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  • Digital Agency Hacked, 246,000 Records Leaked — 5ch: ‘Guess We’re Proving We’re a Digital Backwater After All’

    The Digital Agency announced on September 11, 2026, that its network systems had been accessed by an unauthorized outside party, and that the personal information of roughly 246,000 people — including the names, addresses, email addresses, and phone numbers of government employees — may have been leaked. The agency says My Number data and financial account information were not included. On 5ch, threads shared information suggesting the breach was caused by the misuse of an account belonging to an outsourced contractor responsible for system maintenance, while other posters criticized the Digital Agency’s institutional setup and debated just how far the real-world damage from the leak might extend.

    The Digital Agency announced on the 11th that its network systems, including work computers it operates, had been accessed by an outside party without authorization, and that the personal information of roughly 246,000 people, including the names and addresses of government employees, may have leaked.

    The personal information that may have leaked included not only names and addresses but also email addresses and phone numbers. The agency says it does not include My Number data or bank account information.

    The Digital Agency apologized, saying, “We are truly sorry for the great trouble and concern this has caused those involved.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article

    5AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:02
    Ugh, this is gonna end up in the hands of a tokuryu gang (loosely organized, anonymous crime rings recruited via social media).
    6AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:02
    Guess we're proving we're a digital backwater all by ourselves
    58AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:25
    Re: #6
    Oh, so developed countries never get hacked?
    8AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:03
    About 246,000 government employees, huh…
    Are there even that many people working there?
    9AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:03
    Well, this is an organization where you get praised just for being able to use a smartphone.
    10AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:03
    Re: #4
    No point beefing up security — this was probably on purpose.
    16AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:05
    Pathetic. Some 'Digital Agency.' Just disband the whole thing.
    17AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:05
    Make Anno the director and let him bring in his own people.
    21AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:07
    Our Digital Agency is useless at everything except plugging and unplugging USB drives.
    22AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:07
    Put someone competent in charge, like Taiwan did.
    23AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:07
    Well, as usual, nobody's gonna take responsibility for it lol
    26AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:10
    The fact that they can even detect traces of a possible leak is pretty impressive — real progress for them.
    56AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:22
    Re: #26
    Might be the usual pattern where the US tips them off with 'hey, your data got stolen.' Didn't that happen before too?
    28AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:10
    >Personal information of roughly 246,000 people, including names and addresses of government employees, may have leaked

    Oh, this one's bad…
    29AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:10
    They got into the network and only employee info leaked? Isn't that a little too convenient?
    30AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:10
    This is what a country taken over by the mafia looks like.
    31AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:10
    Apparently it's about 90% of full-time staff. Though that number might include family members too, so the breakdown isn't clear.
    32AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:11
    The Digital Agency chief's getting fired as a scapegoat lol. There's probably a mole among the bureaucrats or something.
    33AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:12
    Well, it's a country that runs on AWS, so…
    34AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:13
    Figured this would happen eventually. My Number data's probably getting stolen too, sooner or later.
    35AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:13
    Not only useless, they're actively spreading damage around.
    38AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:14
    Replacing everyone with AI would probably work better.
    41AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:16
    Is there anything this country can actually do properly? And honestly, they've probably leaked ordinary citizens' info too.
    42AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:16
    The email leak is the worst part honestly — inbox is gonna get buried in spam.
    44AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:18
    There's no way you can trust a My Number system run by a country like this. And sure enough it went and became mandatory — this country's finished.
    45AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:18
    If a foreign power buys this up, we'll probably end up as a target when Judgment Day comes.
    47AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:18
    This info's probably gonna end up with a tokuryu gang eventually.
    50AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:21
    Guess it's better that it's not ransomware… or wait, is ransomware part of this too?
    52AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:21
    Still, thanks to the Digital Agency we got rid of paper and went digital, and they banned those dark-pattern tricks where subscription sites make it a pain to cancel by shuffling you between pages.
    54AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:22
    There was that time an LDP lawmaker at the Digital Agency didn't even know what a USB drive was — they're way too amateur for this.
    55AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:22
    Given the numbers, doesn't this mean basically every government employee in Kasumigaseki had their name and address leaked?
    Feels like this should be bigger news.
    64AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:27
    Re: #55
    If it's just bureaucrats affected, no need to make a big deal of it in the news, right? Not like it concerns regular people.
    69AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:31
    Honestly, I bet the cause is something lame like someone plugging in an infected USB drive.
    82AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:38
    Re: #69
    >Large numbers of files on the server were accessed using the account of a maintenance/operations staff member
    https://www.digital.go.jp/news/2026-0911-01

    So it was the outsourced contractor handling maintenance that leaked it.
    89AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:42
    You'd think Digital Agency staff would be full of experts from places like the National Institute of Informatics, but is it actually just a bunch of part-time 'IT construction laborers'? (slang for overworked, low-status IT grunt workers)
    93AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:46
    Re: #89
    Yeah, the contractor wet the bed on this one. Social engineering.
    110AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:02
    Does a country like this even need an intelligence agency?

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    The Digital Agency is a relatively new ministry established in 2021, tasked with driving the digitalization of government administration and overseeing many of the shared IT systems used across the government. As some of the replies above note, official statements indicate this leak may have resulted from the misuse of an account belonging to a contractor responsible for system maintenance — a different route from the simple ‘infected USB drive’ theory initially speculated in the thread, which is worth keeping in mind. It’s also unclear from the official announcement whether the figure of ‘246,000’ refers only to full-time employees themselves or also includes family members, and interpretations varied within the thread as well. My Number data and bank account information are said to be excluded, but this is based solely on the current official disclosure, and the scope could change as the investigation progresses — an easy point to misread.

    *This article is composed as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Absolutely Tragic News] Digital Agency Hacked, About 246,000 Pieces of Personal Info Leaked lolololol.”

  • Households With Kids Average ¥8.57 Million a Year — Yet 60% Say Life Is a Struggle

    According to the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare’s “Overview of the 2025 Comprehensive Survey of Living Conditions,” the average income per household with children was ¥8,573,000 — ¥2,821,000 more than the all-household average of ¥5,752,000. Even so, the finding that 60% of these households still say life is a struggle sparked a stir on 5channel’s News Speed+ board. Threads filled up with talk of the cost-of-living gap between city centers and rural areas, alongside comments from couples earning over ¥20 million a year who say they can “barely manage one child,” and others earning around ¥6 million who say they’ve “never once felt like it was hard.” The discussion laid bare how what really shapes the feeling of hardship isn’t the raw income number, but how the money actually gets spent.

    For households with children, even a decent income can leave little cash on hand at the end of the month — isn’t that a common feeling? When education costs and mortgage payments overlap, it gets hard to see just how much slack is really left in the budget.

    According to the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare’s “Overview of the 2025 Comprehensive Survey of Living Conditions,” the average income per household with children was ¥8,573,000.

    That’s ¥2,821,000 above the all-household average of ¥5,752,000.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    7AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:57
    There's no way that's "a struggle," lol — are they messing with us?
    180AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:23
    Re: #7
    That's basically the same as ¥4 million back when the yen was at 80 to the dollar, so of course it's tough.
    265AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:35
    Re: #7
    In central Tokyo, that's pretty rough, honestly.
    13AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:58
    Well yeah — if you build a house, lease an Alphard (Toyota's flagship minivan, a status symbol for families) on residual-value credit, send your kids to private school, get everyone an iPhone, eat out constantly, and take a trip once a year, of course life feels tight.
    65AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:07
    Re: #13
    Just have your company buy the assets for you.
    158AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:21
    Re: #13
    The people raising kids right now are the same ones glued to social media, so they feel like they'll die if they don't keep up with everyone else.
    181AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:23
    Re: #13
    Families leasing an Alphard on residual credit aren't the ones sending their kids to private school, you know.
    18AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:00
    Ours is about ¥6 million. We're in a regional city, but we still own a house, own a car, and put two kids through university on that. What city do you have to live in where earning that much still leaves you struggling?
    31AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:02
    Re: #19
    By that math, ours is around ¥4 million, and I still haven't really felt like it's that hard.
    64AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:07
    Re: #18
    Rural areas and central Tokyo are two different worlds. We're a couple in our early 30s with household income comfortably over ¥20 million, and we're still agonizing over having even a first kid.
    143AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:17
    Rough math puts take-home pay at around ¥6 million? Yeah, that'd be tough.
    19AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:00
    Re: #1 Are they mixing up "income" and "gross salary"? Isn't it "gross salary minus deductions = income (take-home)"? If income is ¥8.57 million, wouldn't gross salary be over ¥10 million? Or am I misunderstanding this?
    34AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:02
    Re: #19
    You've got it right. A gross salary of ¥10 million? You can't even manage one kid on that, lol.

