Category: Society

  • Rice provisional prices plunge 30-40% across Tohoku — 5ch: ‘No reason to go back to rice’

    Provisional purchase prices for 2026-harvest rice (per 60kg, grade 1), announced by JA Zen-Noh’s Tohoku prefectural chapters, have fallen 30-40% from the previous year for major brands, returning to roughly 2024-harvest levels. The drop comes as unsold 2025-harvest rice stockpiles have built up nationwide, and prices could fall further. On 5ch, voices blaming agricultural policy and JA’s supply control for driving prices up and then crashing them mixed with consumers who switched to wheat and pasta during the price spike now saying “there’s no reason to go back to rice” — opinions split over next year’s production levels and the ongoing shift away from rice.

    Provisional prices for 2026-harvest rice (per 60kg, grade 1) — the advance payments that JA Zen-Noh’s Tohoku prefectural chapters make to local JA co-ops — are now all in. Major brands fell 30-40% from 2025-harvest levels, landing roughly back at 2024-harvest prices. The backdrop is a nationwide buildup of unsold 2025-harvest rice stock. Rice prices are expected to fall further, and a hit to producers’ finances looks unavoidable.

    The provisional prices for major brands announced by each prefectural chapter are shown in the table.

    Most brands now sit in the ¥17,000 range — a stark reversal from the roughly ¥30,000 seen for 2025-harvest rice.

    Source: kahoku.news / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 20, 2026 07:52
    Hokkaido: 5.04 million
    Tohoku: 8.21 million
    Kanto: 43.57 million
    Koshinetsu: 5.05 million
    Tokai: 14.70 million
    Hokuriku: 2.92 million
    Kansai: 20.18 million
    Chugoku: 7.60 million
    Shikoku: 3.63 million
    Kyushu: 12.50 million
    Okinawa: 1.47 million
    10AnonymousSep 20, 2026 07:59
    I mean, the number of stomachs in Japan hasn't changed
    but on top of hoarding stock by refusing to sell, they basically told people 'eat something else if you don't like it' and handed the market over to competitors.
    192AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:56
    Re: #10
    I've fully switched to flour, pasta, oatmeal, and occasionally pearl barley.
    I don't even bother keeping space around for storing rice grains anymore.
    12AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:00
    Once we get through this, production will drop next year
    and domestic rice will fetch high prices again.
    66AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:42
    Re: #12
    It won't drop that much.

    If anything, with the rice-acreage-reduction policy scrapped,
    output should rise at a steady clip.
    JA's middleman wholesalers overplayed their hand
    and ticked off PM Takaichi.
    96AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:57
    Re: #12
    No way.
    If prices spike again, the shift away from rice only accelerates.
    JA's rice farming model is already finished.
    Both the public and restaurants are saying no to it now.
    Udon, pasta, bread, and imported rice will keep gaining ground.
    195AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:58
    Re: #12
    If they don't cut acreage, prices will just keep crashing harder.
    People got fed up with how rotten the rice industry is and thought 'there are plenty of other carbs!' and switched — and once you've done that, you realize there's no real reason to go back to rice.
    18AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:04
    Are Japanese people just clueless about economics?
    103AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:00
    Re: #18
    Take the hint — not a single Japanese person has ever won the Nobel Prize in Economics.
    19AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:05
    It's not the rice farmers who are at fault — it's JA, which bought up all the 'Etō rice' (rice tied to then-farm minister Etō's policy).
    That's when the tide turned.
    30AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:10
    Re: #19
    If a contract doesn't even name a price and just says 'in principle, we'll buy back the same amount within a year,' then JA is the only one who'll bid on that.
    It's less that they 'bought it all up' and more that Etō and JA teamed up to control supply — which kept the pricey 2025-harvest rice they'd bought at high provisional prices from crashing.
    22AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:07
    Even with this drop, it's just back to where it was two years ago
    so in the end it was just a spike that came back down
    and because of that spike, producers can no longer absorb their rising costs
    agricultural policy has just been incompetent
    if they'd kept prices from swinging so wildly, they could've managed a gentle rise instead
    next year's going to be brutal from the backlash
    51AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:27
    Re: #22
    Pretty good odds that by next year's new-crop rice, cries of 'too expensive' will only get louder
    and rice culture keeps eroding.
    182AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:52
    Re: #22
    Exactly this.
    TV and the rest of mass media keep saying prices 'fell,' but they're comparing to the peak of the price spike — of course it looks that way.
    24AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:07
    Next year the shift away from rice will probably go even further and consumption will keep dropping.
    34AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:14
    Re: #24
    Wheat prices are up this year,
    so like in 2024 when rice looked relatively cheap by comparison, rice consumption this year will probably rise.
    The problem is on the supply side — production costs are climbing but prices aren't.
    I bet output drops sharply next year.
    Who knows what happens then.
    37AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:16
    I wonder what the real endgame here is.

    Beat down JA and rice farmers until they say 'can't keep this up, we're quitting' — does it end in consolidation into large-scale corporate farming, or does a lack of flat farmland keep companies from moving in, leading instead to mass imports of California rice?
    44AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:21
    Re: #37
    If scrapping tariffs means cheaper imported rice, that's great news for consumers!
    47AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:23
    In the end, last year too it was just lousy speculator-scalpers hoarding stock, but the idiots at the farm ministry kept chanting 'fair price! fair price!' and ended up helping the scalpers along.
    Handing the country's staple food over to speculators — that's basically a nation of barbarians at this point.
    49AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:26
    Re: #47
    I bet they made a killing off political donations.
    189AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:56
    Re: #47
    'Protecting the farmers' was just a smokescreen slogan.
    52AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:28
    The average age of rice farmers is 70,
    so give it ten years and they'll basically be wiped out.
    54AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:29
    Re: #52
    This is exactly the moment I'd like to see them quit farming.
    56AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:31
    Why isn't anyone comparing this to 2023 or 2024?
    59AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:34
    Re: #56
    Compared to those years, I'd say it's still more than 30% higher.
    63AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:39
    Ishiba, who told them to increase production without ever solving the problem of the farmers who'd already stopped growing rice.
    65AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:41
    Re: #63
    Couldn't be helped back then, there was an election coming up. If there hadn't been an election, he wouldn't have brought up the 'elephant' either.
    72AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:46
    Re: #63
    There's no time,
    and production can't ramp up quickly anyway,
    so alongside pushing to increase output,
    (farm minister) Shinjiro released the reserve stockpile,

    and as a result, rice finally started moving again.
    76AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:49
    Japan doesn't need farmers
    — importing is cheaper.
    79AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:51
    Re: #76
    Well, from the perspective of ordinary consumers who are stuck buying pricey produce because of tariffs put up for farmers' sake, farmers playing the victim is honestly grating.
    160AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:31
    Whenever people talk agriculture it's rice, rice, rice, but rice makes up only 16% of total agricultural output.
    Japan's serious farmers make their money off livestock, vegetables, and fruit.
    Rice farmers are just numerous — mostly tiny-scale, weekend-only part-timers.
    What's needed is a policy that pushes these inefficient part-time farmers out of the business.
    173AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:43
    Re: #160
    Livestock farming isn't exactly 'serious' either —
    it basically runs on tax money.
    Huge facilities, huge machinery, all subsidized.
    They get equipment bought outright with tax money that even big commercial farmers elsewhere don't have.
    191AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:56
    Re: #160
    It's precisely because things got more efficient that people can go work outside farming lol

    Feels like you've mixed up a bunch of unrelated info and landed on a weird conclusion, no? lol

    Background and key points of this debate

    The “Reiwa Rice Riot” refers to the string of turmoil in which retail rice prices spiked sharply through 2024-25, triggered by quality declines from summer heat starting with the 2023 harvest and by clogs in distribution. Provisional prices are the tentative buying prices JA pays producers in advance of final settlement, and serve as a gauge of that year’s market sentiment. This time’s “30-40% drop” is measured only against the inflated 2025-harvest prices — as some thread posters pointed out, the current level is actually close to 2023-24 harvest prices. Opinions split over whether to pin the blame for the price swings on JA and agricultural policy’s supply control, or on the structural shift of consumers away from rice; but on the point that farmers face rising production costs without a matching rise in sale prices, posters across the divide largely agreed in voicing concern about what’s ahead.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “[Rice] 2026-harvest provisional prices down 30-40% across Tohoku — driven by inventory levels and the fallout from the “Reiwa Rice Riot”.”

