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  • Xbox and PS5 Hit Record Sales Slump — 5ch: “PS5 at Its Lowest Level in 13 Years”

    Xbox and PlayStation sales have fallen into a record slump in the US home console market. Unit sales for the January–August 2026 period dropped 33% year-over-year for Xbox and 25% for PlayStation. Rising component prices have also pushed average purchase prices to record highs, with the PS5 hitting its lowest level since 2013 and Xbox its lowest since 2020. On 5ch’s hardware/industry (“Geha”) board, data was posted showing that the Nintendo Switch2 topped both unit sales and revenue in the US over the same period, sparking debate over which data could be trusted. Some pointed out that Japan is the only country where Xbox is outselling its previous generation, drawing attention to the stark contrast between the domestic and overseas markets.

    In the US home console market, Microsoft’s Xbox and Sony’s PlayStation have fallen into a record sales slump. Unit sales for January–August 2026 were down 33% year-over-year for Xbox and 25% for PlayStation. Tariffs and rising AI-related demand have driven up component prices, pushing up console prices as well. With no clear timeline for next-generation consoles, the market is facing a difficult situation.

    A major factor behind the sales slowdown is the rising price of the consoles themselves. From January to August 2026, US consumers paid an average of $529 (about ¥83,582) for a new Xbox console, up 26% year-over-year. PlayStation also rose 20% to an average of $597 (about ¥94,326). Average purchase prices for both brands hit record highs, with falling unit sales and surging prices happening at the same time.

    Home consoles typically get cheaper over time after launch. However, the current-generation Xbox and PlayStation 5 (PS5), which debuted in 2020, have kept getting more expensive even six years after release. This price trend runs opposite to the usual pattern, and the scale of the increases is unusually large.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:16
    Western games are finished
    Switch2 is the last bastion
    3AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:17
    "It's not just PS!"

    …nice spin
    10AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:20
    Re: #4
    ???
    Are you hallucinating?
    15AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:23
    Re: #10
    It was on top even during a properly measured period
    The Nintendo "pigs" (5ch slang for Nintendo fanboys) are looking away from this and trying to downplay it with some "VGChartz conspiracy" nonsense
    https://www.thegamebusiness.com/p/how-did-ps5-boxed-games-sell-in-september
    25AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:27
    Re: #15
    Switch2 was #1 in US hardware sales for both August and year-to-date, in both units and revenue

    Hardware — Nintendo Switch 2 ranked #1 in the US hardware market in both unit sales and revenue, for both August and year-to-date (YTD) 2026. PlayStation 5 ranked #2 on every metric and period.
    https://bsky.app/profile/matpiscatella.bsky.social/post/3mxejcak6lk2n
    26AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:29
    Re: #15
    Well, now I know for sure you can't even tell the difference between the UK and the US
    12AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:21
    Everyone who said AI would lower game development costs has gone awfully quiet
    Guess it's not really the time to be saying that anymore
    39AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:34
    Re: #12
    Console prices and game development costs are two completely different things
    17AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:23
    What's going on with Switch2?
    38AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:34
    Re: #17
    Sure, sales dipped after the price hike, but it's nowhere near a record slump
    28AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:30
    Seriously, development costs and timelines have gotten to the point where botching just one title could be the end for a studio
    35AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:33
    Re: #28
    And yet the "short-bus crowd" (ableist 5ch slur for a rival fanbase) kept insisting for years that higher specs mean lower dev costs, huh
    31AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:31
    AAA games just aren't in demand the way they used to be
    Even looking at unit sales, they're getting crushed by indies
    Same goes for profit margins
    46AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:41
    Re: #31
    Companies should do what Capcom does and consistently put out AA titles
    But Sony just can't get off the AAA train lol
    34AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:32
    Feels like the whole industry is going to rally behind GTA6 and go all-in on promotion, right?
    Gaming media definitely wants to avoid a downturn too.
    37AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:33
    Re: #34
    The overall game market is actually trending upward
    The media's just steering in a different direction
    42AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:37
    Re: #34
    It's about 5 weeks from release and GTA6 barely has any promotion going

    Well, it's not so much that they're not doing it — they probably can't, because of the riots in France
    Worst case it could even get banned outright?
    Since everyone keeps blaming GTA for the influence
    49AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:43
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HUHVDiYWQAAttDV.jpg?name=orig

    Just this year alone:
    – Sony canceled the AFEELA electric vehicle
    – Sony handed control of BRAVIA over to the Chinese company TCL
    – Sony sold off its stake in EVO
    – Sony sold patents to its major rival, META
    At this point, it looks like Sony itself is the one dismantling Sony. 😂
    https://x.com/kaiser_drago/status/2108201366468395501?s=46
    102AnonymousOct 11, 2026 12:10
    Re: #49
    As for the EV thing, it was actually Honda that wanted to cancel it, not Sony
    They pivoted hard into EVs and are bleeding money, so they're in no position to be partnering with Sony anymore
    53AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:45
    So Xbox is doing well in Japan, but struggling overseas?
    59AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:47
    Re: #53
    As far as we know, Japan is the only country where Xbox is outselling its previous generation
    But the slump in the US and Europe is so massive there's no way that makes up for it
    60AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:48
    Should we mention that the Switch2 price hike started in September?
    65AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:51
    Re: #60
    The impact of the price hike only lasted like 3 days though
    At least based on what I'm seeing on US Amazon
    71AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:54
    Re: #60
    In the UK, which raised prices in September, hardware sales actually went up in September compared to August, so the same could happen in the US

    Coming in at #2 was the Nintendo Switch 2, up 70% from August and up 17% year-over-year from last September. Year-to-date, it's up 13% overall. Xbox came in at #3 — up 30% from August, but down 29% year-over-year from last September. Its overall year-to-date sales are up 1.7%.
    https://www.thegamebusiness.com/p/how-did-ps5-boxed-games-sell-in-september
    64AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:50
    Still, PCs have gotten way more expensive too, but people buy them anyway because they want one
    67AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:52
    Re: #64
    For PCs, gaming is just a bonus feature anyway
    73AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:55
    Of course it's not selling, right?
    Is that really so strange?
    Smartphones and PCs are going to stop selling too at this rate
    75AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:57
    Re: #73
    I'm pretty sure PC sales have been dropping hard too
    77AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:59
    Xbox's always been a non-entity in Japan anyway, so being told about its "slump" now doesn't really land
    85AnonymousOct 11, 2026 12:03
    Re: #77
    This isn't about Japan — it's about crap-box's (derisive 5ch nickname for Xbox) home turf, the US
    86AnonymousOct 11, 2026 12:03
    PS5's having its worst sales in 13 years
    Of course that's gonna make headlines
    87AnonymousOct 11, 2026 12:04
    Re: #86
    Lol, it's really that bad?
    95AnonymousOct 11, 2026 12:07
    Re: #86
    13 years ago means right around when PS3 was transitioning to PS4
    90AnonymousOct 11, 2026 12:06
    Smartphones and PCs cover basically all your needs
    And if you've got that special niche craving to play Nintendo games, that's what Switch is for

    So seriously, what's the point of crap-Station or crap-box (derisive 5ch nicknames for PlayStation/Xbox) even existing anymore?
    It's a position I genuinely can't wrap my head around
    103AnonymousOct 11, 2026 12:10
    Re: #90
    Then you can't play Wolverine!
    91AnonymousOct 11, 2026 12:06
    Hardware —

    PlayStation hardware unit sales fell 11% year-over-year in August (the lowest level for an August since 2013), while Xbox hardware unit sales fell 31% (the lowest level for an August since 2020).


    https://bsky.app/profile/matpiscatella.bsky.social/post/3mxejcak6lk2n
    94AnonymousOct 11, 2026 12:07
    Re: #91
    13 years ago puts it right around the PS3 era… so the worst sales since then, huh
    97AnonymousOct 11, 2026 12:08
    Re: #91
    Lowest since 2013, so genuinely the worst sales ever, huh
    98AnonymousOct 11, 2026 12:08
    Re: #91
    Lmao, PlayStation's done for ("owa-sute" — 5ch slang for "PlayStation is finished")

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    These figures are based on tallies from the US research firm Circana. Behind the continued rise in console prices are tariff-driven increases in parts costs, along with shortages and price spikes in semiconductors and other components driven by surging AI demand. Consoles typically get cheaper the longer they’ve been on the market, but the Xbox and PS5, both launched in 2020, are actually getting more expensive even in their sixth year — an unusual trend compared to past generations. In the thread, data from a UK research firm and US data got mixed together in citations, sparking arguments over whose numbers were actually being discussed. Even the claim that Switch2 is the sales leader needs a caveat, since the result can change depending on the country and time period in question — it’s not simply a case of “only Switch2 is doing well.”

