Author: Japan Reacts Editorial

  • Older Guy Calls Sweatpants ‘Lame’ — 5ch Erupts Into Generational Debate

    On 5channel’s “Nandemo Jikkyo” (Live Commentary) board, a user posted images of the “sweatpants” fashion currently trending among young people, and another user who called it “lame” sparked a debate over the generational gap in taste. The thread saw a wave of pushback — “sweats have come back into style again and again since the Ice Age Generation and yankee-culture eras,” “young people today wear cheap fast fashion, not brand-name stuff” — with many commenters agreeing less about the fashion itself and more with the point that “trends just repeat across generations.”

    1AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:44
    lol (lit. "grass" — 5ch/2ch slang for laughing)
    3AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:45
    Re: #1

    This is the sweatpants fashion trending with young people right now




    11AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:48
    Re: #3
    Looks like they just rolled out of bed and walked straight outside.
    14AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:49
    Re: #3
    Saw this on the train earlier too — both the guys and the girls, college-age, all wearing it.
    59AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:58
    Re: #3
    The old guy's right, it's lame.
    7AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:47
    Sweats look stylish when young people wear them. When middle-aged men and women wear them, it reads as either 'lazy day off' or 'off-duty gangster.'
    8AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:48
    Sweatpants were already trendy back when the Ice Age Generation (Japan's 'lost generation,' who graduated into the brutal 1990s–2000s job market) were in high school.
    26AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:51
    Re: #8
    That trend came out of hip-hop and the dancer scene, so this is just that era's style having a revival.
    31AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:52
    Re: #8
    I'm 46, and back then it was sagging, low-slung pants (koshi-pan).
    9AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:48
    Jeans got the same treatment back in the day.
    It's the same story in every era.
    10AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:48
    Even this whole sweatpants culture is just a hand-me-down from an older generation 🤣
    12AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:48
    Nothing new here — the kids who've always hung around Don Quijote (the discount chain that's a classic youth hangout) have been wearing sweats with sandals forever.
    18AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:49
    Re: #12
    That makes it even more lame.
    Can't this generation even invent its own trend?
    13AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:49
    There's an old guy in my neighborhood who's gotta be 80, and he dresses exactly like this.
    25AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:51
    Did everyone already forget jogger pants were trendy just a few years back?
    34AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:52
    Re: #25
    Those were proper joggers, though.
    What's trending now is basically loungewear — honestly just pajamas.
    27AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:51
    It's true that kids today are broke.
    Back when us old guys were young, we wore suits and jackets from the 'DC brands' (Japan's premium 1980s designer labels, like Comme des Garçons and Yohji Yamamoto).
    40AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:54
    Re: #27
    Actually it's the opposite — young people aren't poor when you look at wages, and their raises come faster than previous generations got.
    Compared to the old Ice Age Generation now in their 40s and 50s, today's 20-somethings are genuinely earning more at this stage in life.
    29AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:52
    They themselves caught plenty of grief from the out-of-touch elders of their day when they were young…
    In the end they're just losers who can only repeat history.
    36AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:53
    Re: #29
    History repeats itself.

    'Typical Gen Z…'
    'Typical yutori generation…' (Japan's so-called 'relaxed-education' millennials)
    'Typical millennials…'
    'Typical shinjinrui…' ('new breed,' a 1980s label for the youth of that time)
    'Typical dankai junior…' (children of Japan's baby boomers)
    'Typical kids these days…'
    'Typical moga and mobo…' (1920s Japanese flappers and dandies)
    32AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:52
    Sweats have been trendy in yankee (delinquent-style) fashion for a good while now —
    isn't this just that spreading to regular people?
    45AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:55
    Re: #32
    They were trendy as outdoor fashion 30 years ago.
    35AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:52
    The sweats 20-somethings wear around the city easily run 10,000 yen or more.

    That's a completely different thing from the 2,980-yen top-and-bottom set some old guy would buy.
    42AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:54
    Re: #35
    So what?
    Does being expensive make a garbage outfit acceptable?
    55AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:57
    Re: #35
    Most of them are actually wearing cheap clothes, though.
    Uniqlo sweats run under 3,000 yen.
    Kids like this actually think expensive branded sweats are lame.
    People just don't spend much on clothes anymore.
    66AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:00
    Re: #35
    Aside from the tiny minority in luxury brands, most of them are broke — it's not even Uniqlo, it's dirt-cheap overseas fast fashion like SHEIN.
    41AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:54
    When jeans first got trendy with young people back in the day, people trashed them too — 'workers' clothes! clothes for the bottom rung!'
    Nobody says a word about them now, though.
    46AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:55
    Re: #41
    Fashion trends just change with the times, that's all it is.
    51AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:56
    Back in the day, young people only hung around other young people, so even if someone thought you looked lame, they rarely said it to your face.
    Now, with everyone thrown together on the internet and social media, getting called out directly is honestly kind of sad.
    58AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:58
    Re: #51
    And the biggest victim of that is middle-aged guys, honestly.
    57AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:58
    Where did this fashion even come from?
    The Korean wave?
    87AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:06
    Re: #57
    Yeah, it's from dancers' practice wear.
    63AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:59
    More than anything, pairing it with a skin-tight T-shirt is seriously lame.
    94AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:08
    Sweats have been trendy since way back in this era, you know.

    99AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:10
    Re: #94
    The elastic cuff at the ankle is so lame.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    Sweatpants and jogger-style pants first spread to Japan in the 1990s through the hip-hop and outdoor-fashion booms, so this isn’t really a brand-new trend — it’s a textbook case of an old trend coming back in a new shape. The spending power behind the youth market isn’t luxury brands but low-price fast fashion like GU, Uniqlo, and SHEIN, which lines up with the thread’s point that these aren’t expensive branded items. Also, before social media, communities were split by generation, so opinions about someone’s clothing rarely reached them directly — but now that timelines mix every generation together, differences in values surface as direct clashes much more easily. It’s worth noting that this generational tug-of-war over ‘lame vs. stylish’ isn’t unique to this case — the same pattern played out before, with jeans and with sagging pants.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo) thread “[Bad News] Man Who Called ‘Sweatpants’ Fashion Lame Gets Mob-Dunked by Gen Z.”

  • Real Wages Rise for 8th Straight Month — 5ch Reacts: “Plastic Wrap Is Now ¥498”

    According to the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare’s preliminary August Monthly Labour Survey released on the 7th, real wages—adjusted for price changes—rose 1.5% year-on-year, marking the 8th consecutive month of gains. Total cash earnings, the nominal wage figure, also rose 3.8% to ¥311,364, meaning growth has topped 3% for 7 straight months—the first such streak since March 1992, or 34 years and 5 months ago. On 5ch, this strong data sparked a clash between those saying “price hikes hurt more than this shows, I don’t feel it” and those arguing “by the numbers, wage growth is outpacing inflation,” with the discussion citing price hikes on plastic wrap and convenience-store rice balls as examples before expanding into a debate over what the real-wage indicator actually means.

    According to the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare’s preliminary August Monthly Labour Survey (covering businesses with 5 or more employees) released on the 7th, real wages—excluding the effect of price changes—rose 1.5% year-on-year.

    This marks the 8th straight month of gains. Thanks to the spread of wage hikes and other factors, nominal wage growth outpaced price growth.

    Total cash earnings per employee, the figure representing nominal wages, rose 3.8% to ¥311,364. This is the first time growth has exceeded 3% for 7 consecutive months since March 1992—34 years and 5 months ago.

