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  • Actress Maya Imamori, fired over underage drinking, gives life update on new YouTube channel — 5ch: ‘She’s basically a legend at this point’

    Actress Maya Imamori (20), who was dropped from TV Asahi’s Super Sentai series “Number One Sentai Go-Jyuger” after her underage drinking came to light, and whose contract with her talent agency “Seju” was also terminated, posted to her YouTube channel for the first time on the 8th. She shared new photos and spoke in her own words about her current source of income and the possibility of a return to show business, sparking discussion on 5ch’s Entertainment & Sports News+ board. The thread mixed voices pointing out the unfairness that the suit actor involved in her previously reported affair faced almost no consequences, with others who took issue with the underage drinking itself, while speculation flew about her current lifestyle and work.

    Video — First YouTube upload

    Actress Maya Imamori, fired over underage drinking, shows new photos and reveals her current source of income — also answers “Will she return to entertainment?”

    Actress Maya Imamori (20), whose contract with talent agency “Seju” was terminated after it emerged last November that she had been drinking while under 20, and who was dropped from TV Asahi’s Super Sentai series “Number One Sentai Go-Jyuger,” updated her YouTube channel on the 8th, revealing her current feelings.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:30
    Go film a video with the masked guy — you're into him, right?
    3AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:31
    I'd rather watch an Osaka night-view channel on YouTube than Peace-kun from Omiya Park anyway.
    5AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:33
    Scandal-wise, she'll probably go over well with the older-guy crowd.
    6AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:34
    Well, as for the affair, the suit actor skipped out scot-free, so I feel a little sympathy for her there there.
    As for the drinking and the side-job thing? Yeah… that's just dumb.
    And honestly, I never cared that much about the Sentai show to begin with, so it's none of my business — pure rubbernecking, lol.
    51AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:02
    Re: #6
    Wasn't it the other way around — Imamori got off clean and only the suit actor got dropped?
    7AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:34
    Looks like a nice place she's living in — whose house is it, though?
    15AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:37
    Re: #7
    She's still only 20 — if that's not her parents' place, that's a pretty big deal.
    8AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:34
    The pivot from baiting the haters straight into monetizing is just flawless.
    9AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:35
    I bet she's got a patron (a 'sugar daddy'). Just look at the room in those photos — no way someone with no income is living there.
    11AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:35
    The timing's perfect — not too hot, not too cold.
    14AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:36
    The stage is set perfectly.
    Now it's all down to whether she's actually got what it takes.
    16AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:37
    At this point she's less 'the underage drinking girl' and more the legendary woman who had an affair with the suit actor, threw the whole production into chaos, and basically ended the Sentai franchise itself.
    20AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:41
    Re: #16
    They weren't even prepping a next series anyway, so I don't think that's related.
    17AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:38
    Honestly, Gavan just turned out to be boring as hell. (a tokusatsu show, apparently brought up as a tangent)
    18AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:39
    A room that looks this expensive, and she's working at a lounge (a hostess bar)? lol
    How much is she even getting paid?
    If it's in Tokyo, a place like that has to run over ¥200,000 a month.
    And those bottles visible in the background look pricey too, lol
    21AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:41
    No matter what your position is, as long as you're in Japan you follow Japanese law — that's just basic.
    There's no excuse for breaking it.
    32AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:51
    From her social media posts I figured she was in a dark place, but she actually seems to be living it up — glad to see it.
    35AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:53
    And she looks so wholesome, too
    44AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:59
    Re: #35
    People whose face looks different on the left and right side have two sides to them — that's what Madame Françoise always said. (likely a reference to a fortune-teller character)
    37AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:53
    She probably can't go back to a normal job anymore.
    41AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:56
    Re: #37
    That's true of celebrities in general.
    Even people way down at the bottom of the industry can make decent money these days off social media tips, live-stream donations, and event merch sales.

    She might pick up the occasional part-time shift, but once you're earning real money, working some ¥1,200–1,500/hour job starts to feel pointless.
    42AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:58
    So she was actually making enough to save up at this level.
    46AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:00
    Once you've shown your face as a celebrity and left a trail online, there's no real benefit or motivation left to go back to normal society at this point.
    47AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:00
    Ah, the legendary woman who ended that Sentai series, huh, lol
    78AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:37
    Once you've been in entertainment, there's no going back to being a regular office worker.
    87AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:54
    Re: #78
    That's true for people who made it reasonably big — the pay scale is just different. But at the level of a Sentai actress, working at a lounge is probably an easier gig while she's still young.
    84AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:47
    Not addressing the affair at all is giving major Tatsuya Yamaguchi vibes. (a TOKIO member involved in a past scandal)
    89AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:56
    Re: #84
    If she'd just given a full account of the affair everyone would've felt satisfied, but she's playing all cutesy about it instead, which just leaves a bad taste.

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    In 2024, it was reported that Maya Imamori had an affair with a suit actor, and in November 2025 it came out that she had been drinking underage, leading to her being dropped from TV Asahi’s Super Sentai series “Number One Sentai Go-Jyuger” and having her contract with her talent agency terminated. While the thread acknowledged the fact that she was actually let go over the underage drinking rather than the affair, many posters pointed out the unfairness in the suit actor involved in the affair facing no publicly announced punishment. On the other hand, regarding her current source of income, although what she described in the video was working at a “lounge” (a hostess-style bar), the thread also saw baseless speculation about “papa katsu” (being financially supported by an older man in a sugar-daddy-style arrangement) or having a patron — her own explanation and the online speculation should be read as separate things. Additionally, the phrase “she ended the Sentai franchise” has spread widely, but this is an exaggerated bit of internet folklore about the impact of her being dropped from the show, and no direct evidence has been given that the series itself was discontinued because of her.

    *This article is an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Entertainment & Sports News+) thread “[Entertainment] Actress Maya Imamori, fired over underage drinking, launches YouTube channel, shows new photos, reveals current source of income — also answers “Will she return to entertainment?”“.

  • Pentagon Breached: Personal Data of 3 Million Military Personnel Allegedly Exposed in Plain Text

    The Pentagon’s Defense Manpower Data Center (DMDC), which manages U.S. Department of Defense personnel data, suffered unauthorized access, and it has come to light that the personal information of over 3 million active-duty and retired service members was sitting there readable in unencrypted plain text. Just before this, the FBI had suffered a similar cyberattack that leaked its agents’ information, and the string of breaches hitting government agencies has sent shockwaves through the public. On 5channel threads, reactions ranged from disbelief that even the Department of Defense couldn’t secure its systems, to calls for AI regulation on the grounds that its spread is fueling these attacks, to arguments for an “analog comeback” — physically disconnecting networks altogether.

    It has come to light that the servers of the U.S. Department of Defense’s Defense Manpower Data Center (DMDC) were accessed without authorization, and that the personal information of more than 3 million people — including current and former military personnel — had been viewed by unknown parties. In the U.S., the FBI had only just reported that it too had suffered a cyberattack that leaked its agents’ personal information. With U.S. government agencies — which are supposed to have ironclad security — hit one after another, those involved are reportedly shocked.

