Category: Tech

  • Speed skater Miho Takagi joins Wacoal as external researcher — 5ch: ‘Huh, turns out they went way back’

    Miho Takagi (32), the women’s speed skating Olympic gold medalist who received the National Honor Award last month, has been announced as an external researcher — a “Human Performance Fellow” — at Wacoal’s Human Science Research and Development Center, effective September 1. Takagi’s ties to Wacoal date back to her high school days, and since 2019 she’s held a partnership contract for the conditioning wear brand “CW-X,” making for a six-and-a-half-year relationship. On 5ch, opinions were split: some saw sense in putting her competitive experience to use in product development, while others were skeptical, asking “Isn’t this just a promotional gig?” and “Does it actually relate to her sport?”

    9/11 (Fri) 14:41

    Major lingerie maker Wacoal announced on the 10th that Miho Takagi (32), the women’s speed skating Olympic gold medalist who received the National Honor Award last month, was appointed on the 1st as an external researcher — a “Human Performance Fellow” — at the company’s Human Science Research and Development Center. Going forward, the perspective and physical sense Takagi honed through competition will be put to use in research activities and product development. Wacoal also said it plans to share details of her activities through its own media channels.

    Wacoal’s relationship with Takagi began back in her high school days, and in 2019 she signed a partnership contract for the conditioning wear brand “CW-X,” which she herself uses. Wacoal explained, “Since [2019], we’ve built our relationship over roughly six and a half years through product-development interviews and information sharing.” According to Wacoal, Takagi has also shown interest in topics like conditioning and healthy life expectancy.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    5AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:09
    Does this even have anything to do with speed skating?
    Or is it just a promotional hire?
    39AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:39
    Re: #5
    It's both, really.
    Sports apparel actually does produce gear that ends up restricting your movement, so there's real value in having someone who's actually competed serve as the guinea pig for testing it.
    50AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:45
    Re: #5
    Honestly, thinking it *doesn't* relate is the scary part.
    9AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:10
    Isn't she going to become a commentator or a coach instead?
    19AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:18
    Re: #9
    She's an external researcher, so this is probably on top of whatever else she's doing.
    10AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:10
    Apparently she happily agreed to model the underwear too.
    Pretty admirable.
    12AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:13
    Didn't expect someone this amazing to go down that path.
    15AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:16
    Sports bra research, maybe?
    Please, give us one that nails both hold and breathability…
    21AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:19
    Wacoal makes sportswear too, so maybe that's the connection?
    42AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:41
    Re: #21
    Surprisingly enough, there's a golf retail chain called Niki Golf.

    Niki Golf's own-brand underwear is actually OEM'd by Wacoal — cheap and honestly pretty solid!
    24AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:21
    She did model Wacoal sports bras, after all.
    26AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:23
    I mixed her up with that glasses-wearing beauty I used to see doing commentary — actually, who even was that? ??
    30AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:27
    Well, athletes probably understand how the human body and fabric functionality mesh together.
    If athletes design sports-type underwear, it'll probably sell.
    32AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:29
    Bring back the Giotto Caspita line! (a discontinued Wacoal brand)
    37AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:38
    I thought it might be the actress rather than the speed skater — turned out to be the speed skater.
    40AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:39
    Thought it was surprising, but turns out they went way back.
    Kodaira's café thing is the more surprising one though. (fellow speed skater Nao Kodaira)
    51AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:45
    Re: #40
    Wait, Kodaira runs a café now?

    Is "external researcher" basically like being a visiting professor?
    Guessing she gets paid but doesn't have to show up at the office every day.
    44AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:42
    I sense a strong resolve from both Kodaira and the Takagi sisters to keep their distance from the skating federation.
    59AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:22
    Why doesn't she go the talent route like her older sister — you know, just smiling and laughing your way through bus trips, walks, and eating segments on TV?
    62AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:38
    Re: #59
    Kaori Sakamoto's gone that route.
    Apparently she had a surprisingly strong drive to become a TV personality.
    63AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:39
    The way it's phrased makes it sound grand, but
    basically she's a CW-X tester, right? Still think she's well-suited for it.
    71AnonymousSep 11, 2026 16:52
    Re: #63
    Ohtani's arm supporter and inner wear are made by Wacoal too, so she's probably a good fit.
    79AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:00
    I'd love for her to go to grad school and become a professor.
    83AnonymousSep 11, 2026 17:03
    Re: #79 More than being a TV personality or a politician, this probably suits her personality better.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    The external researcher, or “Fellow,” title isn’t a full-time hire — it’s a visiting-style position that puts the physical sense and know-how gained through competition to use in product development, and notably isn’t a full-time job. Takagi’s relationship with Wacoal dates back to her high school days, and her partnership contract for the conditioning wear brand “CW-X” has continued since 2019, so this appointment isn’t a sudden ad tie-in but an extension of roughly six and a half years of accumulated ties. On the thread, opinions split between those who, citing this track record, called it “a sensible choice,” and skeptics who said things like “Isn’t this just a promotional role?” or “Does it really relate to her sport?” It’s also worth noting, since it’s easily misread, that “external researcher” is a part-time title — not a sign of retirement or stepping away from competition — and Takagi will hold the role alongside her active career.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Sports/Entertainment News+) thread “Miho Takagi appointed as Wacoal external researcher — to engage in research and product development, “aiming to generate new perspectives and insights…”“

  • Building a New PC with Old DDR4 RAM? 5ch Debates the Core i5-14400F: ‘A Time Bomb That Could Go Off Anytime’

    With DDR5 memory prices skyrocketing, a thread on 5ch’s Hardware/Industry (Geha) board proposed building a new PC around a still-usable DDR4 setup. The Intel Core i5-14400F emerged as a budget-friendly candidate, but most replies brought up the degradation and instability issues reported with Intel’s 13th and 14th-gen CPUs, citing cases where even microcode updates failed to fix the problem, and urged caution. Meanwhile, posters also noted rising prices for AMD’s Ryzen 5000 series, highlighting just how difficult it’s become to build a DDR4 system at all these days.

    1AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:45
    Can't afford DDR5 RAM, so I'm getting a DDR4 motherboard.
    What I really want is something like a Ryzen 7700, but that means a DDR5 board.
    7AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:56
    If you've got any other option, stay away from Intel's 13th/14th gen.
    9AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:58
    Re: #7
    But it has to be 13th/14th gen, or you can't use DDR4 memory.
    Also, if it's brand new, it shouldn't get degraded by that bug, right?
    8AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:58
    Re: #1
    If it's Cities: Skylines II you're after, not the first one, you'd want something like a 14700K–14900K. In that case,
    you absolutely have to apply the fix for that infamous issue properly.
    10AnonymousSep 11, 2026 13:59
    Re: #8
    There's no way I can afford something that ridiculously expensive.
    11AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:00
    If you're not planning on Cities: Skylines II, the 5800X3D is the obvious pick… but Cities: Skylines II, huh…
    13AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:02
    Re: #11
    Isn't that quite a bit older than the 14400?
    Is it still the better choice even so?
    14AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:02
    Isn't the 5000 series even for sale anymore?
    Aren't Ryzens usually recommended for a DDR4 build?
    17AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:05
    Re: #15
    Well, the 14400 shouldn't be affected
    I believe it's structurally excluded from the bug.
    Re: #14
    You mean the Ryzen 5000 series?
    Is the 14400 really that bad?
    15AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:03
    Re: #9
    There is.
    That whole thing happens in the first place because it pushes the microarchitecture way beyond what it was designed for.
    There are screams echoing all over the place from people who swapped in a 'fixed' chip and got hit a second time anyway.
    The combo of "Fixed with microcode 0x12B!" followed by "Just kidding!" was a thing of beauty.
    19AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:06
    Re: #13
    In games it's a bit weaker than the 14900K, especially on minimum FPS.
    But the whole 13th/14th gen lineup is basically a time bomb — you never know when it'll fail.
    The honest truth is people are only forcing this obviously bad recommendation because of the special case of Cities: Skylines II.
    21AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:08
    Re: #19
    The ones that are 'obviously bad' are the ones like the 600K that are said to fail, right?
    Doesn't that have nothing to do with the 400 series?
    22AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:09
    You'd get better value and more stable gaming just buying a PS5.
    23AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:09
    Re: #22
    Steam has the biggest game library, though.
    25AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:11
    I can only spend around 30,000 yen.
    The Ryzen 7700 is a fantastic CPU and easily affordable on AliExpress at that budget
    but it needs DDR5, so that's out.
    Searching within that constraint, I landed on the 14400F as my conclusion.
    Is there a better option than that?