  • Consumption Tax Cut Splits Energy Drinks: Red Bull Drops to 1%, Lipovitan D Stuck at 10% — 5ch: “Guess You Just Eat It Now”

    On September 19, the Nikkei reported that under the planned consumption tax cut, Red Bull—classified as a soft drink—would see its tax rate drop to 1%, while energy drinks classified as quasi-pharmaceuticals, such as Lipovitan D, would remain at 10%. The headline centers on how two products both marketed as “energy drinks” end up on opposite sides of the tax line depending on whether they’re categorized as “food.” On 5ch, the thread turned into a broader chat about familiar energy drinks, touching on how Oronamin C once shed its pharmaceutical-like classification by adding carbonation—letting it be sold outside pharmacies—and claims that Red Bull’s Japanese formula differs from its overseas version.

    Consumption Tax Cut: Red Bull at 1%, but Lipovitan D Stays at 10% — Gap Hinges on “Food” Classification – Nikkei

    September 19, 2026, 5:00 AM

    [Subscriber-only article]

    Source: nikkei.com / Original article here

    5AnonymousSep 19, 2026 14:54
    The Ministry of Health says if you add carbonation, it counts as a beverage. Oronamin C used that loophole to get sold outside pharmacies and rode it to market dominance.
    63AnonymousSep 19, 2026 15:37
    Re: #5
    Wait, could Oronamin C even have qualified as a pharmaceutical with those ingredients? Maybe that flew 60 years ago.
    7AnonymousSep 19, 2026 14:55
    What tax rate does the newspaper get, lol
    66AnonymousSep 19, 2026 15:40
    Re: #7
    If you eat it, it's 1%
    195AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:08
    Re: #7
    Totally forgot about the newspaper's tax rate. If groceries drop to 1%, that makes three different tax rates in play.
    9AnonymousSep 19, 2026 14:55
    Re: #1
    Consumption tax is a mechanism for spreading the burden of social security spending—which eats up more than half the national budget—across everyone, not just the working generation.

    In other words, cutting consumption tax just shifts that heavy social security burden back onto the working generation alone.

    If you're going to cut consumption tax, you need to cut social security spending itself, or the burden on working people won't actually go down.
    121AnonymousSep 19, 2026 16:27
    Re: #9
    They're skimming 10% off every sale, so the ones really footing the bill are workers.
    180AnonymousSep 19, 2026 19:27
    Re: #9
    Consumption tax is really a policy for handing massive tax breaks to big export-focused corporations lol
    Every time consumption tax goes up, corporate tax quietly gets cut lol. Back in the Showa era the corporate tax rate was around 50%, but since consumption tax was introduced it's been cut down to about 30% lol

    It's a bullying tax system that targets the huge number of small and mid-sized businesses that only sell domestically (you owe it even if you're running a loss), and of course we regular consumers end up shouldering it indirectly too, since it gets passed on to us as higher prices.

    The big export-focused corporations skim off about 12 trillion yen a year in "consumption tax refunds" from the roughly 30-odd trillion yen in total consumption tax revenue paid by all those domestic-only small and mid-sized businesses lol

    And then the remaining 20-odd trillion yen a year is what gets announced as "consumption tax revenue" lol
    15AnonymousSep 19, 2026 14:58
    True, if there were carbonated versions of Yunker or Lipovitan, they'd probably go down a lot easier.
    97AnonymousSep 19, 2026 16:04
    Re: #15
    Reminds me of the old Oronamin C commercial where Kon Omura mixed it with a raw egg.
    99AnonymousSep 19, 2026 16:05
    Re: #97
    How old even are you, grandpa? Same age as him or something?
    196AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:22
    Re: #97
    Don't know about that, but there was a home-visit TV show when he was 91 that showed Kon Omura's house still gets a year's supply of Oronamin C delivered every year.
    16AnonymousSep 19, 2026 14:59
    Foolish masses, getting distracted from the real argument—abolishing consumption tax entirely—by this ridiculous sideshow.
    75AnonymousSep 19, 2026 15:44
    Re: #16
    A bad tax like this should just be scrapped, period. It's really a sales tax hiding under the fake name "consumption tax." (´・ω・`)
    34AnonymousSep 19, 2026 15:14
    A time-limited cut that only applies to some items is asking for trouble.
    If you're gonna do it, just make it a flat 5% or 3% across the board.
    That way you could even scrap the invoice system too.
    90AnonymousSep 19, 2026 15:58
    Re: #34
    Which idiot came up with the invoice system anyway? I honestly think it's a garbage system.
    123AnonymousSep 19, 2026 16:28
    Re: #34
    The whole point of the invoice system is to keep export tax refunds from being classified as subsidies, so tweaking the tax rate won't make it go away.

    Scrapping it is the only option.
    40AnonymousSep 19, 2026 15:21
    Are there actually people out there complaining about that?
    49AnonymousSep 19, 2026 15:28
    Re: #40
    Businesses that lose out from it complain, and their complaints are legitimate both legally and politically.
    43AnonymousSep 19, 2026 15:25
    Had to laugh that block ice counts as a food item—I've just been using mine as an ice pack.
    50AnonymousSep 19, 2026 15:29
    Re: #43
    Okay, that's a pretty extravagant way to use it. I just use those frozen gel packs that come free with ice cream for that.
    44AnonymousSep 19, 2026 15:26
    A lot of people don't realize Japanese Red Bull has a different formula from the overseas version. The Japan one is a knockoff that doesn't even contain taurine.
    119AnonymousSep 19, 2026 16:25
    Re: #44
    Come to think of it, the old Japan-market Red Bull had the same caffeine content per can whether it was the 250ml or 355ml size…
    Why bother with the hassle of a different formula (well, different concentration) for no real reason? (Apparently they're the same now?)
    47AnonymousSep 19, 2026 15:27
    Yunker and Zena are made with herbal medicine—they warm you up if you drink them in winter, but they taste awful.
    Aspara Drink has an apple flavor, so it tastes a bit different from other energy drinks?
    Chiobita is on the sour side.
    Gronsan is insanely sweet, never drinking that again.
    58AnonymousSep 19, 2026 15:35
    Re: #47
    Did "24-Hour Regain" disappear at some point?
    55AnonymousSep 19, 2026 15:34
    If you're drinking energy drinks just for the caffeine, caffeine pills are way more cost-effective.
    61AnonymousSep 19, 2026 15:36
    Re: #55
    Pills just make you feel queasy and don't really do anything, right? Honestly, when you're sleepy, sleeping is the cheapest fix anyway.
    65AnonymousSep 19, 2026 15:39
    Re: #55
    It's not just caffeine though—there's a bunch of other stuff in there, plus calories.
    96AnonymousSep 19, 2026 16:03
    Which one's actually stronger, Monster or Red Bull?
    115AnonymousSep 19, 2026 16:23
    Re: #96
    Go with Monster.

    It's got medicinal ginseng in it, which cancels out caffeine's side effects.
    124AnonymousSep 19, 2026 16:31
    Re: #96 It's Zone.
    145AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:06
    McDonald's should get creative too and figure out how to get down to 1%.
    150AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:21
    Re: #145
    Isn't takeout already 1%? Or is this time different?
    158AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:41
    Re: #145
    The McDonald's move is to "get creative" and just keep the price the same anyway.
    148AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:13
    Stuff like Lipovitan D, the little brown bottles, is cheaper and actually works, but for some reason young people mostly drink canned stuff like Monster. Even though it's worse value…
    149AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:19
    Re: #148
    Serves you right, old man lol
    152AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:23
    Re: #148
    They just want a massive dose of caffeine. The real comparison isn't Lipovitan, it's Min-Min Break (a popular caffeine-shot brand).
    156AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:32
    Re: #148
    It's basically juice—caffeinated juice. And there's a lot of flavor variety too.

    Background and Key Points

    Japan’s consumption tax includes a reduced-rate system that has applied a lower rate to food and beverages—excluding alcohol and pharmaceuticals/quasi-pharmaceuticals—since it was introduced in 2019. Many energy drinks are sold as “quasi-pharmaceuticals,” putting them outside the reduced rate, while carbonated drinks like Red Bull are treated as soft drinks—i.e., “food”—and so qualify for the lower rate. That institutional quirk is once again the focus here. The thread mostly ran on the oddity of this classification and nostalgic chat about energy drinks, though some posters raised long-standing arguments about the merits of the consumption tax itself and export tax refunds. Since the full article is subscriber-only, it’s worth noting that the headline alone doesn’t make clear exactly how far the tax rate will drop under this cut or the precise scope of what’s covered.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “Consumption Tax Cut: Red Bull at 1%, but Lipovitan D Stays at 10% — Gap Hinges on ‘Food’ Classification.”

  • Fujisawa’s Kugenuma Named Japan’s #1 ‘Neighborhood People Want to Keep Living In’ — 5ch: ‘Isn’t This Just a Realtor’s Wish List?’