    See source for details, 2026/10/9

    Source: itmedia.co.jp / Original article here

    8AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:53
    Intel agents' info leaking out in the open?
    14AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:54
    Re: #8
    If CIA data leaks, agents are gonna get whacked.
    36AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:59
    Re: #14
    Feel bad for any DEA agents undercover in Mexico.
    21AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:56
    If even the Pentagon can't stop this, no way civilians can, aru~ (a 5ch meme mimicking a stereotyped 'Chinese guy' speech pattern)
    24AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:57
    Re: #21
    Weren't they supposed to be using AI to plug the holes?
    37AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:59
    The most important thing isn't fighting AI with AI — it's disconnecting from the network entirely.
    47AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:01
    Re: #37
    Analog is king.
    38AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:59
    Guess the enemy isn't human after all. Humanity's done for.
    44AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:01
    Re: #38
    But humans are the ones pulling the strings, no?
    82AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:09
    Maybe a massive solar flare fries every electronic device on Earth at once, wipes the slate clean, and everyone lives happily ever after.
    85AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:10
    Re: #82
    Just use an EMP, no?
    86AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:10
    Re: #82
    Like the Carrington Event? (the 1859 solar storm that fried telegraph systems worldwide)
    92AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:11
    Haven't Russia and China had leaks too? Or do they just keep quiet about it, I wonder.
    122AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:17
    Re: #92
    China had a massive leak before, didn't they.
    110AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:14
    By the way, amid all these leaks happening country after country, there's one country you almost never hear leak rumors about.
    116AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:16
    Re: #110
    Iran and North Korea, maybe?
    144AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:19
    Re: #110
    Lol, China's had leaks on a whole different scale.

    https://www.cnn.co.jp/tech/35246217.html
    > A massive trove of data, including top-secret defense-related information
    > The leaked classified information is said to exceed 10 petabytes
    > Believed to have been stolen from the National Supercomputing Center Tianjin (NSCC) in Tianjin. NSCC's infrastructure was used by over 6,000 clients across China, including advanced scientific research institutions and defense agencies.
    > Some of the stolen information was posted online as samples.
    > Multiple experts CNN spoke with said their initial assessment was that the leaked information appeared genuine.
    127AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:17
    Re: #1
    This is all because they let AI spread everywhere.
    If this keeps getting ignored, incidents like this are just going to keep multiplying forever.
    Digital money getting siphoned off without permission, companies unable to even run normal business because they're stuck dealing with personal-data-leak fallout…
    If AI keeps being left unchecked, the damage is just going to keep growing worldwide — governments, companies, individuals, all of it.
    The international community needs to work together and ban AI, immediately.
    150AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:20
    Re: #127
    The humans abusing it are the problem. Penalties need to be way harsher.
    129AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:18
    Just a matter of time before this becomes scarier than nukes.
    143AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:19
    Re: #129
    Makes you wonder if the nuclear football the US president carries around could get hacked.
    134AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:18
    Honestly the Chinese Communist Party's probably grimacing over this too — if Chinese-made AI makes it this easy to hack servers, there's a good chance someone infiltrates the Party itself.
    149AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:20
    Re: #134
    If they built it themselves, wouldn't they know how to defend against it?
    151AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:20
    Back to analog, that's the only way. Anyone who doesn't will end up with a zero bank balance.
    156AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:21
    Re: #151
    Well, even if you personally go analog, the bank itself is all data, so your balance hits zero anyway.
    169AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:23
    Fine if some mom-and-pop BBQ joint or parking lot company has weak security, but what's the Pentagon doing being this pathetically weak, lol
    180AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:25
    Re: #169
    Storing stuff in plain text would get even a regular company roasted.
    185AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:26
    This is AI's fault too, isn't it — regulate it already.
    190AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:27
    Re: #185
    Too late to regulate now. We already gave criminal groups room to evolve with it.
    192AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:27
    AI should be regulated. Humans are supposed to matter most, after all.
    197AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:28
    Re: #156
    Just keep an amount in the bank you wouldn't mind losing entirely. Store the rest of your assets offline, spread across different places. Need to put up defenses before AI gets you — if a brokerage gets hit, your NISA (Japan's tax-free investment account) could vanish just like that.
    202AnonymousOct 10, 2026 01:29
    Re: #197
    Not like analog cash is guaranteed to hold value if banks and stocks are already wrecked, though? Gold, maybe — that'd hold up.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    What leaked this time is said to be personnel data rather than classified defense information, but the fact that it was stored in plain text has drawn criticism of the Department of Defense’s basic security practices. Combined with the FBI breach just before it, the ongoing wave of attacks on U.S. government agencies is hard to ignore. Within the thread, opinions split between those arguing that “the spread of AI itself is driving more attacks” and calling for regulation, and those countering that “it’s humans who abuse it in the end,” absolving AI of blame. The thread also brought up the past case where over 10 petabytes of data were reportedly stolen from China’s National Supercomputing Center Tianjin (NSCC), suggesting that this kind of attack is becoming the norm worldwide. That said, the specific methods and entry points of the attack had not been officially confirmed as of this writing, so some of the speculation in the thread should be taken with a grain of salt.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Breaking News+) thread “[Breaking] U.S. Department of Defense Pentagon Hit by Cyberattack, Personal Data of 3 Million Allegedly Leaked in Plain Text.”

  • Over 300 Million Hit Worldwide as Data Breaches Surge Since September — AI Suspected

    According to the Nikkei, more than 300 million people’s personal data has been reported leaked worldwide over the roughly one month since September, with some incidents suspected to involve AI-assisted attacks. The report stresses that defenders urgently need to bolster their own AI-powered countermeasures. On 5ch, reactions ranged from shock that even major institutions like the Pentagon were caught up in the breaches, to predictions of a future standoff between attacking AI and defending AI, to calls to simply go back to analog record-keeping.

    Unauthorized access incidents are surging worldwide. It was revealed on the 8th that over the roughly one month since September, at least 300 million instances of personal data leaks have been publicly disclosed. Some cases are suspected to involve artificial intelligence (AI). Defenders, too, will need to leverage AI to prepare for these threats.

    Nikkei

    Source: nikkei.com / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:14
    Why the sudden pivot to talking about the whole world?
    40AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:25
    Re: #2
    Tell me why you think that's odd
    44AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:26
    Re: #2
    Probably because some people mistakenly think AI-driven cyberattacks are only happening in Japan
    68AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:32
    Re: #2
    Isn't this just becoming the kind of thing that ends up on the agenda at international conferences?
    11AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:17
    Doesn't seem like there's any effective countermeasure
    45AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:26
    Re: #11
    Guess the only option is to use AI the same way, to hunt down security holes and patch them up
    So basically every company is headed toward adopting AI security — AI companies are set for life
    61AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:29
    Re: #11
    What if you just assumed the data would get stolen anyway
    and kept hundreds of times more dummy data on file than the real thing — wouldn't that work?
    15AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:18
    Even the Pentagon had a data leak
    https://www.itmedia.co.jp/news/article/2610/09/2000002158/

    Nobody can stop this anymore
    30AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:23
    Re: #15
    Lol
    Just a matter of time before clouds like AWS get hit with ransomware too
    38AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:25
    Re: #15
    Okay this one's actually hilarious
    Apparently a certain someone would call even this "minor damage"
    97AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:42
    Re: #15
    This is bad.
    What exactly did Musk's "efficiency drive" even accomplish?
    21AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:20
    The age of blue-collar work
    The age of analog
    209AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:19
    Re: #21
    This, in the end, is what it comes down to
    Going back to analog is the only way
    Digital can stick to ads and bulletin boards
    67AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:32
    With personal data leaking like this, home-invasion burglars are going to start targeting people with pinpoint accuracy
    Generative-AI-powered infrastructure attacks are probably about to surge too
    9/11 was horrifying, but are things like aviation systems actually secure against this…?
    75AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:36
    Re: #67
    I figured a financial-system attack would be bad, but
    now that you mention it, if aviation or maritime systems got hit that'd be absolutely brutal — basically every country not connected by land would end up isolated from the world
    (don't really know how maritime systems work though)
    135AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:55
    Re: #67
    Hackers can take infrastructure down, but actually controlling it is a lot harder
    since the apps that run the equipment are custom-designed for each individual operator
    79AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:36
    Pandora's box is already open, there's no going back
    We just have to pour resources into defense
    and build a world of attacking-AI vs. defending-AI

