Kuroko’s Basketball: The ‘Midorima Is Strongest’ Theory Survives Yet Another 5ch Debate

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Over on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” board, a thread heated up around the idea that Shintaro Midorima from Kuroko’s Basketball might be the de facto strongest player in the series. Posters split over how to counter his 100%-accuracy shot, and over just how well Ryota Kise’s “Perfect Copy” can actually replicate the threat Midorima poses.

Citing in-story specs like his hang time, height, and weight, some argued he’d be “basically breaking the rules” in real life, and the discussion spiraled into a full ranking debate of the Generation of Miracles.

What people said

1AnonymousAug 19, 2026 00:38
Looks like he's clearly the strongest, no argument there
14AnonymousAug 19, 2026 00:49
Since there's only one Midorima, marking him tight is still a workable answer
but if there were two Midorimas, basketball as a sport would collapse
32AnonymousAug 19, 2026 00:56
Re: #14
And that's exactly what makes Kise so dangerous
depending on the situation, he can become a second Aomine or a second Midorima
and if he's copying Midorima, holding off on activating Perfect Copy until right before he catches the pass and shoots saves him a ton of stamina
24AnonymousAug 19, 2026 00:52
Kuroko himself is trash, though (lol)
31AnonymousAug 19, 2026 00:55
Re: #24
Just keep feeding Midorima the ball nonstop and he's unbeatable
66AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:09
Re: #31
The farther out the shot, the longer it takes to actually go in
so you just need to outscore him at a faster pace than that
the American team in the last match did exactly that
basically just ignoring Midorima entirely
26AnonymousAug 19, 2026 00:53
Didn't someone show up who blocks literally 100% of shots from anywhere on the court?
27AnonymousAug 19, 2026 00:54
Re: #26
Kagami stopped him plenty of times though
28AnonymousAug 19, 2026 00:54
Re: #26
Aomine's kind of close to that, arguably
30AnonymousAug 19, 2026 00:55
If only copying every Miracle's ability came with zero downside for Kise…
36AnonymousAug 19, 2026 00:57
Re: #30
Isn't "insane stamina drain" literally the downside?
40AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:00
Surprised anyone besides fujoshi (female yaoi fans) actually watched this
42AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:00
Re: #40
It's surprisingly good, honestly
58AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:06
Re: #40
Same deal with Prince of Tennis or Reborn — plenty of non-fujoshi readers watched those too, it's Jump after all
48AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:01
Why keep talking about 'doing everything humanly possible' and then go enroll at some scrub high school?
61AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:07
Re: #48
Wasn't that school supposed to be a Tokyo-representative regular…
is a school that makes the Inter-High every single year really 'scrub tier'?
51AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:02
Kuroko's just running a battle manga with a basketball skin
good sports manga basically never have villains
54AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:04
Re: #51
Even Slam Dunk had guys who injured opponents on purpose though
55AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:05
Thanks to this absurd power, you'd have to man-mark the inbound pass after every single score like your life depends on it
we're talking a level where ceiling height, inbound rules, and even the 3-point line would need to change
57AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:06
Re: #55
Lol, people calculated that with a 13-second hang time the ceiling would need to be at least 280 meters
59AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:06
If they actually existed in real life, I think the other Miracles would just get celebrated as amazing athletes
but if Midorima existed, either the rules would have to change or, worst case, he might get 'taken care of'
otherwise basketball as a sport would be finished
62AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:08
Re: #59
Well, 195cm and 79kg is pretty stick-thin, so realistically the 'Midorima hack' would just be injuring him and benching him for a whole season
67AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:10
Re: #54
Even within Kuroko's Basketball, Hanamiya's Kirisaki Daiichi already does exactly that
70AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:12
Re: #67
No, that's exactly the point 51 was making
68AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:11
Plus he's about the only one of the Miracles who takes basketball seriously and never lets up even against weaker opponents
he seems like the guy who'd mesh best with Kuroko, so it's odd they set them up as a bad match from the start
73AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:13
Re: #68
Kuroko's not exactly the serious type either
dude randomly punches his own teammates out of nowhere
74AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:13
Something about the power balance here just feels off
75AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:13
Also, I'm pretty sure this guy would still sink the shot even if you passed him the ball mid-air right as he jumped
at this point the only fix is bombing the TV stations and canceling Oha Asa (the real morning-show horoscope segment his 'lucky items' parody)
78AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:14
Re: #75
Akashi: 'Can't you just steal the pass? (lol)'
76AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:14
He'd struggle against a defender with elite physical ability marking him one-on-one, right?
Wouldn't he be unable to get a shot off against Aomine or Murasakibara too, not just Kagami?
79AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:16
Re: #76
Not sure about Murasakibara, but Aomine… I dunno
this guy's 195cm with a massive vertical to begin with, and in the whole series only five guys are even taller than him
81AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:18
Re: #76
Wouldn't it actually help the team if Murasakibara, basically the best defender around, was the one assigned to guard Midorima?
80AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:18
Well, in the sense that one-on-one defense can deal with him, he might not be a huge deal under a one-man-carries-the-team premise
but between two teams built from equally matched players, the team with Midorima on it wins 100% of the time
89AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:30
Re: #80
The only guys who can handle him one-on-one are Miracle-tier
even the Uncrowned Kings can't do anything about him, so despite the positional mismatch it fell to Akashi to guard him — and Akashi doesn't even blame the Uncrowned Kings for losing to Midorima, that's just treated as expected
84AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:21
They pile way too much of a nerf on Kise just for plot convenience
the only copies that should clearly cost him something are Murasakibara's and reproducing Akashi's eye
86AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:23
Re: #84
Of course he'd get more tired than usual doing movements he doesn't normally do
85AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:22
Still, Aomine's the strongest!