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hardware/Industry [“Geha”]) thread “Media: ‘Something’s off in the home console market — Xbox and PlayStation hit record sales slumps’“.

  • Console vs. PC Power Bill Debate Divides 5ch: ‘Guys Still Living in Their Childhood Bedroom Don’t Get Electricity Costs’

    On 5ch’s Hardware/Industry (Geha) board, a thread titled “It’s wrong that consoles are better value just because of ‘paid online’ or overall cost-effectiveness” blew up after someone replied with “Let me introduce you to: ‘electricity bills.’” The original post calculated the Nintendo Switch 2’s power draw at about 20W versus a gaming PC’s 300W, putting the difference at roughly ¥8.68 per hour — which adds up to over ¥6,000 a year if used 2 hours a day. The thread saw a flood of pushback over whether the math ignored online subscription fees and whether assuming a 300W power supply was even reasonable, and the debate never really settled.

    1AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:08
    Idiot: "???"
    2AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:10
    This is for real
    Guys still living in their childhood bedroom have no concept of electricity bills
    11AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:21
    Re: #2
    Seriously, this is exactly the problem
    3AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:13
    【Switch 2 vs. 300W Gaming PC Electricity Cost Comparison】
    (*Calculated at a rate of ¥31/kWh)

    ■ Cost per hour
    ・Switch 2 (approx. 20W): approx. ¥0.62
    ・Gaming PC (300W): approx. ¥9.30
    (Difference: approx. ¥8.68/hour — the PC costs about 15x more)

    ■ Annual cost and difference by usage pattern
    ① 2 hours daily (approx. 730 hours/year)
    ・Switch 2: approx. ¥453
    ・Gaming PC: approx. ¥6,789
    ・Difference: approx. ¥6,336/year

    ② 4 hours daily (approx. 1,460 hours/year)
    ・Switch 2: approx. ¥905
    ・Gaming PC: approx. ¥13,578
    ・Difference: approx. ¥12,673/year

    ③ 5 hours, weekends only (approx. 260 hours/year)
    ・Switch 2: approx. ¥161
    ・Gaming PC: approx. ¥2,418
    ・Difference: approx. ¥2,257/year
    31AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:40
    Re: #3
    How much electricity does a PS5 actually use?
    4AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:16
    So basically you just need to own both a Switch 2 and a PC
    5AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:16
    It's not that much money, and paid online doesn't bother me either
    I don't even use Game Pass but I'm still paying for a subscription
    6AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:17
    If you're the type who cares this much about electricity bills, don't even buy games in the first place
    19AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:26
    Do 300W power supplies even exist?
    24AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:31
    Re: #19
    If the target power draw is 300W, isn't it normal to put in a 600W+ power supply?
    25AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:35
    Re: #24
    That's outdated knowledge from back when PSUs were garbage
    Back then a '600W' unit often only had around 400W of real capacity, so that was true
    These days if it says 600W, you actually get 600W, so you don't need that much extra headroom
    Classic mistake from someone whose knowledge is stuck in the past
    27AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:38
    Re: #25
    >These days if it says 600W, you actually get 600W, so you don't need that much extra headroom
    LOL that's absolute nonsense
    36AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:46
    Re: #27
    What's nonsense about it? I just said the rated spec is actually accurate 😁
    Are you seriously claiming there's no way a PSU could actually hit its rated spec!? 😡🤔
    28AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:38
    For some reason this is only comparing electricity costs
    why isn't the online subscription fee factored in?
    Include that and the gap gets smaller
    and for PlayStation it'd probably flip the other way, right? lol
    33AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:41
    Re: #28
    Because it's not mandatory
    39AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:54
    The reason Steam is still a 'small' company is that it can't charge for online play
    If Steam ever started charging for online, its market cap would skyrocket
    It'd end up as big as Netflix
    40AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:56
    Re: #39
    Wouldn't people just flock to Epic or the MS Store instead?
    …well, maybe not the MS Store
    42AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:58
    Wait, isn't #14 correct? Why's everyone jumping on it?
    60AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:27
    Re: #42
    I've never even seen a gaming PC with a 300W power supply
    43AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:59
    Re: #7
    That's beside the point
    The point is, if you're at an income level where you have to worry about a game's electricity cost, you shouldn't be buying games in the first place
    46AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:03
    Re: #43
    At the very least, that kind of talk only flies in Japan where electricity is cheap
    Overseas, electricity costs an order of magnitude more and keeps climbing, so a gaming PC's power bill actually hits households hard
    47AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:05
    Isn't it normal to use a bigger PSU than you need, to account for degradation over time?
    49AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:10
    Re: #47
    Even accounting for degradation, you don't need double capacity these days
    Nowadays 1.2 to 1.5x is plenty of margin
    59AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:27
    Hold on, is the Switch 2's power draw of 20W even accurate?
    62AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:33
    Re: #59
    That's about right when docked
    In handheld mode it's more like 10W
    67AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:44
    Re: #59
    2 hours of play costs 1 yen in electricity
    That's insane, right?
    65AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:39
    People arguing about this stuff probably don't even own a watt meter
    66AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:40
    Re: #65
    Show us your watt meter then
    70AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:48
    Electricity bill? How much does a PS5 actually cost to run again?
    80AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:09
    Re: #70
    The PS5 should cost more in electricity than the Switch 2
    79AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:08
    Whether it's a gaming PC or a console
    you're not running it at max power draw 24/7
    83AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:32
    Re: #79
    There are occasionally people who see a PC's PSU wattage rating and assume it's constantly drawing that much power
    81AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:30
    Re: #67
    That's impressive
    Honestly, for Japanese games that max out at FHD 60fps anyway, the Switch 2 might be fine instead of a PC
    82AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:31
    Re: #81
    There's no such game, and choosing the downgraded version on low-spec hardware like the Switch 2 would be stupid
    90AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:43
    Re: #82
    Nah, if you exclude AAA titles, Japanese games tend to run at low internal resolutions anyway
    91AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:49
    Re: #90
    No, even Japanese games mostly hit 4K on the PC version
    84AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:33
    If you're trying to save power on a PC, doesn't that defeat the whole point of having one?
    86AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:36
    Re: #84
    Why would that defeat the point?

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    Playing online with a home console typically requires an annual subscription fee, such as Nintendo Switch Online or PlayStation Plus, whereas on PC, platforms like Steam often don’t charge extra for online play itself. The “cost-effectiveness” argument that kicked off this thread was pointing at that gap, but the electricity cost calculation in the original post fixed the PC’s power draw at a flat 300W, without noting that actual consumption varies widely depending on the game and the PC’s components. Electricity rates themselves also vary by contract, region, and time of day, so the ¥31/kWh figure used here is just one rough benchmark. Commenters in the thread raised points about factoring in online subscription costs and pushed back on how the power supply capacity was being calculated, suggesting this isn’t really a topic that can be settled with a simple numbers comparison.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry [Geha]) thread “Idiot: ‘It’s wrong that consoles are cost-effective just because of paid online!’ Me: ‘Electricity bills’.”

  • Matsuko Deluxe Says ‘Japan’s Best Trait Was Not Bragging’ — 5ch Reacts: ‘This Self-Congratulation Peer Pressure Is Scary’

    A story spread on 5ch’s Nandemo Jikkyo G (Nan G) board that TV personality Matsuko Deluxe said, “Wasn’t the good thing about Japanese people that they didn’t say they were great?” — and it sparked a debate. In the thread, many posters pointed to a sense of unease with the recent online trend of “horuhoru” (self-congratulatory) praise for one’s own country, and argued that humility has been lost. Others pushed back, asking “what’s wrong with calling something great when it actually is great?”, splitting opinion on how to evaluate Japan today. At times the discussion spilled over into feelings about foreigners and left-right labeling.

