Author: Japan Reacts Editorial

  • Kirin Cup Final ‘Japan vs. New Zealand’ to Air Live Nationwide — 5ch Reacts: ‘Since When Did National Team Matches Become Entertainment?’

    The Kirin Cup 2026 Final between Japan and New Zealand, kicking off at 7:30 PM on October 5th, will be broadcast live nationwide on the TV Asahi network. Commentary will be provided by Antarou Matsuki, Atsuto Uchida, and Yoichiro Kakitani, with Yuuka Kageyama appearing as a guest. The third-place match that same day, Ecuador vs. Panama, will stream on TV Asahi Sports’ YouTube channel. On 5ch, opinions split over the oddness of a ‘guest’ slot on a national team broadcast, why Yoichiro Kakitani is so valued as a commentator, and whether this matchup can even be called a ‘final’ in the first place.

    TV Asahi, which will broadcast the Kirin Cup Soccer 2026 Final between Japan and New Zealand, has announced the broadcast time and the commentary lineup.

    The New Zealand match, kicking off at 7:30 PM on Monday, October 5th, will air live nationwide on the TV Asahi network. Coverage begins at 7:00 PM, 30 minutes before kickoff.

    The third-place match between Ecuador and Panama, held the same day starting at 3:30 PM, will stream live on TV Asahi Sports’ YouTube channel.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:05
    What's with the 'guest' slot?
    Since when did the Japan national soccer team become entertainment?
    48AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:15
    Re: #4
    Pro sports are entertainment, aren't they?
    205AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:43
    Re: #4
    Well, there are sponsors involved, so…
    6AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:05
    Re: #1

    They should've gotten Haruka Fukuhara as the guest lol

    18AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:07
    Re: #6
    Calling Haruka Fukuhara a 'guest' is a stretch — if she's got no work that day she's probably just sitting in the VIP seats anyway
    23AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:08
    Re: #1

    First Half of 2026
    Announcing the Breakout TV Appearances Ranking!

    🥇 Narumi Takahashi +107 appearances
    🥈 Nana Takagi +92 appearances
    🥉 Takuro +88 appearances

    4th: Chou Tokkyu (Bullet Train) +75
    5th: Yoichiro Kakitani +72 ←
    6th: Aえ! group +59
    7th: Don Dekoruté +58
    8th: Rainbow +55
    27AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:09
    Re: #23
    What's going on — does his talent agency have that much pull?
    69AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:19
    Re: #23
    So baseball's losing out here too, huh
    117AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:28
    Re: #23
    Yurioka Choutokkyu-Q (comedian) is killing it
    29AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:09
    Re: #1

    Why Kakitani gets used so much


    914 Anonymous [] 2026/10/02 (Fri) 16:22:45.43

    Yesterday's two TBS soccer commentators 📺

    Masahiro Fukuda: 'Unlike Tanimura, Ueda can really bring the ball under control, can't he~'

    Yoichiro Kakitani: 'They're different types of players — Ueda's good at settling long balls, while Tanimura excels at through balls and crosses finished within two touches. It would've been nice if they'd created more of those chances in the first half.'
    51AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:16
    Re: #29
    Wait, is he actually valued for his skill as a commentator? I heard Kakitani went to Otemon Gakuin Otemachi High School — is that supposed to be a good school?
    165AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:35
    Re: #29
    A natural genius on the pitch, logical in the booth — how'd that combo happen lol
    31AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:10
    Was Kageyama's exit from Abema actually due to poor health?
    43AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:13
    Re: #31
    Was it because Kubo got poached (from the Abema broadcast lineup)?
    32AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:11
    Wait, the Kirin Cup even has a final now?
    49AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:15
    Re: #32
    Re: #45
    Up until now it's mostly been the Kirin Challenge Cup —
    one-off friendlies, match by match
    Only occasionally do they run the Kirin Cup as an actual tournament
    37AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:13
    The thing is, nobody thought of the recent matches against the South American powerhouses as part of a tournament, and nobody actually sees this New Zealand match as a 'final' either.
    94AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:24
    Re: #37
    Yeah, I was like 'wait, this is the final?' too
    41AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:13
    Honda's the top pick, but when he's not available, Kakitani'll do
    44AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:14
    If this is a 'final,' then which qualifying round did New Zealand even clear?
    176AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:36
    Re: #44
    Do you even understand what you just wrote?
    46AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:14
    I thought TV Asahi had pulled out of soccer broadcasting entirely
    55AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:16
    Re: #46
    They're doing it again next month too — prime-time broadcast on TV Asahi
    58AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:17
    Does the NZ national soccer team do the haka?
    66AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:19
    Re: #58
    They'd get a yellow card for provocation
    65AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:19
    This is supposed to be the final matchup?
    Their roster's nothing but players from New Zealand, Australia, Scotland, and England's second division — Japan should steamroll this easily
    They should be lining us up against stronger teams
    76AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:20
    Re: #65
    Japan isn't the kind of team that blows out weak opponents
    I think they'll get locked down defensively and it'll end up a close game
    Japan just doesn't have many tactical options
    113AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:27
    Re: #65
    Strong compared to who, exactly?
    72AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:20
    Are you kidding me?!
    They shrank the Schau Essen sausages
    ://i.imgur.com/uzTtPrG.jpeg
    79AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:21
    Re: #72
    I barely eat ham and sausage anymore
    98AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:24
    Isn't the Kirin Cup just the friendly-match thing?
    Does the Kirin Cup even have a final?
    108AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:27
    Re: #98
    Here's the tournament bracket
    https://www.jfa.jp/samuraiblue/kirincupsoccer_2026/img/img_tournament.jpg
    115AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:27
    Haruka Fukuhara and Haruna Kawaguchi sitting side by side watching from the stands —
    that's probably the shot TV producers want most lol
    188AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:39
    Re: #115
    Haruna and Haruka both predicted it together —
    Japan wins 2-0
    122AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:28
    All Kakitani's got is: at like 17 he hit a short-bounce no-trap outside-foot shot, nutmegged a famous Brazilian player in a flash, and scored a flashy double-touch heel shot in the J.League — that's basically his whole legacy
    144AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:33
    Re: #122
    For me the only thing I remember is that ridiculous super-long-range shot against France at the U-17 World Cup lol
    150AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:34
    Re: #122
    Genius!
    161AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:35
    Re: #153
    Got a problem with that?
    https://www.jfa.jp/samuraiblue/kirincupsoccer_2026/img/img_tournament.jpg
    224AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:49
    Even the media's hyping it up as a title match

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The Kirin Cup has traditionally been held mostly as a one-off friendly, so it’s unusual for this edition to feature a tournament bracket with an actual ‘final.’ This tournament also included matches against South American powerhouses, which is likely why the thread’s reaction of ‘wait, the final opponent is NZ?’ reflects confusion over how the bracket actually came together rather than any error. Commentator Yoichiro Kakitani is remembered for his trickster style of play during his career, but as the TBS commentary quoted in the thread shows, he’s praised for logical, articulate analysis — suggesting his broadcasting role rests on a different skill set than the flashiness of his playing days. It’s also worth noting, something the original article alone doesn’t convey, that inviting celebrity ‘guests’ onto terrestrial sports broadcasts has become a fairly standard practice in recent years, not something unique to this match. The fact that the third-place match is streaming YouTube-only appears to be a scheduling call made under limited terrestrial airtime.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisoku Sokuhou+) thread “[Soccer] Tonight: Kirin Cup Final ‘Japan vs NZ’ — TV Asahi airing live nationwide! Commentary by Antarou Matsuki, Atsuto Uchida & Yoichiro Kakitani, guest Yuuka Kageyama“.

  • Hama Sushi Soy-Sauce-Dumping Man Gets 1-Year Prison Term — The Backstory Behind His Viral Scandal, As Told in Court

    Defendant Yuta Niinishi (43), who went viral for dumping a huge amount of soy sauce out at a Hama Sushi conveyor-belt sushi restaurant, has been sentenced to one year of imprisonment. According to reports, this was the second time he had done it, and before the verdict his wife said she had only been sleeping “two or three hours a night.” Commenters on the thread pointed out that he committed the same act again at the same restaurant just five days after being released, which they believe is what led to the actual prison sentence this time. Some criticized Hama Sushi’s initially lax response, others debated whether the sentence was too light or too harsh, and some questioned whether his remorse was genuine.

