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  • Rii Matsunaga: “Back When Juice=Juice Wasn’t Popular, We Could Barely Fill Past the Balcony’s First Row”

    Hello! Project’s Juice=Juice held the Osaka stop of their 5ROOMS tour on October 10, 2026. During the MC segment, Rii Matsunaga quoted King Gnu’s Daiki Tsuneta, who once said “music that sells isn’t the only good music,” and reflected: “Back when Juice=Juice wasn’t popular with the general public, even at NHK Osaka we could barely fill past the first row of the balcony. But looking back now, we were putting on great shows.” The comment was picked up on 5ch’s Hello! Project board, where reactions differed over how people remember the actual turnout from back then, and over how to talk positively about the group’s past slump.

    1AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:05
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    5ROOMS Osaka Night, excerpt from Rii's MC: "I hold onto the words 'music that sells isn't the only good music' (said by King Gnu's Daiki Tsuneta). Generally speaking, back when Juice=Juice wasn't popular, even NHK Osaka was barely filled past the first row of the balcony. But looking back now, we were putting on great shows even then."
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    9AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:07
    What's she even trying to say here lol
    Just savoring the joy of finally being popular?
    10AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:08
    Re: #9
    She's looking down on Angerme
    11AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:08
    So basically she's saying things were better before than they are now
    16AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:09
    She doesn't get how a buzz actually works
    New fans vanish again once some time passes
    34AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:14
    Re: #16
    Exactly this
    At the end of the day they're just scrubs below Angerme
    18AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:10
    When exactly was it just one row filled on the 2nd floor at NHK Osaka?
    I haven't seen it that empty since things reopened after COVID
    19AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:10
    They clearly leveled up starting from TRIANGROOOVE2
    I think getting popular was inevitable at that point
    20AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:10
    So basically what she's saying is

    "Angerme isn't popular, but they put on good shows"?
    22AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:12
    Of course you'd get sick of it if you're stuck singing garbage songs like "Kurakura" (a 2022 Juice=Juice single)
    23AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:12
    A dig at Morning Musume's golden age
    31AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:13
    Re: #23
    That's because they didn't get popular through their own strength
    25AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:12
    It reads like consolation along the lines of "other groups aren't popular either, but they still put on good shows"
    27AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:12
    Juice=Juice was at its best back when Matsunaga was the new girl and the original members were still around
    29AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:13
    Rii Matsunaga: "None of the other Hello! Project groups besides Juice=Juice are popular"
    30AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:13
    Even Karin's probably smirking at this one
    32AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:14
    She probably just can't stand the current lineup of Juice=Juice
    33AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:14
    2022 through 2024 or so was rock bottom
    36AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:14
    The only reason they survived without being popular is because Morning Musume was bringing in the money — that's the whole reason they're even here today
    Don't get it twisted
    37AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:15
    Yeah, "Kurakura" really is trash
    At least she's being honest
    39AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:15
    I hope Ise gets to say the same thing herself someday too
    40AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:15
    They were just being kept in the shadow of Morning Musume this whole time
    41AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:16
    I mean, when it comes down to it, it was a group that only worked because of Karin Miyamoto
    42AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:16
    Juice=Juice: the group that saved a Hello! Project on the verge of collapse from relentlessly pushing a Morning Musume that was never going to sell
    43AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:17
    The reason they weren't popular was the original members' fault
    44AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:17
    To sum it up

    Juice=Juice has always been cool
    The world just finally caught up
    46AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:18
    The tours these past two years have really been well-made
    Hello! Project DDs (fans who follow multiple groups) keep coming back for repeat shows
    53AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:19
    Rii's MC today was way too exaggerated
    I've been going to NHK Osaka since before Yumerii joined, and it's never actually been that empty
    Besides, the front row of the 2nd floor's center block is industry/guest seating anyway, so pretty much only Uemu's and Rii's families would've been sitting there
    57AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:20
    Re: #53
    If a member says it, then it must be true
    54AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:19
    Wait, so the Juice=Juice members themselves think the current Juice=Juice is trash…
    55AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:19
    They've been putting on good shows ever since TRIANGROOOVE2
    Anyone who's actually seen them live knows that
    58AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:20
    Isn't this just a group that ended once Karin Miyamoto graduated?
    82AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:26
    Re: #58
    >Isn't this just a group that ended once Karin Miyamoto graduated?

    That might be true for Miyamoto's own fans
    But from the perspective of current Juice=Juice fans, this is the group that started once Miyamoto graduated
    59AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:21
    There's no way the family seating section was ever down to just one row
    78AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:24
    Was rock bottom around when Inaba bailed on the group?
    80AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:25
    Re: #78
    Yeah, it stayed at rock bottom for a while after that

    Background and Points of Discussion

    Juice=Juice is a group Hello! Project formally launched in 2013, and it’s well known among fans that attendance stayed low for a long stretch after their debut. Where the thread split was over how to take Matsunaga’s comment: as in post 53, some fans who were around at the time questioned whether her memory matches what the venue was actually like, arguing that “if you exclude the industry seats, it probably wasn’t that empty.” The claim itself was never fully verified within the thread. There was also a gap in tone over whether to read her comment about the lean years as a veiled jab at the group’s current rise in popularity, or simply as an honest, positive take on the past — with several posts bringing in other groups (like Angerme) for comparison. Centered on her own MC remarks as the primary source, it’s worth noting that these differing interpretations existed.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “Rii Matsunaga: “Back when Juice=Juice wasn’t popular, we could barely fill past the first row of the balcony at NHK Osaka, but looking back, we were putting on great shows”.”

  • First Female Winner in 25 Years at Akasaka Marathon — NMB48’s Sakashita Takes 1st, AKB48’s Ito 3rd

    At the “Akasaka Marathon” held on the 10th, NMB48’s Sakashita took 1st place and AKB48’s Ito came in 3rd. Commenters repeatedly noted that this was reportedly the first female winner in about 25 years, and Sakashita’s feat of holding the lead from start to finish became a hot topic. On the other hand, some wondered whether a handicap system or backing from her talent agency played a role, splitting opinion on how to rate the win. Sakashita has previously placed 3rd in the women’s under-20 division at the Osaka Marathon, and some commenters cited that track record as good enough reason to accept her victory.