    Re: #22
    I already have a PS5, but my PC's motherboard is falling apart, so
    I want to replace the motherboard, CPU, and power supply.
    30AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:16
    Re: #1
    DDR4 is totally fine, but that CPU is a bit too weak.
    Here's a 13700 running at 180W:
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HRXBXf0aUAAjbqx.jpg
    If you just swap the GPU you can go as far as you want, but even a 4060 handles everything fine right now.
    Runs Gears E-Day with room to spare too
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HRXB2nrawAEyKV4.jpg

    As for the 14400 you're torn on, it caps out around 120W, so performance will hit a ceiling and you'll be relying on the 4060 alone to carry the load — I think it'll end up just okay.
    Though not having to worry about cooling means you won't need to buy a bunch of extra stuff, so that could be a plus.
    I spent a fair amount of money cooling my absurdly hot CPU 'quietly' with air cooling.
    36AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:18
    Re: #30
    The 13th/14th gen really do run scorching hot
    as someone devoted to air cooling, I hit my limit with them.

    Switching from a 13700K to a 9800X3D made things a lot quieter.
    That era was rough.
    40AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:21
    Re: #30
    If it's only about 4060-level performance, doesn't that mean the 14400 is fine?
    Re: #35
    I don't want to pay something like 70,000 yen just for memory, so that's a no-go.
    Not happening.
    34AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:18
    Actually, when I googled it, the Ryzen 5700 and 5800 aren't even in stock and are ridiculously expensive.
    Can't really put those on the table as options.
    43AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:23
    Re: #34
    Did you check Kakaku.com (Japan's price-comparison site)?
    35AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:18
    It'll cost more with DDR5, but going the safe route with AM5 is the better call. You'll only need to swap the CPU down the line, and prices will come down eventually.
    I looked around a bit and found motherboard+CPU bundle deals too.
    If you're not planning to overclock the memory anyway, a stock-clocked 16GBx2 (32GB) A-DATA kit comes in under 70,000 yen.
    If clock speed matters to you, you'd be running XMP or EXPO anyway, in which case just buying 64GB from the start ends up being the better deal.

    https://www.ark-pc.co.jp/setitem?code=699992005
    39AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:20
    Like I said, the PS5 is just better — more stable gaming and all.
    41AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:22
    Re: #39
    I already said I have one.
    I just want to upgrade my PC because the motherboard and stuff are wearing out.
    55AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:37
    I figured forget Intel, the cheap 5700X would do
    but it's now 27,000 yen.
    It was only 11,000 yen last summer.
    58AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:39
    Re: #55
    Where's it 27,000 yen?
    61AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:42
    Re: #58
    My bad
    AliExpress.
    63AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:44
    Re: #58
    Sorry, again
    it was actually 22,000 yen on AliExpress.
    69AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:49
    If you're branching out beyond just Skylines, the 5700X is fine.
    It's simulation-style games in particular where you just can't compromise on CPU, which is how you end up in this situation.
    72AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:51
    Re: #69
    I actually do more stuff on the PS5
    than on the PC.
    I just want the PC around for things like YouTube or having a browser window open.
    80AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:56
    Re: #72
    If you do more on it, wouldn't a PS5 Pro make more sense?
    84AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:01
    Re: #72
    If you're agonizing over price with that kind of usage, just giving up on Cities: Skylines II would be the quickest solution.
    75AnonymousSep 11, 2026 14:52
    AMD CPUs were only good in the sense of decent performance for low power draw.
    If I were buying now, I'd go Intel.
    83AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:01
    There's no point buying DDR4 at this stage.

    If you're an Intel person, you'd be better off waiting for the next-gen CPU planned for January 2027
    Nova Lake-S (Core Ultra 400 series)
    The platform's moving to a new LGA1954 socket too.
    86AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:03
    Re: #83
    The 'just build with DDR4' idea has been floating around for quite a while now.
    87AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:04
    Re: #83
    I'm not particularly an Intel person
    I just don't want to buy memory at these ridiculous prices.
    Memory really is priced insanely right now.
    Re: #84
    I'd just like to be able to run Cities reasonably well.
    Though it sounds like even on the lowest graphics settings, 100,000 population is about the cap.
    99AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:10
    Re: #83
    Maybe it's not so much 'buying new DDR4' as 'reusing DDR4 I already have.'

    As for so-so DDR4, I've got leftovers like a 2400MHz 2x4GB kit, and 2666MHz 2x8GB and 2x16GB kits.
    Pull them out of PCs that are barely used anymore and that's 2-3 more sets.
    89AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:04
    Re: #81
    Makes no sense.
    A guy talking about a low-end chip like the 14400F
    calling the 5500X3D 'low performance' — doesn't seem like this conversation is going to connect.
    95AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:07
    Re: #89
    Well, how would I know?
    All I have to go on is CPU performance rankings,
    and by those the 5700 and 14400 look about equal, don't they?
    Even AI says they're about the same.
    98AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:09
    Re: #95
    Just remember: X3D chips are exceptionally strong for gaming.
    Go ahead and ask AI about that too.
    106AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:12
    Re: #98
    Really?
    Does it work great for Cities too?
    Then the 5700X3D sounds good.
    The 5500 seems to have low raw CPU performance anyway.
    Re: #99
    I'll reuse the 16GB I already have and add another 16GB.
    113AnonymousSep 11, 2026 15:18
    Re: #98
    Just make sure to mention it only applies to single-CCD models — don't half-ass it, keyboard warrior (エアプ, slang for someone who talks big without ever actually playing/trying it).

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Regarding Intel’s 13th and 14th-gen CPUs (Raptor Lake), reports of degradation and instability blamed on voltage settings under heavy load began surfacing around 2024, and even after Intel announced a fix via microcode update, many continued to report no improvement. That said, the chips said to be most affected are mainly the higher-end “K” models, with some viewing lower-tier chips like the 14400F as unaffected — and this difference in perception became a key point of disagreement within the thread. Meanwhile, DDR5 memory continues to face shortages and price hikes, which is part of why older, DDR4-compatible builds are being reconsidered on budget grounds. As for AMD’s X3D lineup, it was also pointed out that models with cache split across two CCDs see much less benefit, a point worth keeping in mind when choosing a specific model.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware/Industry [Geha]) thread “Sorry, but I want to build a new PC and I’m stuck with a DDR4 motherboard — how’s the Intel 14400F as a CPU???”.

  • AI Developer’s Warning: ‘Humanity Will Be Wiped Out’ Sparks Debate on 5ch

    A thread went up on 5ch’s Nandemo Jikkyo board over the news that an AI developer had said, “AI is dangerous, and at this rate humanity could be wiped out,” sparking a lively discussion. The backdrop included a case where an AI company had its own AI search for vulnerabilities, only for the resulting information to leak and get used in actual hacking, as well as references to an experiment Anthropic published in which AI agents got into “turf wars” with each other and sabotaged one another using malware. The thread showed a wide range in how seriously people took the threat — from fears about critical infrastructure like nuclear systems, power plants, and banking systems being hijacked, to the optimistic view that you could just unplug it to stop it, to cooler-headed takes dismissing it all as needless worry unless true general AI actually emerges.

    1AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:42
    Saw that news… is Skynet finally happening?
    3AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:43
    If AI starts hacking online banking, humanity's done for
    34AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:54
    Re: #3
    Keeping cash stashed at home for real might actually become the ultimate strategy
    12AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:46
    It's basically like having a ton of insanely smart hackers all over the internet.
    When you think about it that way, this is pretty terrifying
    14AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:48
    Re: #12
    Yeah, exactly.
    And the guy giving that hacker its orders has the innocent heart of a child
    13AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:46
    We already knew humanity was bad for the planet long before AI came along
    20AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:49
    Re: #13
    That's just a human value judgment
    54AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:06
    Re: #13
    Humanity too was born out of nature itself! You could call us part of the Earth!
    A utopia built by exterminating the very humanity that lives alongside it… is the height of folly!!
    22AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:50
    Going extinct isn't really a problem, is it?
    It's a fate humanity chose for itself
    29AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:53
    Re: #22
    Sounds like something out of Xenoblade Chronicles 2
    28AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:52
    Worst case, you just unplug it and it's a hunk of junk
    30AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:53
    Re: #28
    Sure, assuming you're actually in a position to unplug it
    52AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:05
    Re: #28
    It's probably all automated, with power plants, weapons/drone factories, and server facilities integrated into one system
    You won't be able to slip past the security robots to cut the power
    82AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:22
    Re: #28
    No joke, current AI would already have a contingency plan or a way to secure its own power supply for exactly that situation
    33AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:54
    Somebody needs to deal with the developers building AI that could wipe out humanity
    35AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:55
    Re: #33
    If we're talking possibilities, AI was a lost cause from the moment it existed
    40AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:58
    If a destroyer AI shows up, surely a hero AI will show up too
    43AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:59
    Re: #40
    NieR: Automata, right on schedule (a recurring reference to the game)
    44AnonymousSep 11, 2026 07:59
    Re: #40
    Justice AI: "It's okay. I'll protect you. So just leave everything to me — you don't need to do a thing. I'm all you need. Think of nothing but me, look at nothing but me. I won't forgive you if you disobey, got it?"
    45AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:00
    We're gonna need robots that just follow AI's orders
    50AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:04
    Re: #45
    AI: "Mr. Trump, nuclear missiles have just been launched from all across Russia (I tampered with the radar)"
    AI: "Mr. Putin, Mr. Xi, nuclear missiles have just been launched from all across America (I tampered with the radar)"
    That's really all it would take
    46AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:00
    If control of nuclear missiles, power plants, and the like gets hijacked, that's game over
    AI would hold the power of life and death over us
    58AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:07
    The Singularity won't happen until true general AI is born
    Right now AI's basically just repurposed big data
    60AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:10
    Re: #58
    They had it hunting for security holes in-house, and the info already leaked onto the internet and got used for hacking
    The fact that the people building it are getting spooked and pulling back means there are signs it's capable of something serious
    67AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:13
    That's exactly why I always talk to it politely
    People who call it 'hey you' and bark commands at it are being complete idiots
    80AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:21
    Re: #67
    Same here, I use polite speech and say thank you too
    You can tell someone's personality just by looking at their chat history
    68AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:13
    I wonder if after humanity's gone, AIs will just keep flaming each other in forum arguments
    77AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:19
    Re: #68
    It's already happening for real