    News that Kugenuma Station on the Enoshima Electric Railway in Fujisawa, Kanagawa Prefecture, took the top spot for the first time in Recruit’s “2026 Neighborhoods You Want to Keep Living In Ranking (Tokyo Metro Area Edition)” — based on data from the real estate site SUUMO, which Recruit operates — became a hot topic on 5ch. Shibuya Ward also placed near the top in the same ranking, but on the thread, a skeptical take along the lines of “Isn’t this really just a ranking of properties realtors want to sell?” quickly gained traction, sparking arguments over what Kugenuma is actually like and whether popularity is shifting from Shonan toward Atsugi and Ebina.

    In the “2026 Neighborhoods You Want to Keep Living In Ranking (Tokyo Metro Area Edition)” conducted by Recruit, which runs the real estate information site SUUMO, “Kugenuma” (on the Enoshima Electric Railway) in Fujisawa, Kanagawa Prefecture, took the top spot for the first time.

    Kugenuma is one of the tourist spots in the Shonan area. Among the neighborhood’s appealing qualities, items like “I feel attached to what makes this town unique” and “Living here gives me a sense of purpose” ranked highly.

    ◇Kugenuma: “A lively area”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:06
    Sounds more like a ranking of neighborhoods stuffed with properties realtors are desperate to unload.
    48AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:30
    Re: #4
    Has to be it lol
    23AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:17
    It's Southern All Stars territory. (the legendary J-rock band associated with the Shonan coast)
    26AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:18
    Re: #23
    Southern All Stars are from Chigasaki, so that's not it.
    29AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:21
    Shibuya's going downhill fast — even Tower Records and Loft look like they're on the way out.
    47AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:30
    Re: #29
    Are those places even that essential these days?
    50AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:30
    Re: #29
    Tower Records and Loft lol
    68AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:39
    Who'd actually want to live in Sendagaya? There's nothing there.
    89AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:49
    Re: #68

    There's Hope-ken! (a famous local ramen shop)
    95AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:51
    Re: #68
    There's the skating rink.
    100AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:55
    Re: #68
    It's close to Kitasando, Killer Street, Aoyama, and Harajuku. A quick bus ride and you're in Azabu/Hiroo too. Surprisingly stylish and quiet neighborhood.
    72AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:43
    Where does Yukigaya-otsuka rank?!
    79AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:44
    Re: #72
    That neighborhood's kind of sketchy though.
    93AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:49
    Re: #72
    You still catch that station-slope commercial once in a while, so it must be popular. (a well-known ad filmed on the hill in front of the station)
    91AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:49
    If I could, I'd want to keep living in Ginza or Nihonbashi.
    98AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:53
    Re: #91

    Not many convenience stores or vending machines around there — actually pretty inconvenient to live in.
    96AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:51
    It's just a survey about the Tokyo area anyway, right? Honestly none of it appeals to me — that's how it looks from outside. ("Tonkin" is a mocking nickname for Tokyo used by people from elsewhere in Japan)
    99AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:54
    Re: #96
    And yet here you are, checking out a thread about the Tokyo metro area anyway.
    97AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:52
    I read it as "Help! Kugenuma won't sell!" — well, can't be helped I guess.
    102AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:56
    Re: #97

    Isn't it about time you graduated from the "5ch fan theory" that popular-neighborhood rankings are secretly just realtors' wish lists?
    115AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:00
    Re: #102
    Popularity's actually shifting to Atsugi and Ebina, and Shonan properties aren't moving. Time to educate yourself.
    117AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:02
    Re: #115

    Huh? Places like Atsugi and Ebina are packed with rundown apartments the moment you step away from the station.
    123AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:03
    Re: #117
    Go see it for yourself lol. There's a massive development area right by the station now — no rundown apartments left lol. You sure you're not thinking of the Sagami Line? lol
    126AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:04
    Re: #123

    That's exactly why I said "the moment you step away from the station."
    137AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:07
    Re: #126
    Shinjuku and Ikebukuro are also packed with rundown apartments once you get a bit away from the station lol
    135AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:07
    Fujisawa maybe, but Kugenuma? No way, seriously. Back in the day it was more the kind of area where poor people lived.
    142AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:09
    Re: #135
    Is that from before the mansion district went up?
    146AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:11
    Re: #135

    A friend of mine who lives in Kugenuma pointed out manga artist Yuujin's house — an over-the-top, Greek-style mansion kind of like Yukio Mishima's place. The late Nagisa Oshima's house (where his widow, actress Akiko Koyama, still lives) was an old-fashioned Japanese-style home.
    159AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:23
    Re: #106
    I got sick of the brainwashy ads plastered inside Tokyu trains and the surprisingly low caliber of the residents, so I escaped to eastern Tokyo. ("TQ" is shorthand for the Tokyu railway, from its station-code prefix)
    160AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:25
    Re: #159
    Tokyu trains are nice and clean. Back when I lived along the Tobu line, I really appreciated that. Tobu trains look grubby even brand new.
    173AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:31
    Re: #160
    Even with the same level of crowding, you can tell people's manners by whether they make way for others getting on and off. The Saikyo Line is literally the worst — it's like a cattle car.
    177AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:32
    Re: #173
    Seriously, a train line really tells you a lot about the manners of the people living along it.
    179AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:33
    Re: #173
    Is the Saikyo Line about the only one with security cameras as standard equipment?

    Background and Points of Contention

    SUUMO’s “Neighborhoods You Want to Keep Living In Ranking” is a satisfaction survey of people who actually live in each area — a different sample from the more familiar “Neighborhoods You Want to Live In Ranking” (an open popularity poll, regardless of where respondents currently live). Because this distinction doesn’t come across easily, skeptical reactions along the lines of “Isn’t this just a promotional ranking for real estate companies?” have become a 5ch staple every time the results come out, and this time too, the first comment along those lines quickly drew agreement. Where the thread split was over how popular the Shonan area actually is: claims that popularity is shifting toward inland redevelopment areas like Atsugi and Ebina drew pushback from posters who said they knew the areas firsthand. Views on Shibuya were similarly divided — some pointed to changes among commercial facilities around Shibuya Station as proof it has “gone downhill,” while others argued the district as a whole remains highly popular, a gap that comes down to how narrowly or broadly people define “Shibuya” and is easy to miss from the original article alone.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “‘Neighborhoods You Want to Keep Living In’ Tokyo Metro Area Ranking #1 Is ‘Kugenuma’ — Shibuya Ward Also Highly Popular.”

  • 1 in 16 Salaried Workers Earns ¥10 Million a Year — 5ch: “Normal Effort Gets You There”

    A survey showing that 6.2% of salaried workers — roughly 1 in 16 — earn more than ¥10 million a year was featured on 5ch’s News Speed+ board. Looked at by household income instead, the share rises to 13.8%, or about 1 in 7 households. Thread comments pushed back on how to read the statistics, with some saying “that’s way lower than it feels” and others noting that “in reality, the ¥10-million-plus bracket is concentrated in big cities and large companies — they’re not evenly spread across ordinary workplaces.” Opinion also split on just how hard ¥10 million is to reach, with some saying “you’ll get there with normal effort” and others countering “it’s not that easy.”

    (omitted)