    [Hama Sushi “Soy Sauce Dumping Man” Gets 1-Year Prison Sentence] “I used hands I’d washed to make them look dirty…” — Defendant Yuta Niinishi’s account in court of how the scandal unfolded; before the verdict, his wife said she could only sleep “two or three hours a night”

    Mon, Oct 5, 7:13 AM JST

    NEWS Post Seven

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    8AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:37
    Re: #1
    That's short.
    Is Hama Sushi the first place where one of these stunts actually led to arrest?
    He probably figured paying a fine was the end of it, got cocky, and now he's got a criminal record?
    He's probably a net addict, so there's no way he can behave for five years.
    61AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:00
    Re: #8
    ↑
    What's with this guy
    Is he a "chuu"? (net slang for an immature, trollish poster)
    152AnonymousOct 5, 2026 11:05
    Re: #8
    A fine is itself a guilty verdict,
    so he already had a criminal record at that point…
    14AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:40
    Companies need to come down on scum like this with everything they've got — zero leniency.
    194AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:01
    Re: #14
    Exactly, this is basically terrorism against the restaurant industry — better to crush it completely than to forgive it.
    16AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:40
    The lack of any real-life reaction is probably what stings him most.
    The reality that he never had any actual influence — he just became a toy for the internet to play with.
    22AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:43
    Re: #16
    There are just too many of these incidents now, none of them really stand out anymore lol

    I don't think anything short of a fresh stunt — like that "short sleeper" guy (another viral internet personality) — is going to satisfy his need for attention.
    19AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:41
    500,000 yen is cheap.
    They should've gotten at least 3 million yen out of him.
    144AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:54
    Re: #19
    Isn't he going to get hit hard with a civil suit from Hama Sushi after this?
    35AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:48
    I saw a photo of the 43-year-old.
    How does a guy like that end up married with kids?
    And he was unemployed, right?
    What was going through that woman's head when she married him?
    182AnonymousOct 5, 2026 11:51
    Re: #35
    Initiative beats everything else.

    A highly educated, high-earning guy who's too shy to even talk to women loses out to
    an empty-headed, unemployed pickup artist who gets rejected by 100 women but still walks up to the 101st —
    the latter is the one who actually ends up with a girlfriend.
    40AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:50
    Hama Sushi's the one at fault here.
    They went easy on him the first time, so he did it again.
    43AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:51
    Re: #40
    Exactly.
    That's what you get for treating him like a decent human being.
    42AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:51
    What happens if other customers find out about the incident and claim it made them feel sick?
    46AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:53
    He didn't need a suspended sentence or anything, right?
    49AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:54
    Give him five years and he's bound to reoffend again somewhere in there.
    50AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:55
    Re: #49
    There's no way a guy like him could hold down any other kind of job anyway.
    51AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:55
    After graduating junior high, defendant Niinishi drifted between jobs like cleaning work, but at the time of the incident he was unemployed and living with just his wife.

    Funny how weirdos like this are married at a surprisingly high rate.
    53AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:56
    Wait, he seriously has kids?
    That kid's life is going to be on hard mode, isn't it?
    58AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:58
    Re: #53
    At this point the kid should just be grateful he hasn't been killed by abuse or neglect.
    55AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:57
    Apparently this guy is super remorseful.
    140AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:51
    Re: #55
    A one-off poster (someone whose ID shows up only this once) saying this — is that the guy himself? Stay off the internet too, dude.
    141AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:52
    Re: #55
    "Chomp-chomp" remorse? (wordplay swapping "mucha-mucha" [thoroughly] for "musha-musha" [the sound of chewing] — joking that he's just munching away, not actually sorry)
    56AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:58
    If "grab it if it's free" is treated as the correct mindset, the world's finished.
    Everything should be made paid.
    And if you actually care about a shop, you should be tipping all the more.
    60AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:00
    Re: #56
    Are you an idiot?
    Pay shouldn't come from anyone but the store itself.
    If sales are good, the owner should just properly hand out bonuses to staff.
    59AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:59
    The industry's also to blame for not banning guys like this.
    Sure, he might score about 1,000 yen out of it, but…
    62AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:01
    Re: #59
    Of course they've banned him, lol
    But there's nothing they can do if he just walks back in on his own, lol
    They're not checking ID at the door every single time, lol lol
    85AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:11
    Hama Sushi lines up a ton of different soy sauces, but
    none of them actually taste good…

    Well, Hama Sushi's the kind of place you go to "hear the voice" anyway (a jab that it's known for its talking order/call-out gimmick, not the food)
    92AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:14
    Re: #85
    You thought the same thing? I had exactly the same reaction.
    192AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:00
    Oh, so it came with a suspended sentence?
    196AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:05
    Re: #192
    That was the first offense.
    He reoffended five days after being released, so this time it's actual prison time.
    197AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:06
    Re: #196
    Combine it with the last one and that's a full ippon (a judo term for a finishing point/win) — ten years, locked in.
    201AnonymousOct 5, 2026 12:11
    Re: #196
    What's with this guy?
    Is he hearing or seeing radio waves or something? (slang implying he's delusional/not all there)

    Background and Key Points of Debate

    The “imprisonment” (kokin-kei) sentence used in this ruling is a newly created penalty introduced by the June 2025 revision of Japan’s Penal Code, which abolished the old distinction between “penal labor” (chōeki) and “imprisonment without labor” (kinko); it’s equivalent to what used to be a one-year chōeki sentence. Because the term is unfamiliar, it can be hard to judge how serious the sentence actually is, but it remains real prison time all the same. What split opinion on the thread was how to judge Hama Sushi’s handling of the case. Some argued that letting him off with a fine the first time is exactly what enabled the second offense, while others pushed back that it’s unfair to place all the blame on the store. On the sentence itself, some felt it was too light given that this was a repeat offense, while others felt that actual prison time for a “nuisance video” stunt is already a harsh punishment in its own right — no consensus emerged either way. The wife’s comments mentioned in the news report barely came up in the thread at all. This case is part of a wider pattern of similar nuisance acts at conveyor-belt sushi chains like Hama Sushi, with companies increasingly reporting offenders to police and pushing for tougher penalties.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Flash+) thread “[Hama Sushi “Soy Sauce Dumping Man” Gets 1-Year Prison Sentence] “I used hands I’d washed to make them look dirty…” — Defendant Yuta Niinishi’s account in court of how the scandal unfolded.”

  • PS6’s CPU Reportedly Upgrading to Zen 6, Up to 120% Higher IPC Than PS5

    The next-gen “PS6” console is expected to launch sometime between late 2027 and 2028, and new reports claim its CPU will move from the PS5’s AMD Zen 2 to the Zen 6 generation, boosting IPC (instructions processed per clock cycle) by up to 120%. The chip is said to be a semi-custom “Orion” design co-developed by AMD and Sony, built on TSMC’s 3nm process. On 5ch’s console-war board, users weighed in with skepticism — noting that the actual generation-to-generation IPC gains for Zen (about 19% for Zen 3, 13% for Zen 4, 16% for Zen 5) make it hard to see how four generations add up to 120% — alongside worries that the price will skyrocket.

    New performance estimates have surfaced regarding the CPU in the next-generation “PS6” console, which is rumored to launch sometime between late 2027 and 2028. The PS6 is said to move from the AMD Zen 2 architecture used in the PS5 to the Zen 6 generation, which could bring a major boost to IPC (instructions executed per clock cycle). Current predictions suggest that CPU performance far exceeding the PS5’s could help maintain high frame rates even in games with complex physics simulations and large numbers of NPCs.

    The PS6’s CPU is reportedly built around “Orion,” a semi-custom chip co-developed by AMD and Sony, combining TSMC’s 3nm process with the Zen 6 architecture.

    Source: sumahodigest.com / Original article here

    15AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:52
    Zen 2 was already a bit dated even back then — people were saying they should've held out for Zen 3.
    25AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:01
    Re: #15
    That was right when RDNA2 barely missed the cut, so Zen 3 (which launched around the same time as RDNA2) was probably a no-go too.
    The Xbox Series X uses Zen 2 as well.
    17AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:56
    No way this gets cheaper, and no way it sells, so I've stopped taking next-gen console specs seriously (´・ω・`)
    Doesn't matter how high-performance something is if nobody can afford it.
    20AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:58
    Re: #17
    "Nobody can afford it" = wrong
    "I can't afford it" = correct
    19AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:56
    The Switch 2 is finished (well, it already was).
    52AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:01
    Re: #19
    Sorry to say, but the Switch 2's ARM chip is, broadly speaking, way more efficient per clock cycle than x86 CPUs.
    23AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:59
    They should just let it work as a PC. Sounds like the Xbox is basically heading that direction already, though.
    24AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:01
    Re: #23
    If these specs are real, Steam games should run on it with room to spare. I really hope they go that route.
    38AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:25
    Re: #23
    They probably don't want to bow down to Windows, so why not just ship it with Ubuntu instead 😁
    26AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:02
    Re: #20
    Obviously — if people can't afford it, it won't sell. We're talking about a platform that lives or dies on sales volume here, you know?
    27AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:04
    Re: #26
    Everyone would buy it even at a million yen. You're just the one who can't afford it.
    36AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:16
    The Japanese PS5 being 50,000 yen before tax is going to make it hard to judge the price this time.