    1AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:41
    That hits the nail on the head.
    4AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:41
    Ohtani fanboys are exactly like this.
    16AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:45
    Re: #4
    If anything, these guys are the root cause.
    5AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:42
    Also, we used to learn from other countries.
    Japanese people today look down on foreigners, so we're done for.
    11AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:44
    Re: #5
    Japanese people really have lost their sense of breathing room.
    9AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:43
    Hasn't the online vibe over the past few years gotten obviously creepy?
    89AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:09
    Re: #9
    Back around the Abe Shinzo era, there was definitely a surge of Japanese people idolizing the Nordic countries. Now the trend seems to be self-congratulating about Japan instead.
    22AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:47
    It's probably backlash from all the 'Japan sucks' talk.
    38AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:50
    Re: #22
    Can't help it if it's just the truth, right?
    Forcing yourself to self-congratulate about a country that's failing feels way weirder to me.
    And they even pressure you into joining in.
    23AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:47
    Japanese people really love those 'This is how Japan is seen overseas!' videos, huh.
    33AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:49
    Re: #23
    Those are genuinely cringe.
    26AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:48
    What's so wrong with that?
    Do you get bashed for calling something great when it actually is great?
    Makes no sense to me.
    44AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:52
    Re: #26
    Japan isn't great anymore — if anything it's a country in decline.
    63AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:58
    Re: #26
    The point is, the era where we could call ourselves great has already passed.
    102AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:17
    Re: #26
    Japan 30 years ago was great, though.
    35AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:49
    https://youtu.be/1JsyMZ42Z14?t=49

    Same kind of thing.
    53AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:54
    Re: #35
    You were the one hyping up Japan yourself lol
    59AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:56
    Re: #35
    Charting on Billboard is success — what is this guy even talking about.
    62AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:57
    Re: #35
    The way someone who never even tried to go overseas makes excuses is so stereotypically Japanese, lmao
    46AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:52
    The self-congratulation peer pressure lately is seriously scary.
    This is probably what Japan was like under the wartime one-party 'Imperial Rule Assistance' system.
    Is this just what inevitably happens when a country is dying?
    50AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:53
    Re: #46
    What's 'horuhoru' (self-congratulation slang)? Hormones?
    47AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:53
    What I don't get is that the truly impressive stuff never gets talked about at all.
    51AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:53
    Re: #47
    That's because the media trashes Japan to begin with.
    54AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:54
    Re: #47
    The truly impressive stuff
    gets hidden
    because the people who benefit from it want to keep the advantage to themselves.
    49AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:53
    Come on, 'we're a superior race' is exactly the mindset that led to kamikaze attacks in the end. Don't forget history.
    56AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:55
    Re: #49
    The kamikaze pilots were praised for dying for the Emperor and the country — that's not really the same as 'Japan is great, I'm great.'
    55AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:54
    What's with Japanese people's hatred of foreigners lately?
    So many people say 'too many foreigners, foreigners go home,' but are they just trying to look away from the fact that Japan has become such a declining country that it only runs on foreigners spending money and foreigners doing the work? Or are they just too dumb to even realize that?
    57AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:56
    Re: #55
    'Lately'?
    Japan's always disliked foreigners.
    The whole country is basically a collection of closed-off village communities.
    70AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:00
    Re: #55
    Nobody has a problem with foreigners who follow the law and manners.
    You're the biggest idiot here for twisting what people mean.
    71AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:01
    They look down on foreigners,
    yet still want foreigners to praise them.
    86AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:07
    Re: #71
    They look down on foreigners,
    but still want their approval,
    so they go on buying sprees for foreign brand goods.
    75AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:02
    Re: #70
    No, Japanese people absolutely do the condescending 'Wow, you followed manners even though you're a foreigner!' thing all the time.
    84AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:07
    Re: #75
    I feel this so hard.
    85AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:07
    You guys keep calling TV and old media 'anti-Japanese,' but look at reality — they're the ones churning out tons of Japan-self-congratulation shows.
    Like 'Wow, the taxi door opens automatically, amazing!' type stuff.
    92AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:11
    Japanese people keep looking down on China, but the only country in the world actually entitled to look down on China is the US.
    Japan's just acting big because it's basically a US dependency — without the Japan-US alliance Japan can't do anything, and that really sums up the Japanese national character.
    Basically, it's lame.
    94AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:12
    Re: #92
    That just shows how many idiots in Japan haven't updated their information.
    They still think Japan is a rich country.
    106AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:22

    Same old story since wartime, as usual.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    “Horuhoru” is internet slang for the feel-good state of praising your own country or yourself, and it’s often used in connection with the “How Japanese people are seen overseas” style of TV programming that has increased since the 2010s. What split opinion in the thread was a difference in premise — whether to view today’s Japan as “a country that used to be great” or as “a country that’s still great” — so even posters who equally criticized “self-congratulation” ended up taking different positions. At one point the discussion branched off into left-vs-right labeling, but that’s a separate tangent from the thread’s main topic of humility, and isn’t directly tied to the praise or criticism of Matsuko’s comment itself. Reading only the replies, it can look like a political argument, but it’s easy to overlook that it all started from a single remark on TV.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Sad News] Matsuko: “Wasn’t the good thing about Japanese people that they didn’t say they were great?”“.

  • 7-Eleven Franchisee: “Even Running Multiple Stores, Profit Doesn’t Reach ¥300K” — 5ch Reacts: “HQ Rakes It In Automatically, Owners Just Do the Grunt Work”

    A post by a rookie 7-Eleven franchise owner airing grievances to headquarters on X (formerly Twitter) went viral on 5ch. Despite running multiple stores with average daily sales of 600,000 yen and a 31% gross margin in September, the owner said profit didn’t even reach 300,000 yen. It has long been pointed out that under convenience store franchise contracts, headquarters secures stable earnings through structures like royalty fees and the owner’s burden for discarded/expired goods, while owners see little increase in their take-home share even as they boost sales. The thread saw a stream of doubts about the power imbalance between headquarters and owners, and about the franchise structure itself, which locks in who benefits before the contract is even signed.

    1AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:24
    Rookie convenience store owner@CSV_OWNER
    To 7-Eleven Headquarters,
    My multiple stores' average daily sales in September were 600,000 yen with a 31% gross margin, and profit didn't even reach 300,000 yen.
    5AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:33
    Kind of like Daito Ken◯ (a real estate franchise notorious for one-sided contracts)
    But starting a franchise is 100% on you
    It's not "the sales rep tricked me!"
    You're both businesses here
    It's a battle of who cons who
    6AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:36
    That's about right
    Good gig if you've got land, money, and time to spare
    7AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:38
    Every franchise works like this —
    The moment HQ gets an owner to open a store, HQ already wins
    The sales rep gets credit for landing another contract too

    Once a single store opens, a certain level of sales is locked in
    And the royalty fee, or whatever % of profit, comes in automatically
    8AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:40
    Owners are stuck with a bad contract from day one, so even if they work hard and boost sales, their cut doesn't grow

    HQ rakes it in automatically
    Owners just do the grunt work
    If it were really that profitable, HQ would run every store itself

    What even is an "owner" anyway, lol
    Just a sole proprietor
    Nothing more than a subcontractor for a giant corporation
    9AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:44
    If they'd just asked an AI beforehand, even clueless people could've avoided becoming an owner
    If you're clueless about everything, of course you get taken advantage of
    11AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:58
    It's crazy to run multiple stores as a total rookie
    13AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:02
    Re: #10
    A bit better than being a salaryman at a small/mid-size company
    They're really threading that "keep you alive, but not too alive" line
    14AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:05
    The word "owner" is wild
    I was taught it comes from "own" because you bear the responsibility
    Whoever coined that term is something else
    15AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:25
    The 7-Eleven near me closed down too. It was in one of Tokyo's 23 wards and reasonably close to the station, but once a My Basket (a discount supermarket chain) opened nearby, everyone switched over there.
    16AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:30
    In short, it's protection money
    HQ rakes it in risk-free
    17AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:33
    Probably the same at every major convenience store chain
    Once an area becomes a convenience-store desert, I stop trusting them entirely and stop going
    They'll ruthlessly shut down even a shop that's been a neighborhood fixture for 30-40 years
    18AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:33
    You don't see new convenience stores opening in the countryside anymore
    Just a few years ago it was all 7-Eleven's dominant strategy (saturating an area with stores)
    Five would pop up within walking distance
    Now three of them have closed
    19AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:36
    I am Convenience Store
    I shall erase every store around me
    And in the end, erase myself too
    21AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:42
    Think about it logically
    There's no way 7-Eleven HQ, or any franchise headquarters
    Would hand over the kind of profit
    That lets an owner's family build a new house
    Drive around in a foreign car
    And travel nonstop
    23AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:45
    I thought a 60% HQ cut was steep, but HQ covers your rent and utilities, right?
    So just sleep in the store's back room and you won't need rent or utilities elsewhere
    And that 300,000 yen in discarded/expired food loss is huge too
    Eat the discarded bento and your food costs drop to zero
    Not spending a cent on living expenses while banking your entire 6-million-yen-plus salary — that's huge
    24AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:45
    Because the customer of 7-Eleven HQ is the franchise owner
    27AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:48
    That's just how franchises work
    HQ collects money just for lending its name, and after that it's all about how much profit the owner side can generate
    If they can't turn a profit, the store just goes under
    But it's not an employment contract
    So it ends up being the owner's fault for signing it
    28AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:49
    If you don't like it, just quit — simple as that
    HQ has nothing to do with it
    The question is who decided to start this on their own
    29AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:49
    Because HQ opens company-owned stores right in an owner's store's trade area
    30AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:50
    If it were really that profitable, wouldn't 7-Eleven just run it themselves?
    Why hand a profitable deal over to some clueless kid who doesn't know any better?
    That's the basics of exploitation
    33AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:51
    Re: #30
    They get an owner to open a store, and once it's clear "this spot makes money!"
    HQ swoops in and opens a company-owned store to crush the owner's shop
    31AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:50
    At some point convenience stores became a business built on luring in and crushing hopeful owners
    32AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:51
    There are a ton of 7-Elevens near me
    34AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:51
    "Dear Owner! Dear Owner!"