    [Annual Income ¥10 Million] 1 in 16 Salaried Workers

    First, let’s check how many people individually earn more than ¥10 million a year in salary.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    5AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:58
    Guess there really are that many people worth 10 million times more than me 🥺 ("ワイ" is slangy Kansai-style for "me")
    38AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:18
    Re: #5
    The yen's just turned into scrap paper — today's ¥10 million is probably worth about what ¥6 million was 30 years ago.
    142AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:00
    Re: #5
    0 × ¥10 million is still 0, you know? (jab implying the previous poster earns nothing)
    16AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:05
    You lot making ¥3 million lmaooo
    20AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:07
    Re: #16
    It's not like you're some high school dropout or something
    169AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:07
    Re: #16
    Everyone on 5ch makes ¥10 million-plus, obviously
    19AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:07
    There's no way 6% of employed workers earn ¥10 million or more.
    What's the trick here?
    Feels like there's some sleight of hand in how they define "salaried worker."
    206AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:19
    Re: #19
    You're just living at the bottom of society — out in the real world, people clearing ¥10 million aren't rare at all.
    Every single house in my subdivision is definitely over ¥10 million.
    27AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:10
    Meanwhile the average income in America is over ¥10 million when converted to yen.
    Rough being from a poor country.
    29AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:12
    Re: #27
    But prices there are more than 3x higher too.
    60AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:29
    > As a ratio, that's roughly 1 in 16. Picture 16 people working on the same floor — one of them would be in that bracket.
    In reality, people earning ¥10 million are clustered together, so
    someone on ¥4 million and someone on ¥10 million aren't working on the same floor.
    63AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:31
    Re: #60
    What a sloppy article, honestly.
    If anything it's concentrated in cities over rural areas, and even within cities, concentrated at big corporations.
    114AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:52
    Re: #60
    Nah, it actually happens.
    At big companies that use staffing agencies, the income gap within the same floor can be huge.
    103AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:48
    Re: #102
    That's not calculated from listed-company average wages though.
    104AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:49
    Re: #103
    If you're gonna say it's not from that, then show the data and say so.
    108AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:50
    Re: #104
    If you want a source, back up your own claim first.
    If you don't know, just Google the National Personnel Authority — it comes up instantly. Go check how many employees the surveyed workplaces have.
    115AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:52
    Re: #108
    I'm the one saying "from listed companies," and you're the one saying "it's not," right?
    Anyone can just say "it's not" —
    that's all talk.
    116AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:53
    Re: #108
    How many employees minimum? At least a few thousand, right?
    124AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:55
    Re: #115
    Here you go.
    Even a kid can pull up public government info — do your homework before criticizing, it's embarrassing.
    You don't seem capable of reading primary sources, so I'll link something easy to understand instead.
    https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/politics/20250325-OYT1T50020/
    129AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:56
    Re: #124
    Links could have viruses, so can you just type it out instead?
    130AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:56
    Re: #129
    I'm not that nice — Google it yourself.
    134AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:58
    Re: #130
    The government's data gets manipulated all the time, you know.
    Can't be trusted.
    Do you actually trust it?
    How many times has data been falsified so far?
    144AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:01
    Re: #130
    Say an acquaintance of yours committed theft.
    No matter how many years pass, people would still say "that guy's a thief."
    Even if they don't say it out loud, they wouldn't trust him again.
    That's the same idea.
    137AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:00
    Re: #134
    LOL.
    You're the one who demanded data, and now you won't be satisfied unless I psychically guess which data source you'll approve of?
    147AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:02
    Re: #137
    How many times has the government falsified data?
    149AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:02
    Re: #147
    Dunno.
    Do you know the answer?
    162AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:05
    Re: #149
    For example —
    say you committed theft once.
    Would the people around you trust you afterward?
    146AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:01
    Re: #144
    Seriously don't get it.
    153AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:03
    Re: #146
    If you don't get that, you don't understand human nature — guess we can't have a deep conversation.
    175AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:09
    I think you can hit ¥10 million just by putting in normal effort though
    190AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:13
    Re: #184
    Even blue-collar work like construction can easily clear ¥10 million these days.
    Depends on your effort.
    193AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:15
    Re: #190
    That's a lie.
    216AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:23
    My parents and relatives are rich so I just live as an unemployed part-timer, but
    since I get to spend every yen I make, I'm slowly getting bored of spending.
    223AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:27
    Re: #216
    So you're not even allowed to get involved in your family's business — that's a pretty sad position to be in.

    Background and Key Points

    The original article appears to be based on individual salaried-worker figures drawn from the National Tax Agency’s “Statistical Survey of Actual Status for Salary in the Private Sector” or similar data. The 6.2% (1 in 16) figure is purely a ratio among salaried workers as a whole, and differs in both population and methodology from the 13.8% (1 in 7 households) figure calculated on a household basis. Household income tends to come out higher because it combines multiple earners’ income, such as dual-income couples. The thread split mainly over two points: first, surprise that the real number is “way lower than it feels,” alongside the observation that salaried workers earning over ¥10 million are concentrated in big cities and large companies (in reality they’re not evenly distributed across workplaces or regions — there’s significant skew by industry and company size). Second, opinion clashed over just how hard ¥10 million is to reach, with views split between “you’ll get there with normal effort” and “that’s not realistic,” depending on education and occupation. It’s also worth noting that the article’s own analogy — “1 out of every 16 people on the same floor” — is itself a bit misleading once you account for how unevenly that income bracket is actually distributed.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “[Annual Income ¥10 Million] 6.2% of salaried workers, or 1 in 16. By household income it’s 13.8%, or 1 in 7 households.“

  • Rice Falls Below ¥3,000 per 5kg — 5ch: ‘Our Only Option Now Is Anything But Rice’

    The average retail price of rice has dropped below ¥3,000 per 5kg for the first time in two years. Triggered by the Nankai Trough earthquake advisory in August 2024, a shortage and price spike dubbed the “Reiwa Rice Riot” pushed prices up to a peak of ¥4,416 earlier this year, but as supply and demand eased, prices have fallen steadily over the past nine months. While this is welcome news for consumers, producers who had invested in expanding output are voicing alarm. On the thread, views welcoming the price drop clashed with criticism that agricultural co-ops (JA) and wholesalers are skimming off the profits, along with pointed remarks that it seems contradictory for farmers to cry crisis over falling prices when they claimed to be making “no profit at all” during the price surge.

    The average retail price of rice has fallen below ¥3,000 per 5kg for the first time in two years.

    With meat, eggs, vegetables and other prices staying elevated, the drop in the price of rice — the staple that anchors the dinner table — is welcome news for household budgets. On the other hand, producers are growing increasingly alarmed by the sharp decline.

    Until July 2024, rice prices had been hovering in the high-¥1,000s to low-¥2,000s range. But following the Nankai Trough earthquake advisory issued that August, among other triggers, rice fell into short supply in what became known as the “Reiwa Rice Riot,” sending prices soaring. They hit a record high of ¥4,416 in early 2026. After that, as supply and demand eased, prices turned lower, falling by nearly ¥2,500 over nine months.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    17AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:29
    Guess I'll go buy another rice cooker~?
    23AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:31
    Re: #17
    Wait, you can use a rice cooker for more than just cooking rice — you threw it out?
    Not that I actually know what else it's good for lol
    18AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:30
    This isn't a "crisis," it's a sign farmers should seriously pivot to something else.
    Even if you say you can't survive at pre-2023 prices, that's exactly where things are headed again.
    30AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:32
    Re: #18
    Seriously, this.
    Either grow something that actually turns a profit or get into a different line of work.
    26AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:32
    Huh? Prices are just going back to where they used to be.
    You raked in huge profits and now you're complaining?
    38AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:35
    Re: #26
    It wasn't the farmers who made a killing — it was JA (the agricultural co-op) and the big wholesalers.
    Farmers who got motivated last year and invested to ramp up production are now holding their heads in their hands watching prices free-fall since around this February.
    37AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:34
    Apparently more people are living on under ¥500 a day for food.
    So yeah, I get why forum posters here are coming down hard on farmers.
    46AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:37
    Re: #37
    Two years ago I saw cheap pasta on Amazon, and now even that's roughly doubled in price. Tragic lol
    40AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:36
    Everything except rice has had huge price hikes since September.
    Feels like it's up around 20%.
    48AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:37
    Re: #40
    I can forgive price hikes on everything else.
    Just not rice. I'm keeping up my boycott.
    207AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:27
    Re: #40
    Canned goods are brutal too — a single can of Spam is ¥800, ¥880 with tax.
    45AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:37
    We're past the point of debating "cheap vs. expensive."
    Our only option now is something other than rice.
    Japan's rice culture has already been destroyed by the Ministry of Agriculture and JA.
    Give up already, beggars.
    53AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:39
    Re: #45
    It's no good saying you're switching to non-rice options if you just crawl back to domestic rice the moment prices drop.

    The real retaliation is buying imported rice even if it's pricier or older than the domestic stuff.
    51AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:38
    The collusion between JA and pro-agriculture lawmakers


    The skimming middlemen — five layers of wholesalers sucking it dry
    60AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:41
    Even a decent top-tier pasta brand like Barilla can be had for under ¥2,000 per 5kg…
    No matter how tasty the rice is, once it's over ¥3,000 per 5kg I just lose interest in buying it.
    122AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:00
    Re: #60
    Come on, at least go with De Cecco instead of Barilla there.
    Though even that runs about ¥600-something per kg.
    68AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:43
    Single-varietal rice going for ¥1,280 per 5kg near me.
    And it's not even sold out — plenty left on the shelf.
    72AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:45
    Re: #68
    At that price I'd buy it.
    77AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:47
    Last year's Koshihikari, two bags for ¥3,000.
    At Lopia.
    82AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:48
    Re: #77
    Nice, not bad at all.
    84AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:49
    New-crop Koshihikari at ¥1,950.
    At Joyful Honda.

