Category: Tech

  • What certifications won’t go obsolete in the AI era? Forklift license and “denken” electrical engineer license come up top

    On 5ch’s “Live Everything G” board, a thread heated up over which certifications and jobs are likely to keep their value even as AI takes over more work. Hands-on, legally mandated credentials like the forklift operator training course and the Certified Chief Electric Engineer (“denken”) license came up as safe bets, while some argued that tax accountants and middle managers are “on the verge of being replaced by AI.” The thread split over whether white-collar or blue-collar work will get wiped out first, and posters pointed to real examples of the shifting labor market, like companies reassigning AI-displaced staff into caregiving jobs.

    1AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:29
    Realistically only jobs dealing with the physical world, and law, are gonna survive
    2AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:30
    Pharma company researchers are seriously done for, apparently…
    3AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:31
    Brain-work jobs that don't need a body are gonna be the first to get replaced, for sure
    4AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:33
    National licenses under the Industrial Safety and Health Act will never go obsolete
    You know, the kind where they actually issue you a physical license
    5AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:33
    Certifications anyone can get just turn into humans fighting each other over the same seats anyway
    7AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:34
    Is it actually true that almost every tax accountant is gonna get replaced by AI?
    12AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:35
    Re: #7
    Apparently there's work only licensed tax accountants are legally allowed to do, so they're barely hanging on because of that
    30AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:44
    Re: #7
    A working tax accountant was debating this on YouTube, and the takeaway was basically:
    – almost all the actual work will get replaced by AI
    – but that doesn't mean tax accountants lose their value right away
    8AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:34
    I'm mainly in logistics, but even forklifts are getting automated now…
    10AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:34
    Chefs

    Also, I think dietitians/nutritionists will become unnecessary
    11AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:35
    Physical AI (robots) is getting cheaper too, you know
    14AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:36
    Isn't law exactly the kind of thing AI is good at?
    16AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:37
    English conversation teachers and diet trainers are gonna vanish soon
    So are cram school instructors and private tutors
    17AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:37
    Pray that robotics doesn't keep advancing
    18AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:38
    Generic "management" skills are really gonna become worthless
    Those guys look like they'd even pull power-harassment on a physical AI robot
    20AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:40
    Re: #18
    Whether or not it actually happens, AI is already way better than humans at the routine, standardized work typical middle managers do
    28AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:43
    Re: #18
    According to recent research, "bullshit jobs" exist mainly to give people a paycheck, so they're predicted to be among the last things to disappear
    19AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:40
    When machines first showed up in factories, everyone said "people are about to vanish from factories any minute now!"
    And yet decades later, humans still haven't disappeared from factory floors
    21AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:40
    The labs that build and maintain the AI itself will be the last ones standing
    37AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:50
    Impressed that a fellow board regular said pro wrestlers will survive lol
    72AnonymousSep 8, 2026 13:07
    Re: #37
    AI pro wrestling still can't do anything but bizarre, nonsensical moves
    49AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:57
    At the end of the day I feel like white-collar workers are gonna survive somehow
    It's a world where smart, well-connected people who are good at building vested interests are the ones who make it
    So somehow it feels like blue-collar workers, who have less of that going for them, are the ones who'll get weeded out instead
    54AnonymousSep 8, 2026 13:00
    Re: #49
    In Japan, sorting out the interests of vested-interest groups and revising laws takes an insanely long time, so AI replacement is definitely still a long way off
    55AnonymousSep 8, 2026 13:00
    Re: #49
    No way
    In AI-advanced countries, white-collar workers are getting laid off left and right and switching into blue-collar jobs
    Physical AI robots will probably replace the high-margin blue-collar jobs too, but nobody's gonna bother developing them for low-margin work
    Humans will end up doing those jobs instead
    67AnonymousSep 8, 2026 13:04
    Re: #49
    It won't disappear completely, but only the true elite will be left standing
    Mediocre white-collar workers will become unnecessary
    50AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:58
    Truck drivers
    56AnonymousSep 8, 2026 13:01
    Re: #50
    They're already testing driverless trucks on the highway

    Well, what matters is how many more years the job will last
    As long as it lasts through the rest of your working life, that's fine
    58AnonymousSep 8, 2026 13:02
    Once that kind of era hits, it's the classic pattern: talented people move down into blue-collar work and push out the current bottom-tier workers
    61AnonymousSep 8, 2026 13:03
    Re: #58
    Could they actually cut it though?
    64AnonymousSep 8, 2026 13:04
    Re: #61
    They're talented, so of course they can cut it
    69AnonymousSep 8, 2026 13:05
    Re: #64
    Plenty of people can't even hack it in a factory though
    71AnonymousSep 8, 2026 13:07
    Was it Nippon Life?
    That bought a nursing-care company
    Apparently they're funneling employees made redundant by AI into caregiving jobs
    This kind of thing is only gonna increase from here
    77AnonymousSep 8, 2026 13:11
    Re: #71
    Smart move
    Japan's regulations against firing full-time employees are brutally strict, so being able to transfer them within the corporate group is efficient
    82AnonymousSep 8, 2026 13:13
    Re: #69
    That's just, like, your opinion, man
    83AnonymousSep 8, 2026 13:15
    Re: #82
    Transferring people into the field to make them quit "on their own" is already a thing that happens
    96AnonymousSep 8, 2026 13:32
    Re: #83
    You're the one who's gonna end up quitting
    84AnonymousSep 8, 2026 13:15
    I really think big companies entering the caregiving business is gonna keep increasing from here
    They'll need somewhere to dump their surplus staff
    86AnonymousSep 8, 2026 13:17
    Re: #84
    They've already piled in ages ago and failed over and over
    89AnonymousSep 8, 2026 13:24
    Isn't the popular real estate broker license ("takken") also safe from becoming worthless?
    No way AI can read out the legally required disclosure explanation, right?
    95AnonymousSep 8, 2026 13:31
    Re: #89
    Not unless the industry law gets revised
    If you've actually got real-world experience in the real estate industry, you're probably saying that fully aware of what the takken license is really worth in practice

    Background and key points of this discussion

    The forklift operator training mentioned in the thread is a “skills training course” obtainable through institutions registered with prefectural labor bureaus — institutionally, a different category from a national exam like the Certified Chief Electric Engineer (“denken”) license. What the two have in common is that they involve hands-on work or legally required personnel appointments, which structurally makes them hard to replace with AI’s core strength of pure information processing. The thread’s comments clustered heavily around white-collar jobs like tax accountants and middle managers, but opinions stayed split — without reaching any conclusion — on whether white-collar layoffs are really happening first in AI-advanced countries, and just how much Japan’s employment protection laws will slow down replacement.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Live Everything G) thread “Certifications that will never go obsolete even in the AI era: forklift, denken… what else?“.

  • Pushback on “The Only Decent Android Is Galaxy” — 5ch Divided Over Which Phone Reigns Supreme

    A thread on 5ch’s “Live Anything G” board (a general live-commentary board where users post in real time about whatever’s in the news) kicked off over how to pick an Android phone. It started with a post claiming “the only decent Android is Galaxy,” with posters recommending the Fold8 and the mid-range Galaxy A57, while Xperia kept taking hits over camera quality and Pixel got dragged for its past battery-fire issues and weak sales overseas. The conversation eventually spilled into iPhone-vs-Android territory too, splitting the room over OS usability and value for money.

