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The story
The government has presented a reference proposal to ruling and opposition parties on a new “income-linked benefit,” being considered alongside a consumption tax cut on food and beverages. Under the estimate, roughly 20 million people would be eligible, assuming an income cap in the ¥3 million range, and the preliminary rollout in fiscal 2027–28 would work out to an average of about ¥30,000 per person on a simple calculation basis. However, the payout is designed to rise or fall depending on income, so it won’t be a flat amount for everyone. On the forum, shocked reactions to “20 million people earning ¥3 million or less” collided with comments from rural residents noting that “even full-time work only gets you ¥2.7 million,” and opinions split over where exactly the line for "low income" should be drawn.
Regarding the new income-linked benefit the government plans to introduce alongside the consumption tax cut on food and beverages, the government has presented a reference proposal on eligibility to the ruling and opposition parties.
The proposal assumes roughly 20 million eligible recipients, with an estimated income cap in the ¥3 million range.
On a simple calculation, the payout during the preliminary rollout in fiscal 2027–28 would average about ¥30,000 per person. However, the system is designed so the amount rises or falls depending on income, meaning the actual payout won’t be uniform.
Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here
What people said
That's because it includes pension recipients ＼(^o^)／
Japan never riots, so they really take us for granted.
Isn't this aimed at low-income people in the countryside who barely get by even working full-time?
I work full-time and make ¥2.7 million. In a city in the Tohoku region.
Apparently that's 30% of all workers. No wonder Japan's getting poorer.
Those must be people who aren't working full-time.
If you check the job listings at rural Hello Work (job centers), you'll see that's normal even for full-time jobs.
I'm full-time and make ¥2.7 million. Probably because no bonus is just the norm in regional cities.
20 million out of a workforce of 60 million earning ¥3 million or less — yeah, this country really is finished.
Must be a lie. According to the National Personnel Authority (which sets civil servant pay), the average private-sector salary is ¥7.5 million. And to "correct the disparity," civil servant pay has risen for five straight years ＼(^o^)／
This is way too much "Poverty Japan"…
But according to the National Personnel Authority's survey, Japan's average annual income is ¥6.5 million.
No way that covers rising prices.
My rent already went up ¥2,000 a month at renewal.
That's lunch-and-a-drink money (´･ω･｀)
Just give us ¥30,000 a month.
They get hammered with income tax.
Then just don't work.
Fine as a starting point, I guess.
As long as they eventually extend it to under ¥8 million ( ᐛ )و
Read it carefully, really carefully — even if the amount goes up, "the number of people eligible stays the same"?
>At the Lower House Budget Committee on the 14th, Prime Minister Sanae Takaichi explained that overseas countries with similar benefit systems cover about 30% of workers. She added that, "just as a reference," applying that to Japan's roughly 60 million workers would mean about 20 million people eligible. Based on this, the government presented a reference proposal to the ruling and opposition parties using that estimate.
>The plan is to secure a permanent funding source starting in fiscal 2029 and increase the payout for full-scale implementation.
I am working hard. But if it's not there, it's not there — no bonus either.
That's just how it is in regional cities.
No bonus, but the pay is still pretty decent.
That's living large.
With ¥5 million each, a couple would hit a combined ¥10 million — "Power Couple" territory, no?
If you're single, that's basically royalty.
With one kid, it's manageable.
With two kids, it gets tight.
Something like that.
¥6 million is middle income.
¥10 million and up is high income.
If you're taking home ¥200,000 in the countryside, you can easily afford a new-build house and an Alphard minivan on a balloon lease.
A new-build is absolutely out of reach.
A 30-to-40-year-old used 3LDK condo, maybe, plus the Alphard on a balloon lease.
Don't underestimate the countryside — sure, rent and local vegetables are cheap, but a car is mandatory and gas stations charge a premium. If you've got your parents' land you can build a house, and if your wife also earns ¥100,000 a month, an Alphard is within reach.
If it's a system that stays entirely within the employed population, they could just… not collect the taxes and social insurance premiums in the first place.
What on earth has the government been discussing in meetings this whole past year?
Sounds like all they're producing today is fraud and losses.
Working doesn't automatically make you a saint, you know?
Those guys think if they just hand out cash, people will do what they're told.
Background and Key Points of This Discussion
This new benefit is being considered as a package with the consumption tax cut on food and beverages, with a preliminary payout planned for fiscal 2027–28, followed by full-scale implementation and an increased payout from fiscal 2029 onward once a permanent funding source is secured. The basis for the 20-million-person figure comes from a number Prime Minister Takaichi cited in the Diet — that overseas countries with similar benefit systems cover about 30% of workers — applied to Japan’s roughly 60-million-strong workforce; it is not a figure drawn directly from an actual income distribution survey. The thread split over how to evaluate the “¥3 million a year” threshold: some argued that by urban standards this counts as genuine hardship, while others testified that even full-time regular employees in regional areas earn only around ¥2.7 million, highlighting just how large the regional gap is. It’s also easy to overlook that the ¥30,000-a-year figure is just a simple average for the preliminary rollout, and the plan assumes the payout will increase once full implementation begins.
※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “Preliminary Rollout in FY2027–28: New “Income-Linked Benefit” Covering 20 Million People, Income Cap ¥3 Million — Government Presents as “Reference”“.
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