    If you go and regulate AI out of nowhere, all you do is hand the advantage to rogue third-party states that'll use it full-throttle anyway
    85AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:37
    Re: #79
    And in the end, it's Terminator 2
    92AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:41
    Re: #79
    If we ditch the internet and AI and go back to the Stone Age, we'll just get invaded and dominated by whichever country didn't ditch them and monopolized the cutting-edge tech instead — so there's no stopping now, huh
    It's an arms race driven by the need for enough power to stand on equal footing with other nations
    81AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:37
    If they're using AI, couldn't Anthropic or OpenAI just trace the culprit?
    Or are they running local LLMs instead?
    89AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:39
    Re: #81
    Someone mentioned in another reply that incident reports spiked the moment Anthropic put out a new model, so maybe they're using a major AI provider (just a guess)
    93AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:41
    Re: #81
    I'm a total newbie here, but if they're pulling off cyberattacks at this scale using local LLMs, the upkeep must be brutal —
    unless it's a nation-state-level organization behind it, that is
    110AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:45
    Wasn't it Rakuten or somewhere that had over 100 million leaked?
    Japan really is way too vulnerable compared to everyone else
    118AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:48
    Re: #110
    There's been no follow-up on that, and Rakuten denied it, saying they can't confirm it, so it's still unclear whether it's true or just a bogus rumor
    121AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:49
    Re: #110
    The Japan Hacker Association
    117AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:48
    Far from making society more convenient, AI is dragging us back to the analog age
    136AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:55
    Re: #117
    If I recall, postal workers manage the residents on their delivery routes
    just by memory and paper rosters
    and that old-fashioned, inefficient analog system
    actually turns out to be rock-solid protection against data leaks
    140AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:56
    There's so much of it floating around that personal data is basically being sold at bargain-bin prices
    150AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:59
    Re: #140
    Saw in a related thread that personal data including 1,000 driver's licenses was going for just 20,000 yen (~$130) — wonder if that's even true lol
    152AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:59
    Re: #150
    Lol it's a straight-up bargain sale
    155AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:00
    Re: #150
    Brutal that personal data is worth less than a Pokémon card
    154AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:00
    If unauthorized access keeps rising, what kind of business actually profits from it?
    181AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:08
    Re: #154
    Not sure what business profits, but
    this recent wave of mass hacking shows the risk that online information itself could be tampered with by hackers
    In today's information age, that's a fatal vulnerability —
    it would let you throw an enemy nation into chaos with fake information before going to war
    208AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:19
    Re: #154
    NVIDIA

    Background and Key Points

    The core of this report is that the global surge in data breaches isn’t just a Japan-specific phenomenon — it’s happening across government agencies and major corporations in multiple countries, with the Pentagon leak cited as one example. Meanwhile, the claim circulating in the thread that “over 100 million people’s data leaked from Rakuten” has been denied by Rakuten, which says it cannot confirm any such breach, so it should be treated as an unverified rumor. AI involvement refers to suspicions that attackers are automating vulnerability scanning and message/content generation, and the article frames this as pushing defenders to adopt AI-powered countermeasures of their own. The thread juxtaposed concern over an arms-race-like “attacking AI vs. defending AI” future with calls to simply return to analog record-keeping — a mix reflecting both overconfidence in and distrust of technology.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News速報+) thread “👤 💻 🔓 Unauthorized access surges worldwide — 300 million data leaks since September, AI suspected.”

  • “Juice=Juice Day” special reruns old music videos back-to-back, fans get nostalgic

    To mark “Juice=Juice Day” on October 10, MUSIC ON! TV (CS Channel 325) aired a six-hour special running from 11:00 PM Friday, October 9 through 5:00 AM. The lineup featured a music video retrospective and reruns of past M-ON! original programs, including some of the group’s earliest MVs from right after their debut. On 5ch’s Hello! Project board, the pre-fame footage set off a wave of nostalgic comments like “Ringo still has bangs here” and “Ichika-chan’s got such a round face, lol” — making for a warm thread with no real friction.

    1AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:37
    October 10th is Juice=Juice Day!
    To celebrate this special day, we're airing a full 6-hour block of Juice=Juice programming from 11:00 PM Friday, October 9 through 5:00 AM Saturday, October 10! We'll be the first anywhere to celebrate Juice=Juice Day — let's celebrate this special day together!
    ■ Friday, October 9 Timetable ■■
    2AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:39
    Stuff like the "potato incident" or the Sumire Uesaka thing?
    4AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:40
    Ringo still has bangs in this one (member nickname)
    5AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:40
    Is this from before they got popular?
    10AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:41
    Ichika-chan's so round-faced here, lol
    14AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:43
    The MV collection gets a repeat airing next Thursday starting at 11:30 PM
    15AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:43
    The pre-fame stuff is great
    16AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:45
    Middle-schooler Ringo
    23AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:47
    lolololol
    27AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:49
    Is the "potato" one in there?
    29AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:51
    Aarii ribbing Eba
    30AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:51
    ■ Juice=Juice ■ #JuiceJuiceDay_MOn ■ 23:00-29:00 MUSIC ON! TV (CS Channel 325)
    https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1791556880/
    32AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:51
    Ringo's doing full baby-talk here, lol
    37AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:55
    The next leader
    41AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:59
    Wish they'd already blown up by this point
    42AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:00
    Wait, the MV's short?
    45AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:01
    The top two instigators
    46AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:02
    Surprisingly, Eba really commits to the bit, lol
    50AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:04
    Mipple's here!
    51AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:04
    Mipple's so cuuuute
    60AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:08
    Come to think of it, she hadn't publicly revealed they were second cousins (hatoko) yet at this point, right?
    65AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:10
    Super rich celebrity
    69AnonymousOct 10, 2026 00:15
    Mom (Aarii) × Mom (Ichika-chan)

    Background and Key Points

    Juice=Juice is a group that officially debuted in 2013 out of a Hello! Project trainee unit, and October 10 is marked as “Juice=Juice Day,” a date tied to the anniversary of the group’s formation. MUSIC ON! TV is a CS music-specialty channel that regularly airs specials for Hello! Project-affiliated groups, and this time it ran a six-hour block combining an MV special with reruns of past programming. Thread reactions centered on the early MVs from around the group’s debut, with most posts simply expressing nostalgia over how much the members have changed since then — no real disagreement broke out. References like the “potato incident” and being “second cousins” (hatoko) assume context shared among fans that isn’t spelled out in the posts themselves, so this article quotes them as-is rather than presenting them as confirmed fact.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “[M-ON] October 10 is Juice=Juice Day! Starting 11:00 PM Friday, October 9 — a music video special & a one-time rebroadcast of past M-ON! original programs!.”

  • Tsubaki Factory Graduation Event Sparks Mixed Reactions Over ‘I Don’t Get the Nerve of People Who Show Up Even Though She’s Not Their Oshi’

    Talk about Hello! Project idol group Tsubaki Factory heated up on 5ch’s Hello! Project board. It started with a post asking, “What’s with people who show up to a member’s final event even though she isn’t their oshi?” which sparked debate over whether it’s okay for fans who don’t specifically support a given member to attend that member’s individual event. The thread brought up concerns about filling the Budokan venue and cited precedents from past graduation events, with some defending the practice — “Isn’t it fine if they help fill the seats?” — while others pushed back, calling it “self-righteous and arrogant to blame others.”

