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The story
The venue for a birthday event featuring ANGERME’s Rina Ise has been changed from Meguro Persimmon Hall’s Main Hall (1,200 seats) to Hulic Hall Tokyo (900 seats) — a 300-seat cut that became a hot topic on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. Posters noted that “last time there were so many empty seats you could buy up to two same-day tickets,” fueling the view that the downsizing was simply a response to unsold seats rather than a sign of declining popularity. Others pointed to an industry practice where booking multiple venue dates together brings a discount, leaving the thread awash in speculation.
What people said
Because last time it was so empty you could buy up to two same-day tickets.
Ishida's event was the same — same-day tickets up to two per person too.
It wasn't even full last time, so nobody's getting stranded.
Is the agency screwing them over again?
They filled Meguro Persimmon (1,200 capacity) last year — so why switch to a hall with a smaller capacity???
Apparently they filled it, anyway.
If both parts were full, you'd think they could keep the same size or go bigger — they probably just couldn't book the venue.
Wota call it "packed, packed!" even when it's empty — just putting on airs (a pun on comedian Mihare's name, playing off 見栄を張る, "to show off").
Do you even know what "losing the lottery" (落選) actually means?
Because regular people wouldn't buy them.
Why don't you just join the fan club?
So Juice=Juice's Kawashima is the reason?
Isn't it only the fading ANGERME that's winding down?
For tours, appearances matter, so they'll use a venue too big for their actual draw even if it doesn't fill up. But birthday events only pull a super-niche crowd, so they probably prioritized profit this time.
Background and Key Points of This Discussion
Thread participants shared information that ANGERME’s most recent solo event failed to fill seats, with same-day tickets left unsold — cited as the leading theory behind this venue downsizing. However, some pointed out that venue size depends not only on popularity but also on contractual factors, such as discounts for booking multiple shows together, making it premature to read the smaller capacity as straightforward proof of declining popularity. The discussion branched out from there, with some arguing that Rina Ise’s individual popularity should be considered separately from the group’s overall popularity, while others noted a possible connection to Juice=Juice’s Kawashima using the same venue around the same time — the debate never moved past speculation.
*This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Rina Ise’s Birthday Event Venue Loses 300 Seats: Meguro Persimmon Hall Main Hall [1,200 seats] → Hulic Hall Tokyo [900 seats].”
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