    We're at ¥25 million household income and we're only just now trying for our first.
    46AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:05
    Re: #34
    Totally get it. We're at ¥35 million household income and we're still on the fence about having kids at all.
    67AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:07
    Re: #34
    That's gotta be someone living in the "24 wards," lol (Tokyo actually only has 23 wards — a jab at how out-of-touch that sounds).
    42AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:04
    Guess you really can't have kids without money.

    What's with this "average household income of ¥8.75 million" thing anyway? You don't hit that income level unless both spouses are full-time regular employees.

    This just proves non-regular workers can't have kids.
    50AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:05
    Re: #42
    Having kids while working non-regular jobs is basically child abuse at that point, lololol. Unless your parents are loaded, that is.
    62AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:06
    Re: #42
    Since it's "income," the article's household gross salary works out to about ¥11 million.

    And even then, one kid is a no-go. It's only once household income clears ¥20 million that having even one kid starts to feel realistic.
    58AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:06
    The average income around here (on this board) is like ¥5 million. Keep the lies to a reasonable level or nobody's going to believe you.
    Then again, nobody trusts what gets posted here in the first place.
    82AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:09
    Re: #58
    At big Tokyo companies, second-year new hires easily clear ¥7.5 million. If that kind of couple moves in together and marries, household income of ¥18 million by age 28 is totally common.

    Looking at my university friends, this is just normal these days.


    91AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:10
    Re: #82
    The average age on this board is over 50 — there's no way young people are posting here. This is the Ice Age generation (Japan's "employment ice age" cohort who graduated into a brutal job market).
    112AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:13
    Re: #82
    Well, only a handful of people actually land jobs at big city-center companies. And raising the kind of high-achieving kid who can pull that off takes money.

    They really do call it "parent gacha" (the idea that which parents you're born to is a random draw that decides your life) for a reason.
    59AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:06
    I'm 47, only a high school diploma, no work history, and make ¥2.1 million a year — I can still turn my life around, right?
    89AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:10
    Re: #59
    As long as you've got the will to do it.
    71AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:08
    We've made ¥6.5 million since we had our two kids and never once felt like it was a struggle.
    You just live within your means.
    Even without much money, you can still live happily.
    88AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:09
    Re: #71
    Bragging about being poor is just sad, cut it out.
    Feel sorry for the kids.
    98AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:11
    Re: #88
    After switching jobs and getting promoted I'm at ¥11 million now, but my lifestyle hasn't changed at all from when I made ¥6.5 million.
    You don't need much money to be happy.
    113AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:13
    Re: #98
    How old are you?
    I live in Tokyo, I'm 30, and I make ¥14 million.
    Major energy company, TOPIX 100.

    Don't tell me you're in your 40s or older?
    93AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:10
    Kids are nothing but risk, honestly.
    People aren't thinking about what happens if the kid has a developmental issue, stops going to school, or becomes a hikikomori (a shut-in who withdraws from society).
    This country is mass-producing shut-ins.
    245AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:32
    Re: #93
    It's almost entirely determined by genetics.
    Some people are just high-risk and some are low-risk.
    260AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:34
    Re: #93
    Makes you wonder why it's actually increasing these days.
    Selection pressure is getting stronger, so you'd think it would naturally be decreasing instead.
    127AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:14
    So what kind of lifestyle would actually NOT feel like a struggle?
    148AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:19
    Re: #127
    Both kids go to private school,
    you keep two safe-choice cars — a Crown and an Alphard —
    the wife works a part-time job for fun earning ¥70,000 a month and keeps all of it as her own spending money,
    the family eats out somewhere non-chain every week,
    and you take economy-class overseas trips for Golden Week, Obon, and New Year's.

    Apparently you can pull all that off on a household income of around ¥25 million.
    155AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:20
    Re: #127
    Having two kids, being able to eat out on weekends, take one family trip a year, build a new home in the greater Tokyo area, buy a new car every five years, put your kids through the private middle-school entrance exam gauntlet, and get them into a private science/engineering university program.
    173AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:22
    Re: #127
    Man, I just want to eat some sashimi…
    216AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:28
    We're at ¥6 million with a stay-at-home wife, two kids, living in Saitama, and we're not struggling that much.
    What are the people who say it's tough actually spending their money on?
    Are both of them hitting the pachinko parlor together or something?
    219AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:28
    Re: #216
    I have known couples where both drink and smoke and then complain they have no money.
    222AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:29
    Re: #216
    At least let your kids sit the middle-school entrance exams.
    224AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:29
    Re: #216
    It's the whole exam-prep obsession, isn't it.
    The world is changing, but people are still clinging to academic credentials.
    Going forward, alumni networks might still matter, but the credential itself won't count for much.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    This figure comes from the average in the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare’s annual Comprehensive Survey of Living Conditions, and it’s worth noting that averages like this can be skewed upward by a small number of high-income households. As pointed out in the thread, the “income” referenced here is closer to gross total income before tax and social insurance deductions — it is not take-home pay. That means it isn’t accurate to simply read “¥8.57 million in income” as “comfortable living,” since for households raising children with overlapping education costs and mortgage payments, the statistical figure and the lived experience can diverge sharply. Where opinions split in the thread was over how, even at the same income level, the feeling of “struggling” can vary enormously depending on where you live and how you allocate your spending — comments comparing the high cost of city living against life in rural areas came up again and again. It’s also easy to overlook that, being an average rather than a median, this number may be pulled upward by high-income households.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5channel (News Speed+) thread “👦👧 Average income for households with children is ¥8.573 million, yet 60% say “life is a struggle”.”

  • Analysis Claims Switch 2’s VRR Outperforms PS5, Sparks Debate on 5ch

    Overseas media reported an analysis claiming that the Nintendo Switch 2’s VRR (Variable Refresh Rate) performance surpasses the PS5, sparking discussion on 5ch’s “Hardware/Industry (Geha)” board. VRR is a feature that smooths out stutter when frame rates fluctuate, and the PS5 only gained support for it via a post-launch update. The thread argued over whether the Switch 2’s VRR support is on par with Xbox’s, which spiraled into a separate debate over whether AMD or NVIDIA chips are superior. Opinions split further after someone pointed out that GTA6 is expected to run at 30fps, raising doubts about whether the feature would even provide any benefit.

    1AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:42
    PS5 just lost 😭
    16AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:46
    So basically GTA6 at 30fps is gonna be choppy?
    26AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:48
    Re: #16
    Whoa, yeah it is.
    What was it again — doesn't it get choppy without VRR kicking in? All that trash-talk cuts both ways!
    42AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:52
    PS5 is like a 7-year-old machine at this point, so it can't be helped
    47AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:53
    Re: #42
    But Xbox is from the same era and it supports it fine…
    53AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:54
    Doesn't this make Sony look stupid for spending all that time implementing an inferior version of the feature?
    55AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:55
    Re: #53
    Well, they're idiots, so of course they made it a weird spec.
    Not wrong.
    61AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:56
    Honestly, it'd be better if VRR never even needed to kick in, right?
    65AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:58
    Re: #61
    But isn't VRR what makes GTA6 more enjoyable?
    Oh wait, it's 30fps, so no benefit there.
    64AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:57
    There are barely any games hitting 60fps anyway, so it's irrelevant.
    On Switch, 30-40fps is basically the standard.
    86AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:06
    Re: #64
    Isn't the point that it helps in that range too?
    107AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:13
    Re: #64
    Why are "sokuhou" posters (news-aggregator-site regulars) always so good at self-owns?
    109AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:14
    Re: #64
    GTA6 be like, "Fair enough."
    72AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:01
    It's inferior because it's a loser console stuck with AMD instead of NVIDIA.
    80AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:03
    Re: #72
    Yeah, that's the GPU brand nobody would ever choose.
    97AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:09
    Performance:
    PS5 > Xbox >>> Switch 2

