Over 50% of Men Under 30 Have ‘Zero Dating Experience’ — 5ch Fires Back: ‘Normal Guys Date and Marry Just Fine’

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Marriage researcher Kazuhisa Arakawa, writing for Toyo Keizai Online, presented data showing that more than half of men under 30 have zero romantic experience, and explored why young people are “canceling” not just marriage, but romance itself. When the article was reposted to 5ch’s News Express+ board, it drew a wide range of responses — skepticism about the statistics, pushback along the lines of “normal guys who go to college and get jobs date and marry just fine,” and personal anecdotes touching on how hard it is to confess your feelings and the financial risks of divorce. Since romantic experience varies so much from person to person, the thread ended up dominated by posters pointing out the gap between the statistics and their own lived experience.

More Than 50% of Men Under 30 Have “Zero Romantic Experience”… The Real Reason Young People Are “Canceling” Not Just Marriage, But Romance Itself | Toyo Keizai Online

Published: 2026/09/10 07:45

Kazuhisa Arakawa — Marriage/Singles Researcher, Columnist

Source: toyokeizai.net / Read the original article here

What people said

2AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:17
Genuine question for anyone who actually knows this stuff —
with the falling birthrate, will small and mid-size sash (window/door frame) manufacturers in rural areas lose business? Go under?
270AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:10
Re: #2
Turns out the sash guy was married (^▽^)/
8AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:21
Men keep drifting further and further away from Japanese women.
Can't be helped anymore. That's just the tide of the times.
90AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:34
Re: #8
You seriously believe that?
If you just go to college and have a normal job, you date and get married as a matter of course.
The only ones with zero dating experience around me are creepy otaku with no social skills.
10AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:22
Genuine question for anyone who really knows this stuff — if you had to compare it to Tokimeki Tonight (a classic shoujo romance anime), what part of the story would this be????
275AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:11
Re: #10
Physics-wise, it's around the point where Ranze Etou becomes one vertex of the love triangle.
11AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:22
Told a student part-timer at work that having zero dating experience puts him in the same boat as us middle-aged guys —
he looked pretty annoyed.
16AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:24
'Marriage/singles researcher' —
there really is a job for everyone, huh.
29AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:26
Re: #16
Studying singlehood is basically like studying insects, I guess.
17AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:24
I mean, getting a signed consent form is a pretty high bar these days
— the difficulty level is nothing like it used to be.
30AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:26
Re: #17
A consent form isn't even reliable to begin with.
If milady later claims 'I was forced to sign it!', it's basically void anyway.
22AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:24
You should get some dating experience while you're young. A woman's market value drops with age, but her standards rise in inverse proportion. Back in school she'd be thrilled if you just treated her to McDonald's or Saizeriya, but once she's an adult she gets mad unless you take her somewhere expensive.
65AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:31
Re: #22
Do you get why she gets mad?
169AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:49
Re: #65
Because she makes it blatantly obvious she's angry.
197AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:54
Re: #65
Oh, misread that — you meant the reason. She probably feels like she's being seen as cheap, or treated carelessly.
23AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:24
Plenty of the world's famous artists were single too.
28AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:26
Marriage and raising kids are both great things, honestly.
You really feel your own values shift.
Encountering different values is basically the essence of entertainment — your whole life turns into entertainment.
40AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:27
Re: #28
That's such an extrovert's way of thinking.
47AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:28
Re: #28
Entertainment you can't reset must get exhausting though.
133AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:42
Women accept it when they like the guy, but if he's unattractive it's suddenly 'confession harassment' or he gets treated like a stalker.

I'm done with this.
258AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:07
Re: #133
Confessing out of nowhere in real life just makes you a boundary-ignoring weirdo.
When an average person copies the moves of some high-spec hot guy or beautiful heroine from a romcom manga, of course they get treated like a boundary-ignoring weirdo in real life — that's fiction, not reality.

Normally, before confessing, you invite her to a private one-on-one meal or outing first, to feel out whether there's any interest.
If she keeps turning you down — even with a smile, even citing 'bad timing' — that means there's no interest.

If there IS interest, even when she says 'not that day,' she'll come back with 'but how about this day?' and name a specific date herself so she doesn't lose the chance.

A real-life confession is something you only attempt after you've built up a relationship of going to private one-on-one meals or outings together several times.
154AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:47
I know a guy who's a virgin at 52 — it's genuinely tragic.
158AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:47
Re: #154
He was just made to believe that's how it has to be.
Poor guy.
199AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:54
Re: #154
How did you even find out he's a virgin?
219AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:58
There are 20 people.
10 of them are 180cm.
10 of them are 160cm.
What's the average height?
How many people are exactly average height?
229AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:00
Re: #219

340cm! All 20 of them! ^q^ (joking — adding the heights instead of averaging them)
231AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:00
Re: #219
That's not a normal distribution though.
226AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:59
There's also the risk of losing your own assets to an early divorce or a late-in-life ('mature') divorce.
240AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:02
Re: #226
Late-life divorce is brutal.
Your investment gains get taken, half your pension gets taken.
Your severance pay gets cleaned out too.
It's bad enough that there are scumbag lawyers out there literally telling wives,
'Divorce him before he spends his severance pay, so you can grab your full share of it' — lol.
257AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:06
Re: #226
That kind of risk has really come to the forefront now —
put up with the marriage, finish having kids, then get tossed aside.

Background and Key Points of This Discussion

Worth keeping in mind as context: Kazuhisa Arakawa is a marriage/singles researcher who has been consistently putting out commentary on this exact theme. The rise in the rate of zero romantic experience has itself been flagged periodically in official statistics too, such as the government’s Basic Survey on Birth Trends, and this Toyo Keizai piece appears to be part of that ongoing narrative. Where the thread split was between posters who blame the lack of experience on “young people’s own passivity” and those who point to “environmental factors, like the difficulty of confessing feelings or shifting expectations from women.” Several posts also raised worries about asset division and severance pay in divorce — a point that isn’t obvious from the original article alone, showing how the conversation about avoiding romance runs straight into wariness about marriage itself. What exactly “zero romantic experience” means in the statistics was never pinned down in the thread, and that ambiguity may be part of what’s driving the gap between the numbers and people’s gut sense of reality.

※This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “More Than 50% of Men Under 30 Have “Zero Romantic Experience”… The Real Reason Young People Are Canceling Not Just Marriage, But Romance Itself.”

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