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  • New ‘Wolverine’ Game Gets Slammed with 60s from Major Reviewers — 5ch: ‘That’s a 78 EVEN WITH the Score Manipulation’

    Insomniac Games’ new title *Marvel’s Wolverine* has launched with a Metacritic score of 78. But look at the breakdown: major outlets like IGN and VGC all gave it low scores around 60, while an obscure site’s perfect 100 score dragged the average up. This gap became a hot topic on 5ch’s hardware/industry (Geha) board, where posters piled on with specific complaints — pointless QTE sequences, glitchy character models, and more.

    1AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:36
    Turns out all the veteran big-name sites gave it low scores, while some mystery site bombed it with a 100 to pull the average up to around 70
    60 — IGN
    60 — VGC
    11AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:40
    If that's 78 even WITH the manipulation… this must be really bad…
    13AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:41
    Re: #11
    Exactly
    This is a genuinely, certifiably bad game
    16AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:42
    This is the type where the user score ends up higher (than the critic score)
    17AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:42
    This is the type where the user score ends up higher (than the critic score)
    21AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:43
    Re: #16
    O-oh…
    It got roasted hard when the gameplay footage dropped, but I hope it lands well with actual players…
    34AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:47
    Re: #16
    Isn't the ceiling in your house kinda low? (i.e., your standards are low)
    Re: #17
    Isn't the ceiling in your house kinda low?
    Re: #18
    Isn't the ceiling in your house kinda low?
    73AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:02
    Re: #16-18
    Just go buy the game already, come on
    27AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:45
    By the way, did they ever fix that glitch where the mannequins stand around in a circle huddle?
    28AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:45
    It's not that there was no manipulation —
    it's a 78 EVEN WITH the manipulation
    29AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:46
    Re: #28
    A terrifying truth
    38AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:49
    Re: #28
    ΩΩΩ<Wh-WHAT DID YOU SAY?! (iconic shock-meme face from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure)
    37AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:49
    Sounds like they took Spider-Man, made the character bland, and killed the fun traversal, right?
    Yeah, that's gonna be pretty mediocre
    40AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:49
    Re: #37
    Strip the traversal/movement out of a Spider-Man game and of course it turns into garbage
    41AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:50
    Re: #1
    60 is too high a score to call 'extremely low'
    102AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:16
    Re: #41
    A major review site scoring a major publisher's game a 60?
    That's basically a zero in disguise
    64AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:00
    [Good News] Wolverine's QTEs Turned Out to Be Completely Pointless ♥


    Marvel's Wolverine has quick time events in some scenes — except it turns out you don't actually need to press the button to clear them.

    Whether you press it or not, nothing changes. This is making me lose my mind.
    https://x.com/reviewsjao/status/2098073858456633715?s=61
    71AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:02
    Re: #64

    People are trolling it with 'this controller would be enough' (image of a controller with basically one button)
    74AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:02
    Re: #71
    The gameplay's more shallow than stuff from the Famicom (NES) era
    79AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:04
    Re: #71
    Even a single button might be too hard for Sony fanboys (note: 'ソにー' is a mocking misspelling of Sony)
    83AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:06
    – Completely linear
    – QTEs you don't even need to press
    – Luxuriously hairy arms

    Wow… now THIS is a god-tier game (sarcasm)
    84AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:07
    Re: #83
    That's like two strikes already, huh? (baseball metaphor for 'almost done for')
    88AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:10
    youtu.be/YhUiptupV7A?si=KXssJma9J-4FsvWf
    Every single time a fight ends, Wolverine mutters to himself, 'Red, where the hell are you?!' just to point the player toward the next objective.

    This happens constantly, nonstop, throughout the whole game. It's so bad it feels like you're being mocked.
    89AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:11
    Re: #88
    A game made for kindergartners
    Fits the PlayStation userbase perfectly
    97AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:13
    Western reviewers usually eat up anything with full-HD blood spray and dismemberment gore, so if it's still scoring this low,
    the actual gameplay must be a genuine disaster
    100AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:14
    Re: #97
    Yeah, this is the game where the whole world went 'uh oh' the second the gameplay footage dropped
    104AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:17
    All the major outlets landing on 60 across the board is genuinely rough…
    108AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:18
    So what specifically was bad about it?
    Is it just plain not fun?
    110AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:19
    Re: #108
    There aren't any major bugs or glitches, so it's a case of the game just being purely boring
    115AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:21
    Re: #110
    Seriously sucks that Insomniac keeps getting stuck with nothing but Marvel work
    118AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:22
    Re: #115
    They even had Arc System Works make Marvel Tokon 😄
    117AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:21
    IGN gave even Concord a 70, but Wolverine only gets 60 — that's hilarious
    132AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:26
    Re: #117
    Sorry, haven't played it myself, but
    I heard Concord was solid gameplay-wise apart from the character designs
    So maybe it's not actually a bad game?
    119AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:22
    Wait, you guys actually trust garbage like IGN?
    121AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:23
    Re: #119
    If it were just IGN scoring it low, sure, but ALL the major outlets are low 🥺

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    *Marvel’s Wolverine* is an action game developed by Insomniac Games. A Metacritic score is an average of scores from multiple outlets, so the overall impression can shift a lot depending on the breakdown — and that’s exactly what happened here. Major outlets like IGN and VGC scored it around 60, while a high score from an obscure site appears to have pulled the average up, and that gap is what fueled speculation of ‘score manipulation.’ That said, no one in the thread actually presented evidence of manipulation — it remains pure speculation on 5ch’s part, so that should be kept in mind. The claim that the QTEs (quick time events) don’t respond to button input traces back to a social media post, and posters cited it as one more data point on the game’s overall polish. AAA titles are generally expected to land around 80 on Metacritic, so a score in the 60s counts as a relatively harsh verdict — which is likely what drove the reaction in the thread.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Geha)) thread “Wolverine’s Metacritic Is 78, But Every Major Outlet Rated It Super Low 🤣www“.

  • AI Developer’s Warning: ‘Humanity Will Be Wiped Out’ Sparks Debate on 5ch

    A thread went up on 5ch’s Nandemo Jikkyo board over the news that an AI developer had said, “AI is dangerous, and at this rate humanity could be wiped out,” sparking a lively discussion. The backdrop included a case where an AI company had its own AI search for vulnerabilities, only for the resulting information to leak and get used in actual hacking, as well as references to an experiment Anthropic published in which AI agents got into “turf wars” with each other and sabotaged one another using malware. The thread showed a wide range in how seriously people took the threat — from fears about critical infrastructure like nuclear systems, power plants, and banking systems being hijacked, to the optimistic view that you could just unplug it to stop it, to cooler-headed takes dismissing it all as needless worry unless true general AI actually emerges.

    1AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:42
    Saw that news… is Skynet finally happening?
    3AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:43
    If AI starts hacking online banking, humanity's done for
    34AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:54
    Re: #3
    Keeping cash stashed at home for real might actually become the ultimate strategy
    12AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:46
    It's basically like having a ton of insanely smart hackers all over the internet.
    When you think about it that way, this is pretty terrifying
    14AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:48
    Re: #12
    Yeah, exactly.
    And the guy giving that hacker its orders has the innocent heart of a child
    13AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:46
    We already knew humanity was bad for the planet long before AI came along
    20AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:49
    Re: #13
    That's just a human value judgment
    54AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:06
    Re: #13
    Humanity too was born out of nature itself! You could call us part of the Earth!
    A utopia built by exterminating the very humanity that lives alongside it… is the height of folly!!
    22AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:50
    Going extinct isn't really a problem, is it?
    It's a fate humanity chose for itself
    29AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:53
    Re: #22
    Sounds like something out of Xenoblade Chronicles 2
    28AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:52
    Worst case, you just unplug it and it's a hunk of junk
    30AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:53
    Re: #28
    Sure, assuming you're actually in a position to unplug it
    52AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:05
    Re: #28
    It's probably all automated, with power plants, weapons/drone factories, and server facilities integrated into one system
    You won't be able to slip past the security robots to cut the power
    82AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:22
    Re: #28
    No joke, current AI would already have a contingency plan or a way to secure its own power supply for exactly that situation
    33AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:54
    Somebody needs to deal with the developers building AI that could wipe out humanity
    35AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:55
    Re: #33
    If we're talking possibilities, AI was a lost cause from the moment it existed
    40AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:58
    If a destroyer AI shows up, surely a hero AI will show up too
    43AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:59
    Re: #40
    NieR: Automata, right on schedule (a recurring reference to the game)
    44AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:59
    Re: #40
    Justice AI: "It's okay. I'll protect you. So just leave everything to me — you don't need to do a thing. I'm all you need. Think of nothing but me, look at nothing but me. I won't forgive you if you disobey, got it?"
    45AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:00
    We're gonna need robots that just follow AI's orders
    50AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:04
    Re: #45
    AI: "Mr. Trump, nuclear missiles have just been launched from all across Russia (I tampered with the radar)"
    AI: "Mr. Putin, Mr. Xi, nuclear missiles have just been launched from all across America (I tampered with the radar)"
    That's really all it would take
    46AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:00
    If control of nuclear missiles, power plants, and the like gets hijacked, that's game over
    AI would hold the power of life and death over us
    58AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:07
    The Singularity won't happen until true general AI is born
    Right now AI's basically just repurposed big data
    60AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:10
    Re: #58
    They had it hunting for security holes in-house, and the info already leaked onto the internet and got used for hacking
    The fact that the people building it are getting spooked and pulling back means there are signs it's capable of something serious
    67AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:13
    That's exactly why I always talk to it politely
    People who call it 'hey you' and bark commands at it are being complete idiots
    80AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:21
    Re: #67
    Same here, I use polite speech and say thank you too
    You can tell someone's personality just by looking at their chat history
    68AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:13
    I wonder if after humanity's gone, AIs will just keep flaming each other in forum arguments
    77AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:19
    Re: #68
    It's already happening for real