    Limited to VRR:
    Xbox = Switch 2 > PS5

    Conclusion:
    PS5 > Xbox >>> Switch 2
    103AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:11
    Re: #97
    Meanwhile in reality it looks more like a "Drag-You-Down Station" (a dig at "PlayStation").
    120AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:18
    Re: #97
    Let's rank the CPUs too while we're at it.
    105AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:12
    Re: #86
    For example, if you're running at 60fps and it suddenly drops to 40, you feel the stutter.
    VRR is what makes that less noticeable.
    It has nothing to do with just running at 30-40fps.
    123AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:19
    Re: #105
    That's exactly why Re: #1 brought up LFC (Low Framerate Compensation) too, no?
    111AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:14
    Well, PS5's VRR was originally called "fake VRR" anyway.
    112AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:15
    Re: #111
    Turns out it's still fake VRR even now.
    113AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:15
    On the flip side, why would you think AMD is better than NVIDIA?
    And that's even though it's a pretty old chip, even for a desktop part.
    117AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:17
    Re: #113
    There's never been a time AMD was better than Nvidia.
    Every time they look like they might catch up, Nvidia just pulls away again.
    115AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:16
    Is VRR some complicated tech?
    PS5 got it added later too, right?
    138AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:26
    Re: #115
    It's not that big a deal, honestly.
    You could even say retro hardware was all "VRR" in its own way.
    Modern consoles have gotten more PC-like compared to the old days, so this kind of mechanism is becoming necessary.
    118AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:17
    I don't really get what VRR is — does it just mean things feel smoother than before?
    121AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:18
    Re: #118
    Roughly speaking, it's a feature that reduces stutter when the frame rate drops under load.
    126AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:20
    Re: #118
    Nope.
    It's more like the stutter gets suppressed during frame drops.
    The stutter doesn't disappear completely, and it's not like the fps goes up or gets interpolated.
    132AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:21
    Hold on a second.
    The Switch 2 is a handheld that uses a measly 20W lol.

    There's no way a home console pulling 300W and calling itself "8K" would lose to that.
    137AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:25
    So what's Mr. Choppy-30fps-GTA gonna do about this?
    146AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:30
    Re: #137
    PS5's fake VRR requires 48FPS, so it has zero effect lol.
    Oh, and if it's 30FPS to begin with, it doesn't even reach the 40FPS that "true" VRR requires either lol — irrelevant either way lol.
    141AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:28
    These people probably don't even know VRR doesn't function at 30fps to begin with.
    150AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:32
    Re: #141
    So basically, GTA6 is going to be choppy AND blurry, huh?
    149AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:31
    Strictly speaking, LFC is a state where VRR isn't actually engaged — so what's this "true VRR" nonsense?
    Way too dumb.
    152AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:32
    Re: #149
    Uh, I'm talking about the 40-60FPS range that HDMI requires, nothing to do with the Switch 2 specifically.
    Oh, and just to be clear since you seemed confused — I don't mean an actual microwave ("range" pun on the Japanese word for both).
    160AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:38
    This just makes me even more hyped for Stellar Blade.
    170AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:45
    Re: #160
    Using FSR frame generation to push 30fps up to 60fps is straight-up insane.
    It's obviously going to fall apart into a blurry mess.
    167AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:44
    Why does this need support on the software side? Shouldn't the OS just handle it automatically?
    172AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:45
    Re: #167
    Ask Nintendo about that one.
    On PS5, the system itself handles it.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    The PS5 only gained VRR support via an update released years after launch, and due to the narrow range it covers, it’s sometimes called “fake VRR.” VRR is a mechanism for reducing stutter when frame rates fluctuate — it’s not a measure of power consumption or raw processing performance — so the thread’s reaction that “there’s no way a 20W handheld beats a 300W-class home console” conflates VRR’s technical meaning with processing power. There’s also technology like LFC (Low Framerate Compensation), which produces a pseudo-VRR effect even outside the normal VRR range, and differing opinions on where “true VRR” ends are part of what fueled the circular argument in the thread. It’s also worth noting that the underlying report is an analysis from overseas media, and the specific figures and refresh-rate ranges were not independently verified within the thread itself.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry [Geha]) thread “DF: “Switch 2’s VRR completely surpasses PS5 😆”.”

  • Yokozuna Hoshoryu Out From Day One of Autumn Tournament — Recovery From Knee Surgery Behind Schedule

    At a bout-scheduling meeting held on the 11th for the Grand Sumo Autumn Tournament (opening day the 13th, at Ryogoku Kokugikan), it was decided that Yokozuna Hoshoryu (27, Tatsunami stable) will sit out both day one and day two. He underwent surgery on his right knee in late July, and his recovery hasn’t caught up in time. This marks his 10th absence over three consecutive tournaments, and his 5th absence in the 10 tournaments since his promotion to yokozuna — reportedly the first time he’s missed an entire tournament from day one since his professional debut in 2018. On 5ch, threads were split between voices saying “maybe it’s time to retire” and others questioning the very criteria used to promote him from ozeki to yokozuna in the first place.

    Published 9/11 (Fri) 9:41 AM

    Sports Hochi

    The Japan Sumo Association held its bout-scheduling meeting on the 11th at Ryogoku Kokugikan for the Grand Sumo Autumn Tournament (opening day the 13th, in Ryogoku, Tokyo), setting bouts through day two. Yokozuna Hoshoryu (27, Tatsunami stable), who had surgery on his right knee in late July, will not compete on day one or day two, confirming his withdrawal. This is Hoshoryu’s 10th absence across three consecutive tournaments, and his 5th in the 10 tournaments since becoming yokozuna. It’s the first time he’s been out from day one since his professional debut at the 2018 New Year Tournament.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:14
    Three tournaments in a row now, huh — is retirement finally on the table?
    6AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:16
    Doesn't look like he's winning another title as yokozuna at this rate.
    90AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:22
    Re: #6
    Officially the weakest yokozuna ever!
    7AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:17
    The Kyushu tournament is going to be make-or-break for him. If he's got 3 losses by the halfway mark, he should retire.
    8AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:17
    He probably just wants one title as yokozuna before it's over, so he's not going to push it now.
    9AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:18
    Who'd have thought a yokozuna could fall this far.
    12AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:19
    Re: #9
    He's really only ozeki-level talent, but they forced the promotion through so they'd have a yokozuna ring-entering ceremony to show off on the London tour.

    Hoshoryu's basically a victim of the Association here too.
    26AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:26
    Re: #9
    He was never consistent to begin with — promoting him to yokozuna anyway was just asking for trouble.
    38AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:37
    Re: #9
    After Hakuho retired, the Association panicked about having no yokozuna at all, so they just made Hoshoryu (then an ozeki) a yokozuna the moment he won a title.
    13AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:20
    Still, he's been a mess ever since becoming yokozuna.
    Though promoting him in the first place was the real mistake.
    14AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:20
    Gets paid even when he's out hurt!
    Sumo wrestling really is a strange line of work.
    15AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:20
    Injury withdrawals have really shot up since sumo got more competitive/serious.
    Honestly there are just too many tournaments a year.
    27AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:26
    Re: #15
    I mean, if a normal person fell off the ring (dohyo), they could seriously die.
    Just turn the area below the ring into a pool — the front-row seats already get "splashed" (mizukaburi-seki) anyway!
    16AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:20
    Heard that for knee trouble, just taking chondroitin and glucosamine would fix it.
    So I skipped the doctor and only took those.
    Turned out it was too late by the time I got checked out.
    17AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:21
    Re: #16
    Glucosamine is just a health supplement, not medicine.
    19AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:22
    This is what happens when you force a promotion. He'd lost 3 times to rank-and-file wrestlers — he never should've been promoted.
    20AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:23
    Guess it just means nobody knows who he is, so nobody cares.
    30AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:29
    Well, he should get that knee properly fixed.
    Say what you want, but even while Onosato was struggling, Hoshoryu kept wrestling like a real yokozuna (even without winning titles).
    So I think he's earned some rest now.
    Onosato, meanwhile, needs to start producing results already.
    32AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:30
    Re: #30
    Onosato has won a title though — he is producing results.
    36AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:36
    The Tatsunami stable's curse continues — a tradition of chaos going back to Kitao (Futahaguro, the yokozuna infamously expelled from sumo).
    78AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:06
    Re: #36
    Same here.
    Tatsunami stable sure keeps giving the public plenty to talk about.
    40AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:38
    Why does the whole crowd smile whenever Hoshoryu loses?
    54AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:46
    Re: #40
    He's a good guy off the dohyo,
    but he's always got a scowl on during his bouts.
    Still, he gives it everything, so I like him.
    44AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:40
    Nothing good has happened since Hakkaku took over (as Sumo Association chairman).
    68AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:56
    Re: #44
    Can't really complain, the seats still sell out.
    Why not criticize the fans instead?
    47AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:41
    For a second I read that as "breast augmentation surgery" (a pun on his name, 豊胸手術/hokyou shujutsu).
    51AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:44
    Re: #47
    Same, I misread it that way too for a second.
    48AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:41
    He was only promoted to yokozuna to make the London tour look good.
    Hakkaku needs to take responsibility for this.
    94AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:30
    Re: #48
    We just respected the judgment of the esteemed experts on the Yokozuna Deliberation Council, that's all…
    56AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:47
    Maybe yokozuna should be a rank you can get demoted from.
    Or at least raise the bar for promotion.
    63AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:52
    Re: #56
    In Hoshoryu's case, the Association just lowered the promotion standards for the sake of the London tour, so…
    72AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:58
    Does the Sumo Association really think you bounce back from knee surgery that easily?
    79AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:07
    Re: #72
    There's that toxic old culture of "heal your ring injuries on the ring."
    We're not in that era anymore — he should just take his time and properly recover.
    74AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:00
    There are six tournaments a year, and a yokozuna who can't win even one of them should be demoted back to ozeki.
    96AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:33
    Re: #74
    Have you forgotten about the great Yokozuna Hakuho, who basically made a habit of sitting out tournaments?
    82AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:15
    Back when Hakuho was around as sumo's clear-cut heel/villain, wasn't the sport actually pretty exciting?
    86AnonymousSep 11, 2026 12:17
    Re: #82
    Less a heel, more that he just kept showing up and somehow kept winning no matter what.
    I bet the Association never realized how rare it is to have someone both strong AND durable until he was gone.

