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A thread started on 5ch’s “Anything Goes Live” board by an anonymous poster billing themselves as a self-styled “expert” has stirred up debate. The poster’s claim — that people whose only edge over anyone else is “having obeyed the law” end up bashing criminals and badly-behaved celebrities as a way of compensating for their own inferiority complex — struck a chord with some (“that hit me hard”), while others dismissed it as “just a delusional prose-poem thread” or “pure labeling.” The discussion gradually broadened into whether criminal-bashing can be justified as a form of maintaining public order or social punishment, and into a comparison of which is worse: bashing driven by righteous indignation, or bashing done purely for profit.
What people said
That hit me hard
Sounds like life's been rough on you
Maybe so lol
Exactly this
Also, sock-puppeting themselves (replying to their own thread under fake IDs)
If they do, it's only when asked for their opinion
Someone who's constantly raging at the news or at celebrities is clearly a failure
So basically you're saying anyone jumping on an online flame war anonymously is bottom-tier?
These days it's tough for celebrities to keep their name recognition up too, so I get the impression quite a few of them jump in to grab a piece of any trending topic
What is this guy even saying
Those people are the ones directly involved
Lol, folded instantly
The victims and everyone connected to them probably don't want this to be forgotten either, so wrongdoers should keep getting bashed by society
Lol, they think I committed a crime
Guess that's how you end up a failure in life lol
That's exactly why they bash them — they think they can win
Even though that person themselves is the lowest of the low
No, the criminal is lower, obviously
If that's the case I think it's fine
At that point it's basically a business
Swarming in out of pure rubbernecking, without even making money off it, is just plain stupid
I don't get the ethics of thinking bashing someone for business is better than bashing them out of righteous anger
Because they think it's righteous anger, but really they're just bashing out of an inferiority complex
They don't actually care one bit about making the world a better place
It's really just "why does this guy get to succeed and have people help him even though he's got terrible manners?! Unforgivable!!!"
Even if that's a big part of it, the common-sense view is still that bashing people for business is the more sinful of the two
Even with embezzlement, occupational embezzlement carries harsher penalties, after all
Though that's more about people who've made some blunder than actual criminals
Right
Once you set a reasonable baseline, this world is obviously better off the more tolerant everyone is beyond that
At this point they're just imposing their own personal rules and bashing people over them
They're inventing new standards of "nuisance" purely because they want something to bash
It's similar to how etiquette instructors keep churning out new made-up manners
Even here on 5ch you often see guys saying things like "even the thugs on the street have girlfriends, so it's messed up that I, who never hits anyone, can't get a girl" — it's chilling
There are tons of people furious that "even someone just listing a teacup they simply don't use doesn't get reported and suspended!"
Funny thing is, the idiots mass-reporting indiscriminately are the ones getting banned instead, lol
They might think they're policing other people, but in the end, when push comes to shove, they're the ones who lose out
Same with bashing welfare recipients ("namapo" slang) — way too many people never imagine a future where they end up on that side themselves
Seriously, that
People who are harsh on others are harsh on themselves too, so they end up suffering for it in the end
Not being able to imagine a scenario where you or your family end up in a tough spot is pretty dumb, honestly
That's a different story though
Thugs aren't necessarily criminals, and the bashing there is aimed at the women who like those thugs, not the thugs themselves
I felt the common thread was that "the only thing they can claim to beat others at is obeying the law"
There are also people who say "it pisses me off when a reformed delinquent gets showered with praise"
The moment that aggression gets aimed at someone who has nothing to do with it, I don't think there's any room left to justify it
Why do you think it's allowed to plaster a criminal's face and personal info all over the news without their consent?
That's what's called social punishment.
The public beats criminals down and tanks their social standing.
That's effectively baked into the punishment itself, and the justice system tolerates it.
In other words, the justice system believes "order is maintained by the public bashing criminals."
So doesn't that mean we, by contributing to that, are the ones keeping order?
It's not actually "allowed" — that's exactly why sentences get reduced when someone's already suffered social punishment
Seriously, this — it's a good thing, and I'm grateful for it
Though I honestly can't understand what motivates people to do it
Bashing other people online sounds like it'd make me sick just doing it, I couldn't
The problem is people take it too far and end up cramping their own lives
It's not just crimes — they drag out and bash people over manners and morals too (i.e., their own personal rules)
The media does it because it's literally their job
But spending your own unpaid life "maintaining public order" (lol) is just laughable
Background and Key Points of This Debate
The opening phrase “a certain expert” isn’t an actual professional’s view — it’s a stock phrase commonly seen on 5ch’s “Anything Goes Live” board, used by anonymous posters to lend an air of authority to their own pet theories. This shouldn’t be mistaken for a factual claim. The thread split mainly along two lines of debate. The first concerns motive: is bashing criminals a legitimate act of social punishment effectively baked into the justice system, or is it merely an inferiority complex turned outward? The second is a comparative debate over which is worse — bashing driven by righteous indignation, or bashing done for profit (e.g., to farm clicks) — with some citing the harsher sentencing for occupational embezzlement to argue that profit-driven bashing is the more sinful of the two. The thread also drew distinctions between criticizing criminals versus etiquette violators, and between critiquing work versus attacking individuals personally, showing that this doesn’t reduce to a simple “is bashing good or bad” question.
*This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Anything Goes Live) thread “Self-proclaimed expert: “Bashing criminals is where life’s failures end up” → 60,000 replies“.
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