    I think a lot of people assume "surely it won't go above 100,000 yen," but even the much less powerful Steam Machine was 200,000 yen.
    37AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:19
    Re: #36
    That's just a special bargain price for Japan. With the PS6, poor old Japan is probably getting cut loose.
    40AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:34
    I think the reason the PS5 Pro can't ship [in enough volume] is that they're taking a loss even at today's high price.
    The 2TB SSD and the 4nm chip make it expensive.

    Since the Steam Machine is 200,000 yen, they'd probably want something like 170,000 yen.
    The PS5's 6nm process is still relatively cheap.

    Which means the PS6's 3nm chip will be even more expensive.
    Maybe close to 300,000 yen just in production cost?
    And that's a conservative estimate.

    Say they sell it for 200,000 yen anyway —
    to claw back a 100,000 yen loss through software royalties, you'd need to sell 300,000 yen worth of games just to net 90,000 yen.
    In reality, they probably wouldn't even see that much in sales.
    44AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:43
    Re: #40
    Storage is the weak point for pricing, so that's what they'll cut — 1TB at most, maybe even down to 500GB if it's bad.
    If it crosses the $1,000 line, even the US market won't let that slide.
    So they'll aim to keep it under $1,000, which means in Japan it'll probably come in under 200,000 yen.
    94AnonymousOct 5, 2026 11:19
    Re: #40
    Then just sell it for 300,000 yen.
    41AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:37
    120%… that's the kind of gain a smartphone would just lose to the next OS update.
    43AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:42
    Re: #41
    We're talking about IPC here, right? Once you factor in the clock speed jump from shrinking 7nm down to 2nm, 120% doesn't even come close to the real gain.
    47AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:51
    Re: #41
    IPC has stayed basically flat from the iPhone 12 to the iPhone 18, though.
    A 120% IPC improvement is way too much of a stretch.
    If they meant IPC improves 20% — reaching 120% of the original value — that might be realistic, though.
    49AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:57
    Re: #47
    Agreed.
    I think the correct reading isn't "a 120% improvement," but rather "a 20% improvement, bringing it to 120% [of the original]."

    But even so, that's rough. The 8-core/16-thread setup is staying the same as the PS5, so compared to past PlayStation generations, the jump is way too small.
    51AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:59
    Re: #49
    Going from Zen 2 to Zen 3 alone already gave up to a 19% boost.
    https://www.4gamer.net/games/461/G046172/20201009109/

    If you stack that all the way from Zen 2 to Zen 6, yeah, 120% starts to sound believable.
    54AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:01
    Re: #49
    The PS6 reportedly packs two Zen 6 LP cores dedicated to handling the OS and background tasks, so unlike the PS5 — where 1-2 cores get tied up running the OS — there's no more interrupt lag eating into performance. That alone should be a big jump in real-world performance.
    All 8 cores/16 threads become fully available for the game itself.
    55AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:06
    Re: #51
    Zen 2 was an older architecture with IPC roughly on par with Skylake.
    Zen 3 is where it caught up to Intel.
    Everything since then has only seen margin-of-error-level gains.
    If anything, AMD stopped chasing raw IPC and leaned hard into a server-optimized architecture instead — which is why their server market share keeps growing.
    58AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:22
    Re: #55
    https://www.4gamer.net/games/612/G061273/20220925006/
    Zen 4: 13% IPC improvement

    https://ascii.jp/elem/000/004/210/4210323/
    Zen 5: 16% IPC improvement

    Various benchmarks went up proportionally too.
    56AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:19
    Re: #38
    There was actually a console that was sold partly on being able to run Linux — it was called the PS3. Though Linux support ended up getting scrapped because it turned into a security hole.
    60AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:23
    Re: #56
    Sony got sued on the grounds that if the PS2 and PS3 were going to use open-source Linux, then the PS3's own OS should also be made fully open-source and free. That's why they switched to a custom BSD and dropped Linux.
    And that's exactly why it became impossible to use a PlayStation as a PC.
    63AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:55
    To begin with, the PS5's clock speed alone is already pushed way past where it should be — it runs crazy hot because of it.
    64AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:58
    Re: #63
    The Xbox's CPU and GPU were a newer generation and looked like they might win on raw performance, so Sony scrambled and cranked the PS5's clock speed way up to compensate. That's the whole reason it's being pushed so hard.
    66AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:07
    Re: #58
    You just proved with your own data that the "120% improvement" claim is false.
    70AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:12
    Re: #66
    Why are you dropping the word "up to"?
    72AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:22
    Re: #70
    Even AMD's own marketing figure is already the "up to" maximum.
    If the max per generation is only around a 10% improvement, four generations won't add up to a 120% improvement.
    Measured in actual games, even a 50% improvement would be questionable.
    For gaming especially, minor architectural tweaks don't move IPC much anymore — it's gotten to the point where you need brute-force moves like slapping on 3D cache to get real gains.
    76AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:30
    Re: #72
    That's why the source I posted mixes average and max figures. There are cases where IPC jumps massively just from adding AVX-512 support, after all.
    75AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:28
    I say this every time, but PC and Xbox both use the same generation of AMD chips too — so what's the actual advantage here lol
    79AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:34
    Re: #75
    On console-war boards, Xbox is unconditionally ranked above everything else.
    83AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:43
    Seriously, nobody's going to be able to afford this — it'll probably run 150,000 yen.
    84AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:47
    Re: #83
    150,000 yen would already be a massive loss. No management team would sign off on eating a 1-2 trillion yen deficit like that.
    86AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:56
    Once the PS6 drops, 98% of the "my PC can handle anything" crowd (パソコンガ, PC-bragging gamers) are gonna end up with low-spec rigs by comparison — can't wait 😊
    91AnonymousOct 5, 2026 11:06
    Re: #86
    Wake up from that dream already.
    87AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:58
    Waiting on the official announcement. Same as with PCs — everything comes down to the price in the end.
    92AnonymousOct 5, 2026 11:08
    Re: #87
    My guess is they'll scale back performance from the original plan and cut storage too. As long as they beef up the AI features, they can paper over the rest.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The “IPC” at the center of the PS6 CPU buzz is a measure separate from clock speed — it indicates how many instructions can be processed per clock cycle, and serves as a yardstick for real generational performance gains. Looking at AMD’s past Zen architectures, the published improvements were roughly 19% from Zen 2 to Zen 3, 13% for Zen 4, and 16% for Zen 5 — numbers that don’t easily stack up to 120% even when added together. That suggests the “up to 120%” figure is likely a maximum value for specific workloads, and actual in-game performance isn’t simply going to more than double. Alongside debate over how to interpret the number, the thread also showed real concern that the switch to TSMC’s 3nm process and larger storage capacities will drive up costs, pushing the console’s retail price well above the current PS5. IPC gains and retail pricing are technically separate issues, but in the thread they ended up tangled together.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Console Wars)) thread “[Good News] PS6’s Zen 6 Said to Boost IPC by Up to 120% Over PS5’s Zen 2“.

  • Fans Clash Over Mystery ‘Hai-se-no!’ Call at Rosy Chronicle Shows

    At live shows for the Hello! Project group Rosy Chronicle, a male fan has reportedly been spotted shouting a unique call of his own — “Hai-se-no!” — in place of the usual standard calls. According to a report on 5ch’s Hello! Project board, other fans nearby directly confronted him, telling him to “never say that again,” and a thread was started about it. The discussion went beyond whether his behavior was right or wrong, growing into a bigger debate about just how far fan-cheering traditions like MIX chants and calls should continue at shows today.

