Folk singer Matsuyama Chiharu reveals first grandchild’s name is “Selen” — “Ordinary names are disappearing” comment sparks reaction

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Folk singer Matsuyama Chiharu (70) revealed on his radio show broadcast September 6 that his first grandchild’s name is “Selen.” Matsuyama reportedly also remarked, “Ordinary names really are disappearing, aren’t they.” On 5channel, the comment set off a wave of speculation about the origin of the name “Selen,” with users debating whether it derives from “Selene,” the Greek word for “moon,” or evokes the chemical element selenium (atomic number 34). The thread turned into more of an etymology discussion than a debate over the naming choice itself. Some also pointed out that what counts as an “ordinary” name shifts with each generation, noting that old-fashioned women’s names like “Matsu” and “Tome” would seem unusual today.

September 7, 2026, 12:30 PM

Folk singer Matsuyama Chiharu (70) appeared live on FM NACK5’s “Matsuyama Chiharu ON THE RADIO” (Sundays at 9 PM) on the 6th, where a moment arose involving his reaction to a listener’s email.

During the live broadcast, Matsuyama read out several listener emails. In this episode, he reacted to one from a listener going by “Miyuto.” “Miyuto… huh. That’s another unusual name,” he said thoughtfully.

Source: news.livedoor.com / Read the original article here

What people said

8AnonymousSep 7, 2026 14:28
What's the origin of 'Selen' anyway?
Can't even tell if it's a boy's or girl's name
11AnonymousSep 7, 2026 14:29
Maybe it's from "Siren" (セイレーン)?
39AnonymousSep 7, 2026 14:55
Re: #11
It's been trending lately because of the Chiikawa movie
50AnonymousSep 7, 2026 15:14
Re: #11
Same thought lol
I like Chiikawa but this one's kind of a stretch…
14AnonymousSep 7, 2026 14:30
Re: #1
If some other old man's grandkid were named "Selen," this guy would probably trash the name lol
70AnonymousSep 7, 2026 16:04
Re: #14
He's not exactly praising it either
16AnonymousSep 7, 2026 14:31
Is any name besides Selen really that weird?
33AnonymousSep 7, 2026 14:49
Re: #16
Gen's probably the only normal-sounding one
Miyuto sounds like "mute," Kouya brings to mind "wasteland,"
and Aito sounds uncomfortably close to 愛人 ("aijin," meaning "mistress")…
30AnonymousSep 7, 2026 14:44
Reminds me of old selenium photoconductor drums (used in copiers)
They're toxic, so it has a negative image
31AnonymousSep 7, 2026 14:44
Re: #13
Tellurium = Earth (from "tellus")
Selenium = Moon (from "selene")

That's the etymology
32AnonymousSep 7, 2026 14:46
Once "kirakira" (flashy, unconventional) names become the norm,
names chosen just for how they sound might start to look silly,
so there's a chance things swing back
toward names that actually mean something
34AnonymousSep 7, 2026 14:52
>"Selen (Selene / Selena / Seren)" derives from the Greek word meaning "moon."
38AnonymousSep 7, 2026 14:55
"Kouya" isn't so bad either — it can also be written with kanji like 幸也 ("happiness") or 功哉 ("achievement")
66AnonymousSep 7, 2026 15:54
Re: #38
They're literally saying Kouya and Gen sound normal
40AnonymousSep 7, 2026 14:56
As long as it's not some bizarre kanji substitution, it should be fine
41AnonymousSep 7, 2026 14:57
Selenium is actually a supplement ingredient too, you know
42AnonymousSep 7, 2026 15:00
What happens when people start calling him "Se-san"?
Though the parents probably have zero idea it's also a chemical symbol lol
44AnonymousSep 7, 2026 15:03
Atomic number 34 —
just remember it as "Saegusa" (a common mnemonic wordplay for the number)
49AnonymousSep 7, 2026 15:13
When you buy zinc supplements, selenium is often included too
51AnonymousSep 7, 2026 15:16
From the "Idiot Championship" segment on Mecha-Ike (a TV variety show):

Q: "What's the name of comedian Nishikawa Kiyoshi's wife?"
Kawaei: "Heron" (the correct answer was "Helen")
81AnonymousSep 7, 2026 16:28
Re: #51
Don't cry, Heron
53AnonymousSep 7, 2026 15:22
Watching high school soccer matches, you sometimes see players who appear to have African heritage.
Some have names mixing kanji and katakana, while others have traditional Japanese names like "Yamada Tarou" (Japan's equivalent of "John Doe")
56AnonymousSep 7, 2026 15:24
Old cameras used to have selenium-cell light meters, so maybe the parent's a camera enthusiast
My Olympus Pen EE still shows the red warning flag — does that mean the meter's still alive?
57AnonymousSep 7, 2026 15:28
What even counts as an "ordinary" name anyway?
Matsuyama Chiharu's parents' generation probably had names like Tazu, Sue, Kin, or Gin
64AnonymousSep 7, 2026 15:48
Japanese women's names have always been kind of thrown together.
Even prewar names like "Tome" and "Matsu" were just picked casually.
So postwar names written with fancy kanji like 万梨阿 ("Marina") or 樹里亜奈 ("Juriana") aren't really surprising either.
Naming girls doesn't need to be taken that seriously.
65AnonymousSep 7, 2026 15:51
What's interesting is that this "girls' names are kind of an afterthought" culture shows up worldwide,
which ultimately just proves human history has been a male-dominated society
67AnonymousSep 7, 2026 15:56
Isn't "Chiharu" itself an unusual name for his generation?
71AnonymousSep 7, 2026 16:07
Re: #67
He's said he hated always getting grouped with the girls on class rosters because of it

Background and Key Points of This Topic

In Japanese, “Selen” refers to the chemical element selenium (atomic number 34, also known as an antioxidant supplement ingredient), but overseas it’s also a common given name derived from Selene, the Greek goddess of the moon — and the thread’s etymology debate reflects that dual meaning. What counts as an “ordinary” name has shifted dramatically over time: names like “Tome,” “Matsu,” and “Kin” were mainstream from the Meiji through Showa eras, while in recent years naming trends have favored the sound of a name over the meaning of its kanji. The thread showed a mix of reactions — some pointed out the irony that Matsuyama himself would likely have criticized the name had it belonged to someone else’s grandchild, while others took a more positive view of naming diversity. The original article also introduces several other children’s names read out by listeners that Matsuyama reacted to on air (such as Kouya, Gen, and Miyuto), and the thread’s discussion unfolds partly in comparison to those names.

*This article is compiled as an excerpt/summary from the 5channel (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “Matsuyama Chiharu reveals first grandchild’s name: “My grandkid is named ‘Selen’” / “Ordinary names really are disappearing”.”

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