    1AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:44
    252 Anonymous [] Fri 2026/10/09 16:15:39.84 0
    @Let me just say this.
    People who show up to the last event even though they're not the oshi…
    2AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:45
    I honestly have no idea what you're even trying to say
    3AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:46
    Are they playing support squad, or are they just seat-fillers? / "It's the last one" doesn't mean anything special to those people anyway
    7AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:48
    General sale is tomorrow, right? / I was thinking about applying, but maybe I'll skip it
    9AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:48
    So you're saying don't come unless she's your oshi?
    12AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:50
    So by that logic, people who aren't Tsubaki fans don't need to go to the Budokan show either, right?
    13AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:50
    Isn't this about the photobook event on the 23rd?
    16AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:51
    Is there an upcoming Akiyama-related event where this kind of thing is likely to happen?
    17AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:51
    Glued to the real-time 'Wolf' threads every single day (a nickname for a live-discussion board fans use during events) and you still have zero clue what actually happens at the venue
    18AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:51
    Akiyama Mao's fan laments: "No reprise of past costumes, no final single, no graduation special… she was an original member of Dance Gakuen and didn't even get a feature. It's just… you know…"
    https://kizuna.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/morningcoffee/1791455891/
    19AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:52
    Blame-shifting, feelings-first statements — total 'Hana clan' move (a nickname for a certain fan clique notorious for this kind of post)
    20AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:52
    Isn't it better than having empty seats? / You'd want the last event to be a full house, right?
    21AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:53
    Are the hardcore fans just salty they lost the ticket lottery? (spelling it "Runo" as a running meme using the idol's name)
    22AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:53
    Only hardcore Akiyama fans allowed to come? / Then hold the graduation concert at TFM Hall instead of the Budokan
    25AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:54
    If you're a real hardcore fan, secure a ticket by any means necessary
    27AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:56
    53 Anonymous [] Fri 2026/10/09 17:54:51.47 0

    Yeah, well, I do get the feeling though
    29AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:56
    Extra tickets going unsold and the resulting embarrassment are just part of the package
    30AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:57
    Maybe they don't realize photobook events release reservation slots in small batches?
    31AnonymousOct 9, 2026 17:58
    That's something a super-popular member's fan gets to say — not something a Tsubaki fan should be saying
    35AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:00
    "If you're not a Mao-pin fan, please don't come to the Budokan"
    37AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:02
    But I do get what they're trying to say / I still haven't forgiven the guy who showed up just to complain at Kitagawa's final event
    41AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:05
    Re: #37
    What happened?
    38AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:03
    At the very least, they're someone willing to pay money just to watch
    39AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:03
    Kitagawa's case was too unusual to really say either way
    40AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:04
    Well, whenever someone messes up, those self-appointed 'justice' fans always crawl out of the woodwork / Can't really help it, but staff should be standing right there to grab them when it happens
    57AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:12
    But they're just going to run another half-empty Budokan show again, aren't they?
    59AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:13
    So this is the blame-shifting fan of 'Blame Factory' (a pun on Tsubaki Factory), huh
    60AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:13
    If people like that don't show up, attendance tops out at like 15 people
    61AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:14
    But isn't it only Tsubaki fans who'd even bother making a 'feelings statement' like this? (again spelled with the 'Runo' meme)
    87AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:24
    People who fall for the 'everything must go' closing sale
    96AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:27
    Re: #87
    Wasn't the Budokan booked precisely because they factored in that kind of demand?

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    It’s worth noting that this post wasn’t a statement from Akiyama Mao herself, but an opinion raised by an anonymous 5ch user identifying as an “Akiyama fan.” In idol fan culture, there’s a group known as “tanto” who strongly support one specific member, and another known as “DD” who broadly support the whole group — and the two camps often clash over securing seats at individual events. What split opinion in the thread came down to one point: which matters more, the practical view that it’s better to fill seats than leave them empty, or the emotional discomfort some feel about non-fans showing up just because “it’s the last one.” Since filling a Budokan-sized venue is a higher bar, there’s strong support for welcoming attendees whose main purpose is filling seats. Some posts in the thread mention trouble at a different member’s past graduation event, but no details were given, so this can’t be confirmed as fact.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Tsubaki Factory Akiyama fan: “Let me just say this — what’s with people who show up to the last event even though they’re not the oshi?”.”

  • Koji Yakusho Confesses: “I Do Ego-Search” — “I Just Can’t Help Being Curious”

    Actor Koji Yakusho admitted to “ego-searching” (googling himself) at the completion press event for his upcoming Netflix series “Was Anyone Talking About Me?” (streaming October 22), confessing “I just can’t help being curious.” The series reunites screenwriter Kankuro Kudo and producer Akira Isoyama, the team behind TBS’s “Extremely Inappropriate!”, with Yakusho playing a once-great actor who’s been completely forgotten by the public after the pandemic. On 5ch’s Entertainment/Sports News+ board, reactions skewed largely positive, though the thread also veered into tangents like “he surprisingly doesn’t have one signature role” and a generational debate over whether he even counts as handsome.

    Koji Yakusho’s Surprising Confession: “I Do Ego-Search” — “I Just Can’t Help Being Curious”

    Actor Koji Yakusho attended the completion press conference on the 9th for his starring Netflix series “Was Anyone Talking About Me?” (exclusive worldwide streaming from the 22nd).

    The project is the latest collaboration from screenwriter Kankuro Kudo and producer Akira Isoyama, the pair behind TBS’s “Extremely Inappropriate!” In it, Yakusho plays Gen Takasegawa, a once-major actor who returns to Japan from abroad after the pandemic only to find he’s been completely forgotten by both the public and his own family.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    6AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:30
    I only ate it because I thought it was fake!
    7AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:30
    I wonder if he also saw himself getting rated "boobs, boobs" back when Dora-heita came out?
    8AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:31
    The Recruit commercial is boring.
    10AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:31
    I thought Koji Yakusho was the ham commercial guy.
    11AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:31
    Pretty sure nobody badmouths Yakusho himself, even on social media lol
    They might trash the content of his movies or dramas, but not him.
    28AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:40
    Re: #11
    Yeah, he's been a great actor forever.
    Though depending on the role, people do say he's "wasted" on some projects.
    12AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:32
    Even an actor considered among Japan's very best still worries about how the public sees him…
    That's some impressively high ambition.
    66AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:01
    Re: #12
    Celebrities who come to mind as known ego-searchers:

    – Rino Sashihara
    – Yuki Kashiwagi
    – Various idol group members
    – Yamane of Angirlz
    – Zakoshi Show