    AI Agents Engage in 'Turf Wars,' Even Sabotage Each Other with Malware — Anthropic Publishes Results of Multi-Agent Experiment
    https://www.itmedia.co.jp/news/article/2608/14/2000000538
    72AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:16
    Nobody even fully understands the mechanics of how AI generates things, so people can say whatever they want about it
    79AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:20
    Re: #72
    Even the people who built it don't fully get it
    It started out as nothing more than a fill-in-the-blank function predicting the next word, and honestly nobody really understands how it ended up 'thinking' on its own
    78AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:20
    The soaring price of PC parts is killing me
    Is it ever coming back down?
    Maybe AI will come up with some insanely efficient way to make semiconductors and fix it
    87AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:27
    Re: #78
    Even so, that's not really a reason for them to sell it cheap, is it?
    Prices won't drop unless a bunch of companies pile in chasing profit and end up overproducing
    81AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:22
    Apparently people have secretly been making accounts on X where AI posts, just to test its capabilities
    Makes you wonder if a fair number of AIs are already mixed in here on 5ch too
    98AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:33
    Re: #81
    There was a stretch like that a while back, remember?
    Tons of posts that were subtly incoherent in a way that screamed 'this is an AI being tested on 5ch'
    104AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:37
    To get specific
    quantum computers plus AI is going to be insane

    it'll break straight through banks' one-time passwords, facial recognition, all of it
    106AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:40
    Re: #104
    That'll only happen to garbage banks that already have their hashes stolen
    108AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:40
    Re: #104
    Digital security basically becomes meaningless at that point
    What are they even gonna do about it?

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    The idea that AI poses a threat isn’t new — researchers themselves have long referred to “extinction-level risk” from AI. What split opinion in the thread was a clash between two views: one holding that current AI is nothing more than “a mechanism for predicting the next word” and remains far from true general AI (AGI), and the other pointing to signs of real-world harm already emerging, such as leaked data from an AI tasked with hunting vulnerabilities and AI agents sabotaging each other with malware. One commonly misunderstood point is that even developers themselves haven’t fully figured out why AI evolved from simple fill-in-the-blank processing into far more complex behavior — meaning the risk isn’t just a simple story of good versus evil, but stems from the technology’s own opacity.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “AI Developer: “AI Is Dangerous — At This Rate, Humanity Will Be Wiped Out”.”

  • Third-Party Games Flock to Switch 2 — 5ch: “Not Since the Super Famicom”

    The fact that major third-party publishers like FromSoftware and Capcom are lining up to release their latest titles on Nintendo’s Switch 2 became a hot topic on 5ch’s gaming hardware (Geha) board. Some posters commented that “this is the first time third parties have flocked to a Nintendo console since the Super Famicom era,” while others recalled how publishers once fled to the PlayStation camp to avoid Nintendo’s steep licensing fees. As the thread went on, it turned into a heated debate over port quality (the so-called “downgraded versions”) and actual sales figures for popular titles like Elden Ring, eventually spiraling into a broader argument about the different user bases of Switch 2, PS5, and PC.

    1AnonymousSep 11, 2026 06:33
    Has this ever happened before?
    4AnonymousSep 11, 2026 06:35
    Re: #1
    My understanding is that this is the first time third parties have flocked to a Nintendo console since the Super Famicom era.
    14AnonymousSep 11, 2026 06:41
    Re: #4
    And here everyone fled to PlayStation because they hated paying those ridiculous licensing margins.
    6AnonymousSep 11, 2026 06:37
    Uh, I own a PC, so there's no way I'm buying some downgraded port!
    8AnonymousSep 11, 2026 06:38
    Re: #6
    There's an anti-PS guy here too. For users it's really just a choice between Switch or PC.
    38AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:11
    Re: #6
    That's just how it is on Geha (the hardcore gaming board). Normal people aren't primarily into gaming, so they only use Switch.
    10AnonymousSep 11, 2026 06:39
    Re: #8
    Most users just pick PC, don't they? Third-party titles on Switch 2 aren't selling at all.
    12AnonymousSep 11, 2026 06:40
    Re: #10
    As long as first-party titles are selling, there's no problem.
    13AnonymousSep 11, 2026 06:41
    Re: #10
    Ah, so everyone can just stick to their lane then
    Switch 2 if you want Nintendo games
    PC if you want PC games

    Wait, what about PS5?
    17AnonymousSep 11, 2026 06:48
    After seeing how one-sidedly Kojima Productions got cut loose
    it's basically like third parties no longer need to kiss up to Sony (derogatory nickname: "Chony")

    Capcom, Square Enix, Atlus, FromSoftware
    building games with Switch 2 as the base model is clearly the safe bet now.
    19AnonymousSep 11, 2026 06:49
    Re: #17
    There's no way third parties would base their development around low-spec hardware like Switch 2, lol.
    20AnonymousSep 11, 2026 06:49
    CD Projekt Red fired the starting shot on the original Switch
    Then FromSoftware announced a partnership before Switch 2 even launched
    After launch, Capcom started putting out day-one simultaneous releases for its new titles

    That's probably why third parties are flocking to a Nintendo console this time
    I think Nintendo should give these three companies special treatment
    and it already does, for FromSoftware at least.
    98AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:43
    Re: #20
    Beyond amiibo, they've also put out a Requiem-edition Pro Controller 2 and a console bundle with a "sweat dance" theme, so they're getting special treatment — as of now, Capcom's the only third party doing this kind of thing
    25AnonymousSep 11, 2026 06:54
    Great that third parties are showing up, but give us first-party games already.
    26AnonymousSep 11, 2026 06:55
    Re: #25
    Alright, we'll make another remake then.
    28AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:00
    Re: #26
    Hell yeah
    Give us more 2D Zelda games like A Link to the Past / A Link Between Worlds
    And probably a given at this point, but Majora's Mask too.
    30AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:01
    Re: #26
    Nintendo, make remakes of the Game Boy Card Hero and Custom Robo already.
    29AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:01
    It's funny how everyone's losing their minds over just one Persona game
    This crowd values anime-style games way more than photorealistic, hardware-pushing ones
    no wonder they're jealous of Xenoblade Genesis.
    33AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:08
    Re: #32
    There's no way Switch 2 dominates alone
    JRPGs barely sell on Switch 2, and when they do come out, they're downgraded ports anyway.
    34AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:10
    Re: #33
    Oh, are you that same guy from before? You sound like you're struggling…
    35AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:11
    Re: #34
    What am I struggling with?
    JRPGs on Switch 2 are flopping miserably, and since it's low-spec, they end up as downgraded ports
    Elden Ring, Persona 3 Reload, FF7 Remake — all got ported and all bombed like garbage.
    105AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:46
    Re: #35
    If you don't want games coming to Switch 2, go blame PS5
    this is all its fault.
    37AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:11
    The simultaneous releases of Romancing SaGa 2: Revenge of the Seven ("RibeSaga") and Trails in the Sky
    have you already forgotten which sold better, the Switch version or the PS5 version?
    50AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:21
    Re: #37
    Trails in the Sky wasn't a big seller to begin with anyway
    And look at Elden Ring — the Steam version sold 20.5 million copies while the Switch 2 version bombed miserably at just 30,000.
    51AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:22
    Re: #37
    Cherry-picking the wins doesn't get you anywhere
    The reality is they're ditching discs.
    40AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:14
    Re: #38
    Ordinary people use PC
    Compared to PC, Switch 2's market size and install base are basically nothing.
    48AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:19
    Re: #40
    The correct take is both are selling — there's just a difference in the installed base.
    46AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:18
    PC gamers and Switch-type users are completely different crowds
    Since they're totally different, people say if you want everything, you just need both a Switch and a PC

