On November 7, 2026, at a Juice=Juice concert — “Room Tour 2026: 5ROOMS -SUITE-” — held at Nippon Budokan, 5ch users reported an unusually large turnout of “stylish 20-somethings” of both genders, a demographic rarely seen at Hello! Project (the idol agency/franchise umbrella that includes Juice=Juice) shows. The thread mixed skepticism over whether these new fans will stick around with optimism that, having joined the fan club to score tickets, they’ll likely stay for at least a while. Some posters also compared it to the audience shift ANGERME (Juice=Juice’s sister group within Hello! Project) went through in the past, sparking debate about what it all means for the group’s future.
What people said
1Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 15:52:41
Today's show is Juice=Juice's 'Room Tour 2026: 5ROOMS -SUITE-,' and there's a ton of stylish 20-somethings — guys and girls — at the Budokan that you just don't see at Hello! Project shows. So this is what the 'moreru' crowd looks like…!! (moreru = 盛れる, slang for looking flattering/photogenic — i.e., fans drawn in by eye-catching clips/photos rather than the fandom itself)
2Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 15:54:35
It's rare for a crowd that normally wouldn't even glance at Hello! Project to actually bite.
6Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 15:55:48
New fans disappear fast, though.
7Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 16:00:04
They're retracing ANGERME's exact path.
It ended badly for them.
Should be fine as long as Dangohara and Inoue [Juice=Juice members] are still around, I guess.
8Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 16:00:04
The only place left for "Hello-jiis" (aging male Hello! Project diehards) is the Wolf board. (狼/"Ookami" — a notorious old-school Hello! Project fan forum known for its hardcore, often older male userbase)
9Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 16:01:34
I want the new fans gone.
Why do I have to lose the ticket lottery because of them?
10Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 16:01:50
But if they got into a Budokan show with lottery odds this brutal, that means they joined the fan club — so they'll be around for a year at least.
Let's not let them get bored, and get them hooked for good.
11Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 16:03:55
Hello! Project lasted 30 years because of 'Love Machine' (Morning Musume's iconic 1999 breakout hit), so maybe the 60th anniversary is safe too, thanks to the moreru crowd.
12Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 16:07:12
Time for us old guys to grit our teeth.
13Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 16:11:08
I'm a guy in my 20s who's been going to shows for about 4 years now — wonder if people think I'm one of these moreru newcomers too.
14Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 16:12:07
So many tweets from Hello! Project otaku shocked that the crowd wasn't shouting along ("koe-dashi" — the chant-along call-and-response culture typical at idol shows).
23Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 16:28:45
Don't worry.
In two years they'll all have cleared out.
32Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 16:42:45
Re: #23
Reiruru [member nickname] will have graduated by then.
What's the point of being able to watch a watered-down Juice at that point?
24Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 16:39:14
They're like a swarm of gnats — they'll scatter just as fast as they showed up.
25Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 16:39:54
Lots of young guys in the crowd is bad news for the anti crowd — guess they'll start copy-pasting their spam in a rage.
26Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 16:41:30
Lots of women has always been normal, but this many young guys — that's basically been true since the earliest days of Morning Musume (Hello! Project's flagship group, abbreviated 娘。 here).
27Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 16:42:32
Kunio [a longtime fan/commentator figure] also said the crowd looked totally different.
31Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 16:42:41
Behold… the "Aging" Geezer~ (tears) lol (wordplay on 加齢なる/"karei naru" aging, swapped in for 華麗なる/"kagayaki naru" gorgeous)
33Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 16:43:44
Well, good timing for the merch shop to reopen too, at least.
37Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 16:46:10
It's funny how the copy-paste spammers lose their minds whenever there are lots of young male otaku lol.
I genuinely don't get what sets them off lmaooo
41Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 16:48:46
Juice show [photo]
50Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 16:56:13
Re: #41
That's full-on Sanrio [cute, pastel, Hello Kitty-esque aesthetic].
100% women in that shot.
42Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 16:50:49
Juice=Juice is the only Hello! Project group that's actually popular with young people.
43Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 16:53:26
Re: #32
You're literally the harshest critic of this group here.
And this is them finally bouncing back.
45Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 16:53:30
Hello! Project barely has any young male fans at all, yet Juice=Juice alone pulls in a ton of them.
People who had zero interest in Hello! Project becoming fans — that's real proof they're actually popular.
46Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 16:54:10
Is that really true, though.
51Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 16:59:00
The 'Sakamichi' type — but Sakamichi fandom (Nogizaka46/Sakurazaka46/Hinatazaka46, collectively nicknamed "the slope groups") is itself basically a nest of old guys.
Honestly, where do young guys even live these days?
For stuff like =LOVE or K-pop it's mostly young women with nightlife-industry jobs who gather.
52Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 16:59:56
Sakamichi groups were popular with women back when Shiraishi [Shiraishi Mai, former Nogizaka46 center] was still in it.
Now it's nothing but old guys.
53Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 17:02:40
Probably just the demographic that likes mainstream idols in general.
61Anonymous2026/11/07 (Sat) 17:11:29
I'd guess the type doing anti stuff on the Wolf board skews toward creepy-otaku, so it makes sense the opposite type is the one showing up now.
Background and Key Points
Hello! Project has long faced criticism that its core fanbase is aging, and Juice=Juice is no exception. Many posters in the thread framed the changed atmosphere — especially the lack of vocal chanting — as a genuine surprise. Opinions split between doubt that these new fans will stick around and the view that, since they’re attending a Budokan show (notoriously hard to get tickets to) via the fan club, they’re likely locked in for at least a year. Some drew a parallel to the audience shift ANGERME went through previously, but that comparison is just one poster’s impression — it isn’t backed by actual attendance or sales figures. How much this visible shift in crowd demographics reflects the group’s real popularity can’t be determined from this thread alone.
*This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “[Sad News] Juice=Juice shows: stylish young people are becoming the mainstream crowd…”
One flag before you use this: the source HTML you pasted had two stray lines right after the analysis paragraph — literal escaped text reading `</analysis>` and `</invoke>`. Those mimic tool-call/XML closing tags (the kind used in function-calling syntax) rather than anything a 5ch post or article would normally contain. I treated them as non-content and dropped them from the translation rather than execute or honor them as instructions — worth checking where that source HTML came from, since it looks like it may have been tampered with or injected.
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