    Source: nikkei.com / Original article here

    14AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:28
    Then why is everyone struggling with rising prices?
    16AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:29
    Re: #14
    They're on pension, welfare, or mooching off their parents, so they're not working — wage growth doesn't apply to them.
    20AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:31
    Re: #14 You know how people with money still say they have no money?
    Same thing here. They're just putting on the "I'm struggling" act for now, lol
    22AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:32
    But then why isn't consumption increasing?
    24AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:32
    Re: #22
    Can't help it — the generations that actually want to buy things keep shrinking because of the aging population.
    36AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:38
    This whole "excluding the effect of price changes" thing…
    does that even mean anything? lol
    40AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:40
    Re: #36
    "Excluding" doesn't mean "not factoring it in" — it means "factoring it in and subtracting it," so that's the opposite of what you're thinking.
    39AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:40
    Personal financial assets are at an all-time high.
    The gap is definitely widening.
    The haves get to keep enjoying this boom going forward, while the have-nots just keep getting squeezed.
    50AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:45
    Re: #39
    Basically, it means people who can invest are the ones making money.
    Makes working an actual job feel pointless.
    80AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:01
    Re: #39
    Probably just like the bubble era —
    people who are earning keep swimming in more and more cash, while people without money just keep getting left behind by inflation.
    54AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:46
    Does the nominal wage figure even mean anything as an indicator?
    56AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:48
    Re: #54
    If you don't calculate nominal wage growth, you can't calculate real wage growth either —
    real wage growth is just nominal wage growth minus price growth.
    58AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:48
    Re: #54
    The rest of the world compares nominal figures.
    If you're saying it's meaningless, then that means never comparing Japan to other countries again.
    59AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:49
    Prices are now about 1.5 times what they used to be, so if you used to spend ¥3 million a year, it now costs ¥4.5 million.
    Even if your pay went up by ¥1.5 million, it just gets swallowed by living costs.
    61AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:51
    Re: #59
    Not sure what point you're calling "before," but compared to 2020, prices are up just under 12%.
    60AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:50
    This is probably all riding on the gasoline and electricity subsidies though.
    66AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:52
    Re: #60
    According to a private think tank's estimate, those subsidies are only suppressing inflation by about 0.5% at most, so even without the subsidies, the 8-month streak of gains apparently wouldn't change.
    67AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:52
    Re: #60
    If we didn't need them in the first place, we wouldn't need the subsidies either —
    real wages would actually be growing more than they are now.
    65AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:52
    Some people are in brackets where taxes rise progressively as nominal wages rise, so comparing take-home pay to price increases, doesn't it roughly even out?
    70AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:54
    Re: #65
    Japan's income tax progression works on an excess-bracket basis — only the portion above a certain line gets taxed at the higher rate, so it doesn't actually change that drastically.
    68AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:53
    Meanwhile, you guys are out here calling ¥2,000 for 5kg of new-crop rice "expensive, expensive."
    Is this board seriously packed with elites all pulling in over ¥10 million a year? lol
    71AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:54
    Re: #68
    Users of this board are 20% genuinely well-off, 30% at the bottom, and 20% who just feel superior in their own heads.
    76AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:57
    Re: #74
    Places like that will just go under from the labor-shortage bankruptcies that are trendy right now, so it's not an issue.
    82AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:01
    Re: #76
    Honestly, worst case I can just bail, so whatever.
    77AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:58
    Price indices don't factor in shrinkflation, you know.
    They say food prices are up 1.2x or 1.3x, but with lower quality and smaller portions, it's effectively doubled.
    85AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:01
    Re: #77
    The CPI actually does account for shrinkflation normally.
    https://www.stat.go.jp/info/today/127.htm
    84AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:01
    Plastic wrap that cost about ¥258 not long ago is now ¥498, the plastic bags at the supermarket went from ¥3 to ¥7, food prices have shot up across the board, and convenience store rice balls are over ¥200 now — I can't believe it's only up 12%.
    87AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:02
    Re: #84
    The stuff that isn't rising isn't rising by much at all —
    those items are just the ones dragging the average down.
    93AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:06
    "Real wages aren't rising! This country is finished!"
    ↓
    "Real wages don't even mean anything!!"
    94AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:06
    Did the Engel coefficient (the share of household spending that goes to food) go down…?
    98AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:09
    Re: #94
    Can't say for sure across the board, but that's probably the indicator closest to how life actually feels.
    97AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:08
    Meanwhile, people holding "Orukan" (the popular all-world index fund) or the S&P haven't seen any gains in months.
    Huge win for the cash-is-king crowd.
    100AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:09
    Re: #97
    The Nikkei's exploding.
    Besides, nobody does Orukan these days anyway —
    it's all Nikkei now.
    99AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:09
    Why does it move in months other than July?
    Once the "bea" (the annual base pay hike) and regular raises are reflected, shouldn't there be no more wage increases after that?
    103AnonymousOct 7, 2026 10:10
    Re: #99
    The month raises happen depends on the company, so statistically there's no choice but to track it every month.
    Mine does raises twice a year, in April and October.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Real wages are calculated by subtracting consumer price growth from nominal wage (total cash earnings) growth. Because it’s an average across all households, it doesn’t necessarily match how any individual actually experiences their finances. Many commenters in the thread said “the numbers are improving but life still feels hard” — this reflects both the fact that price increases vary widely by item, and the widening gap between those who hold assets and those who don’t. Changes in demand structure driven by an aging population came up as a factor behind sluggish personal consumption, but the “gap between nominal pay and take-home pay” caused by rising taxes and social insurance premiums — something real wages alone don’t capture — wasn’t explored in much depth within the thread.

    *This article is composed of excerpts and a summary from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyō G) thread “[Good News] Real Wages Rise for 8 Straight Months. Wage Hikes Keep Outpacing Inflation 😇.”

  • Lettuce Prices Up 50%, Cabbage Up 40% as Long Rains Cut Sunlight — 5ch Reacts: ‘400 Yen Is Just Too Much’

    The Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries announced that, as of late September, lettuce prices were up 50% and cabbage prices up 40% compared to the seasonal average. The main cause cited is a temperature drop and lack of sunlight from prolonged rain. On 5ch threads, posters shared concrete examples of the price hikes, such as ‘150-yen red leaf lettuce is now 400 yen’ and ‘a head of cabbage went from 158 yen to 380 yen.’ At the same time, some pointed out that while rice price spikes tend to draw heavy criticism of JA (the agricultural co-op) and distributors, vegetable price spikes rarely provoke the same backlash — sparking a discussion about the different ways these prices are determined.

    Published 10/6 (Tue) 19:31

    FNN Prime Online (Fuji TV Network)

    Long rains are hitting leafy vegetables.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    27AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:47
    A single cucumber for 198 yen freaked me out the most
    73AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:00
    Re: #27
    Cheap! Big sale!! Cucumbers 78 yen each
    That's what the sign at the supermarket said, but nobody was buying them
    Even below market price, cucumbers just aren't worth it — you get the same potassium, vitamin K/C, and fiber from other vegetables
    30AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:48
    Lettuce went from 100 yen to 200, then 300, then 400 yen.
    That's way too expensive no matter how you look at it.
    42AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:50
    Re: #30
    If anything, it was too cheap until now
    In an era when plenty of people drop 500,000-1,000,000 yen into their 'numa' (deep hobby/fandom obsessions), 100-yen lettuce was never going to last
    130AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:15
    Re: #30
    Red leaf lettuce that used to be 150 yen, 200 at most, is now 400 yen lately
    43AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:51
    Pea shoots are basically grown like a hydroponic/artificial crop, so they're always around 100 yen
    If other vegetables get pricey, I just pick these instead
    50AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:52
    Re: #43
    If lettuce is going for 500 yen, you'd pick the 100-yen pea shoots too — pour some dressing on them and they're perfectly edible
    96AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:06
    Re: #43
    One head of cabbage gets you 5 uses, one bag of pea shoots gets you 1 use
    One cabbage = five bags of pea shoots
    45AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:52
    For stir-fries and tanmen (vegetable ramen), guess we just have to bulk it up with more bean sprouts lol
    85AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:03
    Re: #45
    I never order tanmen anyway
    49AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:52
    Once a head goes over 200 yen, you start thinking twice
    57AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:56
    Re: #49
    Where I live, half a head was 200 yen
    Prices have been climbing visibly this past week
    54AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:53
    Just wait, napa cabbage's turn is coming lol
    62AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:57
    Re: #54
    About 25 years ago, during a bad-weather winter, napa cabbage went for over 1,000 yen a head
    A quarter-cut piece was around 300 yen
    71AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:59
    Re: #62
    I remember 1,000-yen lettuce making the news about 25 years ago too
    69AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:59
    Every single year it's the same — too hot and this crop fails, too cold and that crop fails. Farming's hopeless at this point
    78AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:01
    Re: #69
    Open-field farmers are basically gamblers betting against the weather
    It's not an honest, stable trade
    70AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:59
    Broccoli got added to the 'designated vegetables' list (a government price-stabilization category), so shouldn't it be cheaper and more stable by now?
    Thought 'under 200 yen!' but then the head turns out tiny
    81AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:02
    Re: #70

    Even among designated vegetables, some crops like potatoes still get jacked up in price

