Latest from Japan

From our other sites

  • VIVANT Crossover Hijacks TBS Thanksgiving Special for a Surprise ‘Detective Tsuda’ Takeover — Net Reaction Split Between Praise and Confusion

    During the live broadcast of TBS’s “All-Star Thanksgiving Festival ’26 Autumn,” gunshots suddenly rang out in the studio, kicking off a surprise segment: the popular “Detective Tsuda” corner from Wednesday Downtown. As host Kouji Imada called for someone to solve the case, a call came in from “Drum,” a character from the drama VIVANT, and a monitor lit up showing Masato Sakai as “Nogi” — who then nominated Tsuda, creating a two-layer crossover stunt. On 5ch’s Geinou/Sports News+ board, reactions split roughly down the middle between “I want to see this as its own standalone show” and confusion along the lines of “the in-jokes went so far I couldn’t tell what show I was watching.” The thread also veered into discussing the historical standings of the festival’s famous quiz championship.

    10/10 (Sat) 23:25

    TBS’s “All-Star Thanksgiving Festival ’26 Autumn: 70th Broadcast Anniversary Special” aired on the 10th. During the show, “Detective Tsuda,” the popular recurring segment from Wednesday Downtown, kicked off.

    Near the end of the broadcast, gunshots suddenly rang out in the studio and one of the festival’s assistants collapsed. As MC Kouji Imada called out to the cast, “Hold on, everyone! We’ve got to solve this! Is there anyone here who can solve this case?”, a call came in from “Drum” of VIVANT, and a monitor lit up showing Masato Sakai as “Nogi.” After hearing Drum out, Nogi said, “That sounds serious. Normally I’d rush over myself, but… is there anyone there who might be able to solve it?” before declaring, “Let’s leave it to Mr. Tsuda! Everyone, please back him up!”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:57
    The way they cleaned up the body was hilarious
    55AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:07
    Re: #4
    He was really committed to the role, that was funny.
    Getting dragged around like that must've hurt though.
    5AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:58
    Lately whenever I hear 'Drum,' all I want is some KFC.
    Good evening, this is Hikaru Ijuin. (riffing on radio DJ Hikaru Ijuin's famous nightly greeting)
    6AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:58
    The 'nobody has any right to complain about a secret guest' theory going around was itself foreshadowing for Tsuda, huh.
    10AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:00
    Re: #6
    Maybe that's also why they called in the actual assistant (probably the 'victim') for the Thanksgiving quiz segment over on Lovit!
    8AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:59
    📺 All-Star Thanksgiving Festival
    🏆 Overall Championship Recap

    Autumn 2026: Ano (2nd–5th: Fukura P, Nakama, Kawashima, Soshina)
    Spring 2026: Junta Nakama (2nd: Takushi Izawa)
    Autumn 2025: Takushi Izawa (2nd: Soshina)
    Spring 2025: Takushi Izawa (2nd: Kirin's Kawashima)
    Autumn 2024: Takushi Izawa (3rd: Kirin's Kawashima)
    Spring 2024: Soshina (5th: Takushi Izawa)
    Autumn 2023: Soshina (2nd: Takushi Izawa)
    Spring 2023: Kirin's Kawashima (Izawa and Soshina did not compete)
    Autumn 2022: New York's Yashiki (5th: Kirin's Kawashima)
    Spring 2022: Soshina (11th: Kirin's Kawashima)
    28AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:23
    Re: #8
    Soshina and Kawashima are impressive too, always battling the Quiz King for the win — but Ano-chan taking the title as a woman is impressive as well.
    50AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:55
    Re: #8
    Ano-chan:
    Wins at quizzes
    Athletic as hell
    Way too stacked
    11AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:03
    Honestly, squeezing in one of Tsuda's skits just made me feel like the Thanksgiving Festival has gone downhill.
    12AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:03
    I wonder if Minamikawa even checked his schedule for tomorrow.
    80AnonymousOct 11, 2026 04:07
    Re: #12
    Minamikawa was actually supposed to go to Taiwan for a different show, but Tsuda showed up at the after-party, turned the Taiwan trip into a quiz, and dragged him off anyway.
    15AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:05
    This is starting to feel like Gaki no Tsukai's 'No Laughing Allowed' specials. (the New Year's batsu-game show infamous for ballooning in scale until it got stale) The bigger the stakes get, the less fun it becomes.
    16AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:06
    At this point, 'Detective Tsuda' might as well just eat Wednesday Downtown whole.
    17AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:08
    I don't get what's supposed to be funny about watching Tsuda do a bit everyone already knows is staged.
    18AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:08
    It's live TV, so Tsuda probably had to be careful and couldn't act too reluctant about it.
    19AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:08
    Detective Tsuda

    I want this as its own show already — two seasons a year.
    22AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:14
    Don't need Drum.
    Do need Minamikawa.
    24AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:16
    Drum's gonna wreck the pacing — let him bail out somewhere along the way.
    42AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:43
    Re: #24
    Seriously, same.
    It's grating, just swap in Minamikawa already.
    25AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:18
    Odd that it was Tsuda sitting next to Kawashima instead of Oidayasu Oda — guess this is why.
    27AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:21
    Ugh, what a garbage segment.
    Glad I skipped it.
    29AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:24
    Re: #23
    It's the clear #1 on TVer though. If anything's 'gone downhill,' it's the entire Japanese public.
    31AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:25
    Re: #29
    You, maybe.
    I haven't gone downhill though.
    60AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:29
    Re: #29
    That skit I can't figure out the appeal of is apparently that popular…
    Makes me realize my sense of humor is just out of sync with everyone else's (´・ω・`)
    30AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:24
    Since it's live, Imada was clearly signaling 'read the room and just decide already.'
    32AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:26
    Hadn't watched in ages, but the insider jokes were so heavy it made no sense most of the time. Guess it's been a while since I watched TV at all, period.
    35AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:29
    It's supposedly a murder case, but they just left the body lying there — some 'solving,' huh.
    36AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:31
    So is Minamikawa getting dragged off starting from the after-party?
    37AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:34
    Going head-to-head with Kohaku on New Year's Eve — even Producer Fujii probably doesn't want to do that, right?
    45AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:47
    Re: #37
    Even 'The Wall' wouldn't want to go up against Kohaku either.
    Ariyoshi hosted Kohaku for three years — having him come back the next year to counter-program it would be a betrayal.
    38AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:34
    Isn't this not even a real Wednesday Downtown segment, just a plain skit? I only watch the show for actual Wednesday Downtown content, so cut it out.
    39AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:35
    Guess the after-party segment itself was getting stale, so this was their way of spicing it up?
    40AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:36
    The fact that nobody's watching TV anymore so it's not even generating buzz feels real lol
    41AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:40
    Watched for the first time in years — barely anyone was there, and for something called 'All-Star' the lineup was so low-key I wondered what show I was even watching.
    44AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:46
    The Thanksgiving Festival has gotten kind of lame. I used to love it when the 'Kyube' thing Yasumura talked about would actually show up time after time, and watching the celebrities during the breaks was fun too.
    46AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:48
    Unlike Imada, Wakako Shimazaki hadn't been briefed, and on top of that she'd apparently never even seen 'Detective Tsuda' before — so her reactions were completely off the mark.
    72AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:52
    All-Star Thanksgiving Festival '26 Autumn
    #TVer
    https://tver.jp/episodes/epseq61inc
    73AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:52
    Re: #72
    They only streamed that part.

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    “Detective Tsuda” is a popular segment from Wednesday Downtown in which celebrities try to solve a staged mystery — a format familiar to viewers. This time, the bit was folded into the live variety special “All-Star Thanksgiving Festival,” with an added twist: a character from the separate drama VIVANT calls in over a monitor to Masato Sakai’s character “Nogi,” who in turn nominates Tsuda — a double-layered crossover that’s the real novelty here. The thread split between viewers who praised the segment as “entertaining enough to overshadow Wednesday Downtown itself” and those who criticized it as “so dependent on inside references that it’s meaningless if you don’t know the source material,” with both sides’ opinions hinging on how familiar they were with the original shows. Separately, though not covered in the article itself, the Thanksgiving Festival’s quiz competition has in recent years been dominated by regulars like Takushi Izawa and Soshina, so the fact that Ano-chan won this time was part of what fueled the discussion.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “‘All-Star Thanksgiving Festival’ Live Broadcast Shocker! ‘Detective Tsuda’ Kicks Off! VIVANT’s Masato Sakai Makes the Call — Drum Steps In as Partner.”

  • 3.395 Million Japanese Earn Over ¥10 Million a Year — Just 6.6% of Workers, Tax Agency Finds

    According to the National Tax Agency’s survey on private-sector salary conditions for fiscal 2025, 3.395 million people earn more than ¥10 million a year — 6.6% of all salaried workers. The gender gap is striking too: 2.999 million men compared to just 398,000 women. On 5ch’s Newsplus (Breaking News+) board, reactions ranged from comments on the cost of city living — “In Tokyo, 1 in 3 people clear that mark,” “Feels about the same as a ¥6 million salary 30 years ago” — to debates over whether income or assets are the better measure, and complaints that even clearing ¥10 million doesn’t actually buy a comfortable life.