    1AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:30
    These guys are amazing
    Apparently the last time a woman won was Tanigawa
    2AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:31
    It bugged me that they stopped doing the reverse-spin turn at the U-turns partway through
    4AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:32
    Apparently it's the first female winner in 25 years
    6AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:34
    Ito's cute but she's got real athletic chops too
    9AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:38
    Sakashita was in first from start to finish, so
    she was basically on screen for the whole 30 minutes
    12AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:40
    Sakashita and Ito were on screen the whole time
    Ito got passed near the end, but they were battling it out from start to finish, so it was great to watch
    13AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:40
    She only won because of the handicap
    17AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:41
    Re: #13
    Well, duh
    Even with the handicap, there hadn't been a female winner in 25 years
    35AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:58
    Re: #13
    2nd place was Sato, only 8 seconds behind — so the other guys just didn't have it
    20AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:43
    Itomomo (Ito's nickname) is amazing
    Guess she really grinds through even a hassle of a job like this
    23AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:44
    Re: #20
    She also ran the brutal "heart-breaking hill" 200m sprint before this one lol
    24AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:45
    Yoshida Himewa is faster
    37AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:58
    Re: #24
    She's fast, but over mini-marathon distance there are doubts about her stamina
    42AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:02
    Re: #24
    Even in a straight 50m dash she loses to the 1st- and 3rd-place finishers here
    25AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:48
    Hello! Project idols can't even enter this race to begin with lol
    27AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:51
    Oh, this was still going on?
    If there's an after-party event I'll check it out
    29AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:54
    Giving it your all in stuff like this really boosts your likability with other talent and staff
    Back in the day Yoshizawa did this and ended up walking at the end, which was pretty lame
    30AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:54
    Itomomo 😻

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HUQwLtRbsAANra8.jpg:orig#.jpg
    32AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:55
    Re: #30
    Seriously cute
    68AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:24
    Re: #30
    Her face looks like Yuhane's eyes but bigger
    36AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:58
    Kazami from Ebichu (idol group) is gonna lose gigs over this
    38AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:59
    Re: #36
    She's not especially athletic to begin with
    43AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:02
    Re: #36
    And they had the same handicap too
    39AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:00
    Itomomo's popularity is gonna jump again after this
    40AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:00
    I respect anyone who's fast at marathons
    It means they've got real grit
    69AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:25
    Re: #40
    Give Tamenaga a little respect too, c'mon
    41AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:01
    Sakashita's been training all along so that's one thing, but Itomomo joined last-minute with zero training and still did great
    44AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:07
    Nonokamaru didn't get a ranking
    Because she went and started tidying up the finish line
    45AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:08
    What about Iwamoto from Bokuao (idol group)?
    47AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:10
    Re: #45
    She's on the faster side, but she's not outstanding in either sprints or long distance
    48AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:11
    Re: #45
    Her name never even came up partway through
    She didn't finish
    52AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:16
    Itomomo 😻

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HUQ_kbSboAARSxr.jpg:4096×4096#.jpg
    53AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:16
    Didn't Sakashita finish the Osaka Marathon before?
    61AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:21
    Re: #53

    Sakashita Makoto

    Osaka Marathon 2025: 4 hours 9 minutes 43 seconds (first full marathon, finished 3rd in the women's under-20 division)

    Way too hardcore about this lol

    Background and Talking Points Behind This Story

    The Akasaka Marathon is a planned event race featuring idols and other talent, and handicaps are commonly set based on each participant’s experience and gender. Note that the thread doesn’t cite a source for the claim that this is “the first female winner in 25 years,” nor does it give details on past female winners, so that figure should be treated as unverified rather than an official record. Some commenters also speculated that the win was helped along by backing from Sakashita’s talent agency, but this is pure speculation with no actual mention of the event’s operational decisions or selection criteria. Sakashita’s history of completing the Osaka Marathon was cited, with her ongoing training held up as the basis for her win, while Ito was praised for a strong result despite doing no training beforehand — and it’s this contrast in preparation between the two that helped fuel the broader debate.

    *This article was compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “[Akasaka Marathon] NMB’s Sakashita Takes 1st! AKB’s Ito Takes 3rd!“

  • Osaka Rejects “Myaku-Myaku Ward” — 5ch: “Uemachi Ward Sounds Kinda Cool”

    Kyodo News reports that “Myaku-Myaku Ward” — a proposed new ward name punning on the Expo mascot “Myaku-Myaku” — has been rejected as part of the Osaka metropolis plan’s ward-naming process. The official ward names are expected to be finalized within the month. On 5ch, the decision sparked debate over whether katakana (the script normally used for foreign loanwords) belongs in Japanese place names at all, along with discussion of other proposed names like “Uemachi Ward.” Some pointed to existing place names like Niseko Town and Minami-Alps City to argue that katakana place names are nothing new, while others countered that they simply couldn’t understand the urge to put katakana into Japanese place names. The thread’s focus ended up centering squarely on the taste behind the naming choices themselves.

    Osaka Rejects “Myaku-Myaku Ward” — Osaka Metropolis Plan Ward Names Headed for Decision Within the Month | NEWSjp – Kyodo News

    Published 2026/10/10 19:22:49

    Updated 2026/10/10 19:39:05

    Source: news.jp / Original article here

    9AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:42
    I don't get people who are so eager to shove katakana into Japanese place names.
    77AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:10
    Re: #9
    Niseko Town
    Minami-Alps City

    Niseko's fine, that one's from Ainu, but
    Minami-Alps, though… really?
    85AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:14
    Re: #9
    The legendary phantom "Minami Central City"…(´・ω・`)
    15AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:44
    "Uemachi Ward" actually sounds kinda cool lol — though Tennoji is the more recognizable name
    26AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:47
    Re: #15
    Using "Shitennoji" instead of plain "Tennoji" would sound cooler if you ask me
    Honestly the Umeda area could just be "Myaku-Myaku Ward" too
    And "Uemachi Ward" has a nice storied feel to it, covering everything from Osaka Castle down to the Uemachi area
    28AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:48
    Since it got rejected, let's just go with "Tunk Tunk Ward" instead
    38AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:52
    Re: #28
    What the heck is that, lol
    40AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:52
    So which ward is going to take in Nishinari and Ikuno?
    53AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:56
    Re: #40
    Geographically, Ikuno would end up falling under Uemachi Ward anyway
    I figure the whole Uemachi Plateau area could just go there
    59AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:00
    Give Osaka "Myaku-Myaku Ward,"
    and give Nara "Sento-ku(n) Ward" (a pun combining "ward" [ku] with Nara's mascot Sento-kun)
    64AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:02
    Re: #59
    Nara's population is too small to even have wards in the first place
    Though "Todaiji Ward" would work fine too, I guess
    65AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:03
    Myaku-Myaku's gone totally played-out now that the Expo's over, huh
    70AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:05
    Re: #65
    Myaku-Myaku's actually still pretty popular even now
    Not sure why, though
    97AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:19
    Yodogawa
    Kita
    Naniwa
    Tennoji

    Now that actually sounds like Osaka
    Though Tennoji could just as well be Abeno
    109AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:22
    Re: #97
    Tennoji is really a station name — place-name-wise it's actually Abeno
    Tennoji Station sits right at the very southern edge of Tennoji Ward anyway
    Plenty of Osaka natives aren't too clear on where Abeno actually is either

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The Osaka metropolis plan is a proposal to abolish Osaka City and reorganize it into multiple special wards — a plan that has already been rejected twice by referendum, in 2015 and 2020. The ward-naming proposal reported here is part of that same framework: “Myaku-Myaku Ward,” a pun on “Myaku-Myaku,” the official mascot of the 2025 Osaka-Kansai Expo, had been floated as a candidate but was ultimately rejected, with official ward names expected to be finalized within the month. What split the thread was the naming approach itself — some voiced discomfort with using katakana in place names, while others pushed back by citing precedents like Niseko Town and Minami-Alps City, arguing it’s “nothing to be surprised about at this point.” Questions were also raised about proposed ward boundaries like “Uemachi Ward,” specifically whether the actual geographic area matches what people picture when they hear the name. This article sticks to reactions to the naming proposals themselves and does not cover the broader political debate over whether the metropolis plan should go forward at all.