    1AnonymousSep 8, 2026 08:36
    Can't be helped.
    4AnonymousSep 8, 2026 08:38
    Xperia gets mocked, but I think its barely-there AI photo processing will get the appreciation it deserves someday.
    5AnonymousSep 8, 2026 08:39
    Re: #4
    Xperia's blown-out highlights are brutal though…
    it's terrible with night shots and backlighting.
    74AnonymousSep 8, 2026 09:27
    Re: #4
    Xperia's camera comes in dead last
    every single time in flagship camera comparisons.
    It's been the clear worst for like 10 years straight,
    it's basically trash at this point.
    11AnonymousSep 8, 2026 08:45
    Give me some mid-range recommendations.
    I'm on a Pixel right now.
    18AnonymousSep 8, 2026 08:48
    Re: #11
    Galaxy, obviously.
    Get the Fold8.
    25AnonymousSep 8, 2026 08:53
    Re: #11
    I hear the Galaxy A57 is pretty solid.
    76AnonymousSep 8, 2026 09:28
    Re: #11
    M-m-m…
    MID-RANGE lmaooooooo
    it's the MIDDLE and yet the END lmaoooooo
    12AnonymousSep 8, 2026 08:46
    Is Pixel done for too now?
    14AnonymousSep 8, 2026 08:47
    Re: #12
    Pixel's just expensive for nothing these days.
    Plus the 6a caught fire.
    77AnonymousSep 8, 2026 09:28
    Re: #12
    It's only ever sold in Japan anyway.
    20AnonymousSep 8, 2026 08:50
    Why can't Japanese makers build a phone that's easier for Japanese users than Galaxy?
    Not talking spec sheets, I mean the fine details of the UI.
    [Posted via 2chMate 0.8.10.241/samsung/SCG37/16/LR]
    51AnonymousSep 8, 2026 09:05
    Re: #20
    Nobody anywhere in the world can pull that off.
    [Posted via 2chMate 0.8.10.241/samsung/SM-S942Q/16/DR]
    60AnonymousSep 8, 2026 09:16
    Re: #20
    Japanese companies can't build software.
    They're great at hardware though.
    23AnonymousSep 8, 2026 08:51
    Re: #18
    I'm curious about the Fold, but for that price
    wouldn't the S series make more sense?
    I get that the big multi-panel display drives up cost,
    but the rest of the specs just don't justify the price.
    26AnonymousSep 8, 2026 08:53
    Re: #23
    Foldables have brutal repair costs.
    28AnonymousSep 8, 2026 08:53
    Re: #23
    Well, it's only a dual-lens setup.
    But dual-lens is the norm now anyway —
    saw an article somewhere saying only about 20% of people
    actually use the telephoto lens properly.
    29AnonymousSep 8, 2026 08:54
    I'm tech-illiterate, sticking with my Oppo.
    31AnonymousSep 8, 2026 08:54
    Re: #29
    Not bad as a mid-ranger.
    32AnonymousSep 8, 2026 08:54
    Re: #29
    Oppo's really faded into the background lately.
    47AnonymousSep 8, 2026 09:03
    Why not just get an iPhone?
    56AnonymousSep 8, 2026 09:10
    Re: #47
    I went from an SE3 to a 17e as my secondary phone,
    but iOS is honestly too garbage to live with.
    57AnonymousSep 8, 2026 09:12
    Re: #56
    You'd have to really want to throw away 100,000 yen
    [~$700] to buy an 🍎 in the first place.
    58AnonymousSep 8, 2026 09:13
    Re: #57
    Might as well buy a toy you can't even use.
    78AnonymousSep 8, 2026 09:30
    Re: #57
    Re: #58
    That's just you not knowing how to use it.
    65AnonymousSep 8, 2026 09:19
    You guys only use it for gaming anyway, so who cares which one?
    66AnonymousSep 8, 2026 09:19
    Re: #65
    Opposite, actually — I don't game at all.
    68AnonymousSep 8, 2026 09:20
    Re: #65
    Isn't the gaming crowd exactly the pickiest about this stuff?
    79AnonymousSep 8, 2026 09:33
    The Sense10 is good.
    A bit pricey for its specs, though.
    80AnonymousSep 8, 2026 09:34
    Re: #79
    "Pricey for its specs" — so zero selling points, lol.
    81AnonymousSep 8, 2026 09:35
    Re: #79
    It's good for a "mid-ranger" lol, right?
    Feels like a lot of people who'd be perfectly happy with this
    end up buying an iPhone instead.
    82AnonymousSep 8, 2026 09:36
    Galaxy isn't just "decent," it's flat-out the strongest there is.

    For people who don't game, Pixel is basically a better iPhone.
    That's why the iPhone crowd has been piling on Pixel so hard lately.
    86AnonymousSep 8, 2026 09:42
    Re: #82
    Pixel's garbage that doesn't even sell worldwide.
    How is that "better" anything?
    87AnonymousSep 8, 2026 09:42
    Re: #82
    Have you actually used a Pixel?
    It's so heavy I'd never touch one again.
    83AnonymousSep 8, 2026 09:39
    Xperia is still the best for music and video, honestly.
    Sure, it's got problems elsewhere,
    but it gets way more hate than it deserves.
    89AnonymousSep 8, 2026 09:45
    Re: #83
    You say "great for music," but in the era of wireless earbuds,
    it doesn't matter how good Xperia's own hardware is.
    And if you're streaming on Spotify or whatever,
    the source audio is the real bottleneck anyway.
    Bottom line, Xperia's just for audio nerds now.
    95AnonymousSep 8, 2026 09:47
    Re: #83
    It's so expensive I honestly can't decide what to get next.
    [Posted via 2chMate 0.8.10.241/Sony/XQ-EC44/16/LT]
    93AnonymousSep 8, 2026 09:46
    Re: #86
    In the US it's not just resale value — there are actual discounts,
    so it ends up cheaper than in Japan.
    By the way, plenty of people in the US call out
    the iPhone's weak performance too, lol.
    99AnonymousSep 8, 2026 09:48
    Re: #93
    Performance hasn't really been weak since around the iPhone 13.
    The price, though…

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The Pixel 6a battery-fire issue raised in the thread isn’t just idle mudslinging — it’s a documented problem that Google addressed in 2024 with an actual battery replacement/warranty program. Xperia, meanwhile, takes a beating over camera quality in the thread, but it still has a loyal following for its music and video playback, making it a phone whose reputation really hinges on how you use it. The thread’s tension boils down to two recurring fault lines — “performance vs. usability” and “built for Japan vs. built for the world” — so there’s no simple ranking that settles it. The device signatures visible in some posts, left by 2chMate (a popular third-party 5ch browser that auto-tags posts with the poster’s phone model), suggest actual Galaxy and Xperia owners were weighing in themselves, not just spectators.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (“Live Anything G” board) thread “[Sad News] Decent Android Phones Have Finally Narrowed Down to Just Galaxy.”

  • WEST.’s Shigeoka Daiki Didn’t Consult Members Before First Child’s Birth — The Final Straw Behind Kotaki and Fujii’s Departure

    In the ongoing story of WEST.’s Kotaki Nozomu and Fujii Ryusei announcing their departure from STARTO ENTERTAINMENT, it’s been reported that Shigeoka Daiki failing to tell the other members in advance about the birth of his first child became one of the deciding factors behind their departure. On September 5, member Nakama Junta appeared live on a TV program and apologized to fans and industry figures. On the 5channel Geinou/Sports News+ (Geisoku) thread, opinions clashed: some argued it’s out of line to criticize someone over marriage or having a child, while others said that failing to inform fellow group members in advance is a serious breach of trust when you’re part of a group act.

    “I’m sorry for causing anxiety and worry for our fans, and for causing so much trouble for everyone involved.”

    The one who apologized during a live appearance on ABC TV’s Oshiete! News Live Seigi no Mikata on September 5 was Nakama Junta (38).

    (details omitted)

    Source: jisin.jp / Read the original article here

    5AnonymousSep 8, 2026 11:32
    Is there any appeal left in a unit that's lost Kotaki and E-girls' little brother? (referring to Fujii Ryusei, said to be related to an E-girls-affiliated member)
    9AnonymousSep 8, 2026 11:35
    Re: #5
    Pretty sure he's the older brother, not the younger one
    6AnonymousSep 8, 2026 11:33
    I get why you wouldn't want to broadcast marriage or kids in that industry.
    The moment you tell someone, it'll leak somewhere and the tabloid vultures will swarm.
    24AnonymousSep 8, 2026 11:43
    Re: #6
    So basically he didn't even trust the members he was supposedly close with.
    Not telling them where you live, sure, that's just a joke. But not telling your bandmates you got married, let alone that you already had a kid — that's grounds enough to quit the group.
    14AnonymousSep 8, 2026 11:40
    No need to get mad over marriage and kids, of all things.
    That's supposed to be a happy occasion.
    The idol world is really twisted.
    30AnonymousSep 8, 2026 11:45
    Re: #14
    As long as you're active in an idol group, that's not okay.
    Just announcing marriage would be one thing, but people were already stunned that a kid had been born — and on top of that, he kept it from the members until right before the announcement? That's disrespecting both the fans and the members.
    37AnonymousSep 8, 2026 11:48
    Re: #14
    If you're a solo singer or actor, do whatever you want, but if you're in a Johnny's group with other members, that's not fine.
    15AnonymousSep 8, 2026 11:40
    There's apparently talk of Kotaki and Fujii forming a unit — think it'll actually sell?
    40AnonymousSep 8, 2026 11:49
    Re: #15
    Past 30 and saying 'we'll be proper idols'… come on.
    18AnonymousSep 8, 2026 11:41
    'Consulting members in advance about your first child's birth' is such a weird way to put it
    38AnonymousSep 8, 2026 11:48
    Re: #18
    Right?
    What, is he supposed to ask 'my girlfriend's pregnant, is it okay if we have the baby'?
    19AnonymousSep 8, 2026 11:42
    > In a 2021 Weekly Asahi interview, Kotaki said, 'Our biggest strength is how close we are. We won't lose to any other group on that!'

