On Hello! Project’s board on 5ch, it became a hot topic that general ticket sales for Angerme’s Osaka concert had ended while seats on the first floor remained unsold. Commenters pointed to concrete factors: the recent graduation announcement of a member who had been with the group until just recently failed to boost attendance, the seating capacity of the venue, Orix Theater, and the gap in drawing power compared to sister group Juice=Juice. Opinions split between the view that “female fans are fickle, and it’s male fans who stick around until the end” and the view that “management was unreasonable to book three shows when the group has no members from Osaka” — disagreeing over whether to blame fan behavior or the agency’s decisions.
What people said
1AnonymousSep 16, 2026 17:59
Yikes, they're really unpopular
2AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:01
Turns out female fans were just locusts (they swarm in, then bail)
In the end it's the male fans who stick around till the end
10AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:14
Re: #2
Female fans tend to follow individual members, not the group
49AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:25
Re: #2
But apparently the guys aren't into them either
3AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:01
Wait… there are still 4 more Osaka shows left…
4AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:02
Spring shows were empty too, so this was expected
7AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:09
Well yeah, filling Castle Hall (Osaka-jo Hall) is tough
8AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:12
'Offshore Company' (sarcastic nickname for the agency) should worry about the fading Juice=Juice instead
9AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:13
Guess the graduation of the unpopular Hashisako alone wasn't enough to move tickets
13AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:14
A graduation announcement usually boosts ticket sales even outside the member's hometown shows, but Hashisako has so few fans it didn't move the needle at all
20AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:17
That's harsh — Hashisako's a 10-year Hello! Project veteran, and her graduation meant nothing?
21AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:17
Orix Theater is bigger than people think, you know
32AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:21
Re: #21
If they can't even fill the first floor at Orix, they shouldn't play Osaka again
22AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:18
Meanwhile Juice=Juice is out touring tiny halls in the middle of nowhere
23AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:18
Nagano's supposedly their most popular stop, right?
That's rough
24AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:18
This is their first time hitting Kansai on this tour, right?
If the show's good, repeat customers should follow
25AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:18
Not so much female wota as Johnny's fans (fans of male idol groups)
No point pandering to people who never planned on sticking around in the first place
28AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:19
The agency is a bigger turn-off than they realize
33AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:21
At this rate, might as well add Shimoigaya to the graduation list too (sarcastic — another Angerme member)
37AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:22
Let's get Rosie to guest too (nickname of a Hello! Project-affiliated figure)
38AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:22
Three Osaka shows was already a stretch
Just paper over it with something like Roze Theater or a venue out in Kiryu
43AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:24
Cold, considering she's Take-chan's (a Hello! Project staff/coach nickname) favorite protégée and she's graduating
44AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:24
"Hope you have a lonely Christmas all by yourself ^^"
↑ Sacrificing some guy who trolls and mocks fans like that isn't going to fix ticket sales lolololol
45AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:24
Exactly
What's the guy who's always posting "Angerme is better than Juice, blah blah blah"
doing at a time like this?
47AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:25
Booking 3 shows in Osaka with zero members actually from Osaka is just insane
48AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:25
If they can't even fill Osaka
are the regional shows going to be okay?
51AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:26
Re: #48
No way they're fine
53AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:27
Sorry, but even the way their blog posts are written makes me want to root for Juice=Juice instead
61AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:30
The bigger problem isn't that Angerme's own fans are dwindling — it's that DDs (fans who like any idol, loyal to no one group) are avoiding them
62AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:31
Re: #61
The DDs are all obsessed with Juice=Juice
67AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:32
Re: #61
Exactly how many Angerme fans do you think exist in your head? lol
63AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:31
The agency needs to admit they got Angerme's marketing wrong
66AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:31
Re: #62
Juice=Juice sold too well, so now they're putting their effort elsewhere
69AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:33
Seriously, why did they let this group hog the big venues over Juice=Juice…
Is the agency out of its mind…
This has gotta be a straight-up loss
71AnonymousSep 16, 2026 18:34
Re: #69
Juice=Juice's tour capacity is actually bigger, so don't complain
The only ones with room to complain are Tsubaki Factory, BEYOOOOONDS, and OCHA NORMA
Background and Points of Debate
Angerme is a mid-tier group within Hello! Project, and the scale of tour venues is decided by the agency based on the group’s drawing power. It’s worth noting that the “popular/unpopular” or “disliked” judgments about specific members raised in the thread are purely speculation on an anonymous message board, not officially released figures or a reflection of the member’s actual standing. Likewise, the notion that “female fans are fickle while male fans stick around till the end” is an old piece of received wisdom among idol fandoms, but it’s an impression rather than something backed by hard data. On the other hand, how to judge the agency’s choices on venue capacity and number of shows is a separate question from raw attendance figures, and opinions diverged sharply on that point — the thread’s defining feature is this interplay between theories about fan temperament and theories about the group’s management strategy.
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