Category: Sports

  • Struggling Kubo Takefusa left out of the squad for the first time this season — 5ch: ‘Total victory for the Kubo-hating “Plala guy”‘ (a notorious anti-Kubo poster nicknamed after the Plala internet provider he posts from)

    In Matchday 4 of La Liga on September 7 local time, Real Sociedad beat Elche away 3-2 despite having a man sent off. Kubo Takefusa was left out of the squad entirely for the first time this season, and Kenyan international Oyie Otieno, who took his place on the right flank, scored his first-ever La Liga goal. On 5ch, posters pointed to the stats showing Sociedad have actually done better with Kubo on the bench, alongside technical critiques that his dribbling isn’t translating into goals — opinions split over what’s behind his slump and where he might transfer next.

    Sociedad took the lead in the 11th minute

    In La Liga’s Matchday 4 clash held on September 7 local time, Real Sociedad, featuring Kubo Takefusa, played away against Elche.

    With the out-of-form Kubo dropped from the starting lineup for the first time in two matches, Sociedad struck in the 11th minute — Otieno crashed home a powerful shot from a corner-kick sequence to open the scoring. The Kenyan international attacker, deputizing for the Japan international on the right side, delivered by netting his first La Liga goal.

    Source: soccerdigestweb.com / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 9, 2026 06:41
    Real Sociedad
    With Kubo starting: 0W-1D-2L, 1 point from 3 games
    With Kubo on the bench: 2W-0D-0L, 6 points from 2 games

    Kubo: 0 goals, 0 assists in 4 games
    8AnonymousSep 9, 2026 06:46
    Re: #2
    Re: #7
    They bring in reinforcements and suddenly Kubo's benched, forsooth
    22AnonymousSep 9, 2026 06:53
    Re: #2
    Big win for the Kubo-hating 'Plala guy'
    3AnonymousSep 9, 2026 06:42
    ~The End~ (old-school 2ch-style sign-off)
    Time to fade away into the J.League
    5AnonymousSep 9, 2026 06:43
    Forget the Premier League move the obsessive fanboys dream about — even staying at Sociedad looks shaky now
    In 2-3 years he'll probably get sold off to the Segunda Division or somewhere in Portugal
    6AnonymousSep 9, 2026 06:43
    It's about time he went back to J3 and learned his place
    7AnonymousSep 9, 2026 06:44
    Sociedad captain Oyarzabal on Kubo Takefusa's 'reinforcements needed' comment: 'Everyone knows what Take's [Kubo's nickname] personality is like. Either way, we should be focusing on the matches.'
    9AnonymousSep 9, 2026 06:46
    Wild, right?
    Even when he doesn't play at all, he still makes sports news lol
    10AnonymousSep 9, 2026 06:47
    If they bring in more reinforcements, won't Kubo get even less playing time?
    12AnonymousSep 9, 2026 06:48
    Kubo Takefusa, who asked Real Sociedad for reinforcements: 'I already apologized to everyone. But it'd be a waste not to say what needs saying.'
    13AnonymousSep 9, 2026 06:49
    Who was it that said the World Cup squad four years from now would basically be the same lineup because no new players are coming through?
    15AnonymousSep 9, 2026 06:51
    He couldn't deliver at the World Cup either — just not his year
    17AnonymousSep 9, 2026 06:52
    Guess he's the second-generation QBK guy lol (QBK: a famous 2006 meme mocking a player's excuse for fluffing an easy chance — 'the ball suddenly came at me')
    18AnonymousSep 9, 2026 06:52
    Honestly, didn't expect him to plateau like this
    He's only good when the ball's at his feet — his off-the-ball movement and positioning are so bad he never gets those easy tap-in goals
    And he still hasn't kicked the habit of throwing up his hands and coasting ┐(´д`)┌ after losing the ball
    23AnonymousSep 9, 2026 06:54
    Could this be some lingering effect from his World Cup injury?
    26AnonymousSep 9, 2026 06:56
    Re: #23
    That's probably part of it, but ever since Silva retired, his numbers have been dropping every year instead of improving, so it's no surprise the Sociedad brass have started souring on him
    24AnonymousSep 9, 2026 06:54
    Once you strip away the inflated hype, well, yeah
    25AnonymousSep 9, 2026 06:56
    I do think he's good on the ball though
    What's actually different between him and similar-type players on the Spain national team?
    54AnonymousSep 9, 2026 07:09
    Re: #25
    In Kubo's case, the ball just doesn't go forward
    68AnonymousSep 9, 2026 07:17
    Re: #25
    He just dribbles around in circles
    and while he's doing that the opposing defense gets time to reset, killing the chance
    Even in situations where all he has to do is smash it into the net, he sends it into orbit — they'd be better off using someone else
    27AnonymousSep 9, 2026 06:57
    He's turning into soccer's answer to Kou Neo — all hype, no payoff (Neo: a Japanese baseball prospect hyped as a generational talent who never lived up to it)
    34AnonymousSep 9, 2026 06:59
    No need to worry, Barcelona's already got the next Kubo

    I think he's about 10 years old now
    44AnonymousSep 9, 2026 07:05
    No way a big club takes him when he hasn't delivered results
    75AnonymousSep 9, 2026 07:20
    Re: #44
    I think there was a chance if the transfer fee were cheap enough
    If his contract hadn't been extended, a move might've happened last summer with two years left on it
    There was probably a mix of factors — loyalty to Sociedad, wanting to keep his starting spot, and so on —
    but the biggest snag is that buy-back clause tying him to Madrid
    Madrid's right wing has been open for years and they show zero sign of bringing him back
    but since they'd take half the fee, Sociedad can't sell him cheap either
    45AnonymousSep 9, 2026 07:05
    Hurry up and go to Barcelona already
    Sociedad's beneath Take
    48AnonymousSep 9, 2026 07:06
    Wouldn't a transfer actually be a good thing for him?
    58AnonymousSep 9, 2026 07:10
    Re: #48
    Where do you think he'd actually end up?
    The gap between realistic, non-fantasy offers
    and the leagues/clubs Kubo actually wants
    has gotten enormous
    70AnonymousSep 9, 2026 07:18
    They rotated the squad so hard they nearly lost lol
    74AnonymousSep 9, 2026 07:20
    Re: #70
    Honestly, I'd already braced for a comeback loss
    73AnonymousSep 9, 2026 07:19
    Never even heard of Elche
    78AnonymousSep 9, 2026 07:21
    Re: #73
    Elche already looks like a runaway favorite for dead last, the clear top relegation candidate
    so why was Sociedad rotating against them?
    79AnonymousSep 9, 2026 07:22
    Re: #75
    He let it slip that multiple offers came in before the season started
    84AnonymousSep 9, 2026 07:24
    Re: #79
    What's the point of offers that never actually go through?

    Background and key points of this discussion

    Kubo Takefusa joined Sociedad on a permanent transfer from Real Madrid in 2023 and has been a regular starter ever since, but this season he’s gone without a goal or assist so far. The ‘reinforcements needed’ comment referenced in the thread refers to an incident this summer where Kubo publicly called on the club to strengthen the squad, prompting captain Oyarzabal to fire back with a pointed remark that ‘everyone knows what Take’s personality is like.’ Because of this backstory, the comments in the thread mix in more than pure performance criticism — some posters push back against his transfer ambitions, even calling him a ‘traitor.’ On the transfer front, some point out that his contract with Real Madrid includes a buy-back clause, which makes an easy departure difficult. Whether his absence from the squad stems from World Cup fatigue or injury, or purely from a dip in form and technical issues, is left unconfirmed even in the original article, and opinion in the thread remains divided.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisports Sokuhou+) thread “[Soccer] Struggling Kubo Takefusa left out of the squad for the first time this season… rival delivers 1G2A in a tough spot for him. Sociedad win a dramatic 3-2 despite a red card“.

  • Keisuke Honda: ‘Aiming for the World Cup Quarterfinals Is Too Low a Bar’ — Also Questions Coaching License System

    Comments made by Keisuke Honda, who provided on-site commentary for the North/Central America World Cup during the September 1 broadcast of ‘news zero,’ became a hot topic on 5ch’s Geinou/Sports Breaking News+ board. Japan’s national team went undefeated through the group stage (1 win, 2 draws) but was eliminated in the Round of 32 after losing 1-2 to Brazil in the first knockout round. Responding to fans who suggested the next goal should be ‘reaching the quarterfinals,’ Honda dismissed the idea, saying, ‘That’s setting the bar too low.’ He also questioned calls for him to obtain a coaching license, asking, ‘Since when did being a coach become such a heavy burden?’ Thread reactions were split between critics who said he should get certified before speaking out, and defenders who argued his track record speaks for itself.

    Keisuke Honda Responds to Calls to Lower the World Cup Goal from ‘Champions’ to ‘Quarterfinals’: ‘That’s Too Low a Bar’ — On Coaching Licenses: ‘Since When Did Being a Soccer Coach Become Such a Heavy Responsibility?’

    Keisuke Honda appeared on news zero, which aired Tuesday, September 1. He provided commentary on Japan’s matches at this year’s North/Central America World Cup in soccer, watching on-site as the younger players competed in the tournament he himself once played in.