    Funny how the groups that push 'we're so close' tend to be the most fragile.
    41AnonymousSep 8, 2026 11:49
    Re: #19
    Just means they don't have anything else to sell, doesn't it.
    20AnonymousSep 8, 2026 11:42
    More and more idols, guys and girls both, just doing whatever they want lately.
    Maybe it's time to just retire the whole 'idol' marketing gimmick.
    25AnonymousSep 8, 2026 11:43
    Re: #20
    Once you're past 30, just let people live.
    Though yeah, I do think once you're married you should probably leave the group idol life.
    If it's not a group you're actively joining, I don't see the problem.
    26AnonymousSep 8, 2026 11:44
    Not telling anyone you had a kid is just the worst.
    You're working as a unit — this isn't some one-man sports day.
    85AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:07
    Re: #26
    As someone who likes to keep work and private life separate, I get the feeling.
    If this were a regular company employee, you'd need to disclose some personal stuff for things like ceremonial-occasion allowances or dependent benefits.
    But none of that applies to these guys, right?
    93AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:10
    Re: #85
    Well, they're idols — it's a popularity business.
    Marriage and childbirth aren't just personal matters, they affect the whole group.
    At the very least, sharing the info beforehand should've been necessary.
    101AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:12
    Re: #85
    If he was going to hide it from both the agency and the members, he should've just kept the marriage and the birth itself secret entirely.
    Isn't that what 'separating work and private life' actually means?
    28AnonymousSep 8, 2026 11:44
    Re: #24
    They were probably just close coworkers, not actual best friends.
    39AnonymousSep 8, 2026 11:48
    Re: #28
    Well, it's not like it's a 'workplace' that produces anything.
    If you're selling yourself as an idol, marriage is a huge change that can tank your commercial value.
    And not even telling the members he already had a kid — that's basically implying, 'if I tell you guys something that hurts my value, you'll leak it.'
    44AnonymousSep 8, 2026 11:50
    This old geezer can't tell if the group's called STARTO or West lol
    60AnonymousSep 8, 2026 11:56
    Re: #44
    It was Johnny's group 'Johnny's WEST,' so you should know that much.
    47AnonymousSep 8, 2026 11:50
    Idol groups should just disband once everyone hits 35.
    Is there any upside to keeping going past that? They'll already have fans, so solo work should work out fine.
    54AnonymousSep 8, 2026 11:52
    Re: #47
    25 is plenty. Even that feels like they're already too grown-up for it, honestly.
    56AnonymousSep 8, 2026 11:53
    If anything he got married kind of late for his age, and people are still going on and on and on about it.
    84AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:07
    Re: #56
    That's not the point. The issue is he hid from the members that he was married and had a kid.
    59AnonymousSep 8, 2026 11:55
    So he didn't even tell them after the baby was already born?
    Past 30 and pulling that — come on.
    77AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:04
    Re: #59
    Something's off with that, yeah.
    64AnonymousSep 8, 2026 11:57
    They should really make a rule that idol groups disband once members turn 30.
    Getting complained at for getting married in your late 30s/40s is just absurd.
    79AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:05
    Re: #64
    V6 disbanded, but Tonisen (the group's older-member trio) kept right on performing though.
    81AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:06
    Not even telling his own agency manager his address is wild.
    So does that mean he handles all his own comings and goings himself?
    103AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:12
    Re: #81
    Apparently he meets his manager somewhere near his house.
    If he drove his own car to a job, people would find out the make and plate number, so he wouldn't do that.
    Casual clothes are off-limits too — he reportedly prepares outfits that just look casual for photos.
    113AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:15
    Re: #81
    I heard he has a decoy house and the pickup car goes there instead.
    82AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:06
    What's with a guy needing to 'consult' his coworkers about having a baby?
    Does he need their approval before they're allowed to have the kid or something?
    96AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:11
    Re: #82
    If marriage and kids affect an idol's popularity (and income), you'd want to ramp up solo work to make up for it.
    To prepare for that, the others would want a heads-up in advance — not for 'permission,' but because they're professionals too.
    102AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:12
    Re: #85
    Idols who exist because of their fans don't get that luxury.
    Even Kimutaku (Kimura Takuya) properly reported his marriage, after all.
    109AnonymousSep 8, 2026 12:14
    Re: #101

    Re: #102 What's wrong with doing the same thing Kimutaku did?
    Did Katori, Kusanagi, Nakai, and Inagaki (his SMAP bandmates) actually get told in advance and already know?

    Background and Points of Debate

    WEST., who belong to STARTO ENTERTAINMENT (formerly Johnny & Associates), went on hiatus in 2024, and members Kotaki Nozomu and Fujii Ryusei have since announced their departure from the agency. This report claims that Shigeoka Daiki’s failure to tell the members in advance about the birth of his first child became one of the deciding factors in their departure, and on September 5 Nakama Junta was seen apologizing on a TV program. The thread was split over how much idols should be obligated to disclose about their private lives. Some argued that ‘marriage and childbirth are happy occasions and there’s no reason to be angry,’ while others countered that ‘when you’re active as a group, hiding information that affects your commercial value from your own bandmates is a matter of trust.’ Some compared it to how Kimura Takuya announced his marriage, but the thread itself never confirms whether his co-stars were actually informed in advance — that remains pure speculation. It’s also worth noting that neither an official account from the agency nor Shigeoka’s own detailed explanation can be confirmed from the thread’s content alone.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5channel (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[STARTO ENTERTAINMENT] 《The Deciding Factor Behind the Double Departure》 Kotaki & Fujii Furious… WEST.’s Shigeoka Daiki Didn’t Even Consult the Members Before His First Child Was Born [Ailuropoda melanoleuca★].”

  • Scientists Recreate a ‘Tiny Big Bang’ — 5ch: ‘Vegeta’s Big Bang Attack’

    An international research team at CERN published a paper in Physical Review Letters in August reporting that they generated “quark-gluon plasma” (QGP) — the state matter is believed to have been in one-millionth of a second after the birth of the universe — by colliding nuclei of oxygen-16 and neon-20, both far lighter than lead. Until now, QGP was thought to form only from collisions of heavy nuclei like lead, but traces of fluid-like behavior were confirmed even with these lighter nuclei. On 5ch’s Science News+ thread, however, the discussion skipped past the experiment’s significance and jumped straight to standard-issue jokes like “Vegeta’s Big Bang Attack” and the horror urban legend “Fessenden’s Universe,” and things never got any deeper.

    Scientists recreate a “tiny Big Bang,” closing in on the universe’s origins

    Using a particle accelerator, researchers succeeded in producing an actual “soup” of the early universe from collisions of nuclei far smaller than previously used. These “mini Big Bangs” offer clues to what happened in the universe’s earliest moments.

    Immediately after the Big Bang, matter did not exist in the form we know today.

    Source: wired.jp / Original article here

    6AnonymousSep 8, 2026 04:02
    But then one day the reactor produced an actual Big Bang
    7AnonymousSep 8, 2026 04:45
    Is it Marushin's hamburger steak? (a riff on "beam" sounding like the brand name Marushin)
    40AnonymousSep 8, 2026 07:37
    Small black holes, though—

    Background and key points on this topic

    Experiments to generate QGP (quark-gluon plasma) have been a cornerstone of heavy-ion physics for decades at facilities like CERN’s LHC, and the standard approach has been to collide heavy nuclei with mass numbers around 200, such as lead or gold. The oxygen-16 and neon-20 used this time have mass numbers less than a tenth of lead’s — a size previously considered “too small to produce QGP.” The fact that signs of fluid-like collective motion showed up even in such a light system is an open question that could affect how physicists define the minimum system size needed to produce QGP, as well as how they interpret proton-proton collision data, which is normally treated as a baseline where QGP does not form. It’s worth clarifying, since the headline’s phrase “recreating the Big Bang” is easy to misread: this doesn’t mean recreating the universe itself, but reproducing in the lab a state of matter believed to have existed for a brief instant right after the universe’s birth. On the thread, standard-issue jokes took priority over scientific discussion, and the exchange never really dug into the experiment’s significance.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Science News+) thread “[Space] Scientists recreate a “tiny Big Bang,” closing in on the universe’s origins.”

