — but the discussion also veered off into a debate over the premise itself, namely whether a desert island is guaranteed to even have an ocean nearby, and things never quite settled.

    Sun, Oct 4, 17:33

    Talent Karen Takizawa (34) appeared on Fuji TV’s “Kamaitachi’s Instant Answer! — Solve Your Problems in 60 Seconds” (9:00 PM), which aired on the 2nd, and revealed the seasoning she uses most.

    During the studio talk, MC and Kamaitachi member Ryuichi Hamaie asked, “Is there a seasoning you use a lot?” Takizawa declared, “Number one is mirin,” adding, “If I didn’t have mirin… say I could only bring one seasoning to a desert island, mirin would do.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:45
    Soy sauce or miso.
    You can get salt from seawater anyway.
    5AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:46
    With pepper you can handle meat or fish without stress
    salt's covered by seawater anyway.
    6AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:47
    It also works as a substitute for sake,
    plus it's got sweetness and umami.
    7AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:48
    Soy sauce, probably.
    For eating fish you catch, soy sauce's the way.
    Salt can be made from seawater.
    9AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:51
    Sugar, I'd say.
    Getting sugar on your own isn't exactly easy either.
    11AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:53
    I thought "mirin, makes sense," but is everyone here just dumping on it?
    12AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:53
    Assuming you can just walk to a beach just because it's called a desert "island" is naive.
    13AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:54
    Mirin, right? Reducing it down (nikiri-style) also adds a lot of depth to the flavor.
    16AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:55
    You can source salt locally, so I'd go with vinegar.
    18AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:57
    Shiro-dashi (white dashi) is the only choice
    it's already got sugar, soy sauce, mirin, and amino acids in it.
    20AnonymousOct 4, 2026 23:57
    Sugar, for sure.
    Just evaporate some seawater for the salt.
    23AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:02
    If it's mirin-tier, I'd pick Ajinomoto or Hi-Mi (MSG-based seasonings) instead
    goes with more things than mirin does.
    24AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:02
    Being handed just one seasoning on a desert island — what are you even supposed to do with that?
    25AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:02
    Re: #3
    Why is it a given that a desert island has an ocean?
    28AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:06
    Re: #25
    What kind of island doesn't have an ocean?
    38AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:13
    Re: #28
    Like an island in Lake Biwa, maybe?
    Chikubu Island or something.
    27AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:04
    What exactly leads to you ending up on a desert island in the first place?
    And who's this person who only lets you bring one seasoning?
    29AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:06
    Mirin alone is hard to use without soy sauce or dashi.
    Might as well just take sugar.
    30AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:07
    Soy sauce is the only real choice.
    Pour it on anything — sand, rope, whatever — and it becomes edible somehow.
    31AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:09
    Salt's everywhere around a desert island anyway.
    43AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:15
    Making salt with a salt field would be a hassle,
    but you could catch fish and simmer them in seawater (maasu-ni style).
    44AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:17
    If you're allowed fire and a pot, you can make salt.
    Making it purely by sun-drying would be pretty tough since it depends so much on the weather.
    45AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:17
    Mentsuyu (noodle soup base) seems like it'd be better, honestly.
    48AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:20
    Salt is exactly what you don't need on a desert island, Yamauchi.
    Karen's got it right.
    49AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:21
    Asahi Ponzu, obviously, if you think about it rationally.
    Though it's hard to find on shelves lately.
    52AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:23
    Whenever this kind of topic comes up,

    a lot of people picture a desert island as

    some perpetually-summer place surrounded by ocean.

    But that's not necessarily true
    so it could be a forested area with no sea or rivers in sight, or it could be ringed by sheer cliffs,
    or it could be a frozen wasteland that's below freezing year-round.
    54AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:24
    Re: #52
    Without any defined premise, there's no point overthinking it.
    58AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:26
    Re: #52
    If you're gonna go there, the answer just ends up being "well, I'm not going to a desert island in the first place."
    62AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:29
    These "what would you bring to a desert island" threads never have a defined premise, so arguing about it is kind of pointless anyway.
    75AnonymousOct 5, 2026 00:44
    No, mirin's the right answer. Salt's covered — there's seawater.

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    “If you could only bring one thing to a desert island” is a classic variety-show question, and this time too the thread drifted off-topic on 5ch because the premise — whether there’s an ocean nearby, whether fire or a pot are available, and so on — was never spelled out. The idea that salt can be made by boiling down seawater came up repeatedly, but in practice sun-drying it and securing fuel aren’t that simple, and some pushed back on the very assumption that salt can be “sourced locally.” The majority view was that mirin alone can’t substitute for saltiness or dashi, and that soy sauce or miso are more versatile — but it tends to go unmentioned that Takizawa’s comment was just an offhand remark on a variety show, not an attempt to win some optimal-survival-strategy contest.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment/Sports News+) thread “If Karen Takizawa could only bring one seasoning to a desert island? Studio stunned by her unexpected pick: “No way!?”“