    Japan advanced from the group stage with a historic first-ever unbeaten record (1 win, 2 draws), but lost 1-2 to Brazil in the first knockout round, exiting at the Round of 32. Having watched it all in person, Honda shared his candid impressions.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:03
    Guess I'll crack open a beer while watching Peace-kun, the world's most famous capybara from Omiya Zoo, on YouTube.
    4AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:04
    No, but seriously, the goal should first be winning the first knockout-round match.
    5AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:05
    Quit whining and just get the license if you want to be a coach, lol.
    7AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:07
    If he's not a properly trained coach, he'll probably end up abusing players (power harassment).
    8AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:07
    The license requirement isn't from Japan, it's from FIFA, right? Just get it already—Honda could pass it in no time.
    10AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:09
    Japan has faced beatable opponents in the knockout stage plenty of times before and still couldn't win. I think it's a mental issue.
    11AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:10
    Even if he had a license, no thanks to Honda as coach.
    12AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:10
    First surpass the club-manager track records of Takeshi Okada, Akira Nishino, and Hajime Moriyasu, then talk.
    13AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:11
    I want the players and coaches themselves to keep saying 'our goal is to win it all,' no matter how much people mock them or nitpick. If they themselves started saying 'quarterfinals,' I'd be like, 'what do you think our tax money is funding this for?'
    14AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:13
    (・д・) Sailed through qualifying. Managed a draw thanks to the Dutch coach's blunders and Japan's effort. Tunisia—a team so falling apart they changed coaches mid-tournament. Sweden—played an even match against a team that barely scraped through the European playoff.
    15AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:13
    If he's got time to whine like this, he should just go get the license first.
    17AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:15
    Of course it's a heavy responsibility—a pro coach carries the fate of an entire professional club on his shoulders.
    18AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:15
    Countries stronger than Japan: Spain, Argentina, England, Portugal, Belgium, Brazil, Netherlands, Morocco, Norway, Croatia, France. Honda: 'Quarterfinals? Too easy' (^∇^)
    20AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:17
    Don't try to jump straight into managing the senior national team with zero coaching experience. Work your way up properly. It sets a bad example for kids too—skipping all the steps just because you only want the glamorous job of national team coach.
    21AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:17
    Re: #1
    Has he done anything besides ABEMA commentary?
    22AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:17
    Even Zidane has a license.
    23AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:19
    Zidane is France's national coach, right? Germany has Klopp, the Netherlands has Xavi, and Japan has… Oiwa (;´Д`)
    25AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:21
    It's just entertainment, but they still require a license—how dumb is that, lol.
    26AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:21
    Well, the players only get this one shot right now, so of course they'll go in with the mindset of aiming to win it all. But don't go broadcasting that to the media/public—it'll mislead people. Viewers just want to watch with realistic expectations in mind. Throw around a vague 'we're aiming to win' and it just makes the audience anxious watching. Set clear, grounded benchmarks so people can actually enjoy watching.
    29AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:23
    Under the 'Zico system' (the loophole once used to install Zico as Japan coach without a license), he could do it anytime—it just means nobody's actually going to let you be coach. He couldn't even get results in Cambodia or wherever.
    30AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:24
    A great player doesn't automatically become a great coach. Is Honda even cut out for coaching in the first place?
    31AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:24
    A Honda-led Japan would probably pull good ratings, but it seems likely we'd end up with a team that can't reach the knockout stage again. Still, it'd be entertaining, so part of me wants to see him try.
    32AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:25
    This is the same Honda that Takeshi Okada told, 'That's just wrong.'
    33AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:26
    He'd probably just show up in a fancy suit trying to look cool while coaching.
    34AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:27
    If you want to change the rule, I think you should get certified first and then make your proposal… What he's saying basically amounts to 'I don't have a license but I wanna be a coach!' He's not a toddler.
    35AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:27
    Didn't he just run away after the disastrous showing at the Brazil World Cup, where the goal was also 'win it all'?
    36AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:27
    Japan's at the Round of 32, remember. Round of 16, then quarterfinals—even reaching the quarterfinals would be huge.
    39AnonymousSep 8, 2026 17:29
    South Korea sets 'win the World Cup' as their goal → Japan: (laughs)
    Japan sets 'win the World Cup' as their goal → the world: (laughs)
    That's how it's seen.
    63AnonymousSep 8, 2026 18:04
    The reality is Makino is actually closer to being national-team-coach material. Honda, quit dragging your feet and start getting your license while shifting into coaching/coaching-staff work.
    66AnonymousSep 8, 2026 18:06
    Re: #63
    I used to think Makino seemed shady, but turns out he's surprisingly solid.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The coaching license system isn’t a JFA-specific rule so much as a framework of coaching qualifications set by the AFC and FIFA, positioned as the minimum requirement for taking charge of a national team or a J1 club (as mentioned in comment #8). Honda has a history of managing Cambodia’s national team without holding the required license, and has long publicly argued that ‘if you have a track record, you don’t need a license.’ In this news zero appearance, he pushed back on both the post-World Cup argument that ‘the goal should be lowered to the quarterfinals’ and the calls for him to obtain a coaching license. What split the thread was how to weigh the gap between how loudly someone speaks and what they’ve actually accomplished. Those calling for him to get certified argued that, since he’d be responsible for a pro club or a national team, a license serves as a baseline guarantee of competence. Those defending him argued that the opinion of someone with a proven track record is worth hearing regardless of whether he holds a license. One point readers might easily miss: the license requirement isn’t just a promotional formality—it’s a system grounded in international standards.

    ※This article is compiled as an excerpt/summary of the 5ch (Geinou/Sports Breaking News+) thread “[Soccer] Keisuke Honda: World Cup Goal Downgraded from ‘Champions’ to ‘Quarterfinals,’ ‘That’s Too Low a Bar’ — On Coaching Licenses, ‘Since When Did Being a Coach Become Such a Heavy Responsibility?’“

  • Momoko Tanikawa Stuns With a Screamer From Near the Center Circle — Even German Media Left in Shock

    Momoko Tanikawa of Bayern Munich Women scored in the 18th minute of Matchday 3 of the Frauen-Bundesliga against Freiburg, burying a long-range strike from near the center circle in the opposition’s half after spotting the goalkeeper off her line. Bayern Women won the match 4-1, extending their perfect start to three wins from three, and German media reported the goal with astonishment. Reactions on 5channel were largely full of praise for Tanikawa’s decision-making in going for the long-range effort, while also sparking a lively debate comparing goalkeeper positioning and individual differences in kicking power in women’s soccer.

    German media reportedly couldn’t hide their astonishment at the golazo scored by Nadeshiko Japan midfielder Momoko Tanikawa.

    Bayern Women, featuring Tanikawa, hosted Freiburg at home in Matchday 3 of the Frauen-Bundesliga and cruised to a 4-1 win, securing three straight victories to open the season.

    Tanikawa put on a dominant performance in this match. In the 18th minute, she won the ball near the center circle in the opposing half and didn’t miss the fact that the opposing keeper had stepped off her line. Without a moment’s hesitation, she unleashed her right foot — the towering long-range shot sailed into the empty net for a spectacular opening goal.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousSep 8, 2026 20:20
    Damn TV Tokyo deliberately pulled down the goal footage from the Brazil match once, didn't they?
    Seriously gross.
    5AnonymousSep 8, 2026 20:20
    Didn't Kubo score an insane long-range shot like this a while back too?
    6AnonymousSep 8, 2026 20:22
    The level of women's soccer is getting scary.
    Scary, just scary.
    7AnonymousSep 8, 2026 20:22
    When you get shot on like that in women's soccer, there's nothing a keeper can do about it.
    8AnonymousSep 8, 2026 20:23
    This girl just thinks differently from normal players.
    She's probably always looking to shoot on goal.
    9AnonymousSep 8, 2026 20:24
    Re: #8
    I think her dad or someone told her to always shoot no matter how far out she is.
    10AnonymousSep 8, 2026 20:24
    Meanwhile, over at Bayern Munich Men's, Ito has been frozen out of the squad plans.
    18AnonymousSep 8, 2026 20:27
    Re: #10
    Didn't the sporting director and Kompany both deny that? They didn't say he's a guaranteed starter, but they said he's in the squad and there were no plans to sell him.
    11AnonymousSep 8, 2026 20:25
    In women's soccer, Tanikawa's kicking power is just broken compared to everyone else.
    29AnonymousSep 8, 2026 20:33
    Re: #11
    Utsuki, who used to play, had even more kicking power than that.
    16AnonymousSep 8, 2026 20:26
    Shots like this are considered bad manners overseas, you know.
    36AnonymousSep 8, 2026 20:38
    Is a long-range shot literally the only trick this player has?
    38AnonymousSep 8, 2026 20:39
    Re: #36
    At the very least, she's way better than you, lol lol.
    39AnonymousSep 8, 2026 20:39
    If there were data on the total distance of every goal she's scored, she'd probably rank #1 even counting men's soccer.
    68AnonymousSep 8, 2026 21:01
    Re: #39
    In terms of single-shot distance, there have been a few keepers who scored directly off a punt kick.
    41AnonymousSep 8, 2026 20:40
    Somebody get Kubo-kun to have her teach him how to shoot.
    46AnonymousSep 8, 2026 20:43
    Re: #41
    Kubo's a "connector" type (a player who links up play rather than shoots), so he's not even looking to shoot in the first place.
    43AnonymousSep 8, 2026 20:42
    But Nadeshiko Japan would lose 30-0 to a junior high team from Shizuoka, right? (lol)
    45AnonymousSep 8, 2026 20:42
    Re: #43
    But she's still better than you.
    50AnonymousSep 8, 2026 20:45
    Re: #43
    You'd get crushed even playing against elementary schoolers.
    47AnonymousSep 8, 2026 20:43
    She's scored long-range goals like this many times before — keepers underestimate her, assuming a shot from that far won't reach because it's women's soccer, so they step up too far.
    53AnonymousSep 8, 2026 20:46
    Re: #47
    I mean, regardless of men's or women's soccer, isn't it just normal in the modern game for keepers to step up and cover the space in front of them?
    55AnonymousSep 8, 2026 20:49
    Guess Bayern Women are strong too, huh.
    56AnonymousSep 8, 2026 20:53
    Re: #55
    Well, basically team strength is proportional to financial power.
    79AnonymousSep 8, 2026 21:21
    Re: #55
    Bayern Women extended their unbeaten league run to 45 matches, setting a new Frauen-Bundesliga record.
    ttps://www.allfootballapp.com/ja/articles/5266486-45