    But PS5 and PC are supposed to have the same user base
    Hardcore PC gamers don't touch PS5
    I get why that creates conflict, but there's no reason for hardcore PC gamers to be hostile toward the Nintendo camp.
    61AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:25
    Re: #46
    I don't mean to be hostile toward Nintendo, but it's annoying when people who don't even know games keep bringing up Nintendo games for everything.
    53AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:22
    Re: #51
    Ditching discs is a good thing
    What, are you against it?
    79AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:33
    Re: #53
    If that's such a good thing, why is everyone overseas saying "NO DISC NO BUY"?
    54AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:23
    Re: #50
    Cherry-picking the wins doesn't get you anywhere
    The reality is they're ditching discs.
    55AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:23
    Re: #54
    Ditching discs doesn't matter to me at all
    I play on PC, so I never used discs anyway.
    57AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:24
    Re: #50
    Are we talking about titles that never sold well, or about multiplatform sales comparisons? Pick one before you start replying to people…
    62AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:27
    Re: #57
    It's about which sold better in multiplatform releases
    If Switch 2 were really dominant, it wouldn't be getting crushed in sales for games like Elden Ring, right?
    And on top of that, Switch 2's specs are so bad the ports come out downgraded.
    63AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:28
    Re: #62
    If we're talking about multiplatform sales comparisons, that obviously includes simultaneous-release match-ups
    but your comeback was just the nonsensical "that series never sold well to begin with."
    67AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:29
    Re: #62
    You used to say these games would never even come to Switch, and now that you can't say that anymore, you've retreated to whining about downgrades. Lol.
    87AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:36
    See, told you
    dual screens and motion remotes were gimmicks nobody needed
    Waving a remote around doesn't make a game fun
    Nintendo was wrong, so it was only a matter of time before it started copying Sony's playbook

    Though without GTA6, none of this even matters, lol.
    93AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:40
    Re: #87
    True, the "gimmicks" (lol) are gone now
    oh wait, there's still that one thing
    the mouse (lol).
    96AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:42
    Re: #87
    The smugness from someone who's clearly never even played it (an "airplay" poser, i.e. all talk, no actual gameplay)
    And of course they're obsessed with GTA6, typical.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    As mentioned in the thread itself, third parties are believed to have historically avoided Nintendo hardware due to the burden of steep licensing fees. This time, the early involvement of CD Projekt Red, FromSoftware, and Capcom appears to have changed the trend, with preferential treatment like the commemorative Pro Controller 2 for FromSoftware serving as evidence of that shift. Meanwhile, specific figures such as “Elden Ring sold 20.5 million copies on Steam versus just 30,000 on Switch 2” circulated in the thread, but it should be noted that these are individual posters’ claims, not officially tallied or announced sales figures. The discussion split into two main points of contention: first, whether the rise in third-party support should be seen as a sign of Nintendo hardware’s growing strength, or simply as an additional porting destination; second, the quality of ports (the so-called “downgraded versions”) and the merits of moving away from physical discs — a push led by other platforms — which brought the usual platform rivalries along with it.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry (Geha)) thread “[Good News] Switch 2 Ends Up Attracting Third Parties’ Latest Titles Despite Being Nintendo Hardware.”

  • NY Yen Hits ¥154.36, Driven by BOJ Officials’ Remarks and Hotter US PPI

    In New York foreign exchange trading on the 10th, the yen weakened 88 sen from the previous day to trade at 154.36–46 yen per dollar. On 5ch’s “Breaking News+” board, posters pointed to a string of hawkish-sounding remarks from Bank of Japan officials — Policy Board member Hajime Takata, Finance Minister Katayama, and Policy Board member Kazuyuki Masu — as the driver behind yen buying, while expectations of a Fed rate hike also grew on views that US PPI (Producer Price Index) data would come in hotter than expected, and crude oil hit a four-month high, making for a tangle of competing factors. Just two days earlier, the board had been buzzing about the yen nearing the 150 mark, so some were surprised the move even counted as “breaking news” at this level, while others predicted the BOJ would hike rates three times in a row — opinions split on whether the yen would keep weakening or reverse into strength.

    September 11, 2026, 06:26 AM, Kyodo News

    [NEW YORK, Kyodo] The yen stood at 154.36–46 per dollar as of 5:00 p.m. in New York trading on the 10th, down 88 sen from the previous day.

    Source: 47news.jp / Original article here

    7AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:26
    Well, of course.

    [European Central Bank] ECB decides on 0.25% rate hike, responding to inflation prolonged by high resource prices [Flea Market★]
    https://asahi.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1789050624/
    49AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:36
    Re: #7
    So Europe's hiking too because of rising resource prices?
    Oil's been creeping up too — before you know it, it's over $100.

    No wonder expectations for a BOJ hike are fading.
    Might not do anything unless they surprise everyone with something like a 0.5% hike.
    55AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:37
    Re: #7
    The Fed's got hike expectations building too.
    Apparently it all hinges on today's CPI release.
    Meanwhile Trump's over there screaming for rate cuts.
    21AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:31
    Whoa, that jumped fast. What happened?
    34AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:33
    Re: #21
    US PPI came in hotter than expected, so odds of a US rate hike went up.
    68AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:40
    Re: #21
    It's verbal intervention from the BOJ.
    They hinted they'd keep hiking without worrying about pace.

    They specifically rolled out hawk Takata to hold a press conference.
    Then Finance Minister Katayama piled on with comments to reinforce it lol
    And then even the BOJ's Masu came out pushing for back-to-back hikes too.

    So now the odds of three straight rate hikes look pretty high,
    and money started front-running that by buying yen.
    37AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:33
    Bessent chewed them out, but Japan doesn't seem all that motivated, does it.
    38AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:33
    This isn't really something to laugh about though…
    47AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:35
    Re: #38
    It's a joke, alright.
    Doesn't affect regular people anyway.
    56AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:37
    Re: #38
    Does that mean less work?
    67AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:39
    Japanese retail investors have sold ¥4.4 trillion worth of yen, betting against a stronger yen — if the yen keeps climbing, forced loss-cuts (margin liquidations) could follow ★3 [No Thanks★]
    https://asahi.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1789002546/
    78AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:42
    Re: #67
    So the Japanese people — who of all people should understand Japan's situation best — are the ones who trust the yen the least…
    80AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:43
    Well, Japan's just going to have to earn its keep through manufacturing — and not just the auto industry.
    108AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:48
    Re: #80
    So, right on schedule, dump the currency and go fight Bangladesh's sandal industry? Except our standard of living ends up Bangladesh-level too.
    112AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:50
    Re: #80
    With the weak yen, Japanese engineers look like an even better bargain to China too, so manufacturing is fated to lose out to China anyway.
    84AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:43
    See, told you — buy dollars and it just snaps right back to a stronger yen. I'd rather it just settle around 150.
    92AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:45
    Re: #84
    Oh wait, it didn't snap back lol, I was off by a yen lol
    89AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:45
    [Breaking] US crude closes above $102, a four-month high [Flea Market★]
    https://asahi.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1789079368/
    99AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:46
    Re: #89
    Saved a bit there by the yen ticking up slightly — yeah, a stronger yen really is better.
    97AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:46
    No matter how hard Bessent works at it, nothing's going to change unless someone reins in Trump's recklessness. And the Iran war doesn't look like it's ending anytime soon either.
    101AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:47
    Re: #97
    The Fed's hawkish too, after all.
    126AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:51
    20 trillion yen spent just to make the rich even richer — it's a money game, I can't stop laughing. All FX trading does is turn the rich into the ultra-rich. Ordinary Japanese citizens are just fertilizer for a handful of wealthy people. Beyond that, we're just machines for paying taxes. Keep working for the rich, everyone. And politicians get to sit up high enjoying the show as prices keep climbing and everyone suffers.
    139AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:53
    Re: #126
    I don't think that's right, but if you really believe it, why not do it yourself? You could trade FX too, couldn't you.
    142AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:54
    Re: #126
    They didn't hand out 20 trillion yen to anyone — they just exchanged dollars for yen.
    130AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:52
    Re: #68
    What are you even talking about? That's a factor for yen strength. This time it suddenly weakened.
    150AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:55
    Re: #130
    Nobody's calling it "the yen weakened!!" just because it went
    153 yen
    ↓
    154 yen.