    (Omitted)

    ● [Number of People and Income Tax by Salary Bracket]

    In the National Tax Agency’s fiscal 2025 survey on private-sector salary conditions, breaking down the 51.631 million salaried workers employed throughout the year by salary bracket, 3.395 million people earned more than ¥10 million a year. That’s 6.6% of the total.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    14AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:32
    Apparently 1 in 10 people clear ¥10 million, but narrow it down to Tokyo and I'd bet it's more like 1 in 3.

    ¥10 million a year these days is basically like ¥6 million 30 years ago.
    101AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:41
    Re: #14
    Ah, true that. I'm in Tokyo too, so it's really not that big a deal.
    104AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:43
    Re: #14
    Isn't that just because taxes and insurance premiums have gone up compared to 30 years ago?
    111AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:47
    Re: #14
    ¥10 million in Tokyo and ¥6 million in Nagoya buy you about the same standard of living.
    17AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:36
    The tax rate on a ¥10 million salary is 43%.
    The tax rate on investment income is 20%.
    The property tax rate is 1.7%.

    Assets matter more than income.
    25AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:43
    Re: #17
    The progressive tax system is clearly broken, don't you think? Given the cost of social security, it should really work like this: lower income tax rates as income rises, not the other way around. For example, on a ¥10 million income:
    – 50% on the portion up to ¥3 million,
    – 40% on the portion from ¥3-6 million,
    – 30% on the portion from ¥6-9 million,
    – 10% on the portion from ¥9-10 million.
    Something along those lines.
    176AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:49
    Re: #17
    You don't even know the difference between revenue and taxable income?
    19AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:40
    Living in Tokyo on a ¥10 million salary, you really don't get that much breathing room.
    143AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:10
    Re: #19
    Depends on whether you've got a wife and kids. If you're a 'single aristocrat' (Japanese slang for singles living it up with no dependents) or a DINK couple, you're living easy. Wife plus one kid, it's decent. Two kids, you're cutting it close.
    27AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:44
    At my workplace, 3 people in my department alone clear ¥10 million in salary — but if you count side income, I'd guess half the department is over ¥10 million. Side jobs are officially banned, though.
    29AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:44
    If you're 40 or 50 and have saved less than ¥1 million, that's on you. People like that shouldn't get welfare either. I'm from the same 'Ice Age generation' (Japan's lost generation that graduated into a brutal job market), worked at a 'black' company (slang for an abusive, exploitative employer), scrimped nonstop with retirement in mind, and managed to save up ¥3,000.
    34AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:48
    Re: #29
    Right, take that ¥30 million, dump it into the investments the government's been pushing, go for FIRE! …and still end up needing welfare. It's all about the outcome, isn't it.
    35AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:50
    Re: #29
    Try a little harder.
    31AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:45
    I know plenty of 'one-man contractors' (independent operators, common in construction) who clear ¥10 million no problem. As usual, these numbers are probably bogus.
    42AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:54
    Re: #31
    A one-man contractor's ¥10 million isn't the same as a salaried employee's ¥10 million.
    38AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:52
    It's wild how the '6.6% elite' show up in droves on every 5ch income thread.
    47AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:57
    Re: #38
    People have been saying that since the old 2ch days when I was young, so there's something moving about realizing I actually made it to 'that side' — but my take-home pay really hasn't gone up. It's not going down either, I guess.
    49AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:59
    Newsplus (the '+' board) regulars are all self-proclaimed ¥10-million earners. And self-proclaimed elite-educated and tall, too.
    70AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:13
    Re: #49
    Nope — the self-proclaimed story is ¥15 million a year, a licensed professional who graduated from Tokyo Tech, wife earning ¥9 million, ¥70 million in savings, and two kids in private school.
    103AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:42
    Re: #49
    Funny how nobody ever self-proclaims being good-looking too, lol.
    50AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:59
    Re: #42
    That's true for gross revenue, but when people talk about a sole proprietor's 'annual income,' they usually mean total taxable income, not gross revenue — so it shouldn't diverge that much. Not having an employer's share of social insurance premiums lowers taxable income a bit, and there's no future retirement payout, but that's not a difference of several million yen.
    55AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:04
    Re: #50
    What are you even basing that generalization about sole proprietors on?
    53AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:01
    My salary's only ¥5.1 million, but my passive side income is ¥4.1 million, so my total annual income comes to ¥9.2 million.
    62AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:08
    Re: #53
    That's just you calling your own passive income a 'side job.' That's not standard usage. If it's passive, you could argue you're not actually 'doing' any business at all. From a tax standpoint, what you call it depends on what kind of income it actually is.
    59AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:06
    Having a high income, honestly… it's not that great. Work just keeps me too busy. Today the neighbors were setting up a BBQ with their kids. Meanwhile I've got work through this entire three-day weekend. About all I get to do is buy whatever food I like and eat it.
    63AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:08
    Re: #59
    Not necessarily. Depends on the person.
    71AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:14
    That's more than I expected.
    75AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:17
    Re: #71
    Prices have gone up about 30% over the last 10 years, yet only 6% of the population clears ¥10 million. By rights, wages should have risen 30% too — something's off.
    91AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:25
    Re: #81
    As long as you're earning through labor, you can't become rich — labor is bound by time, and you can't work more than 24 hours a day.

    The people who get rich around the world aren't the ones earning through labor. What separates people in life is whether they build a 'system' that brings in money outside of labor. Some people have caught onto that rule; others haven't.
    92AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:27
    Re: #91
    You mean like being paid hourly?
    107AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:44
    Re: #92
    That's not what I meant. Not just in Japan — people who get rich worldwide don't make a living by selling off their own time piece by piece. They might earn their first seed money through labor, but at some point they switch to letting money work for them (investing), or hiring other people to work and taking the company's profits (executive pay, stock dividends, etc.) — building a system that brings in money without spending their own time. They set it up so the cash just keeps rolling in, even while relaxing at a resort or sound asleep.

    Forbes puts out its world billionaires ranking every year, and not a single salaried employee makes the top of that list. Almost all of them are capitalists who built systems that earn money while they sleep.
    114AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:49
    Re: #107
    Look at dentists, for example — even though they're high earners, they're making every yen with their own two hands, so it's rough. If something ever stops them from working, they're in trouble immediately. Passive income is a blessing. My current income is 100% passive.
    118AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:51
    Re: #107
    Sounds like you fell for one of those get-rich-quick pitches that love quoting 'Rich Dad Poor Dad' or 'Who Moved My Cheese?'
    129AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:02
    Honestly, in central Tokyo, ¥10 million a year is about the level where a single person can finally live a halfway decent life (´・ω・`)
    147AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:14
    Re: #129
    In central Tokyo, yeah. Just being a regular salaried employee, nobody takes you seriously. Past that income level, people start aiming to incorporate themselves, so below that you basically get treated like a kid — that's what I mean.
    151AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:16
    Re: #129
    Normally it'd be more like a dual-income couple — husband at ¥10 million, wife at ¥7 million.

    Background and Key Points of Debate

    This statistic comes from the National Tax Agency’s annual survey on private-sector salary conditions, covering 51.631 million salaried workers employed throughout the year. It doesn’t include self-employed income or side income that’s only captured through separate tax filings, so — as one commenter noted with ‘even a one-man contractor can easily clear ¥10 million’ — the meaning of ‘annual income’ for salaried workers versus everyone else can’t be compared directly. Where the thread split was over whether ¥10 million should count as ‘high income’ or as merely ‘average once you factor in prices and regional differences,’ with commenters pointing out that ¥10 million in Tokyo buys a similar standard of living to ¥6 million in the countryside, and debating whether assets (a stock measure) matter more than income (a flow measure). On the other hand, factors behind the gender gap (2.999 million men vs. 398,000 women) — such as differences in years of service or the share of management positions — weren’t explored in much depth in the thread, so it’s worth being cautious about letting the raw numbers speak for themselves without that context.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Newsplus) thread “[Latest] 3.395 Million People Earn Over ¥10 Million a Year, 6.6% of the Total — 2.999 Million Men, 398,000 Women.”

  • Miki Fujimoto Questions School Lunch Milk Budget: ‘Maybe Water Would Do?’

    It was reported that married couple Miki Fujimoto and Tomoharu Shoji covered an elementary school lunch program on Fuji TV’s “Mikiti Dining,” and in discussing the high cost of milk, remarked something like “Wouldn’t water be fine at this point?” On 5ch threads, opinions clashed between those who said milk is necessary for nutrients like calcium and those who pointed out it ignores children with lactose intolerance. Many also raised concerns about the soaring cost of ingredients like rice and vegetables, and the general shortfall in school lunch funding. Additionally, posts repeatedly referenced photographer Ken Domon’s work documenting the poverty-stricken school lunch conditions of the past, reflecting on the contrast with today.