    There are probably quite a few people who get a kick out of being called that
    35AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:52
    In rural areas, 7-Eleven and other convenience stores keep opening new locations, but barely any ever close
    36AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:53
    Same scheme as apartment investment scams
    40AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:01
    It's about that time of year they make you buy Christmas cakes (store staff pressured to buy unsold holiday stock themselves)
    41AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:06
    Isn't this the story where, years ago, someone pitched the Japanese-style convenience store business model in the US and was told that doing this in America would get HQ sued into bankruptcy?
    42AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:07
    The stuff they sell is cheap per item, so it must be tough to turn a profit
    43AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:08
    The US has about 12,000 7-Eleven stores
    44AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:09
    For HQ, it's a win as long as a rival store's sales drop
    45AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:11
    A franchise is just a legal pyramid scheme
    46AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:18
    From a consumer's point of view, 7-Eleven should sell stuff at half price before tossing out a ton of expired product
    7-Eleven stubbornly refuses to discount, though
    48AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:18
    So does that mean the stores that have survived for years without going under are all company-owned, not franchises?
    51AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:26
    There's a 7-Eleven on a two-lane prefectural road with decent traffic
    Customers are lined up but the staff just stand around dazed, the fried food case is almost always empty even when it's nowhere near midnight
    Even in winter they're often out of meat buns too — way too little motivation
    52AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:29
    It's in a residential area about 2km from Gifu Station
    A store opened there and became a huge hit maybe over a decade ago, back when there were probably only five 7-Elevens in the whole city
    Now it's dead quiet
    The bento, onigiri, and bread are priced so high that regular people can't afford them anymore
    54AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:30
    Only now? People were already calling it a red ocean (an oversaturated, cutthroat market) 20 years ago

    Background and key points of this discussion

    In convenience store franchises, the way royalty fees paid to headquarters and the cost of discarded/expired goods are structured can heavily determine a store’s profit — so much so that even with identical sales, the profit left over can end up barely changing, or barely existing, from store to store. Japan’s Fair Trade Commission has previously flagged issues such as headquarters restricting markdown sales of near-expiry items and the abuse of a dominant position at contract renewal time, and the power imbalance between HQ and owners has long been a social issue. Opinions in the thread split between those who say that once you’ve signed the contract, the outcome is on you, and those who question the franchise contract structure itself for favoring headquarters from the start. A daily sales figure of 600,000 yen might look like plenty of revenue on its own, but once HQ royalty fees, labor costs, and losses from discarded goods are subtracted, the profit that remains can be razor-thin — a detail the raw sales number alone doesn’t convey.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “7-Eleven Owner: “My multiple stores’ average daily sales in September were 600,000 yen with a 31% gross margin, and profit didn’t even reach 300,000 yen. There’s no way to recover the initial investment, right?”“

  • Tenkaippin’s “Live Broadcast” Ramen Photo Actually a Recycled Shot? 5ch: “You Lied About It Being Live”

    On 5ch’s Nandemo Jikkyou G (anything-goes live-commentary) board, a thread titled “Hey everyone, I’m at Tenkaippin! 🥺” popped up. The poster claimed to be eating ramen at the Tenkaippin chain and posted a photo as a “live broadcast,” but other users pointed out that the image was identical to one used in a past thread, and pressure began mounting: “You said this was live, but isn’t this just the same old photo recycled?” The poster kept dodging with lines like “A day’s passed, so it’s live again! 🥺,” and the back-and-forth never quite lined up. This poster has made similar reports before, and while regulars reacted with a knowing “same old thing,” a gap opened up with the newer users calling it out for the first time.

    1AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:46
    It's the rich tonkotsu ramen and fried rice set! 🥺
    2AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:48
    What about the toy?
    4AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:49
    Re: #2
    I won it! 🥺
    3AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:48
    Posting a recycled photo again… 😒
    5AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:49
    Re: #3
    It's mine! 🥺
    97AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:58
    Well, to sum it up, this thread is basically the voice actress Kikuko Inoue bit (she's famous for always claiming to be "18 years old♥" no matter her actual age) — when she says that, the expected response is an exasperated "oh come on." Same deal here: whenever you spot this thread, just reply like Re: #3 did with "posting a recycled photo again… 😒" (everyone already knows the drill)
    8AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:50
    The ramen's the rich one! 🥺


    11AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:50
    A rerun? 🥺
    12AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:51
    Re: #11
    It's live! 🥺
    19AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:53
    Re: #12
    Do you win the puzzle prize every single day? Most people just get a discount coupon.
    24AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:55
    Re: #19
    I win! 🥺
    17AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:53
    It's sad how much you've switched over to Mita Seimen (a rival ramen chain)
    47AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:24
    Re: #45
    Why did you say "rerun" that time?

    19 Still Shaky Anonymous 2026/10/10 (Sat) 09:29:22.18 ID:LL+rVjmc0
    Re: #17
    It's a rerun! 🥺
    27AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:58
    There's a Tenkaippin that opens before 10am? Where is that?
    29AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:59
    Re: #27
    It's near my place! 🥺
    37AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:12
    Thanks for the meal! 🥺



    Looks like the puzzle prize is gonna be a dud 🥺
    40AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:15
    Re: #39
    Why would you say something like that? 🥺
    44AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:22
    Re: #40
    Why'd you lie and call it "live" when you used the same photo as last time?
    45AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:23
    Re: #44
    Once a day passes, it's live again! 🥺
    55AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:29
    57AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:30
    58AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:31
    63AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:35
    Re: #60
    Well yeah, you'd get annoyed too if someone kept needling you about something everyone already knows is just a bit 🥺
    This thread is like the comedy magician Maggie Shiro and his apprentice's act — it's dumb and pointless (he's clearly faking it) and everyone knows it, so you're supposed to just laugh at how dumb it is
    68AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:40
    Re: #63
    There would've been some redemption if he'd at least answered honestly when asked whether he'd posted the same image in an earlier thread, but instead he told a flat-out lie.


    70AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:43
    Re: #68
    Honestly I saw him put up two threads in one day recently, in real time, so I already knew about it… He probably just called it a "rerun" because he wanted to share it with people who hadn't seen it yet 🥺
    74AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:44
    Re: #70
    Then if he's asked whether he posted the same thread before, the honest thing would be to write "this is a rerun." But this thread says "live," doesn't it?
    76AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:46
    Re: #74
    Isn't it just that some weirdly obsessive person like you showed up, so he decided to ignore it? 🥺
    79AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:48
    Re: #76
    He's not ignoring it. If he wrote "this is a rerun, I've reused this same photo from an earlier thread," he wouldn't get as many replies. So he lied and called it "live."
    80AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:49
    Re: #79
    That's delusions of grandeur 🥺 You should see a doctor 🥺
    84AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:51
    Re: #83
    I get that you're mad, but don't drop the cutesy baby-talk act 😭
    86AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:51
    Re: #84
    Sorry 🥺
    101AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:59
    102AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:00
    106AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:04
    You're always eating at Tenkaippin.
    You're gonna get fat 🥺
    108AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:04
    Re: #106
    I'm already fat
    110AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:05
    Re: #108
    You're gonna fail your health checkup 😨
    111AnonymousOct 11, 2026 11:06
    Re: #110
    I'm on so much medication that all my numbers come back normal 🥺

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    The poster behind this thread (nicknamed “Wai-chan” by the board) is a well-known regular on the Nandemo Jikkyou G board, known for repeatedly posting reports of eating at Tenkaippin. As reply #97 explains by referencing voice actress Kikuko Inoue’s running gag of always introducing herself as “18 years old♥” — a line fans know to answer with an exasperated “oh come on,” even though everyone’s in on the joke — this kind of thread has long continued as an exchange where even the poster himself is playing along with a bit everyone recognizes. This time’s dispute arose because, when someone pointed out that the photo matched one from a previous thread, the poster kept insisting it was “live,” which opened up a gap between how regulars and first-time critics reacted. Regulars shrugged it off as business as usual, already factoring in the recycled photos and exaggeration, while the person calling it out for the first time ended up simply pressing him on the contradiction, and the conversation talked past itself. It would be easy for readers to mistake this for a serious fight over an actual “false report,” but within the thread’s own context, it reads more as lighthearted ribbing within a long-running inside joke.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyou G) thread “Hey everyone, I’m at Tenkaippin! 🥺.”