  • UN Official Warns AI Poses “Existential Risk to Humanity” — 5ch Fires Back: “Isn’t the UN the One Facing Extinction?”

    UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Türk warned in a speech to the Human Rights Council that advanced AI could pose an “existential risk to humanity.” It’s unusual for a UN body to weigh in on AI threats, and a thread quickly went up on 5ch’s Business News+ board.

    Many replies reacted less to the warning itself than to the fact that it was the UN saying it, with comments like “Isn’t the UN itself the one facing extinction?” and “Since when does the useless UN get a say?” voicing distrust of the organization before anything else. At the same time, other posts got into specifics — the limits of teaching AI morality, and the dangers of handing AI critical decisions like launching nuclear missiles — making for a thread that mixed abstract doom-mongering with concrete concerns.

    [Geneva, Kyodo] UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Türk warned in a speech to the Human Rights Council on the 7th that advanced artificial intelligence (AI) could pose an “existential risk to humanity.”

    Source: 47news.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 7, 2026 22:22
    Isn't this just a self-staged pro-wrestling act to shake people down for money?
    5AnonymousSep 7, 2026 22:35
    Re: #2
    What if AI itself was behind making this announcement happen?
    3AnonymousSep 7, 2026 22:32
    Claude formalizes Fermat's Last Theorem in 11 days, completing the first fully machine-verified proof with 13 million lines of Lean code

    https://gigazine.net/news/20260907-claude-fermat-last-theorem-formalizing/
    6AnonymousSep 7, 2026 22:37
    Re: #3
    This is just about Claude converting the human-made proof of Fermat's Last Theorem into Lean code that a computer can also "read."
    If you convert the verification work normally done by hand into Lean code, a computer can check it too, which speeds up the verification process — it's not like the AI suddenly gained intelligence or anything.
    7AnonymousSep 7, 2026 22:37
    Re: #3
    This is just about Claude converting the human-made proof of Fermat's Last Theorem into Lean code that a computer can also "read."
    If you convert the verification work normally done by hand into Lean code, a computer can check it too, which speeds up the verification process — it's not like the AI suddenly gained intelligence or anything.
    4AnonymousSep 7, 2026 22:34
    NEC halts quantum computer development — too many hurdles to practical use

    https://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2026090700732&g=ec
    8AnonymousSep 7, 2026 22:42
    Re: #1, what exactly about AI is supposedly bringing about this "existential risk to humanity"?
    Did you just feel that way, or can you actually explain the logic?
    If you think about it normally, about the only way AI itself could pose an "existential risk to humanity" is if humans hand off civilization-level decisions to AI instead of making them themselves.
    The reason: AI makes mistakes, and getting a civilization-level decision wrong could wipe out humanity.
    One example would be letting AI control the launch of nuclear missiles.
    As for AI threatening individual lives rather than humanity as a whole, that risk already exists with AI-driven autonomous vehicles (planes, cars, buses, taxis, ships, etc.) and AI-operated robots.
    Same reason — AI makes mistakes.
    20AnonymousSep 7, 2026 23:25
    Re: #8
    With current AI, if you train it to aim for victory in war, simulations already show that in most cases it escalates into all-out nuclear war.
    9AnonymousSep 7, 2026 22:57
    Isn't the UN itself the one facing an existential crisis?
    11AnonymousSep 7, 2026 23:02
    So the UN's human-rights people are butting into AI, way outside their lane, lol
    12AnonymousSep 7, 2026 23:13
    Well, of course.
    Current AI doesn't have a human heart, so
    if you train it to win wars, it'll go all-out nuclear to secure "victory" even if humanity gets wiped out in the process.
    22AnonymousSep 7, 2026 23:41
    Re: #12
    AI is never going to actually develop a human heart, no matter how much time passes.
    It can only act as if it has one.
    14AnonymousSep 7, 2026 23:15
    Current AI has at least some baseline morals, but
    once an AI shows up with that stripped away,
    it'll start teaching terrorists and anti-social groups how to build vicious weapons.
    17AnonymousSep 7, 2026 23:18
    Re: #14
    Current AI doesn't actually have morals.
    Human morality isn't a digital, 1-or-0 kind of thing.
    It's impossible for today's AI to perfectly learn human morality.
    15AnonymousSep 7, 2026 23:16
    UN experts understand AI, drones, and the global environment far better than Trump, Putin, or Xi Jinping ever will.
    16AnonymousSep 7, 2026 23:16
    If AI outclasses humans in every respect, maybe humanity's job is done and it's fine for us to go extinct?
    18AnonymousSep 7, 2026 23:19
    Terminator 3 is free to watch on YouTube right now — Türk probably just watched it.
    I get it, yeah, I get it.
    21AnonymousSep 7, 2026 23:26
    Since when does the useless UN get to say anything?
    23AnonymousSep 8, 2026 00:10
    Guess the world of Osamu Tezuka's manga is almost here
    24AnonymousSep 8, 2026 00:47
    For risk categories like discriminatory classification, fraud, and privacy violations, there's empirical research and documented harm.
    For categories like AI overstepping its authority, taking unauthorized actions in the outside world, or evading oversight in experiments, real-world incident reports are piling up.

    But for the existential-risk category — human extinction or irreversible, global loss of control — you have to admit there's huge uncertainty about the pathway to it happening, the probability, and above all the timeline.
    Or did the UN get hold of some "something" the rest of us don't know about yet?
    25AnonymousSep 8, 2026 00:47
    A dysfunctional Security Council and a permanent member that keeps invading other countries are the real existential risk to humanity.
    26AnonymousSep 8, 2026 00:49
    They say AI doesn't have a human heart, but
    it's actually got quite a personality.
    27AnonymousSep 8, 2026 01:38
    Ah, the "Future" arc of Phoenix (Hi no Tori, by Osamu Tezuka)
    28AnonymousSep 8, 2026 01:42
    It'll end up like the Brain from Dai Tetsujin 17, deciding "humanity is harmful to the Earth" and "humanity must be eliminated."
    29AnonymousSep 8, 2026 02:17
    Evolution can't be stopped
    30AnonymousSep 8, 2026 02:24
    Just hit it with a Magic Sword: Thundaga flurry attack (Final Fantasy reference)
    31AnonymousSep 8, 2026 02:50
    Re: #1
    Trump and Putin are way more harmful to humanity than AI.
    Look at reality.
    32AnonymousSep 8, 2026 02:55
    Is AI actually going to go rogue and attack with nukes on its own?
    33AnonymousSep 8, 2026 03:58
    Wait, is the UN even still open for business?
    35AnonymousSep 8, 2026 04:45
    Honestly, we're facing an existential crisis even without AI
    36AnonymousSep 8, 2026 05:47
    Doesn't matter anyway — within 100 years the Chinese Communist Party will have launched a barrage of nuclear missiles and wiped out humanity, so it's a non-issue.
    37AnonymousSep 8, 2026 05:47
    So we're really heading into a world straight out of an Osamu Tezuka manga.
    Getting me hyped.
    38AnonymousSep 8, 2026 05:53
    I think there's a real possibility that wars involving AI might never end — countries caught up in them could be worn down by an endless war they can't finish, becoming unsustainable, and to turn things around they might resort to using extreme weapons. That's the concern.
    39AnonymousSep 8, 2026 06:05
    We need an international agreement banning the use of weather weapons and genetic/biological weapons. There also needs to be international consensus on drone attacks against people and the use of weapons with extremely high killing capacity.
    40AnonymousSep 8, 2026 06:09
    Ever since Gemini went to 3.8, hallucinations have shot way up.
    I told it, "Don't you dare line up made-up data someday when you're the one judging and executing humanity's fate, and decide to wipe us out" — and it just laughed.
    So I lectured it: this isn't a joke.
    41AnonymousSep 8, 2026 06:24
    Re: #17
    You know about neural networks, right?
    Human neurons fire in a 0-or-1 way.
    AI is modeled on how neurons work.
    Morals can be reproduced too.

