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The story
Hello! Project group Juice=Juice traveled to Korea for a dance training camp to learn choreography for their new single, and footage of the trip streaming on Hulu sparked discussion on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. The thread ranged from technical doubts — can they even pull off intense K-pop-style footwork in thick-soled heels? — to bigger-picture points about how Hello! Project’s sing-while-dancing style runs on different assumptions than K-pop’s lip-syncing culture. Opinions split between posters welcoming it as valuable training abroad and those questioning why a one-off tie-in song needed K-pop choreography in the first place.
What people said
Who cried?
I think back then they still choreographed with singing in mind.
If they actually did serious dancing, they wouldn't be able to sing properly.
True, and what Hello! Project does is really just an applied, performance-level layer on top of that. Members like Kawashima and Endo already built up solid fundamentals before joining, so they can keep drilling basics on their own and keep adding to that foundation. Even within Hello! Project, it feels like the newer trainees these days are being trained with more emphasis on fundamentals.
Isn't the point to shoehorn Juice into the K-pop mold? The public image of Hello! Project is "hopelessly uncool," so maybe they're trying to shake that off.
It looks like flailing because they're not in sync.
Sayashi, Kasahara, and Yume all had to go out of their way and graduate to change their environment and realize that — meanwhile Juice=Juice gets to realize and learn it all while staying inside Hello! Project.
So did she give up on singing then? lol
Exactly this. Meanwhile look at Angerme — insane dancing AND overwhelming vocal power.
If dancing hard enough to leave them out of breath starts hurting the singing, that's just not Juice anymore.
That was just a quote-retweet from X (Twitter), that's all.
K-pop's getting old too, people are tired of it.
This just shows how narrow-minded Hello! Project fans are. That's exactly why they're stuck topping out at Budokan and Yokohama Arena.
If you want to claim it's not really getting old, back it up with actual numbers.
The 46 groups (Sakamichi) are stealing Momusu's thunder with their group choreography these days, and SKE's been picking up that style too lately.
Can't you even see the post right above yours? lol
2026 Female Idol Dome/Stadium Shows
21 Korea
15 Sakamichi
4 Equal Love
1 Kawalab
0 Stardust
0 Amuse
0 Hello! Project
0 iLIFE
And what about the sales numbers, which are what actually matter?
Hello! Project
Korean agency
The nerve to go on a full tour with that little practice is honestly impressive lol. Normally you'd be too embarrassed to even get on stage.
Background and Key Points of the Debate
Hello! Project has long marketed “singing live while dancing” as the group’s core strength — a point of contrast with K-pop idols, who often lip-sync through especially complex choreography. The thread split over whether to view the Korean choreography camp as valuable technical training or dismiss it as just a gimmick tied to a one-off collaboration song. Commenters debated whether the footwork is even feasible in thick-soled heels, and some pointed out that earlier K-pop groups like Girls’ Generation adjusted their choreography with singing in mind — a reminder that K-pop dance isn’t uniformly high-difficulty-and-lip-synced, a nuance that’s easy to miss. The names of former Hello! Project members who left the group, such as Sayashi Riho and Kasahara Momona, also came up, with some praising the fact that Juice=Juice members can learn these skills while staying in the group, while others remained skeptical of the shift in direction itself.
*This article is composed of excerpts and a summary from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “[Hulu] Juice=Juice Is in Korea on a Choreography Camp for Their New Song.”
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