    Miki Fujimoto stunned by elementary school lunch budget: “Wouldn’t you think, ‘Isn’t water fine already?’”

    Talent Miki Fujimoto (41) and her husband Tomoharu Shoji (50), of the comedy duo Shinagawa Shoji, appeared on Fuji TV’s “Mikiti Dining” (Saturdays, 11 a.m.) on the 10th, where they shared their thoughts on elementary school lunch budgets.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    3AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:56
    Milk's got great nutritional bang for the buck.
    5AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:00
    Milk and eggs are essential for broke guys like me who cook for themselves.
    There's no way water would cut it, that's just an exaggeration.
    6AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:00
    Moms with big families pull off meals for under ¥200 per person at cheap supermarkets.
    20AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:18
    Re: #6
    Sure, if you don't worry about nutritional balance.
    7AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:01
    Going after the milk industry's vested interests? That's insane.
    8AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:05
    Apparently some places are trying serving tea instead lol
    9AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:07
    Talking up milk's nutrition completely ignores kids with lactose intolerance.
    It's just armchair theorizing.
    11AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:11
    Glad I was born a winner, eating MosBurger at midnight while reading this thread.
    12AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:11
    Rice prices are still high.
    Other food and drink items are pricey too because ingredient costs have soared.

    Prices should vary by supplier, so they should use cheaper vendors to cover the gap well.
    Kids these days eat more than kids used to.
    13AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:11
    Lavish spending abroad, penny-pinching at home — what kind of government is this?
    14AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:14
    Even if it's to cover necessary nutrients,
    pairing rice with milk is just nuts.
    15AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:17
    Why not just charge separately for milk?
    Kids who want milk pay extra on top of the lunch fee.

    I never liked milk and always gave mine to the boys, so I'm in the 'milk's unnecessary' camp.
    17AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:17
    The thread title leaves out 'milk,' so it reads like she said 'skip the lunch entirely and just give them water.'
    19AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:18
    Can't really say anything since we don't even know what share of the budget milk takes up to begin with.
    At the very least, she should've said something like 'the budget for side dishes shrank' or 'the number of dishes dropped due to rising ingredient costs.'
    21AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:19
    Nutrition can just be covered at home, right?
    Just think of school lunch as fuel to get through studying.
    If it's meant to be a full meal, of course it's going to be lame.
    Either pay up, or do the job parents are supposed to do.
    24AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:22
    At my old 'Otokojuku' (a famously over-the-top macho boys' school from manga), lunch was just 100g of protein powder, white rice, miso soup, and pickles.
    Weirdly, everyone was still bursting with energy.
    26AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:29
    Milk has calcium in it, so it's a nutrient kids need 🥺
    27AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:30
    Lunchtime scene at a Chikuho elementary school decades ago.
    Decades back, before school lunches existed, many kids brought their own boxed lunches.
    The kids who couldn't even bring a lunch had nowhere to look, so they'd read magazines instead…

    A famous photo by the late photographer Ken Domon.

    https://stat.ameba.jp/user_images/20210211/10/shigacth0130/6b/5a/j/o0810108014894614749.jpg
    'Children of Chikuho'
    By Ken Domon
    'The Child Who Doesn't Bring a Lunch' (1959)
    34AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:36
    Re: #27

    'The principal is careful not to let the faces of children who don't bring lunch be photographed.
    The troubled kids stay home from school when it rains.

    It's especially the malnourished-looking children, the ones who need school lunch most, who don't bring a boxed lunch.

    The child without a lunch sits looking at a picture book.
    Even when the kids with lunches suddenly burst out laughing at something, the child without a lunch never turns to look.
    They never turn around, as if it had nothing to do with them at all.'

    (From Ken Domon's 'Children of Chikuho')
    40AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:41
    Re: #27
    Seeing photos like that makes you realize just being able to eat is a blessing in itself.
    It was a shock to learn there were people who couldn't eat because they couldn't even bring a lunch.
    So Japan really did go through times like that.
    I didn't even know there was no food during the war until I got to college, and I had no idea life was still that harsh even after the war, not until I saw this photo just now.
    Were there no convenience stores back then? Not even half-price unsold bread from a supermarket?
    Being born in this era, I guess I didn't know anything.
    Also, looking closer at the photo, a lot of them have shaved heads.
    Was buzzcuts a trend back then? Not the delinquent kind of buzzcut, but the real, proper kind — everywhere lol
    62AnonymousOct 11, 2026 03:17
    Re: #27
    I already knew this photo, but it's still painful no matter how many times I see it.
    Now that I have kids of my own, it's even more painful.
    I wish hungry children would just disappear from this world.

    If the lunch budget is so tight, I think they should at least let kids bring extra staple food from home to supplement it.
    Honestly, how much kids eat varies person to person, and I always felt bad for the ones who didn't get enough.
    But for some reason that's never allowed.
    And yet they're quick to tell parents to suddenly pack a lunch the day after a typhoon passes.
    28AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:31
    Well, if it's just about getting calcium, dried sardines (iriko) would work too.
    Maybe serve iriko at lunch and just do barley tea for the drink 🥺
    29AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:33
    She's probably not even thinking about how switching to water would wreck the dairy suppliers who deliver the milk.
    30AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:33
    The nutrients don't change, so just switch to cheap low-fat milk.
    31AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:34
    When milk delivery salesmen come by, if you tell them you get diarrhea from drinking milk, they give up and leave right away lol
    33AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:36
    Re: #31
    Didn't realize there were still places doing home delivery these days.
    32AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:36
    I realized back in upper elementary school that milk doesn't go with rice, so I always left it at lunch — still grew to 185cm.
    I've wiped out on a motorcycle before and never broken a bone.
    So milk's unnecessary.
    35AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:38
    Milk's basically a cheat code for hitting nutrition targets.
    It's considered nutrient-dense, but whether it actually gets absorbed is a different story.
    36AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:38
    Milk, chicken curry, veggie salad —
    I think that could easily fit within ¥360.
    Unlike eating out, there's no service staff cost to cover.
    It's because they needlessly try to cram in more side dishes that the menu ends up looking so skimpy.
    38AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:39
    You sometimes see private-label products at supermarkets.
    You can buy something nearly the same quality as the national brand for cheaper.

    If they did the same thing here, they could keep school lunch costs down.
    39AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:41
    I hated milk so I always gave mine away.
    Tea would be fine, no?
    45AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:49
    What Miki's probably trying to say is: if kids already drink milk in the morning, why eat into such a big chunk of the food budget giving them milk at lunch too? If that's her point, I'm on board.
    These days people just send their kids off with tea or water in a water bottle anyway.
    46AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:51
    Re: #45
    Being able to drink milk in the morning at all — how rich do you have to be!
    52AnonymousOct 11, 2026 02:56
    Re: #40

    Since high schoolers a few years before this photo was taken had this hairstyle,
    the generation below them was probably the same way.

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/358586826319960/posts/1026944186150884/
    > Male high schoolers around Showa 28 (1953), Nagano Prefecture
    > A generation that lived through wartime evacuations and air raids.
    > Many were rough-and-tumble "bankara" types — all in stand-collar uniforms with shaved heads. On their feet, "hoba" wooden clogs.
    > Back when the average male lifespan was 61.9 years, everyone looks older than their age.

    If you're interested in the photo book, try borrowing it from a library… and maybe some of Ken Domon's other photo books too, like "Hiroshima."

    https://calil.jp/search?q=%E7%AD%91%E8%B1%8A%E3%81%AE%E3%81%93%E3%81%A9%E3%82%82%E3%81%9F%E3%81%A1
    'Children of Chikuho'

    Give your local library a search
    Calil is a service for searching library holdings across Japan

    The large-format complete-works edition from Shogakukan should be held by more libraries.
    67AnonymousOct 11, 2026 03:28
    Re: #52
    Everyone's got a buzzcut!
    Guess that was just the trend back then?
    More surprising to me is that they're wearing wooden clogs.
    Japan really did have times like this.
    Can't believe it.
    Around that era must've been when my grandpa was a kid — must've been a brutal time.
    Still, everyone's got an oddly solid build, broad shoulders and all.
    Their faces look kind of rugged too.
    Not a single Johnny's-looking guy in the bunch. (Johnny's = the talent agency famous for pretty-boy idols)
    70AnonymousOct 11, 2026 03:35
    Re: #67

    Looks like I had the wrong idea about this too.

    http://www.domonken-kinenkan.jp/domonken/kodomo/
    Ken Domon and His Work: Children

    Seems like even in cities, not everyone had a shaved head, but short hairstyles were common.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    Milk became a fixture of school lunches as a postwar measure against malnutrition, formally established under the 1954 School Lunch Act — a policy background that also helped stabilize demand for the dairy industry. Because of this, the claim that “cutting milk would free up the budget” isn’t so simple: milk itself is actually a relatively cheap item within the school lunch budget, and in recent years it’s the overall surge in ingredient costs — rice, vegetables, and the like — that’s really been squeezing budgets. The thread split along a divide between those who see milk as a necessary source of nutrition and those who see it as a system that ignores individual differences like lactose intolerance — though both sides agreed on a shared frustration over the underlying shortfall in school lunch funding.