  • Chris Peppler Names The Beatles the ‘#1 Album That’ll Still Matter in 100 Years’ — 5ch Erupts: ‘Kids Don’t Even Listen to This Anymore’

    Music navigator Chris Peppler named The Beatles’ “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band” as his top pick for “the rock album that will still matter in 100 years.” The 5ch thread that followed argued less about whether the pick itself was right and more over generational lines — whether young people today actually listen to this kind of old rock at all. One camp pointed to Spotify streaming numbers as proof nobody listens to it anymore, while another countered that plenty of young people discover old songs through streaming services and short-form video. Led Zeppelin, Guns N’ Roses, and Oasis were all floated as alternative picks.

    What rock album does Chris Peppler pick as one that will still matter in 100 years? “Those four guys were a terrifying quartet.”

    Mon, Oct 5, 13:00

    Chris’s first pick for a classic rock album built to last was The Beatles’ “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    4AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:36
    This guy's been pushing XG nonstop forever.
    113AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:25
    Re: #4
    You mean that XG — the one that, despite being just an Avex act, dragged out the hype only to get completely upstaged by HANA?
    5AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:38
    Shouldn't it be Guns N' Roses' Appetite (for Destruction)?
    6AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:38
    No taste putting Sgt. Pepper at #1.
    That album's full of mediocre tracks, and its reputation's been tanking lately anyway.
    8AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:41
    Re: #6
    Do you change your own feelings based on public opinion?
    9AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:42
    Re: #6
    Go ahead, recommend something better then.
    34AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:56
    Re: #6
    'Tanking lately,' lol. You should just stop listening to music.
    Actually, you were never into music to begin with, were you.
    7AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:40
    'With a Little Help from My Friends' is about the only song on there I even like.
    106AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:24
    Re: #7
    It's the landmark track for pioneering the technique of overdubbing an intricate bass line after the fact.
    10AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:42
    The Beatles'
    'Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band'
    and Led Zeppelin's
    'Led Zeppelin II'
    — I wonder how today's teens, 20-somethings, and 30-somethings actually rate these two.
    11AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:43
    Let's just go with the Pistols already.
    88AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:19
    Re: #11
    Bye bye, Mii-chan! lol (a stock 5ch meme send-off phrase)
    12AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:45
    Nah, it's the Yardbirds.
    63AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:09
    Re: #12
    Already…
    13AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:45
    Re: #10
    There's no way teens and 20-somethings are listening to that stuff in the first place.
    Rock is old-man music.
    25AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:52
    Re: #13
    Lately plenty of young people get into old music regardless of era, often via streaming or as BGM in short-form videos.
    Not sure it goes all the way back to the Beatles, but '80s tracks get a lot of plays these days —
    there are even young people making music styled after the '80s.
    28AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:54
    Re: #25
    No such people exist.
    Nobody listens to rock at all anymore.
    35AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:56
    Re: #25
    There's zero chance little kids are listening to that.
    14AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:47
    The Beatles are a classic at this point.
    Queen still sounds cool even now, though.
    71AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:12
    Re: #14
    1962 Love Me Do
    1963 She Loves You
    1964 A Hard Day's Night
    1965 Yesterday
    1966 Tomorrow Never Knows
    1967 Strawberry Fields Forever
    1968 Hey Jude
    1969 Something
    1970 Let It Be

    Not many bands have undergone such a dramatic transformation in just seven and a half years.
    The leap from Love Me Do to Tomorrow Never Knows in under four years is especially staggering.
    15AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:47
    Jeff Beck and Jimi Hendrix are Hall of Fame locks, no question.
    16AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:48
    Is Californication off the table?
    17AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:48
    The Beatles lol.
    Mop-top haircuts lol.
    18AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:50
    Predictable pick, but I'll go with Nevermind.
    41AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:59
    "I Am the Walrus" — a song people still won't understand 100 years from now.
    47AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:02
    Re: #41
    I like it because I found out The Red Warriors covered it ❤
    48AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:03
    The rock bands with by far the highest Spotify monthly listener counts:

    Coldplay — 94.86M
    Queen — 51.68M
    Oasis — 41.75M
    Red Hot Chili Peppers — 46.46M
    Radiohead — 46.92M
    Green Day — 44.50M


    Everyone else is sub-40M scrubs.
    Not even worth existing.
    94AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:21
    Re: #48
    Well hello there, Spotify grandpa!
    64AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:09
    For Zeppelin, isn't 'IV' the generally accepted pick?
    78AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:14
    Re: #64
    People split into the 'II' camp, the 'IV' camp, and the 'Physical Graffiti' camp.
    76AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:14
    Beatles uncles — no, Beatles grandpas at this point — just accept reality.
    Young people around the world aren't listening to the Beatles.

    87AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:19
    It's just comical watching half-deaf old men get all worked up over remasters and remixes.
    You guys can't even hear it properly anymore, lol.
    90AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:20
    Re: #87
    Ha, look who's talking, lol
    89AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:19
    Is anyone listening to songs from 100 years ago today?
    That's your answer right there.
    110AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:25
    Re: #89
    Classical music still gets listened to, but when it comes to recorded songs —
    Japan's first-ever commercial record was apparently:
    >Released in 1928, "Japan's earliest commercial record"
    >Titled "Habu no Minato" ("Habu Harbor")
    So at nearly 100 years out, it's possible literally nobody listens to it anymore.
    114AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:27
    Re: #89
    When you think about it that way, classical music really is amazing, huh (´・ω・`)
    117AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:28
    Re: #89
    Louis Armstrong, for instance.
    92AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:21
    In the UK, there's this narrative that music basically died after Oasis.
    111AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:25
    Re: #92
    Meanwhile, the Gallagher brothers belt out Ace of Base's 'The Sign' in full while insisting they hate the song, leaving British kids rolling their eyes.

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Chris Peppler is a radio music navigator, and “albums that will endure for posterity” segments like this are a recurring staple of Japanese media. The Beatles’ “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band,” a 1967 concept album, has long been regarded as a turning point in rock history, so naming it the top pick is hardly a shocking choice within music-criticism circles.

    What actually divided the thread wasn’t whether the pick itself was good, but the very standard for what counts as a “classic album.” One side pointed to Spotify’s monthly listener counts as evidence young people no longer listen to it, while the other argued that plenty of young people encounter old songs through streaming platforms or short-form video — but current streaming numbers reflect listening habits of the streaming era and are a different measure entirely from critical-historical standing or lasting influence, a distinction that’s easy to lose sight of. Buried under the streaming-numbers argument were other points worth a second look too, like the sheer speed at which the Beatles’ sound transformed in under eight years.

    *This article is an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Entertainment/Sports News+) thread “What rock album does Chris Peppler pick as one that will still matter in 100 years? ‘Those four guys were a terrifying quartet.’“

  • Masahiro Matsuoka: “You shouldn’t take what’s said on TV seriously” — 5ch: “So basically, don’t air that nonsense in the first place”

    Actor and TOKIO member Masahiro Matsuoka spoke about the current state of TV compliance culture while appearing on TV Tokyo’s “Nikenme Dou Suru?” (“What Should We Do for Round Two?”). His comments — “what’s said on TV isn’t something you should take seriously” and “getting so worked up over it” — were widely reported, and the thread on 5ch’s Entertainment/Sports Breaking News+ board was split between support and criticism. TOKIO lost two members to scandals in quick succession — Tatsuya Yamaguchi in 2018 and Taichi Kokubun in 2024 — and the thread mixed sarcastic jabs like “does he even have the right to say this, given his own group’s track record” with agreement that “the point about viewers and social media reactions needing to be brushed off is actually fair.” The discussion spread into the public nature of the airwaves and the structure of sponsor-funded TV, with several commenters even questioning television’s reason for existing at all.

    Masahiro Matsuoka addresses TV compliance: “What’s said on TV isn’t something you should take seriously”

    Actor Masahiro Matsuoka appeared on the 9th on TV Tokyo’s “Nikenme Dou Suru? ~Tsumami no Hanashi~” (Fridays at 12:12 a.m.), where he spoke about the state of television these days.