    ※This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (News Flash+) thread “Osaka Rejects “Myaku-Myaku Ward” — Osaka Metropolis Plan Ward Names Headed for Decision Within the Month.”

  • Recording Music onto Cassette Tapes: Showa-Era Ingenuity and Tech Talk Trending on 5ch

    A thread kicked off with a confession from someone born in the Showa era: “I used to press play and record at the same time.” That opened the floodgates for memories of recording music onto cassette tapes — stories of holding a microphone up to the TV and asking family members to stay quiet, the specific trick of typing up song titles on a word processor, and technical topics of the era like auto-reverse and quick-reverse mechanisms. The thread also saw users post photos of their homemade cassette jacket collections, revisit the old “Team Sony vs. Team TDK” brand rivalry, and share memories quoting lyrics from a Noriyuki Makihara song — all adding up to a lively mix of nostalgia and technical discussion throughout.

    1AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:56
    LMAO pressing play and record at the same time
    6AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:02
    Everyone held their breath while pointing a mic at the TV to record, right?
    8AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:04
    Re: #6 — dinner's ready!!
    9AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:04
    What's so funny about that
    Want me to show off my cassette tape collection?
    14AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:08
    Re: #9
    Bet it's just some BOØWY best-of you picked yourself
    11AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:06
    I used to make the track list myself on a word processor
    16AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:09
    Re: #11
    Nice try, armchair expert ("air play" — slang for faking experience you don't actually have)
    https://kotodama.air-nifty.com/essay/images/INLETA2_B.JPG
    61AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:40
    Re: #16
    Man, ALPEX accessories and stuff like that bring back memories
    66AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:41
    Re: #16
    Oh yeah, that's a thing lol
    19AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:12
    When auto-reverse came out I thought, "whoa, what an innovation!"
    Except the end of a cassette tape ends in a protective leader section,
    so if your recording crossed over from one side to the other, the sound just cut off
    42AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:28
    Re: #19
    That's where quick-reverse came in — it could flip right at the boundary with the leader tape
    22AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:15
    Auto-reverse really was amazing
    Though apparently the parts for it don't exist anymore, so it's basically lost technology now
    39AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:27
    Re: #22
    With 46-minute tapes and the like, it'd be a pain without reverse
    30AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:19
    Dug these out
    Got way more than this, but the jacket art is all hand-drawn by me, bow down


    31AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:20
    Re: #30
    Looks like the kind of doodles you'd scribble on your desk back in school
    32AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:21
    Re: #30
    Nice collection you've got there
    The logos and everything are seriously clean, well done
    33AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:23
    Re: #30
    Wait, didn't MDs and CD-Rs already exist by then?
    35AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:25
    Cassettes don't really have a shelf life — you can still record and play them back fine even now
    40AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:28
    Re: #35
    I guess as long as you store them somewhere that doesn't grow mold, they're fine
    Though summer heat might be rough on them
    43AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:30
    Cassette tapes are apparently getting popular with Gen Z
    50AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:32
    Re: #43
    I guess it's that "emo" aesthetic thing (emotionally evocative, nostalgic vibe)
    Though even at double speed it'd just make that whirring sound
    47AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:31
    I got rid of both my cassettes and MDs, CDs only now




    55AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:36
    Re: #47
    SIAM SHADE 5 is a masterpiece. Closing out with "Grayish Wing" at the end is just incredible
    56AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:38
    Re: #47
    Seeing the words "day after tomorrow" made me start singing, "if I could spot a shooting star streaking across the night sky right now, what would I wish for"
    58AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:38
    Re: #47
    Our tastes are basically identical. TM Network, access, capsule… Capsule's "COMPUTER HOUSE OF MODE" is a classic too, right?
    60AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:39
    Cassette tape fans were split into Team Sony and Team TDK
    Maxell and AXIA were minority picks
    64AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:41
    Re: #60
    I never had any particular preference
    Just bought whatever was cheapest with my allowance — ended up with a lot of TDK, I think
    70AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:43
    Re: #60
    The Maxell high-position tapes at the rental shop had that blue see-through case, those were my favorite
    71AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:44
    Re: #60
    I was mostly Maxell
    TDK occasionally
    65AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:41
    Yours truly has about 100 dead-stock metal tapes stashed away
    72AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:44
    Re: #65
    If you've never opened them, they're probably moldy
    75AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:46
    Re: #64
    I didn't have any particular preference either
    If anything, I'd buy whatever rare cassette I found
    TDK's quality was decent as I recall
    84AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:50
    Re: #75
    TDK felt like a solid middle-ground choice
    People probably bought them in 10-packs for things like dubbing rentals
    Could barely afford metal or premium tapes
    Then probably moved on to MD eventually
    78AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:46
    Re: #71
    Does TDK still exist, I wonder
    Both cassettes and CDs are a dying business after all
    83AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:49
    Re: #78
    Electronic components and HDD heads are their main business now
    86AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:51
    120-minute tapes used to snap easily, so I'd fix them myself and keep using them
    102AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:09
    Re: #86
    I think some boomboxes actually came with a warning not to use 120-minute tapes
    95AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:58
    There's a lyric in Noriyuki Makihara's "Love Letter"
    "Because I wanted to give you the tape I made staying up all night"
    That was '96, I think
    97AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:00
    Re: #95
    "Racing down the night road on a motorcycle"
    99AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:02
    Re: #97
    The motorcycle part is great too
    How it leads into "taking off my helmet, my hair all messed up~"
    is a nice touch
    100AnonymousOct 10, 2026 23:05
    Re: #99
    I like the later part about walking the bike home at dusk
    It's just too artistic

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Cassette tapes became widespread in the late 1970s, and the auto-reverse mechanism was a technology that emerged in the early 1980s. Because it reverses direction at the protective tape (leader tape) section, there was a structural limitation where the sound would cut off if a recording crossed from one side to the other. “Quick-reverse,” which solved this weakness, was a feature that manufacturers competed to develop, and the thread goes into specific detail on those technical differences between companies. The “Team Sony vs. Team TDK” debate, meanwhile, reflects real differences in sound quality and durability between brands’ tapes at the time — it’s rooted in lived experience, not just a simple preference. Opinions were split mainly on the question of “how long cassettes last”: some say they still play back fine today given the right storage conditions, while others pointed out that metal tapes left unopened for long periods risk developing mold. Though not mentioned in the thread, it’s worth adding that Gen Z’s cassette boom is tied to a movement among record labels at home and abroad to release new music on cassette as well — so there’s a commercial angle behind it beyond simple nostalgia.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Sad News] A Person Born in the Showa Era Used to Record Music onto Cassette Tapes“.