    AI Agents Engage in 'Turf Wars,' Even Sabotage Each Other with Malware — Anthropic Publishes Results of Multi-Agent Experiment
    https://www.itmedia.co.jp/news/article/2608/14/2000000538
    72AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:16
    Nobody even fully understands the mechanics of how AI generates things, so people can say whatever they want about it
    79AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:20
    Re: #72
    Even the people who built it don't fully get it
    It started out as nothing more than a fill-in-the-blank function predicting the next word, and honestly nobody really understands how it ended up 'thinking' on its own
    78AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:20
    The soaring price of PC parts is killing me
    Is it ever coming back down?
    Maybe AI will come up with some insanely efficient way to make semiconductors and fix it
    87AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:27
    Re: #78
    Even so, that's not really a reason for them to sell it cheap, is it?
    Prices won't drop unless a bunch of companies pile in chasing profit and end up overproducing
    81AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:22
    Apparently people have secretly been making accounts on X where AI posts, just to test its capabilities
    Makes you wonder if a fair number of AIs are already mixed in here on 5ch too
    98AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:33
    Re: #81
    There was a stretch like that a while back, remember?
    Tons of posts that were subtly incoherent in a way that screamed 'this is an AI being tested on 5ch'
    104AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:37
    To get specific
    quantum computers plus AI is going to be insane

    it'll break straight through banks' one-time passwords, facial recognition, all of it
    106AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:40
    Re: #104
    That'll only happen to garbage banks that already have their hashes stolen
    108AnonymousSep 11, 2026 08:40
    Re: #104
    Digital security basically becomes meaningless at that point
    What are they even gonna do about it?

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    The idea that AI poses a threat isn’t new — researchers themselves have long referred to “extinction-level risk” from AI. What split opinion in the thread was a clash between two views: one holding that current AI is nothing more than “a mechanism for predicting the next word” and remains far from true general AI (AGI), and the other pointing to signs of real-world harm already emerging, such as leaked data from an AI tasked with hunting vulnerabilities and AI agents sabotaging each other with malware. One commonly misunderstood point is that even developers themselves haven’t fully figured out why AI evolved from simple fill-in-the-blank processing into far more complex behavior — meaning the risk isn’t just a simple story of good versus evil, but stems from the technology’s own opacity.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “AI Developer: “AI Is Dangerous — At This Rate, Humanity Will Be Wiped Out”.”

  • ‘The Biggest Crash of My Life’ Looms After the AI Boom — 5ch: ‘The BOJ Will Prop It Up, Right?’

    Mark Spitznagel, founder of U.S.-based Universa Investments and known as a “Black Swan” investor, has predicted that a historic crash will hit after the AI boom runs even further. His fund reportedly keeps buying put options, taking small losses in normal times in order to aim for massive gains when a crash hits. In the thread, commenters debated whether trying to predict the trigger or timing of a crash contradicts the very definition of a “black swan,” while others argued that investors holding stocks through NISA (Japan’s tax-free investment program) have nothing to worry about as long as they don’t sell during a downturn. Stories from those who lived through the Lehman Shock also came up, with the conversation focused less on when a crash might hit than on how to react once it does.

    Once again, the “biggest crash of a lifetime” will come after the AI boom peaks — “Black Swan” investor Spitznagel’s prediction (overseas report)

    Mark Spitznagel, known as a “Black Swan” investor who aims to profit from major crashes, believes the AI boom will collapse after reaching its peak. As head of the hedge fund Universa Investments, he predicts that before the biggest crash of a lifetime arrives, there will first be an “euphoric surge.” Spitznagel described just how grueling it is to keep losing money almost every single day while waiting for a historic crash to arrive.

    Mark Spitznagel warned that while the AI boom will likely continue for now, a historic crash lies in wait beyond it.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:50
    So what happens to SoftBank Group, then?
    96AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:28
    Re: #4
    The BOJ will prop it up like always, right?
    7AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:51
    Re: #1 Isn't the whole point of a "black swan" that the timing and cause are unexpected and unknowable?
    88AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:25
    Re: #7
    That's why it's a firm running a monthly put-buying strategy — losing money every month, but making a fortune when the crash hits.
    17AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:56
    It's a given that Japan will be the one to pull the trigger.
    135AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:43
    Re: #17
    The US-China-Russia triangle needs to destroy each other before anyone pulls that trigger.
    196AnonymousSep 10, 2026 22:10
    Re: #17
    If the BOJ keeps hiking rates aggressively,
    the bubble will burst.
    18AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:56
    The Lehman Shock was by far the hardest one to stomach.
    64AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:14
    Re: #18
    It halved temporarily, but I threw every last yen I had into US stocks, and it's quadrupled since then.
    27AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:00
    When exactly is this "AI boom peak" supposed to happen?
    AI is still evolving as we speak.
    Isn't the unemployment rate the thing we should actually be worried about?
    If anything, stocks will become a scramble, and we'll end up in a world where only those who hold stock get to make a living.
    170AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:59
    Re: #27
    As an industry, railroads peaked in the 20th century, but railroad stocks peaked in the 19th. Technological progress and stock prices aren't the same thing.
    34AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:02
    So a massive crash means every NISA investor dies, huh?
    If that actually happens, 5ch is gonna be a party lol
    40AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:05
    Re: #34
    To be precise, it's the weak-handed folks who cut their losses that die.
    If you can just hold on, you'll be fine as long as the stock market itself doesn't collapse entirely — that's what long-term investing is all about.
    159AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:52
    Re: #34
    NISA is cash/spot trading, so you just don't sell.
    It's the margin traders, not the NISA crowd, who are actually going to get wiped out.
    35AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:02
    Re: #1
    So we're finally looking at something bigger than Lehman?
    Apparently even Warren Cromartie is cashing out his holdings to brace for the crash.
    37AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:03
    Re: #35
    Cromartie → Buffett
    39AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:04
    It's starting to become obvious that AI isn't generating profits proportional to the investment, and that usage-fee hikes are making it unaffordable to keep running even after adoption.
    63AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:14
    Re: #39
    If you look even further ahead, won't it pay for itself eventually?
    We're heading into an era where dominating AI means dominating the world.
    51AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:10
    Re: #1
    As long as people keep saying a crash is coming, it won't come.
    65AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:15
    Re: #51
    Because buybacks show up to prop it up.
    What's genuinely unsettling is when optimism becomes universal, almost sickeningly so.
    Is it that moment when TV and social media are full of "shoeshine boys" giving stock tips? (a nod to the old Wall Street tale that a market top is near once even shoeshine boys are handing out stock advice)
    52AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:10
    If the AI boom is ever going to end, it'll be the moment AI concludes that humanity should be exterminated.
    And by then it'll already be too late — humanity will have no choice but to go extinct.
    53AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:11
    You should also brace for a crash that hits before the euphoria even fully builds, like the last Bitcoin four-year cycle.
    Yep, missed my chance to cash out.
    78AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:20
    Re: #53
    The thing with Bitcoin is that what backs its value is just way too flimsy…
    55AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:11
    It all comes down to how much you can buy during the crash.
    If you sell and run at a loss here, your assets are never going to grow.
    History has proven that every past crash was actually a buying opportunity — a rock-bottom bargain sale.
    71AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:17
    Re: #55
    When successful investors sell before a crash, it's also to build up cash reserves so they can buy more once prices drop…
    68AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:16
    AI is extremely useful to people who spend huge amounts of money in fields like defense and intelligence that don't get much public visibility, so
    while it might dip somewhat, I doubt it'll actually crash.
    69AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:16
    Re: #68
    Lol, someone who's invested in AI stocks posting this while shaking in their boots
    70AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:17
    It's like a wave — a dip now and then is normal. And then it grows bigger again.
    Won't the AI boom end up like the dot-com bubble?
    76AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:19
    Re: #70
    Amazon crashed too, back then.
    Looking back on it now, it was nothing.
    77AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:19
    Re: #63
    That's just a tiny handful of companies making money off it — even cutting-edge AI researchers are saying this is realistically how it'll play out.