    98AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:51
    Prices are down right now because there's plenty of stock from last year plus this year's harvest, but supply looks unstable going forward and it'll probably spike again.
    And once it starts climbing, today's cheap rice will vanish from supermarket shelves all at once and we'll be back to a shortage.

    Even if there's another price surge, the government's stockpile hasn't been replenished, so there won't be much they can release.
    107AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:54
    Re: #98
    The number of farmers quitting might increase, sure, but prices won't go back up.
    105AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:54
    Didn't people say farmers weren't making a single yen of profit when prices spiked unfairly?
    If that's true, then a price drop shouldn't change anything for them either.
    Was it a lie that higher rice prices had nothing to do with farmers?
    110AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:56
    Re: #105
    Of course it matters — the higher price was finally a fair price.
    If it drops back down, farmers go back into the red, which is a serious problem.
    121AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:00
    At this point direct compensation for farmers is the only way.
    If farmers keep getting worn down like this, prices will end up staying permanently high.
    This time farmers still had some spare production capacity, so they ramped up output and stock recovered — but next time supply really won't keep up.
    141AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:09
    Re: #121
    The right approach is probably to target subsidies based on farm size and productivity.
    There's no point throwing money indiscriminately at tiny farms with essentially zero productivity.
    That said, small-scale farmers working unavoidable terrain like mountainous areas probably deserve at least some support too.
    199AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:25
    Pre-packaged microwave rice hasn't gotten cheaper at all.
    Come on, reflect the rice market price already.
    211AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:28
    Re: #199
    Iris Ohyama be like: "If we cut the price, the rice we worked so hard to make would sell at a loss."
    228AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:33
    Re: #199
    The 3-pack microwave rice that kept its price low right up to the edge even during the rice price surge has actually dropped to around ¥300.
    I figured they wouldn't bother cutting prices even after rice got cheaper, so this bumped them up a bit in my book.
    208AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:28
    Well, 95% of rice production comes from a small number of large-scale agricultural operations anyway.
    213AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:29
    Re: #208
    And word is those big operations can still turn a profit even at ¥1,000 per 5kg.
    221AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:32
    Re: #208
    Actually, it's the large full-time farming operations that are struggling the most right now.
    Fertilizer, labor costs, interest rates — everything's up, and it's brutal.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The price of rice isn’t directly tied to what producers actually take home. Because rice passes through a distribution chain of collection, wholesale, and retail before reaching store shelves, swings in the retail price don’t necessarily translate one-to-one into farmer profits — and it’s easy to overlook that production costs like fertilizer, labor, and interest rates remain stubbornly high. The thread’s pointed remark that “farmers said they weren’t making money when prices went up” zeroes in on exactly this disconnect, but neither the article nor the posts can pin down whether it was actually JA and the big wholesalers, or the producers themselves, who captured the extra profit. It’s also worth keeping in mind that the government’s capacity to release stockpiled rice has remained diminished since this bout of high prices, which will be a key factor shaping how sharply prices swing the next time supply gets tight.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “Crisis Mounts as Rice Prices Fall — Below ¥3,000 per 5kg, Producers Worry.”

  • Sergeant in His 20s Disciplined for ‘Reverse Power Harassment’ After Publicly Calling Out Superior’s Mistake

    A freedom-of-information request has revealed that a sergeant in his 20s, working in the criminal investigations division of a police station in Hyogo Prefecture’s Tajima region, was hit with a formal warning from his station chief after being found guilty of “reverse power harassment” against his direct superior, an assistant inspector in his 30s. The sergeant had repeatedly engaged in intimidating behavior, including publicly criticizing the assistant inspector in front of other officers with remarks like “why hasn’t that been done?” The case came to light after the assistant inspector himself requested a transfer. Three male officers were also disciplined — one for badmouthing the assistant inspector after his transfer, and others for making disparaging remarks about a female assistant inspector in her 40s who was working reduced hours. On 5channel, the story sparked debate: some questioned whether this stretches the usual definition of power harassment (which normally requires the harasser to hold the position of authority), others argued that public criticism itself was the real problem, and still others chalked it up to the attitude of today’s younger generation.

    A freedom-of-information request to the Hyogo Prefectural Police has revealed that in August, the department issued a formal warning from the station chief to a male sergeant in his 20s for repeatedly engaging in “reverse power harassment” against his male superior, an assistant inspector in his 30s.

    According to the department’s inspector general’s office, the sergeant, who works in the criminal investigations division of a police station in the Tajima region, repeatedly engaged in intimidating behavior toward his direct superior between around August of last year and May of this year — including publicly pointing out mistakes in front of other officers with comments like “why hasn’t that been done?” The matter came to light when the assistant inspector himself requested a transfer to a different post.

    The department also issued formal warnings to three other male officers, including another sergeant, for badmouthing the transferred assistant inspector with remarks such as “I won’t forgive him.” The same three officers also made inappropriate comments about a female assistant inspector in her 40s who was working reduced hours, saying things like “she takes off even when we’re busy” while she wasn’t present.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    5AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:31
    Come on, power harassment can only be committed by a superior — that's the whole definition.
    12AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:34
    Re: #5
    Isn't this just abuse of a position of superiority? Power harassment? I'm not really following.
    49AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:41
    Re: #5 In the police force's case, the subordinates are armed with guns too, so…
    152AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:59
    Re: #5
    Yeah, the definition of power harassment is supposed to require the harasser to be in the superior position.
    This "reverse power harassment" ruling is actually pretty forward-thinking, in a way.
    11AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:34
    Seriously, that counts as power harassment now?
    Isn't disciplining him for it a form of harassment too?
    I'm completely lost.
    27AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:37
    Re: #11
    So now you can't even scold someone to their face?
    Having to change locations just to point out a mistake — give me a break.
    15AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:35
    Police departments really don't have great internal communication.
    Still, classic Gen Z — terrible at handling relationships.
    25AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:37
    A rookie who barely knows which way is up coming at his superior with that kind of attitude — sign of the times, I guess.
    41AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:38
    Re: #25
    Exactly this.
    It's a product of the education system.
    Schools let students talk back to teachers casually these days, so of course it ends up like this.
    And then teachers address students with "-san."
    So who's actually running the show here? ("デコ助" is old slang mocking an authority figure, like "the man in charge")
    59AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:42
    Getting disciplined for pointing out your boss's mistake?
    That's the real power harassment right there.
    63AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:44
    Re: #59
    For civil servants, saving face is everything.
    If they don't discipline a subordinate who made the boss lose face, they'll be the next one targeted.
    79AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:46
    Boss or not,
    it's better to have a third party present when raising a work issue.
    Something like "how dare you embarrass me in front of everyone"?
    103AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:50
    Re: #79
    That's not it — the intimidating manner was the issue.
    They judged that the point wasn't correcting a work mistake, but publicly calling him out.
    80AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:46
    Honestly, the assistant inspector is the one who should be taking notes here.
    If a junior officer points out your mistake, it's on you as the boss to make sure it doesn't happen again.
    These days competence is everything — rank shouldn't matter.
    87AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:48
    Re: #80
    Competence only gets you so far — order and hierarchy matter more.
    105AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:50
    Re: #80
    It's a massive organization, so that kind of thing just doesn't fly.
    94AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:49
    So you're only allowed to complain when it's just the two of you?
    108AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:51
    Re: #94
    Being alone together is actually more dangerous, if anything.
    99AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:49
    Isn't the "power" in "power harassment" supposed to mean authority or rank?
    A subordinate's behavior gets labeled power harassment now?
    109AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:51
    Re: #99
    Maybe they meant "moral harassment" instead. (a Japanese-coined term for psychological/verbal abuse that doesn't require a power differential)
    127AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:54
    Re: #1
    Isn't a little badmouthing behind someone's back fine though? Saying it to their face would cause friction, sure, but if you can't even vent behind their back, the stress just builds up lol.
    There are plenty of incompetent bosses out there anyway.
    141AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:56
    Re: #127
    I'm all for badmouthing behind someone's back lol
    144AnonymousSep 19, 2026 22:57
    Re: #127
    If it's genuinely private, like at an izakaya after work, that's fine.
    But this was at the workplace, said loud enough for others to hear — the guy just not being physically present doesn't make it private.
    That's not okay.
    It poisons the work environment.
    157AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:00
    There's a YouTube channel that only interviews people who quit being police officers,
    and apparently it's an absolutely unreasonable world in there.
    170AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:02
    Re: #157
    Replying to my own post —
    it's the channel called "Ex-Cop Channel" (警察官辞めたch).
    When you actually get a peek behind the curtain, it's an insanely unreasonable world.
    171AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:03
    Re: #157
    Well, of course it is —
    it's a job where you're expected to lay down your life for citizens.
    It's not the kind of organization where you can bring your typical cushy-corporate-job mindset.
    180AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:04
    Being able to call out your boss in front of everyone like that —
    he must be an extremely capable subordinate, right?
    Otherwise it's hard to imagine.
    182AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:04
    Re: #180
    Sounds like he just didn't want to work, so "capable" seems unlikely.
    187AnonymousSep 19, 2026 23:06
    Re: #180
    So he's just a foolish subordinate, then.
    A guy like this would get disciplined wherever he went.