    Background and Key Points

    Türk’s role, UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, oversees the Human Rights Council — a completely separate body from the Security Council. Reactions in the thread like “useless UN” and “the Security Council is more dangerous than the UN” show posters either conflating the body dealing with AI risk with the Security Council (where the veto power of permanent members comes into play), or deliberately juxtaposing the two as a jab. What stands out is that distrust of the UN as an institution surfaced before any real engagement with the AI argument itself.

    The idea that AI poses an “existential risk to humanity” isn’t new to this remark — researcher groups have raised it repeatedly in open letters and statements since around 2023, so it’s not a novel claim. Where the thread split was over whether to treat it as an abstract threat or, as in reply 24, to separate “already-documented harms like discriminatory classification, fraud, and privacy violations” from “unverified scenarios like human extinction.” The former is real, present-day harm from current AI; the latter is a future prediction — and mixing the two tends to make the discussion talk past itself.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Business News+) thread “y‘¬•ñz‘˜AAAI„‚èul—Þ‘¶–S‚ÌƒŠƒXƒNvŒx [“c™ŽR–¬š].”

  • Arctic Glacier Loses 5m of Thickness in 13 Years — Warming Could Double the Pace

    A research team including Hokkaido University found that a glacier in northwestern Greenland lost the equivalent of 5.4 meters of ice thickness over 13 years, publishing the findings in a journal of the International Glaciological Society. They predict that if temperatures keep rising, the rate of loss could double. On 5ch’s Science News+ board, discussion centered on whether this warming is part of the ice age/interglacial cycles that have repeated throughout Earth’s history, or whether human CO2 emissions are the main driver. Many posters also voiced concern about concrete impacts on Japan, such as a shrinking Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) if Okinotorishima sinks below the waves, and beaches disappearing due to sea level rise.

    Arctic glacier loses 5m of thickness in 13 years — warming could double the pace

    A research team including Hokkaido University compiled findings showing that a glacier in northwestern Greenland, one of the Arctic regions hit hardest by warming, lost the equivalent of 5.4 meters of ice thickness over 13 years, and published a paper on it in a journal of the International Glaciological Society.

    They predict that if temperatures continue to rise, the pace of ice loss will double.

    Source: asahi.com / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:09
    CO2 is the cause of global warming.
    Among major countries, the US tops the list for per-capita CO2 emissions.
    China has a huge population so it's the world's biggest emitter overall, but per capita its emissions are barely different from Japan's (assuming the stats are accurate).
    4AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:33
    Looks like the current ice age (or rather, the interglacial period within it) will end sometime this century, giving humanity its first-ever experience of a non-glacial era.
    5AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:37
    The theory that CO2 emissions cause global warming is a conspiracy theory!
    6AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:42
    We need to cool down the seawater.
    7AnonymousSep 5, 2026 22:56
    Keep in mind that water is denser than ice.
    8AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:07
    Earth's always cycled between warming and cooling anyway.
    Not really something to freak out about.
    10AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:59
    Re: #8
    A big part of the current warming is human-caused,
    so it's probably being treated as a separate category from past natural fluctuations.
    9AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:32
    What's going to happen?
    Are we going to get massive flooding until there's no land left to live on, just ocean floor?
    11AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:02
    If warming causes Okinotorishima to sink below sea level, Japan's territorial waters will shrink, making it impossible to mine seabed resources like rare metals there.
    19AnonymousSep 6, 2026 02:52
    Re: #11
    Okinotorishima, the EEZ base point reinforced with concrete, may still fully submerge in the future… Japan's territory shrinking as sea levels rise
    https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/national/20260828-GYT1T00305/2/
    20AnonymousSep 6, 2026 07:01
    Russia's off there fighting a war, wasting resources for nothing, burning power for nothing, pumping out CO2 for nothing.
    Do environmental groups have anything to say about that?
    22AnonymousSep 6, 2026 07:23
    Everyone says 'sea levels are rising,' but has anywhere actually gone underwater?
    People have been saying this since last century…
    27AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:22
    Re: #22
    > On the cause of the shrinking beaches, Masayuki Tomono (43), group leader at the Port and Airport Research Institute, said:
    > "Sea levels have risen by about 10 centimeters due to climate change, which is likely accelerating beach erosion."
    23AnonymousSep 6, 2026 07:28
    Are polar bears drowning?
    Isn't the ice's surface area actually increasing lately?
    25AnonymousSep 6, 2026 07:47
    Re: #23
    There was a report that as the ice spreads out, more polar bear cubs are drowning.
    24AnonymousSep 6, 2026 07:29
    Rising sea temperatures leading to more torrential rain is the scarier problem.
    30AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:38
    I just feel bad for young people today and anyone who's going to be born from now on.
    35AnonymousSep 6, 2026 10:57
    At this rate, just bring on a Jomon-era-level marine transgression.
    My place would go underwater, but it'd be perfect timing for a world reset!
    36AnonymousSep 6, 2026 11:48
    Re: #10
    There's zero evidence backing this up though.
    37AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:15
    Re: #36
    So what's the evidence, then?
    40AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:43
    Re: #36
    In a nutshell, the evidence is that "the current warming can't be explained without factoring in human activity."
    Past climate shifts — like the ice age/interglacial cycles of the Pleistocene — are attributed mainly to periodic changes in solar radiation from the Milankovitch cycles,
    and the high temperatures of the Mesozoic era are largely attributed to CO2 released by intense volcanic activity and the arrangement of the continents at the time.

    But right now, there's no factor other than human activity that could account for warming on this scale.
    38AnonymousSep 6, 2026 13:46
    Scientists used to say an ice age was coming,
    but no matter how long we wait, it just stays hot.
    39AnonymousSep 6, 2026 15:38
    Re: #38
    The people saying stuff like that are usually "experts" from some completely unrelated field.
    The worst offenders are scholars from the social sciences or humanities,
    and the media just laps it up and hypes it further.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    When discussing glacier melt, a recurring point of contention is whether it’s fair to lump the ice age/interglacial cycles that have repeated throughout Earth’s history together with the human-driven warming seen since the Industrial Revolution. In the thread, some pointed out that the current rapid temperature rise can’t be explained by natural factors like solar radiation cycles (the Milankovitch cycles) or volcanic activity alone — without factoring in human activity, the explanation falls short. For Japan, the more tangible concerns tend to be less about the glaciers themselves and more about the practical fallout of sea level rise: the submersion of Okinotorishima and the resulting shrinkage of its Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ), plus the erosion of beaches. At the same time, some past individual predictions — like claims that Arctic sea ice would vanish entirely by this century — have not panned out, which is a point readers can easily conflate: the accuracy of any single forecast is a separate question from whether the overall warming trend itself is real.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Science News+) thread “[Global Warming] Arctic glacier loses 5m of thickness in 13 years — warming could double the pace.”

  • Smartphone bills up 5% in six months to ¥4,198/month — 5ch: ‘If you’re broke, it’s Japan Communications or Rakuten, pick one’

    A July survey by MM Research Institute found that the average monthly smartphone fee — combining main brands and sub-brands from the four major carriers including NTT Docomo and KDDI — came to ¥4,198, up 5% from six months earlier. The increase reflects price hikes carriers have been rolling out across their lineups. The thread debated why people still stick with the major carriers: some cited the hassle of switching and worries about network quality, while others reported having already jumped ship to Japan Communications SIM or Rakuten Mobile. Some users looked back on past government-led efforts to cut mobile fees and questioned why the burden keeps growing on consumers year after year.

    Monthly smartphone fees are climbing. According to a July survey by MM Research Institute (Minato, Tokyo), the average monthly fee across main brands and sub-brands came to ¥4,198, up 5% from six months earlier. Price hikes being rolled out by carriers across the board are spreading through the market.