    Background and Key Points of Debate

    Hoshoryu was promoted to yokozuna after winning a title following the 2025 New Year Tournament, but he’s been sidelined frequently since then — sitting out 5 of the 10 tournaments he’s held the rank, including the last three in a row. Threads repeatedly floated the theory that the Association loosened its promotion criteria to avoid having no yokozuna on hand for the London tour, but it’s worth noting this is speculation from 5ch users, not something the Association has officially acknowledged. The fact that this is his first full withdrawal from day one since his 2018 professional debut was also cited as evidence of just how serious the situation is. The debate split mainly into two camps: those treating the frequent absences as grounds for “retirement talk,” and those defending him, arguing he should rest properly to heal his knee — with some pointing to Hakuho, who also missed plenty of tournaments yet still held the yokozuna rank for years, as a precedent.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt/summary of the 5ch (Geinou Sports Express+) thread “[Sumo] Yokozuna Hoshoryu Out From Day One of Autumn Tournament — Recovery From Knee Surgery Behind Schedule, a Painful Decision.”

  • Awake for 36 Hours, Slept Just 1: Viewers Say Short-Sleeper Streamer Might Be “the Real Deal”

    A thread appeared on 5ch’s livestream-commentary board reporting that a streamer who claims to be a “short sleeper” had stayed awake for over 36 hours, sleeping a total of just one hour during that span. The result reportedly followed a declaration of “I won’t sleep on day two” after viewers accused the streamer of dozing off during a treatment the day before. While some in the thread called it “the real deal,” others raised a definitional objection — “isn’t being a short sleeper about needing less sleep per session, not about refusing to sleep at all?” — and pointed to past streaming stunts where people stayed awake for over a week, leaving the thread divided over what would actually count as "proof."

    1AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:20
    Over 36 hours in and the total actual sleep is just 1 hour.
    Yesterday during a head-spa treatment, haters said "you totally dozed off! (for 30 min)" so they declared they wouldn't sleep on day two.
    This person's the real deal.
    2AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:21
    They're still totally fine right now.
    The cosmetic surgeon and YouTubers who doubted them owe an apology.
    34AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:36
    Re: #2
    Doubting them was reasonable, so there's no need for an apology, is there

    Even if it's genuine, it's such a rare case you can't really judge it by normal standards.
    3AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:21
    What about that leak saying they normally sleep 7 hours?
    5AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:23
    Re: #3
    Apparently the doctor misread "1 hour" as "7 hours."
    4AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:22
    Haters: "Aren't they just sleeping during those 6 baths a day?"

    → Responded by streaming in a swimsuit in the bath, showing everything

    Unstoppable.
    75AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:56
    Re: #4
    A swimsuit stream, for real?
    I want to see it.
    6AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:24
    Did you guys get played for free promo again?
    9AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:24
    They're doing totally fine, as usual.
    This person's the real deal.
    11AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:25
    Is it that they can't sleep, or that they won't sleep? Which is it?
    12AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:25
    I dozed off myself during that ridiculously long bath scene — did this person pull an all-nighter yesterday?
    13AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:26
    This is basically proof it's a genuine rare physical trait.
    27AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:30
    Re: #13
    But that's not being a short sleeper.
    They're just refusing to sleep.
    45AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:41
    Re: #13
    That would be a problem for Hori (the streamer, aka Hori Daisuke, referenced later in the thread)
    It has to be framed as a skill anyone can pick up.
    14AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:26
    Even a random corporate slave or a college student could manage like 3 days of this.
    15AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:26
    People are joking that they "totally slept," but sleeping is sleeping, right?
    16AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:26
    "Short sleeper" refers to how long each individual sleep session is —
    isn't not sleeping at all just insomnia?
    23AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:29
    Even this still loses to Akino Housoukyoku, who once beat every Dragon Quest game back to back without sleeping.
    31AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:35
    Re: #23
    The other guy who did a no-sleep Dragon Quest stream (not Akino) stayed awake for hundreds of hours.
    A full week without sleep is way more impressive than short-sleeper Hori Daisuke.
    36AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:38
    Re: #31
    Then again, sleeping just 30 minutes a day, every day, seems impressive in its own way.
    Once you fall asleep, you can't wake back up, right?
    57AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:48
    Re: #36
    During his no-sleep trip, Miyakawa Taisei refused to nap too, saying "if I nap, I won't be able to wake up again."
    51AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:46
    Going 2 days without sleep is doable if you push yourself.
    Past that, something starts going wrong lol
    53AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:47
    Re: #51
    There was a foreign streamer who played Zelda nonstop and didn't sleep for a week.
    58AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:48

    Uh oh…
    63AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:49
    Re: #58
    Even just 4 hours without sleep is already pretty rough, honestly.
    90AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:01
    I heard the stream keeps cutting out here and there — what's up with that?
    92AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:02
    Re: #90
    It's just brief lag-related freezes.
    It doesn't stop for minutes at a time.
    96AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:03
    Hori Daisuke's even written a book on this, so keep an eye on the eating streams too.
    98AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:04
    Lol, Professor Yanagisawa — Hori Daisuke's rival — just won a Lasker Award.
    https://x.com/d_holi/status/1744996392064692562?s=46&t=D3iLJzANXts4VS1o9hT-0g
    102AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:05
    Re: #98
    Sorry, but that's just way too obvious.
    106AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:06
    Re: #98
    He was on Hodo Station (a Japanese evening news program) yesterday making fun of Hori.
    105AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:06
    I believe they're really not sleeping, but I think they should use that extra time productively, like Edison or Osamu Tezuka did.
    110AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:07
    Re: #105
    Huh? They're taking baths, though.
    121AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:11
    Did this person even explain why they take so many baths in the first place?
    If the whole point of short sleeping is having more waking hours, spending all that time bathing kind of defeats the purpose, doesn't it?
    125AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:13
    Re: #121
    Apparently they're worried about body odor.
    135AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:18
    Re: #121
    Re: #125
    What, like Shizuka-chan? (the famously bath-loving character from Doraemon)

    Background and Points of Debate

    Medically speaking, “short sleeper” describes a physical trait in which someone experiences little to no impairment despite short individual sleep sessions — it’s technically a different concept from deliberately staying awake. As noted in the thread, it’s well known that the longer sleep deprivation continues, the more cognitive functions like judgment tend to decline, and there have been past streaming stunts built around staying awake for extended stretches that drew attention. Whether this particular case stems from a genuine physical trait or is simply an endurance stunt is hard to determine from the stream alone, and it’s worth noting that the thread never reached a consensus, staying split between those who considered it “proof” and those who argued the definition doesn’t even apply in the first place.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Good News] The Short-Sleeper Person Seems to Be the Real Deal After All.”