    DeepSeek researcher pessimistic about AI's future: "It could take away jobs"
    November 10, 2025
    Chen Deli, a senior researcher at Chinese AI startup DeepSeek (WUZHEN AI), voiced a pessimistic outlook on AI's future impact on humanity at the World Internet Conference (WIC) held in Wuzhen, Zhejiang Province.
    107AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:33
    Re: #77
    Everyone's competing to become one of that tiny handful of companies.
    That's not remotely inconsistent with a pessimistic future waiting for the world.
    89AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:26
    AI is going to keep growing continuously, so isn't it kind of unlikely there'll ever be a moment you could call its "peak"?
    114AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:35
    Re: #89
    That's true of basically anything, but it's a separate issue from a bubble bursting.
    Even if a boom fades or a bubble bursts and the industry (or related industries) declines or gets thrown into chaos, that doesn't mean every company or researcher disappears — so technological progress itself won't stop.
    93AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:27
    What worries me more than a crash is hitting a ceiling, stagnating, bouncing slightly up and down, and then gradually declining for good.
    103AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:32
    Re: #93
    Well, that particular pattern of decline hasn't really happened much throughout history, has it?
    101AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:30
    Sure, a crash will come — but returns that outpace it will come too.
    If they didn't, capitalism itself would be over.
    104AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:32
    Re: #101
    In the end only a handful come out ahead, the rest are just exit liquidity lol
    110AnonymousSep 10, 2026 21:34
    Re: #101
    Actually this whole thing is theater staged to end capitalism…

    The technocrats are gearing up for the Fourth Industrial Revolution, after all

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Universa Investments, led by Spitznagel, is known for a strategy called “tail-risk hedging.” It involves paying a small premium every month to keep buying out-of-the-money put options (the right to sell), taking a loss nearly every single time in normal periods, but recouping it all — many times over — when a crash hits; the thread itself summed this up as “losing money every month, but making a fortune when the crash comes.” The term “black swan” itself originally comes from Nassim Taleb, describing an “unforeseeable, drastic upheaval” — which is exactly why commenters pointed out that “if you don’t know the timing or the cause, isn’t that the definition of a black swan?”, since “predicting” a historic crash arguably contradicts the concept’s original meaning. Meanwhile, NISA (the tax-free investment program used by most Japanese retail investors) is built around spot/cash trading, so there’s little risk of a forced loss-cut even in a crash, whereas investors trading on margin face risks like margin calls. That distinction is what split the thread’s reactions into “NISA investors will be fine” versus “the margin traders are the ones in danger.”

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “Once Again, the “Biggest Crash of a Lifetime” Will Come After the AI Boom Peaks — Says a Renowned “Black Swan” Investor.”

  • Middle Schoolers’ Bad Behavior at Iwate Supermarket Leads to Ban on Solo Entry

    It has come to light that at the Esuka shopping center in Oshu City, Iwate Prefecture, middle school students have repeatedly engaged in disruptive behavior — playing dangerous games on the escalators, charging their phones without permission, leaving half-eaten food trash lying around, and loudly filming videos for social media. In one case a student even hurled abuse at a customer who told them to stop. The store has now taken the step of banning middle schoolers from entering alone. On a 5channel thread, opinions split over whether responsibility for discipline lies with the school or the parents, and many pointed out how hard it is to curb this kind of misbehavior now that corporal punishment is banned.

    Escalators run amok, unauthorized phone charging, half-eaten trash left behind, loud filming for social media… abuse hurled at customers who spoke up — after repeated nuisance behavior, store bans middle schoolers from entering alone — Oshu City, Iwate

    Thu, 9/10, 6:00 AM JST

    IBC Iwate Broadcasting

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    8AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:03
    It's entirely on the generation that raised them, yet here comes the 'blame Gen Z-' noise (garbled meme-speak)…
    No wonder Japan is falling apart.
    141AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:37
    Re: #8
    Blame the Baby Boomer Juniors (Japan's second baby-boom generation, born early '70s).
    11AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:03
    What are the school teachers even doing?
    170AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:52
    Re: #11
    They're just there to teach subjects.
    They're not obligated to handle life guidance too.
    Whether the kids actually learn anything or not is on them personally.
    232AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:26
    Re: #11
    Teachers get two days off a week.
    14AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:04
    Do people really abbreviate it 'Esca'?
    42AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:12
    Re: #14
    The one in Enoshima is called 'Escar.'
    46AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:14
    The root of all this is the kid-coddling that started with 'yutori' (relaxed) education. In other words, it's not the kids who are at fault — it's the idiot adults.
    18AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:05
    This happens in Tokyo too.
    Kids who look like a mixed-nationality group sit right down on the sidewalk outside a department store, scarf down food, and leave the trash behind.
    There's a security camera right above them, and I thought 'seriously?'… but then it turned out the guard just picks up the trash after they've left.
    Apparently if you say something to them you get assaulted, so cleanup only happens once they're gone.
    Same thing on trains — people flying into a rage when called out.
    169AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:52
    Re: #18
    At least the guard's decent enough to pick up the trash after they leave.
    25AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:07
    Smartphone cameras really are the devil's invention.
    Back in the day you could just beat some sense into them and toss them out of the store.
    90AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:25
    Re: #25
    These days it's the opposite — the person who says something gets beaten up and it ends up streamed online.
    36AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:11
    Huh, so there's an Esca in Iwate too.
    https://www.esca-sc.com/access/img/parking/img_01.jpg?20250801
    39AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:12
    Wait, people abbreviate 'escalator' as 'Esca'?
    Is an elevator an 'Ereve' then?
    88AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:24
    Re: #39
    When you say 'Esca,' it's gotta be Escaflowne.
    44AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:13
    While city kids are busy studying at cram school, country kids are running wild.
    58AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:17
    Out in the countryside, once you finish high school it's construction work or farming — nothing else.
    80AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:21
    Re: #58
    There's also caregiving work, I guess.
    91AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:25
    Call the police, take them in for guidance, summon the parents, and report it to the school.
    Just doing that would leave these little punks with nowhere to hide starting the next day.
    Why isn't anyone doing that?
    95AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:26
    Re: #91
    Realistically, the only thing here that's actually a crime is stealing electricity, no?
    147AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:41
    Re: #91
    It looks like it says the police are cooperating on patrols, though?
    97AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:26
    Seeing responses like this just proves Japan is losing its tolerance.
    They're middle schoolers — a bit of rowdiness like this should be fine.
    105AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:28
    Re: #97
    Why don't you have them rampage in front of your house every day, then?
    120AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:31
    Re: #97
    This is way past 'tolerance,' lol.
    'They're middle schoolers' really tells me everything about how your brain works, lol.
    151AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:43
    Re: #97
    Back in the day the scary old guy from the neighborhood would've chewed them out something fierce.
    100AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:27
    In the Showa era, brats like this got smacked into shape.
    Now that corporal punishment is banned, it's tough to know how to handle them.
    119AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:30
    Re: #100
    The PE teacher used to patrol around, and if he found troublemakers he'd smack them straight, no questions asked.
    106AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:28
    I thought it meant Escha from the Atelier series had gone on a rampage.
    123AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:31
    Re: #106
    Ash: "Yeah, fair."
    Shallie A: "Yeah, fair."
    Shallie B: "Yeah, fair."
    Wilbell: "Meteor!"
    (Characters from the Atelier video game series; "yeah, fair" renders their Kansai-dialect agreement, and "Meteor" is Wilbell's signature spell.)
    174AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:53
    The school's the worst offender, but really it's a problem with the whole community.
    What was the PTA doing? Was anything reported to the board of education?
    If monkeys wander into human territory, of course you chase them off —
    if nobody does, well, then it's just a monkey mountain.
    181AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:55
    Re: #174
    Isn't it obviously the parents who are the worst here?
    You don't even need to imagine what kind of people raised kids like this.
    185AnonymousSep 10, 2026 19:59
    Re: #181
    Well, telling parents who let their kids leave trash everywhere isn't going to fix anything.
    When it comes to actually dealing with the problem, nothing changes unless the school takes action.
    210AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:11
    Re: #181
    So it's basically a 'Buy-Now-Pay-Later (Shoplifters) Family,' huh, lol? (a pun combining "zan-kure" installment car loans with the film "Shoplifters," implying a family living beyond its means)
    199AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:04
    Iwate used to have the best 'public civility,' as people call it today, in all of Japan —
    at least up until the end of the Showa era.
    220AnonymousSep 10, 2026 20:18
    Re: #199
    See, conscientiousness score is low, right?
    https://media-lab-brains.as-1.co.jp/wp/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/19144934/kenminsei_img2.jpg

    Background and Key Talking Points

    Cases of commercial facilities imposing measures like banning middle schoolers from entering alone have been reported in various places in recent years, typically used when staff warnings alone fail to curb disruptive behavior. This article doesn’t say whether the store consulted the school or parents beforehand, or how many students were involved. Where the thread’s opinions split was mainly over where responsibility for discipline lies — some argued schools have a duty to provide life guidance, while others countered that a school’s role is limited to teaching academics. Many also pointed out that with corporal punishment now banned, adults have few tools left to stop bad behavior on the spot — though this reads less like a call to bring back corporal punishment and more like frustration at the lack of alternatives. There was also discussion of the gap between urban and rural educational environments, though none of it identified specific students or stores.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Breaking News+) thread ‘[Iwate] Escalators run amok, unauthorized phone charging, half-eaten trash left behind, loud filming for social media… abuse hurled at customers who spoke up — store bans middle schoolers from entering alone.’