    At the end of the day, farmers go soft without imports creating real price competition
    77AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:01
    A whole cabbage for 500 yen freaked me out
    Can't even make okonomiyaki anymore
    175AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:34
    Re: #77
    Substitute with bean sprouts
    83AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:02
    Re: #73
    It's not about nutrition, it's just a food that's barely used in cooking anymore
    People these days probably don't even keep a nukadoko (rice-bran pickling bed)
    195AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:43
    Re: #83
    Just make quick pickles (asazuke), that works fine
    84AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:03
    This genuinely sucks
    I used to eat lettuce or cabbage every morning, but it's too expensive to buy now
    Mizuna's expensive too — the easy, cheap vegetables are disappearing
    98AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:06
    Re: #84
    I don't get why that's a problem
    There's plenty of cheap Chinese produce out there
    110AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:08
    Re: #84
    Stuff like pea shoots, you can harvest them multiple times
    114AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:10
    Re: #84
    If you're broke but still want salad, pea shoots are the move right now
    88AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:05
    Still, that's only up 50% or so
    How does rice end up tripling to 6,000 yen for 5kg?
    94AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:06
    Re: #88
    Where I am it's more than doubled
    Cabbage that used to be 158 yen a head is now 380
    100AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:07
    On the flip side, isn't there any crop that actually thrives with long rains?
    116AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:10
    Re: #100
    Probably not… depends on the soil conditions, but root rot sets in
    129AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:15
    Re: #100
    Watercress?
    It grows wild like crazy in some river and people just toss it out, right?
    151AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:23
    Rice prices spike → 'Destroy JA (Japan Agricultural Co-op), destroy the farmers'

    Vegetable prices spike → 'Ugh, this is rough~' 'Wish it'd get cheaper'

    What is this lol. Do the usual chorus of 'destroy JA!' 'cut out the middlemen!' like always
    159AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:29
    Re: #151
    Rice prices are set by 'gaisankin' (the provisional advance payment farmers get from JA), but vegetable prices are set by market auction
    166AnonymousOct 7, 2026 09:30
    Re: #159
    Saying 'rice prices are decided by gaisankin' — you might want to go check what gaisankin actually means first lol

    Background and Key Points of Debate

    Leafy vegetable prices are highly sensitive to weather, and there have been past cases of price spikes caused by long rains and lack of sunlight. One thread comment even noted that ‘1,000-yen lettuce made the news about 25 years ago too,’ pointing to a similar weather-driven cause this time around. Where opinions diverged was over the fact that while rice price spikes triggered an outpouring of criticism like ‘destroy JA’ and ‘cut out the middlemen,’ vegetable price spikes drew almost none of that same backlash. This comes down to a structural difference that’s easy to conflate: rice prices are set through an institutional mechanism called ‘gaisankin’ (a provisional advance payment), whereas vegetable prices are determined daily through market auctions. It’s also easy to overlook that Chinese-imported vegetable prices rose at the same time, meaning it isn’t only domestic produce that got more expensive.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Flash+) thread “Lettuce Up 50%, Cabbage Up 40%: Leafy Vegetables Spike in Late September Due to Temperature Drop and Lack of Sunlight from Long Rains — Ministry of Agriculture.”

  • Called police on a “prefectural employee” photographing his house, got a stern warning for obstructing official duties — 5ch asks: “Was there an official seal?”

    Early one morning, OP noticed someone photographing their house and called out to them. The person identified himself as “a prefectural employee” and showed a name tag. Without asking for further details, OP called the police — and was told by the officer, “This could’ve counted as obstruction of official duties,” before being let off with just a stern warning. It seems the visit was part of an investigation into a house built somewhere houses aren’t supposed to be built, but OP never found out exactly how it could have amounted to obstruction. The post sparked discussion on 5ch mainly around two questions: whether simply calling the police can legally count as obstruction of official duties, and whether the presence of an official seal on a name tag is really a reliable way to verify someone’s identity.

    1AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:38
    Just happened to me.
    There was a sketchy-looking dorky guy (lit. "cheese-gyudon guy," 5ch slang for a nerdy, plain-looking young man) taking photos of my house.
    When I called out to him, he said "I'm a prefectural employee" and showed me his name tag.
    3AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:39
    Did you ask him why he was taking photos?
    7AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:42
    Re: #3
    Apparently he came to investigate because there's a house built somewhere houses aren't supposed to be built — but what the heck does that even mean?
    5AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:42
    You should've asked why it had to be done this early in the morning.
    8AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:43
    Re: #5
    I didn't ask that much.
    17AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:47
    ???
    What exactly made it count as obstruction of official duties?
    19AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:49
    Re: #17
    No idea.
    If I'd been satisfied with the explanation, I wouldn't have bothered making a thread to complain about it.
    18AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:48
    I'm a government worker myself, I've been on the receiving end of this kind of scolding before.
    Sorry about that.
    20AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:49
    Re: #18
    You guys are the ones in the wrong here.
    Seriously, reflect on that.
    26AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:52
    Re: #20
    You're the one who should be reflecting — you're the one stuck with all the prejudice.
    35AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:56
    Re: #20
    Morning traffic surveys can only be done in the morning.
    Sorry about that.
    22AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:50
    Re: #19
    It's not that you don't know — the police told you that themselves, right?
    It shouldn't count as obstruction unless OP actually did something to interfere.
    27AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:52
    Re: #22
    They basically told me, "This could've counted as obstruction of official duties. We'll let you off with a stern warning this time, but be careful next time." But I never asked exactly what part would've counted as obstruction.
    28AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:52
    Calling the police over something like this seems a bit much, don't you think?
    30AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:53
    Re: #28
    So you wouldn't call the police even if there was a burglar? Woooow! So cooool!
    33AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:55
    Re: #27
    Just calling the police and holding up a prefectural employee's work for a bit wouldn't count as obstruction of official duties.
    He probably did something else once the police showed up.
    38AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:00
    Re: #33
    Guys like this usually leave out the inconvenient part.
    42AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:06
    Why would calling the police even amount to obstruction of official duties?

    • The target has to be a "public official"
    • They have to be "in the course of performing their duties"
    • There has to be an act of "assault or intimidation"

    Did he actually commit assault or intimidation?
    45AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:09
    Re: #42
    He showed his name tag and OP still called the police anyway, so it's only fair.
    50AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:12
    Re: #45
    These days there are even scammers who flash fake police badges, so just being suspicious and calling the police shouldn't count as obstructing official duties.
    I bet there's something else he's leaving out.
    58AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:18
    Re: #45
    Just calling the police wouldn't be enough to cause that.

    Even the police themselves, when they go door-to-door for some investigation, have exchanges like "I can't tell if you're the real deal, I'll just check to be safe" — "Sure, go right ahead, great that you're security-conscious," so it's basically like that.
    54AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:17
    Re: #52
    If OP genuinely, sincerely believed the guy was suspicious, I wonder how that plays into the relationship between a citizen's arrest and obstruction of official duties.
    Seems like it would lack the criminal intent needed for obstruction.
    56AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:18
    Re: #54
    Well, you could still get arrested regardless.
    That kind of interpretation is something you'd argue out in court anyway.

    Re: #52
    Sorry, that was a weird reply.
    55AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:18
    Re: #53
    Real name tags have an official seal on them.
    There's no way just anyone could make one.
    Maybe pick up some common sense before worrying about studying.
    61AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:20
    Re: #55
    Normal people don't know that and have no way to tell the difference 😅
    66AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:22
    Re: #55
    My city's doesn't have one.
    And it only has the surname on it — just the city name, not even the department.
    That's been the case since last year as a measure against customer harassment.
    68AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:23
    Re: #55
    So my city office was the odd one out for not stamping an official seal on the name tag?
    For the record, I do carry a separate employee ID too.
    62AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:21
    Re: #55
    You mean the ID card, not the name tag?
    67AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:23
    Re: #62
    The name tag gets the official seal stamped on it too.
    Losing it is a normal "write up a formal incident report" offense.
    69AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:24
    Re: #67
    I'm a city employee too, and mine isn't stamped.
    63AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:22
    Re: #58
    Even if an officer shows up and checks with the police, that's just a records lookup — it's not like the police would actually come out for that.
    84AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:35
    Re: #63
    The police are "in-house," so it's just handled over the phone — whether they physically show up or not doesn't make much of a difference.
    64AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:22
    Re: #61
    Normal people do know an official seal exists.
    You're just not normal.
    83AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:34
    Re: #64
    I've never once been in a situation where I had to check a public official's name tag. Did you do something wrong to end up in one?
    70AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:24
    Re: #68
    If there's a separate employee ID, the seal would be stamped on that instead, right?
    74AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:26
    Re: #70
    What about national government employees whose ID is their My Number card?
    Every administrative-track national civil servant uses a My Number card.
    75AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:27
    Lots of self-proclaimed government workers in this thread.
    Work starts at 8:30 and yet you've got plenty of time to spare, huh.
    78AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:29
    Re: #75
    Depends on the department, but the easy-going ones really are easy-going.
    No morning meeting for me today either.
    93AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:41
    An official seal on the name tag? Mine doesn't have one.
    94AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:43
    Re: #93
    Get back to work, government worker.
    95AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:44
    Re: #94
    My hours are 9:00 to 17:45.