    Wolfsburg used to be strong at the European level too, but lately Bayern is just dominant.
    57AnonymousSep 8, 2026 20:55
    The position with the biggest gap between men's and women's soccer is goalkeeper.
    A shot like this wouldn't go in against a men's keeper.
    65AnonymousSep 8, 2026 21:00
    Re: #57
    This is women's soccer, so that's irrelevant here.
    70AnonymousSep 8, 2026 21:08
    Roberto Hongo (a mentor character from the soccer anime/manga Captain Tsubasa) always said, "If you can see the goal, shoot right away."
    71AnonymousSep 8, 2026 21:10
    Re: #70
    In that world, the goal is literally beyond the horizon, after all.
    72AnonymousSep 8, 2026 21:11
    Wait, there's a Japanese player at Bayern right now? And a woman? What's going on?
    73AnonymousSep 8, 2026 21:12
    Re: #72
    If you don't know, don't force yourself into the thread, old man.
    75AnonymousSep 8, 2026 21:15
    The level at the U-20 Women's World Cup currently being held in Poland has really shot up too.
    Check out the Canada vs. England match in Group B, the "group of death."
    The speed is on a completely different level from a few years ago — hard to believe this is U-20 women's soccer.
    78AnonymousSep 8, 2026 21:20
    Re: #75
    Japan barely beat New Zealand after getting a penalty right at the end of the second half, so I can't expect much at all.

    Background and Talking Points

    Bayern Women, Tanikawa’s club, are off to a hot start with three straight wins to open the Bundesliga season, and as mentioned in post 79, they’re a powerhouse currently extending their unbeaten league streak. This long-range goal was a deliberate strike made after spotting the keeper’s positioning, and discussion in the thread centered mainly on praise for her judgment in “shooting before the keeper can get back to the ball.” At the same time, comparisons came up regarding goalkeeper positioning and reach in women’s soccer, but that’s a tactical topic rooted in physical differences between men’s and women’s soccer, not a knock on Tanikawa’s individual skill. Her “shoot the moment you see it” playing style isn’t new this season either — she’s scored similar long-range goals before, and that’s background that doesn’t come through in the article alone: this is shaping up to be a signature move of hers, not a one-off stroke of luck.

    *This article is compiled as an excerpt/summary from the 5channel (Entertainment/Sports News+) thread “[Soccer] German Media Stunned by Bayern’s Momoko Tanikawa’s “Super Long-Range Bomb”! “A Dream Goal From the Center Line”.”

  • Which countries would dominate soccer if they got serious? 5ch: “No one could stop the US if it went all in”

    A thread on 5ch’s live-discussion board lit up around the question, “Which countries would get strong if they seriously committed to soccer?” The thread starter named India and China, and posters spent the thread guessing at the third spot. Some pointed out that China poured national resources into the sport through the 2010s without much payoff, while others noted that Croatia, despite its small population, is a soccer powerhouse. The recurring theme across the thread was that population size and economic clout don’t necessarily translate into soccer strength.

    1AnonymousSep 8, 2026 14:34
    So what's the third country?
    4AnonymousSep 8, 2026 14:36
    China went all in and, well, you saw how that turned out.
    5AnonymousSep 8, 2026 14:37
    India's weak at sports across the board.
    The country just doesn't invest in athletics.
    7AnonymousSep 8, 2026 14:37
    Re: #5
    They've got cricket though
    10AnonymousSep 8, 2026 14:39
    The US is basically one step from being a powerhouse already.
    They've got a ton of players in Europe's top 5 leagues, plus some seriously promising young talent coming up.
    11AnonymousSep 8, 2026 14:39
    China went all in through the 2010s and still flopped in the end.
    13AnonymousSep 8, 2026 14:39
    China went all in and it was a disaster lol.
    It's India, Canada, and the US.
    15AnonymousSep 8, 2026 14:40
    East Asia's held back because the whole region's level is low.
    Europe and Latin America have it way too easy by comparison.
    16AnonymousSep 8, 2026 14:40
    If Japan funneled its entire athletic talent pool into soccer alone, they'd probably win it all shockingly easily.
    17AnonymousSep 8, 2026 14:40
    Is China just bad at team sports or something?
    22AnonymousSep 8, 2026 14:41
    Re: #17
    Aren't they mediocre at individual sports too?
    18AnonymousSep 8, 2026 14:40
    China went all in and still ended up like that.
    They're just not built for team sports in general.
    19AnonymousSep 8, 2026 14:40
    Isn't China way too weak at sports for its population and economy?
    The only famous athlete they've got is Eileen Gu.
    21AnonymousSep 8, 2026 14:40
    Does China still separate kids from their parents and exempt them from compulsory schooling to send them to training camps?
    23AnonymousSep 8, 2026 14:42
    Hasn't China gotten weaker at sports overall compared to before?
    24AnonymousSep 8, 2026 14:42
    Australia isn't big on soccer either, but they hold their own pretty well.
    25AnonymousSep 8, 2026 14:42
    Gotta be the US.
    Even with talent getting siphoned off into other sports, they're still fairly strong.
    26AnonymousSep 8, 2026 14:42
    China's so hyper-competitive that in team sports they end up dragging each other down instead of cooperating, so it's rough for them.
    No idea about India though.
    29AnonymousSep 8, 2026 14:43
    Re: #26
    Guess whenever they get together they just start dancing instead… (poking fun at the Bollywood group-dance stereotype)
    27AnonymousSep 8, 2026 14:43
    Re: #22
    They're strong in gymnastics and shooting.
    Also table tennis.
    28AnonymousSep 8, 2026 14:43
    Gotta be an African nation.
    Freak talents like Cape Verde just appear out of nowhere, so if the environment and economy came together they could churn out monsters nonstop.
    95AnonymousSep 8, 2026 15:53
    Re: #28
    People have been saying that since Cameroon and Nigeria broke out, and nothing's changed in 30 years.
    39AnonymousSep 8, 2026 14:49
    It's obviously the US.
    If all the talent and money currently sunk into American football went into soccer instead, it'd be insane.
    40AnonymousSep 8, 2026 14:50
    Japan's also one of the few countries where soccer isn't the top sport, so unless baseball vanishes entirely, winning the World Cup is a pipe dream.
    51AnonymousSep 8, 2026 14:58
    Re: #40
    Even if it became Japan's most popular sport, winning a major contact sport like that would still be a pipe dream.
    45AnonymousSep 8, 2026 14:55
    The US is already pretty strong without even truly going all in.
    If the US ever got fully serious, no country could beat them.
    Also keeping an eye on Indonesia — they're a bundle of potential too.
    58AnonymousSep 8, 2026 15:01
    It's probably somewhere among the US, China, India, and Indonesia, but honestly it's the US.
    If they seriously went all in, nobody could stop them. It would finally shake the notion that soccer belongs to Europe.
    87AnonymousSep 8, 2026 15:28
    Re: #58
    Indonesia's passion for soccer is on a whole other level.
    61AnonymousSep 8, 2026 15:02
    Big countries tend to be weak at soccer, huh.
    Russia, China, India, the US.
    64AnonymousSep 8, 2026 15:03
    Re: #61
    They were strong back in the Soviet era though.
    81AnonymousSep 8, 2026 15:16
    There's also the example of Croatia, strong despite its small population. A large population matters because it raises the odds of producing a generational talent, but what matters more is how passionate the public is about soccer.
    82AnonymousSep 8, 2026 15:18
    Re: #81
    It's not just Croatia — the whole former Yugoslavia region is absurdly strong at sports.
    They've got world-class players in soccer, basketball, and tennis.
    97AnonymousSep 8, 2026 15:55
    🇨🇳 China building the world's largest ⚽ stadium






    Building the world's largest stadium, seating 100,000

    Guangzhou Evergrande FC broke ground on the 16th on a new stadium with a total construction cost of 12 billion yuan (roughly ¥181.9 billion).
    Due for completion by the end of 2022, it will seat 100,000 — more than Camp Nou, home of Spanish La Liga club FC Barcelona.
    It's expected to become the largest soccer-specific stadium in the world.
    https://www.afpbb.com/articles/-/3279647
    98AnonymousSep 8, 2026 15:55
    Re: #97
    How come Japan doesn't have anything like this?