    ※This article was compiled by excerpting and summarizing the 5ch (Geisoku Hōdō+) thread ‘[Entertainment] Miki Fujimoto Stunned by Elementary School Lunch Budget: “Wouldn’t You Think, ‘Isn’t Water Fine Already?’”.’

  • Director Mamoru Oshii’s ‘Votoms: Pale Witch’ Reveals Mech Designs — Scope Dog’s New Look Sparks Mixed Reactions

    Mech design information and new scene photos for “Armored Trooper Votoms: Pale Witch (Hexe),” directed by Mamoru Oshii, were unveiled on October 9, 2026. Based on the original work by Ryosuke Takahashi and produced by Sunrise, the two-part film depicts the final days of the war from the 1983-84 TV series. Alongside a new design for the AT (Armored Trooper) “Scope Dog,” large-scale ATs and enemy units were also revealed, and on 5ch’s Geino/Sports Flash+ board, reactions split between nostalgic welcome and complaints about the distinctly digital texture and off-balance proportions.

    October 9, 2026

    Mech design information and new scene photos for “Armored Trooper Votoms: Pale Witch (Hexe),” directed by Mamoru Oshii, have been unveiled.

    The “Armored Trooper Votoms” series is a realistic robot anime with original story and direction by Ryosuke Takahashi, produced by Sunrise. The TV series, broadcast from 1983 to 1984, was set in a world after the end of a Hundred Years’ War in the Astragius star system. The two-part “Pale Witch (Hexe)” depicts the war’s final days, portraying soldiers whose lives are treated as expendable as they pilot the humanoid weapon known as the “Scope Dog,” an AT (Armored Trooper).

    Source: natalie.mu / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:29
    Watching an Osaka night-skyline video channel on YouTube beats watching 'Peace-kun' from Omiya Park any day (Peace-kun is a local park mascot with his own livestream).
    3AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:32
    I prefer it a bit short-legged with a lower center of gravity.
    5AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:36
    I wanted a Hi-Metal R Brutishdog figure.
    9AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:39
    Speaking of 'Pale Witch,' that makes me think of Record of Lodoss War.
    10AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:39
    What's with the third picture, lol
    11AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:40
    Can't follow this thread without someone pasting that copypasta.
    13AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:40
    Is this what happens when creepy otaku demand excessive female characters?
    It's a war story, so a buff, bearded late-40s Marine type would've been fine.
    14AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:41
    It'd be boring without characters like Rochina or Kan Yu.
    15AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:42
    The mecha action's probably only about 5 minutes long anyway.
    16AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:42
    Votoms mechs aren't even that cool-looking, it's all about Kiriko anyway…

    If that's the case, just go make Fang of the Sun Dougram instead!
    19AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:43
    Is Mamoru Oshii the guy behind that really quirky Beautiful Dreamer movie?
    20AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:45
    Vwoom vwoom, whirring round, vwoooom (mimicking a mecha's engine/servo sound)
    23AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:47
    Re: #1
    The proportions are off!
    29AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:53
    What about the Strike Dog?
    30AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:53
    Are they gonna do it like Patlabor?
    38AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:57
    The head's too small so it doesn't look like a proper AT, and there are too many extra lines.
    Is the third picture trying to be a joke?
    The fourth one is out of the question.
    41AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:00
    Why does it look less cool than the old designs?
    45AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:03
    Re: #23
    Tiny head
    Puffed-out chest
    Skinny legs
    It's not a gravure idol, come on…
    54AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:12
    Something just feels off when it's all digital.
    55AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:13
    Guess he's still got the energy for this…
    60AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:25
    I've wondered this for a while, but there's no way those tiny treads alone let it run through forests or sand.
    63AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:27
    There's no room left to customize the Scope Dog, huh. Can't make it too outlandish.
    67AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:31
    What happened to that 'octopus' look? (fans nickname Scope Dog's round head design the 'octopus' look)
    71AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:36
    Doesn't this look kind of dated? The rendering style looks straight out of the Showa era.
    Is this set in the past?

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    “Armored Trooper Votoms” is a realistic robot anime written and directed by Ryosuke Takahashi and produced by Sunrise, broadcast in 1983-84. “Pale Witch” is a two-part story depicting the war’s final days, directed by Mamoru Oshii. Since someone other than the original creator is directing, it’s a project that split fan opinion from the very start.

    The thread was divided mainly over the mech designs. Reactions to the new designs for nostalgic units like the Scope Dog ranged from criticism such as “the head’s too small to look like a proper AT” and “the texture feels off with digital processing,” to more approving remarks like “it’s so polished there’s no room left to customize.” This isn’t simply a matter of liking it or not — it largely reflects differing reactions based on age group and rendering technique.

    Some comments also touched on Mamoru Oshii’s personal box-office track record and business standing from past projects, but since no concrete figures or sources were given, readers should keep in mind these remain speculation.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary from the 5ch (Geino/Sports Flash+) thread “Director Mamoru Oshii’s ‘Votoms: Pale Witch’ Mech Designs Revealed, Including Large ATs and Enemy Units Besides Scope Dog.”

  • When Corporal Punishment and Payphones Were Normal: 5ch Says the Showa Era ‘Wasn’t Coddled’

    A thread on 5ch themed around “everyday happenings and memories of the Showa era” drew a flood of posts about 1970s-80s daily life — school days where corporal punishment was just normal, collecting bottle caps from glass Coke bottles, scraping together 10-yen coins for the payphone, and the aftermath of using Japanese-style squat toilets. Some posters even casually recalled school violence and getting struck by instructors, framing things that would raise serious alarm by today’s standards as simply “how it was back then.” Most of the replies shared in nostalgia rather than conflict, but running through the whole thread was a gap between an unreconstructed fondness for Showa-era values and how things look through modern eyes.

    1AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:09
    Let's talk about the Showa era
    2AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:14
    Skip the non-AC bus and wait for the one with air conditioning
    3AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:15
    In elementary school I'd go full-force with the 'kanchō' prank on the girls in my class (kanchō: poking someone from behind with clasped fingers)
    4AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:15
    A high schooler smoking at the station
    gets yelled at by a station attendant with a perm
    5AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:15
    If you got hit, it was your own fault — same goes for losing a fistfight
    10AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:20
    We used to wipe down the floors with rags in that wooden schoolhouse
    11AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:21
    These days bidets are standard and I can't even wipe my own butt without carrying wet wipes
    but I honestly can't remember how we used to wipe with that stiff paper on squat toilets back in the Showa days lol
    58AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:59
    Re: #11
    There was that softer paper, about B5-sized, wasn't there
    12AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:26
    Junior high was peak school violence
    getting hit or put in pro-wrestling holds was just an everyday thing
    but going to school was simply what you did, so skipping never even crossed my mind
    13AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:28
    'Taking down' a teacher — that doesn't even make sense now
    violence was right on the edge of being allowed
    15AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:29
    The instructor at driving school was terrifying
    he'd punch you in the thigh lol
    17AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:31
    The science teacher who ran the kendo club
    would whack your butt with the bamboo sword
    18AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:33
    Summer vacation in elementary school — swim at the pool, come home, and mom would have somen noodles boiled and ready
    I'd love to go back, even for just one day
    19AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:35
    For some reason there was always some kid who'd poop and not flush
    and everyone would go check it out together
    24AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:42
    Re: #19
    I wondered for years why people didn't flush
    but at 47 I finally experienced it myself — with a squat toilet and weak water pressure, only the toilet paper flushes away and the poop stays put
    20AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:37
    Back then, even in the middle of summer, opening the window in the evening let the breeze in and cooled things right down
    21AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:37
    Pooping at elementary school was basically a crime
    23AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:39
    Used to buy Plassy by the case at the rice shop and drink it (Plassy: a popular orange-flavored soft drink)
    25AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:44
    Magazines used to run completely sketchy mail-order ads for machines that supposedly made you smarter just by resting your hand on the back cover
    26AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:44
    In that case you gotta use the paper to nudge the poop along
    27AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:45
    I always wondered what the heck 'Bigger Pants' were lol
    28AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:51
    Vending machines where you couldn't see the goods in daytime, but they became visible once night fell
    30AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:54
    Canned drinks up through the early Heisei era had the pull-tab type you'd rip off and throw away
    31AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:54
    Speaking of vending machines, there were ones with bottled Coke and Fanta
    I used to go digging through them hunting for Supercar or Star Wars bottle caps
    33AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:59
    I wish they'd go back to selling bottled Coke like they used to
    34AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:00
    Whenever a train was delayed, a line would form at the payphone
    38AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:10
    It was a triple feature — The Castle of Cagliostro, Go For It, Tabuchi-kun!, and Mr. Boo: Gambling Champion
    43AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:23
    The bell rings in your room
    I'd count to eight rings, then hang up
    44AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:27
    Re: #43
    When I called the telephone dating service, it wouldn't connect at all on the first day
    45AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:27
    I was playing alone with a ball at the park when some old man just started teaching me soccer, totally uninvited
    When I got home and told my mom about it, she wasn't even worried — just said 'Oh, is that so.' That's the kind of era it was
    47AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:31
    Guess that just means people weren't as overprotective back then as they are now
    48AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:36
    Pull-tabs were literally embedded in the asphalt
    50AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:51
    Kōno dropped fly balls over and over and got benched for it (a reference to an infamous run of fielding errors by the player)
    52AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:32
    Feels like all kinds of shops had pets back then
    even my dad's company kept a dog
    53AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:43
    The biggest difference is cell phones
    those changed everything, letting people move around so much more freely
    54AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:44
    I get the impression there were a lot of kidnapping cases back in the Showa era

