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  • Hololive’s Laplus Reports Harassment Despite Closed DMs — Fans Question Agency’s Response

    Hololive talent Laplus has claimed she received harassing content even though her DMs were closed, prompting her agency to issue a warning — but the explanation set off a storm on 5ch. Posters raised technical objections, pointing out that the DM system in question should require mutual follows and a code, making it hard for an outsider to send anything in the first place, and questions piled up over whether the official explanation actually matched the platform’s real specs. The discussion also spread to how people interpreted her own past remarks that sparked the controversy, and to the work habits of her fellow 6th-generation members, splitting opinion across the thread.

    1AnonymousOct 21, 2026 06:51
    Something's off here… 🤔
    7AnonymousOct 21, 2026 06:54
    Did she get mixed up in something on a secret account and it all got tangled?
    8AnonymousOct 21, 2026 06:55
    Re: #7
    It's pretty weird to have the agency officially comment on 'secret account' stuff too, don't you think?
    18AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:03
    'I got chin-totsu'd (sent unsolicited sexual images/comments) — sexual harassment comments make me feel sick, so please stop' ← wouldn't it not have blown up if she'd just said this from the start?
    24AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:06
    Re: #18
    Wasn't 'Horns' (Laplus's nickname, after her dragon horns) totally shut down by '"Your DMs are closed. And even if it wasn't a DM but something you deleted, there's no trace, right?"'?
    20AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:05
    Just checked — apparently she's opened them back up now
    23AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:06
    Re: #20
    They weren't open a minute ago, but they're open now
    28AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:08
    Re: #20
    Why would she bother opening them up lol
    85AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:36
    Re: #20
    Re: #23
    That's not what's happening.
    You guys just don't understand the spec.

    It does open, but you need a code.
    31AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:08
    What about the possibility that DMs were open back then, but she closed them after the harassment started?
    32AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:09
    Re: #31
    Why would she need to bring this up only now?
    38AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:12
    What Laplus was trying to say is that there's a world of difference between a woman making a risqué remark to someone she knows versus some random middle-aged stranger saying the same thing to her — but she said it in her usual in-character tone, so people picked apart her wording for it.
    She's supposedly a pro, so she should've handled that more carefully, but then the agency, trying to smooth things over, brought up the chin-totsu (unsolicited sexual image) issue that hadn't even come up yet, and that's what made it messy.
    39AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:12
    Re: #38
    So basically the agency's the dumb one here
    51AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:19
    Re: #38
    That point does have some merit, but there's also the issue that she ran a stream basically ranking a 'women I'd want to get off to' tier list (shiko = masturbate) — what kind of comments did she think viewers would leave after that? And there's also doubt about whether it was really just close female friends talking privately.
    40AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:12
    They're using people with zero real-world work experience as cash cows, so this level of babysitting is bound to happen
    41AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:14
    Re: #40
    Maybe they're all at 'Mii-chan' level (shorthand for a notoriously immature/problem streamer)?
    48AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:18
    The funniest part is her total stream time this year is apparently only 30 hours. It's pathetic how the 'pigs' (derogatory term for simping fans) keep throwing money at her even though they don't even get shown a plain gameplay stream anymore.
    49AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:18
    People are starting to float the theory that since they were hired during the COVID pandemic, there wasn't a proper vetting process and they ended up with a bunch of random picks. Also, if she was treated as the 'center' among those 5 at the time, does that mean she was the one with the highest expectations?
    56AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:23
    Re: #49
    Actually, her first-person pronoun is the same as the one who got fired right away. The horns thing too — reusing character concepts like that looks really half-assed in hindsight.
    61AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:26
    Re: #49
    It was the period when Hololive was growing fastest, so subscribers and viewers would show up no matter what she did. People are starting to say the 6th gen doesn't understand how hard the earlier generations worked to build that up, and they're just coasting on the Hololive brand.
    50AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:19
    I don't use Twitter so I wouldn't know, but can fans really just freely send images to celebrities?
    108AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:53
    Re: #50
    You can do it via replies, can't you?
    59AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:24
    Re: #51
    That's true, actually. Laplus says it's something she's fine with, but you never really know what the other person's true feelings are. Still, I don't think that kid's wrong that there's a completely different level between that and some random middle-aged stranger sexually harassing her.
    63AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:27
    Re: #59
    Also, there's a difference between privately chatting among women and streaming it where comments come in reacting to it. Of course, some of those comments might have been weird too.
    62AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:27
    Didn't this person's generation/group get into trouble before too?
    68AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:29
    Re: #62
    Yeah, they're famous as the 6th gen where literally everyone has a way-too-high rate of problematic remarks.
    72AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:31
    So is this basically 'OP gets IP-disclosed (sued) vs. Laplus graduates' as the bet?
    73AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:31
    Re: #72
    If they actually come after me with a disclosure request over this, I'll turn it into a meme.
    78AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:33
    If she'd just stuck to 'stop the sexual harassment,' there's no way she could've lost this one — Hololive fanboys ('Hololis') post plenty of creepy comments as it is…
    94AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:44
    Re: #78
    I wonder about that… On Discord, Towa and Laplus are already being called 'traitors.' According to the Hololive purists (lol), even collabing outside the agency isn't okay, so collabing with a guy is apparently an act of betrayal.
    88AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:40
    Re: #86
    The writing style reeks of someone way older — is this really her?
    91AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:41
    Re: #88
    Her IP address matched exactly during a stream, and she's already apologized for it herself.
    92AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:41
    Re: #88
    It's the IP she accidentally self-disclosed during some kind of connection speed test.
    98AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:46
    So from now on we're just supposed to sit back and watch 'Horn Brat' (nickname for Laplus) get sexually harassed without doing anything?
    100AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:48
    Re: #98
    Imagining how awkward the mood's gonna get gives me chills.
    101AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:48
    Re: #98
    Is harassing 'Horns' actually meant as harassment? I always figured it was just the guy's own sexual preference.
    104AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:51
    She explicitly stated the harassment was sent to her Laplus account, not her 'soul'/real-identity account.
    Her manager checks her DMs.
    On X and TikTok, you can't send DMs unless you follow each other.
    TikTok doesn't even let you send images in the first place.
    So it reached her alone via replies or mentions, without a single one of her huge fanbase or any antis noticing?
    110AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:53
    Re: #104
    This story's basically dead in the water.
    112AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:54
    Re: #104
    Even with replies or mentions, her fans would definitely have noticed.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    “Chin-totsu” is slang for harassment where sexual images or messages are unilaterally sent to a streamer, and reports of this kind targeting female VTubers have repeatedly made headlines before. What split opinion in this thread wasn’t whether the harassment happened, but whether it was consistent with the platform’s stated specs (which require mutual follows or an approval code). Since there was no clear explanation of how the harassment occurred despite her DMs being “closed,” voices pointing out the technical contradiction stood alongside those criticizing the agency’s lack of explanation. There’s also an account suggesting the whole controversy started from backlash over her equating risqué remarks between acquaintances with sexual harassment from a complete stranger. The fact that the main point of contention was less the harassment report itself and more the “consistency of the explanation” and the “initial response” is something that’s easy to miss from the article text alone.

    ※This article is compiled as an excerpt/summary from the 5ch (Live News General) thread “[Sad News] Hololive’s Laplus Gets Chin-Totsu’d Despite Having Her DMs Closed“.

  • Next-Gen Consoles Rumored to Cost ¥190,000–¥290,000 Overseas — 5ch: ‘Past ¥100,000 and It’ll Never Fly in Japan’

    Overseas media reported that the next-generation home console could cost between ¥190,000 and ¥290,000 (roughly $1,300–$1,900), sparking reactions on 5ch’s hardware/industry (“geha”) board. The fact that the PS5 Pro has already climbed to $900 (about ¥140,000), and that Valve’s “Steam Machine” has been announced in Japan at ¥189,980–¥264,980, was cited as evidence that this price range “isn’t an impossible number.” The thread split between people asking who would actually buy it at that price, and others arguing it would only strengthen the Switch 2’s position.

    4AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:36
    That's got things backwards — just buy a PC.
    5AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:39
    Even ¥60,000 doesn't tempt me (lit. "my tentacles don't reach for it"), let alone this.
    6AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:40
    They probably hyped up numbers this big just so ¥150,000 ends up sounding "cheap" by comparison.
    7AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:40
    "Who's buying this?"
    "Once it's over $1,000, it's dead."
    "Is there even a point releasing it?"
    "Next-gen was over before it began."
    Even foreign fans are reacting like this
    8AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:42
    "This just makes Switch 2 more valuable."
    "More third parties will support Switch 2 now."
    That's another take from overseas fans
    9AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:43
    How much would you actually tolerate?
    14AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:50
    Re: #9
    Depends on the specs.
    If they roll out some underwhelming announcement that doesn't match the price, it's over before launch.
    10AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:45
    They're saying Xbox could run $2,000–$2,500 — so what happens with PS6?
    12AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:47
    Nah, surely they'll keep the Japanese version under ¥100,000!
    13AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:48
    What idiot's buying this?
    Are they seriously aiming for 10 million units lifetime?
    Tell me how many units they think they'll sell at that price.
    15AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:52
    Thanks for lowering my expectations — there's no way Sony would be that dumb.
    16AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:52
    Even this gen's console is already priced high enough that I don't feel like buying it lol
    Thank god for Japan-only pricing, seriously.
    17AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:53
    Idiots don't get this, but the PS5 Pro already went up to $900 (about ¥140,000).
    There's no way they're launching at $1,000.
    19AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:55
    Even if they eat hundreds of billions of yen a year in subsidies, it'd barely make a dent.
    20AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:57
    Good thing they launched the Switch 2 at exactly the right time.
    21AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:58
    It's mind control — keep raising expectations so the real price feels "cheaper than expected" by comparison.
    Except if it's actually ¥150,000, it's still over.
    22AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:59
    And it'll be starting from zero units sold 😟
    23AnonymousOct 21, 2026 04:00
    They've got nothing left but to double down — calling anyone who won't buy it "poor" lol
    25AnonymousOct 21, 2026 04:00
    And all that gets you is GTA6 going from 30fps to a variable 60fps?
    Hilarious.
    27AnonymousOct 21, 2026 04:03
    To cover a ¥10,000 loss-per-unit, they'd need buyers to pick up 4–5 third-party titles at ¥8,000 (before tax).
    For a ¥50,000 loss-per-unit, that's 20 titles.
    SIE only starts profiting from the 21st title onward.

