Prison Food Budget Is ¥590 a Day — 5ch: “Better Off Than School Lunch”

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The story

A thread about the realities of life in Japanese prisons got heated on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” board. It revealed that the daily food budget for all three meals comes to just ¥590 — a figure that drew attention for being higher than the roughly ¥300 spent on school lunches — while posters also described the restrictions of prison life, like baths being limited to two or three times a week depending on the season, with guards even watching inmates’ hand movements in the tub. Opinion split over the small wages paid for prison labor, with some arguing “it’s a punishment, so getting paid at all is strange” and others calling it “fair compensation for the work,” and the discussion expanded into the issue of elderly inmates needing nursing care.

What people said

4AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:56
Is this food really that smelly? (there's a Japanese idiom, "eating stinky rice," meaning "doing time")
5AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:57
Re: #4
It's not smelly — it's barley rice, so it just smells like barley.
10AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:59
Re: #4
The phrase "stinky rice" comes from having a toilet right in the same room where you eat — that's the smell they're talking about, not the food itself.
7AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:58
Re: #1
No commute hell and a full 3 hours of free time a day? Sounds pretty great every single day, honestly.
11AnonymousNov 14, 2026 21:59
Re: #7
Sure, you'd have free time, but could you survive without your phone?
17AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:01
Can a person actually sleep for 9 hours and 45 minutes straight?
24AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:04
Re: #17
You basically wake up around 4am and then keep drifting back to sleep again and again.
20AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:02
Re: #11
I love drawing, so give me paper and a pencil and I could live like that forever.
Saw it in some prison manga — if you're in a shared cell you apparently get at least a little TV time too.
28AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:05
Re: #20
Sendai's prison food was way better than this.
21AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:02
The relationships with other inmates sound brutal — no way I could handle that.
33AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:12
Re: #21
It's not like decent people end up in there.

Guys screaming in their cells, loudly messing with the guy next door —
you know how every school has a handful of troublemakers?
Imagine every one of those from every school in the country all crammed into the same room.
That's rough. A lot of these guys have nothing left to look forward to except meals.
30AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:06
Relationships with other people would be the toughest part — there's no way you could spend all day with thugs like that.
31AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:07
Re: #30
You're kind of a thug yourself, so you'll be fine.
41AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:17
Food, clothes, and shelter are all free, so it beats living at rock bottom outside.
59AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:24
Re: #41
At that level you might as well just go on welfare.
51AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:21
If they really want to deter crime, they should make a prison-life field trip part of compulsory education.
57AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:23
Re: #51
Honestly, outdoor school camp already puts you through something pretty similar.
52AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:22
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HW_OurdboAAzwrF.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HPwDWVxbEAAInG3.jpg
53AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:22
It's a prison sentence — be grateful you get paid anything at all.
56AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:23
Re: #53
They're working, so of course they should get paid.
60AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:24
Re: #56
It's a *sentence*. Can you even read?
62AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:25
Re: #60
And that's exactly why — since they're doing prison labor, getting paid is only natural.
65AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:26
Re: #62
It's supposed to be punishment.
Get it?
68AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:27
Re: #65
Whether they get paid is a separate issue. The government clearly agrees, since it's the one paying them.
64AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:26
If your stomach's acting up, are you allowed to ask to use the toilet over and over?
73AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:30
Re: #64
If you're not feeling well, you go to the infirmary.
Prison labor isn't punishment — it's more like a welfare measure for keeping inmates mentally stable, not some mandatory duty you're forced into.
If you're sick, you're allowed to rest.
Actually, these days prisons have more elderly inmates needing care than anything else, so they've basically turned into nursing homes.
Those inmates can't work, so most of them are bedridden.
70AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:29
Re: #68
The government agrees, which is why they get a decent enough wage.
76AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:33
Re: #70
So you also think it's natural for prisoners to get paid for serving their sentence, then?
71AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:29



This is a better meal than what you guys eat.
77AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:34
Bathing isn't even a daily thing in prison to begin with, right? Though maybe it's daily in summer.
82AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:37
Re: #77
In summer it's every other day.
I don't think any prison lets you bathe every single day.
You get 15 minutes in the bathroom itself, then the remaining 5 minutes to undress, towel off your wet body, and get dressed.
When you're soaking in the tub, you have to keep your fingers above the water surface the whole time so the guard watching can confirm you're not doing anything weird underwater.
137AnonymousNov 14, 2026 23:12
Re: #77
It's twice a week in winter and three times a week in summer.
The Justice Ministry's regulation only requires twice a week, but they do make some allowance for the heat.
84AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:39
91AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:42
So that's why there are guys who commit minor crimes over and over just to keep going back in.
99AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:47
Re: #91
Welfare is way easier, honestly.
But if you're in prison long enough, don't you end up turning into someone who just waits for instructions, so you don't know what to do with yourself once you're out?
108AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:55
A YouTuber who got out of prison sometime in the past year said that if you look weak, you get bullied and have your food taken, so you end up drinking nothing but water on weekends.
On workdays the guards watch you at lunch, but apparently in private cells there's no monitoring, so anything goes.
113AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:56
Re: #108
Well, bullying is pretty much the only entertainment they've got in there.
120AnonymousNov 14, 2026 23:00
People keep comparing it to school lunch, but prison's total budget for all 3 meals a day is ¥590, while school lunch alone runs about ¥300 — so even then, prison food actually works out a lot cheaper.
And apparently that's just comparing ingredient costs. I guess milk is what eats up the school lunch budget.
123AnonymousNov 14, 2026 23:02
Re: #120
If they crammed milk into the prison food budget too, the meals would probably end up looking pretty sad.
126AnonymousNov 14, 2026 23:05
Re: #120
Prisons also buy up cheap off-spec produce that can't be sold on the market from partner farms, so budget-wise they're actually in a better spot than school lunches.

Background and Key Points of This Debate

The figure of ¥590 a day for prison food is the Justice Ministry’s standard for ingredient costs, which looks higher than the roughly ¥300 spent on school lunches — but that’s an ingredients-only comparison that leaves out labor and facility costs. Likewise, baths being “three times a week in summer, twice a week in winter” comes from a Justice Ministry regulation that sets the baseline at twice a week, with the extra summer session added in recent years as a heatstroke precaution. Where the thread split was over whether a prison sentence is purely punishment or whether the labor deserves pay — posters disagreed over whether the reward money paid to inmates for prison labor should count as a “wage” or as something that cuts against the point of punishment. In reality, prison labor is mandatory, and the money paid is a small amount under a separate system from ordinary market wages — a distinction that isn’t widely understood. The thread also touched on how Japanese prisons are increasingly functioning like nursing facilities due to a growing population of elderly inmates needing care, making this a topic that doesn’t reduce neatly to a simple “hellish or comfortable” debate.

*This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Images] Prison Life Turned Out to Be Seriously Hellish.”

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