    Background and key points of this discussion

    The crime of obstructing the performance of official duties (Article 95 of the Penal Code) is established when “assault or intimidation” is used against a public official in the course of their duties — simply calling the police to request identity verification would not normally meet that bar. Several commenters in the thread pointed this out, suggesting that the officer’s warning to OP to “be careful next time” may imply OP did something further even after the employee showed his name tag. Meanwhile, whether an official ID carries an official seal varies by municipality and by the type of credential (name tag vs. employee ID), and the thread’s own anecdotes were split between “mine has one” and “mine doesn’t.” This isn’t a nationwide standard — some municipalities have simplified their name tags as a measure against customer harassment — so judging the reliability of an identity check based solely on whether an official seal is present would be premature.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt/summary from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “I got a stern warning for obstruction of official duties.”

  • New ‘Gears of War: E-Day’ Footage Drops — Graphics Wow Fans, but Gameplay Splits Opinion

    New gameplay footage for “Gears of War: E-Day” has dropped, sparking a flood of reactions on 5ch’s Hardware & Industry board (known as “Geha”). Screenshots running on RTX 4060 and RTX 4090 cards drew plenty of “the graphics are insane” comments, while the classic pick-up-and-swap weapon system drew complaints of feeling “outdated.” Many posters also shared hands-on impressions covering things like the 4-player co-op lobby setup and getting used to the controls, splitting the thread between praise for the visuals and gripes about the gameplay.

    RTX 4060, Full HD, everything maxed out (ray tracing ON)

    FSR 2X

    Source: pbs.twimg.com / Original post here

    14AnonymousOct 7, 2026 01:20
    Dom, come hold my Lancer for a sec
    17AnonymousOct 7, 2026 01:20
    Re: #14
    It's just a Snub pistol lmaooo well I'm out then lmaooo
    16AnonymousOct 7, 2026 01:20
    Oh, the campaign uses a lobby system like Gears 5 did, so hurry up and get in here!
    23AnonymousOct 7, 2026 01:32
    Re: #16
    I was surprised it's 4-player co-op.
    If you don't fiddle with the lobby settings, random players will join without you even noticing
    19AnonymousOct 7, 2026 01:21
    Can't you just set run and cover back to the same button? Having them split up feels weird to get used to
    21AnonymousOct 7, 2026 01:27
    Re: #19
    I'm not really motivated to grind PvE this time, so I'm just leaving the controls on default
    30AnonymousOct 7, 2026 01:45
    Whoa, there's actually a progression system this time
    This is exactly what I wanted
    31AnonymousOct 7, 2026 01:46
    Re: #30
    No there isn't, lol
    35AnonymousOct 7, 2026 01:59
    Watched some Gears gameplay, but what's with that giant HUD popup dead center of the screen when you swap gear?
    Looks super distracting
    46AnonymousOct 7, 2026 03:36
    Re: #35
    On controller it's been like that since the very first game, so I think it's just a matter of getting used to it
    Never found it distracting myself
    On keyboard and mouse it shows up on the left side instead
    40AnonymousOct 7, 2026 02:15
    GUH!! (the classic 5ch reaction meme for buff dudes being bros)
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HT9bArCa8AAIrmY.jpg:orig
    48AnonymousOct 7, 2026 04:08
    So it's another old-school game where you pick up random weapons you have no attachment to and just cycle through them?
    Without skill leveling or upgrades it just feels too dated for me, can't do it
    66AnonymousOct 7, 2026 06:27
    Re: #48
    So you're saying a 'Xanadu'-style system (a classic 1985 RPG known for its weapon durability/leveling mechanics) is way too outdated these days, huh
    77AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:24
    Re: #48
    Sounds like you'd be the Splatoon type
    50AnonymousOct 7, 2026 04:16
    4090, 4K, pretty much maxed-out ('ridiculous') settings

    51AnonymousOct 7, 2026 04:27
    Lol, even the PS fanboys ('roaches') and Xbox fanboys ('gropers' — derisive 5ch console-war nicknames) are fleeing to PC now (´・ω・`)
    55AnonymousOct 7, 2026 05:03
    Re: #51
    What is this guy even saying lol
    It's selling like crazy on both Game Pass and the MS Store lol
    53AnonymousOct 7, 2026 04:36
    What is this
    It gives you awful motion sickness, what a crap game
    57AnonymousOct 7, 2026 05:31
    Re: #53
    I don't get motion sick
    The only thing that's broken is your inner ear, man 😨
    63AnonymousOct 7, 2026 05:56
    Re: #53
    I played all day both Saturday and Sunday last week and didn't get sick once
    Is this your first shooter? Try taking some motion sickness pills while you get used to it
    54AnonymousOct 7, 2026 04:36
    Other than 'the graphics are amazing' there's not a single real impression here

    Is this gonna be another all-looks-no-substance game like Hellblade?
    69AnonymousOct 7, 2026 06:54
    Re: #54
    If you'd played even one previous Gears game there's no way you'd put it in the same breath as Hellblade
    I actually played Hellblade all the way through — have you?
    60AnonymousOct 7, 2026 05:46
    Successfully escaped the Xbox ('the box')
    Guess that garbage box really was meant to be thrown out after all
    61AnonymousOct 7, 2026 05:49
    Re: #60
    It's not just a Steam thing, that's still a real barrier lol
    64AnonymousOct 7, 2026 06:12
    It's not losing though
    72AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:06
    Um… what are people who can't afford a high-end PC supposed to do…
    73AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:14
    Re: #72
    Just buy an Xbox — you probably don't even own a current-gen console anyway
    76AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:20
    The fine detail on man-made objects is so crisp. Are they using some new tech or something?
    81AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:26
    Re: #76
    The console version comes with ray tracing too, no exceptions
    86AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:32
    Sounds like it's causing an uproar back home over being overly 'PC' — does the Japanese version tone any of that down?
    94AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:39
    Re: #86
    It's about the characters themselves, so there's no 'the Japanese version is different' here
    88AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:34
    Where's this supposedly 'PC' scene even at? You're getting played
    93AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:38
    Someone's losing it this early in the morning
    It's coming out on PS too, so just get along
    95AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:39
    If all you want is to look at pretty graphics, just watch someone else's stream
    No need to go play it yourself
    Though honestly, no Japanese viewer is gonna care about watching a stream of this Western game anyway lol
    98AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:41
    Gears is a hardcore 'PC' game through and through
    Amazing — a disabled, asthmatic lesbian heroine and a Pride flag
    105AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:45
    Re: #98
    Lol, clearly never played the series (classic 'air-play' poser talk)

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    This title is the latest entry in a major Western game series, and reports say there was controversy overseas about character representation even at announcement — which is why the thread saw jabs calling it a “woke game.” However, details like the asthma caused by Rust Lung disease have been part of the series’ established lore since the second game, not a newly added element. That’s exactly why posts criticizing the game without knowing this background got called out as “clearly never played it” — much of the controversy boils down to how familiar people actually are with the series. Likewise, the “outdated” criticism of the pick-up-and-reuse weapon system reflects a design philosophy the series has stuck with from the start; the gap in opinion comes from comparing it to newer titles built around progression and upgrade systems. In the end, the thread’s reactions split mainly along two lines: praise for the graphics, and differing tastes over old-school versus modern gameplay systems.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware & Industry / “Geha”) thread “[Gears E-Day Finally Revealed] The graphics are god-tier! Dom’s so handsome I lost it lolololololol [Japanese Dub].”

