The perennial debate over whether you need a car in Tokyo has flared up again on 5ch. Many argue cars are unnecessary, citing steep parking fees and better value from taxis and rental cars, while others — especially those living outside the Yamanote Line loop or raising kids — insist cars are essential. The thread escalated into an argument over an image showing car ownership rates in Suginami Ward.
What people said
1AnonymousAug 22, 2026 13:13
There's no way it's simply "better to have one" or "better not to." Even in Tokyo there are tons of places where the trains are inconvenient with annoying transfers — if anything, the more urban you are, the more you appreciate having a car.
2AnonymousAug 22, 2026 13:14
Do those two things really add up to "necessary"?
3AnonymousAug 22, 2026 13:14
Fine if you've got money to spare, but if you're broke you're better off spending it elsewhere.
4AnonymousAug 22, 2026 13:21
Why bother buying something you can get by without anyway?
7AnonymousAug 22, 2026 13:22
Once Tesla self-driving gets approved, poor Tokyoites are all going to live in their Teslas instead of paying rent. Calling it now — electricity, bottled water, and public bathhouse fees for a Tesla-dwelling lifestyle would be cheaper than rent and utilities.
8AnonymousAug 22, 2026 13:26
Looking around at my friends, I don't know a single family living in Tokyo without a car. There's stuff like driving the grandparents to the hospital too.
11AnonymousAug 22, 2026 13:29
If you ignore the purchase price and upkeep costs, sure, having one is better.
12AnonymousAug 22, 2026 13:31
There's traffic congestion, so doesn't that mean a lot of people actually own cars after all?
13AnonymousAug 22, 2026 13:32
Even just factoring in parking fees, calling a taxi when you need one works out cheaper.
14AnonymousAug 22, 2026 13:33
Unlike the countryside, a lot of places don't even have parking, and where it exists it's expensive. If you're wealthy that doesn't matter, but for ordinary folks, a car isn't necessary.
24AnonymousAug 22, 2026 13:53
It's more like "nice to have" than "necessary." I own one, but I only drive it about 3 times a month.
26AnonymousAug 22, 2026 13:58
Re: #24
If you're not using it for work, of course you're not driving it every day.
30AnonymousAug 22, 2026 14:09
Outside the Yamanote Line, a lot of areas just have train lines radiating outward, so it's better to have a car. It's only pathetic bottom-feeders whose whole world is the area right around the station who insist cars are totally unnecessary. Big-box stores along the main roads away from the stations blow train-side shops away on both selection and price.
39AnonymousAug 22, 2026 14:20
People with money to spare own cars at a high rate. Households with kids also have higher ownership rates. The people saying they don't need one are broke, family-less, lonely types.
41AnonymousAug 22, 2026 14:22
Re: #39
Please go ahead and keep that prejudice for the rest of your life. I'm not foolish enough to blow money on something I don't need just to keep up appearances.
48AnonymousAug 22, 2026 14:27
It's not prejudice, it's just how reality is. The truth is you want a car but can't afford to maintain one.
71AnonymousAug 22, 2026 14:43
Yeah, rich people really do own cars lol. Surprised my own Suginami Ward is this low.
86AnonymousAug 22, 2026 14:49
Re: #71
That image is basically the answer. Come on, "necessary" camp, give your take on this.
107AnonymousAug 22, 2026 14:56
Re: #103
Like it says in Re: #71, car ownership rates around there are actually low.
76AnonymousAug 22, 2026 14:46
Having a car is definitely convenient. The people saying they don't need one just can't afford to own one.
79AnonymousAug 22, 2026 14:48
Re: #76
Does "gets in the way and costs money to maintain" also count as "convenient"?
83AnonymousAug 22, 2026 14:48
Poor guy: "Renting a car when you need one beats owning — way better value." Me: "A broke guy who can't even afford to own a car isn't casually renting one either, you idiot."
94AnonymousAug 22, 2026 14:52
Re: #83
Factor in the purchase price and upkeep, and rental cars or taxis work out cheaper.
91AnonymousAug 22, 2026 14:51
Just use whichever is more convenient at the time, car or train. Why are broke people so hostile toward cars anyway?
100AnonymousAug 22, 2026 14:53
Re: #91
It's always the "cars are necessary" camp that starts this fight every time.
103AnonymousAug 22, 2026 14:54
At Toyosu and Kiba where I do my daily shopping — everyone gets 2 hours free, app/credit-card members get several more hours (doubled on weekends), and spending ¥1,000-2,000 gets you another 1-2 hours on top. I never stay for hours on end, so I basically never end up paying for parking.
109AnonymousAug 22, 2026 14:57
Toyosu's packed with high-rise condos, so parking's probably ridiculously expensive there too.
121AnonymousAug 22, 2026 15:02
Re: #109
The high-rises are only in the redeveloped area right by the station — cross one canal and it's regular condos. The LaLaport parking lot (especially underground) is packed with luxury cars though, makes me nervous parking next to one.
112AnonymousAug 22, 2026 14:58
Poor guy: "Factor in the purchase price and upkeep, and rental cars or taxis are cheaper." Me: "A broke guy who has to worry about a car's purchase price and upkeep isn't casually affording rental cars or taxis either, you idiot."
132AnonymousAug 22, 2026 15:12
Re: #129
"Fine either way" and "absolutely don't need it" — can you tell the difference? lol
137AnonymousAug 22, 2026 15:13
Is the whole of Tokyo a fancy upscale neighborhood or something? Explain why that's the standard you're using.
Background and Key Points
For readers unfamiliar with Japan, the key institutional fact behind this whole argument is the “shako shōmei” system — since the 1960s, anyone registering a car in Japan’s major cities must first prove they have a legal parking space for it, which is why off-street parking in central Tokyo is both scarce and expensive (often ¥30,000–50,000, or roughly $200–350, a month in the 23 wards). That single rule underpins nearly every “parking costs more than the car is worth” comment in the thread. The Yamanote Line loop, referenced repeatedly, is the JR line encircling central Tokyo; areas inside and just outside it have dense subway/rail coverage, while wards and satellite cities further out often rely on a handful of radial train lines with long walks or bus transfers to reach them — the geographic split the “you need a car” camp is describing.
The thread doesn’t actually split on whether cars are useful — nobody disputes that — it splits on whether convenience translates into “necessary,” with income implicitly standing in for both sides’ real argument: one camp reads car ownership as a marker of being comfortably well-off, the other reads it as a trap that eats disposable income better spent on trains, taxis, or rentals.
What goes unmentioned is the irony in the Suginami Ward image itself: Suginami is one of Tokyo’s more affluent, family-heavy wards, yet posters cite its low ownership rate as proof that “necessary” is wrong — without noting that affluent central wards simply have the best transit access, so wealth and low car ownership aren’t contradictory there at all.
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