    That's a heavy burden for SIE given how weak their first-party lineup is.
    28AnonymousOct 21, 2026 04:03
    Once it's past ¥100,000, there's no way it catches on in Japan.
    40AnonymousOct 21, 2026 04:54
    The scary part about consoles is you have to pay just to play online.
    On PC it's free.
    68AnonymousOct 21, 2026 06:14
    Re: #40
    That's only because Valve provides matchmaking for free — and who knows how long they can keep that up.
    48AnonymousOct 21, 2026 05:16
    My RX 7700 XT alone puts out about double the PS5 Pro's performance at 35.17 TFLOPS….
    And while PS5/Pro are both RDNA-based, mine's RDNA3.
    73AnonymousOct 21, 2026 06:42
    Re: #48
    Starting with RDNA3, that dreaded dual-issue thing kicked in, so real-world performance ends up at about half the TFLOPS number.
    52AnonymousOct 21, 2026 05:22
    I wonder how many TFLOPS PS6 will actually have.
    Then again, there's a rumor that RDNA2-and-later chips were locked into an exclusive deal with Microsoft at the design stage, meaning no console besides Xbox can use them.
    Is PS6 still going to be RDNA-based?
    78AnonymousOct 21, 2026 06:51
    Re: #52
    I'll go on record now: the on-paper TFLOPS number is going to explode.
    Starting with RDNA5, that dual-issue setup finally arrives, and the shader-processor count per CU goes from 64 to 128, so the headline TFLOPS figure roughly quadruples.
    PS6 will be 80 TFLOPS, and "Helix" will break past the 100 TFLOPS mark.
    But real performance per TFLOPS will drop to around a third of PS5's, even factoring in RDNA5's improved dual-issue efficiency.
    So the real jump from PS5 to PS6 will realistically be around 2–3x.
    53AnonymousOct 21, 2026 05:30
    The PS5 is already near its ceiling — its CPU performs way below even a current mid-range Core Ultra 5 225.
    https://www.cpu-monkey.com/ja/compare_cpu-sony_playstation_5-vs-intel_core_ultra_5_225
    54AnonymousOct 21, 2026 05:32
    Re: #53
    Still, it was leagues above the PS4's low-power mobile-spec CPU, though…
    58AnonymousOct 21, 2026 05:49
    Famitsu.com @famitsu (2026/06/23 10:02:38)

    Steam Machine Japan pricing revealed!

    ・512GB: ¥189,980
    ・512GB + Steam Controller: ¥204,980
    ・2TB: ¥249,980
    ・2TB + Steam Controller: ¥264,980
    69AnonymousOct 21, 2026 06:21
    Re: #58
    This clearly isn't priced for console-level mass adoption, so it's probably set to turn a solid profit — and even assuming the parts aren't getting the kind of bulk-order discounts a console gets,
    there's no real need right now to chase those bulk discounts, and the next console will be higher-spec than this anyway, so you basically have to expect a price at least this high.
    75AnonymousOct 21, 2026 06:46
    Yeah, this generation really is going to be the last for consoles.
    79AnonymousOct 21, 2026 06:52
    Re: #75
    PS is PS, though (different story for PlayStation).
    81AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:02
    What do you mean about whether publishers will even bother making games for it?
    Most games outside Nintendo's first/third parties are already built around PS5-level performance.
    An 8GB-VRAM PC is already trash below PS5 spec — so once a PS6 with a rumored 32GB VRAM shows up, everyone except 5090 owners is getting forced into an upgrade.
    85AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:16
    Re: #81
    First off, PS6 stops being usable as the baseline — it's just too expensive.
    Everyone will have no choice but to keep developing around PS5.
    93AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:29
    Blame 30 years of zero growth in the Japanese economy.
    95AnonymousOct 21, 2026 07:30
    Re: #93
    Wait, what do you mean by that?

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Home console pricing tracks closely with BOM (bill of materials) costs, and the PS5 Pro’s launch price climbing to $900 (about ¥140,000) has made this latest ¥190,000–¥290,000 estimate feel less like an “extreme number” to many commenters. The thread also pointed to Valve’s “Steam Machine” Japan pricing (¥189,980–¥264,980) as a real-world reference point, showing that high-performance machines not aimed at mass adoption are already selling in this price range. Opinions split over whether buyers would still turn up if the software lineup is strong enough, or whether the console market itself would simply shrink at this price. Reading TFLOPS (a measure of computing throughput) numbers alone and assuming performance simply doubles is premature — real-world performance per TFLOPS shifts across GPU generations, a nuance the headline figures alone don’t convey.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry, “geha”) thread “[Sad News] Overseas Media Reports Next-Gen Console Expected to Cost ¥190,000–¥290,000.”

  • Personal Info of 3,900 Tochigi Police Staff May Have Leaked — 5ch Reacts: ‘This Is Bad’

    It has come to light that unauthorized access to the disaster-information distribution service “Arcadia” may have leaked the personal information — names, departments, phone numbers, and more — of all roughly 3,900 Tochigi Prefectural Police staff. The service was originally a mailing system for safety-confirmation checks during disasters, and it appears police employee data was registered on it as well. The thread ranged widely: worries about scam calls impersonating police using the leaked data, questions over why a safety-check system needed such detailed personal information in the first place, and a running battle of corrections over the difference between the ranks “Superintendent-General” and “Senior Commissioner.”

    10/20 (Tue) 10:54 JST

    Mainichi Shimbun

    Regarding the case in which disaster-information distribution service provider Arcadia Co. (Minoh City, Osaka Prefecture) suffered unauthorized access, raising concerns about a possible leak of personal information, it was learned on the 20th, through an inquiry with the Tochigi Prefectural Police, that the personal information of all roughly 3,900 Tochigi Prefectural Police staff members who used the company’s service may have been leaked.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    2AnonymousOct 20, 2026 17:46
    Is the Superintendent-General gonna get his head on the chopping block for this?
    53AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:10
    Re: #2
    Honestly, a lot of people get this wrong, so let me clear it up:
    the Superintendent-General (警視総監) is specifically the chief of the Metropolitan Police Department (Tokyo).
    Tochigi Prefectural Police's chief holds the rank of Senior Commissioner (警視監).
    "Superintendent-General" and "Senior Commissioner" are ranks above Sergeant, Assistant Inspector, Inspector, Superintendent, and Chief Superintendent.
    In smaller prefectures, the chief holds the rank of Commissioner (警視長) instead.
    No prefectural chief — including the Metropolitan one — has any authority outside their own jurisdiction.
    It's the National Police Agency's Commissioner-General who oversees all the prefectural forces together.
    64AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:14
    Re: #53
    Apparently there's a mountain of people who file complaints about lazy local police… with the night-duty staff at the Tokyo District Public Prosecutors Office, lol.
    172AnonymousOct 20, 2026 22:29
    Re: #53
    The rank "Senior Commissioner" (警視監) only exists at the Metropolitan Police Department and Osaka Prefectural Police. Every other prefecture's police chief holds the rank of Commissioner (警視長).
    24AnonymousOct 20, 2026 17:54
    This is a total mess at this point.
    This is exactly why I said they need a punishment system in place.
    34AnonymousOct 20, 2026 17:59
    Isn't the public basically laid bare already — it's just that most of it hasn't come out yet?
    42AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:02
    Security clearly isn't working here, so they might as well switch to paper.
    Throwing money at this stuff is just a waste.
    44AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:05
    Re: #42
    Pfft, there's no way there's any kami left, zura~ (a pun on 紙/"paper" and 髪/"hair," plus "zura," a comedic catchphrase ending)
    46AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:06
    From now on, scam calls claiming to be officers from Tochigi Prefectural Police are gonna become a regular thing.
    And then the scammers will probably tell victims to go verify their identity with Tochigi Police directly — I mean, lol, they really do exist.
    111AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:52
    Re: #46
    Yeah, this is bad.
    Calls from the "actual" police were already getting hard to trust as it is.
    50AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:08
    Did they sink the Arcadia?? Off with Harlock's head! (a play on Captain Harlock's ship, also named the Arcadia)
    54AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:10
    Re: #50
    "I cast away my life, and still I live on" —

    ah, nah, we're good without that bit (quoting the Captain Harlock theme song)
    51AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:09
    Could this get people stalked by criminal organizations?
    58AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:11
    Re: #51
    Police and politicians are the kind of jobs that attract grudges easily, so
    yeah, the leaked info's probably gonna get used for something worse than just scams.
    56AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:11
    Did info on public security (counter-intelligence) officers leak too?
    60AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:12
    Re: #56
    Better it "washed away" (流失) than that it "wet itself" (おもらし) — way less embarrassing. (a riff on a typo: 流失, "washed away," instead of the correct 流出, "leaked")
    57AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:11
    So this is where it all kicks off for Tochigi Police.

    66AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:16
    Re: #57
    Public security's the scary part.
    Extremists and organized crime groups are gonna be gunning for them, seriously.
    62AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:13
    > It's a system that sends a mass email to staff during disasters to check on their safety

    Do we actually need this thing?
    68AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:17
    Re: #62
    Isn't it more like, "if you're alive after something like the 3/11 quake, get over to XX and help with the rescue effort"?
    Feels like public servants kind of need this.
    76AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:26
    Re: #62
    For real talk: it's so they can issue work orders to staff confirmed safe.
    They need to know immediately who can move and who can't.
    The Wide-Area Emergency Support Unit that backs up the riot police is made up of young officers from local stations and HQ staff, so
    they have to report things like "Tochigi Police can mobilize XX emergency responders" to the National Police Agency right away.
    63AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:13
    Scam calls using the name of a police department that actually exists are gonna be tough to deal with.
    72AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:20
    Re: #63
    Ugh, we're done for.
    They're definitely gonna call saying "This is so-and-so from Tochigi Prefectural Police."
    And if the target is also someone whose driver's license leaked in the Times Car-Share incident, that'll make the call even more convincing.
    What are they even doing…
    75AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:24
    Re: #63
    Scammers never actually get the police or government to do anything for you, so people who fall for it will fall for it the same way they always have —
    it's the in-person visit scams that are gonna be the scary ones.
    67AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:17
    > The service sends a mass email to staff during disasters to check on their safety