    Background and key points of this discussion

    China has a track record of pouring national investment into soccer development — in 2020, for instance, Guangzhou Evergrande broke ground on a dedicated 100,000-seat stadium costing roughly ¥181.9 billion. Even so, the national team’s results on the world stage have stagnated, and it’s often cited as a textbook example of how big facilities and budgets don’t automatically translate into strength. Many posters in the thread doubted any real correlation with population or economic size, contrasting China with Croatia and the former Yugoslav states — countries with populations in the low millions that have produced results in sports demanding individual skill. The shared takeaway across the thread was that a country’s size matters less than the quality of its athletic population, its development environment, and the depth of public passion for the sport.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyo G) thread “Top 3 countries that would get strong if they seriously committed to soccer: “India,” “China”…“

  • Leeds’ Ao Tanaka Wins Man of the Match With 63% of the Fan Vote, Driving the Team on Both Ends of the Pitch

    Leeds United announced on September 6 that midfielder Ao Tanaka has been named “Hisense Player of the Match” for the previous day’s Premier League Matchday 3 fixture against Brighton. Tanaka captured 63% of the fan vote, well clear of runner-up Tarik Muharemović (9%), goalkeeper James Trafford (8%), and goalscorer Jaden Bogle (7%). Reaction threads on 5channel were mostly full of praise, but some posters pointed out that local reporters’ match ratings had Tanaka tied for the lowest score on the pitch, splitting opinion and reigniting debate over the offside call that wiped out one of his goals.

    Leeds United’s Japan international midfielder Ao Tanaka has received overwhelming support from the club’s fans.

    On September 6, Leeds announced the “Hisense Player of the Match” for the previous day’s Premier League Matchday 3 game against Brighton. Tanaka took 63% of the fan vote to claim the award.

    Runner-up Tarik Muharemović took 9%, goalkeeper James Trafford took 8%, and goalscorer Jaden Bogle took 7%. Tanaka finished far ahead of the rest of the field, earning high praise from supporters.

    Source: sportingnews.com / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:37
    This guy's either MVP or dead last, never anything in between, huh
    34AnonymousSep 7, 2026 22:06
    Re: #3
    Stop spreading fake news
    He barely ever gets the lowest rating
    Don't be jealous just because Tanaka's doing well in the Premier League
    5AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:44
    Kaishu Sano had an assist too, you know
    36AnonymousSep 7, 2026 22:08
    Re: #5
    Sano's in the Bundesliga, the 'farmers' league' (a dismissive nickname implying it's a weaker league)
    Tanaka's in the Premier League, the strongest league in the world — totally different level
    41AnonymousSep 7, 2026 22:14
    Re: #36
    Fanboys like you are no different from the haters deep down
    This is the correct take Re: #38
    60AnonymousSep 7, 2026 22:38
    Re: #41
    Don't come into a Tanaka thread to plug Sano, he's got nothing to do with this
    Don't lump them together, the league levels are completely different
    Even Doan doesn't get this much buzz just for a Bundesliga assist
    9AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:50
    Didn't realize hands counted for offside too
    Thought it was just about foot position
    Anyway I still think Calvert-Lewin should've been MOM
    The attack doesn't function without that guy
    37AnonymousSep 7, 2026 22:10
    Re: #9
    Calvert-Lewin himself said in an interview that once Tanaka came on, he started running the game, the flow changed, the team could attack, and that's how the goal happened
    39AnonymousSep 7, 2026 22:13
    Re: #9
    Calling it offside when he wasn't even playing the ball with his hand makes zero sense
    His leg wasn't even out
    That's discrimination against Asian players
    So frustrating that Tanaka's goal got disallowed
    102AnonymousSep 7, 2026 23:13
    Re: #9
    Isn't his shoulder clearly out though?
    11AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:53
    He really was sharp out there, no doubt
    82AnonymousSep 7, 2026 22:59
    Re: #11
    Scoring against big clubs like Chelsea and Liverpool, running riot against Man United, and now MOM
    Ao Tanaka's stock is rising again ✌🐶✨
    https://imgur.com/aNY34Af.gif
    https://x.com/goaljp_official/status/1996325046533726647
    12AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:53
    Looks like both Leeds and Tanaka can survive in the Premier League
    94AnonymousSep 7, 2026 23:08
    Re: #12Re: #1
    Ao Tanaka, woof-tastic MOM performance, going off 🥰

    Overwhelming, isn't he — our squad ✌🐶🐦‍🔥✨

    Woof woof woof woof~ 😍
    15AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:57
    Tanaka's one of the few who didn't break down in the Premier League
    Endo and Mitoma both ran out of gas, but Tanaka made it to the World Cup — when it comes to managing his condition, he's one of the most capable players on the national team
    44AnonymousSep 7, 2026 22:18
    Re: #15
    Seriously, Tanaka is way too underrated
    Everyone else is falling apart in the Premier League
    Meanwhile Tanaka's winning MOM and scoring multiple goals against top clubs, that deserves way more credit
    He's doing things other Japanese players haven't managed
    16AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:58
    Wait, wasn't he on the chopping block right around the World Cup?
    42AnonymousSep 7, 2026 22:16
    Re: #16
    That's more fake news from the haters
    Even before the World Cup, Tanaka was playing great, scoring goals, starting consistently with the best win rate on the team, and helping keep Leeds up in the Premier League
    18AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:02
    If only he'd stop giving up those scary turnovers every so often…
    46AnonymousSep 7, 2026 22:21
    Re: #18
    Other players give the ball away and make mistakes way more often than he does
    The haters are just jealous, spreading fake news to build a bad image and run a smear campaign
    Ignoring his defensive and attacking contributions, ignoring everyone else's mistakes, working overtime on the smear campaign — pathetic, jealous haters
    19AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:02
    I'm convinced Sou Tanaka will eventually surpass Ao Tanaka
    47AnonymousSep 7, 2026 22:23
    Re: #19
    Lol, some amateur who doesn't even know they play different positions is hating on Tanaka
    Sou Tanaka's a No. 6, so it's Kaishu Sano whose position actually overlaps with him
    If anything, an Ao Tanaka + Sou Tanaka double-pivot midfield ('W-Tanaka') is more realistic
    21AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:09
    Isn't this the guy blamed for the Brazil loss?
    22AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:35
    Re: #21
    He only got blamed because the players around him were bad — this match proves that when the players around him are competent, he links up play just fine
    25AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:49
    Re: #21
    Anyone still calling him a scapegoat is an uninformed amateur just jumping on the bandwagon
    52AnonymousSep 7, 2026 22:27
    Re: #21
    The real culprit for the Brazil loss is manager Moriyasu and his bizarre tactics, above everything else
    Then there's Sugawara losing his mark, Machino standing around doing nothing, Sano losing almost every duel while being involved in all four conceded goals, and Junnosuke Suzuki not dropping to receive the ball
    On top of that, they should've attacked more while the starters were still on but couldn't find a goal
    Japan has only ever beaten Brazil in matches where they scored three goals, so winning with just one was never realistic to begin with. Don't underestimate Brazil
    23AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:42
    If even someone at Tanaka's level gets this kind of treatment… people worship the Premier League way too much
    53AnonymousSep 7, 2026 22:29
    Re: #23
    It's the opposite
    Tanaka's actually really good, the haters are just running him down and underrating him with their smear campaign
    How many players are putting up results like Tanaka's in the Premier League?
    Honestly it's probably just Mitoma and Tanaka
    80AnonymousSep 7, 2026 22:59
    From the Tanaka thread:

    141 Name Withheld — Non-Discussion OK 2026/09/07(Mon) 16:34:48.15 ID:mZCeM+6h
    Brighton completely dominated that match
    Official Premier League MVP went to Vuskovic, with the FA's official MVP going to Dunk by a narrow margin over him
    Official match ratings had Tanaka tied for 7th-best on the pitch
    The local beat reporter's ratings had Tanaka tied for the worst

    Reminds me of when Kubo won the fan-voted MOM even though Sociedad lost
    81AnonymousSep 7, 2026 22:59
    Brighton completely dominated that match
    Official Premier League MVP went to Vuskovic, with the FA's official MVP going to Dunk by a narrow margin over him
    Official match ratings had Tanaka tied for 7th-best on the pitch
    The local beat reporter's ratings had Tanaka tied for the worst

    Reminds me of when Kubo won the fan-voted MOM even though Sociedad lost
    84AnonymousSep 7, 2026 23:00
    Re: #81
    Why do you have to post basically the same thing at this perfect timing, lol
    85AnonymousSep 7, 2026 23:01
    Re: #81
    Re: #80
    The Tanaka haters clearly didn't watch the match at all and are just spreading fake news, lol
    Thanks to Tanaka, the team could actually attack against a tough opponent
    Without Tanaka it's a completely different story — even last time, they got beaten during the stretch when Tanaka was off the pitch
    105AnonymousSep 7, 2026 23:14
    Re: #81
    Yeah, this is the correct take
    No point trying to spin the narrative
    You need to be named one of the Premier League's five best players of a season like Kamada was to lock down a regular starting spot
    Even Sugawara made a Team of the Week