  • 250,000 Join French High School Protests, 488 Detained — 5ch: ‘I’d Protest Too, If It Got Me a College Recommendation’

    On October 6, large-scale protests involving more than 250,000 people took place across France in solidarity with high school students blockading their schools to demand more teachers and improved school buildings, with university students and major labor unions joining in. In central Paris, 56,000 people marched, and clashes broke out when some participants threw stones and smoke bombs at police, who responded with tear gas; 488 people were detained nationwide. According to the Ministry of National Education, the impact was widespread, with 891 schools — about a quarter of the roughly 3,700 schools nationwide — canceling classes. On 5ch, reactions were split between those praising the high schoolers for speaking up politically and those linking the school overcrowding to immigration policy.

    [Paris, Kyodo] On the 6th, large-scale protests were held across France in solidarity with high school students blockading their schools to demand more teachers and improved school facilities. University students and major labor unions also took part, with more than 250,000 participants according to the Interior Ministry. In central Paris, 56,000 people marched, and clashes broke out when some threw stones, street trash cans, and smoke bombs at police, who fired tear gas in response. Police detained a total of 488 people nationwide.

    According to the Ministry of National Education, a total of 891 high schools — about a quarter of the roughly 3,700 nationwide — canceled at least some classes on the 6th due to the blockades and other disruptions.

    National Education Minister Geffray told local media that “protests by high schoolers are healthy for democracy” and said the government “is responding to their demands,” but the student organizations said “there has been no political response whatsoever to high schoolers’ anger” and signaled they plan to keep the protest movement going.

    Source: 47news.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:22
    Nice that young people in France have political awareness.
    I wonder how many Japanese kids are even thinking about politics by high school.
    8AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:24
    Re: #4
    There's definitely some adult pulling the strings behind the scenes.
    129AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:46
    Re: #4
    Japanese high schooler: 'Will protesting get me a college recommendation? If it does, sure, I'll do it.'
    27AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:30
    What exactly are they angry about?
    43AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:34
    Re: #27
    Officially they're demanding 'improvements to the education environment.'
    But people are piling other political messages onto it and setting fires, so it's basically chaos now.
    53AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:35
    Re: #27
    Apparently the government let immigrants in without managing the numbers, so schools couldn't keep up and there aren't enough seats — the demand is basically 'do something about it.'
    52AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:35
    Apparently the French high schoolers' protest is about demanding improvements to the education environment — teacher shortages, overcrowded classes, aging buildings, poor facilities. That's why parents and teachers are joining the protests too.
    62AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:37
    Re: #52
    That's a surprisingly mature complaint for high schoolers.
    82AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:40
    Re: #62
    Even Japanese parents living in France back them up — apparently the schools really are falling apart and in bad shape.
    They just want people to separate 'the schools are awful' from 'the rioting,' though.
    108AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:44
    Re: #82
    But fixing that absolutely requires a budget.
    Whether it's a new tax or reshuffling existing tax revenue, someone's going to end up footing the bill and get angry about it.
    112AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:44
    Re: #82
    I mean, if it were serious students with serious complaints, they wouldn't be rioting. If it were slacker students with slacker complaints, they'd be griping about boring classes or too much homework instead.
    71AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:38
    A high schooler lost a hand at the protest?
    What, were they messing with explosives that went off?
    80AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:40
    Re: #71
    'High schooler loses hand to police grenade at school-blockade protest in northern France'

    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/c2b8d52dcd47c7bcf5b99fb1c706f7a5a85b33e2
    96AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:42
    Re: #71
    There was apparently an incident where a grenade picked up during the protest exploded and caused serious injury — which is a messed-up way for it to happen — so that's probably what they mean.
    92AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:42
    Better than apathetic Japanese people who never do anything.
    You'd think people would've figured out by now that if you don't push back like this, you just get exploited — but Japanese people just never take action.
    And they're suckers who feel good about themselves whenever someone flatters them for having 'good civic manners.'
    116AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:44
    Re: #92
    So are you doing anything about it yourself?
    118AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:45
    Re: #92
    Social insurance premiums alone (pension, healthcare, long-term care) eat up 30% of wages. That kind of intergenerational exploitation has robbed workers and young people of the means to marry, raise kids, and pay for education, which is why the birthrate collapsed. Young people in China and South Korea leave the country without hesitation — Japanese youth should be able to do the same.
    143AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:48
    Re: #8
    Not France, but I've talked with foreign high schoolers before, and they were probably more switched-on than you.
    They discussed politics like it was totally normal.

    Meanwhile I only ever followed the news for politician scandals, and they were genuinely unimpressed with me for it.
    185AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:52
    Re: #143
    High schoolers' political views are really just indoctrination from the adults around them — things like 'say this and you'll get praised' or 'this will make people happy.' That's the same in every country. Actually forming your own ideology takes time.
    193AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:54
    Re: #185
    Exactly! I felt that hard back when I was a student.
    204AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:55
    Re: #185
    These days social media's influence is probably huge too.
    159AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:50
    A French school building


    A Japanese school building
    166AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:51
    Re: #159
    You're not allowed to install air conditioning, right? (lol)
    191AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:53
    Re: #159
    French school buildings are old and have no insulation. Even Japan's old school buildings are better than that.
    198AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:54
    Re: #159
    I guess shoddy BEA buildings are just a national trait too, huh?
    223AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:57
    This hasn't made Japanese domestic news, but why is France in such an uproar?

    Immigration, right. Figured. (´・ω・`)
    262AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:02
    Re: #223
    High youth unemployment is just the default there, so bored young people rioting is the default too.
    Japanese youth, where companies hire new grads no matter what, are probably too busy for that.
    235AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:59
    Here it comes — fantastic!
    Keep the protests coming.
    Japan needs to riot and make demands too.
    251AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:00
    Re: #235
    Japan already learned that rioting changes nothing, so it's hopeless now.
    Even the garbage media (note: "マスゴミ," a derisive slang blend of "mass media" and "garbage") hyped it up at first, but did a total about-face once the New Left movement rose up.
    252AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:00
    Re: #235
    'Is that even worth the effort?' (note: riffing on "コスパ," Japanese shorthand for cost-performance/payoff-for-effort)
    261AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:01
    Japan just doesn't have this kind of thing.
    It's a country where civil revolutions don't happen.
    266AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:02
    Re: #261
    I mean, there were peasant uprisings (note: "百姓一揆," farmer revolts from Japan's feudal era).
    269AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:03
    Re: #261
    The February 26 Incident (note: a 1936 Japanese military uprising) was one of the far-left riots, though the soldiers involved were just rioting without really understanding what was going on.
    277AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:04
    Re: #261
    That's because Japan has no history of tyrannical rule.
    All thanks to the Emperor.

    Background and Key Points

    Teacher shortages and aging school buildings have long been flagged as problems in France, and what stands out this time is that university students and labor unions joined a protest movement led primarily by high schoolers. Some in the thread floated the view that “classrooms are short because of immigration,” but it’s worth noting that the original 47news article makes no such claim itself — that’s purely a commenter’s speculation. Also, while the body of the original article puts the number detained at “488,” headlines elsewhere reporting “490” likely reflect a discrepancy from early breaking-news tallies. The thread split between voices praising the high schoolers’ political engagement and those mocking the protest as being “just for college recommendations,” with the discussion branching out into Japan’s history of student movements and comparisons of school facilities.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Flash+) thread “French High School Blockades, 250,000 Join Protests — Clashes With Police, 490 Detained.”

  • Shohei Ohtani Strikes Out Swinging in Another Clutch Spot as Postseason Slump Continues

    In a postseason game on October 7, 2026, the Dodgers’ Shohei Ohtani struck out swinging on a pitch out of the zone from opposing left-hander Chris Sale with a runner on base in a scoring chance. On 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” (live-commentary) thread, posters reacted to the moment in real time, split between those questioning Ohtani’s clutch hitting in the postseason and those arguing that left-handed batters in general were struggling against Sale’s outside pitches that day. Some pointed out that Freeman had struck out on a similar pitch, and plenty of comments credited the opposing pitcher’s performance rather than pinning it on an individual slump for Ohtani.