    It's just a mailing list! Why the heck would it need the stuff below?? lol

    > names, departments, job titles, cell phone numbers
    73AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:21
    Re: #67
    Not the same service, but back when I was on a temp dispatch job, they made me register my home address and phone number as a disaster emergency contact, lol.
    I've long since left that job, so I'd like to believe they deleted it…
    96AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:41
    Re: #67
    If you don't respond to the email, they'll actually call you —
    a safety-check system's pointless unless it goes that far.
    69AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:18
    Email address alone should've been enough.
    The system's just badly designed.
    Other places are probably at this same level, they just haven't made noise about it.
    90AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:34
    Re: #69
    Probably they used the disaster-info distribution system meant for regular residents to provide a service to the police,
    which is why police staff's personal info ended up registered in there too.
    78AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:26
    The scariest kind of personal-info leak, I'd think, would be from adult/porn sites — so why hasn't a single one of those reported a leak yet?
    Maybe they've already leaked and just haven't announced it.
    89AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:34
    Re: #78
    True that.
    Given how carpet-bombing these attacks have been, it's likely already leaked and the people running those sites just haven't noticed yet.
    108AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:49
    Re: #78
    Maybe because the attackers are using that data themselves??
    102AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:45
    Re: #96
    Wouldn't it be a superior or some other prefectural police staffer making the calls?
    Why would an outside contractor need to know that?
    104AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:48
    Re: #102
    There's a retired officer (OB, i.e. an "old boy"/alumnus) involved in that.
    115AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:55
    Re: #102
    Given how much has already leaked,
    people really need to delete whatever info they can delete themselves, right away.
    143AnonymousOct 20, 2026 19:55
    Easy fix: everyone just moves house
    and changes their phone number and email.
    Problem solved.
    150AnonymousOct 20, 2026 20:14
    Re: #143
    Funny how it's always the people who can't even understand the source article who say stuff like "just move."
    154AnonymousOct 20, 2026 20:32
    Re: #143
    So the scenario is: all of Tochigi Prefectural Police's staff moves out of the prefecture, and Tochigi becomes a lawless wasteland?
    Is that it?

    Though if it actually came to that, I guess they'd just bring in officers from other prefectures — basically swap out the whole staff.

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    This leak is one of a series of issues stemming from unauthorized access to Arcadia, a disaster-information distribution service for local governments, which Tochigi Prefectural Police reportedly used for staff safety-confirmation emails. What sets this apart from a typical personal-data leak is the heightened risk specific to leaking police staff information: scammers and in-person con artists can exploit real department names and real names to make their schemes far more convincing than usual. The thread also saw a string of posts conflating the rank “Superintendent-General” (警視総監) with the chiefs of other prefectural police forces, prompting corrections that a chief’s rank varies by the size of the prefecture, and that only the Metropolitan Police Department and Osaka Prefectural Police have a chief holding the rank “Senior Commissioner” (警視監). How much detailed personal information a safety-confirmation system really needs to collect is also a broader question that applies to disaster-response systems in general.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “[Unauthorized Access] Personal Information of All Tochigi Prefectural Police Staff Possibly Leaked — Arcadia Unauthorized Access.”

  • Kindai University’s Women-Only Study Room Draws “Male Discrimination” Backlash — 5ch Points Out: “There Are 4,800 Study Seats Campus-Wide”

    A women-only study room on Kindai University’s Higashi-Osaka campus has drawn a wave of social media criticism calling it “discrimination against men,” after the university posted a video about it on X. The facility itself has existed for about nine years, since the new main building was built, but a 2026 renovation added new amenities — including a locker room — that are set up for women only, which fueled the backlash. The university, for its part, says that while the women-only study room has 107 seats, the Higashi-Osaka campus as a whole has roughly 4,800 study seats available, and that current students themselves haven’t raised any particular complaints. On 5ch, opinion split between “of course it’s needed as an anti-groping measure” and “the university is treating male students like potential criminals.”

    Oct 20 (Tue), 8:40 AM JST

    ENCOUNT

    “Male Discrimination” Criticism Over Women-Only Study Room — How It Came to Be Installed

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    2AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:26
    Women don't need time to put on makeup or whatever
    3AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:26
    Probably a lot of groping going on there — or maybe just guys hitting on girls
    13AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:31
    Re: #2
    Re: #3
    >"Creating an environment where women can study with peace of mind is wonderful (∪^ω^)w"

    Is it actually dangerous there?
    72AnonymousOct 20, 2026 22:16
    Re: #3
    At night especially, wouldn't you end up studying while keeping an eye on your surroundings?
    4AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:26
    What about a men-only study room?
    90AnonymousOct 20, 2026 22:51
    Re: #4
    But guys don't really want to go somewhere that's all guys.
    Men want to mix in with women — or more like, they want to go into the women's bath, the women's restroom, the women's locker room.
    It never works the other way around.
    181AnonymousOct 21, 2026 05:54
    Re: #4
    Seems like it'd get used for weird purposes.
    Though I guess that's true for women too.
    15AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:32
    It's a university study room, so only students can get in anyway, right? If they need to make it so women feel safe there, does that mean Kindai thinks its own male students might commit crimes?
    20AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:37
    Re: #15
    "Kindai's male students are criminals" must be the university's official stance, then.
    If it's not written on the website, someone should request that they add it.
    111AnonymousOct 21, 2026 00:04
    Re: #15
    Even short of actual crime, guys with zero sense of personal space are annoying to have around while you're studying.

    The more "party" a private school's reputation, the more boundary-less guys it tends to have.
    Give them the bare minimum response and they convince themselves you're into them and get full of themselves.
    160AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:46
    Re: #15
    Re: #23
    Is it even worth the cost to keep a study room running that late into the night?

    Unlike a national or public university, it's private so they have more freedom, but
    7.6% [of revenue] is still taxpayer money.

    Kindai University (school corporation), "Statement of Activities"
    Item — FY2024 settlement
    Subsidy income: ¥11.9405 billion
    Total activity income: ¥157.0101 billion
    Note: one-time subsidies for facility construction etc. are listed separately
    23AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:38
    This is the one that's been there since the new main building went up, right?
    The spot on the first floor that's completely visible from outside.
    Digging up something that's been there since before COVID just to attack it now — how much free time do people have?
    66AnonymousOct 20, 2026 22:04
    Re: #23
    Looking at it the other way, it's already been 9 years, and
    it kind of feels like they were just a bit careless releasing that video now.
    33AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:46
    If it were open to the general public, fine, but
    it's meant exclusively for Kindai students to use — and on top of that, it's "so women can use it with peace of mind."
    So the implication is that Kindai's male students are potential sex offenders.
    34AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:48
    Re: #33
    Giving in to a momentary impulse happens often enough, so there's nothing wrong with cutting the risk.
    If anything does happen, it's the university that gets held responsible anyway.
    39AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:51
    Re: #33
    There are way too many guys who, the second a few of them get together, call it "just horsing around" and do upskirt photos or sexual assault with that bro mentality.
    Meanwhile they'll mock a woman walking alone at night as "not careful enough,"
    but the moment women actually take precautions, they screech about it being "overly self-conscious" or "discrimination against men."
    90% of sexual assault and violent crime in this world is committed by men.
    If anything, men aren't nearly wary enough of other men.
    You never know when you yourself could become some man's prey, either.
    74AnonymousOct 20, 2026 22:21
    Re: #33
    chocoZAP [a 24-hour gym chain] is membership-only too, but since it runs unstaffed late into the night, there have been cases of guys clearly out to pick up women bothering or staring at female members —
    which is exactly why some locations have opened women-only sections.
    47AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:58
    Can't be helped when there are gropers out there.
    Even in libraries, there are guys who stalk women just because they're there.
    Same reason some photo-sticker (purikura) booths ban men.
    If groping didn't exist, the whole concept of "women-only" would never have come up.
    49AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:58
    Just scrap the shared space and make it men-only.
    It's because they don't have the guts to commit to that, that outsiders keep whining about it.
    56AnonymousOct 20, 2026 22:00
    Re: #49
    If you're going to call women-only discrimination, then just make a men-only study room too.
    All the guys can use that one.
    54AnonymousOct 20, 2026 22:00
    I don't really mind that it exists, but I feel like there's a contradiction in their explanation.
    I'd rather they just plainly admit they're giving women preferential treatment.


    "This was established with the aim of creating an environment where female students can study with even greater peace of mind and comfort, and of supporting every student in fully engaging with their studies. It is not intended to exclude or discriminate against students of any gender or attribute."
    61AnonymousOct 20, 2026 22:02
    Re: #54
    So basically, like women-only train cars — men can technically use it too?
    95AnonymousOct 20, 2026 23:14
    Well, I think this kind of backlash is only going to get stronger from here on.
    Even the comments defending it are full of discriminatory attitudes, so you can tell gender equality just isn't happening.
    161AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:56
    You guys lol
    https://p.potaufeu.asahi.com/0459-p/picture/27973918/1f9a2bc3a723e9670b380556c426a1c2_640px.jpg
    191AnonymousOct 21, 2026 06:06
    Re: #161
    Maybe that's the Miwa side of the Toden [Tokyo's old streetcar line]?
    162AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:57
    It's apparently been there for 10 years, so I looked into why it's suddenly a topic now.
    Turns out they renovated it in 2026 and added new stuff like a locker room.
    And guess who's the only one allowed to use that new stuff — women only, lmaooo.
    I'd love to see the face of whoever at Kindai thought this would fly.
    The person who kicked off the complaints was probably a male student too — that's rough, honestly.
    176AnonymousOct 21, 2026 05:38
    Re: #162
    >According to the person in charge, the women-only study room has 107 seats, but study space isn't limited to the Academic Theater — about 4,800 seats are secured across the entire Higashi-Osaka campus as a whole.



    Not what I expected, lol.
    With that much study space available overall, no wonder the students themselves aren't complaining — it's only on social media that the "male discrimination" outcry is coming from.
    194AnonymousOct 21, 2026 06:07
    Re: #162
    It says right there that this started because of a video the university posted on X — can't you even read Japanese?
    The ones kicking up a fuss are probably outside third parties who aren't even students anyway.
    165AnonymousOct 21, 2026 04:45
    Kindai is actually pretty popular.
    It's mid-tier among private universities and not exactly "elite" academically, but it has worldwide name recognition.
    175AnonymousOct 21, 2026 05:34
    Re: #165
    It's "famous" the same way Eromanga Island is — famous for the novelty of its name, not for any real achievement, lol (Eromanga Island is a real place in Vanuatu whose name sounds funny in Japanese, making it a running joke/tourist draw).
    177AnonymousOct 21, 2026 05:39
    Re: #165
    It's a rare university where the density of practical, applied research is totally out of proportion with its admission difficulty.
    Its medicine and agriculture (fisheries) fields in particular are excellent.

