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The story
In the venue announcement for Hello! Project’s big fall shows, Juice=Juice, Tsubaki Factory, and BEYOOOOONDS were chosen for Nippon Budokan, while ANGERME was relegated to the PIA Arena slot. ANGERME just held a solo Budokan show this past spring, but on 5ch there were repeated claims that turnout back then was weak, with comments like “today’s ANGERME can’t fill Budokan” standing out. The discussion spread from whether the venue size made sense to the impact of Haruka Hirayama and Hana Goto leaving the group.
■Budokan
Juice=Juice, Tsubaki Factory, BEYOOOOONDS
■PIA Arena
Source: upfc.jp / Original article here
What people said
Obviously. There's no way today's ANGERME fills Budokan. They'd end up with a half-empty venue disaster.
I thought Budokan was supposed to be the Hirayama/Goto graduation show.
They couldn't have decided whether to do it based on spring's results — the booking was made last year.
4,000 might be an exaggeration, but the 1,000 figure is a real tally, so it's not funny.
100 Reasons Why ANGERME Can Never Beat Juice=Juice, As Felt at Their Budokan Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwAZ4XU-9L8
As a "Hallo-oji" (an older male Hello!Project fan) who's always favored ANGERME within the group, I'm sharing my painful thoughts.
– It really wasn't full at all
– The arena seats were sparse
– About the same turnout as Up Up Girls (Kari)'s Budokan show
– It lacked star power
– The setlist/structure was terrible
– It's a rough team when Tamenaga is batting cleanup
https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1786372123
Why not just disband already?
What are you talking about? Sure, that's technically true, but we only find out about it now. Old man, they haven't been popular for a while now, right?
It's disbandment. There's no upside left.
Even a Level 3 venue is already half-empty at this rate.
Pacifico would just barely fill up, but the sense of decline from "dropping down to Pacifico" would disappoint the casual fans ("DD," fans who like multiple members/groups) even more and drive them away, so it's questionable whether it'd actually fill.
Don't just state the obvious like that.
They've already left, that's the thing.
Which will be in worse shape in two years, ANGERME or Juice=Juice?
https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1703233635/
1: Anonymous Recruiting…: 2023/12/22 (Fri) 17:27:15.64 0
A(NGERME): Ise, Hashisako, Tamenaga, Kawana, Matsumoto, Hirayama, Shimoi, Goto
J(uice=Juice): Matsunaga, Kudo, Arisawa, Irie, Ebata, Ishiyama, Endo, Kawashima
Hirayama and Goto have long since been gone.
Except for Nagano, none of them can do anything but cling to ANGERME for their talent careers, so the next departure is still a long way off.
It really is a stark contrast. "Danbara and Inoue, please don't quit~" versus "Hirayama and Goto, hurry up and give up on it~"
Don't make any more sacrifices.
Where would they even hold it? Toyosu?
The fact that they fell from grace points to problems with the group's setup — it's not like the two of them did anything wrong.
Background and Key Points of This Topic
Venues for Hello!Project’s major shows are said to be booked by the agency under an artist’s name based on projected ticket demand, and commenters on the thread noted that “Budokan is booked under the artist’s name — it’s not some lottery between groups.” ANGERME has gone through the departures of core members Haruka Hirayama and Hana Goto, and posters cited the turnout at this spring’s Budokan show (reportedly around 4,000) and live-viewing audience (reportedly around 1,000) as evidence that turnout for the group’s next big show would likely be tough. However, these figures come from hearsay within the thread, not an official tally released by the agency or the group, which readers should be careful not to mistake for confirmed data. The discussion expanded to include Pacifico Yokohama as a possible venue, but all of this remains fan speculation rather than confirmed information.
※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello!Project) thread “ANGERME, for real this time, looks like they missed out on the big fall venue (Budokan) lolololololol.”
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