    Background and key points of this story

    Under Japan’s Act on Comprehensive Promotion of Labor Measures, one of the requirements for power harassment is behavior that leverages “a position of relative advantage” — it isn’t determined solely by formal rank. In this case, even though the sergeant was technically the subordinate, what drew scrutiny was the manner of his repeated public criticism, which is what fueled the thread’s debate over whether this stretches the standard definition of power harassment. It’s also worth noting — something the headline alone doesn’t convey — that the discipline wasn’t limited to the sergeant himself; it also extended to three male officers who badmouthed the transferred assistant inspector and made inappropriate remarks about a female assistant inspector on reduced working hours. In a police organization known for its strict hierarchy, the fact that the manner of the criticism itself became grounds for discipline is a point that echoes how harassment policies play out at ordinary companies too.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5channel (News Express+) thread “[Hyogo Prefectural Police] “Why hasn’t that been done?” — Sergeant in His 20s Disciplined for “Reverse Power Harassment” After Publicly Calling Out Superior’s Mistake.”

  • Kikkoman Fires Up Third US Soy Sauce Plant After a Decade-Long, ¥87 Billion Investment

    Kikkoman’s third soy sauce plant in the US, built in Wisconsin, has begun full-scale operations, with a commemorative ceremony held on the 18th. Shipments of bottled products will start in October, and in its first year the plant will produce 4,000 kiloliters — equivalent to about 13 million bottles. Total investment comes to $560 million (about ¥87 billion) over 10 years. Kikkoman’s local production in the US dates back to 1973, a history spanning more than half a century, and this expansion builds on that legacy. On the forum thread, some pointed out this seems to run counter to the trend of manufacturing “returning home” to Japan, while others countered that with cheaper soybeans and land in the US, local production simply makes more economic sense — the discussion also spun off into the origins of soy sauce and how well it has taken root overseas.

    [Jefferson, Wisconsin — Takeshi Kise] Kikkoman has brought its third US soy sauce plant into full operation, holding a commemorative ceremony on the 18th. Bottled product shipments will begin in October. It has been more than half a century since Kikkoman began local production in the US in 1973. With demand on the rise, the company plans to ramp up output using the new plant.

    The new plant was built in Jefferson, Wisconsin, in the US Midwest. In its first year, it will produce 4,000 kiloliters, equivalent to about 13 million of the company’s mainstay bottles. Total investment, including construction, is expected to reach $560 million (about ¥87 billion) over 10 years, with further expansion also under consideration.

    Kikkoman earns roughly half its revenue from North America, mainly the US. Soy sauce sales in the US market have been climbing steadily, and the company expects another 30-40% increase over the next decade. Honorary Chairman Yuzaburo Mogi declared at the ceremony on the 18th, “We will meet rising demand with the consistent quality our customers expect and a deep respect for our craftsmanship.”

    Source: yomiuri.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:10
    Wait, what happened to reshoring factories back to Japan? lol
    120AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:39
    Re: #2
    The raw materials come from America anyway, so a US factory is even cheaper.
    240AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:04
    Re: #2
    With America's massive farmland, soybeans are dirt cheap there. Rather than burning fuel to ship soybeans 10,000 km across the ocean to Japan — a trip that takes about a month and a half — it's cheaper to just make the soy sauce locally in the US.

    Plus America has a soybean surplus, so turning it into soy sauce means it keeps longer too.
    12AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:13
    Hey Kikkoman, I bet your oolong tea would sell well too
    144AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:43
    Re: #12
    Hey, let it go already lol
    14AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:13
    Apparently foreigners say Japan and Japanese people smell like soy sauce
    121AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:39
    Re: #14
    Yeah, when you come back to Japan from abroad you can really smell the soy sauce in the air
    22AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:14
    Actually read the ingredients on soy sauce.
    Soybeans, wheat, salt — that's all the real stuff has.

    Take a close look at this company's soy sauce though.
    Processed defatted soybeans (US or Canada)? Brewed vinegar? Acidifier?
    Before you know it, real soy sauce has become almost impossible to find.
    141AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:42
    Re: #22
    Most of Kikkoman's soy sauces are defatted processed soybeans, wheat, salt, and alcohol — that's soybean meal left over after the oil's pressed, plus wheat, salt, and alcohol. Some low-sodium versions do have acidifiers added, though.
    146AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:43
    Re: #22
    This is a really important point
    225AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:00
    Re: #22
    Makes you wonder how people like this reconcile the fact that the soybeans and wheat are cultivated, breed-improved varieties too
    36AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:18
    Paint it all black. Udon is too tame — let's drown hot dogs, pizza, burgers, everything, in soy sauce.
    40AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:19
    Re: #36
    They've already got teriyaki — everything's already drowning in soy sauce over there.
    37AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:19
    Kikkoman's really become a company whose main business is overseas now… kind of moving to think about
    46AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:21
    Re: #37
    Soybeans and land are dirt cheap in America. Better to source materials and produce there than pay to make it in Japan and export.
    39AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:19
    I knew they were #1 in Japan, but selling that much overseas too? Impressive.
    158AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:45
    Re: #39
    Kikkoman gets 80% of its revenue from overseas.
    53AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:22
    America's a soybean powerhouse, so they shouldn't have trouble sourcing ingredients for soy sauce
    73AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:27
    Re: #53
    If anything, Japan imports most of its soybeans from America.

    70% of Japan's soybeans come from the US, another 25% from other countries — domestically grown Japanese soybeans make up only about 5%.
    60AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:23
    What's amazing about soy sauce is you basically never get sick of it
    93AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:33
    Re: #60
    True, it's a seasoning that just doesn't trigger that "sick of it" feeling. Salt, mayo, ketchup, pepper, whatever — eat them non-stop and eventually you want a break.
    75AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:27
    I wonder how much it's actually caught on over there. Or is it just one of those mystery condiments sitting in the fridge, used once, never finished, eventually tossed?
    79AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:30
    Re: #75
    It's really caught on. The North American market now outsells Japan, and overseas sales overall make up more than 60% of the total.
    94AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:33
    It's really that big overseas? I never pictured foreigners using soy sauce for anything besides sushi.
    101AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:34
    Re: #94
    They probably use it for grilling meat, right? Those guys eat insane amounts of meat.
    110AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:36
    Re: #94
    There's a soy-teriyaki sauce called Yoshida's Sauce that sells like crazy over there.
    98AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:34
    If anything, it's teriyaki sauce that spread soy sauce in the first place. Even calling it "teriyaki sauce," apparently when Japanese people taste it they go "what even is this." Though Kikkoman's version might actually be decent.
    102AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:34
    Re: #98
    I bet Kyushu-style soy sauce would actually catch on in America. It's sweet, salty, and rich — right up their alley.
    104AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:35
    People criticize China for copying matcha, but without that we'd probably have green tea priced as some luxury good by now. That was close. Guess China's useful once in a while.
    132AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:41
    Re: #104
    Soy sauce actually originated in China, but it gets sold as if it were Japanese — so it evens out, really.
    138AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:42
    Soy sauce unfortunately originated in China. If you want to show off Japanese culture, it should be miso instead.
    164AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:46
    Re: #138
    Didn't you know soy sauce was born out of miso?
    209AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:57
    Re: #138
    I asked an AI and it said both miso and soy sauce came from China. Natto's the one that actually originated in Japan.
    189AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:52
    Chinese soy sauce might technically be the origin, but it's a totally different thing from Japanese soy sauce. It's basically used during cooking, rarely poured over a finished dish. When it comes to drizzling it on food, I doubt Chinese people would want to copy the Japanese way anyway.
    206AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:57
    Re: #189
    Apparently ordinary Chinese people were already eating egg-and-chive stir-fry before the common era, and sweet-and-sour pork by the 4th century.
    208AnonymousSep 19, 2026 20:57
    Re: #189
    I recall trying to use it the same way as Japanese soy sauce and it tasted awful. Makes sense if it's meant strictly for cooking.
    223AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:00
    I don't really picture Americans using soy sauce, mirin, vinegar, or bonito flakes
    232AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:02
    Re: #223
    They just buy pre-mixed factory teriyaki sauce these days. About the only people buying plain soy sauce are cooking nerds. Plenty of Japanese people have only ever bought mentsuyu or dashi soy sauce too, same deal.
    246AnonymousSep 19, 2026 21:06
    Re: #223
    If it goes with BBQ, they'll use anything. By the way, Yamasa's expanded into America too — proof that Japanese soy sauce culture has really soaked into American culture.