    Background and Key Issues

    Women-only spaces on university campuses are a measure that has spread in recent years as a countermeasure against groping and voyeuristic photography, following the same pattern as the debates over women-only floors in commercial facilities or women-only train cars. What split opinion in the thread was a clash of values between “separation for the sake of safety” and “treating people differently purely by sex is discrimination.” The figure the university put forward — “107 seats out of roughly 4,800 overall” — was offered as evidence that, despite the scale of the backlash, the actual share of space involved is small. It’s easy to overlook, though, that this figure covers study seats as a whole and doesn’t really address the actual point of contention: whether women-only facilities like the locker room should exist at all. There are also claims that the facility itself had already existed for about nine years before the renovation, which suggests this controversy likely surfaced because the timing of adding a new feature (the locker room) to an existing facility coincided with a video going viral on social media. It’s also worth noting that the subsidy ratio raised in the thread (7.6% of income) is a figure for the university’s overall operating revenue, and isn’t direct evidence tied to the actual cost of running the study room.

    *This article is composed as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (News Flash+) thread “[University] The “Male Discrimination” Debate Over Kindai’s Women-Only Study Room — What Do the Students Themselves Actually Think? The University’s Surprising Answer.”

  • Pachinko Payout Manipulation Suspicions Spark Debate on 5ch

    A thread on 5ch’s “Nandemo Jikkyo G” board stirred up debate over suspicions that pachinko parlors are secretly manipulating how many balls their machines pay out. Posters cited anecdotal patterns — new machines behaving the same way on their first and second days, certain parlors suddenly loosening up at a fixed time each day — as evidence of “remote rigging.” That drew pushback from others insisting “there’s no such thing as remote rigging” and that “hall computers,” which set a payout rate across an entire bank of machines, are a normal, legal practice. The debate got messier when a poster claiming to be a former parlor employee testified to having manually rigged machines by hand, leaving the line between legal bank-wide adjustments and illegal machine-by-machine manipulation blurry throughout the thread.

    1AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:01
    New machines show nearly identical behavior on day one and day two
    Eva (Evangelion machine), release day 1
    Eva, day 2
    2AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:01
    That's definitely messed up, I thought the same thing
    4AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:02
    Re: #2
    It's rigged at the group/chain level, that's the weird part
    3AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:02
    Just start playing at 6pm and you win, huh
    5AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:02
    Re: #3
    The parlor near me starts paying out at a fixed time every day
    28AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:22
    29AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:23
    Re: #28
    This is for real
    The machines that are "motivated" to pay out tip their hand with early tells right away
    30AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:24
    Re: #28
    Even I lean pretty hard toward the "Tanimura-sensei" school of thought (a well-known pachinko guru famous for reading machines' pre-jackpot tells)
    Though I'm not the type who locks onto one machine with the "osu-ichi" approach (a particular early-test-spin betting style) first thing and grinds it out hunting for ones that look eager to pay
    35AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:25
    There's no such thing as remote rigging, idiot
    39AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:28
    Re: #35
    They can't single out "let's make this one specific machine hit,"
    but hall computers that set a payout percentage for an entire bank of machines are completely normal
    40AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:30
    Re: #39
    Source?
    There's no such thing
    If there were, nobody would ever hit at a dead, low-traffic parlor
    44AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:33
    Re: #39
    So that means a parlor can stay in business whether the nails are cranked tight or wide open, then
    41AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:31
    I used to work at one — if it's an independently-run parlor, manual remote rigging was absolutely a thing.
    A customer who won big last time would get dragged through a brutal losing streak.
    On the flip side, if someone looked like a beginner, we'd let them win 200,000-300,000 yen so they'd get hooked, thinking it was just beginner's luck.
    45AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:34
    Re: #41
    That reminds me, back when I first started I won something like 80,000 yen three separate times at the same parlor
    I never trusted it after that and never got hooked on it
    Though my lifetime total's probably roughly break-even anyway
    53AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:39
    Re: #41
    Throwing out a number like 300,000 yen just shows you're making this up
    58AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:42
    The specs and odds on pachinko machines are all fake, aren't they
    I was playing the Lycoris Recoil machine recently and cleared it, but I hit for 3,000 balls with zero spins remaining, five times in a row
    There's no way that's mathematically possible, it's gotta be rigged
    62AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:44
    Re: #58
    If remote rigging were real, they wouldn't let you hit in a way that looks that suspicious
    66AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:46
    Re: #62
    It's less "remote rigging" and more that I think the total payout for a machine is already predetermined the moment it hits
    The Lycoris machine I played had paid out 30,000 balls four days earlier, then dropped about 95,000 balls into the negative after that
    Then I played it, cleared it, and the graph landed exactly back at zero
    67AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:47
    Re: #66
    Statistically there's nothing weird about that at all
    68AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:47
    Re: #66
    Did it hit right away that day?
    76AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:52
    A 1,000 or 2,000-spin dry spell isn't even rare anymore. They tack on a "charge" feature (a small guaranteed 300-ball payout) just to hide the dry-spell spike on the graph
    78AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:52
    Re: #76
    It's 399 (spins), you know
    86AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:56
    Re: #76
    Doesn't the charge feature ever hit its own dry spell?
    80AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:53
    "There's no benefit to controlling payouts" — yes there is, idiot lol
    82AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:54
    Re: #80
    If there were no benefit, there'd be no need for nail technicians (the specialists who physically adjust a machine's pins to set win rates)
    84AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:55
    Re: #80
    As long as the parlor turns a profit, there's no benefit to controlling individual payouts, is there?
    90AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:58
    Re: #82
    Nail technicians adjust the settings
    What people are calling "control" here is the claim that payouts get adjusted in real time

    So that's a separate issue from nail technicians, and there's no such thing as real-time payout control
    93AnonymousOct 20, 2026 14:59
    Re: #82
    Re: #90
    Setting aside whether remote rigging exists, "nail technicians" (lol) haven't been a real job in ages
    103AnonymousOct 20, 2026 15:01
    Re: #90
    I don't get the point of separating "settings adjustment" from "payout adjustment" — the end result is the same thing, isn't it?
    102AnonymousOct 20, 2026 15:01
    Re: #87
    Failing to pay out fairly is a net negative for the parlor

    Customers who feel cheated like that stop coming back, so it's a loss for the business
    108AnonymousOct 20, 2026 15:02
    Re: #102
    > Customers who feel cheated like that stop coming back
    They'll still show up
    If you believe it's purely random odds, as long as the machine delivers the standard 25 spins per 1,000 yen, you'll keep coming no matter what
    If your bonus streaks don't chain together, you'll just chalk it up to your own bad luck
    124AnonymousOct 20, 2026 15:05
    Re: #108
    No way, no way
    Lose customers' trust and you're done

    A bonus-continuation rate under 50% would stand out hugely compared to other parlors
    There's no point doing something like that
    128AnonymousOct 20, 2026 15:06
    Re: #124
    Doesn't seem like you'd need much trust with addicts who forget everything after three steps, though
    134AnonymousOct 20, 2026 15:08
    Re: #124
    So how is an individual even supposed to tell there's a difference?
    How would you know a parlor's bonus-continuation rate is half that of other parlors?
    Obviously assuming it's a parlor that doesn't publish its data
    116AnonymousOct 20, 2026 15:03
    Re: #103
    That's totally different

    Parlors loosen the nails as a way to show off/advertise
    If they cheated customers there, it'd backfire on them, so real-time payout control can't exist
    119AnonymousOct 20, 2026 15:04
    Re: #116
    The question is what that "showing off" actually leads to in the end
    122AnonymousOct 20, 2026 15:05
    Re: #116
    That's what I'm saying — a customer who 100% believes the manufacturer's published odds won't care no matter how often their bonus streak fizzles out
    They're bound to just think their own luck was bad
    143AnonymousOct 20, 2026 15:12
    I don't know about remote rigging, but it's pretty clear the machine has already decided exactly when it's going to hit
    Otherwise there's no way a machine with a 50% bonus-entry rate ends in a single round 13 times in a row
    What are the odds of a coin landing heads 13 times straight?
    145AnonymousOct 20, 2026 15:13
    Re: #143
    When something's tried tens of thousands of times every single day, stuff like that is bound to happen sometimes
    151AnonymousOct 20, 2026 15:16
    Re: #143
    I once hit a 1-in-2 shot for 2,000 balls 16 times in a row — at roughly 1-in-60,000 odds I just figured, well, stuff like that happens
    153AnonymousOct 20, 2026 15:17
    Re: #143
    If anything, if they could actually control the hits, wouldn't they avoid something that stands out that much?
    147AnonymousOct 20, 2026 15:14
    People saying there's no remote rigging — how do you explain astronomically unlikely odds happening all the time at pachinko parlors nationwide?
    You can't, right?
    That's exactly my point
    152AnonymousOct 20, 2026 15:16
    Re: #147
    Millions of people nationwide are playing every single day, so it's not strange for one or two astronomically unlikely events to happen
    157AnonymousOct 20, 2026 15:18
    Re: #147
    A dry spell three times longer than average is the kind of thing that's guaranteed to show up at every single parlor

    Come back and tell me when dry spells ten times longer than average start happening constantly
    Even then it'd still fall within normal probability when you look nationwide, though

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Pachinko parlors have legitimate, legal ways of managing payouts — “hall computers” that set a payout rate across an entire bank of machines, and nail adjustments made machine by machine. “Remote rigging,” on the other hand — manipulating a specific machine’s or customer’s outcome on the spot — is illegal under Japan’s Adult Entertainment Business Law. In the thread, this distinction stayed blurry throughout, with the central sticking point being that statements acknowledging bank-wide “hall computer” adjustments were easily conflated with claims that real-time remote rigging also happens. Opinions also clashed over astronomically unlikely dry spells and jackpots — some saw them as statistical outliers bound to occur at a nationwide scale, others as evidence of manipulation — underscoring how individual anecdotes alone can’t settle the question. Whether remote rigging actually occurs can’t be confirmed from this thread alone; it’s worth keeping in mind that the claims here remain within the realm of users’ personal experiences and speculation.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Sad News] Pachinko payout control has gotten blatant lately lol.”