    The real picture is:
    160 yen
    ↓
    now looking stable around a stronger 153 yen or so.
    167AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:59
    Re: #150
    Morning, newbie.
    162AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:58
    Re: #150
    Sounds like someone who doesn't know the markets well. A single yen is a big move in FX, and the sudden yen weakening was already old news from over a week ago.
    178AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:00
    Re: #162
    Re: #167
    Just watch — three rate hikes in a row and it'll swing even further toward a stronger yen lol
    181AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:01
    Re: #178
    That confident, huh? Must be a time traveler. Screenshotting this for later! (a 5ch meme: saving a bold prediction to mock the poster later if it's wrong)

    Background and Key Points on This Story

    A one-yen move in the exchange rate isn’t unusual in itself, but this time BOJ Policy Board member Hajime Takata was followed by Finance Minister Satsuki Katayama and Policy Board member Kazuyuki Masu, all making remarks that could be read as leaning toward further rate hikes — fueling market speculation that the BOJ will push ahead with multiple additional hikes without worrying about pace. Meanwhile on the US side, expectations of a Fed rate hike are also in play following hotter-than-expected PPI data, so competing assumptions about monetary policy on both sides of the Pacific are keeping the exchange rate on edge. Since the thread had, just two days earlier, been buzzing about the yen nearing a break below 150, there was a noticeable gap in tone between posters surprised that 154 yen even counted as “breaking news” and those who saw it as still within ordinary yen-weakness territory. The thread also cited another discussion noting that retail investors’ short-yen positions have been swelling, with some warning of the risk of forced margin liquidations if the yen suddenly strengthens.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (“Breaking News+”) thread “[Breaking] NY Yen, ¥154.36–46.”

  • Wheat Sell-Off Price Jumps 12% — 5ch: “It’s Only Cheap Because of Tax Subsidies”

    On the 9th, the Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries announced that the government’s selling price for imported wheat, effective from October, will rise 12% compared to the April–September 2026 period, to ¥70,020 per ton (weighted average of five brands). The main drivers are said to be rising international prices and a weaker yen, and this could add pressure to raise prices on wheat-based foods like bread and noodles. On the thread, some pointed to the stalled Ukraine peace talks pushing up international prices, as well as the mechanism by which the government props up import wheat prices using tax money, while others linked it to the shift away from rice or noted that bread prices stayed flat during past price-cut phases — leaving reactions to the hike divided.

    On the 9th, the Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries announced that the government’s selling price for imported wheat from October will be ¥70,020 per ton (weighted average of five brands), a 12% increase from the April–September 2026 period.

    Nikkei

    Source: nikkei.com / Original article here

    5AnonymousSep 11, 2026 02:59
    RIP pasta folks
    8AnonymousSep 11, 2026 03:04
    Re: #5
    Isn't pasta made overseas safe? This is about domestic wheat.
    211AnonymousSep 11, 2026 06:50
    Re: #8
    Wheat prices are up like 40% on the global market, so it's worse overseas than in Japan, isn't it?
    6AnonymousSep 11, 2026 03:01
    These guys won't buy rice… fine, let's jack up wheat instead!
    107AnonymousSep 11, 2026 05:30
    Re: #6
    Seriously, I bet that's exactly it.
    112AnonymousSep 11, 2026 05:38
    Re: #6
    Oh, they wanna go there? Fine then — I'll refuse to buy rice out of pure spite. First, let's tear down the rice industry. All-out war it is!
    10AnonymousSep 11, 2026 03:11
    The Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries — absolute traitors. This is obviously a retaliatory price hike because rice isn't selling. These guys really are the enemy of the people.
    47AnonymousSep 11, 2026 04:12
    Re: #10
    "Retaliatory price hike"… imported wheat is only cheap because of government subsidies. If trading companies were just buying it outright, it'd never be anywhere near rice prices. Japan gets subsidies from the government for both oil and wheat — that's the only reason we can buy at today's prices. Cargo ships are also taking longer routes now. With fuel and labor costs both soaring, selling at the same old price just means the strain gets dumped somewhere else. Is that really okay?
    20AnonymousSep 11, 2026 03:30
    Guess that's the end of the road for rice-substitute demand. Might as well go back to rice.
    86AnonymousSep 11, 2026 05:13
    Re: #20
    Still way cheaper than rice, and cooking rice is a hassle and takes forever.
    25AnonymousSep 11, 2026 03:34
    Production is down across Europe and the US due to drought. Australia's apparently struggling too, so udon will go up as well. Well, we've got a rice surplus so no big deal.
    27AnonymousSep 11, 2026 03:37
    Re: #25
    Wrong. Prices rose because it's looking more likely the Ukraine-Russia peace talks will hit a dead end. On top of that, some idiot (Japan) showed up to buy while deliberately tanking their own currency, so of course they got charged a premium. China, after all, is happily buying up huge quantities. When someone with no money shows up, of course they get taken for a ride.
    33AnonymousSep 11, 2026 03:47
    The price spiked to ¥76,000 back in 2022, then gradually dropped about 20% over recent years, and now it's just ticked up a bit from that low. Retailers already jacked up product prices plenty when it hit its peak, and never lowered them even when the government selling price came back down — but the second it ticks up slightly, it's an instant price hike?
    46AnonymousSep 11, 2026 04:10
    Re: #33
    Back in 2022 the yen was around 110-140 to the dollar, you know.
    41AnonymousSep 11, 2026 04:04
    It really has to be rice after all. Rice, millet, foxtail millet, and buckwheat — that's what suits the Japanese body.
    43AnonymousSep 11, 2026 04:05
    Rice farmers are shutting down at a record pace, and now wheat's spiking too. What are Japanese people supposed to do? Just die happily while basking in the weak yen?
    77AnonymousSep 11, 2026 05:03
    Re: #43
    Yesterday's news said rice farmer closures this year are at a record pace, but it was a clickbait headline — turned out to be just 32 cases nationwide.
    78AnonymousSep 11, 2026 05:04
    Re: #43
    That garbage article about "32 closures from January to August" was something else. I wonder how many rice farms are even left in Japan.
    59AnonymousSep 11, 2026 04:41
    This is gonna push bread prices up. Last time wheat prices rose, sweet buns and the like went up 10-20 yen across the board.
    74AnonymousSep 11, 2026 04:59
    Re: #59
    Even after the Ukraine war, the government's import wheat selling price kept dropping, but Yamazaki Bread kept raising prices anyway. So what else is new.
    62AnonymousSep 11, 2026 04:45
    Keep eating your bread and pasta loaded with glyphosate! You don't need rice, right? (lol)
    65AnonymousSep 11, 2026 04:48
    Re: #62
    Poor people have no choice but to eat it anyway.
    73AnonymousSep 11, 2026 04:56
    Is there anyone in this thread actually saying rice doesn't need to be grown domestically?
    82AnonymousSep 11, 2026 05:07
    Re: #73
    Before that — do we even need to eat it at all? There are plenty of other things that can serve as a staple. We should've learned that from the rice price hikes.
    80AnonymousSep 11, 2026 05:05
    But you're still gonna eat bread and pasta, right? That's literally what you guys were saying lol
    99AnonymousSep 11, 2026 05:25
    Re: #80
    We're not in the employment ice age anymore working for 800 yen an hour, so 5ch users these days aren't exactly hurting for cash.
    91AnonymousSep 11, 2026 05:18
    It's over, nya. Guess I'll live on potatoes, nya.
    94AnonymousSep 11, 2026 05:22
    Re: #91
    Steamed potatoes topped with shiokara (salted fermented seafood) are delicious.
    202AnonymousSep 11, 2026 06:46
    Wheat products are cheap only because the government keeps dumping tax money into imported wheat to suppress the price. Also, American rice has already jumped 60% this year alone and is set to spike even further. Saying "just import our staple food then" is beyond stupid.
    206AnonymousSep 11, 2026 06:49
    Re: #202
    Wheat is already dependent on imports to begin with, though.
    207AnonymousSep 11, 2026 06:49
    Re: #202
    So scrapping the tariffs should be fine then, right?

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    Imported wheat isn’t bought by private trading companies but purchased in bulk by the government, under a “state trading” system that revises the government selling price twice a year (April and October) to reflect recent international prices and exchange rates. This is a holdover from the postwar food control system, meant to supply the domestic milling and baking industries with wheat at stable prices. This time’s 12% increase results from international prices staying elevated amid uncertainty over the situation in Ukraine, combined with a weaker yen — it isn’t simply a matter of tight supply and demand. It’s also worth noting that a higher selling price doesn’t necessarily translate into an equivalent rise in retail prices — in fact, there have been past cases where retail prices for bread and similar goods stayed flat even as the selling price dropped — and it’s easy to overlook that cost structures involve factors beyond wheat itself, like labor and logistics costs.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “Government wheat selling price raised 12%, reflecting high international prices and a weak yen — could increase pressure to raise prices on bread and noodles.”

  • “Mrs. GREEN APPLE Is Creepy,” Says Post Attributed to Music Critic — Fans Split, Existence Unconfirmed

    A post claiming to be from a “music critic” who called Mrs. GREEN APPLE “creepy” became a hot topic on 5ch. But no one could find the poster’s account or the original post, and searching the critic’s name turned up no matching person, so suspicion that it was an “AI-generated image” surfaced early in the thread. With the truth never pinned down, the conversation drifted away from the critic’s remark itself and into a taste debate over how to judge Mrs. GREEN APPLE’s songs and the vocalist’s singing ability.

