Zion Suzuki makes big saves but still lets in 4 as Villa and Man United share a wild 4-4 draw — 5ch: “If it weren’t for Zion it would’ve been 7”

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The story

In Matchday 10 of the Premier League on November 8, Aston Villa — home to Japan international goalkeeper Zion Suzuki — traveled to Old Trafford to face Manchester United, and the match ended in a wild 4-4 shootout. Villa had a rocky start, conceding twice in the opening minutes; Suzuki pulled off several fine saves along the way, but ultimately let in four goals. On 5ch’s live-match thread, many posters felt the game once again highlighted both Suzuki’s strengths and his long-flagged struggles dealing with high balls, with reactions split between praise and harsh criticism.

In Premier League Matchday 10, played on November 8 local time, Aston Villa — featuring Japan international goalkeeper Zion Suzuki — faced Manchester United away at Old Trafford.

[Video] The two huge saves Zion Suzuki made against Man United!

With Suzuki starting, Villa took the lead just 1 minute in: from a throw-in sequence, Allison reacted to McGinn’s final pass and drilled home a left-footed shot. Three minutes later they doubled the lead, with Jackson following up to finish after United keeper Lammens parried Allison’s shot.

Source: youtube.com / original article here

What people said

2AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:21
Why's Geisupo (5ch's entertainment/sports board) so into Zion?
5AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:22
They should remake this thread specifically going after Zion's high-ball problems
Being vague about it doesn't help anyone
6AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:22
Zion fans and Villa supporters just flaming each other ☺
7AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:24
They let in 4 goals though — couldn't he have stopped any of them?
8AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:24
Way too weak in the air
And there go more dropped points because of it, again
9AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:26
The Zion bubble clearly burst in this match
A big-club move is off the table for now, at least
Question is whether he can turn it around from here
10AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:26
So he still hasn't fixed his high-ball issues after all this time
12AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:26
Conceding 4 to a team that's only won once all season, lol
13AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:27
Match that just wrapped up
Kubo started
62' Sociedad make their first sub, pulling Kubo off — Sociedad 0-0 Rayo
67' Sociedad score — Sociedad 1-0 Rayo
Full time: Sociedad 1-0 Rayo
15AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:28
Re: #13
Same old story with the Japan national team too
Even when Kubo starts, the attack stalls and time just ticks by with no sign of a goal
Then the second he's the first one subbed off midway through the second half
The attack suddenly wakes up and they score the opener
16AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:29
Conceding 4 goals AND stringing together great saves — how does that even work
18AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:30
Re: #16
Conceding 4 and making a bunch of good saves aren't mutually exclusive, you okay?
19AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:30
Just a week ago people were saying he'd soon be the best keeper in the Premier League
20AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:31
Rare to see a player whose strengths and weaknesses are drawn this clearly
22AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:32
No way a keeper this shaky is actually top-tier
24AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:32
This week

Sano Kota (Reims)
Champions League: 1 goal / League: 1 assist

Suzuki Yuito (Bundesliga)
League: 1 goal

Kamada Daichi (Premier League)
Europa League: 1 goal
25AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:34
Re: #1

[Sad news] That Manchester United…
Have sunk all the way down to 18th, into the relegation zone, lmao
46AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:54
Re: #25
Doesn't matter this season — City are going to get hit with a points deduction and slide back down anyway, so it's still fine
26AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:34
Oh no

United are actually gonna get relegated lmao
27AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:35
No idea why Zion's automated match rating stays high even when he screws up and ships a ton of goals
28AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:35
Re: #27
Because he racks up points for his passing
29AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:36
The gilding's starting to peel
The "he's overrated" theory is looking more and more true
30AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:36
There's no out-entertaining Man "Cunts" (ManKasu, a mocking 5ch nickname for Man United)
31AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:38
Re: #1

Japan National Team 🔹𝗦𝗔𝗝𝗕𝗕𝗬 🔹

11.14 (Sat) ⌚19:15 (🇯🇵)
🆚 Brazil 🇧🇷
🏟 Singapore National Stadium (Singapore)
📺 Live nationwide broadcast on TV Asahi
📱 Live stream on U-NEXT (free)

11.17 (Tue) ⌚22:10 (🇯🇵)
🆚 Paraguay 🇵🇾
🏟 Singapore National Stadium (Singapore)
📺 Live nationwide broadcast on Nippon TV
📱 Live stream on TVer (free)


32AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:40
His weakness is public knowledge now — they'll keep muscling him on high balls and watching him drop them
33AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:41
They'll press to disrupt his build-up and target his high-ball handling at corners
Hang in there
35AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:42
He switched clubs but it's basically still Parma, isn't it
Well, he signed for regular starts, so that part's on him, but letting a 2-goal lead get clawed back at Old Trafford is a real problem

Although, both sides conceded 4, so if you just wanted a wide-open goal-fest, that's a win
36AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:45
Hmm, to think his stepping stone to glory would get wrecked by a team like Man United
37AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:45
Japanese mentality → choke the moment the spotlight's on you
38AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:45
If it weren't for Zion, that would've been 7 conceded
39AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:46
That gilding peeled off fast
And conceding 4 to this version of Man United is 100% on the keeper
40AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:50
Guess the Premier League really was too much too soon for us Japanese
Should've done his training in the K League instead — they produce such great keepers there (sarcastic)
41AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:51
Zion's just too nice a guy
In that spot he should've gone up and punched it clear even if it meant clattering into Lammens or Cunha
45AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:53
Re: #41
He's not some murderous keeper from wherever (a 5ch meme nickname for a notoriously reckless goalkeeper), you know
43AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:52
The last two matches have made things look shaky
44AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:53
He's getting torn apart by the fans over there too
An occasional blunder would be forgivable
But once you've exposed a clear weakness that teams will keep targeting, that's a different story
47AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:54
Once Zion and "the Witch" adjust to the Premier League, and Jackson, Manzanhi (満山日, as written), and the Witch are all running riot together, Villa will be strong
Right now, though
everyone's just too worn out and the quality's dropped
48AnonymousNov 9, 2026 04:55
They got done at Old Trafford (AT)

Villa's supporters over there must be pretty disappointed

Background and Talking Points

Zion Suzuki has been a highly touted goalkeeper since his U-23 days, and after joining Aston Villa this past summer he immediately locked down the starting job. At the same time, his handling of high balls (crosses and set pieces) had been flagged as a weakness even before he signed, and that same issue surfaced again in this match against Man United. Where the thread split was over how to weigh his string of fine saves against the end result of conceding four goals — some praised his good play, while others focused on the result, arguing it proved the “he’s overrated” theory. Comparisons with other Japanese players having strong moments around the same time, like Sano Kota, Kamada Daichi, and Suzuki Yuito, also came up — typical of 5ch live-match threads that track Japan’s overseas contingent side by side, rather than a genuine debate over whose numbers are better. There were also mentions of the Japan national team’s upcoming matches against Brazil on November 14 and Paraguay on November 17, reflecting an underlying interest in how club form might affect national-team selection.

*This article is an excerpt/summary compiled from the 5ch (Geisupo Sokuho+) thread “[Football] Japan NT keeper Zion Suzuki makes save after save, but Aston Villa can’t hold the lead, draw 4-4 with Manchester United.”

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