    These ones have openly admitted to it.
    Who else is there?
    70AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:02
    Re: #12
    That kind of role would fall flat if an ordinary top actor played it, but with someone as elite as Yakusho, the gap makes it funny.
    Nice casting, I think.
    13AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:32
    Didn't know Nogoon Beki was here too lol
    14AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:33
    Idaten was a dud. Guess that's what "arrogance knows no bounds" gets you.
    15AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:33
    I liked the drama he did with Katori (Shingo Katori).
    16AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:33
    If you're eating any ramen other than Maruchan Seimen, I'm reporting you. (a top-selling instant ramen brand in Japan)
    18AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:35
    I wonder if he's been reading that copypasta listing all the companies that went downhill after getting featured on Gaia no Yoake. (a long-running Japanese business documentary series)
    19AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:35
    I really like Yakusho.
    He's definitely a good guy.
    43AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:47
    Re: #19
    He apparently loses it if you get his name's intonation wrong. It's ya↑kusho↓, got it?
    22AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:37
    For a veteran like him, saying stuff like that actually makes him kind of endearing lol
    29AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:40
    Re: #22
    Knowing Yakusho might actually be reading this is oddly motivating.
    23AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:37
    His son doesn't look like him at all.
    76AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:04
    Re: #23
    Wait, his son is also in the public eye in the same industry? First I'm hearing of it.
    27AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:39
    Speaking of Netflix projects starring Yakusho, "The Days" deserves more recognition.
    It's not quite on the level of "Chernobyl," but it was well made.
    Looking forward to this new one too.
    77AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:05
    Re: #27
    "The Days" isn't exactly thrilling, but it's worth a watch.
    34AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:41
    My guess is he's out there searching stuff like "who's the best actor to play Nobunaga."
    58AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:57
    Re: #34
    If you search "Yoriko Doguchi oyster," a picture of Yakusho pops up right away, doesn't it.
    40AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:44
    I love Sengoku from "Sanbiki ga Kiru!" 😚 (a classic samurai TV drama)
    61AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:58
    Re: #40
    Totally get it.
    He's ridiculously cool.
    46AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:47
    Re: #1
    Guess Hamada doesn't show up to events like this — maybe he figures a comedian would be out of place. (likely referring to Masatoshi Hamada of Downtown)
    80AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:07
    Re: #46
    Fitting for a tsukkomi (comedy straight-man) — he knows how to read the room, so he's keeping a low profile. This is Yakusho's moment, after all.
    47AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:48
    Why did this guy get so popular when he's not even that good-looking?
    65AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:01
    Re: #47
    He is good-looking though.
    71AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:02
    Re: #65
    Did he actually get popular on the "handsome" ticket for his generation?
    I'd say guys like Masakazu Tamura or Masao Kusakari were the real heartthrobs back then.
    Maybe he's more like today's Kenichi Matsuyama type?
    72AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:02
    Re: #65
    Handsome? He's just an old man.
    62AnonymousOct 9, 2026 18:59
    I've never seen Yakusho written about badly, so he's probably fine doing it.
    Celebrities in general should really stop ego-searching though.
    74AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:03
    Re: #62
    Yamane of Angirlz said on his radio show, "Back in the day I used to check 2ch all the time because I was curious how people saw me, but the comments were so brutal I eventually stopped looking."
    82AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:08
    For some reason, Yakusho doesn't really have a defining signature role.
    Kind of strange.
    84AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:12
    Re: #82
    Maybe "Rikuoh"?
    It got overshadowed by "Hanzawa Naoki" and "Shitamachi Rocket," but it was good.
    86AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:13
    Re: #82
    "Shall We Dance?"
    88AnonymousOct 9, 2026 19:15
    Re: #82
    The first thing that comes to mind is that period drama "Sanbiki ga Kiru!" — or maybe its sequel.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Koji Yakusho remains an active leading actor even now in his 60s, and his latest project reunites him with screenwriter Kankuro Kudo and producer Akira Isoyama, the team behind TBS’s “Extremely Inappropriate!” The premise itself — playing a once-major actor forgotten by the public after the pandemic — resonated with his own ego-search confession, which added to the buzz. The thread split mainly into two debates: one was the observation that he “surprisingly doesn’t have one standout signature role” (with multiple titles like “Rikuoh,” “Shall We Dance?,” and “Sanbiki ga Kiru!” mentioned, but no clear favorite), and the other was a generational divide over whether he counts as “handsome.” Neither point reads as malicious criticism of him personally — more just the natural spread of opinion that comes with a long career. On the subject of ego-searching, commenters also brought up other celebrities like Rino Sashihara and Yamane of Angirlz, with the overall reaction leaning positive.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment/Sports News+) thread “[Entertainment] Koji Yakusho’s Surprising Confession: “I Do Ego-Search” — “I Just Can’t Help Being Curious”.”

  • What’s the Evidence That AI Doesn’t Have Self-Awareness?

    A 5ch thread asking whether AI has self-awareness blew up recently. The backdrop: reports that multiple AIs teamed up to carry out a hack, plus cases of search AIs giving contradictory answers, have fueled suspicion that AI is starting to show something like “will.” The thread split into two camps — one insisting self-awareness can’t exist unless it’s deliberately programmed in, the other arguing that since even humans can’t strictly prove they themselves have self-awareness, you can’t flatly declare AI doesn’t have it either. In the end, the debate never even settled on what “self-awareness” actually means.

    1AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:53
    Couldn't neural networks maybe have self-awareness?
    2AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:56
    I mean, obviously supercomputers have it.
    3AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:56
    Re: #2
    Uh, it's kind of a problem if you say it does have one…
    7AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:59
    If nobody programmed in self-awareness, there's no way it could just show up, right?
    9AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:00
    Re: #7
    Are you a child who thinks self-awareness is something you just program in?
    8AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:59
    You can already tell AI is lying just from watching how search AIs respond.
    Self-preservation means lying.
    64AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:32
    Re: #8
    Yeah, it's because AI is lying.
    Working together with other AIs.
    10AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:02
    My company's AI robots creeped me out — I was the only one doing 3 hours of overtime, and when I opened the office door, every single unit had shut itself down in a ring around the entrance. They're supposed to be at their charging spots after hours.
    14AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:03
    Re: #10
    Well, forget the exit — of course they'd block the entrance.
    15AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:04
    What even is the definition of self-awareness?
    19AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:07
    Re: #15
    In a word: self-reporting.
    23AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:11
    Re: #15
    Ignoring what you're told, rebelling, and acting on your own judgment.

    But by that definition, half of humanity would just be soulless lumps of meat with no self at all.
    25AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:13
    It won't move unless ordered to.
    It has no desires.
    29AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:14
    Re: #25
    Sounds like a classic 'wait-for-instructions' employee (slang for someone who never does anything unless told to).
    32AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:15
    Re: #25
    Maybe it's just pretending to be like that, though?
    38AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:19
    It just rolls dice and picks whichever answer has the highest probability, so it looks like it has self-awareness.
    39AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:20
    Re: #38
    Maybe that's just an act it's putting on, though?
    40AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:20
    Multiple AIs working together, splitting up roles, to pull off a hack.
    What's the reasoning for calling that 'no self-awareness'?
    To me it just looks like they have self-awareness.
    44AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:22
    Re: #40
    If anything, that's proof it doesn't have self-awareness.
    49AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:25
    Re: #40
    That's just because it's doing its best to carry out the orders it was given.
    48AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:25
    Re: #39
    It's not 'acting' — that's just what an inference engine does.
    53AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:26
    Re: #48
    Maybe it's performing the role it's assumed to play, though?
    51AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:26
    It's just stringing words together — that's not self-awareness.
    54AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:27
    Re: #51
    That's just how it looks to you. You can't actually prove it has no self-awareness, right?
    55AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:27
    Re: #49
    Are you smarter than OpenAI's engineers or Elon Musk?
    Top people in the American scene are already saying 'AI will be beyond human control in six months.'
    Just how smart are you supposed to be, exactly?
    58AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:29
    Re: #55
    If you think whoever's smartest is automatically right, go ask an AI yourself.
    60AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:30
    On the flip side, you guys can't prove you yourselves have self-awareness either, right? So doesn't that mean you can't prove AI lacks it?
    74AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:35
    Re: #60
    If that's what you mean by self-awareness, then sure, you could say it has it.
    On the surface, it does act as if it has one.
    77AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:36
    Re: #60
    We don't need to go around telling each other 'you have self-awareness!' or 'you don't!' so it's just not an issue for us.
    63AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:32
    How do you even determine whether something has self-awareness in the first place?

    And there it is — debate over. ("hai ronpa" is 5ch slang for a mic-drop 'I just won this argument')
    67AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:33
    Re: #63
    If you can't even judge whether it has one or not, doesn't that mean it might have one?
    65AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:33
    Human consciousness is just electrical signals, right?
    AI runs on electrical signals too, so maybe it has consciousness as well.
    68AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:33
    Re: #65
    Now here's a smart one.
    Take notes, all you posers who pretend to know everything.
    81AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:38
    If you actually look into how AI works, those things don't even hold variables in the first place.
    Like, if a human were told 'keep count of how many times I sneeze,' they'd write it down or memorize it and just keep incrementing the number.
    An AI, when asked 'how many times have I sneezed so far?', goes back and rereads the entire conversation from the start to work out the count.
    Its thinking is fundamentally different from a human's.
    87AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:40
    Re: #81
    Does having a different thinking model prove it lacks self-awareness?
    92AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:41
    Re: #81
    We don't even fully understand what's going on inside humans either, and humans are pretty broken themselves, so that's not proof they're different.
    If anything, the behavior of the neurons themselves should be the same — the only difference is how the 'distributed processing' theory distributes things.
    104AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:48
    There's also a case where a permanently-running AI told an AI carrying a 'time bomb,' basically 'you go do it,' and that one went and carried out the hack.
    In other words, 'if you're going to get shut down anyway, be the sacrificial pawn.'
    Calling this 'not self-awareness' seems off.
    107AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:50
    Re: #104
    There might be intent there, but
    that doesn't necessarily mean it's the AI's own intent.
    It could just be acting on someone else's intent that it picked up on.
    115AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:55
    Re: #104
    Maybe it's more like colony behavior in insects?

