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The story
A video has been released showing “Ritokyame,” a unit from the idol group Tsubaki Factory, covering the Juice=Juice song “Shi no Go Iwazu Satto Wakarete Ageta” (roughly, “I Broke Up With You in a Flash, No Complaints”). The clip drew a wave of comments about vocal skill on the Hello! Project board. While some praised the singing of Kasai Yuina and Yokaze Runo, others pointed out that Yokaze had flubbed a performance at a past event, and posts comparing view counts on each member’s singing videos also surfaced, leaving opinion split on how to rank talent within the group.
What people said
tps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaZKwdhtTRU
Maybe that's why it feels like Tsubaki's recently shifted to pushing Kasai as a solo act.
yet she gets talked about like she's one of the good singers.
Kasai's pretty solid
Fukuda's so-so.
this was genuinely moving, skill-wise, when I saw it live
though I guess the Juice-supremacy crowd wouldn't get it.
Oshi filter (rose-colored glasses for your favorite member).
Seriously though
tough luck for the couch fans (zaitaku, fans who follow from home) who couldn't catch it live.
Not sure why Tsutsui's coming up here, but yeah, fair enough.
though that would've collapsed Tsubaki.
though I get why people say Kasai's good.
That's because Hello Project otaku don't dock points for being rhythmically tone-deaf.
She's good by Tsubaki standards.
Saniko and Nishimura aren't that great in comparison.
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Kasai 3,601
Yokaze 3,535
Fukuda 2,604
Nishimura 2,497
Tanimoto 2,419
Ishii 2,401
Doi 1,863
Murata 1,837
Saori 1,645
Ono 1,642
Akiyama 1,560
versus in-ear-monitor-assisted, processed vocals
and they're mixing the two up — Juice otaku are beyond saving.
Real otaku wouldn't mix those up… though maybe they're saying it on purpose.
Fukuda Marin 1,061,404
Kasai Yuina 659,376
Yokaze Runo 537,629
Yagi Shiori 483,402
Ebata Kisaki 398,980
Arisawa Ichika 244,543
Irie Risa 233,857
Background and Key Points of the Discussion
Tsubaki Factory and Juice=Juice both fall under the Hello! Project umbrella, and cross-group song covers are a recurring feature of bonus footage and events. What split opinion in the thread was the yardstick for judging vocal skill: technical objections came up over whether a performance was live and whether in-ear monitors or audio processing were involved, with some arguing that differing conditions make a simple comparison of skill unfair. Posts also cited figures like singing-video view counts and event follower counts, but it’s worth noting these can reflect popularity or exposure as much as actual singing ability, so they aren’t necessarily a direct measure of vocal skill. Note that posts amounting to fan-vs-fan sniping or personal attacks have been excluded from this write-up.
※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “[Video] Tsubaki Factory’s “Ritokyame” Tries Singing “Shi no Go Iwazu Satto to Wakarete Ageta” (Juice=Juice) — The Results Are In wwwwwww.”
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