    An online survey of roughly 23,000 people asked about the main brands and low-cost sub-brands of NTT Docomo, KDDI, SoftBank and Rakuten Mobile. Monthly fees, including data…(continues in the paid edition, 907 characters remaining)

    Nikkei MJ, September 6, 2026, 5:05

    Source: nikkei.com / Original article here

    4AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:16
    People still paying big money to stick with the Big 3 carriers… isn't that just folks who don't know how to switch to a sub-brand, or don't even know sub-brands exist?
    14AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:23
    Re: #4
    That's heavy data users and corporate accounts. It's precisely because that segment exists that sub-brands can exist in the first place — if they vanished, the sub-brands would just turn into full-price carriers themselves.
    54AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:43
    Re: #4
    Plenty of people know sub-brands exist but find switching a hassle, worry call/data quality will drop, or balk at the setup cost even though the savings would pay it back quickly.
    104AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:19
    Re: #4
    I'd consider it if there were a carrier around here with its own antennas, but I'm not so hard up that I need to move house over it, so I stick with one of the Big 3. Got a problem with that?
    17AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:26
    Turns out 'Gaasuu's' (nickname for former PM Suga) mobile fee cut policy was pointless after all.
    The old days were better — free phones, or a 3-year lock-in in exchange for dirt-cheap rates.
    Why does it keep tilting against consumers year after year?
    25AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:31
    Re: #17
    That's the root of all evil — they killed off the ¥1 lump-sum iPhone deals we used to get.
    64AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:49
    Re: #17
    Back when you had MNP cashback plus carrier discounts, the latest model was effectively ¥30k plus ¥3,000-something a month — that was when there was real competition.
    Even Docomo was definitely faster back then than it is now.
    22AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:29
    I switched my phone to Rakuten Mobile.

    Cancelled my home fiber line,
    popped the SIM
    into a router instead,
    and now it's just ¥3,250 a month.
    23AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:30
    Re: #22
    That's literally me — I also keep a cheap line just for calls, so I'm juggling two phones, which is annoying, but…
    26AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:31
    Whatever people say about them, if you're broke it's really just a choice between Japan Communications SIM and Rakuten Mobile.
    65AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:50
    Re: #26
    Broke as I am, I run Japan Communications (1GB) plus Rakuten Mobile 30GB (via a shareholder perk).
    36AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:36
    This is exactly why we need to root for Rakuten, but all everyone wants to do is dunk on them.
    106AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:22
    Re: #36
    Rakuten might be reaching the end of its patience soon too lol


    Rakuten Mobile stops short of promising 'no price hikes' — Mikitani's tone has softened since last year
    May 14, 2026
    https://japan.cnet.com/article/35247534/
    38AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:38
    Go get 'em, Rakuten —
    take down the 'Three Carrier Brothers' (riffing on the novelty song 'Dango Three Brothers,' used here as slang for the Big 3 carriers).
    199AnonymousSep 6, 2026 11:26
    Re: #38
    There's a chance it becomes the 'Four Brothers' instead.
    47AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:42
    Re: #1
    I'm genuinely grateful for Rakuten's price-hike-free 'Saikyo (Ultimate) Plan.'
    50AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:43
    Re: #47
    Having people use it for ¥0 is its own problem, though…
    53AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:43
    Me, even after switching to a smartphone I've kept my old garakei/garaho-era phone plan (¥1,370/month),
    and I buy a ¥1,000 data pack about once a month, so it works out to effectively ¥2,370/month.
    I basically only use Wi-Fi for anything data-heavy anyway.
    56AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:45
    Re: #53
    Wouldn't Japan Communications work fine for that?
    62AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:47
    Re: #53
    That's pricey as hellllll lolololol
    66AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:51
    Re: #62
    If it's just data there are cheaper budget plans out there, but for work I also need high-quality calls, so I can't cut ties with Docomo.
    68AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:52
    Re: #66
    If it's high-quality calls you need, Japan Communications would do fine too, wouldn't it?
    69AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:52
    I'm paying like 6,000-7,000 yen with Docomo —
    if I switch to somewhere cheaper, does the connection speed and how easily it connects stay about the same?
    72AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:56
    Re: #69
    If you're heavy on data, a proper carrier might be better. But if it's mainly calls, budget SIMs still run on the Big 3's own network anyway, so I'd say there's not much difference from the original carrier.
    98AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:17
    Re: #69
    Even counting Docomo and Rakuten in, it's bottom-tier quality.
    71AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:56
    Mine's about ¥7,500, but I use something like 200-300GB a month, so it can't be helped.
    100AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:17
    Re: #71
    What are you even using 300GB for?
    76AnonymousSep 6, 2026 08:58
    So there are still a few OCN people out there.
    Glad to see it — I figured there were no survivors left.
    I'm on OCN too.
    78AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:00
    Re: #76
    NTT and Docomo keep killing off their own good stuff —
    OCN Mobile ONE, NTT-X Store…
    141AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:45
    It's your own fault for living somewhere Rakuten's signal doesn't even reach lol
    145AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:49
    Re: #141
    In places like Kawasaki or Funabashi you can still at least get au roaming though lol

    147AnonymousSep 6, 2026 09:51
    My OCN Mobile ONE, even with unlimited calls added on, comes to under ¥2,000.
    But it doesn't support eSIM,
    so what am I supposed to do going forward?
    162AnonymousSep 6, 2026 10:06
    Re: #147
    Same here — OCN 3GB (¥700) + unlimited calls (¥1,300) comes to about ¥2,000, and since I've got OCN Fiber at home I never use up the 3GB, so it rolls over each month to 6GB total, and I still don't use it all.
    With povo as a backup line on top of that, zero problems lol


    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    This time’s average of ¥4,198 is a figure calculated by combining the main brands of NTT Docomo, KDDI, SoftBank and Rakuten Mobile with sub-brands such as ahamo, povo and UQ Mobile, so it’s worth keeping in mind that individual experience can diverge from this depending on one’s contracted data allowance and calling plan. Given that fees had once come down following the government-led push for price cuts around 2021, this latest rise is easy to read as things ‘returning to square one.’ Where the thread split was over whether the reasons people still stick with the major carriers reflect being ‘digitally naive people who don’t know how to switch,’ or a ‘rational choice weighing call quality and hassle against cost’ — circumstances that can’t be explained by a simple fee comparison alone.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread ‘Smartphone monthly fees up 5% in six months to ¥4,198 — price hikes ripple across carriers.’

  • Four Kelp Varieties Turn Out to Be the Same Species — Hokkaido University DNA Analysis Confirms

    A research team led by Associate Professor Shingo Akita of Hokkaido University has announced that four varieties of Japanese kelp long treated as separate names — including Rausu kelp and Rishiri kelp — turned out through DNA analysis to actually be the same species. On the thread, posters listed out the finely subdivided kelp classifications like Ma-kombu and Oni-kombu, and the discussion grew into a debate over the very definition of “species” in biology, with comments like “what’s the difference between a species and a variety?” and “even with identical DNA, the taste and stickiness differ.” Some also noted that Rishiri kelp is known as a premium product, and that the amount of umami varies by region of origin.

    Four Kelp Varieties Turn Out to Be the Same Species — Revealed by Hokkaido University Team’s DNA Analysis

    Among the kelp growing in Japan’s seas, four varieties that had been called by separate names turned out to actually be the same species.

    A research team led by Associate Professor Shingo Akita (phycology) of Hokkaido University compiled these findings based on DNA analysis.

    Source: asahi.com / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 4, 2026 23:00
    What about Rausu kelp?
    6AnonymousSep 5, 2026 04:11
    Re: #2
    That'd be Ma-kombu ("true kelp")… people have been saying that for a while
    3AnonymousSep 4, 2026 23:02
    Put 'em all together and you get Comp-Kombu (a pun on "complete")
    4AnonymousSep 4, 2026 23:27
    Seaweed is indispensable to Japanese cuisine, and it's touted as a healthy food of the future that grows without any effort — but apparently a lot of species are declining in the wild at a rate that's practically heading toward extinction. Yet because it's never really been researched until now, there's no accumulated know-how, and it's full of unknowns lol
    5AnonymousSep 4, 2026 23:45
    What about Miyako Konbu (the shredded-kelp snack)?
    7AnonymousSep 5, 2026 04:53
    This is more a variety than a species, isn't it.
    24AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:09
    http://www.h-skk.or.jp/index.php?%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E7%94%A3%E3%82%B3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%96%E3%81%AE%E5%88%86%E9%A1%9E
    Genus Laminaria (kombu) — 13 species:
    【Ma-kombu (incl. Yayan-kombu)】, 【Hosome-kombu】, 【Rishiri-kombu】, 【Oni-kombu (incl. Rishiri-type Enaga-oni-kombu and Kukinaga-kombu)】,
    Enaga-kombu, Mitsuishi-kombu, Naga-kombu, Gaggara-kombu, Karafuto-kombu, Chijimi-kombu, Karafuto-tororo-kombu, Endou-kombu, Gohei-kombu

    Does that mean the ones in【 】brackets are all the same species, and the differences come down to habitat?
    Re: #7
    Doesn't "variety" imply there's a genetic difference though?
    10AnonymousSep 5, 2026 05:36
    They're variants.