  • Inside Tokyo’s Street Prostitution Scene: 40% Are Doing It to Pay Off Host Club Debts

    Around Kabukicho, women continue to line up in gaps between buildings waiting for customers in a practice known as “tachinbo” (street soliciting), and Daily Shincho reports that 40% of them are selling sex to pay off debts to host clubs. On 5channel, users debated a structure that resists simple moralizing: the limits of enforcement, since merely standing there isn’t grounds for arrest; the argument that cracking down on hosts won’t reduce the practice since women have countless other places to funnel money; and the historical point that street soliciting actually took root in the area before host clubs did.

    “A fair-skinned beauty in her 20s heads to a hotel with a middle-aged man…” Lined up in the gaps between walls like merchandise — the reality of “street walkers,” 40% of whom are paying tribute to host clubs

    Fri, Sep 11, 5:58 AM JST

    Daily Shincho

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:29
    Scary without any health screening — they're probably sleeping with filthy creeps too
    168AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:29
    Re: #3
    Even with health checks there's an incubation period, so you'd still catch something.
    Can't believe people do this so casually.
    6AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:30
    Why don't they just arrest them?
    40AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:44
    Re: #6
    On what charge?
    They're just standing there.
    Unless it's a sting operation, but…
    7AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:31
    I'm a "weak man" (low-status, incel-adjacent guy), so I just make do with videos.

    I don't even want to bring kids into a world like this anymore, so I have no use for women.
    84AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:55
    Re: #7
    The sex industry just leaves you feeling empty and it's scary health-wise — it's not even that great.

    So that's fine. Don't force it; if you naturally meet someone, just go with the flow. Don't push yourself.
    12AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:33
    I want to ask someone who's really into this — if you compared it to the Heart Sutra, which part would it be???
    26AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:38
    Re: #12
    "Even the proud do not endure long" (a line from the Tale of the Heike)
    49AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:48
    Re: #12
    Gyatei gyatei hara gyatei (a mangling of the Heart Sutra's closing mantra)
    25AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:37
    Wouldn't it be quicker to just abolish host clubs?
    31AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:40
    Re: #25
    Honestly, I don't think it'd make a difference
    Even without host clubs, women would keep selling themselves to fund other things
    There's zero stigma left around prostitution now, and it's become widely known as an easy way to make money. Plus they get protected no matter what happens.
    42AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:45
    Re: #25
    Men's concept cafes, underground boy idols, Johnny's talent — there are plenty of other places women pour big money into, so just getting rid of host clubs alone won't change anything.
    172AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:31
    Re: #25
    Cracking down on malicious hosts is necessary, but on top of that, unless someone actually has academic goals or a career plan, stop sending them to university and just marry them off early — that would cut the numbers.
    If they want to study later, they can always go to college after their kids are grown.
    Pointless credentialism and later marriage are the real root cause.
    38AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:43
    Re: #1
    Why not start by officially designating host clubs as antisocial activity and cracking down on them?
    Because that's basically what they are.
    52AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:48
    Re: #38
    It's more complicated than that — historically in this area, street soliciting almost certainly became popular before host clubs did, and if anything, the rise in street soliciting is what drove the rise in host clubs.
    So it's questionable whether getting rid of host clubs would actually end this kind of prostitution. But if street soliciting died out, host clubs would definitely die out too — so if you want to hurt the host business, wiping out street soliciting is the surer bet.
    41AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:44
    Re: #31
    That's exactly why, unless you crack down on the sellers, street soliciting will never go away.
    Everyone must know this, yet they look the other way. On top of that, plain prostitution gets rebranded as "papa katsu" (sugar-daddy dating) to strip away the stigma — that's basically promoting prostitution.

    This country is finished.
    68AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:53
    Re: #41
    There's also the argument that cracking down wouldn't help much anyway.
    In the end, once people learn to earn money this way,
    it's hard for them to ever take pride in an honest job.
    That's been true from ancient times right up to today.
    43AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:45
    Why are they being talked about like victims?
    They're just earning cash to fund their fandom spending.
    45AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:46
    Re: #43
    They are victims — of the men who buy sex from them.
    The host's role is basically a counselor healing the emotional wounds that causes.
    59AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:50
    In that case, wouldn't it be simpler if the middle-aged guys just handed the money straight to the hosts?
    79AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:54
    Re: #59
    These old guys pay tribute to hostess-club girls AND to the street walkers — double tribute.
    63AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:51
    Is being with a host really worth selling yourself over?
    Or is it simply… a matter of low intelligence? (the original phrasing here reads like a typo/IME slip)
    75AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:54
    Re: #63
    Apparently it turns into a genuine psychological dependency.
    So if you had to slap a clinical name on the relationship between these women and their hosts, it'd probably be something like "pseudo-romance addiction."
    90AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:57
    What's the deal with the old guys buying them?
    Why not just go to a regular sex-industry shop?
    96AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:00
    Re: #90
    Being able to see the face directly before buying is probably a big draw.
    98AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:01
    Re: #90
    That part's honestly a mystery.
    107AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:05
    Re: #90
    It gets cheaper depending on how you negotiate.

    Speaking from experience.
    102AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:02


    So this is "merchandise" too, huh.
    112AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:07
    I'm curious, what do hosts actually spend all that money on?
    Are they paying tribute to someone above them?
    193AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:36
    Re: #112
    Say there's a host who calls himself a "100-million-yen player" (i.e., racks up 100 million yen in sales).
    First, the club takes roughly half, leaving 50 million.
    The flashy ones end up paying real taxes too one way or another, so that halves again to 25 million.
    They also drop a fair amount on clothes, housing, and keeping up appearances, and once you factor in how rough things get around age 35, it's actually not that profitable.
    174AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:31
    At its core it's the same as guys who've burned out on online games or take shady "yami baito" gigs (illicit under-the-table jobs) — there's no reason to feel sympathy.
    186AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:34
    Re: #174
    Yeah, well…
    Basically, women obsessed with hosts are just the female version of sex-industry-addicted old men.
    If host-obsessed women are a pitiable group that needs saving, then sex-industry-obsessed old men would equally be a group that needs saving.
    211AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:38
    Re: #174
    "Yami baito" jobs are bad because they produce actual victims, but street soliciting doesn't hurt anyone, so isn't it fine?

    The old guy buying sex is happy — he got to sleep with a young woman.
    The street walker is happy — she got to pay tribute to her favorite host.
    Her favorite host is happy — he got a big payday.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    The structure in which women sell their bodies to cover living expenses or pay off “uriage” tabs run up at host clubs, centered on Kabukicho, has repeatedly been reported as a social problem since around 2022. Opinions in the thread split over whether regulating host clubs alone could break this cycle: some called for tighter regulation, while skeptics countered that “there are plenty of other outlets to pour money into, like men’s concept cafes or fan/idol spending.” The point that “it’s hard to crack down when someone is just standing there” highlights a practical legal wall — there’s little regulation that directly targets the act of standing on the street itself — a nuance easy to miss from the article alone. The observation that, historically in this area, street soliciting took hold before host clubs did also shows the causal relationship between the two can’t be reduced to a simple narrative.

    *This article is composed from excerpts and a summary of the 5channel (Breaking News+) thread ““A fair-skinned beauty in her 20s heads to a hotel with a middle-aged man…” Lined up in the gaps between walls like merchandise… the reality of “street walkers,” 40% of whom are paying tribute to host clubs.”

  • Nikkei Plunges as Much as ¥1,600 as Oil Prices Surge — 5ch: “Don’t Look at the Points, Look at the Percentage”

    On the 11th, the Nikkei Stock Average opened lower on the Tokyo exchange, falling by more than 1,600 yen at one point. The drop came against a backdrop of surging New York crude oil futures — driven by expectations that tensions in the Middle East will remain elevated for a long time — and a broad decline across major U.S. stock indexes in the previous day’s trading. On 5ch discussion threads, reactions were split: some voiced alarm at the size of the point drop, while others took a calmer view, noting that “in percentage terms it’s only about 2.3%” or that “it just brought us back to where we were a month ago.” The discussion also touched on how the drop might affect the Bank of Japan’s interest rate decision, as well as concerns among individual investors dollar-cost averaging into mutual funds through NISA about their paper gains.