↑ yeah, that's definitely not it
88AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:30
Re: #85
If you're counting defense too, maybe
87AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:28
If Midorima never misses, his team doesn't even need to prepare for rebounds — wouldn't they be unbeatable just by falling back on D?
91AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:33
Re: #87
Actually, his teammates really do drop back whenever he shoots
plus there's that hang time that ignores the laws of physics
90AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:31
The fact that Midorima — the one power in this superpower battle manga that's barely physically explainable — ends up being the strongest just shows how badly the powers were designed, doesn't it?
95AnonymousAug 19, 2026 01:37
Re: #90
Murasakibara's the most realistic one, honestly

Background and Key Points

Kuroko’s Basketball (Kuroko no Basuke) revolves around the “Generation of Miracles,” five prodigy players who each dominated Teiko Middle School with a different superhuman skill. Midorima Shintaro’s is a three-point shot with a freakishly high arc and effectively 100% accuracy; the thread’s jokes about “hang time” and ceiling height are riffing on the fact that his shot’s arc is drawn so extreme it would need a stadium roof hundreds of meters tall to be physically possible. His other signature trait, obsessively carrying a horoscope-assigned “lucky item,” is a direct parody of Oha Asa, a real long-running morning-TV fortune segment familiar to any Japanese viewer but meaningless without that context. Kise Ryota’s “Perfect Copy” lets him replicate any move he’s seen once, at the cost of physical strain that scales with how far the move is from his natural ability.

The thread wasn’t arguing over whether Midorima is skilled — everyone conceded that — but over whether he’s stoppable in-universe: can a single elite defender (Aomine, Murasakibara, Kagami) shut him down one-on-one, or does beating him require restructuring team strategy (or the rules of basketball itself) around him. A side debate over whether Kise’s copy of Midorima should cost him more stamina than it currently does never resolved either.

What outsiders likely miss is that the “real-life” framing throughout — bombing TV stations to cancel Oha Asa, benching him with an injury — is a genre-standard exaggeration ritual on Japanese boards for overpowered fictional characters, not a serious complaint about the manga’s writing.

*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Sad News] Kuroko’s Basketball Fails to Overturn the Midorima-Is-Strongest Theory, Thread Ends.”

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