    1AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:14
    @
    That 'Hai-se-no' yokai that started showing up at Shiodome yesterday (?) was back again today.
    For some reason he skipped it during "Naji Ai" (a song nickname) and busted it out during some other song instead…
    3AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:17
    The only song where 'se-no' gets a pass is Lalapipi.
    43AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:56
    Re: #3
    Let "Hai-se-no!" slide for the Ocha no Kitty-chan song too.
    8AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:19
    People who shout 'hai-se-no' are just nuisance otaku, plain and simple.
    9AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:19
    If you told the guys doing the 'oi-oi' call "You're loud! It's grating!" would they actually stop?
    If not, you've got no right to lecture anyone else.
    21AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:31
    Re: #9
    The sheer numbers are different though.
    26AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:45
    Good thing he's not some geezer who gets defensive and snaps back with stuff like Re: #9.
    12AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:27
    When there's a window to do MIX I get the urge to join in, but I hold back.
    14AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:28
    They should just set official calls and ban everything else.
    It's not like the old days when creative cheering culture used to spring up on its own.
    16AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:29
    Plenty of newcomers dislike calls altogether anyway.
    Stuff like 'oi-oi,' 'fu-fu,' or just shouting names is plenty.
    17AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:29
    Maybe it's time to drop the fantasy that you're somehow special and just admit you're otaku for an underground idol group that shows up at underground idol festivals too. Of course MIX and 'hai-se-no' are going to happen at this point.
    23AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:39
    The real problem with this 'hai-se-no' thing is
    it's seriously just one guy saying it.
    24AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:40
    I'm curious which song he actually said 'hai-se-no' during.
    25AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:43
    Rena-chan's cute, super cute ×5!
    Go Rena-chan, nail that quiet breakdown chorus!!
    27AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:46
    Groups should never have their own complicated, group-specific calls.
    And it's even worse when the idols themselves start lecturing fans with "here's how you say it here."
    'Hai-se-no' and MIX are the best kind of culture precisely because even first-timers can join in and everyone feels united.
    '8bit' is basically a song written for 'hai-se-no' and MIX.
    I don't know what song they played at Shiodome, but I feel bad for Grandpa Hai-se-no.
    28AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:48
    Hardly anyone in Hello! Project even does that anymore, and you're calling it unity…?
    31AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:50
    'Hai-se-no'? 'Hai-se-no'?
    57AnonymousOct 5, 2026 11:06
    Re: #31
    You can hear "Hai-se-no!" at the start of Angerme's "Tsugi Tsugi Zokuzoku."
    32AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:51
    Old man! I'll back you up starting next time!
    44AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:57
    Re: #32
    From home? lol
    41AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:55
    'Ieeettaigaaa'
    So that one's fine then?
    46AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:57
    Re: #41
    That's basically MIX though.
    Stuff like the 'ja-ja' call is just a self-indulgent wank-off call.
    47AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:57
    It'd be fine if guys just shouted 'Woo!' in a normal voice, but there are way too many old guys doing it in a creepy, gross voice.
    52AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:59
    Re: #47
    That's why I keep saying Rosy should switch to 'Yaaa!'
    54AnonymousOct 5, 2026 11:03
    I want Rosy's shows to be clean — no 'hai-se-no,' no 'ore no,' no 'chou zekkou kawaii' nonsense.
    It's exactly because this is such an important stage in their career that I want to keep it clean and treat it with care.
    Isn't that how everyone feels?
    Or does everyone actually welcome it turning into an underground-idol-style scene?
    56AnonymousOct 5, 2026 11:06
    Re: #54
    They don't even give us the kind of fan interaction underground idols do, so no, I don't welcome it.
    Otaku making noise instead of actually watching the idols isn't a 'culture' — I hate it.
    59AnonymousOct 5, 2026 11:07
    Are Rosy fans actually vicious?
    I always figured they were just a bunch of DDs (fans who like lots of idols rather than being loyal to one).
    61AnonymousOct 5, 2026 11:08
    Re: #59
    The most militant fanbase in all of Hello! Project.

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    MIX chants and calls are a fan-cheering tradition that took root at idol shows well beyond Hello! Project, developing over time as rhythmic accompaniment to songs. In recent years, however, there’s been a growing push to keep shows welcoming to first-time attendees, and that has made many fans less tolerant of calls and MIX chants with a strong, group-specific flavor. What made this case stand out is that ‘hai-se-no’ isn’t an official call or a widely established chant — it was reportedly being repeated by just one specific person. In the thread, opinions clashed head-on between those who feel calling culture itself should be protected and those who see it as a nuisance that alienates first-time fans, with no resolution in sight. It’s also worth noting that details like exactly which songs the call was used during were never confirmed within the thread — this whole debate stems from a single on-site sighting.

    *This article is compiled as excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Fans Lose It at the ‘Hai-se-no Old Man’ Who Started Showing Up at Rosy Chronicle Shows and Lecture Him to Never Say It Again lmaooo.”

  • Served Someone Else’s Canceled Ramen — 5ch Says It’s Just Like a ‘Nearly-New’ Used Car

    The post on 5ch described an incident at a ramen shop. Right after the poster placed an order, another customer’s ramen was finished and brought to their table — but that customer suddenly had something urgent come up, canceled on the spot, and left. The shop then served that very bowl to the poster instead, leaving them feeling “unsettled” about it. The thread split into two camps: the practical types who argued “there’s nothing wrong with the food itself, so just eat it,” and those who felt psychologically uneasy, saying “I don’t want something that was made for someone else.” The debate escalated into comparisons with “nearly-new used cars” and “previously booked hotel rooms.”

    1AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:55
    I ordered a ramen.
    Then another customer's ramen order was finished and carried over to their table.
    But that customer suddenly had something urgent come up, canceled the ramen, and left the shop.
    2AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:56
    Going to a ramen shop in the first place — that rock-bottom dump — was your mistake right there.
    3AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:56
    If it's not ramen made specifically for me, I don't want it.
    I want to be treated as special.
    5AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:58
    I don't want ramen that someone else canceled.
    7AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:59
    The staff cooking my ramen in response to MY order — that process is part of the service too!
    10AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:02
    Once it's been set down on a table, I'd be put off by it.
    11AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:03
    Re: #1
    You're the type who wouldn't stay in a hotel room that opened up because someone else canceled either, right?
    Used room, used bed — same thing.
    19AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:06
    Re: #11
    Exactly.
    It has to be a brand-new room with a brand-new bed.
    25AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:09
    Re: #11 That analogy doesn't hold up.
    In this case, the issue isn't that your own order is wrong — it's that someone else's order got handed to you instead.
    A canceled hotel room isn't "a room someone else ordered" being handed off — that's just a vacant room, plain and simple.
    12AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:03
    If it's before they've served it to that other customer, I'd eat it without a second thought.
    No problem at all.
    14AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:03
    Just demand your money back, walk out, and never go back.
    Why would you even want to keep dealing with that place?
    15AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:04
    If it's a ramen under 700 yen, I'd just quietly eat it.
    If it's over 1000 yen, I'd either refuse it or walk out.
    22AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:07
    If the item hasn't actually been delivered yet, the deal isn't finalized — just say you want to add a topping.
    24AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:09
    Back in the bubble-economy boom days, weren't there shops that wouldn't even start cooking until they had orders for 4 people?
    27AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:10
    Re: #26
    It might've just arrived at the dealership and not been registered yet — don't go deciding that on your own.
    28AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:11
    Even rich people sleep in rooms with used beds.
    They eat ramen out of used bowls too.
    Re: #1 is just being neurotic.
    33AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:12
    If it's a shop that allows cancellations, I'd just cancel that order and get something else lol
    35AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:13
    Re: #33 The previous customer paid for it and then canceled.
    34AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:13
    Why not just have them remake it?
    They'll probably think "is this guy an idiot?" but—

    The end.
    36AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:13
    There are surprisingly a lot of people who say they don't want secondhand chopsticks.
    They seem to ask for disposable ones or bring their own chopsticks.

    But
    nobody brings their own ramen bowl.
    Everyone eats out of a used bowl.
    37AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:15
    The unease in this case isn't about secondhand bowls.
    There's no such thing as a customer demanding to be served in a brand-new bowl in the first place.
    38AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:15
    Re: #35
    Then that ramen isn't yours, so you should be able to demand they remake it.
    41AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:17
    Re: #38 Ramen shops don't accept cancellations like that because it's the same product with no quality problem.
    39AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:16
    So it's not the kind of shop that does delicate little touches like "that guy looks like he's got high blood pressure, let me quietly cut back on his salt."
    42AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:17
    Re: #39
    That's the pattern of a shop that goes under.
    40AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:17
    I'm a regular at a shop where you line up before opening.
    Even if I'm like 10th in line, they whip my order out fast.
    Other customers sometimes look annoyed about it,
    but that's not a problem, right?
    43AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:18
    Re: #40
    A shop like that deserves to go under.
    44AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:19
    I get a little hesitant when the cutlery is all piled together in one spot.
    If spoons, knives, and forks are laid out on their sides, other customers might've been pawing all over them,
    and if I peek into the bottom of the chopstick holder I might lose my appetite entirely.
    45AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:19
    Well, I get it, somewhat.
    If you focus only on the item you were actually served, there doesn't seem to be a real problem.