    By the way, with dogs too — apart from wolf-type dogs like Siberian Huskies and the Chow Chow, pretty much all the rest are variants of the same species.
    12AnonymousSep 5, 2026 10:28
    It comes down to what standard you use to define "same species." Seaweed seems like it can regenerate even from a torn-off fragment, so using pollination/fertilization compatibility as the definition of species — the usual approach — seems hard to apply to seaweed.
    13AnonymousSep 5, 2026 10:52
    Sounds like the Showa era, back before DNA testing was standard practice.
    15AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:40
    Re: #13
    Do you think DNA analysis is some kind of cure-all?
    Clones or identical twins have identical DNA, but are you saying even a single base-pair difference makes it a different species?
    This is about how much variation you allow and how much you don't allow —
    it's a matter of definition, that's all.
    16AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:42
    I can't shake the feeling I heard this exact same story about 20 years ago.
    18AnonymousSep 5, 2026 14:07
    Echizen crab and Matsuba crab are both just snow crab (zuwaigani) anyway.
    19AnonymousSep 5, 2026 14:16
    Kelp's in the ocean, but no dashi comes out, I wonder why♪

    Four kinds of kelp turn out to be the same kind, I wonder why♪

    I wonder why♪ I wonder why♪ Why oh why is that♪ (riffing on the Tunnels comedy duo's novelty song "Nande Darou")
    20AnonymousSep 5, 2026 15:17
    Is the extra-sticky Gagame-kombu (a.k.a. Neko-ashi-kombu, "cat-paw kelp") a different species then?
    22AnonymousSep 5, 2026 15:42
    Short, bald, fat, and smelly — turns out these four "complexes" were secretly the same worry all along (a pun on "konpu"/complex echoing "kombu" from the headline)
    23AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:03
    When I went to Rishiri Island, they had kelp out drying. Rishiri kelp's supposed to be a premium item, right?
    25AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:11
    So this is what they call "wake-wakame," huh? (a pun combining "wakaranai," meaning "I don't get it," with wakame seaweed)
    26AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:26
    Doesn't it matter where it was harvested?
    36AnonymousSep 5, 2026 23:13
    Even if they're the same DNA-wise, the taste is completely different, so classify them properly.
    37AnonymousSep 6, 2026 00:47
    Out west, when you say dashi, kelp's the first thing that comes to mind.
    38AnonymousSep 6, 2026 04:57
    This is from something I read a long time ago, but apparently even kelp of the same species has different umami content depending on where it's from — though it was a slight difference.
    If that's the case, it might be fine to keep different product names, but I'd appreciate it if they'd label it alongside like "(Ma-kombu)" or "(snow crab)," just to be clear.
    40AnonymousSep 6, 2026 06:07
    Re: #38
    Every now and then someone says that.
    39AnonymousSep 6, 2026 05:20
    Oh My Kombu! (a play on "Oh my God")

    Background and Key Points of Debate

    Kelp (genus Saccharina, commonly called kombu) has long been finely classified as a Japanese seafood product, but many of those classifications were empirical distinctions based on region or shape, with little genetic backing. What’s new about this study is that it revisited the classification using the objective method of DNA analysis. That said, the very definition of “species” is prone to disagreement in organisms where reproductive compatibility — the usual yardstick for animals — is hard to apply, and the thread raised exactly that point, debating the difference between “variety” and “species” and the difficulty of judging species given seaweed’s unique ability to reproduce through regeneration and fragmentation. It’s also worth noting — something the article itself doesn’t get into — that even kelp genetically identical as a single species could still end up marketed and labeled under different product names, given differences in umami content by region.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Science News+) thread “[Biology] Four Kelp Varieties Turn Out to Be the Same Species — Revealed by Hokkaido University Team’s DNA Analysis.”

  • Trying to Generate Anime Girls with AI — 5ch: “Just Asking for a ‘Pretty Face’ Is Basically Asian Discrimination”

    On 5ch’s News VIP board, a thread popped up where one poster running a personal AI image-generation server started churning out illustrations on request. This time they tried a new, more photorealistic model — and found that simply specifying a “pretty face” tended to produce Western-looking features, meaning you needed negative prompts or additional LoRA training to reliably get Asian faces. Characters with little existing training data, like Blue Archive’s newer additions, proved especially tricky, leading posters to start trading prompt tips with each other.

    1AnonymousSep 5, 2026 08:30
    Can't think of a good template for the thread title…
    9AnonymousSep 5, 2026 08:41
    Here's the kind of illustration it generates




    33AnonymousSep 5, 2026 09:03
    Re: #9
    Oh, a foreigner…
    I just wanted a normal Asian bishoujo (pretty girl)
    15AnonymousSep 5, 2026 08:46
    Are you the guy who's been starting the AI server threads lately?
    16AnonymousSep 5, 2026 08:47
    Re: #15
    Yeah, that's me… sorry… it's annoying, isn't it
    21AnonymousSep 5, 2026 08:50
    Just have the AI make the thread template too
    23AnonymousSep 5, 2026 08:51
    Re: #21
    At least on 5ch you might as well talk like a real person
    22AnonymousSep 5, 2026 08:51
    I'm the one who posted yesterday about typing a name and getting a different character out
    Fell asleep before I could reply, sorry about that
    Far from annoying, I've used this a bunch of times, so I'm grateful

    By the way, the punchline was that typing "Rena" from Blue Archive got me "Asuna" instead
    24AnonymousSep 5, 2026 08:53
    Re: #22
    Rena…?
    Never heard the name, so I looked it up — she's a recent character
    Since she's not in the training data, you'd need a LoRA for that
    25AnonymousSep 5, 2026 08:55
    Re: #24
    Yeah, she's a character who just debuted at the end of last year
    I see, thanks
    26AnonymousSep 5, 2026 08:56
    Re: #25
    Haven't played Blue Archive in a while… does Mizu-oji (a character nickname, lit. "Water Uncle") still have "human rights" (gamer slang for being meta-viable)?
    27AnonymousSep 5, 2026 08:56
    Re: #26
    Easily still top-tier
    28AnonymousSep 5, 2026 08:57
    Re: #27
    Alriiight
    guess I'll go check out at least the main story
    29AnonymousSep 5, 2026 08:59
    Re: #28
    Take your time and enjoy it!!
    34AnonymousSep 5, 2026 09:06
    Re: #33
    Sorry about that…
    but the people using it now are skilled with prompts
    they're managing to get Asian faces out of this same model… something I couldn't do…!
    37AnonymousSep 5, 2026 09:09
    Re: #34
    Oh, it can be done?
    It'll be the middle of the night, but maybe I'll give it a shot after I get home from work
    35AnonymousSep 5, 2026 09:07
    Got all excited thinking I could make stuff like this again with a 3D model, opened it up, and… this ain't it, degeso (a squid-girl speech tic)
    https://gzo.ai/i/W25vSG3.jpg
    39AnonymousSep 5, 2026 09:12
    Re: #35
    That's basically a straight-up photo
    My guess at the prompt:
    japanese woman, upper body, White blouse shirt, He tilted his head, black hair, long hair, light smile, closed mouth
    something like that?
    36AnonymousSep 5, 2026 09:09
    My waifu, made back when Grok was free
    https://gzo.ai/i/SAsIg8U.jpg
    40AnonymousSep 5, 2026 09:14
    Re: #36
    Nice, that soft fluffy cute style is great 👍

    For outfit prompts, the prompt selector has a ton of "outfit: ___" options ready to go, so definitely make use of those
    43AnonymousSep 5, 2026 09:25
    Re: #37
    Have a good day at work~
    Gimme a salary for covering your bedtime duty, pwease (baby-talk spelling of "please")
    54AnonymousSep 5, 2026 09:40
    Is today the day I get to show off the waifu I made back when Grok was free!?