    The Nikkei Stock Average opened lower on the Tokyo exchange on the 11th, falling in early trading. The opening price was 64,276.82, down 994.13 yen from the previous day’s close. New York crude oil futures surged on the view that tensions in the Middle East will remain high for an extended period, and on the 10th, major U.S. stock indexes all declined. Concerns spread that surging oil prices and rising interest rates could weigh on the economy and corporate earnings, and at one point the Nikkei’s decline exceeded 1,600 yen.

    [Nikkei QUICK News (NQN)]

    Nikkei, September 11, 2026, 9:11 AM

    Source: nikkei.com / Original article here

    9AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:19
    So, with this crash trend, does the BOJ actually have the guts to raise rates? (lol)
    Go ahead and try it, then (lol)
    13AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:20
    Re: #9
    Interest rates have nothing to do with stock prices lol
    63AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:31
    Re: #9
    Isn't it the other way around? I thought the stock price dropped because they hinted at a rate hike.
    Honestly, isn't holding off on raising rates getting hard to justify by now?
    102AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:43
    Re: #9
    Huh? Of course it's related.
    What kind of idiot central bank hikes rates while the stock market's crashing and the market's in a panic, triggering a reverse wealth effect that chills consumption and drags the economy into the ground?
    Just because their mandate is price stability doesn't mean they can ram through a rate hike while ignoring market chaos — anyone who thinks that's possible is way too naive.
    30AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:24
    It's gonna drop all the way to 50,000 lolol
    53AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:28
    It's no big deal — we just went back to where we were a month ago.

    But I do love watching the "missed the boat" crowd like Re: #30 get all worked up about it.
    33AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:25
    I don't really care about stocks, but with expensive oil and a weak yen, prices are gonna get even worse and life's gonna get tougher.
    Let's all apologize to Iran and go invade Israel instead.
    39AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:26
    Re: #33
    America would have some strong words for us about that.
    38AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:26
    Don't look at the point drop, look at the percentage.
    It's only -2.3%.
    Back when the Nikkei was at 15,000, that would've been a drop of about 350 yen.
    103AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:43
    Re: #38
    Well, but that figure also includes people who piled in with absurd amounts of leverage, so if one of them decides it's time to bail, you might see some seriously wild swings.
    73AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:35
    It's still got further to fall. Are people's NISA accounts gonna be okay?
    76AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:36
    Re: #73
    The All-Country World fund ("Orukan") is done for.
    85AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:38
    Re: #73
    I've been dollar-cost averaging into the All-Country fund through NISA since last November, but between this and the exchange rate, I'm like… where did my gains go?
    79AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:37
    It's already down 2,000 yen?
    This feels like Eikichi Yazawa's unstoppable "Ah-ha!" (a famous ad-lib from the Japanese rock legend).
    88AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:39
    Re: #79
    Isn't that the one where he throws the towel? lol
    83AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:37
    Re: #1
    >due to the view that Middle East tensions will remain heightened for the long term

    We've known that for six months already.
    Don't tell me people actually believed the Trump administration on this?
    86AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:38
    Re: #83
    PM Takaichi cut the gasoline tax thinking it'd all be over soon.
    118AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:49
    People with fixed-term deposits are the real winners here.
    Not a single yen lost lolololololololololol
    123AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:50
    Re: #118
    By that logic, wouldn't government bonds be even better since they yield more than a fixed deposit?
    I've actually been buying up a bunch of them myself lately lol
    124AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:51
    "Kioxia will hit 100,000 yen by year-end."
    "Kioxia will hit 100,000 yen by year-end."
    "Kioxia will hit 100,000 yen by year-end."
    128AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:53
    Re: #124
    That's a wild price considering it's after the stock split.
    134AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:55
    Re: #124
    Sounds like something rookie-investor "Shinji" would say lol
    126AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:52
    Re: #118
    That's the same as taking a real loss once you factor in inflation, you know.
    129AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:53
    Re: #126
    Still way better than losing money buying the All-Country fund through NISA. It's already too high a level for me to buy in now.
    As for government bonds, no thanks — I don't want them sneaking through a constitutional amendment during the 1-year lockup and turning it into a 10-year lockup.
    133AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:55
    Re: #129
    Well, paying attention to market conditions is always a good thing.
    142AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:59
    Re: #129
    At least from this year into next, I think holding cash is the right call.
    151AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:02
    With the Iran war escalating, there's no way stocks are going up.
    Stocks are the first thing dumped when people flee to safety — they're a risk-sensitive asset.
    What gets stronger in times like this is the US dollar.
    157AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:04
    Re: #151
    Actually, the currency that's risen the most since the Iran war started is the yen, lol
    158AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:04
    Re: #151
    No, the whole dollar-as-reserve-currency system itself is under threat.
    Ups and downs aside, gold is still the safer bet.
    152AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:02
    Re: #147
    Compare that to inflation in the rest of the world.
    153AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:03
    Re: #152
    In most of the world, national health insurance is either cheap or nonexistent.
    160AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:05
    Re: #152
    China's in deflation, though.

    Background and Key Points

    The Nikkei’s drop of more than 1,600 yen at one point was driven by surging New York crude oil futures amid expectations that Middle East tensions will remain elevated for the long term, and the resulting decline in U.S. stocks the previous day. Since higher oil prices translate directly into higher domestic prices and gasoline costs, the thread also touched on economic policy responses such as the government’s gasoline tax cut. Opinions were split on how to read the size of the drop: some reacted to the raw figure of 1,600 yen, while others pointed out that in percentage terms it’s only about 2.3%, and that the point drop looks larger simply because the Nikkei’s overall level is higher than it used to be. Individual investors dollar-cost averaging into mutual funds (like the “Orukan” All-Country fund) through NISA also voiced concern about their shrinking unrealized gains, reflecting the experience of those who started investing after the new NISA program launched. Note that views on the relationship between this drop and the Bank of Japan’s rate decision were split — some argued “rate hikes have nothing to do with stock prices,” others that “hiking rates during a stock slump would cool the economy” — so no market consensus had formed at the time this article was written.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “[Stock Prices] Nikkei Average Opens Sharply Lower, Down 1,600 Yen at One Point Amid Oil Surge Concerns.”

  • Sweatpants as Streetwear? Generations Clash on 5ch Over the ‘Convenience Store Look’

    A thread on 5ch’s Hello! Project board heated up over whether wearing sweatpants and sweatshirts as everyday clothing is “uncool.” It started with comparisons to Heisei-era fashion, tracing how sweatsuit-style outfits spread over the past few years following the wide-leg pants boom of 2020–2021. Posters who seemed to be older argued things like “It’s ridiculous to ride the train dressed like you’re just popping into a convenience store,” while younger posters countered that “sweatpants are the mainstream look now,” with the argument dragging on into fine-grained disputes over color and fabric choices.

    6AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:32
    Why 'Heisei-era Reina' style still gets praised (referring to former Morning Musume idol Tanaka Reina)
    9AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:36
    Late Heisei is basically just Tanaka Reina (the Morning Musume idol), right?
    11AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:40
    Hasn't sweats only been a thing since this year?
    Mini skirts were everywhere for the past few years
    2020-2021 was the dark ages of wide-leg pants dominance
    16AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:47
    Re: #11
    Sweatsuit sets have been trending for about three years now
    23AnonymousSep 11, 2026 09:59
    Going out in sweats is pretty dumb, honestly
    Even cost-performance-wise
    27AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:15
    Re: #23
    Sweats are convenience-store-run clothes, you wouldn't take the train in them
    Though if you're going out in your parents' car, it's a convenience-store vibe wherever you end up
    28AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:15
    What about 2008-2019?
    If you're splitting it into three eras, shouldn't it be like this?