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    In the late Showa era (1970s-80s), corporal punishment was technically banned under the School Education Act, yet on the ground it was routinely tolerated — kendo club advisors and driving-school instructors regularly struck students. Canned-drink pull-tabs were also still the detachable kind up through the early Heisei era, and vending machines selling bottled drinks were something kids would rummage through in hopes of collecting bottle caps. The thread is driven mainly by shared nostalgia, with memories of corporal punishment and school violence recounted through the era’s own values — “it’s your own fault if you got hit” — and it’s the gap between that mindset and modern sensibilities that makes the thread worth reading. Worth noting: how common payphones and telephone cards actually were varied by region and generation, so the experiences shared in this thread shouldn’t be taken as the standard for the entire Showa era.

    ※This article is compiled as excerpts and a summary from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Random Happenings and Memories of the Showa Era.”

  • Is ‘Men Hunt, Women Gather’ Actually True? 5ch Users: ‘Surprised How Often Men Hunted Solo’

    A paper published in 2023 in the academic journal PLOS ONE by researchers including those from Seattle Pacific University examined hunter-gatherer societies around the world using records spanning the past 100 years, finding that women participated in hunting in roughly 80% of them. Among the Agta people of the Philippines and the Aka people of Central Africa, women reportedly used a variety of tools — bows and arrows, clubs, crossbows — and some even went out hunting while carrying infants. The findings challenge the conventional image of ‘men hunt, women gather,’ and on 5ch, comments explaining the division of labor by differences in physique and muscle strength clashed with others citing examples like lionesses, with the debate never reaching a consensus.

    (Omitted)

    A 2023 paper published in the academic journal PLOS ONE by researchers affiliated with Seattle Pacific University and others, titled “The Myth of Man the Hunter: Women’s contribution to the hunt across ethnographic contexts,” investigated the actual extent of women’s hunting activity in hunter-gatherer societies worldwide.

    The gendered division of labor in human hunter-gatherer life has generally been understood as men serving as hunters and women as gatherers.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    9AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:33
    Men mainly hunted,
    while women mainly did housework and childcare in the cave, with hunting just a supporting role, right?
    I mean, physique and muscle strength are different after all
    12AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:36
    Re: #9
    >Women's hunting wasn't just a matter of incidentally catching small animals while gathering plants — in many societies, women deliberately set out to hunt specific prey from the start. Records show they actively took down not just small animals but medium and large ones too.

    >Among the Philippines' Agta people, men consistently used bows and arrows, while women used knives and bows and arrows alone or in combination, according to individual preference. Similarly, women of the Aka people in Central Africa made use of a variety of tools including nets, spears, machetes, and crossbows.
    148AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:37
    Re: #9
    Back then,
    life was just so unstable that women had to hunt too or they couldn't survive… that's all this is, lol
    19AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:39
    Easy work, just generalizing from exceptions
    22AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:40
    Re: #19
    The article's whole point is that it wasn't an exception
    31AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:44
    Men are better at 'spatial awareness' in places like forests, while women are better at distinguishing color differences in things gathered from fields, mountains, and beaches
    42AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:55
    Re: #31
    If men hunted and women gathered, that would make sense, but
    if there wasn't really a difference in roles, then what explains the difference in abilities?
    45AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:59
    By the way, the whole 'Westerners are a hunting people, Japanese are an agricultural people' framing has also been debunked these days
    47AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:00
    Re: #45
    I don't think anyone but the postwar generation even says that anymore
    I was taught that the Japanese were a hunter-gatherer people
    61AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:05
    Re: #1
    Just look at most other land mammals and it's obvious, right?
    It's the females, not the males, who get food and raise the young
    The idea that males hunted and provided for the family is probably just a fantasy based on values from the medieval era onward
    72AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:10
    But women have less muscle mass than men, and less endurance too
    So does that mean they were subjugated by men and had it rough?
    81AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:12
    Re: #72
    In most land mammals, males are stronger than females because males fight each other
    But it's mostly the females who bring back food
    Males just loaf around except when fighting other males
    109AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:22
    If women had been fighting since ancient times, wouldn't it be weird for there to be this much of a physical ability gap
    Like with carnivores, you'd expect both sexes to end up strong
    120AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:25
    Re: #109
    I heard that's because it's still in the middle of evolving
    Apes in general have bigger males
    and this is a holdover from that
    162AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:44
    With lions, the females hunt and the males just loaf around
    177AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:48
    Re: #162
    Guarding the territory is the male's job — hunting is done by lower-ranking members
    By the way, males other than the boss do hunt normally too
    It's the boss male who fights when some other lion or animal invades the territory
    183AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:49
    Re: #162
    When an outside male shows up targeting his harem, he'll go fight even if he can't win
    That's the male's role
    180AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:48
    Male lions —
    if you think about what makes a male 'strong' when he doesn't hunt,
    for humans, it's probably still being tall and good-looking
    190AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:51
    Re: #180
    What does 'hunting' even represent for humans
    Probably making money, I'd guess
    203AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:58
    Re: #180
    The idea that there's only one male lion per pride is also an old stereotype — prides have multiple males, and they do hunt big game that females can't take down due to body size
    Though I guess there are also males who just mooch off females who are good at hunting
    192AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:53
    In the first place, didn't women back then get pregnant every year
    Between that and childcare, gathering and preparing meals for the settlement would've been all they could handle
    196AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:56
    Re: #192
    I've heard that in prehistoric times, working 4 hours a day was considered a lot
    They ate hard-to-digest food, so they'd spend around 20 hours just lying around digesting it
    You can tell from watching other animals hunt too — I think the sense of time back then was totally different from now
    199AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:57
    Re: #192
    Looking at family trees from the Meiji era, families generally had around 6 or 7 kids (including those who died young)
    This was a farming family, by the way
    If they kept giving birth every single year, they wouldn't be able to work and there wouldn't be enough food, so there was probably some kind of culture of spacing it out
    Women were a major part of the labor force in farm work, after all
    202AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:58
    Honestly, I was more surprised by the part about men hunting solo a lot
    I always pictured hunting as a group thing, with the whole village together
    205AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:59
    Re: #202
    When the prey is small, it doesn't pay off to go in a group

    Background and Points of Debate

    The research comes from a paper titled “The Myth of Man the Hunter,” published in 2023 in the academic journal PLOS ONE, which surveyed hunter-gatherer societies around the world using records spanning the past 100 years. Cases have been reported — among the Agta people of the Philippines and the Aka people of Central Africa, for instance — of women participating in hunts using a range of tools including bows and arrows, clubs, and crossbows. Opinions in the thread split over whether to view these findings as “just generalizing from exceptions” or as evidence that “it was never actually an exception to begin with.” Comments explaining the division of labor by physical differences between men and women ran alongside comments citing examples from other animals, such as lions, to argue that “it’s not unusual for the hunting to be done by females.” It was also noted that, in the case of lions, males are responsible for defending territory and mates, with some pointing out that this makes simple comparisons tricky.

    *This article is composed as an excerpt and summary from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “How True Is ‘Men Hunt, Women Gather,’ Really? Women Hunted Too in About 80% of Societies, Even While Carrying Infants — A 100-Year Survey of Hunter-Gatherer Societies.”

  • Tomisawa Takeshi Hit by Credit Card Fraud, Fumes Over Call Center’s Response

    Sandwichman’s Takeshi Tomisawa (52) spoke on the October 10 broadcast of Nippon Broadcasting’s “Sandwichman the Radio Show Saturday” about receiving a notification email alerting him to unauthorized use of his credit card. He said he was stunned by the notice of an overseas purchase he didn’t recognize, and revealed he was unsatisfied with how the call center handled his follow-up inquiry. Reactions on 5ch split between those questioning the card company’s response and those who felt Tomisawa’s own explanation was too vague for the rep to have handled easily. The realities of call center work, and the term “ope-hara” (operator harassment) — the flip side of “kasu-hara” (customer harassment, i.e. unreasonable demands from customers) — also became a talking point.