  • Sanma Lives Just a 2-Minute Walk From the Studio — 5ch: ‘Did Not Expect the Kyururun Beam to Get Dissed’

    Morning Musume’s Rio Sakurai and Shuko Yugeta appeared on MBS Radio’s “Young Town Saturday,” which aired at 10 PM on October 10, 2026, alongside guest Nanami Kubota. The live-thread chatter covered an episode where Akashiya Sanma praised Rio’s charm point before recording, a round of ribbing aimed at Murakami Shoji’s signature pose “Kyururun Beam,” and the behind-the-scenes tidbit that Sanma’s house is just a 2-minute walk from the studio. Discussion also got tangled over the origin of the phrase “Churira,” with some posts misremembering its source while others jumped in to set the record straight.

    radiko

    Young Town Saturday

    @yando_staff

    Source: radiko.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:24
    Three-day weekend, what should I do〜⭐︎ Rio Sakurai
    https://ameblo.jp/morningmusume16ki/entry-12981117611.html

    Today was the Yantan recording 😽

    The director gave me…
    a Yantan Book! 📚⭐
    Thank you so much 😭 (I was literally about to buy one myself)
    I'm gonna read it cover to cover and study up on Yantan's whole history 🫶🏻

    Also…
    I was so happy that Akashiya Sanma complimented my charm point during today's recording,
    so please be sure to tune in to the broadcast 😽🎶 lol lol
    4AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:52
    The Kyururun thing, huh.
    Sounds like it'll be good.
    5AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:59
    Didn't Nanami do some kind of ambassador gig or something?
    6AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:00
    HERE IT COMES━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━!!
    7AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:01
    Radiko's started
    8AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:01
    Sanma: 'You lot have never even been to the smoking room, have you.'
    9AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:01
    Oh right, the studio changed last week.
    The sound was different from usual so it threw me for a second.
    10AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:01
    My Radiko just started too
    11AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:01
    They're already talking about year-end specials
    12AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:04
    I wish Sanma's house could be the green room
    13AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:05
    It really is super close to his house, huh
    14AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:06
    Love from Oregon
    15AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:07
    Love from Oregon
    starring Furuya Ikko and Kinomi Nana
    16AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:08
    Oh, the drama Imafuku Masao was in
    Ikko orders clam chowder and the waitress keeps making him repeat it
    17AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:08
    Sanma: 'What's the deal, red outfit but singing "Blue"? Now I'm getting annoyed.'
    18AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:08
    Rairii's treating Sanma like her dad
    19AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:09
    Just tell him to buy you a condo while you're at it
    20AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:10
    A woman who suits red
    21AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:10
    Nanami: 'Kyururun Beam!!'
    23AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:10
    Guess he's not a fan of Kyururun lol
    24AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:10
    Total knockoff of the Pinky Beam (koyubeam)
    25AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:10
    Isn't it that going by car means looping all the way around, so it's actually farther that way?
    33AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:14
    Re: #25
    By car it's a bit of a haul, but on foot it's about a 2-minute walk from Sanma's house to the studio
    26AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:11
    KYURURUN HERE IT COMES━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━!!
    27AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:12
    Ah, that time.
    So this makes it her second appearance already.
    28AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:12
    Yeah, something did happen — the one where the Master (fans' nickname for Sanma) kept pushing to make him do the call-and-response
    30AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:13
    Guess Shoji's not into Kyururun lol
    31AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:13
    I haven't eaten hassaku (a Japanese citrus fruit) in like 40 years
    34AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:14
    Shoji: 'Cut that out.'
    35AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:15
    Claiming to know the real origin of Kyururun
    36AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:15
    Ayaya used to sing that
    38AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:16
    Wasn't 'Churira' a word Sanma coined?
    41AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:18
    Re: #38
    Isn't it Kureda Karuho (Yumi Matsutoya's songwriting pseudonym)?
    40AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:18
    Nanami: 'The fans will faint for you.'
    Shoji: 'That's rough on the fans.'
    46AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:21
    Caught a bit of Inside Out on the Friday movie slot, and the main character's name was Riley.
    I feel like Rairii once said she didn't like being called 'Rairii' — wonder what was going through her head, not wanting to share a nickname with the Disney/Pixar lead
    51AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:23
    Who'd have guessed — the Kyururun Beam gets called out…
    56AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:26
    Sounds like it comes from 'Tururira' in 'Nobara no Etude' (The Wild Rose Etude), and either Sanma or Matsuo Bannai started using 'Churira' to mean frills after that
    57AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:26
    This is Murakami Shoji, the man who pioneered 'subberi-gei' — comedy built around jokes that flop on purpose

    Background and Talking Points

    “Young Town Saturday” is MBS’s long-running late-night radio show, hosted for years by Akashiya Sanma and Murakami Shoji, with Hello! Project members traditionally appearing as assistants. As for the phrase “Churira” that came up in the thread, one theory floated was that it originated from a song by Ayaya (Matsuura Aya), but it’s actually said to come from “Tururira” in “Nobara no Etude” (The Wild Rose Etude), with either Sanma or Matsuo Bannai having started using it to mean “frills” — a point some posts in the thread got mixed up. Meanwhile, “Kyururun Beam” appears to be a signature pose the guest performs, and the fact that Shoji has previously pushed hard for a call-and-response bit around it is part of the show’s running gags — context that doesn’t quite come through from the text alone.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread “■ Rio Sakurai, Shuko Yugeta, Guest: Nanami Kubota ■ MBS Radio (Osaka 1179kHz) ‘MBS Young Town Saturday’ ■ 22:00–23:30 ■.”

  • Nagisa Watanabe Addresses ‘It’s a Lie’ and ‘Faking It’ Backlash Since Revealing Her PTSD, on World Mental Health Day

    Nagisa Watanabe, a former Fuji TV announcer, emceed the Tokyo Tower lighting ceremony on October 10, World Mental Health Day, and reported on social media that she “deeply related to the stories shared by those affected.” Watanabe left Fuji TV at the end of August 2024 and revealed that October that she has PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder), which she says first developed more than three years ago; after a two-month hospitalization, she reportedly still attends outpatient treatment. Since going public, she has reportedly faced criticism calling her claims “a lie,” “faking illness,” and “a burden on society.” On 5ch, comments were split between those questioning her sincerity and consistency with her past activities, and those arguing the criticism has gone too far.

    Sat, Oct 10, 2026

    Announcer Nagisa Watanabe, who left Fuji TV at the end of August 2024 and announced on social media that October that she has PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder), emceed the Tokyo Tower lighting ceremony on October 10, World Mental Health Day.