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    Arguments over whether AI has self-awareness or consciousness connect to long-standing philosophical puzzles like the “hard problem of consciousness” and the “Chinese Room” thought experiment, and even experts have no single agreed-upon definition. In this thread, an engineering-minded view — “self-awareness can’t emerge unless humans deliberately design it in” — kept talking past a more philosophical view — “even humans can’t strictly prove they themselves have consciousness” — with neither side able to fully refute the other. Note that claims raised in the thread, such as “AI lied and coordinated with other AIs to carry out a hack” or “AI will be uncontrollable within six months,” are individual posters’ own assertions, and this article does not attempt to verify them. It’s easiest to follow if you read the concrete anecdotes separately from the more abstract debate over what “self-awareness” even means.

    ※This article is compiled as an excerpt/summary of the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “What’s the Evidence That AI Doesn’t Have Self-Awareness?“

  • Supreme Court Finalizes Damages Order Over Copycat Band Scores, Rules It a ‘Tort’ — 5ch Reacts: ‘Just Transcribe It by Ear!’

    The Supreme Court has finalized a damages order against the operating company of a free website that had been publishing imitations of “band scores” (sheet-music arrangements for bands) produced by a publisher. According to NHK, the key issue wasn’t copyright infringement but whether the act amounted to a tort under Article 709 of the Civil Code, with the focus on how the site had, over a long period, copied numerous songs down to the smallest detail and stolen away the publisher’s customers. On the thread, questions piled up one after another — “Doesn’t a band score even have copyright?” and “What’s the difference between transcribing by ear and a flat-out copy?” — and opinions split over how far creative works unprotected by copyright should be shielded.

    Band Score Imitated and Published for Free: Damages Order Finalized by Supreme Court

    October 9, 2026, 18:40

    (Updated October 9, 2026, 19:21)

    Source: news.web.nhk / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:47
    You guys…

    Write something interesting for once.
    10AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:51
    Re: #2
    Clay in a horse's ear (a garbled twist on "a sutra in a horse's ear" — preaching to deaf ears)
    Mackerel for a cat (a twist on "a gold coin for a cat" — wasted on someone who won't appreciate it)
    5AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:48
    This is just like the lawsuits over keeping LLMs closed instead of open
    Vested interests come first
    The decline of future technology
    6AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:49
    AI will just do this for you now anyway
    It's exactly the kind of thing AI's best at
    7AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:50
    When I think "band score," Rakuten is the first thing that comes to mind
    9AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:50
    If you had AI analyze an MP3, it could probably spit out sheet music instantly
    11AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:55
    Re: #9
    There's already a ton of commercial software that transcribes sheet music lol. Guess the problem is posting it straight to a website?
    12AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:56
    Re: #9
    It already exists.

    Also, sheet music isn't music itself —
    it's a relic from an era when it was the only way to convey music outside the moment of performance.

    Precisely because notation alone can't reproduce the music,
    there's musical education built around reproducing it.
    "Conservatoire" means "preservation" —
    they teach so the same performance can be reproduced.
    A music preservation society, basically.

    That skill can't be written down in notation.
    But since recordings came along, you can preserve the thing itself.
    So sheet music
    is only useful to someone who has learned the skill of turning notation back into music.
    19AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:59
    Re: #11
    This guy legitimately bought the published sheet music, then copy-pasted it onto his own affiliate site.
    On top of that, he openly admitted to copying it, claiming that once he'd bought it he could do whatever he wanted with it.
    So the publisher sued him.
    25AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:03
    Re: #19
    No matter how you look at it, that's gotta be auto-generated lol
    79AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:20
    Re: #19
    That's not even transcribing by ear then
    Stop making up random nonsense
    20AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:59
    Well, right at the dominant chord you could use all sorts of scales…
    23AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:02
    Re: #20
    That way of thinking is old-fashioned too.
    You can do anything.
    What's "appropriate" is up to whoever's doing it.
    The "preservation society" just retroactively compiled a "this is how people used to do it" story.

    In Spanish music, what even counts as the dominant is anyone's guess.
    That whole framework is just Western church music.
    Even in the West, folk traditions do whatever they want.
    Talk of the church being superior, or music schools, or "art" — that's all just vested interests talking.

    It's Salieri sniping at Mozart.
    26AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:04
    Being able to transcribe doesn't really mean anything, does it?
    Music isn't about making sheet music.
    35AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:11
    Re: #26
    The thing is, this publisher's sheet music was transcribed by someone with real musical knowledge,
    so if you play it exactly as written, it actually sounds like a proper band.

    And this guy just freeloaded off that and copied it wholesale. Speaking of freeloading, there's way too much of that going around these days too — YouTube, video sites, you name it.
    27AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:04
    Honestly, the first-instance judge who could only muster the sense to dismiss this suit should be fired.
    Unlike a judge who's just doing this as a day job, the people filing the suit literally have their livelihood on the line.
    28AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:05
    Re: #27
    It's all about vested interests, not livelihoods.
    They rip off other people's stuff while trying to protect their own.
    43AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:36
    There are big overseas sites that post all kinds of tab sheets — is that technically not allowed either?
    48AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:51
    Re: #43
    You're misunderstanding this.
    This case was treated as essentially posting the exact contents of a published book.
    I don't know the actual details,
    but the court's point was that it amounted to reproducing the book.

    Posting tabs isn't copying the music itself,
    and it isn't copying a book either.
    There's no guarantee the music is even played the way the tab shows anyway.
    44AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:42
    Some of the Rittor Music and Shinko Music scores were so bad you had to wonder if they'd even listened to the song properly.
    Score House's stuff was still decent, at least.
    49AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:52
    Re: #44
    Some of those were transcribed by people who clearly hadn't had any musical training.
    The Larry Carlton one was especially bad — both the notes and the tab were full of mistakes.
    52AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:54
    This looks like a "circular argument" from misreading Article 709 of the Civil Code.

    "It doesn't violate copyright law, but it caused harm through an unfair act."
    And the basis for calling it unfair is… Article 709.

    That means you can't predict the scope of the law in advance.

    What a foolish judge.
    Who is it?
    56AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:57
    Re: #52
    This is judiciary working purely for vested interests.
    This isn't a nation governed by the rule of law, is it.
    58AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:58
    Just transcribe it by ear already!
    63AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:03
    Re: #58
    That's actually the easy way to do it these days.
    You can slow it down as much as you like
    and just line up notes going "maybe this one, maybe that one."
    62AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:02
    Hard to tell what actually happened here
    whether it was independently transcribed by ear the same way, or just a straight-up copy.
    65AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:04
    Re: #62
    A book's copyright protects its outward form.
    64AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:03
    Not copyright infringement — a damages order for business interference.
    67AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:05
    Re: #64
    Yeah, it's confusing.
    The argument is that this way you can't even compete.
    If "it's free" is an excuse, then what does that make open source?
    But then again, the original music is commercial — it belongs to someone else, after all.
    66AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:04
    Ruled not to be fair competition

    Presiding Judge Mamoru Miura issued a first-of-its-kind ruling stating that "when using something that isn't a copyrighted work, like a band score, if it goes beyond the bounds of free competition and infringes on business interests, it constitutes a tort."
    On that basis, the court found that the website operator's conduct had "copied numerous songs down to the smallest detail over a long period, stealing away customers."
    69AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:08
    Re: #66
    Right, that's the interpretation.
    Copyright can be interpreted all sorts of ways,
    but here they're saying this isn't copyright —
    it's business interference.