    On the other hand, I also get the feeling of "why am I suddenly stuck with a liability the shop should've eaten" or "don't get lazy on me over a few hundred yen."

    Right now I feel the same unease as the original poster, but if I were back in college I probably would've just accepted it without a second thought.
    I was broke back then — after a drinking party, once the group at the next table left, we'd all dig into their leftovers.
    50AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:27
    I went out for lunch with my girlfriend earlier.

    Me: "I'll get ramen, what about you?"
    Her: "I'll get ramen too."
    Staff: "What can I get you?"
    Me: "Two ramens."
    Her: "Same for me."



    Four bowls came out.
    51AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:30
    Re: #50
    So since you both wanted the same thing, one bowl of ramen was the correct order?
    63AnonymousOct 5, 2026 11:14
    Re: #50
    Totally made-up story ("uso-matsu" — 5ch slang for an obviously fabricated anecdote).
    The staff would repeat the order back to confirm it, come on.
    58AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:56
    If it's set down right in front of the customer who canceled it, that'd feel bad.
    It's basically a "nearly-new" used car, in car terms.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    This kind of “I was served a canceled order” anecdote touches on an area of restaurant etiquette that isn’t formally spelled out anywhere. Hygienically there’s no issue, since the food was never touched — but what split the thread was something more psychological: the “value” of the item as a product versus whether it was made specifically for you. Some pointed out that perception shifts with price, saying their reaction would differ between a roughly 700-yen item and one over 1000 yen. There were also counterarguments that comparisons like “nearly-new used cars” or “previously booked hotel rooms” miss the real point — in practice, this comes down less to a hygiene issue and more to differences in individual sensibility and personality.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “What Happened at a Ramen Shop.”

  • Shin Sakagami’s “Why Can’t Idols Get Married?” Remark Sparks Debate

    Actor Shin Sakagami’s remarks on the October 5 broadcast of Kansai TV/Fuji TV’s “Shunkan LIVE Toretate!” sparked discussion on 5ch after he questioned idol marriage bans, asking “Why can’t idols get married?” and “If you want to be a top idol, do you have to give up your human rights?” Most posts in the thread pointed out that marriage isn’t actually banned — it’s just that idols who marry tend to lose popularity — while others noted that pro athletes also face activity restrictions depending on their sport, arguing that “occupational restrictions aren’t unique to idols.” Still, some posts turned the question back on the idol business model itself, splitting the debate between “outright prohibition” and “commercial risk.”

    Shin Sakagami: “Why can’t idols get married?” “If you want to be a top idol, do you have to give up your human rights?”

    Actor and TV personality Shin Sakagami appears on today’s (the 5th) broadcast of Kansai TV/Fuji TV’s “Shunkan LIVE Toretate!” (weekdays, 1:50 PM).

    The “No Holding Back! Sakagami & Tetsuo’s News Cut-Through” segment with journalist Tetsuo Suzuki airs for the first time in about a month.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:31
    It's not that it's forbidden — fans just switch to someone else.
    3AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:32
    It's because that's what they're selling.
    If you're fine with losing popularity, go ahead and get married.
    Nobody said it's forbidden.
    4AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:32
    It's not forbidden.
    You just lose popularity — if you still want to keep going after that, go for it.
    5AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:32
    They're saying you can do whatever you want as long as you don't get caught.
    6AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:32
    For idols and (female) voice actors, marriage is the end.
    If you want a long career, aim to become an actress instead.
    9AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:32
    "Do you have to give up your human rights?"
    ↑
    Yeah, pretty much?
    If you don't like it, just don't become an idol.
    Nobody's forcing you.
    10AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:33
    Marriage itself is fine.
    The problem is just not retiring gracefully after marriage, without cheating around or committing crimes.
    11AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:33
    Popularity drops once you get married — I can only think of about three celebrities whose popularity didn't really take a hit after marrying.
    17AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:34
    Idols are essentially products, so restrictions naturally arise in a popularity-based business.
    He's been in showbiz for decades — how does he not get that?
    70AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:40
    Re: #17
    Right, lol — they can't even write their own songs.
    They're just a manufactured image for the adults behind the scenes to cash in on.
    Once the devoted fans who were fooled snap back to reality after a dating scandal, the business is dead in the water.
    18AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:34
    Being an idol is
    a system for making easy money.
    Nobody's forcing anyone.
    Whoever wants to do it just does it on their own.

    ↑
    Why make a stupid fuss about "human rights"?
    If you don't like it, quit.
    If you don't want to earn money, quit.
    19AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:34
    If you're confident you can still sell with that, do whatever you want.
    21AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:35
    Getting married is fine, but fans walking away because of it is also the fans' free choice.
    22AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:35
    A new genre: the "married idol"
    23AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:35
    They're basically like monks in training. You can't be a revered figure while living like an ordinary person of this world.
    24AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:35
    Well, it's a business built on fantasy romance, isn't it.
    25AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:35
    What exactly does "human rights" mean here?

    Pro athletes can't freely enjoy things like skiing either —
    are they being forced to give up their human rights too?
    26AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:36
    That's just the risk that comes with chasing the rewards.
    27AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:36
    Idols are meant to "graduate" eventually (the idol-world term for retiring/moving on).
    28AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:36
    Rena Yamazaki is impressive.

    She announced she's pregnant but apparently isn't married.
    29AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:36
    This guy hosts a show about rescue animals,
    but has he lost all motivation?
    There's no more location shooting, just lazy chit-chat the whole time now.
    32AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:36
    Once a revered idol gets married, they suddenly become uncomfortably real.
    33AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:36
    Then why hide the relationship? Because that's the sales pitch they're using.

    Fans drawn in by fauxmance marketing are bound to leave over romance scandals.

    Though there are some who stay popular even after marrying.
    34AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:36
    Who's he even mad at?
    It's the talent agencies enforcing an insider rule the entertainment industry made up just to squeeze money out of the fan "pigs," isn't it?
    36AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:36
    Because it kills the money-making.
    Is that why Timelesz has a 5-year rule or something?
    Restrictions like that exist.
    Banning marriage for life would be too much, but a 5-year ban seems fine.
    37AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:36
    It's not that it's forbidden — it just kills your popularity, that's all.
    38AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:36
    Nobody said it's forbidden.
    Whether fans stay fans after the marriage is a separate issue.
    39AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:37
    Top soccer players can't ski or even ride a bike.
    People should understand that certain jobs come with restrictions.
    48AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:38
    Why? Because there are too few fans willing to indulge in a fake romance with someone who's off sleeping with some guy — it just doesn't sell.
    It's not that marketing it is banned outright, it's just that something that doesn't sell isn't a viable business.
    66AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:39
    What is this guy even talking about.
    111AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:43
    Re: #66
    Even though he's friends with Yasushi Akimoto and has done AKB-related work, lol.
    75AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:40
    I get it for idols, but voice actors? That's a mystery.
    93AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:42
    Re: #75
    Though there are voice actors fans actually tell to hurry up and get married, lol.
    98AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:43
    Re: #75
    Probably because at some point the industry decided to steer toward making money off the "idol" marketing angle, no?
    96AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:42
    Does anyone actually think marriage is forbidden?
    123AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:44
    Re: #96
    They could just start their own idol group where marriage is totally fine.
    But as long as they're stuck somewhere bound by that unwritten rule, it seems impossible…

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    The “no dating/no marriage” rule for idols is usually not a legal regulation but a self-imposed restriction based on agency contracts and unwritten industry norms. Sakagami’s phrase “giving up your human rights” sparked discussion, but the majority view in the thread took a contract-based framing: nobody is forcing idols into this, and they’re free to quit if they don’t like it. Commenters pointed to pro baseball players being restricted from private activities like skiing or cycling even in the off-season, suggesting that “idols aren’t the only industry with occupational restrictions.” However, unlike other professions, idols’ popularity itself is their source of income, so a dating or marriage scandal tends to directly trigger fans leaving. Sakagami’s question highlighted the issue of how to interpret the difference between “formal prohibition” and “commercial self-restraint,” though the thread itself never reached a consensus.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “Shin Sakagami: “Why can’t idols get married?” “If you want to be a top idol, do you have to give up your human rights?””