    “At the ceremony, I was able to hear from those directly affected,” she wrote on social media. “Since I myself developed PTSD more than three years ago, was hospitalized for two months, and am still receiving outpatient treatment as someone living with it, I deeply related to everyone’s stories.”

    Source: daily.co.jp / Read the original article

    8AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:14
    How long are they gonna keep milking this story?
    96AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:45
    Re: #8
    Until she can thrive on TV as a freelance announcer
    ↓
    That day will never come
    ↓
    So this will go on until she dies
    9AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:14
    They're probably just unpopular, creepy old guys anyway — not worth paying attention to
    10AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:14
    Still complaining, yet still living in Japan, huh
    15AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:15
    Did something actually happen that would cause PTSD?
    16AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:16
    Don't write about it, don't drag it out
    that's what's best for her
    17AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:16
    She'll probably have another meltdown ("heraru," net slang for an emotional breakdown) after this and head overseas again lol
    29AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:23
    Nagisa Watanabe confessing she has a crab allergy


    Nagisa Watanabe chowing down on the trending crab ramen


    Why on earth
    39AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:24
    Re: #29
    Maybe she's just a natural-born con artist?
    68AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:34
    Re: #29
    Komeo, komekomeo, kokkomeo (a nonsensical chant/meme sound, meaning unclear)
    94AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:44
    Re: #29
    Once you're at Nagisa's level, you can switch your allergies on and off at will
    32AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:23
    "It's a lie" isn't even criticism
    it's just her own past behavior coming back around
    33AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:23
    Isn't it her personality people dislike, not the PTSD, lol
    34AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:23
    I think she should step back from the media for a while
    and just live as an ordinary person
    38AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:24
    Rather than taking on "every kind of criticism," she should've just fought that one battle

    It's because she stuck her hand into way too many unrelated things
    40AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:24
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vXMcKcP-WI0

    What makes a cool adult? Thinking about responsibility and kindness | Nagisa Watanabe x Gen Z
    44AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:25
    Re: #1
    Why does she crave attention this much?

    Can her need for validation really be satisfied this way?
    61AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:33
    If she doesn't post regularly, people will just forget about her

    Background and Points of Debate

    Watanabe’s departure coincided with the period when the scandal involving Masahiro Nakai became public within Fuji TV, and she has explained on social media that distrust in the company’s handling of the matter contributed to her developing PTSD. The “faking illness” theory that emerged in the thread stems from unease over the fact that, even after announcing her leave of absence and diagnosis, her media appearances, social media posts, and past glamour-modeling work have continued without interruption. That said, no one but Watanabe herself can verify the reality of her symptoms or treatment, and there is no basis to definitively call her posts “lies” based on the content alone. The pattern in which public figures who post frequently are more likely to have their illness doubted may itself reflect how understanding of mental illness still has a long way to go.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Entertainment & Sports News+) thread “Nagisa Watanabe: “Since announcing my PTSD, I’ve faced all kinds of criticism” — “‘It’s a lie,’ ‘faking illness,’ ‘a burden on society’…” World Mental Health Day [Ailuropoda melanoleuca★].”

  • Which Games Let the Sega Saturn Beat the PlayStation? 5ch Debates

    Which console was actually better, the Sega Saturn or the PlayStation, is a perennial topic that still gets rehashed regularly on 5ch, nearly 30 years after they launched. In this thread, plenty of posters argued that “for 2D stuff like fighting games and shooters, the Saturn crushed it,” and things got lively with specific titles like Sakura Wars, Devil Summoner, and Dynamite Cop. Meanwhile, some behind-the-scenes trivia about porting timelines came up too — “Darkstalkers was announced for PlayStation but never actually showed up, and since the Saturn version came out first, nobody bothered buying it” — along with nitpicky comparisons like “the 3DO version of D is the best one.” It turned out to be a thread with more nuance than a simple who-won-who-lost debate.

    1AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:30
    Lunar: Silver Star Story
    2AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:31
    It's SE-GA SA-TURN.
    Don't get it wrong again, idiot.
    3AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:32
    Once Sakura Wars V dropped on PS2, that was it — game over for Sega.
    4AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:32
    All the 2D fighting games and shooters.
    6AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:33
    Wasn't the Saturn version always the better one whenever a game came out on both?
    10AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:34
    Re: #6
    Go play the Saturn version of Resident Evil, then come back and talk!
    7AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:33
    Fighting games were a landslide win.
    The pad's input responsiveness was just on another level.
    63AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:58
    Re: #7
    For 3D fighters, Tekken takes that one.
    12AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:34
    Classmates 1 & 2 (a dating-sim series)
    Refrain Love
    46AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:46
    Re: #12
    Wasn't it Refrain Love 2?
    I really wanted to live in a dorm like that.
    13AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:34
    I bought a Sega Saturn just for those two Megami Tensei games.
    18AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:35
    Re: #13
    Those were Devil Summoner games, not mainline Megami Tensei, though.
    15AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:35
    Polygons were PlayStation's domain, but even PS fans will admit it — 2D was a Saturn landslide.
    30AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:40
    Fighting game ports were overwhelmingly better on the Saturn.
    35AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:42
    Re: #30
    Darkstalkers got announced early in the PS1's life and then just never showed up — meanwhile the Saturn got both Night Warriors and Vampire Savior first. By the time the PS version actually released, who was going to buy it?
    32AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:40
    I liked Blue Destiny too (the Gundam side-story game).
    38AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:43
    Re: #32
    I never even sent Bandai a postcard, but they mailed me a demo disc for this anyway.
    39AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:43
    My sense is that the famous ones all got ported to PlayStation eventually anyway.
    47AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:46
    Re: #39
    Even the cult-favorite Black Matrix got a PlayStation port later!
    40AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:44
    What about Regret, the one styled after Real Sound (Suda51's audio-drama game)?
    54AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:52
    Re: #40
    Hard to call it a good game.
    Though I did like the story.
    50AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:49
    Dynamite Cop
    58AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:54
    Re: #50
    This one.
    I love it so much.
    52AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:51
    I feel like same-day multi-platform releases on different hardware actually started around this era.
    Before that, it was more like 'wait, the exact same game is coming out on a totally different console?!'
    57AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:53
    Re: #52
    Ys III came out on PC, Famicom, Super Famicom, Mega Drive, and PC Engine, and used copies were dirt cheap no matter which version you got.
    75AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:08
    Re: #52
    That kind of thing happened plenty back in the Famicom days too.
    56AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:53
    It's genuinely baffling that Uncle from Another World (Isekai Ojisan, an anime about a Sega-obsessed otaku) never touches on Sega's arcade games.
    Back then Sega dominated arcades — practically Nintendo-level dominance — yet it almost never comes up.
    What kind of Sega fanboy is this guy supposed to be?
    60AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:57
    Re: #56
    The uncle's a console guy, not an arcade guy.
    64AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:58
    Re: #56
    Arcade Sega fanboys and console Sega fanboys are basically different breeds.
    62AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:58
    It's Parodius's Deluxe Pack, right? (known as "Dela Para" in Japan)
    I saw how bad the PS version turned out and decided to get the Saturn version instead.
    66AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:59
    Re: #62
    I shouldn't have sold my copy of Sexy Parodius.
    69AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:01
    Were there any PlayStation games with actual ecchi content?
    77AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:09
    Re: #69
    Houma Hunter Lime counts as light ecchi fare, I guess.
    76AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:09
    The one where you play as a baseball team's manager or owner?
    That was Saturn-exclusive, wasn't it?
    78AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:10
    Re: #76
    The strategy guide for Yakyuu Tsukuru ("Let's Make a Baseball Team!!") was a fun read.
    81AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:13
    What about Enemy Zero and D? Don't those count too?
    83AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:15
    Re: #81
    Enemy Zero never got a PS port because of that whole incident.
    And for D, the PS version with the upgraded CG is actually the better one.
    Though really, since the 3DO version includes director's-cut content, it beats both the Saturn and PS versions.
    89AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:23
    3D graphics that generation were all jagged edges anyway,
    so having strong 2D performance was actually a huge advantage.

