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A thread titled “Ocarina of Time’s flop line has officially been set at 235 million copies” went up on the Game Hardware board. The poster’s only basis was hearsay — “a Nintendo fanboy (Nishi-kun) said so” — and 235 million is a figure that exceeds even the GTA5 series’ estimated cumulative sales of roughly 200 million. Replies piled on questioning the idea of declaring failure based on a number with zero official backing, and some fired back that by the same logic GTA6 ought to be held to an equally tough bar — turning the thread into a back-and-forth over whose standard was actually stricter.
What people said
That's it!
If your Japanese is so bad you can't even tell where the word got misused, don't go starting threads.
and calling that a conclusion.
Huh? Isn't it supposed to outsell GTA?
So that means it's guaranteed to move over 200 million copies, right?
The Nintendo fanboy said so, how should I know?
Then go drag out this "Nintendo fanboy" who supposedly said it.
That's on you now.
So are you saying the Nintendo fanboy himself thinks Ocarina of Time will sell less than GTA, PlayStation boy (boo-chan)?
Just hurry up and bring out this so-called Nintendo fanboy already.
What do you think?
Go ask this so-called Nintendo fanboy yourself.
He's basically your god that you obey unconditionally, isn't he?
So, PlayStation boy, what do you think?
Which sells more, Ocarina of Time or GTA?
What's with the "so"? You always bail the second it gets inconvenient for you. Don't. You. Dare. Run.
By "GTA" do you mean the sales figures for GTA6 on PS5?
There it is — every time I see this copypasta I just know this guy is actually screaming it out loud for real, and that cracks me up.
Isn't it supposed to beat GTA?
So then it has to clear GTA5's 200 million, or there's no point even discussing it.
If you've got them on ignore, you shouldn't even be able to tell they replied to you.
He can say whatever he wants playing any role he likes — his whole act is way too unsuited for this board. Go take it to X or wherever, you've got your "kizuna" alt accounts for that, don't you?
Hey, Nintendo fanboy… I'm not "Ryutsu," but
how long are you gonna keep saying that with zero evidence it's the same person?
How long are you gonna keep up this pointless act?
Can't wait for GTA to crush it and watch the Nintendo pigs lose their minds.
Sketchy Japanese.
And you expect me to trust this how, exactly?
He doesn't need trust or agreement anyway.
The real problem is he's desperate for whatever sense of superiority he can squeeze out of stuff like this.
Guess GTA6's flop line is also 235 million then lol
Well, it might get there in ten years…
counting PS Plus, Game Pass, and all that.
No way it hits that number on day one, but give it enough time and GTA will probably get there.
That's because anyone with sense knows that if this standard gets accepted, the same conditions would end up being demanded of the PlayStation side too.
Nobody backs a kamikaze run that drags his own allies down with him.
He probably figures he can just pretend it never happened, but when's he gonna learn?
Ocarina of Time's flop line: 70 million day-one, 230 million lifetime.
Guess you're not confident about GTA, huh.
T-this is what a "muscle it through"-tier meltdown looks like…!!
You sure you're okay after pulling a stunt like that?
Background and Key Points of This Debate
On gaming forums, a “flop line” is slang for a failure threshold that an anonymous poster sets arbitrarily — not an official benchmark — and unverifiable hearsay often gets treated as hard fact. This thread’s only basis was likewise hearsay (“a Nintendo fanboy said so”), with no official source for the number itself. What split the replies was that the thread set an extremely high bar of 230 million copies for the new Zelda game based on GTA5’s estimated cumulative sales of roughly 200 million, while others countered that the same logic should then apply to GTA6 itself. The discussion ended up less about whether the number was credible and more about accusations of a double standard — whose side the bar was really designed to favor. What readers might easily miss is that 235 million isn’t a figure from any publisher or research firm — it’s purely a guess that originated inside the thread itself.
*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Geha)) thread “[Bad News for Nintendo Fanboys] Ocarina of Time’s Flop Line Set at 235 Million lmaowww.”
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