Is Dropping Out of University the Same as a High School Diploma? HR Workers Can’t Agree

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The story

Someone introduces themselves as “a dropout of University X,” and gets the reply: “So basically you’re just a high school grad.” That framing touched off a debate on 5channel’s Nanidemo Jikkyo G board (a general-discussion board on 5ch, the huge Japanese forum network formerly known as 2channel). Does dropping out of a prestigious university actually rate higher than a high school diploma — or does it just make you look like “someone who can’t see things through to the end”? Several posters claiming to work in HR weighed in, and opinion split right down the middle. The thread also raised examples of celebrities who call themselves “University X dropouts” without ever being treated as merely high-school-educated, plus claims that correspondence universities are actually harder to graduate from than regular ones — turning into a wider conversation about the gap between how people report their education and what that really means.

What people said

1AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:14
Why get so mad about it? Why can't you just admit you're a high school grad?
4AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:21
If you were the one hiring, which would you pick — a high school grad, or someone who dropped out of a famous university?
11AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:29
Re: #4
I assume you mean a high school grad who could've gotten into that famous university anyway, right? Then obviously the high school grad.
20AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:35
Re: #4
In Japan pretty much anyone who gets admitted can graduate — so dropping out at all means something pretty serious happened.
5AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:21
It's like a half-Filipino person insisting they're 'Spanish' instead (i.e., claiming the more impressive-sounding half of your background).
27AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:41
Re: #5
I mean, it's not technically wrong though?
9AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:28
I dropped out of Toyo University (a well-known mid-tier private school in Tokyo) — so what does that make me?
40AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:46
Re: #9
Basically just a high school grad.
13AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:31
I get it if it's for family reasons, but isn't it a mark against you if people assume you're someone who can't see things through to the end? Getting hired isn't the finish line either.
28AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:42
Re: #13
Between a University of Tokyo (Todai) dropout and a Nihon University graduate, the Todai dropout gets rated higher.
62AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:57
Re: #13 Re: #16
Yeah, fair — it does mean the guy couldn't manage to graduate even after years of trying, and Japanese universities are easy to graduate from to begin with.
71AnonymousSep 5, 2026 17:02
Re: #13
Back in Horiemon's generation (Takafumi Horie, the famous entrepreneur and Todai dropout), maybe there was this idea that quitting school to start a company while still enrolled was 'cool.' Dunno though.
16AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:32
Speaking as someone in HR: unless it's a seriously elite school, dropouts tend to have a habit of running away from things, so we don't want to hire them.
21AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:38
I know a dropout who eventually finished his degree through the Open University of Japan (a distance-learning school). I always think — it definitely would've been easier just to stay enrolled the first time.
29AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:42
Re: #21
I wonder how correspondence universities are these days. Couldn't you breeze through now with AI?
33AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:44
Re: #21
Apparently graduating from a correspondence program is insanely hard. Even Keio (one of Japan's top private universities) has a correspondence division anyone can join, but almost nobody actually manages to graduate. So actually finishing one is supposedly rated pretty highly.
22AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:39
I mean, Tamori (the famous longtime TV host) dropped out of Waseda and nobody treats him as 'just a high school grad.' Same with Ueda and Arita from the comedy duo Cream — one's a Waseda dropout, the other's from Rikkyo — neither gets written off as high-school-only either.
35AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:45
Re: #22
In Japan, if you get in you can graduate — and for Waseda's Literature department specifically, I've heard actually graduating is considered the 'uncool' option.
25AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:40
I graduated from a correspondence high school, so it's hard for me to even claim 'regular' high school grad status.
36AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:45
Re: #25
No, you definitely can claim it.
39AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:46
Re: #25
You saw a correspondence program through to the end — hold your head up.
31AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:43
I work in HR — dropping out is usually for a negative reason, so it tends to rate lower than just being a high school grad.
34AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:45
Re: #31
I knew that without you saying it, but it still stings.
38AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:46
Re: #36
No, I don't think that really counts as a proper high school diploma.
44AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:48
Re: #38
Most criminals out there are high school grads too — are you saying you're ranking below even that?
41AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:47
Re: #34
I'm in HR too — dropouts get rated highly where I work.
45AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:48
Re: #41
Not buying it from you — of course a dropout would tell a lie that gets exposed instantly.
70AnonymousSep 5, 2026 17:02
Honestly, dropping out might be worse. Having your parents pay for it and then just giving up partway through — no company wants that, and it makes you wonder about the person's character too.
73AnonymousSep 5, 2026 17:03
Re: #70
Yeah, it's a character red flag.
76AnonymousSep 5, 2026 17:08
Re: #70
…Can't argue with that.
108AnonymousSep 5, 2026 17:27
Re: #89
The reason he's at Nihon University is that he already 'ran away' once, from somewhere harder.
109AnonymousSep 5, 2026 17:27
As OP (イッチ, thread-starter slang), let me judge the exchange between ID:KNifECqh0 and ID:9M8EW41m0 — ID:KNifECqh0 wins.
113AnonymousSep 5, 2026 17:28
Re: #108
By that logic, isn't dropping out itself also 'running away'?
125AnonymousSep 5, 2026 17:32
Re: #120
Does Todai even have athletic-recommendation admissions? That's my point.
Re: #109 Re: #113
Nichidai fans getting salty lol
129AnonymousSep 5, 2026 17:35
Re: #125
What's salty about it? My post at Re: #109 was just me, as OP, judging the argument between you two.
116AnonymousSep 5, 2026 17:29
Re: #100
You're supposed to get into university on brains. Athletic-recommendation admissions don't count — that's just a walking billboard with a high school diploma.
120AnonymousSep 5, 2026 17:30
Re: #116
That's not necessarily true. If that were the case, why would recommendation admissions even exist?

Background and Key Points of Debate

Japanese universities are widely seen as far more selective at the entrance-exam stage than at graduation, meaning dropping out doesn’t require a scandal or financial hardship — it can simply happen. That’s likely why, even among HR professionals, how a dropout gets weighed varies so widely depending on the prestige of the school and how easy the reason for leaving is to explain away. The thread surfaced two competing views side by side — “a dropout from an elite university rates higher than a high school grad” versus “dropping out signals a habit of running away and rates lower” — highlighting that there’s no shared standard. It’s also probably not widely known outside Japan that correspondence (distance-learning) universities are considered harder to actually graduate from than in-person ones. And when a celebrity describes themselves as a “University X dropout,” that isn’t résumé padding — they’re simply stating the fact that they enrolled and later left — though that distinction is easy to lose track of in debates like this one.

※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Nanidemo Jikkyo G) thread “Dropout: ‘I dropped out of University X.’ Me: ‘Oh, so you’re a high school grad.’ Dropout: ‘No! I dropped out!’ …I mean, come on.”

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