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On the 16th, the Tokyo Metropolitan Personnel Commission recommended raising civil servants’ monthly salaries by 3.30% and bonuses by 0.10 months’ pay. If implemented, it would mark the fifth consecutive year of increases, bringing average annual pay to ¥7.61 million, bonuses to 5 months’ pay, and the starting salary for 22-year-old university graduates above ¥300,000. On 5ch, criticism that “these are already stable jobs — why raise pay at all?” clashed with defenses arguing that “private-sector pay in Tokyo is already high, so civil servant pay has to rise too in order to attract decent talent.” The discussion spread in various directions, including comparisons with national civil servants’ starting salaries and complaints about the inefficiency of Tokyo city workers’ jobs.
Tokyo Metropolitan Government employees’ salaries and bonuses are set to rise for the fifth consecutive year.
Starting salaries will also top ¥300,000.
On the 16th, the Tokyo Metropolitan Personnel Commission recommended raising civil servants’ monthly salaries by 3.30% and bonuses by 0.10 months’ pay.
Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here
What people said
In exchange for that stability, I think average pay is plenty.
Civil servant pay should reflect the real state of the country.
The Ministry of Finance and the National Personnel Authority probably think tax money belongs to civil servants.
They're banned from taking side jobs — cut them some slack
Private-sector pay in Tokyo is high, so if they don't raise civil servant pay too, no decent people will apply
They get automatic salary and bonus raises without doing anything
Out in the countryside, a civil servant who's already inherited a house, land, and assets from their parents is basically unbeatable
People who are naturally talented probably find it frustrating, but truly talented people are rare, and even the ones who are get gradually tamed over time
Must be nice for young people — they can become civil servants easily these days.
For hiring aimed at the "lost generation" (job seekers during Japan's 1990s–2000s employment freeze), the competition rate was dozens-to-one and almost nobody got in
They have to pay that much now or nobody will apply.
They're not even producing results that would justify a bonus in the first place — it's weird they get a bonus at all
Do that and the retirement payout ends up being enormous
Though nobody would, lol
Just set it to the national average. As for "results," only bump civil servant pay at the very end, once ordinary people's lives have actually improved
For the fiscal-year contract staff, isn't it already basically minimum wage? That might be fine as is
That's wild. Even the starting salary alone is like ¥100,000 higher than national civil servants, isn't it?
National civil servants are around ¥270,000 now too
I think it'd be fine to allow side jobs in exchange for setting pay to match small and mid-sized businesses
That's just asking for all kinds of misconduct
They're basically out to kill Japanese industry at this point. The resentment of bubble-era job-market "losers" who ended up as civil servants runs deep.
Minimum wage is also at a record high.
Real wages have risen for 8 straight months.
Pay growth is outpacing inflation, so we're doing fine.
Stocks are great too — the Nikkei is past 70,000.
It just crashed down into the 65,000 range, you know. There are a lot of liars on 5ch, so be careful — plenty of old folks here take anything at face value.
Even if a major earthquake hits, you'd have to set up the shelter yourself, right? Everyone's worried about their own family too.
Non-regular staff are plenty for civil servant jobs. The volunteer fire corps that did great work during the earthquake are unpaid community volunteers anyway.
If anything, things would run more smoothly if left to the private sector
Background and key points of this discussion
Prefectural and metropolitan civil servant salaries are reviewed every year through a system called the “Personnel Commission recommendation.” Under the Local Public Service Act, the Personnel Commission surveys private-sector pay and then recommends adjustments to the assembly and governor — this year’s recommendation is part of that same process. It’s easy to overlook that a recommendation is just that, a recommendation, and that an actual pay change still requires an ordinance amendment by the Tokyo Metropolitan Assembly. The thread split into two camps: criticism questioning whether civil servants, who already have stable positions, need a raise at all, and defenses arguing that since private-sector pay in Tokyo is already high, civil servant pay has to rise in tandem to secure talent. Comparisons with national civil servants’ (“kokka ippan”) starting salaries also came up, revealing how civil servant pay varies by region and hiring track.
*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Flash+) thread “Tokyo Metropolitan Government employee salaries and bonuses rise for 5th straight year — average ¥7.61 million, 5 months’ bonus, starting salary for 22-year-old grads tops ¥300,000“.
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