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Reports that Japan’s Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism (MLIT) is considering tax reforms to curb speculative real estate deals like condo flipping have sparked backlash from property investors. The thread was divided over whether the regulations would actually bring prices down, and how much impact foreign buyers are really having on the market.
MLIT requests tax reform to curb speculative condo trading, aiming to rein in soaring real estate prices
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Source: x.com / Original post here
What people said
Homebuilders are toast.
Honestly, it'll probably just stop the surge — it won't actually make prices drop
Building materials and labor costs aren't coming down
So it's not like rice, where it just stops selling and prices start dropping
Thanks ("サンガツ" = netspeak for "39" = thanks)
I think new-build prices won't drop, but flip/resale prices will
Since this only regulates short-term resales, after all
Average price of a used 70㎡ condo 😢
Tokyo: ¥120 million
Osaka: ¥52.64 million
Nagoya: ¥29.07 million
Going by this, Tokyo and central Osaka will probably see prices drop
Tokyo's stupidly expensive lol
Nagoya's way too cheap by comparison
I get this stuff isn't always logical, but I can't understand people dropping ¥100 million on a tiny cramped house
Same thing happened during the bubble era
What's propping it up is the 'land myth' (the belief that land always rises in value)
That said, it's still cheap from a foreign buyer's perspective
Japanese take-home pay hasn't grown at all in 30 years, so having just condo prices double is brutal
Well, I guess housing for citizens comes first
Now just add regulations on foreign buyers too, please
Wouldn't it be better to just give subsidies to people who want to live somewhere but can't afford it?
TV stations can go under for all I care lol
That's office leasing, a different thing
Sounds like you've never been to a shareholders' meeting
Those things are just full of bored old people
I'd say it generates a ton of demand and money though
If you know it's profitable, why not just do it yourself
If I had a lump sum of cash, I'd wanna do it too
Apparently if you're a civil servant you can do it even without a down payment
They're linked, so of course the office market is gonna be affected too
This just strengthens taxes on short-term capital gains from condo sales, so it won't affect office leasing — i.e., the landlord business
@murio1999
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If they tackled the fact that foreigners can buy so easily first, that would help curb the condo price surge too.
Guess there are still people out there who think it's foreigners doing all the condo flipping
Even though MLIT's own statistics show foreign nationals' real estate purchases are only a few percent
Feels like the foreign buyer ratio would be high for real estate in central Tokyo specifically though
The only ones who lose out are the scum who just flip it
That's not quite right either
If you seriously run a central Tokyo condo as a rental, the yield (rent ÷ purchase price) ends up around just 1%, so unless you're investing for capital gains, there's no real appeal
Flipping is a legitimate investment strategy on its own, but the gap from actual housing demand got way too extreme
Background and Key Points
Interest rates and building-material costs are the pieces of context missing from the thread, so let me make sure the closing commentary supplies them alongside the tax mechanics.
The regulation MLIT is weighing targets short-term capital gains on condominiums — Japan already taxes real estate profits at a steep rate (roughly 39% combined national and local tax) if a property is held under five years, versus about 20% for long-term holds; the reported reform would tighten this further specifically for flips, not for landlords who hold and rent. This distinction matters because Japan’s postwar “land myth” (土地神話), the belief that land values only rise, drove the original bubble economy of the late 1980s, and heavily leveraged short-term resales are a visible echo of that pattern, especially in Tokyo and Osaka, where used 70㎡ condo prices now average roughly ¥120 million and ¥52.6 million.
The thread’s real fault line wasn’t for-or-against the crackdown but whether it would lower prices at all. Several posters argued the reform only slows the pace of increases without reversing them, since construction material and labor costs are structurally elevated, not speculative — meaning new-build prices stay put while only resale/flip prices soften.
What outside readers will likely misread is the “foreign buyers are driving this” narrative that surfaces reflexively in these threads. A poster directly cited MLIT’s own data showing foreign nationals account for only a few percent of real estate purchases nationally, undercutting the instinct to blame overseas capital for the affordability crisis. The thread also surfaced, almost as an aside, the more structural culprit: rental yields on central Tokyo condos run around just 1%, meaning the properties make little sense as income-generating rentals and only “work” financially as bets on resale appreciation — which is precisely the behavior the tax reform is trying to discourage.
*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[LOL] Japanese Government: ‘We’re Regulating Condo Flipping’ → Investors Losing Their Minds wwwwwwwwwwwww”.
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