  • Is “Japan Is the World’s Most Livable Country” Actually True? 5ch Weighs In

    A thread titled “Japanese people say ‘Japan is the world’s most livable country’ — is that actually true?” appeared on 5ch’s “Nanademo Jikkyo G” (Live Broadcast General) board, pitting posters who cited public safety, infrastructure, and welfare support for the vulnerable against those who pointed to Japan’s high teen suicide rate, death from overwork, and rising prices. When the conversation turned to how “happiness” should even be measured, some argued that people distrust happiness indexes yet blindly cling to Japan’s good image anyway. In the end, the debate centered less on whether Japan is truly number one and more on what the word “livable” is even supposed to mean.

    1AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:43
    Says the guy who's never lived in another country
    2AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:44
    It's just a country that happens to be blessed with safety, infrastructure, good food, and entertainment
    8AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:46
    Re: #2
    Plenty of countries beat Japan on safety, plenty beat it on food.
    It's not even close to top of the list.
    11AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:47
    At the end of the day it all comes down to the happiness index
    13AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:48
    Re: #11
    Happiness is relative, so there's probably just as much unhappiness balancing it out
    16AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:49
    Re: #11
    The definition of happiness shifts with language and religion, so there's no single universal yardstick for it
    12AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:47
    Maybe we should actually test it with concrete examples — like, which country would be happier than Japan?
    22AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:51
    Re: #12
    Even when you show them an index they just call it dubious and reject it.
    Blind faith in anything positive, but any negative point gets shut down with "you don't know what it's like abroad!"
    That's basically the whole pattern right there
    14AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:48
    Re: #8
    Are Singapore, Iceland, and Australia really that much more livable than Japan, though?
    18AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:49
    Re: #14
    If you were born and raised in Iceland rather than just moving there, that'd be the more comfortable life.
    Does a resource-poor island nation that exported the word "karoshi" (death from overwork) to the world and has a high teen suicide rate really have that much of an edge?
    17AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:49
    I don't know about "world's best," but I'd say it's up near the top.
    Though with prices rising and public safety slipping, I think it's going to fall apart from here
    28AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:51
    Re: #17
    Japan's inflation is nothing by global standards, c'mon
    20AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:50
    Re: #16
    Happiness isn't an absolute score — you don't need one universal yardstick.
    "Am I living a happy life?" That question alone is enough
    29AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:52
    Re: #20
    Religion aside, language differences matter because they shape the very content of the question itself
    21AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:50
    You can walk around out there without ever fearing for your life, that's something
    27AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:51
    Re: #21
    If your life were at risk every single day, even one peaceful day would feel like happiness
    24AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:51
    Re: #18
    Japan and Iceland actually have almost identical suicide rates
    31AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:52
    Re: #24
    Japan's pretty much the only place where suicide is the #1 cause of death among teens
    35AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:53
    Re: #31
    What about South Korea?
    It also just means it's a country where people don't die from illness or accidents
    38AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:55
    Re: #31
    There's actually nothing negative about suicide being the top cause of death.
    When public safety is good, young people rarely die of illness, so suicide naturally rises to the top of the list by default.
    The actual number of suicides rising or falling is worth worrying about — but its rank among causes of death means nothing on its own
    32AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:53
    At the very least, it's a pretty easy country if you're vulnerable.
    Welfare for the elderly and disabled is solid, and sex crime rates are low by world standards
    48AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:00
    Re: #32
    That welfare only works "on paper" — just look at the news or the internet, plenty of lawless types won't accept it in practice and bash it as a system.
    Even welfare recipients get told to "know their place" behind their backs. Is that really livable?
    40AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:56
    Re: #38
    Last year, suicides among elementary, middle, and high schoolers hit a record high of 538
    42AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:57
    Re: #40
    If child suicide rates rise while the overall suicide rate falls, would you call that "less livable"?
    43AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:57
    Re: #40
    I never said youth suicide in Japan isn't a problem.
    I'm just saying it's bad logic to argue "Japan is worse than other countries because suicide is its youth's #1 cause of death"
    41AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:56
    Re: #38
    That number is rising even though the child population itself has shrunk to less than half what it used to be — that's a real negative
    61AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:06
    Re: #41
    It's rising worldwide too, because of social media
    44AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:58
    Re: #42
    A resource-poor country where kids kill themselves and adults work themselves to death — and that's supposed to be the most livable in the world?
    46AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:59
    Re: #44
    Still far better than kids dying from illness or getting caught up in crime
    47AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:00
    Re: #44
    Officially recognized karoshi (overwork death) cases number only a few hundred a year…
    45AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:59
    Re: #43
    I'm just pushing back on the "world's number one" part.
    Neither safety nor food quality tops any objective ranking
    60AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:05
    Re: #45
    There's no way to make an objective measure for how good food tastes in the first place.
    I get the argument that "wherever you're born and raised just feels like #1 to you," though.
    You still need a baseline level of safety and convenience, mind you
    51AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:01
    Isn't it more like "livable if you're upper class and can do whatever you want"?
    57AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:03
    Re: #51
    More like "unlivable if you're at the bottom and stuck with an inferiority complex."
    But the bottom rung has it rough everywhere, so Japan's at least better for having a social safety net
    65AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:11
    Even during the bubble era, this was a country people called heaven for consumers and hell for the workers supplying it all
    68AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:14
    Re: #65
    Different era, when working around the clock was a status symbol.
    People probably found more fulfillment in work back then than they do now

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    The “happiness index” referenced in the thread likely points to the UN-affiliated World Happiness Report, a measure that factors in not just healthcare and public safety but satisfaction with personal relationships and freedom to make one’s own life choices — which is why Japan, despite its strength in safety, hygiene, and economic scale, often fails to crack the top ranks in a given year. The result shifts depending on whether you measure by objective indicators or subjective satisfaction, and the thread’s disagreements trace straight back to that mismatch in assumptions. The point that suicide makes up a large share of teen deaths also cuts the other way: it reflects the flip side that fewer teens are dying from disease or accidents, so the counterargument that it’s premature to judge a country’s quality from a single ranking hits the mark. At the same time, the rising number of child suicides and the existence of death from overwork sit on an entirely different axis from public safety — and the thread lays bare how verdicts split depending on which group, and which slice of life, the word “livable” is even meant to describe.

    *This article is composed as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Nanademo Jikkyo G) thread “Japanese people say ‘Japan is the world’s most livable country’ — is that actually true?“

  • Total Cigarette Ban: ‘90% Support’ but It Never Happens — 5ch Debates Why

    A thread asking for and against a total cigarette ban took off on 5ch’s “Nanimo Jikkyo G” board. First came a flame war over the reliability of the poll cited at the top — “68 in favor (88.3%)” — with posters trading accusations about dubious methodology and sourcing versus others defending the numbers. The discussion then moved to the real question: if a majority supports a ban, why hasn’t it happened? Posters raised one reason after another for why outright prohibition hasn’t happened — tobacco tax revenue, comparisons with alcohol, the possibility of shifting to e-cigarettes, and the problem of littered cigarette butts.