    The guest that day was TV personality Yu Teshima, who married in 2022 and had her first child in 2023.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:33
    He got through the whole Kokubun scandal by just claiming the company folded, so he hasn't heard anything and doesn't know what happened.
    6AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:36
    Here we go again, another thread of knee-jerk pile-on, same as always.
    7AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:36
    Well, it's mostly fabrication anyway, lol.
    There are even cases where a show's name itself became synonymous with a fabricated-reporting scandal.
    97AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:27
    Re: #7
    Gachinko Fight Club was the real deal.
    8AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:38
    These are the kind of viewers who complain about an actor for playing a villain too well.
    10AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:38
    There's zero need to blab on TV about stuff people shouldn't take seriously in the first place, though.

    Matsuoka, have you not noticed that yourself?
    12AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:40
    So then, stuff said online and on social media shouldn't be taken seriously either, right?
    Obvious threats or insults are a different story, but when it's just criticism or commentary,
    celebrities should brush that off too.
    Getting angry and instantly calling it "slander" is a failure as a celebrity.
    You're going to get praised sometimes and criticized other times —
    if you can't handle that, you shouldn't be a celebrity.
    14AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:42
    People on the entertainment/sports board never listen to reason, do they.
    15AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:43
    I don't want a job where you get paid to just ramble carelessly to even exist as a thing.
    You just want it easy, don't you.
    16AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:43
    Re: #1
    Taken to the extreme, that could be read as saying anything goes on public airwaves.

    Do you have any idea how long TV's been everywhere, since the Showa era?
    18AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:44
    Lately there's this thoughtless trend in showbiz of "as long as it gets a reaction" or "as long as it gets laughs," while everyone looks away from the fact that this exact attitude is what led to today's compliance mess.

    Lies.
    Fabrication.
    Low-class behavior.
    Offensiveness.
    Cruelty.

    Maybe shows just can't get made anymore without that stuff.
    19AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:44
    Fine for variety shows, but it's starting to feel like even news reporting shouldn't be taken at face value these days.
    20AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:45
    Wait, is he actually defending Nippon TV here — the network that aired a late-night segment of Chinese people catching and eating wild crows?

    Funny how forgiving Matsuoka is toward NTV, considering the whole Kokubun DASH incident (TOKIO's long-running NTV farm show) should've left him with a grudge against them, lol.
    21AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:46
    So the news shouldn't be taken that seriously either, is that it?!




    …yeah, maybe that's actually right.
    22AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:46
    Manly Matsuoka
    (From the uncut press conference footage aired on "Jouhou 7 Days News Caster")
    "Neither our leader nor I have any idea what Kokubun actually did.
    I think it's fine to just leave it at that now — and I bet everyone watching feels the same.
    More than what actually happened, I think what matters is the situation we're in now because of it."
    (He was sent off with applause after the press conference ended.)
    23AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:46
    Real bold talk, coming from a show on a trash TV network that's a licensed business monopolizing huge swaths of public airwaves for next to nothing, lol.
    If that's how he feels, he should just quit.
    25AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:48
    You can't just put careless talk out over airwaves that a handful of networks monopolize.
    Don't go pitching products with that kind of attitude either.
    26AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:49
    People say not to take mass media too seriously, but
    honestly, "I saw it on the news/in the paper" still carries more weight than "I read it on 5ch."
    28AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:49
    This is just the ceiling of the sponsor-funded business model. If the people holding the purse strings say no, everything's a no. Same with YouTube — Google writes the rulebook there too.
    As long as you're operating on someone else's turf, you can't just do whatever you want. If you don't like that, the answer is to build your own platform and do your own thing there.
    Something like Downtown Plus (the comedy duo Downtown's own subscription platform), where you take on all the risk yourself, is the real answer.
    29AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:49
    Isn't the answer just to find sponsors who won't make a fuss no matter what you say or do?
    31AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:50
    That's because the trash media ("masugomi") themselves are the ones who demanded excessive compliance from politicians and everyone else.
    35AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:51
    Watching TV will turn you stupid.
    36AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:51
    Paying absurdly cheap, below-market airwave usage fees is effectively the same as being subsidized by taxpayers.
    It's a waste of public airwaves — terrestrial TV should just go off the air already.
    37AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:52
    If you throw an excuse like that out there, it ends up applying to social media too — like saying people shouldn't get so worked up over stuff said jokingly online either.
    38AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:52
    That's exactly why he's still stuck in that "Heisei brain" mindset.
    47AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:57
    Re: #38
    But it's a fact that TV was more entertaining back when it still had that "Heisei brain" mindset, though.
    82AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:18
    Re: #47
    I'm "Heisei brain" too, born in the late Showa 50s (late 1970s), but
    the '90s really were good.
    Dramas, music shows, CDTV, stuff like that.
    That said, I never watched comedy or variety shows even back then.
    People around me stopped watching TV around the mid-2000s too —
    TV got boring and people quit watching it while it was still the Heisei era.

    Background and key points of this topic

    TOKIO was originally a five-member group, but Tatsuya Yamaguchi left over a scandal in 2018, followed by Taichi Kokubun in 2024, leaving the group now effectively down to a two-man lineup of Shigeru Joshima and Matsuoka. The mocking references to the group’s “scandal rate” that ran through the thread stem from this history. What tends to get overlooked, though, is that Matsuoka’s comment wasn’t about any individual scandal — it was aimed at the recent tendency to make a fuss over variety-show remarks without distinguishing legitimate criticism from outright slander. In fact, the malicious online attacks on cast members of “VIVANT” mentioned at the end of the original article are a textbook example of exactly the kind of “taking it too seriously” reaction Matsuoka was pointing at — showing that TV compliance debates and online hostility are really two sides of the same coin.

    ※This article is composed from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Entertainment/Sports Breaking News+) thread “[Entertainment] Masahiro Matsuoka addresses TV compliance: “What’s said on TV isn’t something you should take seriously,” “getting so worked up over it…”“.

  • Angerme Members Who Never Graduated at 25? 5ch: “I Wanted to See Kasahara & Funaki as Leader and Sub-Leader”

    A thread popped up on 5ch’s Hello! Project board imagining a hypothetical lineup where Angerme members never graduated at 25. With Sasaki (25) as leader, Kasahara (22) as sub-leader, and Funaki (24), Ise (22), and Hashisako (21) all still in the group, commenters responded that “they could easily hold their own.” Meanwhile, opinion split over whether Funaki’s departure was tied to Country Girls’ disbandment or was her own choice, and the thread spiraled into an age debate over the claim that “an idol’s peak is 23-28, so graduating at 25 is way too early.”

    1AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:37
    Quite a lineup
    Sasaki (25) – Leader
    Kasahara (22) – Sub-leader
    5AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:42
    Re: #2
    She's excluded — regardless of her own wishes, that departure was over a scandal
    18AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:53
    Re: #5
    Wasn't it the same for Funaki, though? Country Girls got torn apart against her will, so she left Hello! Project entirely because of that, right?
    9AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:44
    If Sasaki and Funaki were still around, Ise would end up a strong member too
    10AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:45
    Sasaki (25) – Leader
    Kasahara (22) – Sub-leader
    Funaki (24)

    Having them still here is huge
    Feels like with this lineup, Ise and Hashisako would've grown into their own properly too
    11AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:45
    But Kasahara probably wouldn't have turned into the Kasahara she is today
    13AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:48
    Ise (22)
    Hashisako (21)
    Kawana (22)
    Tamenaga (22)