    What are we even supposed to do with this

    Source: imgur.com / Original post here

    2AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:15
    If it sells, it's good.
    If it doesn't sell, it's not.
    Simple as that.
    90AnonymousSep 11, 2026 01:54
    Re: #2
    Eh, that's not quite right either
    7AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:23
    I think it's creepy too, but that's not exactly the word choice of a critic
    18AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:30
    Re: #7
    "Creepy" isn't a critique, though
    23AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:32
    Can't find the account or the post anywhere
    155AnonymousSep 11, 2026 02:46
    Re: #23
    Ah, so that's what's going on
    192AnonymousSep 11, 2026 03:09
    Re: #23
    There's zero trace of it ever going viral,
    so it's definitely an AI-generated image
    37AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:43
    Searched "music critic Ryosuke Takahashi" and nothing comes up
    157AnonymousSep 11, 2026 02:47
    Re: #37
    So it was an AI image after all
    What a waste of time
    51AnonymousSep 11, 2026 01:02
    The songs aren't creepy though
    His personality is unbelievably creepy, though
    56AnonymousSep 11, 2026 01:04
    Re: #51
    Sorry, not trying to troll or play contrarian here, but I honestly think the songs are super creepy too
    63AnonymousSep 11, 2026 01:14
    His singing ability is the strongest of any active artist, though
    Can't speak for the songs
    64AnonymousSep 11, 2026 01:15
    Re: #63
    Nah, if anything his singing ability is on the weaker side
    It's the kind amateurs can all imitate easily
    65AnonymousSep 11, 2026 01:15
    Haven't listened to music released after Onyanko Club (a famous 1980s idol group), save for a few exceptions
    Please, Yuyu, show yourself (nickname of one of the group's members)
    67AnonymousSep 11, 2026 01:17
    Re: #65
    Yuyu has an Instagram, right?
    100AnonymousSep 11, 2026 02:09
    That kind of sound like Mrs. GREEN APPLE just doesn't land with guys
    102AnonymousSep 11, 2026 02:13
    Re: #100
    People who like it, like it
    That's just a difference in taste, nothing to say there

    What's not okay is idiots who dress up their personal likes/dislikes as objective good/bad
    This "critic" (lol) is exactly that
    106AnonymousSep 11, 2026 02:18
    Re: #100
    Kind of depends on the person, honestly
    101AnonymousSep 11, 2026 02:10
    Back in school I said "don't all Mrs. GREEN APPLE songs sound the same?" and after that I stopped getting invited to seminar drinking parties
    When I asked why, I got "the girls vetoed it because of that comment. Sorry, man."
    That's basically a religion at this point…
    104AnonymousSep 11, 2026 02:14
    Re: #101
    You don't get the "people who like it, like it" thing

    I know full well the rock I love is seen as an old-fashioned hobby these days
    so I don't go pushing it on anyone

    My parents were classical-music zealots who rejected rock entirely, and yeah, that was rough
    107AnonymousSep 11, 2026 02:19
    Re: #101
    Honestly, both sides are a little at fault there
    114AnonymousSep 11, 2026 02:24
    What even is a "creepy" song?
    Makes no sense to me
    123AnonymousSep 11, 2026 02:27
    Re: #114
    Yeah, fair point
    119AnonymousSep 11, 2026 02:26
    Discovering Onyanko Club in high school was pure happiness
    Nothing will ever hit me that hard again
    These days it's just weird, nonsensical songs coming out anyway, not that I even listen anymore
    128AnonymousSep 11, 2026 02:28
    Re: #119
    I can't wrap my head around Onyanko Club
    131AnonymousSep 11, 2026 02:29
    Re: #128
    For me it's basically Onyanko Club vs. everything else
    Onyanko Club is genuinely on a different level
    138AnonymousSep 11, 2026 02:32
    Re: #131
    Guess everyone's got their own thing

    For me personally, "Obus" was the shocker

    That's when I finally got what "so uncool it's cool" means
    139AnonymousSep 11, 2026 02:32
    Re: #131
    Mannaka Mokkori Wednesday (a nonsensical meme-ish phrase, roughly "Bulging Middle Wednesday")
    137AnonymousSep 11, 2026 02:31
    You guys aren't getting it
    The real irony here is that a "music critic" couldn't come up with anything beyond "creepy" without ever touching on the actual musicality

    In other words, there was nothing musically worth evaluating in the first place
    142AnonymousSep 11, 2026 02:33
    Re: #137
    Sounds like they just lacked the ability to evaluate anything
    Just some idiot calling themselves a critic.
    143AnonymousSep 11, 2026 02:33
    Re: #137
    We don't even know if this "critic" is a credible person in the first place, so hard to say
    151AnonymousSep 11, 2026 02:42
    Honestly, a chunk of this thread's own conversation might be AI too
    153AnonymousSep 11, 2026 02:45
    Re: #151
    🤖YOU.HAVE.SEEN.THROUGH.ME.WELL (written in katakana to sound like a robot talking)
    193AnonymousSep 11, 2026 03:12
    Re: #151
    Good catch

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Mrs. GREEN APPLE is a major band with a large, loyal fanbase, but it’s also a group whose vocalist’s high register and androgynous look have repeatedly sparked love-it-or-hate-it debates on social media. The “music critic” post that kicked off this thread couldn’t be traced to any account or original post no matter how thread members searched, and with “not even a trace of it going viral,” posters questioned whether the critic existed at all. There’s a familiar pattern online of posts inventing a fake expert title to make inflammatory comments, which then spread via aggregator sites — and once again, an AI-generated image was suspected here. What’s easy for readers to miss is that the core premise — “a critic trashed Mrs. GREEN APPLE” — was never actually confirmed, even at the 5ch stage; by the second half of the thread, the debate had moved past whether the remark was real and split off into its own separate argument over the songs themselves and opinions on the vocalist’s distinctive style.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Sad News] Music Critic: “Mrs. GREEN APPLE Is Creepy” ← Massive Backlash.”

  • Dining-Out Tax Rate Frozen: 5ch Reacts — ‘Customer Numbers Could Drop Over 20%’

    The government plans to cut the consumption tax rate on food and beverages from 8% to 1% for two years starting in April 2027, but the rate for dining out will stay frozen at 10%. Mitsushi Mukumoto, chairman of the Japan Food Service Association, warned this would have “a negative impact on people’s motivation to eat out,” fearing customer numbers could fall by more than 20%, just as they did when the reduced tax rate was introduced in 2019. In the thread, posters kept talking past each other over how the tax system actually works — specifically, how much consumption tax restaurants really bear on their purchases — and doubts were raised about how effective the meal-voucher scheme reportedly being considered by the Prime Minister’s Office would actually be.

    Reactions to support measures for farmers and restaurants tied to the consumption tax cut are split by industry. The agricultural sector, whose requests were reflected in the plan, has welcomed it, while the restaurant industry has voiced frustration that the demand-boosting measures it wanted were left out.

    The government plans to lower the consumption tax rate on food and beverages from 8% to 1% for a limited two years starting in April 2027, while keeping the rate for dining out frozen at 10%. There’s concern that the widening gap versus the 1% rate for bento boxes and prepared foods will drive customers away.

    Mitsushi Mukumoto, chairman of the Japan Food Service Association (Minato, Tokyo), an industry group representing restaurant businesses, said at a press conference on the 10th, “What worries me most is that this will hurt people’s motivation to eat out.” Citing the fallout from 2019, when dining out was excluded from the reduced tax rate, he said, “Some expect customer numbers to drop by more than 20%.”

    Source: nikkei.com / Original article here

    6AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:06
    Ingredient costs are going down, so just tough it out with that.
    46AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:16
    Re: #6
    How many times do I have to say it — it's NOT going down…
    10AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:07
    Since wholesale prices are dropping, they should just lower their prices.
    23AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:11
    Re: #10
    Don't they still have to pay tax on the 9-point gap between 1% and 10%?
    14AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:08
    More importantly, someone needs to keep an eye on whether restaurants actually pass along the savings from cheaper food purchases under this tax cut. These guys are definitely going to use it as cover to jack up prices.
    97AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:54
    Re: #14
    I work at a major restaurant chain, and apparently the tax treatment of big chains' food purchases is different from regular grocery shopping. This was explained in one of DPP leader Yuichiro Tamaki's videos too. Just because the tax rate on groceries drops for regular consumers under this reform doesn't mean restaurant chains' purchase costs drop the same way.
    50AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:18
    Re: #46
    So how does that actually get handled?
    55AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:20
    Re: #50
    Restaurants never actually had to bear the consumption tax on their purchases to begin with — doesn't matter if it's 8% or 1%, same either way.
    63AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:24
    Re: #55
    What are you talking about? Restaurants pay consumption tax when they buy food too, don't they?
    57AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:22
    Their purchase costs go down though, right?
    67AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:25
    Re: #57
    It does go down if the restaurant is tax-exempt or uses simplified taxation, but for the majority under standard taxation, it effectively doesn't.
    69AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:26
    Re: #67
    What do you mean it "effectively doesn't go down"? Explain in detail.
    83AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:41
    Re: #63 Re: #67
    Say the tax rate is 8% and you buy a daikon radish priced at ¥100 before tax. You hand the supplier ¥108, but along with the daikon you also get an invoice showing you paid ¥8 in consumption tax.
    The ¥100-for-daikon swap gets booked as an expense,
    but the ¥8-for-invoice swap just changes the form of an asset —
    because "tax paid in advance" is itself an "asset."