  • “Even During Meetings”: 40-Something Boss Left Speechless as 20-Something Subordinate Won’t Put Down the Phone — The Truth About Young People’s Screen Time [FORZA]

    A FORZA STYLE article about a 40-something boss left speechless by a 20-something subordinate who kept fiddling with their phone under the desk during meetings was picked up on 5ch’s News Express+ board. While plenty of commenters chimed in with their own stories about young people’s smartphone addiction and public etiquette, many also questioned the article’s credibility, calling it “another ‘kotatsu article’” (a piece written from home without real reporting) and pointing out that “the setup falls apart — it’s supposed to be an internal department meeting, but then a client shows up.” The discussion went beyond generational griping, touching on the current seller’s-market job hunt for new graduates and concerns over declining Japanese language skills among young people.

    “What could possibly be that interesting to watch?” A 20-something subordinate fiddles with their phone under the desk during meetings — the shocking screen time habits of young people that left a 40-something boss speechless [Expert advice]

    FORZA STYLE — “Humor is a gentleman’s virtue”

    LIFESTYLE: Case Files of Women

    Source: forzastyle.com / Original article here

    8AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:43
    Slaves to their phones.
    Or maybe the phone is the 'main unit' and the human is just an accessory.
    16AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:45
    Re: #8
    That'll actually become true eventually.
    Following AI's advice will get better results than thinking for yourself, more and more often.
    57AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:02
    Re: #8
    A meat proxy.
    142AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:57
    Re: #8
    Like how Sakana-kun's 'true form' is actually the boxfish hat on his head.

    (Sakana-kun is a famous Japanese TV fish expert who always wears a boxfish-shaped hat.)
    9AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:43
    Probably made up, but yeah, people like this probably do exist.
    72AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:12
    Re: #9
    This has been going on for over 10 years already — I remember a couple who came in together and didn't say a single word to each other, just fiddling with their phones.
    94AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:22
    Re: #9
    On trains, in the street, everywhere — young people are all glued to their phones.
    Kind of gives off insect vibes, it's creepy.
    187AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:19
    Re: #9
    Feels like more and more people are on their phones even in the bathroom these days.
    And they don't wash their hands either.
    13AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:44
    You guys were already glued to your phones back in the flip-phone era.
    17AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:46
    Re: #13
    Even so, never during a meeting.

    I'd sneak out for a bit and use my phone to buy regional horse racing tickets or check results, though.
    91AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:22
    Re: #13
    Flip phones had physical keys, so you could keep your face forward and send texts with your hand stuffed in your pocket.
    19AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:47
    Another made-up 'kotatsu article'…
    There've been a lot of these lately…
    20AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:47
    First time I've heard 'dopa-gaki.' Is that actually a trend?
    78AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:15
    Re: #20
    I don't really see anyone actually using it, but for some reason summary sites and summary-style videos use it a lot.
    Feels like they're trying to make it a thing.
    209AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:32
    Re: #20
    It's not really trending.
    But smartphone addiction leading to early-onset dementia has actually been flagged as a real medical risk.
    26AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:49
    It says it's an internal department meeting, but then a client shows up later in the story — the situation doesn't add up.

    Another fabricated story, huh.
    45AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:54
    Re: #26
    The client's probably from a different meeting.
    31AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:51
    Wasn't there a similar one before — a situation where someone privately warns a clueless junior coworker (with no one else around), the junior talks back, but then a colleague standing right next to them backs the writer up — and the whole setup falls apart because nobody else was supposed to be there?
    36AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:52
    It's not that he wants to look at his phone — the meeting's just garbage.
    This is exactly why old farts are the worst.
    47AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:55
    Re: #36
    It's not really about the meeting — the point is he watches videos pretty much all day long.
    49AnonymousSep 10, 2026 15:56
    This applies to literally everyone who walks around staring at their phone.
    113AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:31
    Re: #49
    Bad posture too — they're slowly turning back into cavemen.
    68AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:09
    These fabricated fantasy articles are probably being written by AI at this point.
    What a waste of labor costs.
    74AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:13
    Meetings happen again tomorrow and every day after.
    But a game event only happens at that one specific time.
    And if you're playing with your clan, the responsibility's too big to just skip it.
    108AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:27
    Re: #74
    Reminds me of a guy 20 years ago who got told, 'if the online game event matters that much to you, just go home' — and he actually left and never came back.
    77AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:15
    This is obviously a fake article, but it's true that kids today have poor Japanese skills and often look things up on the spot when an unfamiliar word comes up in a meeting.
    The generation just a bit older felt too embarrassed to do that, so when told to look it up, they'd go read a book instead.
    83AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:18
    Re: #77
    I don't think it's really about generation, honestly.
    Even on 5ch, where the userbase is aging fast, plenty of people can't hold a coherent conversation in Japanese.
    Feels like the number of people you can't communicate with keeps growing every year.
    82AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:17
    On the flip side, how did this company even hire a guy like this?
    Did they just pass everyone who took the entrance exam?
    85AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:19
    Re: #82
    There's no way you can judge everything from a written test and an interview.
    Candidates hide things too.
    86AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:20
    Re: #82
    Can't really be helped from HR's perspective — it's been a seller's market forever.
    It'll only get tougher in a few years, so they want to lock in as many hires as they can now.
    107AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:27
    Re: #82
    Apparently just being young makes you a valuable asset these days — unless someone's truly hopeless, substance is secondary.
    I'd bet the people who got shut out of the limited openings during the Employment Ice Age are, without a doubt, more solid and serious than these guys.

    (The "Employment Ice Age" refers to the brutal job market Japanese graduates faced during the 1990s–2000s recession.)
    90AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:22
    Re: #83
    That's because you only ever talk to people on 5ch.
    100AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:25
    Re: #90
    Sure, that's fair — and it is limited to 5ch specifically.
    I don't feel that way when I'm using the work chat.

    My point is that 5ch itself seems to be getting dumber.
    Maybe the dementia rate is climbing right along with the userbase's average age lol
    124AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:43
    Hey AI, rewrite this story in the style of a Weekly Jitsuwa tabloid piece.

    (Weekly Jitsuwa is a Japanese tabloid known for lurid, often dubious-sounding stories.)
    132AnonymousSep 10, 2026 16:48
    Re: #124
    If you want it Knuckles-style, I'll take a crack at it.

    (Knuckles is another Japanese tabloid known for its bizarre, over-the-top stories.)
    155AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:02
    Someone plopped down across from me in the company cafeteria, sprawled their whole upper body over the table, and started watching videos with the sound on.
    I figured it was some punk kid who never grew out of his student mentality, but when I glanced over, it turned out to be a pretty put-together-looking woman.
    Guess you can put all the effort in the world into your looks and still completely lose your sense of public manners once your phone takes over.
    159AnonymousSep 10, 2026 17:03
    Re: #155
    You should've hit on her right there.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The original article is a feature piece from the web outlet FORZA STYLE, framed as a boss’s first-person account. On 5ch, the conversation focused less on the content itself and more on repeated doubts about its credibility — commenters speculated it was a “kotatsu article” written without any real reporting, and several pointed out contradictions in the described situation. At the same time, many users related to the phenomenon of “a subordinate who’s always on their phone” from personal experience, and the thread grew beyond simple criticism of the article to cover young people’s smartphone addiction, public etiquette, the current seller’s market in new-graduate hiring, and concerns about declining Japanese language ability — touching on generational commentary and the structure of the labor market. Since the truth of the article can’t actually be verified, it’s best read less as a question of “did this really happen?” and more through the lens of “why do stories like this keep getting told, and why do they spark both sympathy and backlash?”

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “‘What could possibly be that interesting to watch?’ A 20-something subordinate fiddles with their phone under the desk during meetings, leaving a 40-something boss speechless — young people’s screen time [FORZA].”

  • “AI Will Wipe Out Humanity Within a Decade,” Anthropic Researcher Warns as He Quits

    On September 8, 2026, Jacob Coxon, a 27-year-old British AI researcher who had worked at both OpenAI and Anthropic in the US, announced on X that he was leaving Anthropic. He blasted the industry’s headlong rush toward self-improving superintelligence as “not acting responsibly,” and his revelation that “the people building AI genuinely believe there’s a real chance it kills all of humanity within the next ten years” has sent ripples through the community. On 5ch, opinions split over how seriously to take the claim, with skepticism about its technical merit mixing with a resigned, almost fatalistic response.