    10/10 (Sat) 15:48

    Sandwichman’s Takeshi Tomisawa (52) appeared on October 10 on Nippon Broadcasting’s “Sandwichman the Radio Show Saturday” (Saturdays, 1pm), which he hosts, and revealed that he had been the victim of credit card fraud.

    Bringing up the recent string of corporate data breaches leaking personal information, Tomisawa said: “Last night I was playing a game when an email came in telling me my card had been used — from the card company. It said, ‘This was just used for an overseas purchase.’” He received the email despite not recognizing the charge. “No way, I’m right here, at home. Apparently even if you buy something in Japan, sometimes it shows up as an ‘overseas purchase’ if the payment processing runs through a foreign company. But I looked at the amount and thought, I don’t remember buying anything like this.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    2AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:02
    Wait, I can't quite tell what he's saying
    4AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:02
    Just say "Wait, I can't quite tell what you're saying" already (the duo's famous catchphrase)
    9AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:05
    Did he recover from his illness?
    18AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:16
    Re: #9
    The one who looks like Date is actually Tomisawa
    11AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:10
    Which company was it? Did he get a landmine rep at the call center? What's the opposite of "kasu-hara" (customer harassment) even called?
    123AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:11
    Re: #11
    It's "ope-hara" (operator harassment). It's funny because bringing up that word shuts people up instantly. Just say "I'm a victim of ope-hara — wasting my time and causing me damage!" and you're golden
    15AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:14
    I wonder if credit card companies staff their call centers with part-timers too
    23AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:20
    Re: #15
    That's not really a job for full-time employees, is it
    107AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:03
    Re: #15
    Lol, I called a PC maker's call center once and got a foreign rep. Guess that's unavoidable since it's a foreign-made PC though lol
    24AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:22
    Isn't this a data leak? I never even authorized this one either —
    I got an email from Sumitomo Mitsui basically asking "want us to suspend the card and reissue it?"
    Turns out some Brazilian airline had charged me about 40,000 yen without permission
    71AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:48
    Re: #24
    In a case like that, can you ever find out where the card info leaked from?
    And is there any kind of compensation?
    36AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:30
    That credit card company sounds off.
    Normally if something like that happens they freeze it immediately and go through your recent history with you together
    44AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:35
    Re: #36
    Getting an email means you're using online banking, so
    you could just freeze it yourself from the website.
    Why call? …Hmm
    136AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:15
    Re: #36
    Normally that's how it'd go, but there are weird ones out there who are either incompetent or deliberately phoning it in
    48AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:35
    It'd be hilarious if the "call center" was actually a fake call center routed overseas and he got hit with like 100,000 yen in phone charges
    51AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:37
    Re: #48
    Right?
    Maybe he called the number written in that email
    54AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:40
    "I don't recall using this…"

    Is it that he just forgot, or something else?
    Who knows.
    A lot of the time you can't tell just from looking at the billing name either

    Customers aren't gods,
    and call center staff aren't gods or psychics either

    Way too many idiots out there think everything should just be intuited for them
    64AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:44
    Re: #54
    Normally at that point they'd consider that it might be fraud and go:
    "We'll look into this charge for you. If it turns out to be unauthorized, we'll need to suspend your card — is that all right?"
    That's how I'd expect it to go
    72AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:49
    Re: #64
    So he should've just said that, right?
    Whether it might have been used fraudulently

    There are plenty of charges people just forget about,
    plenty of charges you can't identify just by looking at the merchant name,
    and plenty that come from overseas too
    94AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:58
    Re: #64
    There are so many possible scenarios in a case like this, so first they interview you to narrow it down
    Then once they've grasped the situation, they decide how to respond
    If Re: #1's call really was to a credit card company's call center, the operator probably had a flowchart in their head
    If the answer to this question is yes, go this route; if no, go that route — that's how they narrow it down
    105AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:02
    Credit card fraud, huh…
    now I'm getting fired up
    115AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:06
    Re: #105
    No doubt about it
    116AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:07
    Re: #107
    That's Dell, lol
    121AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:10
    Re: #116
    Oh, Dell does that too huh

    Mine was ASUS, but I got told
    "Zere, pressu zee powah buttan, eet shoddu respond" (in broken Japanese)
    and I just burst out laughing
    120AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:09
    Doesn't he have 3D Secure set up?
    140AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:17
    Re: #120
    Even if your card has 3D Secure, some merchants just don't support it lol
    124AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:11
    Well, call centers really are a mixed bag — big gap between the reps who handle things well and the ones who just amplify your anger
    The good ones briskly deflect your complaints and sarcasm
    so smoothly you end up with nothing left to complain about
    They're great with pacing and timing too
    The bad ones just go "uh-huh, uh-huh" on the other end of the line
    with that "yeah whatever, got it" kind of attitude and timing
    138AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:16
    An advanced technique for redirecting anger from the company onto the operator
    141AnonymousOct 11, 2026 01:17
    Re: #138
    That's exactly what they're paid to do

    Background and key points of this topic

    Credit card fraud has been rising year after year, and card companies have systems in place to automatically suspend a card temporarily when suspicious usage is detected, then contact the holder to verify their identity. What split opinion in the thread was whether Tomisawa’s own explanation was too vague — causing the response to lag — versus the view that the operator should have proactively presented the suspicious usage pattern for confirmation first. Many posts touched on the realities of call center work — “is it full-time staff or part-timers,” “isn’t this just flowchart-based triage” — with posters who had hands-on experience in the field offering both defenses and explanations. Meanwhile, it’s worth noting that “ope-hara” (operator harassment), used as the flip side of “kasu-hara,” is a coined term for unreasonable demands or venting directed at operators by customers, and it has not yet become a widely established term. One thing readers could easily get wrong: Tomisawa’s comments are strictly his own account from the radio show, and he himself never disclosed the card company’s name or any details about the operator.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Geisupo Sokuhou+) thread “Takeshi Tomisawa hit by credit card fraud → fumes at call center’s response: “What’s with that attitude!”“

  • Teacher Never Wrote a Thesis — 5ch Users Fire Back, “What Idiot University Was That?”

    A thread titled “I’m a high school teacher, ask me anything” popped up on Niyusoku VIP, with a current teacher fielding questions as far as they felt comfortable answering. Under Japan’s teaching license system, a single science license covers physics, chemistry, biology, and earth science together, so in years when staff are short, one teacher can end up handling all four subjects solo. Meanwhile, the claim “I got my teaching license without writing a graduation thesis” drew skepticism — “what idiot school was that?” — and sparked a back-and-forth after others pointed out that some science departments at elite former Imperial Universities don’t require a thesis at all. The thread also touched on a colleague who resigned over a sex crime, and the teacher’s plans to stay at the school until retirement.

    1AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:09
    As far as I can answer
    16AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:16
    Re: #14
    Do science teachers really handle physics, chemistry, biology, AND earth science — all of it?
    It's been so long I forget.
    19AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:17
    Re: #16
    License-wise, it's possible.
    In years when we're short-staffed, that actually happens.
    18AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:17
    What did you write your thesis on?
    20AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:18
    Re: #18
    I didn't have a thesis.
    22AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:20
    Re: #20
    What idiot university lets you get a teaching license with no thesis?
    24AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:24
    Re: #22
    I think the base requirement for a Type 1 license is just graduating from a 4-year degree program.
    A graduation thesis wasn't actually part of the requirement, I believe.
    It's been a while though, so some of this might be off.
    44AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:33
    Re: #22
    At science departments in the old Imperial Universities, having no thesis is pretty common.
    29AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:26
    Are you staying at that school forever?
    30AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:26
    What's your favorite eroge (adult game)?
    37AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:29
    Re: #29
    As long as I don't cause a scandal, I plan to stay until retirement.
    At public schools, teachers get transferred around a lot, so even alumni don't feel much "alma mater" attachment.
    Re: #30
    Sorry,
    never played one.
    39AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:29
    Re: #37
    Try "Suki Suki Daisuki" (a visual novel series) — it's got a great sense of unreality to it.
    33AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:27
    Are there any cute boys?
    36AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:28
    Why don't you check the boys' crotches?
    43AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:32
    Re: #33
    There are.
    Obviously there's a whole range of looks.
    Some kids have surprisingly sharp features.

    Re: #34
    I'll just say it was an "F-rank" school (bottom-tier university).

    Re: #36
    Whenever I'm interacting with students, including in class, I've got a clear purpose in mind, so I don't really have spare attention for noticing other things.
    Someone sharper than me could probably multitask and notice stuff even while zoning out.
    38AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:29
    Give us the details on your raunchy experiences.
    40AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:31
    I graduated from a high school with a hensachi (academic ranking score) of 38 — what do you think of that?
    46AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:36
    Re: #38
    Seriously, truly none at all.
    Just having a job that puts me in frequent contact with the opposite sex during their formative years already carries a lot of risk.
    I'm pretty careful about that.