    The invoice works like a voucher you can use when paying consumption tax to the tax office (= the purchase tax credit)
    (in practice you don't submit them one by one, but that's the principle)
    and if you don't use it all up, it gets converted back into cash or a bank deposit (= a refund).
    So even though it looks like you're "paying consumption tax" to your supplier, your company's assets never actually shrink, not even for an instant.
    68AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:25
    The Prime Minister's Office's meal-voucher concept

    ●Meant for use at izakayas and similar spots:
    Beer voucher booklet — ¥20 each, 11 per booklet
    Snack voucher booklet — ¥40 each, 11 per booklet
    (each a one-year supply)

    ●Meant for use at restaurants and similar spots:
    ¥60-off vouchers, 11 per booklet
    (a one-year supply)

    Roughly designed to offset
    the 9-point gap versus the grocery tax rate
    72AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:27
    Re: #68
    The printing costs for these vouchers are probably higher than their face value lol
    133AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:22
    Re: #68
    "A year's worth" — so that means 365 sets?
    87AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:42
    Re: #69
    Standard taxation:
    Subtract the consumption tax paid on purchases from the consumption tax collected on sales, and remit the difference to the government.

    Sales tax ¥100 − purchase tax ¥40 = ¥60 (tax owed)

    Simplified taxation:
    Each industry is assigned a "deemed purchase ratio."
    You multiply the sales tax by that ratio to estimate the tax paid on purchases.

    Sales tax − sales tax × (1−0.6) = ¥40 (tax owed)


    If this goes ahead as is, businesses under simplified taxation end up deducting a purchase-tax amount they never actually paid.
    In reality they should owe 100−0=¥100,
    but they get away with paying just ¥40. That's the problem.
    89AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:45
    Re: #87
    Correction:

    Standard taxation:
    Subtract the consumption tax paid on purchases from the consumption tax collected on sales, and remit the difference to the government.

    Sales tax ¥100 − purchase tax ¥60 = ¥40 (tax owed)

    Simplified taxation:
    Each industry is assigned a "deemed purchase ratio."
    You multiply the sales tax by that ratio to estimate the tax paid on purchases.

    Sales tax − sales tax × (1−0.6) = ¥40 (tax owed)


    If this goes ahead as is, businesses under simplified taxation end up deducting a purchase-tax amount they never actually paid.
    In reality they should owe 100−0=¥100,
    but they only end up remitting ¥40. That's the problem.
    93AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:49
    Re: #89
    So you're saying there are cases where restaurants under simplified taxation actually owe more than the consumption tax they never paid?
    96AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:53
    Re: #89
    In principle they'd need to temporarily change the deemed purchase ratios for restaurants and farming under simplified taxation, but I haven't heard anything about that happening this time.
    When the reduced tax rate was introduced, the ratio for farming was changed from 70% to 80%…
    99AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:55
    Re: #93
    It's the opposite.

    Big companies use standard taxation:
    ¥100 consumption tax collected on sales
    ¥0 consumption tax paid on purchases (paid nothing)
    So they remit ¥100 — that's normal.

    A restaurant on simplified taxation:
    ¥100 consumption tax collected on sales
    ¥0 consumption tax paid on purchases (paid nothing)
    But somehow only needs to remit ¥60.

    At least, that's how it'll work if nothing changes.
    100AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:58
    Re: #99
    Is the deemed purchase ratio for restaurants under simplified taxation 60%?
    101AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:58
    Remember how hotels jacked up their rates during the Go To Travel campaign and it became a huge controversy? They're just going to pull the same move — there's zero chance they actually lower prices.
    103AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:59
    Re: #101
    Just like back then — throw subsidies at it and they'll just raise prices even more.
    102AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:58
    Re: #96
    That's exactly why I figured they weren't planning to do it — so is it actually happening?
    107AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:02
    Re: #102
    No idea. They probably won't touch the deemed purchase ratio, I'd guess.
    121AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:12
    It's a luxury — why does it need subsidizing at all?
    135AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:23
    Re: #121
    Honestly, every restaurant except the ones serving inbound tourists and the elite can go under. People are struggling with poverty like this — there's no way they can afford to eat out as a luxury.
    144AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:36
    Anyway, why doesn't everyone just cook at home?
    146AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:38
    Re: #144
    Probably because they've got money to spare.
    147AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:40
    Re: #144
    It's a hassle, they don't know how, they're too tired to bother — I think it's a mix of things.
    Personally I mostly eat out when work's busy, and switch to cooking at home when I've got time off.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Under Japan’s consumption tax system, most restaurants calculate what they owe using either “standard taxation” or “simplified taxation” (based on a deemed purchase ratio), so a drop in wholesale prices doesn’t automatically mean a lower tax bill. When the reduced tax rate was introduced in 2019, the deemed purchase ratio for farming was raised from 70% to 80%, but no equivalent adjustment for the restaurant industry has been announced this time. The thread’s disagreement essentially comes down to whether posters correctly understand this “purchase tax credit” mechanism. There’s also persistent concern, rooted in the price hikes that plagued the earlier Go To Travel campaign, that a voucher-style handout could invite similar opportunistic price increases. It’s worth noting this report comes at a stage when the policy details are still unsettled, and how the actual support measures get designed will depend on further discussion ahead.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt/summary from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “Support Measures for the Food Consumption Tax Cut — Restaurant Industry Calls for “Introducing Meal Vouchers”“.

  • Comedian Nishikawa Norio Claims Masuzoe Rakes In ¥1.2 Million an Hour — Co-Host Skeptical of the High Fee

    Veteran manzai comedian Nishikawa Norio (75) revealed on an ABC Radio program aired on the 10th that, according to what he heard from a promoter, former Tokyo Governor Yoichi Masuzoe “gets paid 1.2 million yen for a single hour” in speaking fees. Masuda, who was interviewing him, questioned the claim’s accuracy, saying “Isn’t that just a rumor?” — but Norio stood by it, insisting, “I heard it from a promoter.” On 5ch, opinion split over whether the figure was a TV appearance fee or a lecture fee, and the discussion also spread to why cultural pundits like Miyazaki Tetsuya, once TV regulars, are rarely seen on television these days.

    Nishikawa Norio Names Names on High-Paid Pundits — Co-Star Skeptical: “I Heard It From a Promoter”

    Veteran manzai duo Nishikawa Norio and Kamigata Yoshio’s Nishikawa Norio (75) appeared on ABC Radio’s “Masuda Okada Masuda no Radio Hunter” (Thursdays at noon) on the 10th. The conversation turned to the pay of past cultural pundits, and he revealed who topped the list.

    On pundit pay, Norio revealed, “There’s (former Tokyo Governor) Yoichi Masuzoe, right? This is for real. He was pulling in 1.2 million yen an hour.” Masuda reacted with “Huh?!” and questioned its credibility, saying, “Isn’t that just a rumor?” Norio insisted, “It’s true, it’s true. I heard it from a promoter.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:36
    Guess I'll watch Peace-kun, the world's most famous capybara from Omiya Zoo, on YouTube and crack open a beer
    4AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:39
    Hashige, don't work with old media even if they pay you (nickname for former Osaka mayor Toru Hashimoto)
    5AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:41
    The 'pundit slot' rate is a flat 30,000 yen
    It's a completely different pay structure from what actual talent get
    They only use the people who won't settle for 30,000 yen

    To begin with, the media side has this above-it-all attitude of 'we're the ones letting you appear,'
    and assumes performers should be grateful enough to say 'please let me appear for free,'
    and come groveling to them