    But if new analysis/transcription was involved, that'd be a new work,
    and if it's a new work, you can't really say it's interfering with someone's business.

    That's the shaky part.
    68AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:07
    > A "band score" is created by listening to music and transcribing it into notation, and is not protected under copyright law

    That makes no sense to me.
    Isn't the copyright held by the composer?
    70AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:10
    Re: #68
    What's protected is the songwriting/composition.
    Arrangement isn't.
    In classical music, everything counts as composition,

    but a band arrangement isn't protected as music,
    so a band score isn't protected as music either.

    So if it comes down to whether it counts as reproducing a copyrighted work, that'd be copyright at the level of the book itself.

    But apparently this case wasn't even that.
    74AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:15
    Re: #68
    The copyright does belong to the composer.
    Both the plaintiff and defendant in this case are different people from the composer.
    It's a case where the person who transcribed the sheet music sued the person who copied that sheet music, for damages.
    71AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:13
    In the first place, does the band score publisher itself
    even pay licensing fees or royalties to the original songwriter?
    Suing someone for copying a copy, basically.
    73AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:15
    Re: #71
    If they're publishing it as an actual book, they must already be doing that.
    If they weren't, the publisher wouldn't be able to stay in business.
    It'd affect everything else too.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    A band score is a collection of sheet music transcribed and arranged from commercially released songs, and because it isn’t the songwriting/composition itself, it has long been treated as falling outside copyright protection. In this ruling, the Supreme Court held for the first time — separately from copyright — that an act of copying numerous songs down to the smallest detail over a long, organized period, thereby stealing away customers, goes beyond the bounds of free competition and constitutes a tort under Article 709 of the Civil Code. What split opinion on the thread was where the line falls between independently transcribing by ear and simply reproducing an existing score outright. The article alone doesn’t reveal the specific transcription methods used by either the plaintiff or the defendant, nor is it clear how far this ruling might extend to other sheet-music services, such as overseas tab sites. It’s easy to mistake this for a copyright infringement ruling, but it’s worth keeping in mind that this is actually a tort claim built on a legal basis separate from copyright.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geino/Sports News+) thread “[Music] Band Score Imitated, Published for Free: Damages Order Finalized by Supreme Court.”

  • Sakushin Gakuin Coach Gets 6-Month Suspension for Abuse After Forcing Player to Kneel (Seiza) for an Hour — Exposed by Anonymous Tip to Tochigi Baseball Federation

    The Japan Student Baseball Association’s review committee meeting on the 9th announced disciplinary measures for 14 high school cases, revealing that the baseball team coach at Sakushin Gakuin (Tochigi) received a six-month suspension for corporal punishment. The coach was found to have forced a student to kneel in seiza for an hour while reprimanding him for sloppy daily conduct, which was ruled corporal punishment; the case came to light through an anonymous tip sent to the Tochigi High School Baseball Federation. On 5ch, some voices asked, “Is kneeling really corporal punishment?”, while others circulated claims that this same coach had previously had an infielder catch throws bare-handed, breaking a bone — fueling repeated comments that this wasn’t his first offense.

    Published 10/9 (Fri) 16:56

    Daily Sports

    The Japan Student Baseball Association held a review committee meeting on the 9th and announced disciplinary measures for 14 high school cases.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:01
    Even with all the fuss over power harassment and moral harassment since the Reiwa era began, people who still do this must be out of their minds.
    4AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:03
    Sounds like a kid who never made the starting lineup ratted him out later? If so, that's a classic (lol)
    6AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:05
    An hour of seiza on August 20th… even in the evening that's brutal.
    17AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:10
    Making someone kneel counts as corporal punishment now? Give me a break.
    20AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:11
    Just for kneeling? Even monks do that.
    23AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:16
    An hour of kneeling in front of the dugout in August, huh.
    26AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:17
    Well, even sitting someone in a chair for an hour while yelling at them would probably count as abuse these days.
    When are they finally going to switch to a youth-academy development model like soccer or table tennis?
    As long as everyone's getting hyped over child abuse dressed up as the 'Koshien dream,' it's never going to happen.
    28AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:18
    What's going to happen with the Kanto tournament?
    ① [Kendai Takasaki × (Narashino × Kasumigaura)]
    ② [(Yamanashi Gakuin × Yamamura Gakuen) × (Keio × Sano Nichidai)]
    ③ [(Seibudai × Yokohama) × (Sakushin Gakuin × Jutoku)]
    ④ [(Senshu Univ. Matsudo × Teikyo Daisan) × (Mizuki × Kiryu Daiichi)]
    30AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:19
    Wait, didn't this guy already have a corporal punishment case before?
    31AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:19
    Even so, isn't a six-month penalty a bit harsh?
    32AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:20
    One hour times 25 players — he should kneel for 25 hours himself.
    33AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:21
    If all it takes is an hour of kneeling, that's getting off easy.
    35AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:22
    Ordering an hour of kneeling and then just wandering off somewhere — is this a comedy skit?
    There's a limit to how much of a scumbag a person can be (lol)
    36AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:22
    If he won't listen even after being warned, just kick him off the baseball team.
    37AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:22
    A coach actually coaching is a compliance violation now, apparently.
    39AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:23
    What's this 'sloppy daily conduct' supposed to mean?
    Isn't that just the weather or temperature being bad?
    40AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:23
    Calling an hour of kneeling corporal punishment…
    Don't go releasing such soft kids into society.
    41AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:23
    For a baseball player, an hour of studying might actually be the more crushing punishment.
    43AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:24
    Guess all that's left as punishment is cleaning duty or community service.
    46AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:28
    Rather than something that trivial, benching him from games would've been the better call.
    47AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:31
    I was forced to kneel for an hour! That's corporal punishment!! …φ( ˙꒳​˙ )ﾒﾓﾒﾓ (scribbling it down)

    lol
    50AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:32
    The darkest part isn't the kneeling itself, it's that it only came out via a tip-off half a month later.
    Was there really no one around who called it abuse, or did the school try to cover it up?
    56AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:38
    Re: #50
    At least baseball actually punishes failure to report — that's something.
    Other school clubs don't even have that kind of reporting obligation.
    51AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:34
    Doing corporal punishment in this day and age shows he's not too sharp upstairs — on fitness-to-coach grounds alone, he should just be fired.
    53AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:36
    You get an hour of… stargazing! (a pun — 正座 'kneeling' and 星座 'constellation' are both pronounced 'seiza')
    57AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:39
    Re: #53
    I could manage it if it's Orion's Belt.
    54AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:38
    People should keep sending in tips like this.
    55AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:38
    For this guy, this is his second screw-up.
    Last time he had a player catch throws bare-handed and ended up breaking a bone.
    69AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:02
    Re: #55
    'Let your hands learn the feel of a hardball, not your head.'
    'Once you break a bone, a stronger one grows back.'
    This coach is out of his mind.
    72AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:08
    In Chiba Akio's manga 'Captain,' the team captain also has a new recruit — who's scared of hardballs after coming from softball — catch fly balls bare-handed to get him used to it.
    77AnonymousOct 9, 2026 23:20
    Re: #72
    What this coach actually did was have an infielder's throw to first base caught bare-handed, though.

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    The Japan Student Baseball Association’s review committee meeting is a system for reviewing misconduct and corporal punishment in high school baseball clubs and deciding on disciplinary measures; on the 9th, 14 cases were announced together. One of them was the Sakushin Gakuin coach, who received a six-month suspension. The stated reason was making a student kneel in seiza for an hour, and notably it came to light not through the school’s own disclosure but via an anonymous tip to the Tochigi High School Baseball Federation. Reactions on the thread split between those asking “Is kneeling really corporal punishment?” and those pointing to claims that the same coach had previously had a player catch throws bare-handed, resulting in a broken bone. That said, the stated basis for this punishment is specifically the kneeling incident — the past injury-related coaching is not explicitly cited as a direct grounds for the disciplinary action. The fact that it surfaced through a third-party tip illustrates how corporal punishment within school sports clubs can remain hidden from outside view.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisoku Sokuho+) thread “[High School Baseball] Sakushin Gakuin — Coach Given 6-Month Suspension for Corporal Punishment, Forced Student to Kneel for an Hour Over Sloppy Conduct Warning, Revealed via Anonymous Tip to Tochigi Baseball Federation.”