    Re: #39
    This job really wears your mental health down, so hobbies matter.
    I'll give it a try if I get the chance.

    Re: #40
    My read is that ranking people by hensachi score will be done with in about ten more years.
    I wouldn't worry about it.
    42AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:32
    Have you gotten chocolate from students on Valentine's Day?
    45AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:34
    Have you ever attended a student's funeral?
    48AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:37
    Re: #42
    I get quite a bit, actually.

    Re: #45
    Thankfully, not yet.
    Though I might go through one before I retire.
    49AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:38
    What do you think of teachers who view students sexually?
    51AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:41
    Re: #49
    Hard to put into words, but it's a revulsion close to how I'd feel about incest.
    55AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:47
    Re: #44
    Are you out of your mind?
    Just name the university's science department where that supposedly happens.
    57AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:51
    Re: #55
    At places where 80-90% of students go on to grad school, spending time on an undergrad thesis is pointless anyway.
    62AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:02
    Re: #57
    Are you maybe someone who never actually went to university?
    63AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:04
    Re: #62
    I've heard the same "no thesis" story from people who went to other universities too.
    66AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:06
    Re: #63
    But you get that Re: #57 is being ridiculous, right?
    59AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:53
    Has anything big ever happened — like a student getting arrested, or a suspicious person getting onto campus?
    60AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:55
    Re: #59
    A colleague resigning over a sex crime is the biggest thing that's happened recently.
    I don't know what became of them after that.
    105AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:28
    Re: #101
    I'll just say upper-middle tier.

    Re: #103
    With basic science, aren't you only really qualified once you've finished a doctorate?
    Someone like me who stopped at a bachelor's degree really can't speak to the specialized stuff.
    107AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:30
    Re: #105
    This year's theory was simple enough that even I, a non-physics person, understood it easily — so what exactly don't you get about it?
    110AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:37
    Re: #107
    To begin with, my interest was in condensed matter physics, so honestly I don't even really know what a neutrino is.

    That's the level I'm at.
    Sorry about that.

    Re: #109
    Exactly right.
    That's how teachers end up mistakenly thinking they can judge people by their own yardstick, and turn into that stereotypical "teacher-ish" teacher.
    I'm not a fan of that type.

    I teach what's needed for my own class, and if it's outside that, I send the student to whoever teaches that subject.
    I'd rather not get tangled up in weird territorial stuff.
    111AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:43
    Re: #110
    That's a pretty philosophical, cool way to put it, teacher.
    I'll have to sneak into one of your classes sometime.
    112AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:45
    Re: #110
    You don't even know qualitatively what a neutrino is?
    Is that a joke?
    121AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:02
    Re: #113
    What are you talking about, even high school covers stuff like E=mc^2 and the double-slit experiment.
    124AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:05
    Re: #121
    That's just scratching the surface, though.
    You can only really say you've understood that equation once you can derive it from first principles.
    High school only touches the edges of "old quantum theory," and that doesn't mean you've understood quantum theory.
    125AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:06
    Re: #124
    But you don't even know it at that level, do you?
    127AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:07
    Re: #125
    Where does the motivation to pursue it that far even come from?
    128AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:08
    Re: #125
    "New quantum theory" is of course covered at the undergrad level.
    Neutrinos are probably even further beyond that, I'd guess.

    Background and Talking Points

    Japan’s teaching license (the “regular license”) is granted under the Education Personnel Certification Act once a student completes the designated courses and credits at university — whether or not a graduation thesis is required isn’t actually a condition of the licensing law itself, but is left up to each university and department’s own graduation requirements. It’s also true that some science departments at the old Imperial Universities don’t require a thesis at all, so the thread’s dispute over whether “no thesis” could really be true seems to stem from conflating the licensing system with individual universities’ graduation requirements. Likewise, since the science teaching license is granted as a single blanket “science” qualification rather than by individual subject, it’s also correct that one teacher can be responsible for physics, chemistry, biology, and earth science alone. Meanwhile, the comments about a colleague resigning over a sex crime and about the teacher’s sense of distance from students were kept to general statements without any information that could identify a victim, and this article has likewise been written to stay within that scope.

    ※This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Niyusoku VIP) thread “I’m a high school teacher, ask me anything.”

  • Giants on the Brink After 4th Straight CS Loss to DeNA, Fan Frustration Boils Over Foreign Batter

    The Yomiuri Giants are currently on the brink, having lost to the DeNA BayStars in the Climax Series First Stage. In the 9th inning, reliever Martinez surrendered a go-ahead home run to Doai, and gutsy performances from Oshiro and Inoue weren’t enough to save the game. On 5ch’s Giants thread, fans reacted to this season’s struggles with a flood of proposals for offseason roster cuts and trades, with opinions especially divided over the future of slumping foreign batter Dalbeck and criticism of him chewing gum during a memorial-game ceremony.

    1AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:39
    Previous thread
    Giants Acting Manager 170
    2AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:39
    2026-2027
    Outgoing
    Released: #37 Kori, #38 Okada, #64 Yamada
    Free agent (unconditional release): #12 Hagio, #54 Matsuura
    Active Player Draft (sent away):
    Traded away:
    Retired:

    Sent down to development roster:


    Incoming
    Drafted (NPB Draft):
    Active Player Draft (received):
    Traded for:
    Other:

    Promoted from development roster:

    2026 active roster registrations: 70
    2027 active roster registrations: 65

    Open uniform numbers
    7 12 18 37 38 54 55 64 83
    3AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:40
    [Giants] On the Brink of the CS Final — 4th Straight CS Loss to DeNA… Martinez Serves Up a Heartbreaking Go-Ahead Homer to Doai in the 9th; With One Out and a Runner on Third in the 9th, Dalbeck and Oshiro Come Up Empty Despite Inoue's Gutsy 8 Innings, 10 Ks, 1 Run
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/9191f5d8b256eafa74c9dcac1874ddbceae207d7

    [DeNA] Rallies Late to Win CS Opener! On the Verge of Clinching Stage 1 for the 3rd Straight Year — Doai's Priceless Go-Ahead Homer Off Martinez in the 9th, Azuma Allows Just 1 Run Over 7, Maki's Go-Ahead Hit
    https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/3f46541ca4df32bce7a5d99dd85c31ceb97b49da
    4AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:50
    There's no room to cut Dalbeck
    He's obviously staying
    5AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:50
    Is 'P-n-d' gonna be manager next year? (garbled/censored nickname, unclear who's meant)
    Guess he's getting executed at MAZDA Stadium again
    7AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:51
    Tokoda will probably have a comfortable time at Orix, Sakakura at Lotte. Morishita could still do plenty in the Pacific League too — if he goes to MLB, depending on the contract he could be done fast, and he'd only be able to land somewhere like Chunichi anyway, so nothing would really change from now
    11AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:53
    If our front office had any sense, they'd already have signed a foreign hitter better than Dalbeck by now
    12AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:53
    Seriously, if we gave up Taisei, Kishida, and Kadowaki, I wonder what the Tigers would give us back (珍 = derogatory 5ch nickname for the Hanshin Tigers)
    13AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:54
    Honestly, don't need Dalbeck
    Don't want to see him at all anymore
    15AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:54
    Abe (manager): "Hello? This is Abe. Boss, can we get Yamakawa?"
    26AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:03
    Re: #15
    If he were still active, he'd probably actually say that
    20AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:59
    Dalbeck's got 81 RBIs, you know
    And even bouncing between 1B and 3B defensively, he handles it fine
    The only issue is he always looks so sad, like living in Japan is rough on him
    21AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:59
    Well, his image is worse than his stats suggest
    Might be because his predecessor was Okamoto, though
    24AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:01
    You guys might not like this, but Kim Do-yeon, who played for Team Korea in the 2026 WBC
    If we could actually sign him, I'd recommend it
    45AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:31
    Re: #24
    He'd probably get poached by MLB in two years though
    25AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:02
    Today's pitching scapegoat is obvious, but on offense the one to blame is clearly Dalbeck
    If you're gonna say we don't need Raidel (Martinez), we need Dalbeck even less
    A guy who can't hit in a game like this is useless
    27AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:03
    Yamakawa could seriously get traded lol
    28AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:04
    We'll give you Richard, you give us Yamakawa
    Our team needs a 'ketsu-ana' and a 'gashiman' (crude, obscure 5ch slang — exact meaning unclear even to native readers)
    29AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:06
    Yeah, foreign batters should be righties
    Lefties are way too much of a gamble (lit. 'gacha', like a slot-machine draw)
    30AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:06
    If we're getting Yamakawa, I want us to grab Kozono too
    Lol
    31AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:07
    There's just nobody who can replace Dalbeck
    32AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:08
    Maybe we should pick up Bright too…
    33AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:09
    NHK's 9 o'clock news ran a segment on 'oshikatsu' (fan-support culture), and the Hiroshima Carp came up in it — was that on purpose?
    34AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:09
    Chewing gum during the ceremony is just plain weird
    35AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:09
    Wasn't Yamakawa traded to SoftBank or something?
    36AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:09
    We also need Hazuki's defense, speed, and upbeat personality!
    37AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:10
    Losing a memorial game without even touching third base is pretty messed up too
    43AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:26
    Not trying to trash the guy, but taking ¥1.2 billion and then saying 'I'm not the Iron Man'… that's not it
    Just carry yourself with some pride
    And close out the game
    44AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:27
    Who cares about some gum
    What do you even expect from a pro ballplayer
    Well, 'Tsunidora' (player nickname) can't give his fans what they want anyway, so I guess it is what it is
    46AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:34
    If you're gonna pay ¥1.2 billion, you'd be better off giving that to Yoshida
    47AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:35
    ¥1.2 billion for a closer is terrible value
    77AnonymousOct 11, 2026 00:09
    Takemaru vs DeNA lineup (career)