    1AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:54
    General opinion
    On a total cigarette ban:
    1: In favor — 68 votes (88.3%)
    3AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:00
    If majority vote were all it took, you could ban basically every culture and industry in the world.
    30AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:37
    Re: #3
    Why'd you lie?
    44AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:48
    Re: #42
    That's because it's become a 'society that doesn't' (do it).
    50AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:50
    Re: #44
    That's not what I meant
    From a 'will/won't' standpoint, it's 'won't'
    From a 'can/can't' standpoint, it's 'can't'
    That's the point being made
    Re: #3 was broken from the start
    92AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:16
    Re: #3
    Why did this turn into a flame war
    You're right though
    4AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:02
    Feels like tattoos — a few bad apples make the whole group look bad.
    Though as a non-smoker, I'm totally fine with a ban.
    6AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:03
    Re: #4
    Is that the same reason Japanese people get a bad image abroad?
    8AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:08
    Just saying up front — you could cover the tax loss by raising the alcohol tax.
    10AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:09
    Re: #8
    There's a limit to how much you can raise the alcohol tax
    Because moonshine is relatively easy to make, people can just opt out of buying it
    11AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:09
    Honestly, even with a ban people would just switch to e-cigarettes — the real problem is the massive tax revenue pulled from tobacco.
    In terms of pure health damage, alcohol is like 10x worse for your body than cigarettes, but nobody's calling for alcohol to be banned.
    19AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:19
    Re: #11
    Alcohol has way too many stakeholders
    Also, alcohol tax revenue is actually bigger
    24AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:26
    Re: #11
    Is it really not being called for that much?
    And I'd think just shifting to e-cigarettes would be a big deal too
    25AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:27
    'Anything that bothers me should be banned, banned, banned' — so why does that logic only ever apply to cigarettes?
    26AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:28
    Re: #25
    Well, that's because it's a social harm
    32AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:40
    Fine, smoke if you want, but don't litter the street with your trash.
    Are you trying to advertise that you're antisocial by nature?
    34AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:42
    Re: #32
    Not many people know this, but cars dump exhaust into the air too
    And AC units drain their condensate onto the road too…
    36AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:44
    Re: #34
    We're talking about cigarette butts here, though?
    49AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:50
    If that tax revenue disappears, other taxes will shoot way up, and it's the non-smokers who'll suffer — kind of dumb when you think about it.
    51AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:51
    Re: #49
    Eh, that's fine though
    57AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:52
    Re: #49
    The annoying part is nobody really knows what it's being used for, so it's unclear who actually gets hurt
    80AnonymousOct 5, 2026 10:08
    If people could at least switch over to e-cigarettes, would that cut down on these problems?

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    It’s worth noting that the “88.3% in favor” figure cited at the top of the thread is an unofficial tally from within 5ch itself, not a nationwide public opinion poll. In reality, Japan has strengthened passive-smoking measures through the revised Health Promotion Act (enacted 2020), but no policy to ban the sale of cigarettes outright is currently on the table. One reason for this is the existence of tobacco tax as a stable source of revenue — nationally and locally combined, it reportedly brings in roughly 1 trillion yen a year, and how to replace that revenue became one of the thread’s talking points. Posters also debated, in parallel, why there’s no similar push to ban alcohol despite its health risks, whether a shift to e-cigarettes might ease these problems, and etiquette issues like littered cigarette butts — though no clear conclusion was reached. Since the latter half of the original thread was dominated by a long back-and-forth over the reliability of the poll numbers, this article focuses mainly on the portion of the debate concerning smoking bans and separation of smoking areas.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nanimo Jikkyo G) thread “90% of Japanese People Support Banning Cigarettes! So Why Can’t It Happen?“.

  • Minimum Wage Goes Up, But Living Costs Still Out of Reach: Tokyo Workers Face a Tens-of-Thousands-of-Yen Gap

    A survey released in August by the Japan Federation of Local Government Workers’ Unions found that a 22-year-old living alone in one of 10 urban prefectures, including Tokyo, needs ¥231,722 a month (take-home) if male and ¥239,123 if female to cover living costs. Meanwhile, Tokyo’s minimum wage, converted to a monthly salary, comes to only about ¥225,000 even before tax — and the gap widens by tens of thousands of yen more once compared against take-home pay. On 5ch, the figures sparked a divided discussion, with some worried about talent draining out of rural areas, others debating how a minimum wage hike would affect employment at small and mid-size businesses, and still others arguing over the wage gap between cities and the countryside.

    (excerpt) ◆ “The discussion should center more on actual living costs”

    According to a survey on union members’ living costs released in August by the Japan Federation of Local Government and Municipal Workers’ Unions (Jichiroren), in 10 urban prefectures — including the greater Tokyo area, Osaka, and Aichi — a 22-year-old living alone, equivalent to a first-year university graduate, needs ¥231,722 a month if male and ¥239,123 if female to cover living costs, on a “take-home” basis after tax and social insurance deductions.

    Meanwhile, converting Tokyo’s new minimum wage into a monthly salary (22 working days, 8 hours a day) comes to about ¥225,000 on a “gross” basis, before tax and other deductions. Even on a gross basis, that falls short of the required living costs — and compared against take-home pay, the gap widens to tens of thousands of yen.

    Source: tokyo-np.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:00
    That's exactly why you've got no choice but to move to Tokyo, where the wages are higher and women outnumber men.
    14AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:05
    Re: #3
    Prefectures with a high proportion of young women (20s-30s):
    • Kagoshima Prefecture (#1 in Japan for share of women in their 20s-30s)
    • Nara Prefecture
    • Fukuoka Prefecture
    • Miyazaki Prefecture
    • Hyogo Prefecture
    4AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:01
    Genuine question for anyone who actually knows this stuff: if the minimum wage goes up, will small/mid-size sash (window frame) manufacturers out in the regions lose work? Will they go under?
    15AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:06
    Re: #4
    No idea if the amount of work itself shrinks, but they won't be able to hire people cheaply anymore, so conditions for existing employees are definitely going to get harder, right?
    9AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:04
    The only people actually working minimum-wage jobs are high schoolers with part-time gigs and retirees doing 'silver worker' jobs on top of their pension. Even part-time housewives ("paato") get a raise if they stick around for 6 months. And new college grads get bonuses and company-subsidized housing on top of everything else (lol).
    13AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:04
    Re: #9
    Well, if you're a full-time employee ("seishain") stuck on minimum wage, you should probably just change jobs.
    30AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:12
    No matter how hard a regional branch works, the Tokyo head office just sucks up all the profit in the end anyway.
    37AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:16
    Re: #30
    Are you just ignoring the effort of companies that actually headquarter themselves in the regions?
    39AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:17
    If you raise the minimum wage, all that happens is that vulnerable workers — like the elderly — whose productivity doesn't match that pay level simply lose their jobs.
    222AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:24
    Re: #39
    And that's exactly how they ended up delivering Yamato parcel mail and handing out flyers instead. And it's not just that — a place that used to hire 3 people at ¥1,000/hr could end up hiring only 2 at ¥1,500/hr. Otherwise, the cost just gets passed straight on to prices.
    45AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:20
    Direct-hit earthquakes keep striking one after another, and every time, tens of thousands of Tokyoites trapped in elevators keep dying.

    How much longer can public opinion tolerate this over-concentration in one city?
    They should move the capital to somewhere like Nagoya sooner rather than later.
    48AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:21
    Re: #45
    In reality, the big earthquakes keep happening out in the countryside.
    56AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:23
    Re: #45
    But when is this 'Tokyo direct-hit earthquake' actually going to happen? For all the fuss about it, it's always the regional areas that end up getting hit by disasters.
    46AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:20
    People keep saying stuff like 'rural areas are filling their labor shortage with foreigners! The countryside is full of foreigners!' but from what I've actually seen, you don't really spot many foreigners out in the countryside. There are way more of them in the cities. I mean, foreigners want to earn money in the big city too, right?
    53AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:22
    Re: #46
    Whatever you personally feel, the data backs it up clearly — both rural and urban areas need foreign labor, that's really all there is to it.

    'We don't need bottom-tier Japanese workers!' is basically the mood right now.
    63AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:26
    Re: #46
    Well, obviously. There's no Chinese or Vietnamese worker out there who actually wants to work in the countryside by choice.
    49AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:21
    Instead of raising wages, why not just cut taxes?
    65AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:27
    Re: #49
    Fools earning around minimum wage barely pay any tax to begin with.

    Talking income tax specifically, someone earning ¥15 million a year pays 70 times the tax of someone earning ¥3 million.
    What that means is: every single year, they're paying what it would take a ¥3-million earner 70 years to pay.