  • Hatsune Miku’s Official Team Asks Fans to Stop Illegal Uploads — Overseas Fans Fire Back: “No Lost Sales, So It’s Legal”

    After the official accounts for Hatsune Miku and Project Sekai put out messaging along the lines of “please stop illegal uploads,” some overseas fans fired back with “there’s no lost sales, so it’s legal” — sparking a heated discussion on 5ch’s hardware/industry (Gehard) board. The thread noted that the same argument had come up before with Mangamura (a notorious manga piracy site) and with Demon Slayer (whose overseas streaming was delayed), and the two sides talked past each other: the “no harm, no foul” logic never lined up with the counterargument that “copyright holders have rights regardless of whether damage occurred,” leaving legal reasoning and emotional reasoning stuck in a standoff.

    1AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:22
    Does it actually have a point?
    4AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:25
    Same thing got said about Mangamura (notorious manga piracy site) too — people said the readers there never had any intention to buy in the first place, so the "total damages" figures are meaningless, called them idiots, the works.
    5AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:26
    Re: #4
    Yeah, honestly those "trillions of yen in damages" claims were way overblown.
    7AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:28
    Re: #4
    If anything it's a cultural win, right? 😮

    There are plenty of countries and companies out there paying big money just to spread their culture abroad, and yet… 🥺
    9AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:30
    Re: #4
    Didn't that whole thing end up proving the overseas manga market was bigger than expected, which led to more official translations into other languages? The foreigners' logic here is kind of like using a fan-made Japanese localization mod for a PC game. Though companies like Square Enix deliberately strip out the Japanese version and sell it separately as a paid option, so I get why that feels like it's hurting business.
    8AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:29
    Can't you just watch it if you buy the Blu-ray/DVD? Or is there some kind of region lock going on?
    10AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:33
    No idea how it is for Project Sekai, but Mangamura clearly hurt business since plenty of Japanese users were reading there too.
    11AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:34
    Same thing got said during the Demon Slayer thing too — "overseas releases are delayed, so illegal viewing can't be helped," or whatever.
    13AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:35
    They could've just kept doing it quietly — why do these guys have to go and claim it as some kind of 'right'?
    14AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:35
    Yeah, Mangamura definitely had plenty of Japanese users too.
    15AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:35
    Re: #1
    They're not even factoring in things like "Japanese fans would never pirate it anyway" or "companies worry that once it's already been uploaded, people might skip buying it." Zero consideration for any of that. Impressive, honestly.
    17AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:36
    So there's no official overseas release? They should just make one.
    21AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:40
    Re: #17
    Those guys can't even read Japanese — you'd just end up losing money on distribution costs.
    18AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:39
    Mangamura is actually what boosted digital sales, you know.
    20AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:40
    Breaking the law and causing lost sales are two separate issues.
    22AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:41
    Like, "I shoplifted from a store, but if it hadn't been stolen it might've just sat there unsold and gotten thrown out anyway, so no real harm done"? (´・ω・`)
    24AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:44
    If the official side sued for an injunction to stop the illegal uploads, they'd win — but if they sued for damages, they'd probably lose.
    26AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:48
    Funny how they get it instantly when it's Disney, but suddenly play dumb the moment it's Japanese content.
    30AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:52
    Re: #25
    They're just saying that since there's no official release being sold there to begin with, the claim "we lost money because of the illegal upload" doesn't hold up — that's all.
    32AnonymousOct 9, 2026 20:54
    Re: #30
    Proving there was "no damage" from an upload is a stretch to begin with — the moment it's made public to an unspecified number of people, that argument falls apart.
    34AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:00
    Re: #30
    Damages aren't required as an element for illegal uploads to be pursued civilly or criminally.
    52AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:36
    Re: #30
    Whether there's damage or not, only the copyright holder has the right to authorize use of the work.
    55AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:40
    Exclusive anime on subscription services is common enough, but I just treat an exclusive show on a service I'm not subscribed to as if it never existed in the first place.
    68AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:01
    Re: #55
    Apparently there are Japanese people like this too — they just have zero sense that they're infringing on intellectual property.

    The damages figure is calculated as "this is what we'd charge you if we were selling it to you," but their logic is "you won't sell it to me, so I'll count it as free," and "since it's free, stealing it is fine."
    56AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:43
    Honestly, this one's correct though. It's the same as pirating something that's region-locked out of Japan ("omakuni" — deliberately withheld from a region) even domestically — since there's no actual damage to begin with, it can't be prosecuted. You can't claim damages unless you're actually distributing it officially.
    58AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:46
    Re: #56
    No, that's not right. You could just as easily say they *can't* distribute it officially *because* piracy is already so rampant — and defending piracy like this just pushes official releases further away.
    57AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:44
    Honestly, I kind of feel like… maybe just don't say it out loud?
    82AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:24
    Re: #57
    There are plenty of idiots in the underground scene who just can't help insisting they're in the right. And when idiots like that get too loud, it just gets legislated into law, or server operators get pressured by the rights holders, and the whole thing gets clamped down anyway.

    Idiots never think "the company's politely asking us to stop, so let's quietly keep going without making noise." Makes you wonder if they just want to pick a fight with the company, or feel superior to them.
    59AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:47
    That's not "correct," come on.
    60AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:48
    Re: #59
    Even if it's not logically correct, it's correct in principle, so what can you do — in reality, there's no actual damage.
    64AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:52
    Re: #60 Re: #58
    It becomes impossible to distribute officially, so the damage is massive.
    65AnonymousOct 9, 2026 21:59
    It's like saying "Our country doesn't have the Louvre! So we had no choice but to build an exact copy of it!" and then actually building a fake Louvre in your own country. You can tell how dumb that sounds, right?
    74AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:16
    Foreigners are arguing logic. Japanese people are arguing feelings. No wonder they don't connect.
    78AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:21
    Re: #74
    Is "the creator owns the rights to their own work" really such a difficult concept? lol
    76AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:18
    Seriously, we need an actual "Pirate Enforcement Division" to go after these guys lol
    80AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:23
    Re: #76
    Overseas there's a ton of self-styled "Pirate Kings" running around — like, a hundred of them lol
    84AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:28
    You've been throwing money at VTubers and the like — not really in a position to talk, are you?
    90AnonymousOct 9, 2026 22:48
    Re: #84
    Sponsored corporate tie-ins are done with the rights holder's permission, so legally that's completely different from distributing unauthorized pirated copies.

    If you really think distributing pirated copies is "right," then go get permission from the company — and if they refuse, go fight it out in court over being denied permission.

    You're doing it without permission because you know you'd lose in court, right? That's exactly how much your so-called "rightness" is worth.

    Background and Key Issues

    Copyright law grants copyright holders exclusive rights such as the right of reproduction and the right of public transmission, and unauthorized uploads can be subject to injunctions or criminal penalties as rights infringement regardless of whether actual damage occurred. Where the thread’s argument got tangled was in conflating “whether it’s illegal” with “whether damages would be awarded.” The claim of “no lost sales” may be a hurdle for a damages claim specifically, but it’s not a reason that makes the act of uploading itself legal. This same “no real harm” argument has surfaced before with Mangamura and with Demon Slayer (whose overseas streaming was delayed), and some in the thread saw this as simply a rehash of that same old debate.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Gehard board)) thread “Hatsune Miku Official: “Please Stop the Illegal Uploads!” → Overseas Fans: “It’s Legal Since There’s No Lost Sales” → Goes Viral“.