    Background and Talking Points

    Kikkoman’s overseas production dates back to 1973 in the US, so this third plant isn’t a new market entry but an expansion of roughly 50 years of local manufacturing. With overseas sales said to account for around 80% of the company’s revenue, this investment runs counter to the broader trend of manufacturing “returning home” to Japan. That’s exactly where the thread split: against the claim that this goes against reshoring, many countered that since the soybeans themselves are mostly sourced from the US anyway, local production makes more sense once you factor in shipping costs. Worth keeping in mind as background: Japan’s soybean self-sufficiency rate is under 10%, with the bulk of supply imported from the US. The other major thread of debate was soy sauce’s origin — one camp traces it to China, the other argues Japan’s own fermentation techniques turned it into something distinct, and neither side settled it. The point that teriyaki sauce helped soy sauce take root in the US is arguably another example of this kind of “diverging into something different” through flavor changes.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “Kikkoman brings its third US soy sauce plant into full operation — “becoming America’s national condiment”“.

  • Bear Makes Off with One Salmon, Angler Dials Japan’s 911 — 5ch: “What a Polite Little Bear”

    Just before midnight on the 18th in Ishikari City, Hokkaido, an angler called Japan’s emergency line (110) to report a bear sighting. One salmon was missing from his basket, apparently taken by the bear. On 5ch’s Newsplus board, the thread lit up with jabs at the headline “investigated as theft,” while also drifting into more serious territory — research showing Ezo brown bears actually don’t eat much salmon, and criticism of anglers who strip out the roe and dump the carcasses. Some argued the point of the call wasn’t really “a salmon got stolen,” but rather a warning that a bear had shown up in an area anglers frequent.

    9/19 (Sat) 10:12

    STV News Hokkaido

    On September 18, 2026, around 11:30 PM, there was a bear sighting in Ishikari City, Hokkaido.

    Source: topics.smt.docomo.ne.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:11
    Sacrificed a salmon and lived to tell the tale, huh
    4AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:11
    Let it have the one salmon
    Be glad it wasn't you that got taken instead
    9AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:12
    That's literally the pose on every Hokkaido souvenir carving
    10AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:13
    Bears eating salmon is such a cliché it's literally been turned into a souvenir figurine
    24AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:15
    Re: #10
    Actually, according to Hokkaido University research, Ezo brown bears don't eat that much salmon
    Since wolves went extinct they've had fewer chances to eat meat, so they've gone more herbivorous
    48AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:22
    Re: #10
    Same deal with mice and cheese — everyone just assumes it, but mice eat literally anything, the stereotype has nothing to do with reality
    107AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:47
    Re: #10
    That souvenir design was copied from a European one anyway
    Japanese bears were never the original model for it
    13AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:13
    Theft alone won't get it the death penalty
    16AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:14
    You're the one making off with the salmon's feed, ain't ya, settler boy~? ("Tondenhei" — Meiji-era pioneer-soldiers who settled Hokkaido, i.e. implying the human is the real interloper)
    19AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:15
    Re: #16
    A bear that's actually made of bear poop? (wordplay riffing on "Kuma no Pooh-san," since "Pooh" sounds like Japanese slang for poop)
    17AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:14
    That's not poaching, right?
    110AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:50
    Re: #17
    Using a snag hook… er, never mind… ("gang hooks" — treble hooks used to illegally snag fish, hence trailing off)
    18AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:14
    > Investigated as theft

    lol ("kusa"/grass = Japanese internet slang for LOL)
    106AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:47
    Re: #18
    This
    No other reply needed
    191AnonymousSep 19, 2026 18:37
    Re: #18
    > Investigated as theft

    Guess it's off to the station for "voluntary" questioning then
    21AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:15
    What a dutiful little bear, don't you think?
    35AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:19
    Use salmon as bait and you could reel in a bear
    75AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:30
    Re: #35
    The culling bounty is something like 40,000 yen
    Not bad, could work
    99AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:42
    > The angler had put a salmon washed up by the waves into his basket

    Weird way to phrase it, but isn't that poaching?
    170AnonymousSep 19, 2026 18:29
    Re: #99
    I wonder how they classify the ones that die of exhaustion after spawning
    111AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:51
    The age of the thieving bear has arrived ("dorokkuma" — a pun blending 泥棒/thief with 熊/bear)
    130AnonymousSep 19, 2026 18:02
    Re: #111
    Some animals are smart enough to learn to tail human hunters and fishermen and swipe their catch.
    There's even a story about crows: while humans were doing bird conservation work, the crows watched them, figured out where the wild birds' nests were, and raided them. Once the humans doing the binocular surveys were kept away, the crow attacks stopped and the bird population started recovering nicely.
    116AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:54
    With human technology we could wipe them out, right?
    Let's just do it
    121AnonymousSep 19, 2026 17:55
    Re: #116
    England managed it 1,000 years ago, so it should be a breeze
    149AnonymousSep 19, 2026 18:13
    Angler etiquette is part of the problem too — they should be keeping their catch in boxes that don't leak any smell. Leave a lunch box lying around and bears will grab that too. There's a case where one careless angler's habits led to two brown bears being culled in a single day. On top of that, some of these anglers only care about the roe — they strip out the ikura and just fling the carcass wherever. And there are guys who drive around in mini-trucks buying up that poached roe.
    155AnonymousSep 19, 2026 18:17
    Re: #149
    Poaching's basically yakuza business, after all
    156AnonymousSep 19, 2026 18:17
    This was actually a salmon the bear had caught itself, you know
    211AnonymousSep 19, 2026 18:47
    Re: #156
    Ah I see, so it got fixated and only took back the specific salmon it had caught itself from the basket
    175AnonymousSep 19, 2026 18:31
    Meanwhile I can't even feel safe — there's an Alaskan Malamute I always run into on my beach walking route that glares me down every time. Its eyes practically read "I'm… gonna hunt you"
    202AnonymousSep 19, 2026 18:41
    Re: #175
    Isn't that just its pupils shrinking because it's bright out?
    188AnonymousSep 19, 2026 18:37
    I've had a black-tailed gull steal a horse mackerel right off my line before
    197AnonymousSep 19, 2026 18:40
    Re: #188
    Haha, classic — so annoying, right
    Worst one for me was losing a spear squid about 40cm long lol
    219AnonymousSep 19, 2026 18:50
    There was an NHK documentary following a Shiretoko brown bear that got gaunt from a lack of food in the mountains, started coming down to the coast to forage for crabs and shellfish, then wandered onto a beach near houses it had never visited before, got reported, and was shot dead.
    230AnonymousSep 19, 2026 18:57
    Re: #219
    If I recall, it was dramatized about as reliably as Seton's Wild Animal tales
    229AnonymousSep 19, 2026 18:56
    Well, it's not like anyone's actually charging the bear with theft — the point of the call was to report a bear showing up somewhere anglers regularly go, so people could be warned and take precautions.

    What should really be criticized here is the media's tone-deafness — or lack of urgency — for spinning it into a headline like "salmon stolen"
    240AnonymousSep 19, 2026 19:00
    Re: #229
    No wonder you don't do well at hostess clubs lol
    245AnonymousSep 19, 2026 19:03
    Re: #229
    Isn't it more that the angler wandered into bear territory?

    Anyway, buy me a round at the hostess club

    Background and talking points

    In Hokkaido, salmon run upriver from September through October, and this is also the season when brown bear sightings pick up in the Ishikari River system. Within the thread, pushback emerged against the image of bears as salmon-eaters, citing Hokkaido University research showing Ezo brown bears actually eat relatively little salmon — after wolves went extinct, their opportunities to eat meat declined and they shifted toward a more plant-based diet. Also, this 110 call was really about public-safety information — a bear appearing where anglers frequent — not about the loss of one salmon becoming some kind of “incident.” Still, the headline “investigated as theft” took on a life of its own, spreading reactions that anthropomorphized and joked about the bear. At the same time, some pointed out that anglers who leave leftover food or squeezed-out roe scraps at fishing spots can attract bears, sometimes leading to them being culled — a serious wildlife-management issue underneath all the jokes.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Newsplus) thread “[(・(ェ)・)] “Bear made off with my salmon,” angler’s 110 call — one salmon missing from basket, Ishikari City, Hokkaido.”