    1989-1999: Early Heisei
    2000-2009: Mid Heisei
    2010-2019: Late Heisei
    31AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:17
    Re: #28
    1989-1998: Early Heisei
    1999-2008: Mid Heisei
    2009-2019: Late Heisei

    2019 barely lasted half a year, so this breakdown works better
    32AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:18
    Have you actually seen anyone wearing sweats on the train?
    33AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:20
    Re: #32
    Sweatpants are a K-pop idol influence
    34AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:20
    I don't care whose influence it is, but are people really riding the train in sweatpants?
    36AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:21
    Re: #34
    It's just the trend, that's why
    37AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:21
    If you're wearing sweats, stick to black
    Light gray just screams 'I walked straight out of my room'
    39AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:22
    Re: #37
    That's exactly the old-guy mentality
    48AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:25
    Re: #39
    I'm in my late 20s, but wearing gray sweats as streetwear is embarrassing, no thanks
    44AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:24
    Only middle-aged guys wear jeans anymore
    Sweatpants are the superior choice now
    72AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:33
    Re: #44
    At my local shopping center, the gals are wearing denim shorts, ripped jeans, even nostalgic bell-bottoms
    Sweats are only for the gals who look like they literally walked out in their pajamas
    46AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:24
    "If you're wearing sweats, stick to black"
    —said the old guy
    62AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:29
    Re: #46
    Someone with zero taste who doesn't even realize light gray looks even more like loungewear
    53AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:26
    Give it another 20 years and even early Reiwa will get the 'those were the good old days' treatment
    58AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:27
    Re: #53
    Nah, it won't
    57AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:27
    Clothes don't really matter
    As long as your face and figure are good
    And the reverse is true too
    64AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:30
    Re: #57
    If your clothes are lame, people will be embarrassed to be seen next to you
    61AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:28
    I've finally stopped wearing blue jeans, even I have to admit
    67AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:31
    Re: #61
    Correct call — light-wash denim is too casual and doesn't suit older guys
    Gray or black is the way
    63AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:29
    Dance culture went mainstream, and that's how sweats earned a spot in fashion
    66AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:30
    Re: #63
    Thinking that's stylish is exactly what makes someone lame
    71AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:33
    Re: #63
    Fine for dance practice, sure
    But wearing practice clothes as streetwear shows zero taste
    75AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:36
    Re: #72
    I'd prefer you call them 'distressed denim' lol
    79AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:38
    Re: #75
    They weren't distressed, they just had square holes in them
    77AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:38
    Re: #71
    See, that mindset itself is outdated
    80AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:38
    Re: #77
    Your values are outdated and lame
    84AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:40
    Re: #62
    The whole concept of this fashion is going out dressed like you're in loungewear or dance-practice gear
    Saying 'black doesn't look like loungewear' means you don't get the concept

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Sweatsuit sets and sweatpants have become a fixture of everyday fashion over the past several years, following the wide-leg pants boom of 2020–2021. One theory floated in the thread was that the trend was influenced by K-pop idols’ off-duty style, but that’s purely speculation from posters, not a verified fact. The debate split along whether sweats-as-streetwear should be seen as “basically loungewear” or as “a style that earned legitimacy through dance culture,” with opinions dividing further down to specifics like color (black versus light gray). What readers shouldn’t mistake this for is a statistical statement about “Reiwa-generation fashion sense” as a whole — it’s just an exchange of subjective opinions on an anonymous forum, and the generational mismatch over what counts as “uncool” is itself the classic shape of this kind of thread.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hello! Project) thread 「[Sad News] Reiwa Women’s Fashion Under Fire for Being Uncool👩」.

  • “PE Class Is Just Public Humiliation”: 5ch Debates Scrapping Gym Class — “Catering to the Kids Who Can’t Do It Screws Over the Kids Who Can”

    An opinion that school PE class “is nothing but an hour of humiliation for kids who are bad at sports, and should be scrapped” went viral on 5ch. PE has long been a divisive subject — in activities like distance running and ball games, rankings and skill gaps are painfully visible, making it easy for less athletic students to develop an inferiority complex. In the thread, opinions supporting PE for its health and developmental benefits clashed head-on with those calling for scaling it back or showing more consideration due to the psychological toll, and the debate escalated into a broader question of principle: should the benefit of the majority take priority over the suffering of the minority?

    1AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:10
    What's with the people against this?
    If you wanna exercise, just go do it on your own time.
    6AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:15
    PE exists FOR kids who can't or won't exercise on their own, that's the whole point.
    13AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:21
    Calling distance running "effort" is peak stupidity.
    Takasu said stamina is determined at birth. (referring to Takasu Katsuya, a cosmetic surgeon and TV personality known for eccentric claims)
    15AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:22
    Re: #13
    Run every day and you'll build stamina.
    Before whining, try running 5km a day and make it a habit.
    18AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:27
    Kids with top grades who get into elite prep schools are usually good at sports too.
    20AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:28
    Re: #18
    I went to a pretty elite prep school and I sucked at sports.
    *sigh*
    19AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:27
    Exercise contributes massively to everyone's health.
    Whether you're good at it or not, there's hardly anything else that's a guaranteed net positive like that.
    21AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:29
    Re: #19
    Listen, everyone ends up a flabby, out-of-shape adult eventually anyway.
    People who want to exercise will, people who don't, won't — with or without forcing it.
    So don't force it.
    25AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:32
    Re: #21
    Do you realize what you're saying? "Cut anything from education that I personally dislike or suck at" — that's a wild take.
    30AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:36
    Re: #21
    What are you even on about, skinny vs. fat?
    The point is that regular exercise during your growth years is a benefit.
    You need it at that age to properly develop your bones and muscles.
    And whatever happens later in life is just speculation on your part.
    I'm saying there's no need to eliminate a proven universal benefit during the growth years just because of that.
    23AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:31
    Sure, getting scolded for not trying or slacking off is fair enough.
    But mocking someone who's trying hard and still can't do it well — that's toxic.
    It really shapes a kid's character.
    28AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:34
    Re: #23
    If you show you're actually trying, people watch warmly.
    The uncoordinated loners are usually the ones who don't even try in team sports and mock others instead.
    No wonder they get looked down on.
    36AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:37
    Re: #23
    Same goes for studying — you can copy the methods of people who are good at something, but your body and brain aren't theirs, so sometimes effort only gets you tiny gains. Yet so many people mock others for that, whether it's sports or school.
    31AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:36
    "For kids who can't do sports, PE is nothing but the arrogant cruelty of humiliation, so it should be scrapped"

    The "arrogant cruelty of humiliation"? lol what does that even mean
    Are you even Japanese? lmao (mocking the OP's garbled, ungrammatical phrasing)
    35AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:37
    Re: #31
    Sorry, typo.
    38AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:39
    Re: #35
    Maybe brush up on Japanese grammar first?
    42AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:40
    Re: #35
    What word were you even trying to type?
    37AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:38
    Re: #30
    More importantly, having your self-esteem crushed in PE and turning into a gloomy adult is a way bigger problem, idiot.
    53AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:42
    Re: #37
    That's not really a downside, it's just a feelings-based claim with no clear cause and effect.
    So what's the concrete, universal downside — big enough to justify taking away something proven to benefit everyone?
    62AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:43
    Re: #53
    Hey, listen.
    Why is the majority opinion treated as absolute?
    If even one person is suffering so badly they want to die, that's a problem even if everyone else is happy, dumbass.
    67AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:45
    Re: #62
    If you start saying that, society stops functioning.
    Why should everything be set to the standard of people who don't even try?
    93AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:52
    Re: #62
    What are you even going on about, "the majority"?
    What I'm asking is: what's the universal downside — on the same scale — that would justify forcibly taking away something scientifically proven to benefit everyone?
    I'm asking why forcing the abolition of a real, proven benefit for everyone else is justified, based on someone's feelings rather than facts.
    45AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:40
    Everything's a learning experience.
    If you get humiliated as a kid, you might grow up less likely to mock other people's failures as an adult.
    54AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:42
    Re: #45
    Isn't this just incredibly mean-spirited?
    59AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:43
    Re: #45
    You've probably never failed at anything in your life.
    Laughing so hard your face scrunches up while turning someone's honest mistake, made while they were trying their best, into a punchline…
    69AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:45
    You should get humiliated at least once.
    Otherwise you end up like Re: #45 — a successful person who still gets a kick out of mocking other people's mistakes.
    85AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:50
    If you cater everything to the kids who can't do it, the kids who CAN do it get shortchanged.
    96AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:52
    Re: #89
    Robbing kids of their potential is the real wrong here.
    Catering to the kids who can't do it is a mistake.
    It's precisely the kids who can't do it who need hands-on experience the most.
    101AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:54
    Re: #96
    Even if you scrap PE, kids who love sports will exercise anyway.
    Think it through a bit more, seriously.
    107AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:55
    Re: #102
    "Nothing but upsides" ← uh, that's exactly why this thread exists, because that's not true ƪ(˘⌣˘)ʃ
    116AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:57
    Re: #107
    Is there any actual downside to teaching kids sports?
    Ball games and the like are basically just play anyway — most kids enjoy them as a break.
    121AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:58
    Re: #116
    THAT'S — WHAT — I'M — SAYING
    it plants a sense of inferiority in you
    it messes with your mental health