    Tanaka's never made one in the Premier League
    104AnonymousSep 7, 2026 23:14
    Re: #102
    Can't trust the CG (the computer-generated offside line graphic)
    Doesn't look like they've shown the actual photo
    108AnonymousSep 7, 2026 23:15
    Re: #104
    I watched the match live and it was clearly, completely offside
    Everyone in the stadium, players included, knew it was offside
    110AnonymousSep 7, 2026 23:16
    Re: #108
    No way that's true
    Leeds fans themselves keep saying stuff like 'you play the ball with your feet, so why does a hand being out make it offside?'
    117AnonymousSep 7, 2026 23:22
    Re: #108
    I was following the live-commentary thread and nobody was saying it was onside
    Everyone agreed it was offside

    [U-NEXT] Premier League General Thread ★9
    https://rio2016.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/livefoot/1788551268

    Not even a sliver of a case for onside
    Even the players' reaction was basically 'yeah, fair enough, offside'

    Background and Points of Debate

    The “Hisense Player of the Match” is a fan-voted award the club hands out after each game, which is a separate thing from the ratings assigned by local reporters and data sites using their own criteria (official match ratings, beat-reporter ratings). It’s not unusual for the two to diverge, and this time the split between Tanaka’s overwhelming 63% fan-vote win and a tied-for-worst score from local beat reporters is exactly what fueled the disagreement in the thread. Fan votes tend to be swayed by popularity and overall impression of a player’s game, while ratings tend to weigh the precision of individual plays more heavily, so calling the result either “underrated” or “overrated” based on just one metric alone would be premature. As for the offside call, current rules can in some cases treat the position of the hands or arms as part of the offside criteria, which can clash with the more traditional, intuitive idea that only foot position matters. That gap in how well understood the rule is seems to be part of why the disallowed goal sparked so much debate.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Soccer] Leeds’ Ao Tanaka Wins MOM With a Stunning 63% of the Vote — Drove Both Ends of the Pitch With an Opening Assist and a Crossbar Strike.”

  • Tottenham’s 52-Year Shame: Zero Shots on Target Despite $400M+ Spending Spree, Still Winless

    Tottenham played out a goalless draw away at Nottingham Forest. Despite a summer spending spree of over £300 million (about ¥63.5 billion), the club has failed to score in three matches to start the season, and on this occasion didn’t manage a single shot on target — an ignominious first in 52 years. On 5ch, opinions split over manager De Zerbi’s tactics and how he’s using loan signing Mudryk, with plenty of comparisons to the days of Son Heung-min and Kane, and complaints that the new signings don’t match their price tags.

    Premier League side Tottenham Hotspur played away at Nottingham Forest on the 5th (local time) and settled for a 0-0 draw. Despite splashing out more than £300 million (about ¥63.5 billion) this summer, the club has now gone scoreless for three straight matches to open the season. While they picked up their first point and clean sheet of the campaign, going without a single shot on target exposed a serious lack of firepower up front.

    Winless through three openers

    Tottenham opened the season with a 0-3 loss to Brentford, then fell 0-2 to Newcastle in matchday two. Against Forest, forward Omar Marmoush wasted a golden first-half chance by shooting wide, and substitute striker Dominic Solanke headed over the bar late on.

    Source: footballchannel.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:52
    They just don't have a striker.
    Kane and Sonny (Son Heung-min) were truly great.
    5AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:52
    Spent that much money and still haven't scored — lol
    7AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:54
    Give Mudryk the ball more, come on
    61AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:49
    Re: #7
    Mudryk himself is overrated, a product of the Ukraine transfer bubble. He's not worth anywhere near £75 million.
    11AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:57
    Re: #1
    So was it actually a good thing that Takai got loaned out to STVV?
    If he'd stayed, even getting playing time, he'd have just ended up as the scapegoat.
    17AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:00
    Re: #11
    Centre-back is the one position where they've got needlessly deep depth, so he was never going to play anyway.
    Even if he'd stayed he'd be their 5th-choice CB — with a back four and no European games, he'd never get a look-in.
    12AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:57
    Villa haven't scored either — can someone do something about this?
    13AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:58
    They were fighting relegation right up to the last matchday last season, so this is about right.
    Everyone's expecting too much.
    18AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:01
    At this rate they could actually get relegated lol
    19AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:01
    Is De Zerbi even suited to managing a big-spending club like this?
    20AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:01
    Guess they really can't do it without Sonny and 'Hurricane' (a punning nickname for Harry Kane)
    21AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:03
    Even in Son's last season here, they finished something like 17th in the league.
    22AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:03
    De Zerbi's reputation is way overhyped — it's all vibes, no substance.
    23AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:03
    There used to be a convenience store chain in Japan called 'Hot Spar' (just a coincidental name match with Tottenham's 'Hotspur' nickname).
    24AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:04
    Stacking up star players won't help.
    De Zerbi's system only works with players who can run all day.
    25AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:05
    When did they transfer out 'Hekke'? Didn't even notice.
    26AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:06
    Guess the hole left by Son Heung-min really was huge.
    37AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:18
    Re: #26
    They were 17th even when he was still there.
    27AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:07
    So Mudryk ended up at Tottenham.
    He was originally one of De Zerbi's protégés — early on he used to get compared to Mitoma, and De Zerbi even talked about it.
    29AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:12
    ¥63.5 billion? Transfer fees are getting way too inflated.
    Only Middle Eastern money can keep up with this.
    30AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:13
    Hot Spar → Coco Store → FamilyMart (the real lineage of that convenience store chain).
    31AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:13
    Three teams still without a goal or a win:
    Aston Villa — summer spending ¥54.0 billion
    Spurs — summer spending ¥66.0 billion
    Coventry — summer spending ¥29.0 billion
    36AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:16
    Re: #31
    Makes you realize that even without being a powerhouse like City or Arsenal, just being a Premier League club means having a stupid amount of money.
    32AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:14
    Weak as hell but still so damn annoying.
    Just get relegated already.
    34AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:14
    The squad looks strong on paper once all the injured players are back, but I haven't seen Kulusevski play in like two years — is he done?
    35AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:15
    Pouring big money into mediocre signings isn't going to win you games.
    Mudryk, seriously? lol
    Why would you take on a guy who was basically junk who couldn't even cut it at Chelsea?
    40AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:21
    Re: #35
    They haven't spent big money on Mudryk at all — he's just on loan, no obligation to buy.
    This is the same Mudryk who dominated for De Zerbi's Shakhtar and had every top Premier League club fighting over him.
    If he's in good shape he could still deliver, and if not, they just send him back — low risk either way.
    The big money was spent on a different position.
    38AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:19
    They should just start holding official Premier League matches in America already.
    Right after the World Cup would be the perfect opportunity.
    39AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:21
    Kane really was something else, huh.
    They were a team you couldn't take lightly when he was around, but the way they've fallen off since he left is genuinely scary.
    45AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:28
    A Premier League legend.
    They were strong when Son Heung-min was still there.
    70AnonymousSep 7, 2026 22:05
    Re: #45
    They were 17th even with him there.
    58AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:42
    They're saying Mudryk 'isn't ready yet' — well then don't play him.
    It's like in baseball when a manager says of a player who made an error or a wild pitch, 'he's not at first-team level' — but you're the one who decided to use him before the game, so the responsibility is on you, the manager.
    68AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:56
    Takai turned out to be a bust too.
    79AnonymousSep 7, 2026 22:16
    Re: #68
    Wasn't he loaned out to Sint-Truiden (STVV)?

    Background and Discussion Points

    In recent years Tottenham has relied on proven goal-scorers like Kane and Son Heung-min, and replacing that firepower after their departures has been an ongoing challenge. This summer the club made aggressive moves, including bringing in Mudryk on loan, but as posters in the thread point out, Mudryk joined on a free loan with no transfer fee, and the fact that the big money was actually spent on a different position isn’t mentioned in the main article itself — worth keeping in mind. There are also posts noting that other clubs like Aston Villa and Coventry have made huge outlays of their own yet remain winless to start the season, reflecting a broader trend of inflated transfer fees across this year’s Premier League. While criticism tends to converge on the manager’s tactics, the thread also raises factors that can’t be explained by a managerial change alone — such as individual players’ fit and past league finishes (one poster notes the club was 17th even when Son was still there).

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Geisports Sokuho+) thread “[Football] Tottenham’s Humiliating Record: Zero Shots on Target for First Time in 52 Years — Winless Through Three Openers Despite ¥63.5 Billion Spending Spree Slammed as a ‘Disappointment’ Locally.”

  • Valencia Crushed 0-5 by Barcelona — Ryunosuke Sato Comes on Late but Can’t Save Them, Fans Rage at Owner

    On September 6 (local time), La Liga side Valencia suffered a crushing 0-5 defeat at home to Barcelona at the Mestalla. Their defense fell apart, conceding twice in the first half alone, and they shipped more goals to Lamine Yamal and others in the second half. Nineteen-year-old midfielder Ryunosuke Sato came on as a substitute but couldn’t change the flow of the game, and fans in the stadium voiced strong frustration. On 5ch, discussion centered on the club’s overall decline, how Sato is being used, and the financial situation tied to construction of the new stadium.

