On a variety show, comedian Akashiya Sanma claimed that Hello! Project group Juice=Juice has been shut out of NHK’s Kohaku Uta Gassen because “NHK and UFA (Up-Front Group) are feuding.” Fellow guest and former Morning Musume member Sato Masaki backed him up, saying she’d “heard the same rumor” — and the exchange became a hot topic on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. While Juice=Juice and other Hello! Project acts have gone years without a Kohaku appearance, they’ve still appeared on other NHK programs like Uta-Con, and thread posters were split on the reason for the gap: some argued it simply comes down to weak numbers (popularity and drawing power), while others suspect a deep-rooted rift with NHK’s upper management.
What people said
1AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:24
Sanma: Go find out what happened by next week.
Yumigeta/Sakurai: Dunno, dunno!
2AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:25
Feels less like beef with NHK itself and more like there's a wall between them and whoever actually controls Kohaku casting. They could've gotten a slot for the 20th or 25th anniversary too, I'd think.
3AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:25
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HXAOqyObQAAN8_3.jpg
7AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:27
11AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:27
There was a stretch where they couldn't get on Uta-Con at all, and recently they started appearing again, right? Probably the same structure behind it.
13AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:27
Is Sanma just venting on their behalf?
16AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:28
At least let them on Sanma's own "Akashiya Kohaku" then (a Kohaku-parody special hosted by Sanma, playing on his name).
19AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:29
Musume. (Morning Musume) is the only one that gets on Uta-Con regularly.
20AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:29
Let's light this up and get it onto Yahoo! News.
21AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:30
If this turns into a flame war, it'll just push them even further from Kohaku.
33AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:32
Re: #21
They're not getting on anyway, so wouldn't the "they should've made it this year but somehow didn't" storyline be better for buzz?
22AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:30
Even back in their last years of actually appearing, there was drama over other Hello! Project groups trying to force their way in too. Though honestly, Juice=Juice's raw drawing power made it a stretch to begin with.
23AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:30
Do Uta-Con and Kohaku even have different producers or something?
27AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:31
Sato's close to the Chairman (Tsunku, Hello! Project's founder), so she'd probably know the backstage details.
31AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:32
Ma-chan (Sato) was on an NHK anime though, wasn't she?
32AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:32
What year was their last Kohaku appearance? Did something happen around then?
38AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:33
So you're saying they didn't schmooze NHK enough?
40AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:33
At the end of the day, the premise is their popularity just isn't there yet. And watch — Juice=Juice fanboys will use this as an excuse to go off and get hated on even more.
52AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:35
Re: #40
The ones who get hated are guys like you who trash-talk Juice=Juice around the clock, so don't worry about it.
41AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:34
Sanma's knowledge of Hello! Project is still stuck in the era when Tsunku was producing.
42AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:34
Both Musume. and Tsubaki Factory get on Uta-Con too, you know.
43AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:34
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HXAOsROa4AATz9O.jpg
47AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:35
So that's why Dangen (Juice=Juice member) rewrote her blog post?
56AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:37
Re: #47
This is definitely the reason.
49AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:35
CHANNELING STYLE!!!!!!!!!!
50AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:35
Re: #33
Even if you make up a story, the numbers will expose it — that just makes it more pathetic.
57AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:37
Not NHK, but I heard "Mō Taihen Deshita!!" (Morning Musume's old variety show) had a rough time of it too.
58AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:37
No way Sato showing up today is a coincidence — scary good booking, Yama-chan.
59AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:38
Sato's probably talking about how Morning Musume. couldn't get on Uta-Con for a while after the Yoshizawa hit-and-run incident. Tsubaki Factory filled in by singing "Happy Summer Wedding" on Uta-Con instead, so it's not like the agency was totally cut off, though.
64AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:39
https://i.imgur.com/OP96qN8.mp4
73AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:41
They can get on regular NHK shows, just not Kohaku, apparently.
If you think about it calmly, Morning Musume. wouldn't be out of place even in the nostalgia-act slot.
Going 19 years without a single appearance is just weird.
If no Up-Front singer has filled the nostalgia slot since 2007, that pretty much confirms bad blood with Kohaku.
79AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:42
Re: #73
It's simply because their numbers are weak. How many times do I have to say it.
85AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:43
Uta-Con and Kohaku carry totally different weight. If the Chairman's feuding with someone, it's gotta be someone pretty high up at NHK.
89AnonymousNov 14, 2026 22:44
Re: #85
Nah, if that were true they'd be shut out of NHK entirely.
Background and Key Points of This Discussion
Hello! Project-affiliated artists have gone without an appearance at NHK’s Kohaku Uta Gassen since 2007, even though they’ve continued appearing on other NHK programs like Uta-Con. Thread opinion split into two camps over why they’re locked out of Kohaku specifically: (1) that it simply comes down to weak numbers — drawing power and ratings — and (2) that there’s a long-standing rift between NHK and Up-Front (UFA) upper management. Sanma’s comment hints at the latter, but no concrete evidence was offered, so it remains squarely in rumor territory. As for the “rumor” Sato Masaki referred to, posters guessed it likely points to a past Morning Musume-related episode (such as the period when Uta-Con appearances were halted after a member scandal), but the thread itself was full of mixed speculation, and no cause can be confirmed. Readers should keep in mind that Kohaku selection involves multiple factors — NHK’s internal criteria, programming considerations, and more — so a single remark doesn’t settle what, if any, “feud” actually exists.
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