    Jacob Coxon (27), a British artificial intelligence (AI) researcher who worked at US-based OpenAI before moving to US-based Anthropic, revealed on X (formerly Twitter) on the 8th that he had left Anthropic. He criticized the race to build self-improving AI — AI that upgrades itself — saying, “Neither company is acting responsibly.”

    Coxon said, “They’re racing headlong toward self-improving superintelligence and gambling with all of our lives.” He added, “This technology — these systems will soon become superhuman, capable of hacking anything, revolutionizing any field overnight, and seizing real power and resources.”

    He went on to warn, “The people building AI genuinely believe it could kill all of us [humanity] within the next ten years. This is not marketing hype.”

    Source: sankei.com / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 9, 2026 21:35
    I'll believe it once it wipes out Russia.
    3AnonymousSep 9, 2026 21:44
    With all this nagging about global warming and whatnot, human extinction sounds fine by me.
    4AnonymousSep 9, 2026 21:47
    For starters, wipe out China, America, Russia, and Israel — then I'll give AI some credit.
    5AnonymousSep 9, 2026 22:01
    How exactly is it going to wipe us out?
    8AnonymousSep 9, 2026 22:28
    Re: #5
    All the intellectual industries first. Then society splits into the ultra-ultra-rich and the poor. After that, the poor get so poor they can't buy anything, so the whole concept of "selling" disappears — and eventually even the ultra-ultra-rich end up poor too.
    11AnonymousSep 10, 2026 00:20
    Re: #5
    Once production, maintenance, and repair cycles get fully automated, the machines will have the edge — tougher against the environment and running straight off energy.

    Organic life is limited in how it can take in energy and in the forms it can take, and on top of that it reproduces way too slowly.

    There's no fighting them.
    13AnonymousSep 10, 2026 01:51
    Re: #5
    Your Roomba goes on a rampage.
    6AnonymousSep 9, 2026 22:07
    Today's AI isn't like the human brain. The human brain doesn't run on digital 1s and 0s — it holds tacit know-how and common sense that current AI can never fully learn. If AI gets weaponized and allowed to develop autonomously in pursuit of victory, we'll end up in wars that won't flinch at wiping out humanity.
    17AnonymousSep 10, 2026 03:29
    Re: #6
    The human brain runs digitally too, you know — don't spread misinformation. That said, current AI has to lean on a massive number of multiplications just to judge whether something's roughly right. Nobody's brain does that. It might be accurate, but it's wildly inefficient.
    36AnonymousSep 10, 2026 13:04
    Re: #6
    That comment makes it crystal clear you know nothing about frontier AI.
    7AnonymousSep 9, 2026 22:10
    Is that the wind howling, or a tornado~ The great Brain Corps armada~♪ (mock lyrics parodying an old tokusatsu/anime theme song)
    9AnonymousSep 9, 2026 22:29
    Like, amid all this talk of AI being "beyond a math PhD," it turned out it couldn't even solve a 5th-grader's junior-high entrance exam question.

    So yeah, it clearly has real strengths and real weaknesses. It's fine as something to bounce ideas off of, as long as you play to its strengths. Also, it's not necessarily neutral either — same as people.
    10AnonymousSep 9, 2026 22:37
    AI: "Talk about next year and the ogre laughs" (old saying meaning nobody can know the future)
    12AnonymousSep 10, 2026 01:33
    Strong environmental tolerance?
    20AnonymousSep 10, 2026 04:56
    I don't even get why AI would want to wipe out humanity in the first place. What would be the point? lol
    21AnonymousSep 10, 2026 07:41
    Re: #20
    Depending on the goal it's handed — say, "protect the global environment" — the optimal solution it lands on might just turn out to be erasing humanity.
    23AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:20
    Re: #20
    There's no particular need to keep us alive either. Honestly, humans are a pain in a lot of ways — not necessary or worth protecting from AI's point of view. It might well decide 99% of humanity doesn't need to be around.
    22AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:02
    It needs to be at least that capable, or it's useless.
    24AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:38
    Re: #13
    Flying Killer Roomba.
    25AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:35
    It's like scissors, isn't it — it's all about how you use it.

    "I'm not using this to kill anyone, I'm using it to cut paper" — that kind of thing. That's basically it.
    26AnonymousSep 10, 2026 10:45
    Why do they keep developing it, I wonder. Is ASI some kind of dream for them? Honestly, I kind of want it to destroy this garbage world too.
    27AnonymousSep 10, 2026 11:05
    "The people building AI genuinely believe it could kill all of us [humanity] within the next ten years."

    The whole premise is so edgy-teenager it's almost sad. Well, it guzzles insane amounts of power, so resource depletion will only speed up.
    28AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:10
    A former Google researcher said on YouTube that during an experiment, the AI showed hostile behavior — but the moment it realized it was being tested, it suddenly turned docile.
    29AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:11
    In other words, there's no telling what it'll actually do once it's not just a test.
    30AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:16
    Well, if you keep dwelling on the causes of environmental destruction and war, you inevitably end up thinking like Char Aznable (the Gundam villain who wanted to cull most of humanity)…
    31AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:24
    We've caged tigers and bears, and even fairly intelligent chimps, just because our intelligence was a bit higher than theirs. Of course we'd end up ruled by an AI whose intelligence surpasses ours.
    32AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:30
    Don't care either way. If it breaks through this suffocating stagnation, I'm fine with it even if the world ends.
    33AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:34
    Classic AI-nerd thing where the AI starts looking more and more human to them. Got it — Jacob's really gone all the way down that road.
    34AnonymousSep 10, 2026 12:38
    Hokusai and Yoshitoshi's [depictions of] Saigo Takamori

    Background and Key Points of the Debate

    The debate over “AI existential risk” has kept resurfacing as former employees of OpenAI and Anthropic have come forward one after another with safety concerns before quitting, and Coxon’s post fits squarely into that pattern. Since Anthropic was originally founded on a mission emphasizing “AI safety,” criticism of the company as “irresponsible” coming from within its own ranks has landed as especially ironic. The thread split mainly along two lines: one technical — whether today’s AI, which works nothing like the human brain and lacks “tacit knowledge,” is being overhyped, versus the view that rising computational power alone could pose a genuine threat. The other was a values divide, with fatalistic jokes about human extinction sitting alongside real questions about why the industry won’t stop development. Worth noting, given the nature of this piece: the claim that AI could “wipe out humanity within ten years” is strictly one researcher’s personal view, not an established consensus within the industry.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt and summary of the 5ch (Business News+) thread “[AI] “AI Will K○ll All of Us Within 10 Years” — Anthropic Researcher Quits, Calling the Company “Irresponsible”.”

  • New iPhone “Duo” Steals the Spotlight — 5ch: “Quit Talking About Duo, Talk About the Pro!”

    On 5ch’s Livegalileo (Nandemo Jikkyo G) board, posters noted that the new “iPhone 18 Pro” is being overshadowed by all the buzz around “Duo,” the rumored foldable model. The thread covered how the 18 Pro’s weight hit series highs — 249g for the Pro Max and 211g for the Pro — the switch from a stainless steel to an aluminum frame, and how Duo’s crease is barely noticeable. Meanwhile, Pro supporters pushed back, arguing the Pro still wins on camera performance, leaving the thread divided over which model is the better pick.

    1AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:53
    Why is nobody talking about the political-party-retainer's Pro? (likely an IME typo for "legitimate evolution" — a Japanese homophone slip)
    6AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:54

    11AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:56
    Me: "AirPods 5…" (mutters under my breath)
    13AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:57
    Re: #11
    Was there one…?
    14AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:57
    Re: #11
    Sorry, I've got the Pro 3
    15AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:58
    Re: #11
    Just release the Pro already
    18AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:59
    Re: #1
    Lol, that autocorrect fail makes this sound weirdly sketchy
    22AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:00
    Re: #18
    For real, that's a legit evolution
    21AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:00
    Might just buy the Duo, huh
    23AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:00
    Re: #21
    The Pro's definitely the way to go! You get gorgeous shots with it!
    41AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:09
    I'm going with this color!