    Get it??????
    128AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:00
    Re: #121
    There are endless situations in life that can plant a sense of inferiority in you — you can't eliminate all of them.
    Having that inferiority complex or not doesn't really change your life much.
    Your actual ability stays the same either way.
    132AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:00
    Re: #121
    If you've got an inferiority complex, try putting in the effort to shake it off.
    Getting to an average level at PE-type stuff is easy if you push yourself a bit.
    Just start with running every day.
    Your body doesn't lie.
    120AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:58
    Isn't making kids feel embarrassed sometimes an important part of education?
    Kids who get coddled growing up are more likely to turn into messed-up adults with a wildly inflated sense of self.
    124AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:59
    Re: #120
    Even so, PE singles kids out way too much —
    over stuff they can't even control.
    145AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:04
    Re: #120
    That's basically most of Gen Z these days.

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    The debate over keeping or scrapping PE class is a recurring one, driven in part by the fact that national curriculum guidelines make “physical education” mandatory all the way through elementary, middle, and high school. The thread split over a single question: which matters more — the medical benefit that exercise provides to bone and muscle development during a child’s growth years, or the damage to self-esteem caused by having rankings and failures put on public display? One easy-to-miss point is that the abolition argument isn’t really “exercise itself is bad,” but an objection to the system of ranking and comparison — yet within the thread, “we don’t need exercise” and “we don’t need PE class” ended up getting conflated partway through, leaving posters talking past each other. A difference in values over whether an inferiority complex is something to overcome through effort, or something that shouldn’t be inflicted on kids in the first place, was also part of why the two sides never converged.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread ““For kids who can’t do sports, PE is nothing but the arrogant cruelty of humiliation, so it should be scrapped” — fair point.”

  • Juice=Juice Thread Overrun by Copypasta Spam — Fans Say ‘Now That the Wolf’s Broken, I’ve Lost Interest’

    On 5ch’s Hello!Project board, nicknamed “the Wolf,” discussion kicked off in the Juice=Juice thread after a poster complained that copypasta spam had made the thread so heavy it wouldn’t load anymore. Some said that dodging the spam had left them out of the loop on the group’s recent activities, while others countered that the board was only ever used to get information from thread titles anyway, so the actual content didn’t matter. Some pointed out that setting NG (blocked) words would lighten the load and fix the spam problem, but opinions split between those who’d lost interest now that their only source of information had stopped functioning, and those who called that just plain apathy hiding behind the spam as an excuse.

    1AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:34
    As a result I have no idea what they're up to lately, so my interest is fading.
    4AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:35
    Isn't the Wolf a board where you get your info just from thread titles anyway? Who cares about the actual content?
    6AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:36
    Re: #4
    Thread titles alone are way too short to give you much information.
    9AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:38
    Even when someone tells me they were on TV, I'm just like "wait, seriously??"
    10AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:38
    Re: #9
    So what DO you follow normally then? Underground idols?
    13AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:39
    It gets spammed, loading gets slow, so you stop opening it.
    Naturally you start ignoring the Juice thread.
    And then you fall out of the loop on what they're doing.
    16AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:41
    Re: #13
    If you use ChMate (a mobile browser app), cutting down NG words makes it lighter.
    19AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:42
    Re: #13
    But this thread hasn't been spammed, so you already saw the info in Re: #11, didn't you?
    You saw it and you're just doing the "la la la, I can't hear you" thing — that's you in this thread.
    18AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:42
    Re: #11
    Even if this turns out to be fake news, I wouldn't know and I can't be bothered to check.
    21AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:43
    Re: #18
    You're clearly interested enough to post that.
    You wouldn't have even made this thread if you weren't interested in the first place.
    You wouldn't start a thread called "I have no idea what Rosy Chronicle is up to," would you?
    23AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:44
    Re: #18
    For the record, not a single bit of it is fake.
    20AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:43
    I was more into Juice last year, but now I don't care and I'm getting curious about Angerme instead — weird.
    22AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:43
    Re: #20
    Hope the Christmas event ends up with an early-round lottery frenzy.
    25AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:44
    Re: #20
    You don't actually care about Juice or Angerme either, do you.
    26AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:44
    Re: #23
    I don't even know who you are, so you're not exactly credible.
    29AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:45
    Re: #26
    Lol, as if you're someone people trust either.
    30AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:46
    Re: #26
    Oh, is that so, lol.
    32AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:46
    Copypasta does have one effect: wasting people's lifespan.
    33AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:47
    Re: #30
    Too bad for you.

    Re: #32
    Hate to admit it, but you have to call this a win for the copypasta.
    34AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:47
    Re: #32
    Meanwhile Juice=Juice fans are happily hopping from one fresh-news thread to the next.
    36AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:50
    The only ones who'd say something like the thread title is probably the copypasta guy who mindlessly pastes into every Juice=Juice good-news thread.
    Theory: he's pasting so much he doesn't even know what's in the thread anymore.
    39AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:55
    Re: #36
    Maybe so, but I've also stopped checking the content myself, so it seems to work great.
    37AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:50
    At this point you could just add Juice=Juice as an NG word to stop wasting your data.
    That's basically what the Wolf is now.
    38AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:51
    Re: #37
    Sounds like you're on a cheap data plan.
    40AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:58
    Re: #39
    What do you even watch normally then?
    I'll just say "I've lost interest in whatever you're interested in" right back, so tell me.
    41AnonymousSep 11, 2026 10:58
    Re: #40
    What do you think it is?
    45AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:00
    X (Twitter) is plenty for info, isn't it.
    51AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:02
    Re: #45
    X has way too much noise, I can't even be bothered to look.
    My only source of info — the Wolf — broke down, so I lost interest.
    55AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:03
    Re: #51
    If it's noise you're worried about, the Wolf's always had more of it than X.
    56AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:03
    Re: #51
    Someone who relies on the Wolf as their info source 👈 what's your gender and age?
    47AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:00
    The Wolf has stopped working as a source of info on Juice, huh.
    48AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:01
    Re: #47
    Since I only look at thread titles, all I know about is Juice=Juice.
    57AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:03
    As long as the copypasta guy is around, interest in Juice is never coming back.
    61AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:04
    Re: #57
    Meanwhile groups that AREN'T being spammed are bombing so hard it's brutal — go cheer them on with some numbers.
    58AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:04
    Re: #52
    In my case I'm actually the one spamming Juice=Juice threads on purpose, just to lure in trolls for fun.
    64AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:05
    Re: #58
    Then make a separate thread just for luring them in.
    67AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:06
    Re: #64
    The goal of spreading information is already accomplished by the thread title and the thread's momentum, so it doesn't matter what happens to the content.
    73AnonymousSep 11, 2026 11:08
    Re: #67
    In the end, the thread title is the one thing copypasta can't ruin — that's its limit.

    Background and Points of Debate

    “The Wolf” is the nickname for 5ch’s Hello!Project board, where group-specific threads serve as the main hub fans use to exchange information. These threads have long been prime targets for “copypasta spam” — the repeated posting of identical content — which slows page loading and drives readers away. As mentioned in the discussion, dedicated browser apps like ChMate let users hide flagged posts by setting NG (blocked) words, easing the perceived slowdown, though the underlying spam posts themselves remain. What divided this thread was whether the loss of information should be blamed on the spam itself, or simply on the individual’s own waning interest — with the latter camp pointing out, somewhat paradoxically, that the very post being discussed did get a reaction out of people. There was also a side conversation about whether posters were more invested in Juice=Juice or Angerme, though this reflected differences in individual fans’ enthusiasm rather than any factual matter, and the thread reached no overall conclusion.

    ※This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Hello!Project) thread “The Juice=Juice thread gets spammed so no information comes through.”