    La Liga’s Valencia crushed 0-5 by Barcelona

    Spanish top-flight side Valencia faced Barcelona in a league match on September 6 (local time) and were thoroughly beaten 0-5. At their home ground, the Mestalla, fans erupted in anger at the club, with Spanish paper Marca describing the bizarre scene as “a completely collapsed Mestalla.”

    Barcelona seized control from the first half, and Valencia went into the break down two goals. The second half brought no let-up, as opposing forward Lamine Yamal and others found the net for three more goals. Midfielder Ryunosuke Sato also came on as a substitute but could not turn the tide. With the team helpless on the pitch, fans in the stands made their fury plain.

    Source: football-zone.net / Original article here

    4AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:25
    Gordon's a huge success, huh
    I'm shocked he's that good
    9AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:27
    They switched to a back five and still conceded within 10 minutes
    What are they even trying to do lmao
    10AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:28
    In the end, Sato can't beat Kang-in
    Japan can't match Korea's quality
    78AnonymousSep 7, 2026 22:00
    Re: #10
    Atletico, with Lee Kang-in starting, got completely thrashed 0-3 by Bilbao lol
    And Álvarez's dead-fish eyes…
    Nobody wants Simeone's gutless football (slang "inketsu" — spineless, joyless play) anyway
    13AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:30
    Even if you end up hating Sato, please don't end up hating the owner
    14AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:31
    I said he should go to the Premier League or La Liga, but it's pointless unless it's with a top club 😰
    15AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:34
    Alright! Pack your bags and hurry back to Tokyo! Let's aim for the J.League title!
    16AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:38
    Going to La Liga right now
    there's basically zero room to develop unless you're at one of the big 3

    Just look at Kubo, it's pretty grim
    17AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:39
    Most clubs would lose 0-5 against Barcelona (´・ω・`)
    18AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:39
    Valencia always seemed like a strong club somehow, but I guess this is what they're really like
    62AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:26
    Re: #18
    They've only been strong since the Mario Kempes era
    72AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:48
    Re: #18
    They've only been strong since the Aimar era
    19AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:39
    Well, can't help it against a dominant Barcelona like this
    20AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:40
    At 19, maybe it would've been fine to start out at Sint-Truiden instead…
    31AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:50
    Re: #20
    That's extreme. This match's result doesn't really reflect on Sato
    He came on when the loss was basically already decided
    It's still early — the real question is how he settles in and performs this season
    21AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:42
    The guys hyping up Sato suddenly went quiet lol
    22AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:42
    Valencia used to be the third-biggest power behind Real and Barca
    How did it come to this?
    38AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:54
    Re: #22
    The new stadium build turned into a mess and wrecked their finances
    Though it's finally nearing completion — wasn't this supposed to be Mestalla's last season?
    24AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:46
    Re: #1
    Barca and Madrid right now are just too strong (´・ω・`)
    25AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:46
    Valencia's been in a state where relegation wouldn't be a shock any given year for a while now, so this season they'll probably finally go down
    Sato really landed himself in a tough club
    26AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:48
    The thread title makes it sound like Ryunosuke is the one being told to get out right now
    29AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:49
    Re: #26
    Honestly, it might actually be better if he did leave 😅
    27AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:48
    Sato was the local fans' only hope, and there was fierce backlash when he was first announced as a bench player before kickoff — but once he actually came on as a sub, it was arguably his worst showing yet, mysterious lost balls and one mistake after another. Left me with a really complicated feeling
    28AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:48
    Raphinha's been playing center forward and barely moving, which is actually making things worse
    30AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:50
    Watching the last 3 matches, what stands out to me is that physically he's just not holding up at all
    34AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:52
    Against Barca this is probably about right
    But seriously, what's going on with Valencia?!
    35AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:52
    If he can score around 5 goals this season, maybe someone will pick him up after they get relegated
    That is, if there's a clause letting him transfer out if they drop to the second division
    41AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:57
    Conceding five — does that mean the defense fully collapsed?
    42AnonymousSep 7, 2026 20:59
    Re: #41
    Apparently all the players were just standing frozen in their starting positions
    Didn't watch the match, but something sounds off
    46AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:12
    Sato was unstoppable in the friendlies though
    Ever since the season started he hasn't been able to do a thing
    50AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:16
    Re: #46
    That's because the teams he was dominating were like third-division sides
    51AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:18
    He'd been a starter since the season opener and was the one player getting praised
    Did they hold him back for the Barca game since they were going to lose anyway?
    58AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:24
    Re: #51
    For the manager he's probably just bench depth
    54AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:22
    Spanish outlet ElDesmarque gave Sato a '7' rating, praising him: "Many of the team's good attacking moves came from his feet." They also noted that "the crowd, unable to understand the decision to substitute him, booed."
    https://www.footballchannel.jp/2026/08/23/post994155/

    Feels like he's just getting dragged down by the team's collapse
    65AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:31
    Re: #54
    He's treated as the best player on the current roster at 19
    He should transfer out in the winter window
    60AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:25
    Re: #1
    The "get out right now" is aimed at the owner, isn't it
    What's with this misleading thread title
    64AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:29
    Re: #63
    Re: #60
    This reporter always does this
    It's on purpose
    63AnonymousSep 7, 2026 21:27
    Soccer magazines run a lot of clickbait headlines

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Valencia’s finances have been strained for years by construction of their new stadium, leaving squad reinforcement stalled, and many commenters in the thread voiced concern about relegation risk this season. The thread title’s “get out right now” was originally meant as criticism aimed at the club’s owner, but it’s easily misread as an attack on Sato personally, and several replies pointed out exactly that confusion. Opinions on Sato himself were split — a Spanish newspaper had rated him highly (a “7”) in an earlier match, while for this game many felt he looked off his game. Some commenters brought up Takefusa Kubo as an example, suggesting that young Japanese players tend to struggle to develop outside of La Liga’s top clubs.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Soccer] Ryunosuke Sato subbed on, but… Valencia “completely collapses” — fans furious after 0-5 rout, “Get out right now”.”

  • JEF United Chiba wins in J1 for the first time in 6,132 days — 5ch: “Biggest news of the day”

    In Matchday 6 of the J1 League, JEF United Chiba beat Gamba Osaka 2-0 at home, picking up their first J1 win in 6,132 days (about 17 years) — since defeating FC Tokyo on November 22, 2009. After opening this season with five straight losses, the club finally got on the board thanks to goals from Yamura and Tsukui. On 5ch, threads lit up with reactions like “biggest news of the day,” while heavy rain across Chiba Prefecture triggered planned train suspensions that day, sparking side discussion about attendance at Fukuda Denshi Arena and the transit situation. Plenty of commenters also fondly recalled former manager Ivica Osim.

    ◇2026 Meiji Yasuda J1 League Matchday 6: Chiba 2-0 Gamba Osaka (September 6, 2026, Fukuda Denshi Arena)

    Nine Meiji Yasuda J1 League matches were played on the 6th, with Chiba cruising to a 2-0 home win over Gamba Osaka, snapping their season-opening five-match losing streak.

    It’s Chiba’s first J1 win since beating FC Tokyo on November 22, 2009 — 6,132 days ago.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:11
    Might've honestly been happier stuck in the J2 swamp
    44AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:23
    Re: #2
    That alone was worth it just to (barely) stop a whole generation from growing up never knowing Chiba as a J1 team.
    And with the season-format transition lining up nicely, we got an extra half-year in J1 out of it anyway — no regrets left.

    Or so said one old-guard Chiba supporter.
    3AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:11
    Wait, they'd already played 5 matches?
    Had no idea.
    4AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:12
    Chiba, the gatekeeper of J2 —

    looks like we'll get to watch them there again next season.
    7AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:12
    The 'Tax League' isn't getting any buzz at all lol (a mocking nickname for J.League, since stadiums are largely funded by taxpayer money)
    86AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:39
    Re: #7
    Yeah exactly.
    Even when there's a match on a Wednesday, TV only pushes baseball and ignores it completely.
    Pathetic TV coverage that just endlessly rehashes garbage non-news like "Ohtani isn't in the starting lineup."
    9AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:12
    JEF Chiba actually winning…
    Guess that means it'll rain tomorrow, huh
    …nah, that joke's way too real to make right now
    23AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:17
    Re: #9
    It's already pouring, so say it all you want
    11AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:13
    Mito Hollyhock beating Kashima and steadily racking up points — maybe that lit a fire under Chiba too, like they couldn't afford to keep losing.
    12AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:14
    Gamba's Myojin has clearly had nothing but bad vibes around him.
    Though it's kind of funny how Gamba cycles back to a terrible manager the second things start looking up.
    15AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:16
    How generous of Gamba, handing out points to every promoted team
    19AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:17
    Did they really need to spell it out in number of days?
    Also wait, did they lose every single match in the no-relegation transition league?
    36AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:20
    Re: #19
    That six-month transition-format league doesn't count as an official J1 season
    20AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:17
    How many years has it even been since Chiba won in J1, lol
    Anyway, congrats
    21AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:17
    Apparently Nagoya only had 2 points after 6 matchdays last year, so Chiba should be fine, right?
    22AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:17
    ∩∪^ω^)Woof woof!
    |   ⊂ノ
    |   _⊃
    し ⌒
    24AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:17
    Chiba is Ichihara, though, lol (old club name: JEF United Ichihara)
    35AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:20
    Re: #24
    It became "JEF United Ichihara Chiba," remember?
    50AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:27
    Re: #24
    Ichihara is VONDS now
    Chiba is JR East Furukawa United
    They ended up splitting into separate territories
    25AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:18
    JEF United Ichihara's fight starts here!
    26AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:18
    JEF pulls off first J1 win in 17 years!
    27AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:18
    Amazing —
    meanwhile the Chiba Lotte Marines posted losses for 50 straight years
    28AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:18
    DOGGO VICTORY HAS ARRIVED━━━━━━(°∀°)━━━━━━!!!! (the club mascot is a dog)
    32AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:19
    Honestly, I think this is the biggest news of the day
    41AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:23
    Re: #36
    Yeah, that was the irregular league split into East and West divisions
    52AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:27
    Osim's smiling down from heaven too
    58AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:28
    LMAOOO it's completely empty