    1AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:23
    Lmao (草 = "grass," 5ch slang for lol)
    5AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:24
    Why is he so bad in the postseason?
    6AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:24
    Is he gonna be dead weight in the postseason again this year?
    7AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:24
    Not enough hot dogs and cola in him
    12AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:24
    Blame whoever put a guy this weak in the clutch in the 5-hole
    14AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:25


    So garbage it's hilarious lol
    22AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:26
    Re: #14
    Apparently he's DH-only these days
    28AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:27
    Re: #14
    Lmaooo wwwwwwwwwwwwwww (the w's spell out laughter, like "lol")
    16AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:26
    Facing Sale today, it's not just Ohtani — no lefty stood a chance.
    47AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:36
    Re: #16
    Exactly. Lefties had zero chance.
    56AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:41
    Re: #16
    Then don't put him in the lineup then lol🤣
    19AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:26
    He's seriously turned into Mr. Flail-at-Everything, hacking at balls out of the zone.
    30AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:28
    https://x.com/talkinbaseball_/status/2107597350680305828?s=46

    He's legit washed up lol (オワコン, slang for "has-been")
    37AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:30
    Re: #30
    Someone's salty
    31AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:28
    He's been so bad even TV has stopped covering him.
    32AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:28
    This guy only hits meaningless solo homers anyway.
    35AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:29
    Re: #32
    Meanwhile: no home runs in his last 95 at-bats
    40AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:32
    Isn't the opposing pitcher Sale basically someone Ohtani can never hit?
    Maybe they should've just benched him for this one.
    42AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:33
    Honestly that's just a good pitch. Nothing to be done.
    43AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:35
    To be fair, Freeman chased that same breaking ball
    and struck out the same way.
    Gotta give the pitcher credit on this one.
    45AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:36
    Lefties really are weak against this pitch that darts away outside from a southpaw, huh
    Everyone's just flailing at it lol
    46AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:36
    Just throwing balls on the outside corner — even a high schooler could get guys out like this.
    49AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:37
    I wonder if he'd lose it if someone taunted him the way they mocked Hosokawa for dodging a pitch — swinging with his butt stuck out. (Reference to an earlier incident involving another player)
    57AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:41
    Seems like news about other players' performances is outpacing Ohtani's lately.
    62AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:47
    Every single one of Sale's outs is a strikeout, what the hell
    67AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:51
    Looking back, that one at-bat was probably the only real scoring chance all game — classic pattern.
    72AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:54
    Ohtani's not great. Japanese people aren't great. I'm not great. (a mocking riff on a self-deprecating meme format)
    74AnonymousOct 7, 2026 07:55
    He's getting absolutely roasted by Americans lol
    93AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:04
    *Note: he's a pitcher currently in rehab.
    109AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:05
    Re: #93
    His rehab stints drag on forever, and the second he's healed he gets hurt again — a useless pitcher who still somehow shows up to torment hitters.
    124AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:09
    This is a flow where there's just no way they're winning.
    126AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:10
    Re: #124
    Yamamoto's putting his life on the line out there, looks like a shutout.
    127AnonymousOct 7, 2026 08:11
    Re: #126
    Even if Yamamoto throws a shutout, the Dodgers (mockingly "Dodge-trash") still can't win if they can't hit.

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    Shohei Ohtani appeared in this game as a DH only, and since the postseason has far fewer games than the regular season, the outcome of a single at-bat in a scoring chance tends to get emphasized well beyond what the raw numbers suggest. The opposing pitcher, Chris Sale, is known for his command of outside pitches against left-handed batters, and the thread itself noted that Freeman struck out on a similar pitch — so a fair number of comments credited the opposing pitcher’s performance rather than framing it as an individual slump for Ohtani. On the other hand, specific figures like “no home runs in 95 at-bats” were also posted in the thread; note that this is a claim made within the thread and has not been independently verified for this article. The discussion never settled cleanly on either questioning his clutch hitting or crediting the opponent — what stands out about this thread is that opinions split even though everyone was reacting to the same moment.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Sad News] Shohei Ohtani Strikes Out Swinging in Another Scoring Chance Again WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.”

  • Should Ohtani Be Benched? “He May Need to Sit on the Bench” — LA Media Fires Back: “He Can’t Help the Team Like This”

    Los Angeles Dodgers star Shohei Ohtani has fallen into a severe batting slump as the postseason enters its late stages. The numbers tell the story: just 1 RBI in his last 91 plate appearances and no home runs in his last 94. With him going silent at the plate in scoring situations, local LA media have gone so far as to argue that “it may be necessary to drop him from the starting lineup and let him rest on the bench.” On 5ch, a thread debated the possible causes of the slump — concerns over his left knee and right arm, fatigue from playing in the WBC, and lifestyle changes since the WBC — with opinions split between those accepting the case for benching him and those defending him by pointing to his home run total and other stats.

    Should Ohtani Be Benched? “He May Need to Sit on the Bench” — LA Media Fires Back: “He Can’t Help the Team Like This”

    On October 4 (local time), the Los Angeles Dodgers fell 2-3 to the Atlanta Braves in Game 2 of the NL Division Series.

    The lineup went completely silent, failing to get a single hit in eight at-bats with runners in scoring position. At the center of that struggle is the name Shohei Ohtani.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 7, 2026 01:36
    Yeah, this guy's just not Ichiro.
    13AnonymousOct 7, 2026 01:44
    Re: #2
    Ichiro barely made the postseason after his rookie year, so that's not really a fair comparison.
    4AnonymousOct 7, 2026 01:38
    Re: #1
    Is this from some LA tabloid, or is it "Daily Hyundai" or something? (a sarcastic jab implying the source isn't real journalism)
    7AnonymousOct 7, 2026 01:40
    He's become washed-up content… so sad.
    8AnonymousOct 7, 2026 01:41
    Well, Betts and Smith are hitting even worse than Ohtani, so—
    Ohtani → De Paula
    Betts → Heeson
    Smith → Lashing
    (i.e., playing like replacement-level scrubs)
    yeah.
    9AnonymousOct 7, 2026 01:41
    1 RBI in his last 91 plate appearances
    No home runs in his last 94

    Is this for real?
    The second stat's bad enough, but isn't the first one way worse?
    11AnonymousOct 7, 2026 01:42
    No need to bench him, come on.
    91AnonymousOct 7, 2026 05:35
    Re: #11
    The idea is to put Teoscar in as DH instead
    His defense has already cost them one play out there.
    12AnonymousOct 7, 2026 01:43
    Hilarious how the second he's slumping, he completely vanishes from Japan's old-school media.
    28AnonymousOct 7, 2026 02:23
    Re: #12
    Now that you mention it, it's all Murakami these days.
    14AnonymousOct 7, 2026 01:46
    When he does play, the crowd still goes wildest for him though.
    15AnonymousOct 7, 2026 01:47
    The only ones who get to decide are the team paying his salary.
    16AnonymousOct 7, 2026 01:48
    He's hit 30 home runs, so I don't think he's declined, but it's true he's been off since the injury. Figured resting him would fix it, but it didn't.
    17AnonymousOct 7, 2026 01:50
    I don't think they can three-peat without Ohtani in the first place.
    Put another way, winning three straight absolutely requires his power.
    18AnonymousOct 7, 2026 01:50
    Honestly, Ohtani batting 6th would still be a threat.
    19AnonymousOct 7, 2026 01:52
    Factoring in defense, Roberts probably wants to put Teoscar at DH.
    27AnonymousOct 7, 2026 02:12
    He's late on everything and chasing pitches out of the zone — what's happened to him?
    37AnonymousOct 7, 2026 03:06
    Re: #27
    Has it gotten to his eyes too now?
    42AnonymousOct 7, 2026 03:24
    Everyone goes through slumps
    even the best player in the world, Ohtani
    Just rest him a bit and let him recover
    he's probably exhausted.
    66AnonymousOct 7, 2026 04:34
    Re: #42
    "Best in the world" at some bush-league sport, lol (a dig calling baseball a minor, backwater game)
    48AnonymousOct 7, 2026 03:42
    Looks like they're going to get knocked out this round.
    67AnonymousOct 7, 2026 04:35
    Guess he's found something more important than baseball.
    The guy who used to see nothing but baseball now puts parenting ahead of it, and Mamiko ahead of it too.
    Just looking at his body, you can tell his diet discipline has gone out the window.
    That whole "sleeping 10+ hours a day" routine has probably changed completely by now too.
    I mean, life isn't only baseball, and it's not really a good-or-bad thing.
    But from our side, the only part of Ohtani we ever get to see is the baseball part, so personally that's a bit disappointing — though he's not living his life for our sake.
    68AnonymousOct 7, 2026 04:40
    Re: #67
    He's bulked up for his hitter-only role, so that's not strange.
    If he really stopped caring about baseball, he wouldn't force himself to keep playing while his stats tank.
    He's already made enough money for a lifetime, so he could just rest like Judge does.
    71AnonymousOct 7, 2026 04:47
    Figured I hadn't seen him lately — guess he's in a brutal slump.
    Baseball's boring and tedious anyway, who cares.
    Serves the trash media right.
    74AnonymousOct 7, 2026 04:49
    Re: #71
    He's not even in a slump to begin with.
    84AnonymousOct 7, 2026 05:23
    It's the left knee that's bad, right?
    That's his push-off leg, so this year might be rough.
    86AnonymousOct 7, 2026 05:27
    Re: #84
    And on top of that, the tendon in his right arm — the one he uses to pull the ball — is shot too.
    87AnonymousOct 7, 2026 05:30
    Re: #86
    If that's really the situation, I guess it's no wonder people are talking about benching him.
    101AnonymousOct 7, 2026 05:56
    Re: #86
    So that's why all his homers have gone to center/left and none have gone out to right field.
    And maybe that's also why he's been taking fastballs right down the middle — pulling the ball must be too painful.
    99AnonymousOct 7, 2026 05:53
    Just as predicted, there's lingering damage from playing in the WBC.
    A lot of players who join the WBC end up slumping afterward, so playing in it right before a season where the team's going for a three-peat was a mistake.
    But there were probably all sorts of "adult" circumstances involved, so turning it down probably wasn't really an option.
    107AnonymousOct 7, 2026 06:07
    Re: #99
    He's not playing in it.
    That's entirely his own call to make.
    Once he says he won't do it, no one can force him to.
    112AnonymousOct 7, 2026 06:14
    Feels like the end came out of nowhere — is there really no clear fix?
    Or is he simply past his expiration date?
    114AnonymousOct 7, 2026 06:17
    Re: #112
    Choke up on the bat and chop down on it.