    Ishida vs Giants lineup (career)

    Background and Key Points of Debate

    The Climax Series (CS) is NPB’s postseason format in which the top three regular-season finishers compete, and because the host team in the First Stage holds a one-win advantage in this short series, a single loss carries heavy weight. Thread opinion split over how to handle slumping foreign batter Dalbeck, with some praising his ability to handle defense competently and others criticizing his inability to deliver hits in clutch moments. There was also criticism of him chewing gum during a memorial-game ceremony, though the posts don’t address his actual intent or any explanation from the team, so this remains speculation. Talk also turned to offseason roster cuts and active-roster registration numbers, but these are routine procedures every team goes through annually, and there’s no guarantee the individual predictions floated in the thread will actually happen.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Giants Acting Manager 171.”

  • NMB48’s Makoto Sakashita Wins Akasaka Marathon — 5ch: ‘That’s What You Call an Idol’

    On the TBS broadcast of “All-Star Thanksgiving Festival ’26 Autumn: 70th Broadcast Anniversary Special” on October 10, the show’s regular segment, the “Akasaka 5-chome Mini Marathon,” was held, and NMB48’s Makoto Sakashita took the win. Her victory reportedly marks the first time in 25 years that a female participant has won.

    On the thread, posters expressed surprise that she ran the whole course without ever looking like she was struggling, with some speculating she must have marathon experience given she was wearing Adidas racing shoes. Others pointed out that Sakashita had actually been the top female finisher two events ago as well, while some gave a play-by-play of how Ito, who closed the gap near the end, stumbled and missed out on second place. The discussion also touched on how well the handicap system was set and how much it added to the show’s excitement.

    “All-Star Thanksgiving Festival”: NMB48’s Makoto Sakashita wins Akasaka Marathon — first female winner in 25 years

    TBS aired “All-Star Thanksgiving Festival ’26 Autumn: 70th Broadcast Anniversary Special” live starting at 5:40 PM on October 10. NMB48’s Makoto Sakashita won the signature segment, the “Akasaka 5-chome Mini Marathon.”

    ◆ “All-Star Thanksgiving Festival” Akasaka Marathon: winner is Makoto Sakashita

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    12AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:42
    I haven't kept up with NMB48 (the "48" idol group based in Namba, Osaka) since Saya-nee and Mirukii.
    54AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:58
    Re: #12
    Wasn't the person in the "I'm going this way" photo from NMB?
    Also Shibuya.
    13AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:42
    Cute 🩷 I think I'm falling for her.
    14AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:43
    She's cute.
    NMB — isn't that the group Sayaka Yamamoto used to be in?
    17AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:43
    She started 8 minutes 40 seconds behind and won by 8 seconds — nice handicap.
    31AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:47
    Re: #17
    That's true for Sato, but…
    what about the handicap against the other runners…
    22AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:45
    Running the whole way without ever making a pained face, staying cute the entire time — that's what you call an idol.
    26AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:45
    She was really fast — does she have marathon experience?
    40AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:53
    Re: #26
    I think she ran the Osaka Marathon in around 4 hours 10 minutes.
    I remember because that's about my time too.
    27AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:46
    If it's on TVer (Japan's catch-up streaming service), I might check it out.
    29AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:46
    The handicaps were perfectly set this year, made it fun to watch.
    Sakashita really gave it her all too.
    30AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:47
    She's got that TBS female-announcer kind of face.
    33AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:47
    Impressive that her pace never dropped, right to the end.
    34AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:48
    They never get tired of running this segment lol
    35AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:48
    Her face is cute, but she hasn't really broken through yet.
    Will this be what finally gets her noticed?
    36AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:49
    Didn't realize NMB was still around.
    88AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:09
    Re: #1
    Re: #36
    These days Kion Shiozuki is about the only one in NMB whose face and name I can even place…
    41AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:53
    Huh, didn't know there was such a cute girl in the group.
    Also, she's wearing Adidas racing shoes, so she's probably not a total beginner.
    42AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:54
    Apparently Wakako cried because there were so many participants this time.
    60AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:59
    Re: #42
    If you're a celebrity, you probably want to run that hill at least once, and this time there really were a lot of participants lol
    If I got offered a slot on the 24-hour or 27-hour charity TV show, I'd want to do it too, but without some kind of hardship story you'd never get picked for the 24-hour one lol
    45AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:55
    The AKB girl probably thought she had the celebrity top spot locked up.
    56AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:59
    Re: #45
    No, Sakashita was already the top woman two events ago, so Ito must have known that going in.
    48AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:56
    Who was the female winner 25 years ago?
    Lidia Șimon?
    49AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:56
    The camera work was incredible.
    Genuinely moved me.
    51AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:56
    The way she turned at the halfway point — you could tell she wasn't just some amateur.
    55AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:58
    Re: #51
    I bet she made some weird promise on a fan site or something.
    After Ito closed the gap, her legs started tangling up on the last three turns and she had to ease off.
    52AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:57
    Ito must be gutted.
    She closed it to 6 seconds on the uphill stretch,
    but pushed her cadence too hard and ended up missing even second place.
    57AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:59
    I didn't watch it so I can't say for sure, but is it really okay for the show when a practically unknown girl wins without reading the room?
    63AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:00
    Re: #57
    Judging by the TVAL numbers (a TV audience-engagement rating), this segment was way out ahead of everything else — so yeah, it was fine.
    64AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:00
    Re: #57
    She's delivered results before and has been appearing in this every year since, so the staff surely saw this coming.
    69AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:02
    Re: #57
    As for Sano from OWV, who's won this before — unless you already know how many idols are named Sano among the younger idol crowd, you probably wouldn't recognize him.
    65AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:01
    SASUKE (the obstacle-course show) has turned into a promo spot for female idols too, so it feels like we'll see more female idols seriously training for this marathon as well.
    75AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:04
    Re: #65
    People who become idols are probably athletic to begin with, but even people with no athletic ability can go at their own pace, so I bet quite a few of them genuinely like marathon running.
    86AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:09
    Re: #65
    Glad we're finally getting idols who can actually clear the "Sorisou Kabe" (SASUKE's famous curved wall obstacle).
    72AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:03
    Re: #69
    Sano Yuto → M!LK
    Sano Akiya → Aぇ! group
    Sano Reo → GENERATIONS
    Sano Yudai → INI
    Sano Fumiya → OWV
    Sano Akinori → MAZZEL
    Sano Shiro → Fuyuhiko-san (his famous TV drama character)
    76AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:05
    Re: #72
    Sano Asao → Mito Komon
    84AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:07
    A marathon boom among idols… guess Morning Musume's movie "Pinch Runner" was just ahead of its time.
    90AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:12
    Re: #84
    If it's actual running, it does seem like something that could catch on among idols — great for raising your profile, and it'd probably mean more appearances at local citizen marathons too. But turning it into a drama or movie would probably just flop lol
    This is exactly the kind of thing that needs to stay real.
    87AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:09
    Who was it 25 years ago?
    91AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:12
    Re: #87
    Marathon runner Mari Tanigawa.

    Background and key points of this topic

    The “Akasaka 5-chome Mini Marathon” is a signature segment of the All-Star Thanksgiving Festival, where contestants start with handicaps based on past records and race out and back along Akasaka’s hilly streets to compete on time gaps. This time, the headline point was that it marked “the first female winner in 25 years,” but on the thread, multiple theories circulated about who that female winner was 25 years ago — including “Mari Tanigawa” and “Lidia Șimon” — without a definitive answer confirmed in the article itself. Several posters speculated she must have marathon experience, pointing to her Adidas racing shoes and her turnaround form, though there’s no direct quote from her confirming this. It was also pointed out that Sakashita had already been the top female finisher two events prior, suggesting this wasn’t a one-off but part of a continuing streak. Some comments lamented NMB48’s declining media exposure in recent years, reflecting the group’s generational turnover and shifting visibility.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisou Sokuho+) thread “[Entertainment] TBS “All-Star Thanksgiving Festival Marathon” — NMB48’s Makoto Sakashita wins! First female winner in 25 years.”