    9/6 (Sun) 18:00
    J1 Matchday 6
    Fukuda Denshi Arena
    Attendance: 11,316
    62AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:31
    Re: #58
    Soga's getting hit by disaster-level heavy rain again, so yeah, that's rough lol (Soga = the district where the stadium sits)
    78AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:36
    Re: #58
    But you've never even been to a baseball stadium, have you?
    81AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:37
    Re: #58
    Classic reaction from a "yakibuta" (5ch slang mocking obsessive baseball fans) getting worked up over surface-level numbers — kinda charming, honestly
    60AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:30
    With the rain, planned train suspensions have already started in Chiba — can the fans even get home?
    73AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:34
    Re: #60
    Wonder what they'll do.
    Aren't the trains suspended until tomorrow morning?
    65AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:32
    Apparently the dog on JEF's emblem is a Chihuahua
    70AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:33
    Re: #65
    No way it's some foreign breed.
    Being serious for a sec, it's probably a Shiba Inu or an Akita Inu
    72AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:33
    Re: #65
    It's an Akita Inu — a fierce dog, that one
    67AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:32
    Wait, is Gamba actually in trouble?
    69AnonymousSep 6, 2026 21:33
    Re: #67
    On the flanks, only Eli Adams was actually pulling his weight.
    They should've held onto Juan Alano

    Background and Key Points of This Story

    JEF United Chiba is remembered as a club that fought near the top of the table in the early 2000s under manager Ivica Osim, but was relegated from J1 at the end of the 2009 season and has spent most of the years since stuck in J2. The “6,132 days” making headlines now refers to the number of days since that very win late in the 2009 season — meaning, ironically, their last J1 victory came in the same season they were relegated. The thread also buzzed about Chiba’s rough start this season, five straight losses right after promotion, and opinions split on whether it was even necessary to phrase the gap in days (“did they really need to say it in days?”). Also worth noting: heavy rain caused planned train suspensions across Chiba Prefecture on the day of the match, which likely contributed to the low attendance — a detail that doesn’t fully come through from the comments alone.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Geinou/Sports News+) thread “[Soccer] JEF Chiba wins in J1 for the first time in 6,132 days (17 years)! Snaps season-opening losing streak at 5 — Yamura opens the scoring, Tsukui adds another“.

  • “Centering” and “Hooligan” Are Dead Words Now? 5ch Asks: “What Do We Even Call It Today?”

    5ch lit up over the fact that soccer commentary terms like “centering” (crossing the ball) and “hooligan,” once common in match broadcasts, are barely heard anymore. The thread kept circling back to the question “what do people call centering now?” but no one ever landed on a clear replacement term. Meanwhile, someone explained that hooligans disappeared because “ticket prices were raised to keep low-income fans out of the stadium,” which drew some surprised reactions. The discussion also branched into topics like the price of standing-room seats behind the goal in the J.League and who actually buys them.

    1AnonymousSep 6, 2026 16:42
    What's the third one?
    11AnonymousSep 6, 2026 16:45
    Side half (wide midfielder)
    16AnonymousSep 6, 2026 16:48
    "Our brand of soccer" (a slogan tied to the Zico-era Japan national team's philosophy)
    17AnonymousSep 6, 2026 16:48
    Verdy Kawasaki (the old name of Tokyo Verdy)
    18AnonymousSep 6, 2026 16:48
    Golden goal in the final ("V-Goal" = sudden-death winner)
    19AnonymousSep 6, 2026 16:48
    Fantasista (a flashy, creative playmaker)
    20AnonymousSep 6, 2026 16:49
    YOU'LL END UP LIKE ARUSHINDO! (a classic net meme mocking overexcited match commentary, referencing former J-League player Alcindo)
    22AnonymousSep 6, 2026 16:52
    Probably "side half."
    Roles are so much more specialized now that just calling someone a "side half" is too vague to really fit anymore.
    23AnonymousSep 6, 2026 16:52
    Yokohama Flügels (a defunct J-League club)
    24AnonymousSep 6, 2026 16:52
    Build-up (play)
    25AnonymousSep 6, 2026 16:54
    Re: #24
    People still use that all the time…
    26AnonymousSep 6, 2026 16:54
    Overlap (run)
    29AnonymousSep 6, 2026 16:57
    Loose ball
    30AnonymousSep 6, 2026 16:57
    Did you just say "Osim"? (former Japan coach known for cryptic quotes)
    31AnonymousSep 6, 2026 16:57
    J.League curry
    35AnonymousSep 6, 2026 16:59
    Anti-football (dull, overly defensive play)
    36AnonymousSep 6, 2026 17:00
    Dae-han-min-guk! (the famous chant for Korea from the 2002 World Cup)
    39AnonymousSep 6, 2026 17:02
    Wait, it's actually gone? Had no idea.
    40AnonymousSep 6, 2026 17:02
    Super Great Goalkeeper
    49AnonymousSep 6, 2026 17:06
    "Offside trap" is such common knowledge now that you barely even hear people say it anymore.
    59AnonymousSep 6, 2026 17:13
    On the flip side, what terms have come INTO use recently?

    "Shadow" (shadow striker)
    75AnonymousSep 6, 2026 17:27
    Re: #59
    That's been around forever.
    62AnonymousSep 6, 2026 17:15
    To the guy saying women's soccer is low level —
    at the very least, amateur men wouldn't stand a chance against them.
    Though I'm not sure even a powerhouse high school team like Aomori Yamada could beat Nadeshiko Japan or Bayern's women's side.
    64AnonymousSep 6, 2026 17:16
    Goalpost
    Centering (cross)
    Kickoff
    66AnonymousSep 6, 2026 17:20
    So what do you even call "centering" these days?
    69AnonymousSep 6, 2026 17:22
    Wait, hooligans are gone now?
    70AnonymousSep 6, 2026 17:24
    Re: #69
    Hooligans were poor, working-class fans, so they jacked up ticket prices to keep them out of the stadium.
    Can't get in, so they don't come.
    They disappear.
    72AnonymousSep 6, 2026 17:25
    Re: #70
    Whoa, TIL. Thanks.
    79AnonymousSep 6, 2026 17:33
    Re: #70
    Oh, so that's how it is.
    I thought "hooligan" was just a blanket term for rowdy soccer fans in general.
    73AnonymousSep 6, 2026 17:26
    Re: #72
    There's actually talk in the J.League too about kicking out the rough crowd that hangs around behind the goal.
    Those seats are dirt cheap.
    People say that's exactly why the casual fan base isn't growing — too many supporters buying cheap tickets and then acting like they own the place.
    103AnonymousSep 6, 2026 17:58
    Re: #73
    If you assume you're going to all 19 home games, even for a top club it works out to less than 2,000 yen a game.
    81AnonymousSep 6, 2026 17:36
    Nabisco Cup
    Tarami All-Star Game (old sponsor names for the League Cup and All-Star match)
    82AnonymousSep 6, 2026 17:36
    Looking back, "suicide goal" (own goal) was a pretty savage term when you think about it.
    90AnonymousSep 6, 2026 17:41
    The Devil's Left Foot / Lefty Monster / The Golden Left
    91AnonymousSep 6, 2026 17:41
    GOL GOL GOL GOL GOOOOOAL!
    94AnonymousSep 6, 2026 17:44
    So what's "centering" called these days?
    96AnonymousSep 6, 2026 17:45
    Re: #94
    How many times are you gonna ask that?
    101AnonymousSep 6, 2026 17:57
    Back in the day everyone said "direct, direct!" but now all you hear is "one-touch."
    106AnonymousSep 6, 2026 18:01
    I want any commentator who says "near side" but then calls the other side the "far side" instead of "far post" to just die.
    And I mean the most gruesome death imaginable.
    108AnonymousSep 6, 2026 18:09
    Re: #106
    What a pain…
    113AnonymousSep 6, 2026 18:11
    Re: #103
    Well, for top clubs regular seats start at a minimum of around 5,000 yen, though it's not that different if you're talking about some regional J3 club.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The shift from “centering” to “crossing” is believed to have spread gradually through match broadcasts and analysis sometime after the 2000s, but there’s no clear line marking exactly when the switch happened — even in the thread, the question “what do you call it now” kept coming up without ever being answered. The hooligan problem became a major social issue in England in the 1980s, and following tragedies like the 1989 Hillsborough disaster, measures such as all-seater stadiums, CCTV surveillance, and stricter entry controls were introduced alongside higher ticket prices, which made it harder for lower-income fans to attend — a factor often cited in the decline. The thread’s explanation that “they don’t come because they can’t get in” is true as far as it goes, but it’s only one part of a broader set of measures including tightened security and club-led countermeasures; it’s a common misconception that hooligans themselves vanished from the world entirely. The discussion of the J.League’s cheap standing-room seats behind the goal and who buys them is a separate, Japan-specific topic unrelated to anti-hooligan measures abroad.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Nandemo Jikkyou G) thread “The Three Great Dead Soccer Terms: “Centering” and “Hooligan”.”