    Annual income (multiple) → Income tax (multiple)
    ¥3M (1x) → ¥30K (1x)
    ¥6M (2x) → ¥210K (7x)
    ¥9M (3x) → ¥640K (21x)
    ¥12M (4x) → ¥1.2M (40x)
    ¥15M (5x) → ¥2.16M (72x)
    68AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:28
    I'm in Osaka on a business trip right now, and the real estate agency windows have tons of single-occupancy studio listings posted in the ¥30,000-something range. By Tokyo standards that's shockingly cheap — at that rate, you could earn ¥150,000 and still live comfortably while drinking yourself silly.
    80AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:32
    Re: #68
    You probably don't know about 'kodomobeya' (cramped, tiny rooms nicknamed 'kid's rooms'), but no matter how broke you are, go under ¥44,000 and you're in for a living hell.
    82AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:32
    Re: #68
    That's a sketchy place, lol. If you actually try to rent it, the agent talks you out of it, lol.
    85AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:33
    Re: #68
    The rooms posted in the window are just for show. Say you want that one, and suddenly it's 'already contracted,' they steer you toward something else, show you around, and you end up with a pricier place in the end — that's the classic Osaka real-estate sales trick.
    91AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:37
    Tokyoites are supposed to be well-off, right? So why aren't they having kids?
    95AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:40
    Re: #91
    They're not having kids precisely because they're well-off.
    98AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:41
    Re: #91
    What are you talking about? It's the place with the biggest concentration of poor people in all of Japan.
    128AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:53
    It's actually the opposite. Individual ability gaps are widening, yet the minimum wage keeps rising, so small businesses can't afford to hire. We need to let small businesses pay incompetent workers ¥400/hr for menial jobs.
    130AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:55
    Re: #128
    People too incompetent to pay proper wages should be steered toward becoming employees, not business owners.
    133AnonymousOct 5, 2026 07:56
    Re: #128
    It's actually the other way around — the economy never develops precisely because we keep propping up small, marginal businesses instead of letting them fail.
    208AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:12
    60 yuan a day (about ¥1,350). That's roughly 8-9 US dollars.
    Not per hour.
    That's the pay for an entire day.
    That's what track marshals were being paid at the China GT Shanghai round.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HRqINKoa4AADmDy.jpg
    209AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:12
    By the way, executive pay keeps climbing steadily — the number of companies where executive compensation tops ¥100 million a year just hit an all-time high.

    You're all getting played, lol.
    210AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:14
    Re: #209
    Hmm, you need a source for that?

    https://image-tm.s2mr.jp/i/original/1791159234629.jpeg
    212AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:15
    Re: #210
    Average employee salaries have barely budged, yet executive pay alone has shot up like crazy.

    Back in the '90s, a ¥100-million executive salary was something only a tiny handful of major corporations had.

    Background and key points of this discussion

    Minimum wage levels are set prefecture by prefecture, with local councils deciding based on guidelines from the Central Minimum Wage Council, and there’s a gap of several hundred yen per hour between urban and rural areas. This Jichiroren survey compares living costs on a “take-home” basis against the minimum wage converted to a monthly salary on a “gross” basis, so it isn’t a perfectly direct comparison — but it’s worth noting that the gap only widens further once tax and social insurance are deducted. In the thread, opinions clashed between concern that wage hikes would raise labor costs for small businesses and shrink employment, and the view that without raising low wages, the outflow of talent from rural areas won’t stop. Rapid minimum wage increases have drawn criticism before for being “out of step with conditions in rural areas,” and this discussion follows much the same pattern.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “[Minimum Wage] Even After the Hike, the Gap With Living Costs Remains… Voices Warn of Rural “Low Wages” and Accelerating Talent Outflow“.

  • Mourinho: ‘Players shouldn’t ride bicycles’ — 10 days later, injured Mbappé posts a cycling video

    Ten days after Mourinho declared that “players shouldn’t ride bicycles — it’s a matter of professionalism,” Kylian Mbappé, currently away from the France squad with a left knee injury, set tongues wagging by posting a selfie video of himself cycling to his Instagram Story. Footballers are often contractually barred from cycling due to injury risk, and on 5ch the discussion ranged from “wouldn’t a stationary bike do?” and “road biking is risky even solo” to comparisons with other sports, like F1 drivers being banned from skiing.

    Real Madrid forward Kylian Mbappé has stirred up buzz after sharing a cycling video.

    Mbappé, who withdrew from the France national team due to a left knee injury, has yet to rejoin Real Madrid and is recovering on his own. Amid that, on the 4th, he posted a video to his Instagram Story that drew attention.

    Mbappé shared selfie footage of himself riding a bicycle. While riding, he skillfully used one hand to film his own face, wearing a helmet, along with the bike.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:16
    If his knee's hurt, riding a bike should be fine, no?
    3AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:17
    Well, bikes and motorbikes do carry a higher risk, that's true
    4AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:17
    That's just what his contract requires
    If you don't like it, don't sign the contract
    7AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:20
    Cars kill people all the time too — aren't they dangerous as well?
    64AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:48
    Re: #7
    Guys at this level have plenty of money to just hire a driver
    9AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:20
    It counts as training though
    81AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:56
    Re: #9
    Do it indoors, lol
    12AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:23
    F1 drivers are banned from skiing too
    54AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:42
    Re: #12
    Alonso ('the Chin'): 'That's fine once I'm retired, right?'
    63AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:48
    Re: #12
    Max went skiing in Hokkaido right before the Japanese GP though
    13AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:23
    Real Madrid's contracts ban skiing and bungee jumping too
    Though that's probably true at every club
    16AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:24
    Re: #13
    Man United banned 'bero-chat' too, lol (slang term, exact meaning unclear)
    17AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:24
    Training, rehab, whatever —
    an exercise bike would do just fine
    19AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:26
    Re: #17
    Exactly right
    58AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:44
    Re: #17
    Because the scenery never changes, it's boring
    21AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:27
    But cars are okay somehow?
    77AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:54
    Re: #21
    Because you don't get hurt in a car in a minor accident
    117AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:20
    Re: #77
    Tiger Woods: 'Tell me about it,' lol
    29AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:31
    This is exactly why they get run over by Lee Kang-in and lose the Madrid derby
    Seriously, way too low standards, lol
    46AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:37
    Re: #29
    Misread that as 'ignore' for a second, gave me a scare, lol… Because Kylian and Kang-in ('Big Bro Gan') are tight as childhood besties
    43AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:37
    If that's how you feel, clubs should just formally ban it in player contracts
    If they can't do that, then regardless of the risk, players' lifestyles should be respected
    105AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:10
    Re: #43
    That said, professional footballers are generally barred by contract from cycling due to injury risk.
    48AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:39
    By the way, the most common bike accident injuries are broken arms and head injuries
    Leg injuries aren't that common
    55AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:42
    Re: #48
    If you break your arm or your head, you can't play either way, right?
    50AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:40
    If we're talking about professionalism, Zidane was a smoker, and he still pulled off feats that live on in both the record books and people's memories
    69AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:49
    Re: #50
    Speaking of that, isn't there a legendary story that during PSG's okonomiyaki party on their trip to Japan, everyone else was drinking but Kang-in ('Big Bro Gan') was the only one pretending to drink while secretly having water?
    70AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:50
    In the Netherlands it's bikes >>> cars, right?
    74AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:52
    Re: #70
    That's pretty much true across Europe
    78AnonymousOct 5, 2026 08:55
    Road biking is an absolute no-go
    If you crash, that's basically the end of your career
    lol lol
    107AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:11
    Re: #78
    What about track or BMX?
    97AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:06
    Was Mbappé's video basically 'Yo, you watching, Mourinho?'
    114AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:16
    Re: #97
    He looked like he was having fun
    102AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:09
    > Professional footballers are generally barred by contract from cycling due to injury risk

    Wow, bikes are actually that dangerous?
    I thought it was only fast road bikes that were risky
    108AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:11
    Re: #102
    The moment you crash,
    if you land on your knee, you're done for
    109AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:12
    Re: #102
    If it's done as training in a designated area, I think it's fine
    Riding on public roads might be the dangerous part
    111AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:14
    Is it really that dangerous?
    Guess it's not like a slow ride on the sidewalk
    113AnonymousOct 5, 2026 09:15
    Re: #111
    A bike by itself isn't dangerous
    It's colliding with other traffic (cars, trucks) that causes serious injury

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    In football, it’s not unusual for clubs to contractually ban high-risk leisure activities like skiing, bungee jumping, and cycling. Commenters in the thread pointed out that “Real Madrid’s contracts also ban skiing and bungee jumping” and “F1 drivers are banned from skiing too,” noting this isn’t unique to this case but a practice seen across the sporting world generally. Where opinions split was over just how dangerous cycling itself really is. Some argued a bicycle alone rarely causes a serious accident and that collisions with cars or other vehicles are the main cause of injury, pitting the view that “indoor training like a stationary bike should be the substitute” against the view that “players’ freedom of movement and lifestyle should be respected.” It’s worth noting that neither the news report nor the thread confirms whether Mbappé’s own contract actually bans cycling — that detail remains an inference from general industry practice.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Sports News+) thread “Mourinho: ‘Players shouldn’t ride bicycles. This is a matter of professionalism’ → 10 days later, injured Mbappé posts cycling video.”