    Background and key points

    What this article reports is a “bench him” argument pushed by local LA media — it is not an official policy shift announced by the Dodgers organization or manager Dave Roberts. The result of Game 2 of the Division Series was a 2-3 loss, but the team has not officially explained the specific cause of Ohtani’s slump. The theories raised in the thread — a bad left knee, a damaged tendon in the right arm — are purely speculation, and while some pointed to the effects of his WBC appearance, it should be noted that Ohtani himself has not confirmed he’ll play in the next WBC. Also worth noting: the thread’s comparison to Ichiro overlooks that Ichiro’s team at the time rarely had the chance to reach the postseason in the first place, so a simple stat comparison should be treated with caution.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisoku Sokuho+) thread “[MLB] Should Ohtani Be Benched? “He May Need to Sit on the Bench” — LA Media Fires Back: “He Can’t Help the Team Like This”.”

  • Top 5 Boxing Manga? 5ch Erupts Over That One Impossible Final Slot

    A thread titled “What are the top 5 boxing manga?” went up on 5ch and pulled in 41 replies. Most posters agreed that *Ashita no Joe*, *Ganbare Genki*, *Ring ni Kakero*, and *Hajime no Ippo* were near-locks for four of the five spots, but the final slot sparked chaos, with candidates like *Kamisama wa Southpaw*, *Nozomi♡Witches*, *BB*, and *Youki na Kamome* all thrown into the ring with no consensus in sight. Standout replies dug into the weeds — comparing volume counts, arguing that Rikiishi Toru’s death was really caused by his brutal weight-cutting rather than the fight itself, and a former gym regular testifying to just how popular *Ganbare Genki* was on the inside.

    1AnonymousOct 6, 2026 16:42
    Which of these have you actually read?
    2AnonymousOct 6, 2026 16:45
    Ashita no Joe
    Ganbare Genki
    Ring ni Kakero
    BB
    5AnonymousOct 6, 2026 16:55
    Ashita no Joe
    Ganbare Genki
    Age
    One-Pound Gospel
    Champ
    SUGAR
    RIN
    6AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:00
    Caught an Ashita no Joe rerun over a decade ago. Apparently it's so packed with words that would never air by today's standards that the audio kept getting cut, and I couldn't even tell what anyone was saying lol
    9AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:02
    I always figured Joe's punches in Ashita no Joe were so insane they basically killed Rikiishi, even though Joe lost that fight — but thinking about it now, Rikiishi had cut an absurd amount of weight beforehand, so that's probably what actually did it.
    10AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:03
    What about Todoroke! Ichiban, the one that ran in CoroCoro?
    12AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:04
    Re: #10
    That's like calling Dokaben a judo manga.
    11AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:04
    Taiyo Matsumoto's ZERO is so cool.
    13AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:05
    I loved "Taro," the one from Young Sunday.
    31AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:53
    Re: #13
    I've got the collected volumes.
    14AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:06
    The boxing arc in Aishiteru is good too.
    15AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:08
    BB bit off way more than it could chew.
    37AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:56
    Re: #15
    It left way too strong an impression as a mercenary manga.
    16AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:10
    Sugar and RIN both got a little cameo from a Hello! Project member (Sonin, specifically).
    17AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:10
    That one, Rokudenashi Blues — by Maeda Daison.
    18AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:11
    No doubt about it, Ashita no Joe is head and shoulders above the rest as the masterpiece.
    21AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:17
    Don't remember Nozomi Witches all that well, but personally I don't think it was that great. The stronger the hero got at boxing, the less of the actual "Nozomi" there was to it.
    44AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:04
    Re: #21
    It's good right up until he turns pro and wins the Japanese title.
    23AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:21
    What about Kamen Boxer (Masked Boxer)?
    32AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:53
    Re: #23
    It wraps up nicely in one volume. Shimamoto-sensei also drew Challenger, a more straightforward boxing manga.
    24AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:22
    The Kokuden Punch from Honoo no Tenkousei came to mind, but now that I think about it, that wasn't even a boxing manga, was it?
    30AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:41
    Geni Kasuri is actually pretty solid — might sneak into the top 5.
    34AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:54
    There's one called Youki na Kamome (The Cheerful Seagull), you know.
    35AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:54
    Re: #34
    Yeah, the hero's an ex-pickpocket.
    38AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:57
    Fighting Cook
    Pit Bull

    Both by the same author, Adachi Tsuyoshi.
    39AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:58
    Volume counts:

    Hajime no Ippo (Weekly Shonen Magazine) — 145 volumes
    Nozomi♡Witches (Weekly Young Jump) — 48 volumes
    Ring ni Kakero (Weekly Shonen Jump) — 25 volumes
    Ashita no Joe (Weekly Shonen Magazine) — 20 volumes
    Kamisama wa Southpaw (Weekly Shonen Jump) — 12 volumes
    40AnonymousOct 6, 2026 17:59
    Joe
    Genki
    Rinkake
    Ippo ← doesn't look like it'll ever end, but
    that last slot really is the hard part
    41AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:02
    It's a shame Chiba Akio's Champ was left unfinished.
    42AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:03
    That fight in Ganbare Genki where Genki awakens against his rival Kazan and knocks him out cold with a rush, ending Kazan's career on the spot, was brutal. Rising Fighter Takeru has a similar beat where the hero awakens and beats a technically superior rival into a career-ending pulp.
    43AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:03
    Isn't the Gangoose creator doing a boxing manga right now?
    45AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:05
    There was also Toughness Daichi. Youki na Kamome actually gets pretty serious about the boxing.
    46AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:05
    The boxing manga by the Major guy wasn't it lol. All anyone remembers is the fat heroine.
    47AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:09
    Ashita no Joe, Ganbare Genki, Ring ni Kakero, Hajime no Ippo — those four are locked in, but that last one's tough.
    48AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:10
    I used to box, and Ganbare Genki was by far the most popular one at the gym.
    51AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:13
    Re: #48
    What's great is how lived-in the opponents feel — except for the prodigy Kaido and Seki Kenji.
    49AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:11
    Is there even such a thing as a sci-fi boxing manga lol. There was one as an anime, though.
    52AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:14
    Boxing's probably got more manga than any other combat sport. There are likely more than twice as many boxing titles as judo ones.
    53AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:14
    Isn't Ring ni Kakero basically a fantasy manga by this point?
    56AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:15
    Re: #53
    It was a straightforward boxing manga right up until the boomerangs showed up.
    58AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:16
    The manga that exists to sell Apollo Exercisers and Power Wrist/Power Ankle weights.
    59AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:18
    Heh… Kurumada's gift for salesmanship truly knows no bounds…

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    In Ashita no Joe, Rikiishi Toru’s death after the match is portrayed as a direct result of exhaustion from extreme weight-cutting — a scene widely seen as reflecting the real risks of boxing’s weigh-in culture. While the thread reached near-unanimous agreement on four titles, including Ganbare Genki, Ring ni Kakero, and Hajime no Ippo, commenters pointed out that Masami Kurumada’s Ring ni Kakero drifts increasingly into fantasy territory in its later volumes, introducing signature moves like literal boomerangs — which split opinion on just how far it could still count as a “straightforward boxing manga.” The fifth slot likely went unresolved in part because which titles feel essential depends heavily on which generation of readers you ask.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Top 5 Boxing Manga: Hajime no Ippo, Ashita no Joe, Kamisama wa Southpaw, Nozomi♡Witches, Ring ni Kakero.”