  • Wages Up, Wallets Still Empty: 5ch Says Pay Raises Can’t Keep Up With Inflation

    Edenred Japan, which provides employee benefits services, surveyed 600 people — 300 corporate representatives who employ part-time workers and 300 people currently working part-time — and found that over 80% of companies that raised hourly wages said there’s a limit to competing for hires on pay alone. Among part-time workers themselves, many said that even with higher hourly wages, they still don’t feel any more financial breathing room. On a 5ch thread, opinions clashed over how real these raises actually feel: some argued that wage gains are simply being wiped out by rising prices, others said minimum wage hikes are squeezing small restaurants, and still more debated how work patterns are shifting now that the “1.06 million yen wall” has been abolished.

    In recent years, against a backdrop of minimum wage hikes and labor shortages, the environment surrounding hiring and retaining part-time and temp workers has grown increasingly difficult.

    Edenred Japan, which operates the “Ticket Restaurant” meal subsidy benefit service, recently conducted a survey titled “Survey on the Actual Treatment of Part-Time Workers” targeting a total of 600 people — 300 corporate representatives who employ part-timers and 300 people currently working part-time — and has released the results.

    Over 80% of companies that raised hourly wages say competing on “hourly pay alone” has hit its limit

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    9AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:16
    Part-timers always cut their hours to compensate when their hourly wage goes up, huh.
    But then they just spend those freed-up hours messing around on their phones, so no extra free time either way.
    12AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:17
    Re: #9
    That's not because they're off playing around — it's because their take-home pay would otherwise drop (crossing an income threshold).
    26AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:22
    I used to do temp work that didn't even cover transportation costs. It's cowardly not to demand that Heizo Takenaka (the economist/politician behind temp-labor deregulation) and companies that fired temps right before the 3-year mark take responsibility.
    32AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:23
    Re: #26
    Companies that cut temp workers right at the 3-year mark should be forced to pay 10 years' worth of severance, retroactive 20 years, to everyone they let go that way.
    43AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:27
    Back in the deflation days, some places paid ¥600/hour, but gas was about ¥100/liter, a beef bowl was ¥280, and a hamburger was around ¥80.
    Now hourly wages are over ¥1000, but a burger combo runs ¥800+ and even a regular-size beef bowl is about ¥500 — when you think about it that way, things are actually worse now than during deflation.
    143AnonymousOct 21, 2026 00:05
    Re: #43
    Back during deflation, the cheapest shelf at BOOKOFF (secondhand bookstore chain) was ¥100 before tax, the magazine 'MC Axis' was ¥1,200, and Shogakukan's NEO picture-book encyclopedia was ¥2,000 before tax.
    Now the cheapest BOOKOFF shelf runs ¥110–242 tax included, MC Axis is ¥2,200 tax included, and Shogakukan's NEO 'Ancient Creatures' volume has climbed to ¥2,860 tax included.
    68AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:46
    At my company, the default for married women is working full-time while raising kids.
    69AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:49
    Re: #68
    At my company the divorce rate is high — 30% are single mothers.
    77AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:54
    Not that posting something sensible on 5ch these days does much good, but
    minimum wage hikes are really squeezing small restaurants.
    Turning a profit while paying ¥1,300/hour is tough.
    88AnonymousOct 20, 2026 22:02
    Re: #77
    That's why bankruptcy numbers are rising.
    Domestic-facing businesses are probably in for a rough stretch.
    104AnonymousOct 20, 2026 22:23
    Re: #77
    Then they should just close up shop.
    99AnonymousOct 20, 2026 22:14
    Isn't it because the social insurance threshold caps them at 20 hours a week?
    102AnonymousOct 20, 2026 22:20
    Re: #99
    Then just pay the insurance premiums yourself.
    106AnonymousOct 20, 2026 22:30
    Just work full-time instead of part-time.
    108AnonymousOct 20, 2026 22:34
    Re: #106
    Can't — men in this country are hopelessly useless at housework and childcare.
    146AnonymousOct 21, 2026 00:15
    Re: #108
    This isn't only about married people —
    singles can just go work full-time too.
    124AnonymousOct 20, 2026 23:04
    Someone once put it this way:
    inflation causes "cash to degrade."

    Prices are so high in places like New York
    that even people earning over ¥10 million a year
    apparently have zero breathing room in their finances.
    128AnonymousOct 20, 2026 23:13
    Re: #124
    America runs on winner-take-all.
    Half of all consumption comes from the wealthy, and everyone else just fights over the remaining 90%+ — of course it feels that way.
    150AnonymousOct 21, 2026 01:08
    Re: #124
    That's not really about prices — it's the weak yen.

    The yen's real effective exchange rate has fallen to a third of what it was 20 years ago,
    which makes American salaries and prices look absurdly high.
    125AnonymousOct 20, 2026 23:06
    Maybe because hourly wages went up, nobody gets replaced anymore when someone quits.
    So now we have to run things with fewer people, and it's rough.
    129AnonymousOct 20, 2026 23:18
    Re: #125
    Revenue doesn't just magically rise to match, so of course labor costs can't keep climbing forever — that's exactly how you end up there…
    144AnonymousOct 21, 2026 00:07
    Well, groceries have gone up by roughly "¥100 per item,"
    and that's true for almost everything, not just food.

    So when you buy 20 items at the supermarket, you're paying ¥2,000 more than before.
    There's no way a hourly wage bump of a few dozen yen keeps up with that lol.
    151AnonymousOct 21, 2026 01:15
    Re: #144
    Not the sharpest take.

    A ¥50/hour raise adds about ¥100,000 a year in income working full-time —
    that's 50 of those ¥2,000 shopping gaps.
    Depends how much you buy,
    but for a single person that probably covers it reasonably well.

    Minimum wage has risen over 50% in 20 years.
    Policy has been tilting redistribution in workers' favor, so honestly, things aren't that bad.
    155AnonymousOct 21, 2026 01:30
    Re: #151
    If you go around smugly lecturing middle-aged part-time moms and student part-timers like that, people are going to hate you.
    159AnonymousOct 21, 2026 01:45
    Re: #155
    Students and housewives have their "main job" elsewhere, so they should just put effort into that instead.

    Students should get qualifications or land jobs at higher-paying companies.
    Housewives should support their husbands and kids in earning more.

    And of course, negotiating your own pay
    or switching to a better-paying part-time job yourself is the surest route too.

    Sure, it sounds harsh.
    There's never been an era where the mediocre majority got rich.
    You have to become one of the resourceful minority.
    If you don't put in the effort yourself, nothing changes.
    You'll just get outpaced by people who do.
    162AnonymousOct 21, 2026 01:48
    Since raises are percentage-based, having a bigger starting salary just pays off more.
    The poor stay poor.
    Deflation was kinder to poor people.
    164AnonymousOct 21, 2026 01:56
    Re: #162
    An era of "if you don't like it, quit" makes working itself miserable.

    And under deflation you can't even hit your nominal sales targets.

    I used to think the old Watami-style boss mentality (the izakaya chain notorious for its brutal work culture) was just how things were.
    169AnonymousOct 21, 2026 02:27
    Since the "1.06 million yen wall" (the income threshold that used to trigger mandatory social insurance enrollment) was abolished this month,
    please work, work, work, work, and work some more.
    171AnonymousOct 21, 2026 02:35
    Re: #169
    Well, it's simple enough — just work more.
    This is a decent country where an hour of work can cover your food costs.

    In developing countries where labor is paid rock-bottom wages and workers get used up,
    no amount of working makes life any better.
    192AnonymousOct 21, 2026 04:33
    Re: #169
    I'm a part-timer, and when my hourly wage went up, they just cut my contracted hours a bit.
    180AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:34
    Companies don't run and publish surveys like this out of the goodness of their hearts.
    181AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:39
    Ticket Restaurant is a service where employees use tickets provided by their employer to eat at partner stores.

    It's well-suited for small and mid-sized companies that can't afford their own cafeterias,
    and it comes with tax advantages too.
    Since smaller companies struggle to compete with big corporations on wages, the idea is for them to
    boost employee satisfaction through benefits like this instead and compete that way.
    182AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:40
    Re: #180
    I get the angle, thanks for explaining that part.
    But what about raises for the part-timers this company itself presumably employs, lol?
    183AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:41
    Re: #181
    Correction to Re: #182: the thread in Re: #1 is actually about the opinions of part-timers
    cooking food at the partner restaurants affiliated with that Ticket Restaurant service, lol.
    186AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:57
    Re: #182
    Isn't it about the opinions of the people working there?
    You could push back and say the raises are too low, sure —

    but the conclusion isn't "raise wages more."
    It's more like "since wage hikes have their limits, how about we try something else instead?"

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Edenred Japan, which conducted the survey, operates the “Ticket Restaurant” service that provides employees with meal subsidies, and the survey’s underlying motive is to help small and mid-sized companies boost their hiring appeal through benefits beyond wages. The thread’s central debate was the gap between nominal wage growth and how it actually feels in daily life. While some pointed out that the minimum wage has risen more than 50% over the past 20 years, many others noted that the rising cost of everyday goods like groceries has simply canceled out those gains. The thread also buzzed about the abolition of the “1.06 million yen wall” — the income threshold tied to social insurance enrollment — starting in October 2026, which is prompting people to rethink how they work. The key takeaway, one that headline numbers alone don’t convey, is that you can’t really talk about what a pay raise feels like without also factoring in prices and changes to the social insurance system.

    *This article was compiled as an excerpt and summary from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “Even as hourly wages rise… Over 80% of part-timers say they still don’t feel any financial breathing room.”

  • “Studying in Japan Beats China Hands Down” — Chinese Middle Schooler in Japan Opens Up About What Makes Japanese Education Appealing

    A report drawing attention to the fact that the number of foreign residents in Japan has hit a record high of 4.28 million — driven in part by a growing wave of “education migration,” mostly from China — sparked a heated debate on 5channel’s Breaking News+ board. The story described families worn down by China’s brutal exam-prep culture (up at 6am, studying until midnight) increasingly choosing Japan’s more relaxed schools instead. Reactions split between posters acknowledging just how harsh Chinese education really is, comparisons to the grueling entrance-exam experiences of Japan’s “ice age” generation (those who graduated into the brutal 1990s–2000s job market), Japan’s dwindling Nobel Prize count, the large number of Chinese researchers at institutions like RIKEN, and concerns about how these students and researchers are actually obtaining study and work visas. The thread ranged from education philosophy all the way to worries about immigration control.

    Last week, it came to light that the number of foreign residents living in Japan has reached a record high of 4.28 million.

    One reason for relocating that’s been on the rise lately, especially among Chinese nationals, is “education.”