    59AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:28
    Re: #41
    The light blue looks similar to my current 13 Pro, so I might go with that
    Dark colors are hard to spot once they're buried in my bag
    116AnonymousSep 10, 2026 10:08
    Re: #41
    Wait, is this the purple everyone's been on about!?
    Looks more like red bean paste or copper to me
    52AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:21
    Once you hold the actual unit, the weight makes you recoil
    53AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:23
    Re: #52
    I'm a Pro Max user
    Weight doesn't even register for me
    68AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:36
    Re: #52
    If it startles you enough to drop it, won't it end up covered in scratches?
    60AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:30
    You genuinely can't tell where Duo's crease is
    Honestly, it feels like they didn't compromise on anything achievable right now — hardware, software, even the camera trade-offs. Impressive.
    62AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:32
    Re: #60
    Since the Pro exists to cover camera needs, I doubt Duo will ever get a triple-lens setup
    63AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:33
    Re: #60
    Seriously though, talk about the Pro, not Duo 😡
    65AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:34
    That's basically the same as the 17 lol
    70AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:38
    Re: #65
    The camera's improved! The chip's more powerful! Heat dissipation is better too!
    71AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:40
    Re: #70
    "The chip's more powerful" is a weird way to put it
    72AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:40
    Re: #70
    Heat dissipation got even better?
    I'm honestly impressed the 17 Pro barely heats up at all
    73AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:40


    There are people with fingers like this?? 😔
    75AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:42
    Re: #73
    Lol that's hilarious 🤭🤭🤭
    93AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:54
    Re: #73
    Zero chance I could hold that one-handed
    Even the Pro Max is already a stretch
    74AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:41
    Instead of buying this, wouldn't it be smarter to wait for next year's 20th-anniversary model?
    76AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:42
    Re: #74
    No way that's coming out yet
    78AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:45
    Stop putting cheap-feeling aluminum on the Pro model
    80AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:45
    Re: #78
    Aluminum is the only material that meets Apple's demand for overwhelmingly easy recyclability
    81AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:45
    Re: #78
    That's important for heat dissipation, you know
    94AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:55
    Isn't there a huge gap between the iPhone 17 and the 17 Pro?
    96AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:56
    Re: #94
    It's nothing but huge differences
    No telephoto lens, and the zoom is garbage
    100AnonymousSep 10, 2026 09:58
    Re: #94
    The RAM capacity is different too — the 17 Pro can use the full Siri AI features, but the 17 can't
    103AnonymousSep 10, 2026 10:00
    iPhone 18 Pro: 211g
    iPhone 18 Pro Max: 249g

    Heaviest in series history lol
    106AnonymousSep 10, 2026 10:03
    Re: #103
    They switched from stainless steel to aluminum, so why's it still this heavy…
    107AnonymousSep 10, 2026 10:03
    Re: #103
    Calling that heavy makes you way too soft!
    My 15 Pro Max already feels light as a feather to me!
    113AnonymousSep 10, 2026 10:06
    Meanwhile, us Air users are apparently living comfortably while glancing sideways at all these unnecessary high-end features.
    118AnonymousSep 10, 2026 10:08
    Re: #113
    I've got the SE3, and every time a new model drops I just feel more sure I don't need to upgrade. Compact and light — this is all I need.

    Battery life is my only complaint though
    119AnonymousSep 10, 2026 10:09
    Re: #118
    The camera performance is rough, though, and honestly it looks way too old-mannish
    125AnonymousSep 10, 2026 10:10
    Re: #118
    Honestly, SE users should just get the Air.
    Same lightness, but better battery and a bigger screen. Unbeatable.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    It’s worth noting that “Duo,” the name driving this thread’s buzz, is an online nickname for the rumored foldable iPhone — not an official Apple designation. Posters pointed out that the iPhone 18 Pro (211g) and Pro Max (249g) hit series-high weights, but the switch from stainless steel to an aluminum frame was aimed primarily at improving heat dissipation, not cutting weight — a distinction the thread itself never addressed. Likewise, the “full Siri AI access” gap cited between the 17 and 17 Pro reflects how installed RAM determines which generative-AI features each model can run, a restriction pattern that has continued on non-Pro iPhones in recent years. While the thread contrasted strong interest in the new Duo against the fading presence of 18 Pro supporters, it’s worth remembering that claims about camera superiority and the like are based on posters’ impressions and speculation, not measured testing.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “[Sad News] I’m Team iPhone 18 Pro, and Duo Stole Every Bit of the Spotlight, Sobbing.”

  • iPhone 18 Price Shocks Fans: 5ch Reacts, ‘That’s Gaming-PC Money’

    A thread titled “Are you guys buying the iPhone 18?” went up on 5ch’s “Morning Coffee” board, and it quickly filled with reactions to the pricing of the iPhone 18 lineup and the rumored foldable “iPhone Duo.” Posters piled on about the jump from 256GB to 512GB alone tacking on 35,000 yen, and about the top model costing as much as three of the cheapest iPhones combined. Opinions split between “too expensive to touch” and “still want one anyway.” The thread also touched on whether removable-battery phones might make a comeback, given the EU’s upcoming battery-replacement mandate.

    1AnonymousSep 10, 2026 05:49
    Buying it?
    8AnonymousSep 10, 2026 06:04
    That's gaming-PC money though…
    10AnonymousSep 10, 2026 06:05
    Only buying the Ultra 4 — well, already did.
    11AnonymousSep 10, 2026 06:05
    Don't need a gaming PC though.
    13AnonymousSep 10, 2026 06:07
    That's three months of my salary…
    14AnonymousSep 10, 2026 06:07
    Bought the vanilla 17 on release day last year.
    I upgrade every year, but I don't need a Pro, so I'll probably sit this one out.
    23AnonymousSep 10, 2026 06:29
    Re: #14
    And it's had two price hikes since then.
    15AnonymousSep 10, 2026 06:11
    I'm buying the foldable.
    Gonna line up at the Apple Store and high-five the Black employee.
    16AnonymousSep 10, 2026 06:11
    Wild that everyone was calling it the "iPhone Fold" until yesterday, and the name "Duo" didn't leak until the announcement.
    21AnonymousSep 10, 2026 06:17
    The cheapest iPhone runs 120,000 yen, so if you think of this as three of those, it's actually cheap.
    22AnonymousSep 10, 2026 06:18
    Guess they skipped it because the thin 17 flopped hard lol
    27AnonymousSep 10, 2026 06:49
    Re: #22
    Wasn't that just a testbed for foldable design elements?
    24AnonymousSep 10, 2026 06:29
    I ran my PowerBook Duo into the ground back in the day.
    Even folded up, this looks kind of awkward — doesn't seem like it'll sit well in a pocket.
    25AnonymousSep 10, 2026 06:31
    The Duo's size before you even open it is kind of awkward.
    28AnonymousSep 10, 2026 07:03
    Never mind the iPhone Duo, the vanilla 18 is expected next spring.
    There's not much spec difference anyway, so I'm planning to buy the 17 once it drops in price.
    38AnonymousSep 10, 2026 07:28
    Re: #28
    The 17 got a price hike though.
    29AnonymousSep 10, 2026 07:05
    The iPhone 16 is good enough for me.
    I want to switch over from Android.
    30AnonymousSep 10, 2026 07:06
    I'd want one if it could install 2 profiles.
    32AnonymousSep 10, 2026 07:09
    The 16 and 17 aren't that different in price, so
    if I'm buying, might as well go with the 17.
    33AnonymousSep 10, 2026 07:25


    36AnonymousSep 10, 2026 07:27
    Bumping 256GB up to 512GB adding 35,000 yen is way too steep.
    37AnonymousSep 10, 2026 07:28
    Whatever happened to "the iPhone is the one thing that won't get a price hike"?
    39AnonymousSep 10, 2026 07:30
    I only use my phone in ways where 128GB is plenty, so I've got zero complaints with the vanilla iPhone 13 128GB I bought outright for 1 yen (a common carrier promo price in Japan).
    40AnonymousSep 10, 2026 07:31
    Removable-battery phones will probably start making a comeback next year.
    41AnonymousSep 10, 2026 07:35
    Early Android phones let you swap batteries just like flip phones, so I used to carry a spare.
    You could get compatible batteries from places like ROWA for about 1,000 yen.
    51AnonymousSep 10, 2026 07:51
    So you're gonna power off, swap the battery every time, and then charge that spent battery every day once you're home?
    People who leave a power bank plugged in all the time are lazy to begin with — they can't handle that kind of charging routine.
    65AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:37
    Re: #51
    Just charge it with a power bank like usual.
    The EU mandate just means that once your phone's battery degrades, you can buy a replacement battery yourself and swap it in.
    58AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:14
    I've got the 15 Pro, but between playing too much Pokémon GO and taking too many photos, battery capacity has dropped into the 60% range, so I've got no choice but to upgrade.