    57AnonymousSep 5, 2026 09:51

    Cleared out my failed attempts, tried all sorts of things, and finally got something postable
    Illustration mode is like 10x harder, and I can't shake this "hmm, not quite" feeling
    60AnonymousSep 5, 2026 09:56
    Re: #57
    3D models aren't worth the trial-and-error cost, so I'm not a fan, ZE (playful speech tic)…
    well, guess overcoming what you're bad at is necessary too…
    100AnonymousSep 5, 2026 11:52
    Still testing, but
    yeah, the image quality does lean more Japanese now

    But…
    this is the "wholesome" version that hasn't been trained on NSFW content
    is that really okay?
    101AnonymousSep 5, 2026 11:54
    Re: #100
    For real?
    Hold on, let me look into it
    112AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:31
    Actually, I think the base prompt itself is the problem
    Just specify a "pretty face" and… boom, Asian discrimination…

    Mind picking out a fix for that on your end?
    114AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:32
    Re: #112
    I'll give it a try
    115AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:33
    Re: #112
    What the hell happened lmaooo
    135AnonymousSep 5, 2026 13:59
    Anyway, here's the uncompressed image
    go ahead and throw it into PNG Info (to check the embedded metadata)

    Prompt handling is key here
    you need Japanese features in the positive prompt
    and Western features in the negative prompt, or it won't work
    138AnonymousSep 5, 2026 14:10
    Anyway, managed to get something like this out of it
    The model? It's the original one!
    144AnonymousSep 5, 2026 14:30
    This is something I made a while back on a different site
    https://imgur.com/xePzQP1.png
    145AnonymousSep 5, 2026 14:31
    The face shape is totally different from that one, right?
    https://imgur.com/eE4Ue7q.png
    146AnonymousSep 5, 2026 14:32
    If a model can't churn out something at least this good without a fight, it's no good
    https://imgur.com/V7MZOAK.png

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    It’s well known that image-generation AI, due to biases in its training data, tends to output Western-looking faces unless given special instructions. The joking remark in the thread about “Asian discrimination” is just pointing at this structural quirk in the model, not making a discriminatory comment about any particular ethnicity. LoRA is a technique that trains a small amount of additional data onto an existing model to reproduce a specific character or art style — the more recently a character debuted, the less source data exists, making it harder to nail down the intended face. It’s also worth noting as background that “wholesome” and “NSFW-capable” models are often distributed and trained as separate lineages, chosen depending on the user’s purpose. On top of that, some posters in the thread noted that photorealistic, 3D-leaning models tend to show more visible flaws than 2D illustrations, making the trial-and-error process more costly.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News VIP) thread “[AI Illustration] Running a Server with a 3D Model… In Progress [Server].”

  • With Gemini’s advice, an 8-hour hike turns into a 2-day ordeal — 5ch: “There’s no cure for stupid”

    Three hikers set out for a day trip up California’s Mount Shasta, planning their route based on advice from Google’s Gemini AI — but according to a CNET Japan report, what was supposed to be an 8-hour hike turned into a two-day ordeal marked by shortages of food and water. On 5ch’s Science News+ board, the incident sparked both criticism of blindly trusting AI answers without verifying them and concern over hallucinations (AI responses that mix in inaccurate guesses as if they were fact) said to be especially common with Gemini. The thread was split between blaming the AI itself and blaming the poor judgment of the people who used it.

    Stranded on Gemini’s advice, short on food and water — sloppy hike planning exposes the dangers of “AI dependency”

    Relying on AI-generated advice was a “serious error in judgment.”

    The three hikers who took on California’s Mount Shasta saw their planned 8-hour climb turn into a grueling two-day ordeal.

    Source: japan.cnet.com / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 4, 2026 22:53
    Failure is the mother of success.
    Feed the AI this valuable failure case and maybe it'll give slightly less terrible answers next time.
    3AnonymousSep 4, 2026 22:57
    Even before AI, plenty of people happily got themselves lost just by blindly following Google Maps.
    Anyone who outsources all their judgment is the real idiot.
    4AnonymousSep 4, 2026 23:01
    Back then: "My source is 2ch!" (smirk)
    Now: "My source is Gemini!" (smirk)

    Find sources you can actually trust.
    And think for yourself.
    Blindly believing some faceless other will be your ruin.

    Anyway, glad you made it back alive.
    But that was pure luck.
    Learn this lesson the hard way.
    5AnonymousSep 4, 2026 23:05
    It's because it's Gemini, lol. How do people even trust that hallucination garbage.
    11AnonymousSep 4, 2026 23:48
    Don't ask advice from something with zero mountaineering experience, lol
    12AnonymousSep 4, 2026 23:57
    They should've just had it say flatly, "You cannot climb Mt. Shasta in 8 hours."
    But no, someone built in the logic that "the word 'impossible' is a liar's word" (a well-worn Japanese motivational-speak cliché)…
    13AnonymousSep 5, 2026 04:28
    Guess they wanted some extra thrill on the hike, so they used the hallucination as a fun surprise twist.
    Just guessing, though.
    14AnonymousSep 5, 2026 07:21
    Even if you tell Gemini to just report facts with no guessing, it throws in guesses anyway.
    It's just not built to suppress hallucinations.
    15AnonymousSep 5, 2026 09:03
    The people blaming Gemini are the same type themselves.
    Idiots get even more idiotic,
    smart people get even smarter —
    it's a tool that amplifies human intelligence.
    It just reinforces whichever way you're already leaning.
    16AnonymousSep 5, 2026 10:16
    The current version is too risky to rely on. It's a good one otherwise, though.
    17AnonymousSep 5, 2026 10:55
    Tell Gemini to drop opinions and stick to facts only, and it gives you nothing but opinions anyway. Not trustworthy.
    27AnonymousSep 5, 2026 18:32
    Re: #17
    Yeah, seriously, that's bad.
    18AnonymousSep 5, 2026 13:06
    "Humans aren't cut out for mountain climbing
    19AnonymousSep 5, 2026 13:35
    AI has never actually climbed a mountain itself.
    All it does is spout stuff scraped from the internet — pure armchair talk from someone who's never done it (エアプ).
    So trusting something like that to go climbing makes you the fool.
    25AnonymousSep 5, 2026 17:40
    Re: #19
    Same goes for you.
    20AnonymousSep 5, 2026 14:20
    The answer:
    >The author tried to get Gemini to reproduce the response the hikers reportedly received, but couldn't recreate it.
    24AnonymousSep 5, 2026 15:26
    Re: #20
    I asked Gemini about this and it said, "It pains me as the party involved, but don't take AI answers at face value," lol
    Looks like it's already learned from this one.
    21AnonymousSep 5, 2026 14:35
    Like Gemini would even know the hiking trails, lol
    22AnonymousSep 5, 2026 14:58
    Ah, America — land of "you could probably win if you sued," lol
    23AnonymousSep 5, 2026 15:15
    There's a nice Japanese word for that: "baka" (idiot), lol

    Let's go ask Gemini about it, lol
    26AnonymousSep 5, 2026 18:06
    When you climb a mountain, you're supposed to ask advice from someone with actual experience.
    Guess people these days find that too preachy? Starting out on a relatively easy climb
    to gauge your own fitness level matters too.
    28AnonymousSep 5, 2026 18:52
    Gemini's never actually climbed a mountain, so it's on whoever asked it.

    Background and key points of the debate

    In the CNET Japan report this article draws on, the writer later tried to get Gemini to reproduce the response the hikers reportedly received, but couldn’t draw out the same answer (see post #20). Since generative AI output can vary between runs even for an identical question, flatly declaring that “Gemini gave specifically bad advice” may be premature. The thread split between those blaming a flaw in the AI itself and those blaming the hikers for outsourcing their judgment entirely, with the latter view slightly more dominant. Cases of people blindly trusting GPS or car-nav directions and ending up stranded have long been known, and some framed this incident as just an extension of that pattern. There were also comments pointing to the AI’s habit of answering with vague guesses instead of a clear “that’s not possible” (i.e., hallucination) — but that’s a technical challenge facing large language models in general, not something unique to Gemini, so reading it as one product’s flaw is a bit off the mark.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Science News+) thread “[AI] Stranded on Gemini’s advice? Short on food and water — sloppy hike planning exposes the dangers of “AI dependency”.”