Renting a ground-floor apartment: is it a bad idea? 5ch: “In an earthquake, the 2nd floor collapses first”

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The story

A poster searching for a rental said the only thing giving them pause was that the unit is on the “1st floor” (ground floor). Responses on 5ch ranged across flooding, security, soundproofing, and mold. One unexpected claim — that in an earthquake it’s the 2nd floor, not the 1st, that collapses first — steered the thread in a new direction.

What people said

1AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:16
Ground-floor units really are a no-go, huh?
For reference, it's a 4-story building.
2AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:17
I like ground floor units myself, but flooding is a dealbreaker.
4AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:18
Re: #2
Yeah, flooding really is scary.
Humidity tends to run higher too, apparently.
6AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:18
On the ground floor you end up worrying about people looking in.
Fine if you're thick-skinned and don't care, though.
8AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:20
Re: #6
Yeah, that would kind of bug me too.
7AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:20
If you just tell yourself "as long as I can lock the door and sleep easy," your options open up a lot when apartment hunting.
9AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:21
Re: #7
That's true, but it costs a fair amount too
and I don't want to end up regretting it.
10AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:24
If you're fine with bugs, mold, flooding, and sketchy-stranger risk, ground floor is great.
12AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:25
Re: #10
Mold's the one I really hate…
11AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:24
With a ground-floor unit, one "yami baito" (a shady, often criminal gig-work job advertised online, sometimes involving break-ins) guy shows up and you're done instantly.
Not many of them are climbing up to the 4th floor.
19AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:28
Re: #11
Security-wise, the ground floor is actually the safe one.
92AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:06
Re: #11
Burglars don't even bother targeting poor people who live in rentals to begin with.
113AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:25
Re: #11
Actually, break-ins and robberies at places like mansions happen more on upper floors than the ground floor.
15AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:28
Definitely avoid it.
Cold seeps up from the floor.
It gets moldy.
21AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:30
Re: #15
Mold's the worst part for me.
I'm into clothes, so if mold gets on my leather stuff, that would be brutal.
17AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:28
There've been a lot of burglars lately, so if you can avoid it, skip the ground floor.
Depending on the area, they'll even steal your AC's outdoor unit.
26AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:32
Re: #17
Honestly, more than burglars, what I really don't want is some guy showing up asking to "borrow your bathroom."
22AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:30
Fun fact: in an earthquake, it's not the 1st floor that collapses first — it's the 2nd.
27AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:32
Re: #22
Seriously? Had no idea.
39AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:39
You hear everything — footsteps upstairs, sliding doors, all of it.
At this price range, don't expect any soundproofing at all.
49AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:43
Re: #39
Even with reinforced-concrete construction, still bad?
66AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:50
Re: #49
Reinforced-concrete (RC) buildings actually get the most noise complaints.
With wood-frame places, people move in already accepting they'll hear some noise, so they're considerate of each other.
With RC construction, people move in not knowing better, assuming they're fine, and then reality turns out to be nothing like that.
68AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:52
Re: #66
Even within RC construction there's wall-type and rahmen (frame) type — supposedly wall-type, where each unit is fully partitioned off, has the best soundproofing. Rahmen structure varies a lot by building.
74AnonymousAug 19, 2026 13:56
Re: #66
Oh, so that's how it works.
Now I'm starting to feel like this particular unit might not be the one.
97AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:11
So the Tokaido Main Line runs right alongside it too.
Good thing the road out front is a narrow one, at least.
100AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:14
Re: #96
It's crazy cheap — probably because it's old and the location isn't great.



101AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:15
Re: #100
With this, hanging laundry outside on the balcony looks tough…
105AnonymousAug 19, 2026 14:18
Re: #100
Even setting that aside, the ground floor is just less popular than the other floors,
so it's cheaper.
Probably security worries again.
Some people even put security cameras on their balcony.

Background and Key Points

Japan’s rental listings organize buildings strictly by floor count from the ground up, and “1階” (first floor) simply means street level, not an English “ground floor” ambiguity. Ground-floor units are almost always priced below identical units upstairs precisely because Japanese renters have long associated them with flooding risk in a country prone to typhoons and heavy rain, plus higher humidity and mold from proximity to the earth and poor airflow under raised foundations. The “yami baito” reference posters raised is a genuinely current Japanese phenomenon: since around 2023, social media and anonymous apps have been used to recruit disposable, one-off criminals for break-ins and scams, often with no vetting or loyalty to the organizers, making random residential burglary feel more common and more indiscriminate than traditional organized theft.

The thread didn’t actually converge on ground floor being unsafe overall — it split specifically on whether floor level predicts burglary risk at all, with several posters countering that upper floors in mid-rise “mansion” buildings see more break-ins than ground level, since criminals assume occupants feel falsely secure and target balconies or windows accordingly.

What’s likely to confuse foreign readers is the throwaway claim that the second floor collapses first in an earthquake. No one in the thread explained it, but this refers to a well-documented structural phenomenon in older Japanese wood-frame construction, where the second floor’s weight concentrates stress on a weaker first-floor frame, not a rule about which floor number is inherently more dangerous. It largely applies to pre-1981 buildings built before Japan’s revised seismic code, a detail the thread never brought up despite it undercutting the “ground floor is riskier” framing entirely.

※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nanademo Jikkyou G) thread “The one thing bugging me about this rental I’m looking at is that it’s on the “1st floor”…“

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