    Amid a fierce exam-war environment where students sacrifice sleep to study starting from middle school — and still often fail their exams anyway — more and more people are reportedly seeking out Japan’s education system for being “relaxed.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousOct 21, 2026 01:28
    Yeah, there's just no beating that.
    32AnonymousOct 21, 2026 01:52
    Re: #2
    And on top of that, they're cutting worthless humanities programs even further and funneling students into STEM.
    There's zero chance a country that pours huge amounts of money into cranking out tons of literature-major women every year (who still can't even speak English) under the banner of "women's empowerment" can win.
    179AnonymousOct 21, 2026 04:37
    Re: #2
    At the end of the day, even with all that effort, the ones who are hopeless stay hopeless.
    That said, since they have a much bigger population, when you skim off just the cream of the crop over there, it adds up to something scary — so we can't afford to get complacent.
    5AnonymousOct 21, 2026 01:32
    Online, these "ice age generation" guys (who graduated into Japan's brutal 1990s–2000s job market) are always quick to say "We worked hard too!" — but surely they studied at least this much, right?
    9AnonymousOct 21, 2026 01:33
    Re: #5
    Thing is, there weren't even any job openings in the first place lol
    46AnonymousOct 21, 2026 02:01
    Re: #5
    Why are you using China's situation as an excuse to bash the ice age generation?
    Is bashing them an excuse for anything at this point…
    No wonder Japan's done for.
    94AnonymousOct 21, 2026 02:40
    Re: #5
    In elementary school it was 1 hour on weekdays and 2 hours on Sundays, though I'd been reading books since around 2nd grade — borrowing like 4 books a week from the city library, plus more from the school library.
    In middle school I'd study until around 2am the week before exams, pulling an all-nighter right before. In high school I got serious in my third year — 10 hours a day total. After graduating, it was about 10 hours a day at cram school.

    Come to think of it, club activities ate up most of my time as a student overall — morning practice, 2 hours on weekdays, plus practice on weekends too.

    Now that I think about it, I guess I didn't actually study that much lol
    52AnonymousOct 21, 2026 02:06
    But that's exactly why their academic and technical skills are catching up to Japan's.
    "Can you fight 24 hours a day?" (a famous 1980s Japanese energy-drink ad slogan)
    You're basically retracing the steps of Japan 40 years ago, back when we crammed just as hard.
    Eventually there'll be a backlash and they'll swing toward relaxed, "yutori"-style education too.
    71AnonymousOct 21, 2026 02:22
    Re: #52
    With Japan right there as a cautionary tale, there's no way they'd be dumb enough to do that.
    "Don't end up like Japan" is basically a universal phrase worldwide at this point.
    81AnonymousOct 21, 2026 02:28
    Re: #52
    No, that's not it.
    It's all "unrestricted warfare" (a Chinese strategic doctrine of using non-military means to win).
    Japanese companies bet their survival on expanding into China and handing over all their technology — they were simply backed into a corner with no other option and had everything stripped from them.
    57AnonymousOct 21, 2026 02:12
    Given its population, the fact that China doesn't produce more Nobel laureates suggests that cram-style education makes you good at formulaic problems but leaves you short on imagination.
    So instead of thinking for themselves, they end up just making use of what already exists.
    60AnonymousOct 21, 2026 02:14
    Re: #57
    Nobel Prizes take decades to materialize after the actual achievement. If it's going to happen for China, it'll be down the road. Japan, on the other hand, looks like it's about to stop producing winners.
    80AnonymousOct 21, 2026 02:28
    Re: #57
    There's probably some truth to that, but
    in a country like the CCP's China, research has to serve the state.
    In other words, it's controlled by the state, so researchers can't work freely.
    113AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:29
    Why didn't China produce any Nobel-caliber scientists before the modern era?
    The only one was Lu Xun, who won the Literature Prize.
    I feel like that's about the extent of their limits.
    122AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:50
    Re: #113
    India doesn't really produce them either.
    Surprisingly, both China and India fall short.

    In the sciences, that is.
    124AnonymousOct 21, 2026 03:53
    Re: #113
    With India and China, aren't they just copying everyone around them rather than developing anything original?

    In science and industry, I mean.
    133AnonymousOct 21, 2026 04:01
    Apparently, from the perspective of China's elite, getting into the University of Tokyo is a total breeze.
    158AnonymousOct 21, 2026 04:15
    Re: #133
    That's only true for grad programs with no entrance exam lol
    Zero of them get into Science III (Todai's ultra-competitive pre-med track).
    167AnonymousOct 21, 2026 04:24
    Re: #158
    Chinese residents in Japan have long been getting into Science I through III in droves, coming out of elite prep schools like Nada, Kaisei, and Rakunan.
    187AnonymousOct 21, 2026 04:45
    Re: #158
    Science III barely has any students to begin with, and all you do after graduating is become a doctor, so it doesn't really move the needle either way lol
    146AnonymousOct 21, 2026 04:08
    Re: #1
    More importantly, what visa are these people even living in Japan on?
    Something's off here.
    153AnonymousOct 21, 2026 04:11
    Re: #146
    I bet they set up a shell company and pose as "investors."
    157AnonymousOct 21, 2026 04:14
    Re: #153
    Seriously? That's bad.
    It's also weird that there are companies founded by Chinese nationals getting visas this way in the first place.
    When Japanese companies do business in China, they're apparently required to set up joint ventures — which basically means being forced to hand over their technology.
    159AnonymousOct 21, 2026 04:16
    Re: #157
    There are plenty of shell companies with no real substance, and there used to be a lot of Chinese brokers who specialized in setting those up specifically to get visas.
    162AnonymousOct 21, 2026 04:19
    Re: #157
    Right. The rule is that China ends up holding 51% of the voting rights in those joint ventures.
    169AnonymousOct 21, 2026 04:28
    Yeah, Japan really is falling apart, isn't it.
    174AnonymousOct 21, 2026 04:34
    Re: #172

    In Japan, even bona fide national research institutes have tons of Chinese researchers working there.

    (Being a national research institute, it's naturally on the opposite side from the Science Council of Japan, which has deep ties to the Japanese Communist Party.)

    RIKEN, the institute that became famous because of Haruko Obokata, has 110 Chinese researchers on staff.

    170AnonymousOct 21, 2026 04:29
    Learning about how intensely Chinese students study makes me wonder if Japan is really going to be okay.
    Won't most Japanese end up less capable than the Chinese?

    I worry about the people out there saying Japan should shut down universities and just churn out more high-school grads.
    176AnonymousOct 21, 2026 04:34
    Re: #170
    It already has happened.
    182AnonymousOct 21, 2026 04:40
    Re: #170
    High schools are one thing, but there are way too many nonsensical universities.
    204AnonymousOct 21, 2026 04:59
    Isn't staying in China the best option for Chinese people anyway? lol
    206AnonymousOct 21, 2026 05:00
    Re: #204
    If you're just living an ordinary life, China is actually better.
    But for the top-tier strivers this thread's headline is about, it's a different story.
    207AnonymousOct 21, 2026 05:00
    Re: #204

    – [Japan National Tourism Organization website]

    "China Market Inbound Marketing Strategy"
    (Published April 2026)
    https://www.jnto.go.jp/projects/overseas-promotion/marketing-strategy/all_china_202604.pdf

    "Focusing primarily on repeat visitors aged 20–40 — the core volume segment for inbound travel — the strategy targets couples/partner travelers (a large market segment), families traveling with children who show strong interest in visiting rural areas, and high-income travelers (whose longer stays are key to boosting per-trip spending), aiming to build and expand a base of repeat visitors.
    Since overseas travel among younger people is expected to keep growing, first-time visitors will be approached with a focus on those in their 20s-30s, in order to create repeat visitors and encourage trips to rural areas.
    Additionally, to further boost per-trip spending, encourage rural visits, and cultivate future fans of travel to Japan, sub-targets will include groups of friends/hobby companions, solo-travel-oriented travelers, and those interested in educational travel."

    (Below this, the original goes on to detail specific appeal strategies and messaging aimed at Chinese tourists.)

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    Behind this report lies the sheer brutality of China’s “zhongkao” and “gaokao” entrance exams (the middle-school and university entrance exams, respectively). Studying until late at night starting from middle school is treated as the norm, and a system where failing the exam drastically narrows one’s future options is pushing people toward relocating to Japan for education. Within the thread, opinions split between those who viewed Japan’s more relaxed education favorably and those who raised concerns about the rising number of Chinese nationals from the standpoint of immigration control and visa-system operations. As one poster pointed out, with 110 Chinese researchers on staff at RIKEN alone, the internationalization of research institutions is already well underway — a reality that doesn’t fit neatly into a simple “threat” versus “vitality” binary. Some argued that the low number of Nobel laureates reflects the limits of the education system, but others countered that it’s premature to draw a direct line to the current system’s merits, since there’s typically a multi-decade lag before achievements are recognized with a Nobel Prize.

    *This article is composed of excerpts and a summary from the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread ““There’s not much stress in Japan. In China I’d wake up at 6am… and study until midnight” — A middle schooler who moved to Japan from Beijing two years ago talks about “the appeal of Japanese education”.”

  • The Switch 2 Has “Too Many Games to Play” Problem — 5ch: “Switch 1 Never Had This Much by Year Two”

    In a thread posted to 5ch’s Hardware/Industry (Geha) board, a Switch 2 user listed the games they’re planning to play — Fire Emblem, Monster Hunter Wilds, Stellar Blade, Metaphor, Metroid, and more — and the sheer number of titles drew replies calling the lineup “almost too packed.” Some pushed back, though, arguing that third-party sales have actually been weak and the console “isn’t really selling as well as it looks.” From there the conversation spiraled into an argument over domestic and overseas sales figures for Metroid Dread and Metroid Prime 4.