  • How Can We Ever Trust Square Enix Again? 5ch Weighs In: ‘Simple — Just Stop Lying and Cheating Customers’

    A thread titled “What would it take for you guys to trust Square Enix again?” popped up on the Game Hardware & Industry board (Geha), sparked by a rumor — floated by self-described FF14 faithful — that director Naoki Yoshida might become the company’s next president. Posters called for basic honesty like “don’t lie” and “don’t cheat your customers,” alongside gripes about FF16’s PS5-exclusive launch, the lack of an upgrade path for owners of older versions, and the endless remake cash grabs. At the same time, some voiced skepticism about whether Yoshida — a creator at heart — could really run a major corporation as its top executive, leaving opinion in the thread split.

    1AnonymousSep 5, 2026 11:58
    Yep
    8AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:03
    Simple: don't lie, don't cheat your customers
    10AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:05
    Go ahead, make Yoshida president and finish the job
    59AnonymousSep 5, 2026 13:00
    Re: #10
    Either exile Yoshida, or he ends up as another Bigmotor Conan-kun lol (the eerily cheerful mascot statue that became a symbol of the Bigmotor insurance-fraud scandal)
    12AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:10
    Ghost-town FF14, quit dragging DQ10 down any further
    13AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:10
    Just split up the IPs and call it done — that's probably what 3D Investment is planning anyway, they're already within 1% of becoming the top shareholder
    14AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:13
    A genuinely sincere company wouldn't need to put up 'let's be sincere' as a corporate goal in the first place
    64AnonymousSep 5, 2026 13:20
    Re: #14
    'Reach people's hearts'
    (Quit the self-indulgent navel-gazing — if a game doesn't actually strike a chord with consumers, it won't sell and nobody'll enjoy it)

    'Challenge with all your might'
    (Stop half-assing it and dumping your own work on subordinates or subcontractors)

    'Be a swift pioneer'
    (Stop chasing trends and start making the next trend with your own head — chasing trends is exactly how the mighty FF ended up getting mocked by a French indie-made command RPG)

    'Elevate each other'
    (Stop working with the arrogant, self-righteous mindset that your opinion is absolute, that you're right and everyone else is wrong)

    'Keep evolving'
    (Stop clinging to past glories, past achievements, past successes — even FF is in danger of falling apart)

    'Be sincere'
    (Stop saying and doing things meant to deceive management or consumers — stop claiming things 'can't be done without PlayStation')

    These are literally the company's stated Values, so what they're really saying is: change the mindset you've had ever since the PlayStation-first era
    15AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:13
    Don't go bootlicking the Switch 2 — go down with the PS5 like you committed to
    16AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:14
    Make a few games outside of FF and Dragon Quest that actually make people want to buy them
    I'm sick to death of both FF and Dragon Quest at this point
    17AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:15
    Sure, there's the Builders sequel that never happened, the garbage rewrite of FFT's dialogue, the FF14 mobile flop, and plenty of other failures,
    but FF16 is still the biggest one — they trashed FF15 nonstop while making it, then it flopped hard
    and it's even dragging down whatever FF17 might exist someday
    19AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:16
    After 3D Investment breaks the company up, Nintendo will probably scoop up DQ10, but nobody's gonna want deadweight FF14
    20AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:17
    FF16 only flopped because it launched exclusive to that garbage hardware called the PS5, that's literally it
    22AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:18
    The Switch 2 version of FFT didn't even come with a real key card — they fobbed people off with a piece of paper instead
    23AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:18
    What exactly did Yoshida say to trash-talk FF15?
    25AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:21
    Those fanboys swinging their pathetic 'FF14 stick' (slang for using FF14's success as a bragging weapon against other games) at everyone in every direction were so obnoxious it basically became negative PR by itself
    26AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:21
    Excessive expectations count as harassment, so no comment
    29AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:25
    Shirogane's next one is basically guaranteed to bomb too, but Yoshida will skate by scot-free until retirement
    30AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:26
    Apparently if you crack a dirty joke during a DQ10 stream your channel gets nuked by YouTube — guess this is the curse of that CERO:A rating (Japan's "all ages" content rating)…
    https://krsw.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/ghard/1788577597/
    32AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:28
    At this point the only ones who still don't trust them are cockroaches 🪳
    33AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:28
    Cut it out with the remake cash-grabs
    Put those resources into new titles instead
    34AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:29
    If 3D Investment becomes the top shareholder, I bet the corporate strategy changes drastically
    35AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:29
    Yoshida's the one holding up Square Enix right now anyway
    Even the president bothers to personally show up at overseas fan festivals for him, so he's safe
    42AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:36
    Re: #35
    Time to wake up from that fantasy
    37AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:32
    Completely cut ties with their obsession over fossilized IPs and every ounce of arrogance built up over the years
    Start fresh with the resolve of launching a brand-new studio, and make a proper game that actually matches modern quality and sensibilities

    Though realistically, given their culture and talent pool, neither is happening
    84AnonymousSep 5, 2026 16:26
    Re: #37
    Do that and all you'll be left with is stuff like Left Alive or Balan Wonderworld
    Though honestly, if the alternative is mangling their once-great IPs into unrecognizable garbage and getting mocked for it, maybe a Balan is the better option
    47AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:42
    Square Enix is still holding Chrono Trigger and Xenogears hostage
    69AnonymousSep 5, 2026 13:45
    Re: #47
    They were masterpieces back in real time, but if they dropped now, you'd probably have more fun with a decent indie game instead
    53AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:52
    If only they'd release an offline version of FF11
    77AnonymousSep 5, 2026 13:57
    Re: #53
    If they actually put that out, I'd switch to Team Support too
    54AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:54
    No upgrade path support, forcing people to rebuy at full price — that alone makes it a no-go
    That's basically a cancer on the industry
    79AnonymousSep 5, 2026 14:29
    Re: #54
    'Be sincere'
    57AnonymousSep 5, 2026 12:59
    Square Enix's presidents have always come up through finance
    People from the development side only ever make it as far as VP
    74AnonymousSep 5, 2026 13:55
    Re: #57
    A lot of idiots get this wrong, but being president is a job about running the company
    You don't need any talent or skill as a game creator for that role
    you just have other people who are good at making games actually make them

    When you think about whether Yoshida could actually run a company the size of Square Enix, it's pretty normal to conclude that quitting creative work to become a full-time executive just wouldn't work

    Maybe it'd be fine if he's just a figurehead-slash-mascot for PR while the real authority goes to someone who actually knows finance
    66AnonymousSep 5, 2026 13:32
    The only Square Enix team I still trust is the Paranormasight team
    67AnonymousSep 5, 2026 13:33
    Re: #66
    That's got the same DNA as RebeSaga (fan nickname for a SaGa-series title)
    It's not Square Enix that's great, it's just that the outsourced developer is…
    92AnonymousSep 5, 2026 17:10
    Ditch Dragon Quest and FF entirely, and put out one genuinely fun game after another
    Do that much, and maybe trust starts coming back
    93AnonymousSep 5, 2026 17:15
    Re: #92
    Users pick it up precisely because the DQ or FF name is attached
    If 'just being fun' were enough to sell, there'd be tons of independent creators out there who'd struck it big on their own

    Since that's not the case, you see plenty of 'where'd they go after going independent, and now they're struggling' stories
    Even Kojima has struggled, and he was basically king back in Konami's MGS heyday

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The distrust surrounding Square Enix has built up over time, driven by FF16’s underwhelming PS5-exclusive launch, the business practice of forcing owners of older titles to rebuy at full price due to the lack of upgrade-path support, and frustration with the flood of remakes and ports. Where the thread split was on whether Naoki Yoshida — credited with turning FF14 around — is actually the right fit for “next president.” Some pointed out (posts 57 and 74) that the presidency at a Japanese company is fundamentally about overseeing management and finance, a different skill set entirely from development chops, while others voiced support out of sheer expectation for a marquee creator. It’s also worth noting that the claim of “Yoshida as next president” is itself framed within the thread as an unconfirmed rumor, not an official announcement.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Hardware & Industry / Geha) thread “[Sincerity] What would it take for you guys to trust Square Enix again? FF14 faithful say Yoshida is next in line for president“.