Tatsunami Kazuyoshi Slams Excessive Manager-Bashing — 5ch: “Results Are on the Manager”

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The story

Former Chunichi Dragons manager Kazuyoshi Tatsunami (57) appeared as a guest on Nippon Broadcasting’s “Meikyukai Radio” on September 3, and while sharing his thoughts on his successor, manager Kazuki Inoue (55), he criticized the excessive bashing managers face. The backdrop is Chunichi’s continued poor results this season, which have fueled manager-bashing on social media. In the corresponding 5ch thread, opinions split over where responsibility lies — some argued “the manager should bear responsibility for results,” while others countered that “players get just as much flak on social media” and “some teams see results change dramatically with a new manager.”

September 3, 2026, 18:34 | Baseball

Sports Nippon (Sponichi Annex) Reporting Team

Former Chunichi Dragons manager Kazuyoshi Tatsunami (57) appeared as a guest on Nippon Broadcasting’s “Show Up Nighter 60th Anniversary: Meikyukai Radio” (Thursdays, 5:10 p.m.), aired on the 3rd. While sharing his thoughts on his successor, current Chunichi manager Kazuki Inoue (55), he took a moment to criticize the excessive backlash managers face.

Source: sponichi.co.jp / Original article here

What people said

2AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:03
You turned Nemoto into that and you're not taking responsibility for it? (referring to infielder-turned-pitcher Akira Nemoto, whose career path Tatsunami controversially shuffled)
5AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:05
Of course the manager takes the blame —
useless players just get sent down to the farm team.
8AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:05
Ochiai flat-out said wins and losses are on the manager and coaches calling the shots.

Guess that's exactly where the difference shows.
9AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:06
Nah, plenty of guys still want to be manager.
11AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:07
Some teams' results completely flip when the manager changes, though.
12AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:07
Players get absolutely roasted on social media too, you know.
13AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:07
Feels like a manager who always gets blamed for everything is kind of a weak manager.
14AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:08
Even in defeat,
some managers, like Inoue, are still loved.

Honestly,
the way Inoue loses is incredible —
he blows past our wildest expectations lol
15AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:08
Isn't he quietly reaching out to Hashigami behind the scenes? (Hideki Hashigami, a well-known baseball strategist)
22AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:10
Re: #15
My guess is it's actually Kuwata that Chunichi's been quietly courting. (Masumi Kuwata, former ace pitcher turned analyst)
16AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:08
Way too many games lost to bad in-game management this year.
18AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:08
I get players owning responsibility for their plays, but the manager should own responsibility for the results.
19AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:09
Calling it "criticism" — isn't it not even that brutal these days?
Everyone's pretty civil now.
26AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:11
Re: #19
Unlike the old days, online criticism is brutal now.
Guess you just shouldn't look at it.
20AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:09
If gathering good players alone was enough to win, you wouldn't need a manager at all.
21AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:10
Not like two bad managers understanding each other changes anything.
23AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:10
Once you start blaming the players, you might as well replace the manager with AI.
24AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:10
Takes the job of being in charge but doesn't want to take responsibility —
very Japanese, honestly.
27AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:11
Nomura still got praise despite that, so results alone aren't what determines how you're evaluated. (legendary manager Katsuya Nomura)
28AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:11
Only now?
There've probably always been people who didn't want to be manager.
30AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:11
This guy's a total Perfect Liberty case, huh 😉 (PL Gakuen — the famous baseball powerhouse high school Tatsunami came from)
40AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:14
Re: #30
Looks like "no great managers ever come out of PL Gakuen" is about to get confirmed again.
Can Lotte's Saburo break the streak? (Saburo, Lotte Marines manager and fellow PL Gakuen alum)
31AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:11
The manager plays a huge role in player motivation.
32AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:11
Today's players lack the guts to go all out for Tatsunami's sake — that's the problem.
Fighting for your manager —
that's baseball.
33AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:11
Why not just get Ochiai to do it? lol
59AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:18
Re: #33
He's way too old for that now.
These days he's just living it up with his grandkids.
34AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:12
Win or lose, maybe the fans feel like parents watching over an underachieving son.
That's why they don't blow up regardless of the results.
The Carp are the same way, but the big difference is attendance — that's where Chunichi (Chuni-Dora) falls short.
42AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:14
The problem is offers only go to guys who racked up good stats as players.
There must be people who are simply cut out to be managers — think about whether someone has a great baseball mind, not just a great playing record.
82AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:30
Re: #42
But would players even listen to a manager who didn't have a strong playing record?
There's no guarantee a great player becomes a great manager, but a manager's own track record definitely helps when it comes to keeping a team in line.
61AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:19
The ideal is a team that doesn't play just for the paycheck ("zeni-tou" — money-motivated ball) — bad results, but fans still show up.
76AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:26
Re: #61
Front office, absolute geniuses \(^o^)/
65AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:21
With soccer managers, you can see their skill in how they mesh tactics with player ability,
but in baseball, the ultimate strongest lineup is just nine guys who can homer every at-bat —
so where's the room for a manager's skill to even matter? Just being a motivator?
72AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:24
Re: #65
Things like setting defensive positions, converting guys between starter and reliever, and figuring out who to use.
Pitching changes too — screw those up and you're the target of criticism.
74AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:25
Re: #65
The motivator factor is actually huge.
Look at Hoshino at the Beijing Olympics — that fell apart because of it and he got axed. (Senichi Hoshino, Japan's 2008 Olympic baseball manager)
81AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:29
Why do Nagoya folks even go watch the Chuni-Dora?
87AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:32
Re: #81
They win like 1 in every 3 games, so it's basically like pulling a gacha.
94AnonymousSep 3, 2026 19:34
Re: #81
I hear Vantelin Dome has really good access and great AC, so it's perfect for killing time.
Kyocera Dome has just as good access too, but apparently attendance there is lackluster.

Background and Talking Points

How much responsibility for poor results in pro baseball falls on the manager is a debate that resurfaces every year, partly because it’s hard to objectively verify whether in-game decisions were right or wrong. In the thread, the view that “results on the field are the players’ responsibility” sits alongside the view that “the manager should own the outcomes of decisions like personnel use and pitching changes,” making clear this isn’t a case where one side is simply right. Because baseball, unlike soccer, doesn’t tie wins and losses as directly to how a system meshes with player ability, it’s hard to measure exactly how much a manager’s decisions affect results — which is likely why drawing motivation out of players tends to become the de facto yardstick for judging a manager. One point readers can easily get wrong is lumping the intensity of social-media criticism together as “a phenomenon unique to today”: the thread itself shows a range of views, with some commenters saying “criticism online is brutal” and others saying “criticism these days is actually more civil,” suggesting there’s no single consistent take.

*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[666] Kazuyoshi Tatsunami Speaks Out — Is Poor Results Really All on the Manager? “Players Get Protected,” “Nobody Might Want to Be Manager Anymore”“.

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