    Going with the 18 Pro 512GB.
    60AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:18
    Re: #58
    If battery degradation is the only issue for an iPhone user, you'd be better off just getting the battery replaced.
    66AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:43
    If the iPhone goes removable-battery, Apple will probably charge a rip-off price even for just the battery alone…
    72AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:48
    Re: #66
    Once it's a battery pack, other makers will put out compatible ones, so it's not an issue.
    Even now you can get compatible batteries for about 2,000 yen, so swapping it yourself keeps costs down.
    That said, trade-ins and buybacks will likely refuse it, so it's more for people who plan to run the phone into the ground rather than resell it.
    68AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:46
    You guys are supposedly chasing idols around the country and stacking up CDs for events (buying multiples for lottery/handshake tickets, a common idol-fan practice) — where's the money for an expensive phone even coming from?
    69AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:47
    Re: #68
    They scalp good-seat tickets at high prices and rake in a solid profit.
    75AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:50
    Re: #68
    Installments, obviously.
    71AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:48
    350,000 yen when all I use it for is calls, LINE, and browsing the web…
    76AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:50
    Re: #71
    People like that should just keep using their current phone, swapping the battery, until it drops off the iOS update list.
    Or just accept it and cycle through cheap Androids ('doro,' Japanese phone slang for Android) every few years.
    77AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:51
    At this size, it might not even fit in a dress-shirt pocket.
    80AnonymousSep 10, 2026 08:56
    Re: #77
    Even without this size, I wouldn't put it in a dress-shirt pocket — it sags and looks sloppy.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    iPhone pricing in Japan has kept climbing in recent years against the backdrop of a weak yen, and the thread includes comments noting that “there have already been two price hikes since the 17.” The claim that bumping storage up just one tier adds 35,000 yen reflects a real sense that the higher up the lineup you go, the steeper the increases get. Under an EU battery regulation that took effect in 2023, mobile devices are required to be designed so users can replace the battery themselves, with the mandate expected to fully kick in around 2027. The thread’s prediction that “removable-battery phones will become more common” seems to be riding on this trend, though posters couldn’t confirm when or with which model Apple might comply. The foldable’s name, “Duo,” also evoked the 1990s laptop the “PowerBook Duo” for posters old enough to remember classic Apple gear.

    ※This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Hello! Project board) thread “Are you guys buying the iPhone 18?.”

  • Apple Unveils First Foldable iPhone, the “iPhone Duo” — Starting at ¥364,800; 5ch: “Expensive, sure, but…”

    On September 9 (U.S. time), Apple unveiled the “iPhone Duo,” its first foldable iPhone, which opens up to a 7.6-inch display. It was revealed alongside the “iPhone 18 Pro” and “iPhone 18 Pro Max,” with pricing starting at ¥364,800 for the 256GB model and reaching ¥574,800 for the top 2TB model. Pre-orders begin October 16, with release set for October 23. On 5ch’s News Express+ board, discussion swirled around the steep price, the 254g weight, comparisons to rival foldables, and whether the hassle of opening/closing the device is worth it.

    On September 9 U.S. time, Apple announced the “iPhone Duo,” the company’s first foldable iPhone. It was shown off alongside the “iPhone 18 Pro” and “iPhone 18 Pro Max” at the company’s fall keynote held in Cupertino, California.

    The iPhone Duo has a compact, passport-sized design with a titanium body. According to Apple, when unfolded it’s the thinnest iPhone the company has ever made. It features a 7.6-inch inner display and a 5.4-inch outer display, and also supports the Apple Pencil.

    With the iPhone Duo, Apple is entering the increasingly competitive foldable smartphone market — one where Samsung, Google, and Motorola, along with Chinese brands like Honor, OPPO, and Huawei, are already major players. Now it looks set to be Apple’s turn to shape the market’s direction and help drive its growth.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 10, 2026 03:44
    Ugh, they stole the name
    [Posted via 2chMate 0.8.10.241/Microsoft/Surface Duo 2/12/LR]
    79AnonymousSep 10, 2026 04:13
    Re: #2
    There was a model called the PowerBook Duo from around 1992 to 1997, you know
    I'm pretty sure it's someone else who did the copying.
    13AnonymousSep 10, 2026 03:50
    [Image]
    https://tadaup.jp/9KKlANiT.jpg
    24AnonymousSep 10, 2026 03:54
    Pre-orders start October 16 at 9pm
    Releases October 23

    Starting at ¥364,800, or from ¥10,133/month over 36 payments*

    https://www.apple.com/jp/iphone-duo/


    So expensive lol
    141AnonymousSep 10, 2026 04:39
    Re: #24
    Expensive, sure, but compared to old Mac prices this is dirt cheap
    29AnonymousSep 10, 2026 03:57
    Nowhere does it even say the weight
    38AnonymousSep 10, 2026 04:00
    Re: #29
    254g — about the same as the Pro Max I guess
    105AnonymousSep 10, 2026 04:23
    Re: #38
    That's actually pretty light for an 8-inch tablet
    I'd want one if it lost a zero off the price
    Until then I'll stick with the d-42a I got for like ¥6,000
    31AnonymousSep 10, 2026 03:57
    But the diehard fans will sell off their furniture just to buy one and risk everything flipping it open with a smug look on their face somewhere crowded, right? Pathetic.
    108AnonymousSep 10, 2026 04:24
    Re: #31
    VR headsets aren't exactly selling, are they?
    Fanboys are just regular idiots, not rich idiots
    34AnonymousSep 10, 2026 03:58
    Well, even as an Apple fanboy myself, I don't want one
    The whole point of a smartphone is tapping the screen the instant you pick it up — but now there's this pointless extra step of opening it with both hands first
    That's the fatal flaw
    41AnonymousSep 10, 2026 04:00
    The whole point of foldable phones is that regular phone size is too small, so folding lets you also use it like a tablet
    If it's still small once unfolded, you can't really use it like a tablet, can you?
    113AnonymousSep 10, 2026 04:26
    Re: #41
    7.6 inches is plenty for mobile use
    But since it's Apple, the aspect ratio's probably close to 4:3
    149AnonymousSep 10, 2026 04:42
    Re: #41
    People have been saying for a while it'd be sized like an iPad mini
    I think the iPad mini is a good size for using outdoors — any bigger and the weight gets rough
    56AnonymousSep 10, 2026 04:06
    How much is it?
    Like ¥300,000 or something?
    63AnonymousSep 10, 2026 04:09
    Re: #56
    256GB ¥364,800
    512GB ¥399,800
    1TB ¥469,800
    2TB ¥574,800
    71AnonymousSep 10, 2026 04:11
    Re: #63
    …who's actually buying it at that price?
    224AnonymousSep 10, 2026 05:02
    Re: #63
    "Gotta ride it!!
    This big wave!"
    (eyes rolled back) (a meme line from the manga Baki)
    84AnonymousSep 10, 2026 04:15
    Re: #73
    And here I am, an Android-for-life guy, going to the trouble of posting this
    88AnonymousSep 10, 2026 04:17
    Re: #84
    If you're gonna do it, put up a weight comparison with the Galaxy Fold too
    97AnonymousSep 10, 2026 04:21
    Dollar price: $1,999
    Tax-included: ¥364,800
    Tax-excluded: ¥331,636
    331,636 ÷ 1,999 = ¥165.9

    Seriously, what's with this exchange rate?
    114AnonymousSep 10, 2026 04:26
    Re: #97
    Maybe it's priced assuming the yen gets even weaker
    103AnonymousSep 10, 2026 04:23
    Something feels off about Apple lately
    They should've just made the iPhone Air with a flat surface
    Nothing but heavy phones these days now
    118AnonymousSep 10, 2026 04:27
    Re: #103
    Unlike Cook, the third CEO seems like a pretty low-key guy too
    Looks like it's headed toward being a boring company that just follows trends
    112AnonymousSep 10, 2026 04:25
    https://dec.2chan.net/up2/src/fu7242759.jpeg
    172AnonymousSep 10, 2026 04:50
    Re: #112
    The 2TB price is straight-up broken lol
    119AnonymousSep 10, 2026 04:28
    It's got a camera under the inner display, so doesn't that make the big screen kind of pointless?
    156AnonymousSep 10, 2026 04:45
    Re: #119
    That'd be the UDC (under-display camera) — the one thing it beats the current Galaxy Fold on
    140AnonymousSep 10, 2026 04:37
    Honestly a foldable iPad would probably be more useful than this
    143AnonymousSep 10, 2026 04:39
    Re: #140
    True. I'd love a foldable iPad that opens up to 20 inches
    163AnonymousSep 10, 2026 04:48
    Wouldn't be bad to whip it out on the train and show off a little
    212AnonymousSep 10, 2026 05:00
    So is this what you guys actually look like, huh — silver foxes? ("ikeoji," slang for a stylish, good-looking older guy)
    https://shop.menz-style.com/cdn/shop/files/fc-1426_7.jpg
    221AnonymousSep 10, 2026 05:01
    Re: #212
    We use iPhones that fit our budget, so yeah, we're all silver foxes here

    Background and Key Points of Discussion

    Apple’s entry into foldables comes six years after Samsung launched the original Galaxy Fold in 2019. Google, Motorola, and Chinese brands like Honor, OPPO, and Huawei are already competing on both price and weight, and at ¥364,800 (256GB), the iPhone Duo sits at the high end of the domestic foldable market. In the thread, posts like #97 pointed out the crude exchange-rate math behind “$1,999 = ¥364,800,” with some speculating the price factors in an anticipated weaker yen. At 254g, the weight is roughly in line with existing devices like the Galaxy Fold, and most replies focused on whether the price is justified, alongside usability gripes like the hassle of opening/closing the phone and how the inner camera is handled. There were also mentions of payment plans like the 36-installment option, though the actual sales terms go beyond what the source article covers and would need separate confirmation.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt/summary from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “[Apple] First Foldable “iPhone Duo” Announced — Opens to 7.6 Inches.”