    That's not bad at all
    They could've done a string of back-to-back graduations as a highlight for the big-venue shows
    14AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:49
    I really wanted to see Kasahara and Funaki as leader and sub-leader
    The group wouldn't have ended up as soft as it is now
    15AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:50
    Huh, so Ise could actually have three more years left
    16AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:51
    Kasahara, Ise, Tamenaga, and Kawana are all from the 23-year-old generation, so realistically they've got about 2 more years
    17AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:52
    These days there's a chance they stay on until 27 or 28
    20AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:56
    Re: #18
    The point is whether she was able to make that choice to quit of her own free will
    41AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:23
    Re: #20
    Ota's initial hiatus was forced on her too, but I think what came after that was left up to her
    21AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:59
    Sasaki (25) – Leader
    Kasahara (22) – Sub-leader
    Funaki (24)
    Ise (22)
    Hashisako (21)
    Kawana (22)
    Matsumoto (19)
    Hirayama (20)
    Goto (18)
    Nagano (16)
    22AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:00
    Re: #21
    This lineup could easily hold its own
    25AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:03
    It's such a shame to think we could've watched the 🐹 and 🦐 (member nicknames) banter for six more years at least
    26AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:04
    When the mid-tier members leave early, it really does come back to bite the group later
    27AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:06
    Same deal in regular companies and sports teams alike
    If the layer meant to step up after the veterans decline and leave is too thin, the remaining young members alone can't make it work
    28AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:08
    Thought "what about Aikawa Maho" — oh right, she's 27
    29AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:11
    Honestly Hello! Project members quit way too early in general
    Once you factor in experience, skill, stamina, and even having enough room left over to play around on stage
    however you slice it the peak runs from about 23 to 30
    but they quit before even reaching that prime zone
    and then once the strongest members in that zone leave, inexperienced middle-schoolers come in to fill the gap
    you need prime-zone members and rookies coexisting, or it gets rough
    33AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:18
    Re: #29
    They just don't want to be around each other
    40AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:22
    Re: #29
    🙅‍♀ It's not Hello! Project that quits too early
    🙆‍♀ It's Angerme that quits too early
    31AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:15
    Now that Hashisako's graduation is set, the scariest scenario going forward is Wakanya (member nickname) being next to leave
    32AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:17
    Wakanya has to stay active until the time capsule opening ceremony, so
    she needs to stick around for another 7 or 8 years
    36AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:20
    Thinking about who takes on the leadership role next, losing Hashisako or Matsumoto would really hurt
    Hirayama has the qualities too, but her chronic condition and absences are too much of a liability
    37AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:20
    Well, you all love the young ones, don't you
    38AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:21
    But when an older junior joins, you all just bash the younger members until they quit
    39AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:22
    Solid lineup to stand opposite Juice=Juice, no complaints there
    No weak links from the veterans down to the rookies
    Wish they'd bring in a big batch of new members soon to shore things up
    Ise is doing great
    43AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:00
    Guess all that's left is drowning in fantasies of "what if Angerme had turned out like this" — rough life for Angerme fans
    44AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:01
    Re: #41
    Lol, you're really not letting this go
    You've lost, so just give it up already
    45AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:03
    While fans sneered about "old hags hogging the spotlight," even the members they actually needed ran off, and the whole thing fell apart
    46AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:06
    Quitting at 25 was fine back in the day, back in the day

    The idol scene now is different — the minimum bar you have to clear has gone up, and there's more of it
    Back then, unison dancing didn't even need to be that intense
    Now times have changed and there's more to do
    Simply put, being an idol isn't easy anymore

    So it inevitably takes longer to reach that level
    47AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:07
    Graduating right as you finally learn how to put on a real stage show
    In this day and age that just seems dumb, honestly
    Like, the next 2-3 years are supposed to be your prime
    Dragging the group's skill level way down by bringing in 13-year-olds
    and ending up with a lineup that has nothing going for it but youth is just dumb
    because youth alone is easy to get even from underground idol groups
    you could just recruit elementary schoolers for that

    the sheer effort it takes to develop someone over 10 years…
    48AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:09
    Seasoned members like OCHA and Beyooooonds (nicknames/groups) have been looking really good lately
    49AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:12
    I don't think it's right that Fruits Zipper has a 29-year-old idol on hiatus, though
    What's the deal with staying an idol past the "right age" until you finally get popular and pull it together?
    If it were more of an artist path like Perfume, I'd get it, but…
    50AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:14
    Having a peak around 23 to 28 is similar to other sports too
    Graduating before that, in this day and age,
    is unthinkable if you actually put the group first
    Like, what's Sasaki Rikako even doing now?
    Those just feel like two wasted years to me
    52AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:17
    Maybe it's because thinking she's "past the right age" is a minority view
    These days being an idol in your late 20s is normal, and idols that age are actually easier to support even for fans new to oshi culture
    53AnonymousOct 11, 2026 10:19
    Rikako's been looking bored lately though
    Quitting was probably a mistake, huh

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Angerme has publicly maintained a “graduate at 25” internal rule since the group’s formation, known as a unique policy not shared by any other Hello! Project group. This thread is simply a what-if game imagining a lineup had that rule never existed — it is not a report on any actual graduation announcement or agency policy. Opinions split over whether past departures from Hello! Project were made “by the member’s own choice” or were “beyond their control,” a point that’s open to interpretation. There’s also the recurring clash among Hello! Project fans between those who place an idol’s “peak age” at 23-28 and those who support the 25-year-old retirement rule — ultimately a disagreement over how to judge a group’s turnover.

    *This article is an excerpt and summary based on the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “The world where Angerme members didn’t graduate until 25.”

  • Shinagawa Maglev Tunnel Work Halted After Boring Machine Hits Rock Too Hard to Drill

    On October 8, 2026, it was reported that tunnel-boring work on the Chuo Shinkansen maglev line in Tokyo’s Shinagawa Ward had been suspended after the boring machine struck extremely hard rock and was damaged. On 5channel’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” (live-discussion) board, the news set off a wave of comments ranging well beyond the Shinagawa trouble itself — into construction problems reported all along the route, and into whether the maglev project is even necessary at all. Opinion is split between posters who think the whole thing should be scrapped and those who argue that, having come this far, there’s no choice but to push on.

    Boring machine damaged, maglev construction halted — tunnel in Tokyo’s Shinagawa Ward

    Published 10/8 (Thu) 17:09

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:32
    Just don't run the maglev all the way to Tokyo then, problem solved
    4AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:32
    Why not skip Shinagawa entirely and route it straight into Tokyo Station?
    5AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:33
    The incompetent bunch who spent all that time pinning the blame on Kawakatsu instead of actually making progress
    8AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:33
    What if that rock is a sealing stone holding back Lord Masakado or some local deity? (Taira no Masakado — a 10th-century rebel whose vengeful spirit is the subject of a famous Tokyo curse legend)
    12AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:34
    Yeah, this isn't opening in my lifetime.
    How much of the route actually avoids deep boring, anyway?
    Hashimoto–Nakatsugawa isn't really any different from a normal tunnel.
    Though Hashimoto's pretty far out as it is.
    13AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:35
    I wonder who even has the authority to call this thing off
    15AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:36
    Re: #13
    Kawakatsu's been saying that this whole time
    14AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:36
    Setting off Shinagawa's "elites" sounds like it could get ugly (slang for the privileged upper class, who have outsized clout in the area)
    16AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:36
    What about digging under the park in Tachikawa instead?
    21AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:41
    Just blow it up with explosives, it's only rock
    23AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:42
    There was a news story about a huge rock turning up in a river near my place too.
    Wonder if I'll even still be alive by the time this maglev opens.
    24AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:42
    Is transportation really so bad that we need a maglev in the first place?
    28AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:45
    Re: #24
    It's basically an old man's pipe dream, right?
    China's already got a maglev running, so it's pride as a high-speed-rail superpower lol

    Pretty much both
    25AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:43
    It's all about saving face at this point.
    This thing won't be open even 50 years from now.
    29AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:45
    Hashimoto to Sagamihara probably has all kinds of stuff buried too
    36AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:52
    Re: #29
    It's not so much Hashimoto — east of Kawasaki it doesn't go that deep, so it's probably fine
    30AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:47
    Re: #28
    If budget actually got approved for a reason that flimsy, construction would've started back in the '90s and it'd already be open by now.
    In fact the original plan had it finished sometime in the 2000s.
    35AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:52
    Sounds like everyone wants to pull the plug now.
    A maglev, at this point? lol (the trailing "()" stands in for a sarcastic laugh)
    39AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:54
    Why not do the Osaka–Nagoya stretch first?
    How long are they gonna leave the Tokyo–Osaka shortest route just sitting there?
    41AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:54
    So once the maglev's actually built, is everyone really gonna ride it?
    When there's already a regular shinkansen?
    95AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:33
    Re: #41
    It's almost entirely underground, right?
    That kills any urge to ride it
    42AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:54
    Looks like the bill's finally coming due for blaming Kawakatsu as an excuse to not move forward while just angling for budget
    43AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:54
    What's even wrong with flying Haneda–Itami…
    68AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:13
    Re: #43
    That's not really the point.
    China has a maglev and our country doesn't.
    They're only building this because that stings ("wa-kuni" — sarcastic internet slang for "our country")
    47AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:58
    Why not just route it somewhere else?
    Doesn't Shinagawa overlap with shinkansen riders anyway?
    50AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:00
    Re: #47
    It has to be somewhere downtown with open space underground or nobody will use it.
    Places like Tokyo, Shinjuku, Shibuya already have subway lines running through, so avoiding them is a nightmare
    55AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:04
    If this is what finally makes them quit, that's still the better outcome.
    If they can't quit, it'll be more rock like this down the line — 20 trillion, 30 trillion yen more.
    Fare on a regular line: ¥1,000.
    Shinkansen: ¥50,000 — the maglev will never actually happen
    62AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:10
    Re: #55
    Even if they quit, it's not like fares get any cheaper
    61AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:09
    Why won't they just make the call to cancel it
    The cost-effectiveness is seriously way too bad
    65AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:11
    Re: #61
    The call is that it's too late to stop now
    74AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:15
    Besides, we're already struggling to keep up with infrastructure maintenance as it is — building something like this underground, what are we supposed to do about it down the road?
    76AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:17
    Re: #74
    Because feeling good about ourselves right now matters more than infrastructure down the road (self-congratulatory national-pride vibes)
    79AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:19
    Here we go again.
    Yamanashi Prefecture
    – The rock in the South Alps is too hard to bore through. Considered impossible to penetrate with current technology