    Looking at FF7 now, the graphics are pretty rough,
    but back then it felt like the cutting edge.
    95AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:28
    Re: #89
    That commercial with the suspension bridge you keep walking further out onto gave me chills.
    106AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:39
    Mega Drive, Saturn, and Dreamcast games all blur together for me — I can never remember which game was on which.
    111AnonymousOct 10, 2026 22:46
    Re: #106
    Nah, that's a stretch.
    You don't mix up Super Famicom, N64, and GameCube games, do you?

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    The Sega Saturn used a two-chip setup — VDP1 and VDP2 — built around 2D sprite rendering, which often let it handle fighting game and shooter ports more smoothly than the PlayStation. The PlayStation, on the other hand, was built around polygon rendering, which gave it the edge in 3D fighting games and racing titles. The “wins” and “losses” argued over in the thread are really just based on individual users’ impressions and the quality of specific ports — in terms of actual sales, the Saturn was decisively outsold by the PlayStation, and that fact doesn’t change. Partway through, the comparison also drifted to include the Mega Drive, Dreamcast, Super Famicom, and even the GameCube, mixing systems from different generations into the same conversation. Readers should note that some of the thread wanders away from the original “Saturn vs. PlayStation” topic into these tangents.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nanimo Jikkyo G) thread “[Proposition] Games Where the Sega Saturn Actually Beat the PlayStation.”

  • PS6 Price Could Hit $1,200 Max Without Sony Eating the Loss

    Speculation that Sony’s next-gen PS6 could cost as much as $1,200 if sold without taking a loss on the hardware itself (known as “gyakuzaya,” or reverse margin) became a hot topic on 5ch’s hardware/industry board (nicknamed “Geha”). Given that the current PS5 Pro has already climbed to around ¥200,000 domestically, some posters said “that wouldn’t even be surprising at this point,” while others worried “a price like that would kill adoption.” The thread also debated the reliability of an estimate putting manufacturing costs at around $760, as well as how the price would compare to PCs and the next-gen Switch.

    2AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:56
    Even selling at a loss it's still ¥150,000?
    You're kidding me.
    3AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:57
    This isn't just "the brakes are broken"—is this shaping up to be worse than the Dreamcast?
    4AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:57
    Consoles are done after this generation.
    8AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:59
    Re: #4
    No, it's just PlayStation that's finished.
    16AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:04
    Re: #4
    You typo'd C for P there.
    You should really stop using voice input.
    5AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:58
    Turns out if you sell your PS5 Pro, you can buy a PS6 with that money.
    PS6 is too cheap!
    6AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:58
    It's getting cracked wide open left and right, so they'd better hurry and move to the next gen.
    7AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:58
    It's unavoidable if they want to keep the platform they've spent years building.
    If they lose market share, the whole business model collapses.
    10AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:00
    By then the dollar will be back down to ¥100, so we'll be fiiine.
    12AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:01
    They've spent all this time trashing the Switch as a "poverty console," so I guess it's fine if the PS6 is an expensive one?
    13AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:02
    That's too cheap.
    I mean, the PS5 Pro is already ¥200,000.
    They should be charging more like ¥280,000.
    14AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:03
    Switch 3 will probably be around ¥80,000–100,000 too.
    They'll probably still keep it at a somewhat realistic price.
    The PS6 is going to get so expensive nobody will be able to afford it, and nobody will buy it.
    18AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:04
    Re: #14
    Forget next-gen, it'll hit that price even this generation.
    Without the Japan discount it's already ¥80,000, and there's a good chance of further hikes on top of that.
    15AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:03
    It's not even some crazy, unexpected price—that's the sad part, it actually feels about right.
    19AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:06
    A PlayStation insider's price prediction

    Tsukikage (agano4sq5)
    Reasons the PS6 might not end up pricier than the PS5 Pro:
    ・The PS6 prioritizes adoption, so it has a lower profit margin than the Pro
    ・It uses a lower-grade CPU and GPU than the Pro
    Since the Pro isn't meant to be a mass-adoption model, it's easier to give it a higher margin than the base model
    In other words, it's not necessarily true that the PS6 will definitely end up pricier than the PS5 Pro
    https://x.com/agano4sq5/status/2103440837212594295?s=46

    The $1,000 (¥160,000) figure for the PS6 cited in Tane's article is pure speculation and bogus

    The manufacturing cost is $760 (¥120,000)
    Newly released models are basically never sold for more than the manufacturing cost
    And it's extremely unlikely they'd jack the price up significantly on top of that

    Around ¥120,000 is the reasonable line
    https://x.com/agano4sq5/status/2038945960504758481?s=46
    35AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:23
    Re: #19
    For a console whose whole selling point is rich visuals and powerful processing,
    there's no reason they'd release a next-gen machine that's weaker than the previous one.
    20AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:07
    You can't really compare a ¥150,000 console to a PC on value.
    At that point you might as well splurge a little more and just get a PC.
    21AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:08
    It's unlikely to be cheaper than the PS5 Pro,
    so a $1,200 floor price with no built-in loss actually seems about right.
    Though if that happens, there's no way it sells 5 million units in Japan.
    22AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:09
    Sounds like the PS5 has been completely cracked wide open (hacked), so they probably want to put out a next-gen system and start fresh.
    23AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:11
    Even at around ¥200,000, with parts prices still climbing, they're probably still in the red.
    At this point there's no room to negotiate—it's just whatever price they say it is.
    24AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:12
    Actually, can they even pull off $1,200 without eating a loss?
    Seems like it'll end up costing more than that.
    31AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:21
    It's cheaper than a PC, right?
    That's great value, right?
    Have some confidence!
    38AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:25
    Re: #31
    PlayStation is indeed better value than a PC as a console,
    but we've entered an era where "(high-performance) consoles" themselves are just bad value in general.
    39AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:26
    It's not even selling at ¥55,000,
    so there's no way a PlayStation over ¥150,000 is gonna sell lol
    46AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:33
    Re: #39
    Still, they've got no choice but to do it.

