Daisuke Hori has long been known as an advocate for the “short sleeper” method, coaching people to function on minimal sleep — but this time he’s done a complete about-face, rolling out a ¥160,000-a-month “quality sleep” improvement program. Reaction on 5ch was swift distrust toward a system charging steep fees without any scientific backing, with many pointing out it’s overpriced compared to hiring a professional personal trainer or gym membership. There’s also been no update on the previously mentioned investigations by the government and police, and concerns about refund policies became a talking point too.
What people said
4AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:06
Just exercise moderately, eat until you're about 80% full, cut out the alcohol, and go to sleep — isn't that enough?
5AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:06
Guess the whole 'short sleeper' thing never happened
6AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:06
His 'short sleeper' title has quietly disappeared
12AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:10
Anyone dumb enough to fall for this is beyond saving
14AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:11
Re: #1
Why'd he pivot away from the short-sleep thing? And this program launching in October already has a ton of glowing testimonials somehow
15AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:11
Just send them camping out in the wilderness for like 3 days — they'll pass out on their own
16AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:11
'A ton of glowing testimonials'?
Sorry, but is this actually a case for JARO? (Japan's ad watchdog)
19AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:12
Sleep probably does feel amazing after a week of nonstop livestreaming
20AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:13
His whole method is just 'stretch, lift some weights, set up your bedroom properly, watch what you eat' — generic advice you'd find in any random self-help book. If you're going to pay ¥160,000 a month, you'd be better off just spending it on a gym membership, a personal trainer, decent bedding, and food.
23AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:14
No way he's ever issuing refunds. Also, you'd think some YouTuber would've signed up just to file a complaint on camera by now, but nobody's done it
47AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:28
Re: #23
Everyone just wants to sleep
26AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:14
No scientific basis whatsoever, just personal anecdotes, and people still sign up for this
30AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:15
Gotta admit he did seem to fall asleep fast. Not many people knock out that quickly from a massage
31AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:15
If people are still falling for this, they're probably just fans, and if they genuinely think it works, something's wrong with their head — either way, fine by me
32AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:16
People are seriously dropping over ¥160,000 just to sleep?
76AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:51
Re: #32
You'd be better off spending that money on high-end bedding
33AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:17
I want them to send in Professor Yanagisawa and Mikiya Takasu to check this out (a sleep researcher and a cosmetic-surgeon YouTuber, both known for fact-checking dubious health claims)
34AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:18
Won't a bunch of YouTubers show up just to farm content off this?
35AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:19
Apparently the selling point is doing strength training and stretching together with him. You'd honestly be way better off just going to a proper personal-training gym
40AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:22
Re: #35
Apparently his rate is the same as legendary bodybuilder Hidetada Yamagishi's personal training, lol. That's straight-up disrespectful
36AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:19
You'd be better off just asking Lasker Award-winning Professor Yanagisawa instead of this guy
37AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:20
Sounds like an undercover reporter has already made contact with him. Bet some interesting stuff comes out of this
42AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:23
He'll probably turn around and claim refund requests need proof that nothing improved
43AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:26
In his sit-down with Mikiya Takasu before the challenge, he was irritable the whole time — which just ended up highlighting how professionally Takasu handled it as a YouTuber
57AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:40
Re: #43
Hori did a complete 180 into attack mode right after the livestream, lol
44AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:26
Push yourself to the absolute limit of staying awake, and blissful sleep will follow — what a genius, noticing something nobody else ever thought of
50AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:31
Re: #44
There's actually data showing you sleep more soundly if you stay up later — like, going to bed after midnight beats forcing yourself to sleep at 9pm when you can't
78AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:53
Even checking the official site, I have zero idea what this program actually involves. People actually pay money for this?
83AnonymousSep 25, 2026 16:56
Re: #78
There are videos from people who took his course 5 to 7 years ago describing what it actually involved
98AnonymousSep 25, 2026 17:16
Whatever happened to that whole 'government and police are investigating' thing he was talking about?
99AnonymousSep 25, 2026 17:17
Re: #98
That's some real 'Asakura Miku' behavior (a slang nod to a public figure known for making bold claims that fizzle out)
Background and Key Points of This Story
Daisuke Hori previously built a following as an instructor for the “short sleeper” method (training people to get by on very little sleep), a practice that repeatedly drew skepticism over its effectiveness and lack of evidence. The “quality sleep” program now making waves reads almost like the opposite approach, offering standard lifestyle-improvement guidance — stretching, diet management, optimizing your bedroom environment — for a steep monthly fee. The thread’s focus centered on comparing the ¥160,000 price tag to what a professional bodybuilder charges for personal training, alongside skepticism toward guidance based on anecdotal testimonials rather than scientific verification. That said, some commenters admitted the massage techniques themselves seemed to have some real effect, so opinions were mixed. Worth noting: the earlier claims about a “government and police investigation” have no confirmed follow-up here, so they remain an unverified rumor.
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