    Kanagawa Prefecture
    – Land acquisition has made zero progress, stalling construction of the train depot too
    – Tried to build a contaminated-soil dump site under the guise of a "ranch," got caught, had to cancel

    Tokyo
    – After watching NEXCO's road construction cause ground subsidence in Chofu, the well-to-do residents of Denenchofu flipped to the anti-maglev camp (final boss)
    – Shinagawa's ground is so unstable that any subsidence risks lawsuits from the businesses above, so they can't move a single millimeter outside state-owned land (hidden boss)
    – Harmful gas bubbles believed to be caused by construction chemicals have shown up in the Meguro River and in Machida


    Nagano Prefecture
    – Residents furious after it came out that heavy-metal-contaminated soil was used for a bridge in Iida
    – Well water is drying up

    Gifu Prefecture
    – 14 residential water sources have dried up
    – The construction route runs straight into a uranium vein (secret boss)

    Aichi Prefecture
    – Turns out the ground in the soft-soil section of the Kasugai work zone is so bad there's a real risk of collapse. Impossible to build with current technology
    97AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:38
    Re: #79
    Out of all that, the genuinely scary ones are
    the uranium and the soft ground
    99AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:40
    Only business travelers are gonna ride something like this anyway.
    There's no scenery, so riding it would be boring even if you did
    102AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:41
    Re: #99
    If you want the shortest route, go look for it on a different line

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The Chuo Shinkansen maglev line originally targeted a 2027 opening, but the schedule has been pushed back significantly because Shizuoka Prefecture (under then-Governor Heita Kawakatsu) withheld approval for construction over water-resource concerns at the South Alps Tunnel. The boring-machine damage in Shinagawa reported here is a separate, newly surfaced technical problem in the Tokyo metropolitan section of the line. In the thread, the single incident of “rock too hard to drill through” snowballed into a broader discussion of the water-source depletion, ground subsidence, and stalled land acquisition facing various prefectures along the entire route, with many commenters questioning whether the project should go forward at all. It’s worth noting, though, that the long rundown of regional problems (post 79) is an unverified summary circulating on 5channel, and specifics like the supposed uranium vein have not been confirmed by any official announcement. Disagreement over how to judge Kawakatsu personally runs in the background of all this, but this article focuses mainly on the facts of the construction itself.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5channel (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Sad News] Maglev construction hits absurdly hard rock in Shinagawa, and it’s seriously, truly over 😭“

  • Ex-Prefectural Official Banned from Pharmacy After Repeated Complaints, Loses Customer-Harassment Lawsuit

    A man in his 70s, a former senior official at a prefectural government office, repeatedly complained because he was dissatisfied with how a pharmacy explained his medication and handled his requests. The pharmacy judged this to be customer harassment (“kasuhara”) and banned him from the premises. The man sued for 500,000 yen in damages, arguing the ban was unjustified, but the court sided with the pharmacy, ruling its response was reasonable, and the decision rejecting his claim became final. On the discussion thread, most commenters dismissed the man as a “rōgai” (a slur for troublesome elderly people) or a habitual complainer, but some voiced discomfort that a mere misunderstanding over a coupon explanation escalated into a lawsuit, and noted that the pharmacy’s initial response also lacked courtesy — sparking debate over exactly where the line for “customer harassment” should be drawn.

    Madoka Seto

    2026.10.10 06:30

    A man in his 70s, dissatisfied with a pharmacy’s response, repeatedly demanded further explanations and was ultimately banned from the premises on grounds of customer harassment (“kasuhara”). He sought 500,000 yen in damages, calling the ban unjustified, but the court finalized a ruling in the pharmacy’s favor.

    Source: agora-web.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:03
    I bet the people at the prefectural office are all going, 'Ahh, that guy… yeah, makes sense.'
    3AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:05
    Very 'civil servant' of him.
    4AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:14
    Well, in your 70s some memory decline ('boke') starts creeping in — I get that no matter how many times you explain it, sometimes it just won't sink in.
    7AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:34
    This one explains it better
    https://kasuhara-navi.com/news-20261010/
    Sure, the pharmacy was a bit at fault too, but
    it really feels like the complainer went way too far

    Just because the other side apologized once
    doesn't mean you get to force them
    into giving the exact response YOU want —
    he really should've understood that much.
    14AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:36
    Re: #7
    Even at the pharmacy level, they need security cameras that can record audio too.
    25AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:08
    Re: #7
    So the whole thing kicked off because they told him to ask the front desk about the coupon and he blew his top?
    Pathetic.
    8AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:34
    A 'yakuza doctor,' that's what he is, y'know (said in regional dialect, playing on 'pharmacist').
    9AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:42
    Is this the Kanagawa Prefectural Office?
    12AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:15
    Harassers like this should just get banned and refused service left and right — simple as that.
    13AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:27
    A normal person would never end up having a problem at a pharmacy in the first place.
    19AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:34
    For a second I misread 'pharmacist' (薬剤師) as 'Yakushi-ji Temple' (similar-looking kanji) — then went, well yeah, of course that's not it, lol.
    20AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:37
    Yeah, the medication notebook thing, unsolicited explanations about your meds — that gets annoying…
    23AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:00
    I'll go ahead and say it: this is customer harassment! (a riff on Char's famous Gundam line, 'I dare say it: trash!')
    26AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:00
    The 'let me set you straight!!' type, huh? Take it outside.
    32AnonymousOct 11, 2026 05:54
    Looks like a petty squabble and a stubborn pride contest that just snowballed into a lawsuit.
    33AnonymousOct 11, 2026 06:50
    Honestly, pharmacists aren't even needed for this kind of thing
    hurry up and replace it with AI already.
    34AnonymousOct 11, 2026 07:19
    Why are there so many arrogant people among prefectural government employees?
    35AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:37
    Re: #25,28
    Right — he got coldly brushed off because it wasn't really their job to explain, and that turned into a complaint. The pharmacy wasn't exactly courteous either (well, it's a customer-facing business), so once they apologized, he just got more worked up. As the article in Re: #1 points out, his career background and age were probably factors too, but either way — what a headache for everyone involved.
    36AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:43
    There was also a guy who threw a fit about being 'called by a number.'
    37AnonymousOct 11, 2026 08:57
    Repeatedly demanding more of someone else's time until you get an answer that satisfies YOU — that's customer harassment.
    You're just expecting way too much from the other person to begin with.
    38AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:13
    People say the medication explanations are annoying, just hand it over and shut up — but stuff like 'the three meds got cut down to two' or 'this got handed to the wrong person with the same name'
    some things you genuinely can't know without confirming with the patient. Cut them some slack.
    39AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:28
    The ending of the article cracked me up.
    40AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:48
    If he'd been countersued for defamation or obstruction of business, he probably would've lost that one too.
    41AnonymousOct 11, 2026 09:56
    Took a whole three years, huh.

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    Customer-harassment countermeasures are a policy area that’s rapidly developing in Japan, with the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare publishing response manuals for businesses; “demanding excessive apologies” and “demanding written apologies” are frequently cited as textbook examples. In this case too, the fact that the man demanded a written apology appears to be what tipped the scales from an ordinary complaint into harassment territory. Opinions on the thread were split: while most commenters flatly branded the man a “rōgai” (troublesome elderly nuisance) or a habitual complainer, a fair number also pointed out that the pharmacy’s own explanations fell short of courteous. Where exactly a single complaint crosses into harassment reportedly comes down to factors like repetition and the nature of the demands — some felt it was “bizarre that something as minor as a coupon explanation ended up in court” — but the fact that it took three years from filing to verdict suggests this was never really just a one-off complaint blown out of proportion.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Business news+) thread “[Society] Ex-prefectural official who complained “the pharmacist’s tone was rude” banned from pharmacy: Pharmacy wins customer-harassment lawsuit.”