    RTX 5090 — ¥1,000,000
    iPhone "Beo" — ¥500,000

    We can't let our PS6 be put to shame.
    50AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:36
    Re: #33
    Nice try, hater.
    You can run custom firmware (CFW) on it, so mods are totally free-form, you know?
    53AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:38
    Re: #50
    Lol, you're already assuming the PS6 gets hacked too.
    54AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:38
    If you think of it as being in iPhone price territory, it's not THAT expensive, but mainstream/casual buyers will probably stop buying altogether.
    Meanwhile the core gamers they actually want to win over are increasingly just going PC-only, upgrading their graphics card regularly instead.
    58AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:40
    Re: #54
    We're in an era where a graphics card alone can run you like ¥200,000.
    62AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:43
    Geha posters sure sound broke these days.
    ¥200,000 for something on par with a ¥500,000 PC setup is actually cheap.
    67AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:45
    Re: #62
    Well yeah, that's because those guys just play games all day instead of working.
    It should be ¥1,000,000 just to weed them out.
    68AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:46
    In Japan it'll probably be a ¥50,000 handheld and a ¥90,000 high-end model.
    72AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:55
    Re: #68
    Neither of those is realistic lol
    74AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:58
    Re: #68
    Get a job.
    PS6: ¥1,000,000, handheld: ¥300,000
    That's ¥1,300,000 total.
    71AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:50
    Nah, at this point they've given up on mass adoption and are just selling a small run at a high price.
    This is basically an Xperia situation (Sony's niche, low-volume, high-price phone line).
    77AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:00
    Re: #71
    Also known as the PSVR2 situation.
    81AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:02
    And on top of that, the games you'd play on it are the same as on the PS5.
    Too expensive so it doesn't spread, doesn't spread so they can't drop the old generation, can't drop the old generation so it doesn't spread—a vicious cycle.
    89AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:14
    Re: #81
    Looks like there'll be even more cross-gen releases (same game on both consoles) with the previous machine than there were with the PS5.
    97AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:30
    Re: #38
    Honestly, even as a console it's not that much better value than a PC.
    The gap between paid and free online is huge.
    It's only the upfront cost that's cheaper.
    98AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:33
    Re: #97
    Online play ("nettai"/"tropical," forum slang punning on "netto" for online) isn't mandatory, though.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Console pricing has long followed a practice called “gyakuzaya” (reverse margin), where hardware is sold below its manufacturing cost and the loss is recouped later through software sales and network fees. With semiconductor and circuit-board material costs climbing and the yen remaining weak, the street prices of the PS5 and PS5 Pro have trended upward since launch. The thread split into two camps: one saying “if this trend continues, $1,200 wouldn’t even be surprising,” and another warning that “a price that high would stall adoption and just prolong cross-gen sales alongside the previous console.” It’s worth noting that several unconfirmed estimates were circulating from different sources—including the $760 manufacturing-cost figure and commentary on an article by a writer referred to as “Tane”—and none of this amounts to an official announcement from Sony.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry, “Geha”) thread “PS6 Price Could Balloon to a Max of $1,200 Without Sony Subsidizing the Hardware Loss.”

  • Post Claiming ‘Company Covers 100% of Tokyo Rent’ Sparks Pushback on 5channel

    When the thread’s original poster complained that “Tokyo rent is expensive,” they were hit with a wave of replies insisting “normally your company’s rent subsidy covers it in full, with no cap.” That drew pushback like “no landlord’s screening would ever approve that” and “isn’t that actually company-leased housing you’re thinking of?”, along with comments suggesting the OP was mixing it up with the housing assistance that comes with welfare (seikatsu hogo). Partway through, the discussion drifted from rent subsidies themselves toward wanting that money folded into base salary instead, plus the fact that some companies cap subsidized units at 50 square meters or less.

    1AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:20
    Wow, impressive (´・ω・`)
    7AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:25
    You'd never pass the screening for a 2-million-yen-a-month place anyway, so forget it.
    8AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:25
    Re: #7
    The lease is in the company's name, dude.
    Have you never had a job?
    12AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:28
    Re: #8
    By definition, a rent subsidy doesn't require the lease to be in the company's name.

    Can you only argue by making stuff up?
    14AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:29
    Re: #12
    Whether it's "required" isn't really the point, is it?
    20AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:36
    Re: #12
    There's such a thing as company-leased housing (shakuage shataku), you know.
    9AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:25
    I think OP (Re: #1) is actually talking about the rent assistance that comes with welfare ("namapo").
    10AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:26
    Re: #9
    What makes you say that?
    11AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:26
    In Tokyo, a 1990s-built apartment or a 1K unit runs about 100,000 yen, right?
    I know because I saw it on a real-estate YouTuber's channel.
    Are you dumb or something?
    Where I'm from you can get the same kind of place for 30,000-40,000 yen lol
    13AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:28
    Re: #11
    Depends on the location and size.
    27AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:39
    Don't need a rent subsidy — just raise my base salary instead.
    28AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:41
    Re: #27
    Everything from income tax to health insurance premiums goes up if you do that, so company-leased housing wins hands down.
    29AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:42
    "Rent subsidy provided!" (up to 50㎡) is basically the standard catch.
    30AnonymousOct 10, 2026 19:45
    Re: #29
    That's more than enough space for a family of up to five.
    37AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:07
    At 40 square meters, two adults and one toddler is already cutting it close…
    150AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:31
    Re: #37
    We live in a roughly 60-square-meter rental with two adults and one toddler, and it's cramped enough that we're building a 120-square-meter house.
    Even that feels tight, honestly.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Company-leased housing (shataku) works by having the company sign the lease itself and then rent the unit out to the employee — an arrangement that’s often more favorable than a cash rent subsidy when it comes to income tax and social insurance calculations, which the thread itself raised as a reason companies prefer this method. On the other hand, “no cap” isn’t about screening an individual employee’s income — it comes down to the company’s own contract and budget, and in practice many companies do limit the price range or size of eligible units. Early in the thread, some posts also conflated this kind of company rent subsidy with the housing assistance paid to welfare (seikatsu hogo) recipients, but it’s worth keeping in mind that these are two entirely separate systems. It should also be noted that no concrete basis was given in the thread for the claim that “even a 2-million-yen property gets approved with no cap” — it’s best read as one individual’s anecdote rather than a general rule.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (News Speed VIP) thread “Me: “Man, Tokyo rent is expensive.” You guys: “Huh? Normally your rent subsidy covers it in full with no cap, right? lol Huh?”.”

  • License Photo Leak Sparks Wave of Reissue Requests—But Does It Actually Stop Identity Theft?