    1AnonymousOct 20, 2026 16:10
    Playing Fire Emblem right now
    Ocarina of Time
    Monster Hunter
    2AnonymousOct 20, 2026 16:15
    Stellar Blade
    Metaphor
    Ocarina (of Time)
    Wilds
    Layton
    Metroid

    yeah that's a lot
    29AnonymousOct 20, 2026 16:57
    Re: #1
    Re: #2
    I bet more than half of those won't sell
    Third-party stuff has genuinely been struggling on Switch lately
    4AnonymousOct 20, 2026 16:18
    Banshi's volume is stupid, so my backlog keeps piling up
    5AnonymousOct 20, 2026 16:18
    Still haven't finished Elden Ring
    9AnonymousOct 20, 2026 16:23
    Persona launched day one on Switch so I don't even need a PS anymore
    11AnonymousOct 20, 2026 16:25
    Re: #9
    Persona 6 will probably end up the same way
    I mean even Persona 4's exclusivity window shrank to just 3 months
    Timed exclusives have gotten so weak that's about all they can manage now
    21AnonymousOct 20, 2026 16:42
    Another Eden → Tales of Eternia → FF Resonance → Dragon Quest Monsters → Romancing SaGa 3
    26AnonymousOct 20, 2026 16:45
    Re: #21
    Oh right, Monsters 4 too

    Stellar Blade
    Ocarina (of Time)
    Metaphor
    Monsters 4
    Wilds
    Layton
    Metroid
    Romancing SaGa 3
    Revelation
    Persona 4

    can I actually get through all this?
    22AnonymousOct 20, 2026 16:43
    I kind of envy people with "nothing-to-look-forward-to syndrome" (a 5ch joke tag for folks who never get hyped about anything)
    this stuff costs money and eats up time, I'm swamped
    25AnonymousOct 20, 2026 16:44
    Re: #22
    Yet you've got time to post here?
    24AnonymousOct 20, 2026 16:44
    Good for you, nothing but trash games then 😊
    27AnonymousOct 20, 2026 16:48
    Re: #24
    Talk about the "Trash Station" (mocking nickname for PlayStation) is off-topic here
    36AnonymousOct 20, 2026 17:03
    Think you'll still be saying that a year from now?
    37AnonymousOct 20, 2026 17:04
    Re: #36
    A year from now we'll have Kingdom Hearts 4, Pokémon, and Xenoblade Genesis too
    If anything, next year's when things really kick off
    43AnonymousOct 20, 2026 17:08
    Fire Emblem's volume caught me off guard
    it's so much fun I'm not complaining though
    44AnonymousOct 20, 2026 17:09
    Re: #43
    It's like 5 times bigger than what I imagined before launch lol
    57AnonymousOct 20, 2026 17:27
    I don't think the lineup was ever this packed even in Switch 1's first or second year
    especially third-party titles
    it's genuinely insane
    though Nintendo's own titles were strong from launch
    58AnonymousOct 20, 2026 17:29
    Re: #57
    Yeah, Switch 1's second year really did feel short on games. Looking back at my purchase history, I barely bought anything. Fortnite saved me back then
    65AnonymousOct 20, 2026 17:58
    Dread sold at least 300k domestically, right?
    what's with this "it never sells" narrative
    67AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:00
    Re: #65
    And that counts as selling well?
    66AnonymousOct 20, 2026 17:59
    It's weird that people are turning a thread about what games we're planning to play into a sales-numbers argument
    68AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:00
    Re: #66
    This is the game industry board — "I just want to enjoy my games" attitude belongs elsewhere, get out
    70AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:01
    Re: #67
    It does sell well
    sorry to ruin your attempt to nitpick
    but including overseas sales it's 3 million
    71AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:03
    Re: #70
    So that's Persona 3 Reload-level numbers then
    73AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:03
    Re: #65
    What about the one that came out earlier this year?
    77AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:05
    Re: #73
    No Metroid game released this year lol
    look stuff up before you post
    79AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:06
    Re: #77
    Metroid Prime 4 be like, "Uh, excuse me?"
    88AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:11
    Re: #77
    Oh really, my bad
    but did that one sell well domestically?
    75AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:04
    Re: #71
    Yeah, true
    Metroid's always been like a fifth-string title for Nintendo anyway, so that's plenty
    78AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:06
    Re: #75
    Running away from the "it sells well" argument, huh
    81AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:08
    Re: #78
    Tried to troll and got mad when told Metroid actually sells?
    sorry about that
    83AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:09
    Re: #81
    Is 3 million really "selling well" though
    Persona 3 Reload has way more players once you count Game Pass — and 3 million is just the people who actually paid for it
    86AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:10
    The fact that you keep dodging into Dread talk instead of discussing Prime 4 already gives the answer away, hater
    89AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:11
    Re: #86
    You only ever said "Metroid," nothing more specific
    if you wanted to talk about Prime 4 specifically, you should've said so from the start
    you lose
    90AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:12
    Obviously you judge it by the latest title's numbers, not past glories
    96AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:18
    By "latest title" you mean the one just shown in the Direct?
    it hasn't even released yet, so we can't know
    97AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:25
    Re: #96
    The one just announced hasn't released yet, so it's not the "latest title"
    the latest title is Metroid Prime 4
    102AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:36
    A new Metroid game doing 50k in first-week physical sales would already be considered good
    104AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:39
    Re: #102
    That's still more than every game Sony's put out this year combined

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The thread originally set out to discuss how many games users had lined up to play, but partway through it veered into a dispute over each title’s actual sales figures, turning into a back-and-forth where posters talked past each other. The sticking point was how well the mentioned titles are really selling — the specific numbers floated (300,000 domestic, 3 million including overseas, etc.) were figures individual posters threw out themselves, not official tallies. The thread also touched on the Persona series’ “timed exclusivity” arrangements on other platforms, and some compared the current lineup to the software drought in Switch 1’s first one to two years — with posters using different yardsticks for how “packed” the Switch 2 lineup really is, which is part of why the discussion talked past itself. Opinions were similarly split on Metroid: whether to judge it by the franchise’s past track record or by the latest individual title’s numbers.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry – Geha) thread “I’m a Switch 2 user and I’ve got way too many games lined up to play.”

  • Tokyo Verdy signs hometown agreement with Shibuya Ward — 5ch: ‘Finally a hometown inside the 23 wards, huh’

    On October 19, Tokyo Verdy signed a “Basic Agreement on Cooperation for Sports Promotion Toward Realizing an Inclusive Society” with Shibuya Ward, making Shibuya a new hometown of the club. The two parties have a history of cooperating on sports programs for people with disabilities, including para-sports experience classes. The 5ch thread sparked debate over where the club’s actual home base even is — Chofu, Kawasaki, or Tama — and spread into worries about the team sitting at the bottom of the league table, the club’s past decision to turn down a buyout offer from CyberAgent, and its relationship with CyberAgent CEO Susumu Fujita, who owns Machida Zelvia.

    Tokyo Verdy announced on October 19 that it had signed a “Basic Agreement on Cooperation for Sports Promotion Toward Realizing an Inclusive Society” with Shibuya Ward.

    With this agreement, Shibuya Ward becomes a new hometown of Tokyo Verdy.

    Tokyo Verdy and Shibuya Ward have worked together for many years on sports programs for people with disabilities, including para-sports experience classes (Para-Sports Experience Classes | Other Initiatives | Shibuya Ward Portal).

    Source: soccer-king.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:05
    Re: #1
    Shibuya Ward: "But please don't cause a ruckus at the scramble crossing."
    5AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:06
    So where was the hometown until now anyway?
    It wasn't Todoroki (Kawasaki Frontale's stadium), right?
    10AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:09
    Sounds like this is really about getting subsidies from Shibuya Ward
    11AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:11
    Verdy's long-cherished dream of a hometown inside the 23 wards comes true lol
    The team struggled to land sponsors, but it worked out well in the end
    12AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:12
    Are they gonna get a dedicated stadium built next to NHK in Yoyogi Park or something?
    13AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:13
    Is Machida owner Susumu Fujita stomping his feet in frustration right now?
    64AnonymousOct 20, 2026 22:10
    Re: #13
    Exactly
    He bought Machida because he wanted to build a soccer version of "Shibuya's ABEMA" lol (ABEMA being CyberAgent's Shibuya-based streaming service)
    68AnonymousOct 20, 2026 22:17
    Re: #64
    When he bought Machida, he said it was because the club matched his ideal of a community-rooted team
    If he tries to move it into central Tokyo, fans will turn their backs on it just like they did to Verdy back in the day
    22AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:17
    Being serious for a second, it's Chofu, right?
    25AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:19
    Re: #22
    But the office and training ground are in Kawasaki City??
    31AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:27
    Re: #25
    Verdy's part of the Yomiuri Group, so isn't it under the same umbrella as the Giants?
    Their office is near Yomiuriland
    23AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:18
    Huh?
    24AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:19
    They should build a new stadium in Shibuya
    It'd be convenient too
    26AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:20
    Verdy's so weak they look headed for relegation
    Spend some money and strengthen the squad
    The gap with FC Tokyo is way too big
    28AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:22
    Re: #26
    Can't spend money you don't have
    Turning down CyberAgent's buyout offer was a foolish move
    30AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:24
    Long-term, isn't this a candidate to be the strongest club?
    There's almost no league out there where the capital's team is weak
    39AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:34
    Re: #30
    The real candidate for strongest is FC Tokyo (3rd in the league)

    FC Tokyo: 7 wins, 2 draws, 1 loss — 23 points (3rd)
    Tokyo Verdy: 0 wins, 4 draws, 6 losses — 4 points (20th)
    33AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:29
    Re: #1
    What happens to Shibuya FC?

    Not even sure if that exists though
    48AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:43
    Re: #33
    There's Criacao Shinjuku in the JFL
    They could move up to the J.League eventually
    Verdy was originally a Tokyo club, but since National Stadium is government property, they weren't allowed to use it as their home stadium
    When the J.League launched, Ajinomoto Stadium didn't exist yet and Nishigaoka was too small
    The J.League normally bans clubs from relocating their home base, but Verdy was granted an exception to return to Tokyo due to its special circumstances
    82AnonymousOct 20, 2026 22:56
    Re: #33
    There's already a team called Shibuya City FC
    Though this season they finished 5th in the Kanto Division 1, so they haven't even reached the Regional Champions League, let alone promotion to the JFL
    36AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:33
    Let's build a dedicated stadium in the airspace above Shibuya Station
    38AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:33
    Re: #36
    It's already under construction, so the timing's perfect
    41AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:37
    Tokyo Verdy's a club with such a long history, yet
    It's sadly just background noise these days
    72AnonymousOct 20, 2026 22:31
    Re: #41
    These days they're more known for esports
    47AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:43
    Realizing an inclusive society
    People with disabilities
    Promoting health
    Healthy development of youth
    Contributing to the community

    Buzzwords dancing all over the place, it's cringe-inducing
    Is this a government body talking?
    Are they just hunting for a municipality willing to fund them?
    50AnonymousOct 20, 2026 21:45
    Re: #47
    Way too creepy, kinda scary
    59AnonymousOct 20, 2026 22:02
    Re: #39
    Even if it happened somewhat by circumstance, FC Tokyo ("Gasu") succeeded at being community-rooted out in Tama, so moving into the 23 wards at this point won't make Verdy popular.