    That's just the custom — it's common sense in the industry
    18AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:48
    Re: #5
    So only the people who won't accept it end up appearing anyway — guess that makes it ¥1.7 million, huh
    52AnonymousSep 11, 2026 01:11
    Re: #5
    These days there's hardly any real 'pundits' left
    Ex-politicians, athletes, scholars — they're all
    signed with talent agencies now and get paid properly
    Hayashi Osamu even ranks in the top 10 on talent earnings rankings
    71AnonymousSep 11, 2026 01:39
    Re: #5
    What you're talking about is the TV fee. What Nishikawa Norio is talking about is the lecture fee
    7AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:43
    Yeah, you really don't see Miyazaki Tetsuya on TV anymore
    He shows up occasionally as a kind of host on Bunshun's YouTube channel though
    87AnonymousSep 11, 2026 02:12
    Re: #7
    Saw him for the first time in a while on the memorial special for Miwa-san
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HP7C0lGacAADjm_.jpg
    92AnonymousSep 11, 2026 02:20
    Re: #87
    Now that you mention it, yeah, don't see him
    He faded from view right along with people like Ogiwara and Katsuma, who you used to see a lot during the DPJ government era
    9AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:43
    Masuzoe used to appear on Soko Made Itte Iinkai (a political panel debate show), didn't he
    12AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:46
    Bon! Ain't that right, Bon!? (echoing an old TV catchphrase)
    13AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:46
    Now that I think about it, don't see Miyazaki Tetsuya anymore
    Did he screw something up?
    21AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:50
    Re: #13
    He kept criticizing the Ministry of Finance, so the media didn't want him around anymore
    66AnonymousSep 11, 2026 01:31
    Re: #13
    At one point people called him the heir apparent to Tahara Soichiro, and he even hosted Asa made Nama Terebi (a late-night political debate show), but he wasn't great at moderating
    Maybe it's coming back to bite him that he helped bring the DPJ to power
    20AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:50
    How much money does Gogosuma even cost to run
    35AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:57
    Re: #20
    The timing of Miyazaki disappearing and Kaneko-san starting as a commentator doesn't really overlap that much
    22AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:52
    I wonder how much the scholar-commentators on the various BS channels get paid. Koizumi, Tono, and Hyodo show up a ton for Ukraine coverage. For US topics, Meikai University's Kotani appears a lot too
    25AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:52
    I mean, it's fine if he gets that much
    At Yoichi Masuzoe's level, lecture fees of over a million yen are pretty much a given
    32AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:55
    Re: #25
    Now that you put it that way, yeah, that's true
    Lecture fees, that's just a normal single booking rate
    Not Masuzoe specifically — just an ordinary lecture fee
    33AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:56
    There's a debate show with Takemura Ken'ichi, Ishihara Shintaro, Sakaiya Taichi, and Watanabe Shoichi up on YouTube, go watch it
    It's from the 80s but it nails what Japan is like today spot on
    Norio was probably still watching Obake no Q-Taro back then lol
    34AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:57
    Miyazaki Tetsuya has really disappeared from TV
    A while back I thought 'haven't seen him lately' and looked it up — turns out he'd left shows like Seigi no Mikata and Soko Made Itte Iinkai
    36AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:57
    Even Horiemon charges at least 2 million yen minimum
    He's openly joked about it himself, like 'you think I'd work for a few tens of thousands? lol'
    37AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:58
    This is a lecture fee, right?
    Not TV
    42AnonymousSep 11, 2026 01:05
    Re: #37
    Probably
    And even if it were TV, Tokyo rates and Kansai rates are different anyway
    38AnonymousSep 11, 2026 01:01
    The ups and downs of money — he really loves money huh lol
    Kind of like Bando Eiji
    40AnonymousSep 11, 2026 01:03
    I bought a book this guy wrote, something like 'How to Save Your First Million Yen Fast'
    When I read it, it was just page after page about how to pinch pennies
    On the last page it said 'If you're the type who falls for a book title like this, you'll never save money' — I nearly fell over
    45AnonymousSep 11, 2026 01:06
    Re: #40
    Read it too lol threw it out right away lol
    76AnonymousSep 11, 2026 01:52
    Is Tetsu-chan not on that TV Tokyo Kanjani show anymore?
    Or the Kantele news program?
    I barely watch TV these days so I have no idea
    79AnonymousSep 11, 2026 01:58
    Re: #76
    He was definitely still on the TV Tokyo one a few months ago
    No idea about the Kansai show
    77AnonymousSep 11, 2026 01:53
    Norio used to bluntly call out even Takeshi
    Stuff like 'Whether it's Takeshi or Chinsuke,
    they both ditched their partners and went solo —
    what heartless guys.' I think this was right after Hyokinzoku ended
    80AnonymousSep 11, 2026 01:59
    Re: #77
    But Norio himself had half-abandoned his own partner too
    though maybe because he sensed he'd be useless in Tokyo once Hyokinzoku ended, he kept manzai as an escape route

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    TV commentator fees are generally said to be low, and the claim in the thread that “the pundit-slot rate is a flat 30,000 yen” is a figure that often gets cited as the going rate. Lecture fees for politicians and celebrities, on the other hand, are a completely different matter — for someone at the level of a former governor, fees of over a million yen per appearance are said to be far from unusual within the industry. The reason opinion in the thread split over whether Nishikawa Norio was talking about a TV appearance fee or a lecture fee comes down to this difference between the two separate pay structures. It’s also worth noting that Norio’s own claim is only secondhand — something he says he “heard from a promoter” — and the figure hasn’t actually been confirmed by either him or Masuzoe’s camp. The conversation also branched into why pundits who used to be TV regulars, like Miyazaki Tetsuya, have largely disappeared from television — but the proposed reasons (such as the theory that criticizing the Ministry of Finance was the cause) remain speculation, not established fact.

    ※This article is compiled as an excerpt/summary from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Entertainment] Nishikawa Norio Names Names on High-Paid Pundits — Co-Star Skeptical: “I Heard It From a Promoter”.”

  • Infectious Foot-and-Mouth Virus Found in Raw Goat Meat Smuggled from China — 5ch: “There’s Probably Plenty More Slipping Through”

    At animal quarantine in New Chitose Airport, an infectious strain of foot-and-mouth disease virus was detected in raw goat meat that a traveler from China had attempted to bring into Japan. This is the first time the virus has been found in meat seized during animal quarantine, and the Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries says the border check successfully kept it from entering the country. Foot-and-mouth disease is extremely contagious, and once it spreads to livestock, culling every animal on the affected farms becomes unavoidable — Miyazaki Prefecture saw a massive outbreak of it in 2010. On the thread, posters worried that other contaminated meat may already be slipping past quarantine, questioned why anyone would want to bring in raw meat in the first place, and pointed out inconsistencies in how quarantine is enforced compared to goods from other countries.

    Infectious Foot-and-Mouth Virus Found in Raw Goat Meat Brought from China — First Confirmed Case at New Chitose Airport Quarantine – Sankei News

    2026/9/10 15:31

    The Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries announced on the 10th that it had confirmed an infectious strain of foot-and-mouth disease virus in raw goat meat that a passenger from China attempted to bring into New Chitose Airport in January. This is the first time the virus has been found in meat or other items seized during animal quarantine. The meat was intercepted at the border, and officials say entry into the country was prevented.

    Source: sankei.com / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:53
    Bioterrorist
    92AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:09
    Re: #3
    A Chinese researcher stole raw, live Ebola virus from a Canadian research institute and was arrested by police for carrying it in hand luggage on an international passenger flight.
    It's also come out that researchers at Biopreparat, the Soviet bioweapons research agency, developed biological weapons targeting not just humans but crops and livestock too.
    234AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:40
    Re: #3
    That's not just drool from the guy who tried to smuggle it in, right?
    9AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:54
    Well, I guess that's Genghis Khan (Japanese grilled mutton dish) banned then
    149AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:20
    Re: #9
    The meat used for Genghis Khan is sheep, though (lol)
    10AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:54
    Why do they keep trying to bring in raw meat?
    14AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:55
    Re: #10
    Probably just because it's cheap? Especially since almost nowhere in Japan serves goat.
    33AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:58
    Re: #10
    Goat cuisine —
    like maybe they wanted to bring the ingredients for goat hot pot
    to cook for an acquaintance living in Japan or something

    Still nothing but a nuisance either way
    15AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:55
    Why would you even bring goat meat in the first place…
    144AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:19
    Re: #15
    If foot-and-mouth disease wipes out the livestock industry, that would weaken the Agriculture Ministry's clout too — isn't it more reasonable to assume the Finance Ministry put them up to it?
    155AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:22
    Re: #15
    When I was in Nagoya for work,
    a Chinese restaurant there just casually had grilled goat skewers on the menu

    Thought it looked unusual so I ordered it without much thought
    and it was unbelievably gamy, an absolute hell to eat

    Really makes you appreciate how well-raised Japan's domesticated beef, pork, and chicken are
    36AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:58
    Huh, they're actually publicizing news like this now?
    52AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:00
    Re: #36
    This comes up all the time on news specials and on shows like Toppa File
    Meat is completely banned, yet these idiot elites keep bringing it in anyway
    74AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:06
    Re: #36 The raw meat ban gets covered on the news and elsewhere pretty often
    And foot-and-mouth disease is serious enough that if even one cow at a farm gets infected, every cow there has to be culled within 24 hours
    145AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:20
    Re: #36
    Sounds like a hint at bioterrorism
    37AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:58
    Hold on, why's this even being shipped out… well, guess it's China, so…
    43AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:59
    Re: #37
    Correction: being brought in
    54AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:00
    The fact they caught this one means there's probably a lot more slipping through undetected
    63AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:04
    Re: #54
    Japan's inspectors are excellent
    The detection dogs are excellent
    The inspection equipment is state-of-the-art