    After car-sharing service “Times Car” suffered a cyberattack that leaked driver’s license images and other data, people across Japan have been rushing to get their licenses reissued, fearing impersonation. According to Jiji Press, the National Police Agency is urging banks and other institutions to tighten identity checks, but experts say reissuing a license does little to actually prevent the fraud. On 5ch, a thread lit up with doubts like “What’s the point of reissuing when the leaked image of the old license is still out there?” One explanation that won broad support was that reissuing isn’t meant to stop impersonation itself—it’s a self-defense move so you can later prove “that wasn’t me” if your data gets misused. Others worried that having a reissue on record, tied to a data leak, could count against them when signing contracts like car-sharing memberships.

    After car-sharing service “Times Car” was hit by a cyberattack that leaked a large volume of driver’s license images and other personal data, people nationwide have been applying one after another to get their licenses reissued. The move appears driven by anxiety over impersonation and a desire to update the information printed on the card, but the reissue is said to do little to actually prevent harm. The National Police Agency is calling on banks and other institutions to thoroughly verify identities, and is advising the public: “If you suspect fraud or misuse of your personal information, please contact the police immediately.”

    Jiji Press

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:05
    But you're paying for it out of pocket, right?
    And all that actually changes is the last digit, 0 to 1?
    5AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:06
    Does reissuing make it so the old license's leak never happened? Loan screenings would probably still pass it through unchanged though
    117AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:41
    Re: #5
    Even if it passes, the license itself is already invalid, so the lender's the one at fault for approving it.
    7AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:07
    18AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:09
    For identity checks, I recommend the oh-so-safe-and-secure My Number card…
    79AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:29
    Re: #18
    Even apps used by tokuryu gangs (loosely-organized, social-media-recruited crime rings) can read that chip
    20AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:09
    What's actually the worst-case scenario from a leaked license photo?
    Feels like it won't end up being as big a hassle as people think
    38AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:14
    Re: #20
    Your name getting publicly outed as something embarrassing like "Princess"?
    100AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:36
    Re: #20
    Didn't Mercari and places like that require uploading a license photo as proof of identity?
    There are other services too—dating apps, adult content sites—where uploading a license photo gets you verified
    So basically, someone could set up accounts in your name on services like these and run wild with them
    156AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:51
    Re: #20
    There was apparently someone who had a credit card issued in their name and had appliances bought with it
    34AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:13
    We have the My Number card now, but back in the day a driver's license was pretty much the only thing that counted as ID—that's part of the problem too
    37AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:14
    Re: #34
    Health insurance card, passport
    56AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:20
    The government says "protect yourself," but—
    how am I supposed to protect personal info I already handed over to them?
    I'd get it if they told ministries and companies to stop collecting anything beyond the bare minimum of personal data, but…
    70AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:27
    Re: #56
    That's something you need to figure out yourself
    Self-help comes first
    59AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:21
    Re: #2
    The photo changes too
    And once it's folded into the My Number card, it becomes a completely different document
    102AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:37
    Re: #59
    Even if the photo changes,
    isn't the police pretty much the only one who can tell the old one isn't valid anymore?

    How would you even judge from an image alone that it's invalid while it's still within its expiration date?
    114AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:40
    Re: #102
    The only real fix seems to be opening up a system that lets private businesses check the latest reissue count
    But the police, who like to hoard that kind of info, probably won't go for it
    121AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:43
    Re: #102
    It won't stop the places with lax checks
    It's there so you can prove "that wasn't me" if a loan gets taken out behind your back
    67AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:26
    Everyone's pushing people to reissue, but doing so actually tags you as less trustworthy
    Even one reissue dings your score, and at two they won't lend you a car—my car-share contract got rejected because of it
    80AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:30
    Re: #67
    No way that happens, not with this much of an uproar going on
    74AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:28
    Even after renewal, impersonation is still possible once the old one's expired, so I'm not expecting it to prevent anything
    It's so I can say "that wasn't me" if a loan gets taken out without my knowledge
    If you consult the police, get a case number, and reissue citing the leak as the reason, it leaves a paper trail
    I'd rather not have the police kicking my door in because it was used in a crime
    109AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:39
    Re: #74
    Ah, so it's not about preventing the misuse itself,
    it's updating it so you have proof "that wasn't me" if it does get misused—got it
    130AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:45
    Re: #121
    Got it, so that's what Re: #74 was getting at
    78AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:29
    If Times' contract has a clause saying they're exempt from liability, there's nothing to be done
    but is that actually how it reads?
    84AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:32
    Re: #78
    Terms that violate the law are void
    86AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:33
    Even if you get your license reissued, that won't stop impersonation using the already-leaked image
    94AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:35
    Re: #86
    It's not about preventing impersonation
    It's self-defense for after you've already been impersonated
    164AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:52
    If the driver's license—supposedly the strongest form of ID out there—is now unreliable, what are we even supposed to use for identification going forward?
    181AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:56
    Re: #164
    The My Number card will probably meet a similar fate eventually too
    182AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:56
    Re: #164
    Blood or saliva DNA
    These days AI can even analyze registered fingerprints
    Also, if your seal-stamp image gets stolen, it's trivial to make an identical seal
    212AnonymousOct 10, 2026 21:05
    Re: #164
    Well, a driver's license was originally just a certificate proving you're qualified to drive—using it as ID was always just a repurposing anyway, so the My Number card should do fine from here on
    170AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:54
    Could someone open a bank account I don't even know about?
    Honestly, any bank still approving identity checks based on nothing but a copy of a license is way behind the times
    183AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:56
    Re: #170
    Wasn't chip authentication supposed to be mandatory for banks?
    186AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:56
    Re: #170
    Wasn't a My Number required to open a bank account?
    187AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:56
    Private companies are just eyeballing the image, not actually querying anything each time, right?
    So isn't this pointless?
    By that logic the IC chip on the license is just wasted tax money too, isn't it just as pointless?
    191AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:58
    Re: #187
    They check the card's thickness too, so an image alone wouldn't cut it
    196AnonymousOct 10, 2026 20:58
    Re: #187
    That "we buy online" used bookstore chain did identity checks with nothing but a license photo
    Just remembered that

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    For years, the driver’s license was treated as the “ultimate” proof of identity in Japan, but when the image itself leaks—as in this case—a verification method that just checks the number and photo loses much of its bite. As for the “self-help” the National Police Agency keeps invoking, the companies entrusted with the data aren’t exactly blameless either, so how much individuals can realistically be expected to defend against this on their own is really a separate question. Where the thread split was over what reissuing actually accomplishes. Against the hope that “once the photo changes, you should be able to tell the pre-leak license is invalid,” in reality only institutions that can query the police database can determine validity—most private businesses verify identity purely by how the image looks. So reissuing isn’t really a safeguard against impersonation itself; it functions more as creating a record you can point to later, to claim “that wasn’t me” if the data gets misused. There was also unease that having a reissue history tied to a data leak might mark someone as a “high-risk customer” in contracts like car-sharing memberships—raising the broader question of why the victims end up bearing the disadvantage.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (News Express+) thread “License Photo Leak Sparks Wave of Reissue Requests.”