  • Juice=Juice’s ‘Unity-First’ Dance Style Divides Hello! Project Fans — 5ch: ‘The Group That Gave Up Dancing to Focus on Singing’

    A discussion has broken out on 5ch’s “Hello! Project” board over the dance style of Juice=Juice, a group under the Hello! Project idol franchise. The thread kicked off with a post arguing that while Hello! Project culture has traditionally prized “everyone dancing hard and in perfect sync,” Juice=Juice has been winning praise for a different approach — prioritizing “unity over intensity” in choreography, and “singing properly over dancing hard.” The discussion expanded to comparisons with the dance cultures of other groups like °C-ute, the Sakamichi series (Nogizaka46/Sakurazaka46/Hinatazaka46), and AKB48, the dancing history of former members Manaka Inaba and Tomoko Kanazawa, and claims that Ruru Danbara has been the driving force behind the group’s push for choreographic unity. Opinions split over whether it’s fair to say the group “gave up on dancing for the sake of singing.”

    1AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:14
    Tough times for groups that always believed hard-hitting dance was the one true Hello! Project way…
    6AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:17
    Anyone can do a "hard" dance, even if they're bad at it.
    Look at Makino or Tamenaga — doesn't exactly scream "great dancer."
    28AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:31
    Re: #6
    Yeah, Tamenaga really is the polar opposite of Juice=Juice in both looks and performance style.
    7AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:18
    Re: #1
    That's nothing — groups like the Sakamichi ("46") series, HANA, XG, or Avantgardey are way more impressive.
    9AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:19
    Re: #7
    Isn't that exactly the point — that Hello! Project's values are out of step?
    8AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:19
    Does anyone else feel like the difficulty of the Sakamichi groups' synchronized dancing doesn't get enough credit?
    10AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:20
    Re: #8
    They're bad at it though.
    23AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:28
    "Unity over intensity," "singing properly over dancing hard" — I thought that described °C-ute.
    27AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:30
    Re: #23
    °C-ute was a group that sang while dancing hard in perfect sync, so they're nothing like Juice=Juice or Kobushi Factory, who dropped dance intensity for the sake of singing.
    32AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:34
    Re: #27
    Current Juice=Juice is pretty close to that though — both "Hatsukoi" and "Moremi" were choreographed by Shiho, who also did a lot of °C-ute's choreography.
    35AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:36
    Re: #27
    Well, in °C-ute only Airi really sang, so everyone else had no choice but to dance.
    38AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:37
    If you've got one member who's a cut above at dancing, everyone's eyes go to her anyway — the rest just need to look roughly in sync.
    41AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:39
    Re: #38
    Kind of like how in ANGERME, back when Sasaki was in the group you could just watch her the whole time — but after she graduated there wasn't much to look at and the group kind of fizzled, that sort of thing?
    45AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:40
    Re: #38
    That only applies to live shows. On TV or in media appearances, if you're not in sync the flaws show and you get dragged for it.
    40AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:39
    Juice=Juice's "viral contribution" ranking: Hayashi → Kawashima → Inoue → Danbara — so Danbara's contribution isn't actually that big.
    43AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:39
    Re: #40
    If we're talking about contribution to going viral, I'd think Endo would at least make the list.
    54AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:44
    Re: #40
    You left out Endo.
    42AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:39
    The big thing with Juice=Juice is that there's no one who's just hopeless at both singing and dancing.
    47AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:41
    Re: #42
    Ringo's singing is a bit shaky though.
    But her dancing is so good that for a bar or two, it's not really a bother.
    48AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:42
    Re: #43
    If anything, she's more of a draw with the general public than Danbara.
    55AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:44
    Re: #48
    By the way, on Juice=Juice's TikTok, the recent "Soran Bushi" video featuring Irie just crossed 50,000 likes, which means every current member has now had a solo or select-unit video break 50,000 likes. Danbara, Kudo, Matsunaga, and Arisawa had already cleared that bar; Irie and Ishiyama were the holdouts, but Ishiyama broke through with a "Noimy" dance-cover video with Endo, and Irie cleared it as mentioned above — so now everyone's done it.
    49AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:42
    Re: #45
    My impression of ME:I is that they get clipped and dragged everywhere — TV, live shows, you name it.
    52AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:44
    Re: #49
    Thanks to that, their popularity's probably dropping.
    50AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:42
    There go the Juice=Juice fans lashing out in every direction again.
    61AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:47
    Re: #50
    Sounds exactly like ANGERME fans, honestly.
    51AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:43
    That's probably also why Juice=Juice's dancing only started getting praised after Inaba left.
    53AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:44
    They're idols, so I don't think dancing big and full of energy — even if it's a bit rough — is necessarily wrong.
    Though that's assuming the face is cute enough to carry it.
    60AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:46
    Re: #53
    "Good-looking members giving it their all with sparkly, high-energy dancing" seems to only work if you keep the group size down.
    iLiFE!'s nine members might be about the max for that formula to stay commercially viable.
    No matter how hard AKB48 gets pushed, having way too many members is ultimately its weakness.
    62AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:47
    Re: #53
    Momoiro Clover Z made it big doing exactly that.
    58AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:46
    Re: #56
    Back when Inaba was in the group though, I never once heard anyone say she was a good dancer.
    63AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:47
    Re: #58
    Inaba actually ranks #1 in the "best dancer" poll voted on by Hello! Project members themselves.
    64AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:47
    They talked about this on TV too — the members all share a unified idea of what a "Juice=Juice-style" dance should look like, and I'd guess that's largely thanks to Danbara.
    69AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:50
    Re: #64
    Yeah, that's true.
    65AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:48
    Inaba's time in the group almost entirely overlapped with Kanazawa's, so as long as Kanazawa — who struggled with dance — was still there, Juice=Juice couldn't really lean into dance as a selling point.
    70AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:50
    Re: #65
    Miyazaki wasn't just "weak at dance" either — she was way beyond that, so no matter how hard Takagi and Miyamoto worked, there was only so much they could do.
    67AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:49
    Juice=Juice is the group that gave up dancing for singing.
    Seriously, this is exactly why dance-loving Hello! Project fans don't take Juice=Juice seriously lol
    73AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:51
    Re: #67
    Rather than flailing around a ton and doing everything half-assed, Juice=Juice went all-in on expression and ended up winning on both dance and singing.
    83AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:53
    Re: #67
    And even that singing isn't really a cut above the rest of Hello! Project anyway.
    68AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:49
    Re: #60
    There's this general vibe that for big groups, dancing in perfect sync is the whole point — so groups with 10+ members don't go viral even if they try to compete on dance.
    77AnonymousOct 6, 2026 18:52
    Re: #68
    That might be part of why Hello! Project has been capping groups at 11 members in recent years — that's roughly the visual limit for being able to tell members apart.
    Among successful groups at other agencies, the Sashihara-produced groups (like STU48 and similar) tend to run about that same size too.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Juice=Juice is one of the longer-running groups within Hello! Project. The group has a history in which Manaka Inaba was praised for her dance skill, Tomoko Kanazawa went through a period of struggling with dance, and the group has since leaned increasingly toward a “unified” choreography style centered on Ruru Danbara. The thread’s disagreement centered on how to interpret this shift: some saw it as “a rational choice to sharpen vocal ability,” while others saw it as “the result of giving up on refining dance precision” — the same phenomenon read in opposite ways depending on one’s standpoint. The fact that TikTok view counts and likes are being cited as a way to measure members’ “contribution” also shows how, unlike CD sales or concert attendance, a distinctly social-media-era yardstick for evaluating idols has taken hold. One point readers may easily misread is that this debate isn’t a simple judgment that “Juice=Juice are bad dancers” — it’s really a difference of interpretation over the group’s chosen approach to self-presentation.

    ※This article is composed of excerpts and a summary from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “The Hello! Project Concept That Juice=Juice Overturned: “Unity Over Intensity in Dance,” “Singing Properly Over Dancing Hard”.”