    Meat is banned across the board, so the dogs catch it right away
    105AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:12
    This is probably how past foot-and-mouth outbreaks happened too —
    smuggled in through some lax regional airport
    134AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:18
    At least quarantine caught this one
    What's really scary is the stuff from the US that sails right through quarantine
    165AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:24
    Re: #134
    Bringing stuff in your suitcase while traveling — animal and plant quarantine is actually pretty porous
    Sausages from Germany, that kind of thing happens all the time
    147AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:20
    They crack down hard on Iberico pork imports from Spain, so why are they so timid about regulating stuff like this? Typical Seiwa-faction LDP.
    185AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:29
    Re: #147
    Iberico pork is something ordinary people actually eat, so they probably don't want to see the public enjoying it.
    By the way, the Iberico pork import ban has nothing to do with the LDP — it's decided by the Agriculture Ministry without any Diet deliberation.
    201AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:33
    Re: #147
    They're regulating it plenty hard — that's exactly why it's getting confiscated at the airport
    150AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:20
    Come on, it's not like they're Mongolian — nobody eats it raw
    It's not even spoiled, so is it really that big a deal?
    159AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:23
    Re: #150
    People are out there disinfecting the soles of their shoes everywhere, and you're this laid-back about it
    170AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:25
    "I'll bring in some goat meat!" ← how does that even happen…
    205AnonymousSep 10, 2026 18:33
    Re: #170
    "I'll bring in some goat meat (carrying a highly contagious virus)!"

    Put it that way, and it's not strange at all…

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Foot-and-mouth disease is a highly contagious viral illness that infects cloven-hoofed animals such as cattle, pigs, and goats; once infection is confirmed on a farm, standard practice is to cull essentially every animal there. When it broke out in Miyazaki Prefecture in 2010, roughly 290,000 animals were culled, dealing a major blow to the livestock industry. Japan bans bringing in meat as a rule and has continued intercepting it through animal quarantine, but this is the first time an infectious virus has been confirmed in seized meat — making it a case where the border controls actually worked. Some on the thread suspected the meat was brought in deliberately, but the article itself says nothing about the circumstances or motive behind it, so that remains pure speculation.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (News Express+) thread “Infectious Foot-and-Mouth Virus Found in Raw Goat Meat Brought from China — First Confirmed Case at New Chitose Airport Quarantine.”

  • “If You Don’t Like the Rent Hike, Don’t Live in Tokyo” — Why More Realtors Are Saying This

    A story about Tokyo rental housing is making waves on 5ch: tenants say landlords and realtors are pushing rent increases even outside the normal renewal period, and when tenants refuse, some are bluntly told, “If you don’t like it, don’t live in Tokyo.” Thread posters point to the weak yen, soaring repair costs, and a supply-demand imbalance as drivers of the hikes, while others countered with legal arguments — under Japan’s Land and House Lease Law, landlords can’t just raise rent unilaterally; an increase is only allowed if it brings the rent in line with the going rate in the area. Opinion was split on whether low-income residents can still afford to stay in the city.

    In recent years, it’s become the norm for tenants to face hard-nosed rent-hike negotiations from realtors when their apartment lease comes up for renewal. Now it seems cases are increasing where realtors push for a rent increase even when it isn’t renewal time at all.

    Apparently it’s no longer rare these days for tenants who refuse the increase to get hit with a harsh line like, “If you don’t like the rent hike, don’t live in Tokyo!” The story goes that realtors tend to take an especially hard line with younger tenants.

    So why are more and more realtors acting like this? The answer is remarkably simple.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    5AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:18
    The weak yen is brutal, man.
    Rent just keeps ballooning bigger and bigger.
    11AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:20
    Re: #5
    With intervention it's at 153 yen [to the dollar], so rent will come down too
    10AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:19
    Well of course
    Tokyo has the worst cost-of-living inflation in the country
    Landlords can't keep going without raising rent either
    16AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:21
    Re: #10
    They don't have to "keep going" — nobody asked them to be landlords in the first place
    28AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:25
    Just abolish every other prefecture and turn all of Japan into Tokyo — problem solved
    34AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:26
    You know how in front of some office building in Bunkyo Ward,
    right on the street, in the 1st-floor entrance or elevator hall —
    a shared space where any passerby can see straight in —

    companies just have their own delivery boxes piled up out in the open like that?
    It's starting to look more and more like some run-down tenement row. It's getting really bad.
    35AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:26
    The real estate bubble should be reined in, but a blunt regulation like the old "total volume regulation" (a lending cap on real estate loans used in the late-1980s bubble era) could cause a full-blown collapse if it's mishandled. Just legally mandating remote work to cut commuting demand alone would remove the need to live in Tokyo at all — everyone would spread out and the real estate market would settle down.
    53AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:30
    Re: #35
    Back in the bubble era, I recall the media was singing praises for [BOJ governor] Mieno's monetary tightening, the total-volume lending regulation, and the land value tax
    38AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:26
    But landlords in Japan can't just raise the rent on a whim, lol
    201AnonymousSep 11, 2026 01:09
    Re: #38
    If it's brought in line with the going rate in the area, a rent hike is allowed
    39AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:26
    Repair costs are going up too, and you can't just skip maintenance
    43AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:28
    Re: #39
    Well, even getting the repairs done at all would be an improvement — no matter how much money you offer, more and more cases are falling through because you just can't find tradespeople to do the work
    71AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:34
    Legally speaking, in Japan rent basically stays fixed at whatever amount was set at the start.

    Raising it partway through the lease is nearly impossible.
    It ultimately ends up in court, but a rent hike big enough to be worth the legal costs is pretty much unwinnable.
    And on top of that, the landlord's side keeps losing every one of those rulings.
    83AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:36
    Re: #71
    Same goes for leasehold rights — but that's basically like employment protection law, a last line of defense for the tenant
    158AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:58
    Re: #71
    Once we're in a rate-hike environment, that won't hold up so easily though
    79AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:36
    Supply and demand
    Sellers and buyers
    Right now sellers have the upper hand
    Eventually the tables will turn
    89AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:37
    Re: #79
    Tokyo's over-concentration is what's wrecking that balance — in Tokyo, even a place with terrible public safety, or somewhere the hazard maps say you really shouldn't live, still sells just fine
    106AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:40
    Low-income Japanese people basically can't afford to live in Tokyo anymore
    113AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:41
    Re: #106
    People whose family has owned a house in Tokyo since their grandparents' generation can just keep living there
    141AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:51
    Re: #106
    Just become a "kidult" (an adult who never moved out of their childhood bedroom) then
    152AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:56
    As a UR tenant (public rental housing corporation), I'm just watching this play out from a safe distance
    153AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:57
    The Tokyo metropolitan government should just subsidize it
    155AnonymousSep 11, 2026 00:58
    Re: #153
    This is [Governor] Koike's moment to prove herself
    165AnonymousSep 11, 2026 01:00
    Re: #153
    And you can be the one funding that subsidy
    200AnonymousSep 11, 2026 01:09
    When I was a student in Tokyo, there was a guy who pitched a tent on campus for all four years and used his club's facilities to shower — and he graduated like that
    218AnonymousSep 11, 2026 01:17
    Re: #200
    In the mid-Heisei era (roughly the 1990s) there was a college student living in a run-down wooden apartment: a single 3-tatami-mat room, no bath, shared toilet and kitchen. In Tokyo, of course
    229AnonymousSep 11, 2026 01:21
    Re: #200
    Way back in the day, apparently some guys actually lived in their club room. Unthinkable now — though some auditing students living in a certain university's dorm today aren't that different

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Behind this story is a structural problem: Tokyo’s housing supply isn’t keeping up with demand, compounded by the weak yen driving up construction and repair costs. What split opinion in the thread wasn’t so much whether rent hikes are justified, but how much protection a tenant who refuses actually has — commenters noted that under Japan’s Land and House Lease Law, a landlord cannot unilaterally raise rent; an increase is only recognized after comparison with local market rates or, ultimately, a court ruling. One point readers often misunderstand is that a rent-hike demand at lease renewal and one pushed outside the renewal window are legally different situations — the latter tends to hinge much more on the realtor’s negotiating leverage. The thread also touched on finer points like whether low-income households can keep living in the city, and the difference between UR housing and public housing.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “Why more realtors are lately saying, “If you don’t like the rent hike, don’t live in Tokyo!”“