    Back in the old days, Verdy was a flashy club with nothing to do with "community roots," and that's exactly why it had nationwide popularity.

    About five years ago there was a symposium about building a dedicated stadium around the track field in Yoyogi Park, and Saburo Kawabuchi, invited as a guest, commented that Verdy would actually suit that spot better than FC Tokyo ("Gasu").
    62AnonymousOct 20, 2026 22:09
    Re: #59
    Did they completely pull out of the Joto area (eastern Tokyo)?
    61AnonymousOct 20, 2026 22:06
    I think the reason fans haven't taken root is simply because the team is weak
    66AnonymousOct 20, 2026 22:12
    Re: #61
    Compared to the J2 days when only 3,000 people showed up, it's improved dramatically
    69AnonymousOct 20, 2026 22:18
    Image-wise it's like
    Verdy = Shibuya
    FC Tokyo = Tama
    76AnonymousOct 20, 2026 22:43
    Re: #69
    Forget the image, it's Kawasaki
    83AnonymousOct 20, 2026 22:59
    Well, a big city like Tokyo has so many other forms of entertainment to enjoy
    J.League probably just doesn't fit in within the 23 wards
    85AnonymousOct 20, 2026 23:02
    Re: #83
    More than that, hardly anyone there is actually a local — they're almost all transplants, whether from elsewhere in Japan or abroad
    Areas like Katsushika or Adachi probably still have genuine locals though
    88AnonymousOct 20, 2026 23:05
    Re: #83
    Soccer matches basically finish on schedule, and if you build the stadium in a good location it'll fit right in
    86AnonymousOct 20, 2026 23:02
    I thought one of the J.League's founding principles was not to put a team in Tokyo — is that not a thing anymore?
    89AnonymousOct 20, 2026 23:06
    Re: #86
    Wasn't it just that Tokyo didn't have a stadium and club that met the requirements?

    Background and key points of this topic

    Under the J.League’s hometown system, a club can sign agreements with multiple municipalities, and it’s not unusual for the ward or city a club designates as its home base to differ from where its office and training facilities actually are. In Tokyo Verdy’s case, the operating company and training ground are located near Yomiuriland in Kawasaki City due to the club’s ties to the Yomiuri Group, while most official matches are played at Ajinomoto Stadium in Chofu City. The thread’s disagreement stems from the gap between this “reality” and the announcement that “Shibuya Ward has become a hometown” — which is why so many posters pointed out that Chofu, Kawasaki, or Tama could each be considered the real home base. The article itself doesn’t mention Verdy’s past rejection of a buyout offer from CyberAgent or the fact that the company later acquired FC Machida Zelvia, but the discussion is easier to follow if read in the context of Verdy searching for new partners to shore up its weak financial footing. It’s also easy to misread the agreement as announcing a new stadium or a relocation of the club’s home base, when in fact it’s simply a cooperative arrangement around things like promoting sports for people with disabilities.

    ※This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Geisoku+) thread “[Soccer] Tokyo Verdy: Shibuya Ward becomes new hometown… signs “Basic Agreement on Cooperation for Sports Promotion Toward Realizing an Inclusive Society”.”

  • Chiikawa Movie Box Office Hits ¥18.1 Billion — Claims It ‘Beat Pokémon’ Draw Pushback

    A thread on 5ch’s “Hardware/Industry” (Geha) board claimed that Chiikawa’s popularity has now completely eclipsed Pokémon at its peak. The evidence cited was the box-office run of “Chiikawa the Movie: The Secret of Mermaid Island,” reportedly sitting at ¥18.1 billion in revenue and 12.42 million admissions as of day 87 (October 18, 2026). That set off a wave of pushback in the thread: even granting that the movie alone outperforms every Pokémon film ever made, Chiikawa still doesn’t come close to matching a true social-phenomenon-scale spread like Pokémon GO, or the overall brand heft once you count games and trading cards. The thread also got into how many more years the Chiikawa brand can realistically keep this up.

    1AnonymousOct 20, 2026 17:58
    Insane.
    5AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:03
    The movie's a smash hit too

    "Chiikawa the Movie: The Secret of Mermaid Island" has passed ¥18.1 billion in box office revenue and 12.42 million admissions as of day 87 (October 18, 2026).
    6AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:08
    I feel like Pokémon at its peak was bigger than even Demon Slayer though
    35AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:52
    Re: #6
    Obviously it's way bigger, no contest
    Plus it's been running a market on a completely different scale for decades now
    With Pokémon GO you'd see people of every age out there playing
    THAT's what a real social phenomenon looks like
    These days people slap the "social phenomenon" label on any half-baked hit
    7AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:09
    So "the movie too" implies it's beaten Pokémon in total brand revenue as well?
    What are the actual numbers for Chiikawa and Pokémon, respectively?
    8AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:09
    With a fanbase that's 80% women, the popularity among men is really too low
    9AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:11
    • 1st: Pokémon the Movie: Mewtwo Strikes Back (1998) – ¥7.24 billion
    • 2nd: Pokémon the Movie: Revelation Lugia (1999) – ¥6.2 billion
    • 3rd: Pokémon the Movie: Diamond & Pearl – Dialga vs. Palkia vs. Darkrai (2007) – ¥5.02 billion
    11AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:14
    Pokémon's games, cards, and merch are amazing, but
    I wonder why the anime never really took off
    13AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:17
    Re: #11
    Well, simply because it's aimed at kids, probably
    56AnonymousOct 20, 2026 19:35
    Re: #11
    Honestly the anime's quality just isn't great
    It's not "because it's for kids"
    There are plenty of shows aimed at kids or even preschoolers that are good enough to get adults saying they're great
    19AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:22
    Why couldn't Sony ever create characters on this level, like Pokémon or Chiikawa
    28AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:42
    Re: #19
    Because they looked down on kids as just "kiddie stuff"
    20AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:23
    "I hate Pokémon so much… isn't there something similar I could use… wait, Chiikawa's on a plane?


    THAT'S IT!!!"


    You think people are seriously thinking like this all day long? Scary, right?
    21AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:31
    Scalper bait with no telling how long it'll last
    that's Chiikawa for you
    24AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:34
    Given how massive the Chiikawa boom is, it's kind of impressive the game still flopped
    25AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:35
    Make an actual decent game instead of an ad-riddled app like Chiipoke
    27AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:40
    They're collaborating with Pokémon and on friendly terms — there's no "who's above who" here
    29AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:43
    Chiikawa is already eagerly awaited even in countries where it hasn't aired yet, so the potential is insane
    30AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:43
    Something more like watching them or giving them food would suit it better than a battle game
    to match creator Nagano's own tastes
    like a collab with ramen chain Yamaokaya or tonkatsu chain Katsuya — scan your receipt's QR code and get fed the same meal in-game
    34AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:48
    The admission-bonus merch scheme for the Chiikawa movie is beyond excessive — how many "parts" are they gonna milk, this is already #7
    My kid's seen it 6 times already because of it
    Please just stop with the bonus-merch gimmick, reserving theater seats alone is already a nightmare
    37AnonymousOct 20, 2026 18:55
    Re: #34
    You don't have to do whatever your kid says
    Just stop taking them
    63AnonymousOct 20, 2026 19:50
    Plenty of characters have overtaken Pokémon before
    but they all lost steam within 5 years and fell back below Pokémon
    72AnonymousOct 20, 2026 20:06
    Re: #63
    Nobody beats them on annual revenue (it's literally in the trillions to begin with)
    but there have been plenty of cases of someone briefly overtaking them in one specific category
    Heck, even Yu-Gi-Oh! was beating the Pokémon TCG up until about 10 years ago
    Man, it's already been 10 years since the "Link Shock" too (the 2017 rule change that upended Yu-Gi-Oh!)…
    66AnonymousOct 20, 2026 19:53
    3 years from Sword/Shield to Scarlet/Violet
    5 years from Scarlet/Violet to WW


    T-that's bad
    69AnonymousOct 20, 2026 19:56
    Re: #66
    Starting from Pokémon's 11th generation, it'll go back to a 3-year cycle
    89AnonymousOct 20, 2026 23:21
    Without anyone really noticing, ANA's special jet livery went from Pokémon to Chiikawa
    90AnonymousOct 20, 2026 23:30
    Re: #89
    Both the Chiikawa and Pokémon planes are flying
    ANA's really spoiling us
    91AnonymousOct 20, 2026 23:53
    The real question is whether Chiikawa sticks around long-term as a kind of twisted version of the Anpanman slot (Anpanman being Japan's famously evergreen kids'-character franchise)
    Digimon, Yo-kai Watch, whatever — every rival that threatened to challenge Pokémon ended up imploding on its own somewhere along the way
    93AnonymousOct 21, 2026 00:39
    Re: #91
    The risk factor is that it all hinges way too much on creator Nagano
    A lot gets accepted just because "it's Nagano's call"
    and there's a ton of things only Nagano is able to decide
    101AnonymousOct 21, 2026 02:38
    The Pokémon Card movie's tickets are gonna sell out in seconds, I bet
    102AnonymousOct 21, 2026 02:56
    Re: #101
    It's gonna be so over-the-top gross, how many people are gonna throw up
    If they add attendee-exclusive cards on top of that, it'll be swarming with hardcore scalpers for real

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    Since Pokémon’s game debut in 1996, its market — once you factor in cards, merchandise, and Pokémon GO — is estimated at several trillion yen annually, and the thread itself noted it’s “a true social phenomenon that reaches people of every age and gender.” Chiikawa, by contrast, is a character born on social media in 2020, and its history as a movie franchise spans only a few years so far. The ¥18.1 billion figure that sparked this discussion does top the best-performing Pokémon film of all time on a single-movie basis (the record holder, Mewtwo Strikes Back, made ¥7.24 billion), but most posters in the thread felt Pokémon still leads once you compare the full brand picture, including games and trading cards. In other words, what’s easy to miss is that the two sides were arguing past each other: one comparing a single movie’s box-office run, the other comparing the cumulative strength of a decades-old brand — different yardsticks entirely. The two franchises also have a collaborative relationship, including a Pokémon Card x Chiikawa crossover, so it isn’t really a simple matter of one ranking above the other.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry, aka “Geha”) thread “[Great News] Chiikawa’s Popularity Completely Surpasses Pokémon at Its Peak lol lol lol lol lol lol“.