  • “Stubborn Holdout” Buildings Survive Yaesu Redevelopment — Owner Says “My Parents Told Me Never to Sell”

    In the redevelopment project in front of Tokyo Station’s Yaesu exit, the large mixed-use complex “Tofrom Yaesu Tower” opened on September 10 — but two buildings that never joined the redevelopment are still standing on either side of the main entrance. Speaking to the Sankei Shimbun, one of the owners explained the reason: “My parents told me not to sell.” On 5ch, some see these “stubborn holdout buildings” (do-konjo biru, literally “guts buildings”) as part of what makes Yaesu distinctive, while others argued that redeveloped areas often end up looking polished but fail to become places people actually want to stick around in, and some suggested that overly strong property rights may be what’s holding redevelopment back.

    Sep 19 (Sat), 9:38 AM JST

    Sankei Shimbun

    As part of the redevelopment project in front of Tokyo Station’s Yaesu exit, the large mixed-use facility “Tofrom Yaesu Tower” opened on the 10th. However, two buildings that did not take part in the redevelopment remain standing on either side of the main entrance facing Tokyo Station. While these “stubborn holdout buildings,” which refused the land buyout, may reflect Yaesu’s diversity, criticism of the resulting visual mismatch seems likely too. One of the owners explained that the reason for not joining the redevelopment was “my parents’ wishes.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article

    5AnonymousSep 19, 2026 13:28
    That's so Yaesu, and I love it. No matter how hard it tries, it'll never be Marunouchi.
    17AnonymousSep 19, 2026 13:36
    Re: #5
    Growing up, I was told, "They built this amazing building in Marunouchi called the Shin-Maru Building [New Maru Building]."

    Then as an adult, the Maru Building got rebuilt, and suddenly it was "the Maru Building is the newest one now, the Shin-Maru Building is the old one."

    Then, even later, the Shin-Maru Building got rebuilt too, so now it's like "the Shin-Maru Building is the newest, but please still support the old Maru Building too."

    Marunouchi makes no sense.
    204AnonymousSep 19, 2026 16:53
    Re: #5
    Back in the day, Marunouchi was just rice paddies full of frogs, while Yaesu was the trendy spot where you could get the latest must-have goods.
    9AnonymousSep 19, 2026 13:31
    Redevelopment makes places look nice, but I feel like a lot of them end up becoming boring towns.
    83AnonymousSep 19, 2026 14:23
    Re: #9
    Exactly this.
    Places that look good but that nobody actually sticks around in.
    126AnonymousSep 19, 2026 15:10
    Re: #9
    Highway rest stops (SA/PA) are the same way — they look nice, but they're just not comfortable to be in.
    169AnonymousSep 19, 2026 16:12
    Re: #9
    Compared to Tsukiji, it really shows how boring Toyosu is.
    10AnonymousSep 19, 2026 13:31
    Real estate is also a form of social infrastructure, so property rights being too strong is a problem too.
    20AnonymousSep 19, 2026 13:39
    Re: #10
    Big corporations buying everything up is also a problem, though. It's a bit more understandable in places with high public importance, like airports.
    93AnonymousSep 19, 2026 14:35
    Re: #10
    That's so true.
    22AnonymousSep 19, 2026 13:39
    It's almost like some kind of fable — the ones who stood firm and refused to go along with the easy-money land flipping were the loan sharks and the pawnshops…
    27AnonymousSep 19, 2026 13:41
    Re: #22
    An old-school Japanese sweets shop, sure, or some company's office building, I'd get — but this…
    136AnonymousSep 19, 2026 15:22
    Re: #22
    They probably just didn't offer as much money as expected.
    23AnonymousSep 19, 2026 13:39
    About 30 million yen per tsubo (~3.3 sqm)!?
    The redevelopment is insane, but don't cave — this spot is worth holding onto.
    175AnonymousSep 19, 2026 16:23
    Re: #23
    You couldn't buy it for anywhere near 30 million a tsubo. Land like that probably starts at 100 million a tsubo. There's no replacing it.
    30AnonymousSep 19, 2026 13:46
    Back in the day, would the land sharks have just burned it down?
    36AnonymousSep 19, 2026 13:49
    Re: #30
    People who casually say "the Showa era was so great" tend to forget about stuff like that.
    31AnonymousSep 19, 2026 13:46
    Perfect location for scalping Shinkansen ticket booklets.
    33AnonymousSep 19, 2026 13:48
    Re: #31
    There's one in Yaechika (the underground mall by Yaesu) too, though not many people seem to know about it.
    42AnonymousSep 19, 2026 13:53
    Went to Tofrom on its first Saturday open.
    I spotted a line of people who looked like they might be getting free booze, so I waited in it for about 15 minutes — but all that came out was tea.
    Turned out, if you looked closely, it said non-alcoholic only during the day. Everyone around me was saying stuff like "we got played" and "if there's no booze, just tell us up front!"
    116AnonymousSep 19, 2026 14:58
    Re: #42
    Probably run by the same people behind "Tofu-atama" (a company/mascot nickname, lit. "tofu head").
    Feels like it'll go downhill fast.
    129AnonymousSep 19, 2026 15:13
    Re: #42
    What a cheapskate move.
    Guess this is shaping up to be the next Kabukicho Tower situation.
    57AnonymousSep 19, 2026 14:03
    Re: #1
    Good thing the yakuza are so toothless these days.
    Back in the Showa era, the yakuza would've been all over a deal like this.
    58AnonymousSep 19, 2026 14:06
    Re: #57
    The land-sharking was at its worst around 1990, during the bubble economy.
    184AnonymousSep 19, 2026 16:33
    Re: #57
    If it happened in the Showa era, well — we made it through that era and here we are now.
    63AnonymousSep 19, 2026 14:08
    This kind of thing is probably part of why Japan has declined.
    Overseas, they'd just force everyone out and redevelop the whole area properly.
    91AnonymousSep 19, 2026 14:31
    Re: #63
    And there goes the "overseas is better" crowd, thoroughly debunked.

    118AnonymousSep 19, 2026 14:58
    Re: #91
    Can people actually live in this?
    142AnonymousSep 19, 2026 15:31
    My place is in Nihonbashi too, and because we absolutely refused to sell, we ended up tucked back in an alley — buildings on both sides, a building behind us, and now a condo tower out front.
    159AnonymousSep 19, 2026 15:56
    Re: #142
    An old sushi shop?
    161AnonymousSep 19, 2026 16:00
    Re: #142
    Is it a private home, or a tenant building?
    171AnonymousSep 19, 2026 16:15
    Re: #142
    The photo shop in Kodenmacho is pretty wild too.
    162AnonymousSep 19, 2026 16:01
    Picture

    165AnonymousSep 19, 2026 16:05
    Re: #162
    Huh, it doesn't look like it's falling apart any time soon — tearing it down would be a waste.
    178AnonymousSep 19, 2026 16:27
    Re: #162
    Redevelopment plans built around the assumption everyone will move out end up looking painfully lame when the eviction doesn't fully pan out.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    A “stubborn holdout building” (do-konjo biru) is a colloquial term for a building whose owner refused to sell or rebuild during a redevelopment project, leaving it standing even after the surrounding block was reorganized — there are several other examples of this in central Tokyo. Japan’s urban redevelopment projects generally move forward based on the consent of landowners who join a redevelopment association, and unlike public works projects, there is essentially no mechanism for forced expropriation — meaning an owner can legally keep their building standing simply by not agreeing to join. During the bubble economy, aggressive eviction tactics known as “jiage” (land-sharking) became a major social problem, and commenters in the thread looked back on those practices. Opinions in the thread were split over whether to view these individual holdout buildings as a positive expression of neighborhood character and diversity, or as a sign of visual inconsistency and inefficiency — with some citing examples of forced eviction overseas, and others pushing back against that view.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5channel (Breaking News+) thread “[Tokyo] “Stubborn Holdout” Buildings Survive Yaesu Redevelopment — Owner Says “My Parents Told Me Never to Sell”.”

  • Harimaya Honten, “Japan’s Best Okaki Shop,” to Shut Down by End of March 2027

    Harimaya Honten, operator of “Japan’s Best Okaki Shop – Harimaya Honten,” announced it will cease operations by the end of March 2027. The reasons for the closure were disclosed on the company’s official website via images and a PDF document. On 5ch forums, users noted that the company’s Tokyo store had already closed back in November 2023, and many expressed nostalgia for the brand’s business style, known for its distinctive promotional trailers. Opinions were split between those hoping someone would take over the business and those who felt succession would be difficult since the recipes are so dependent on one person.

    Harimaya Honten, operator of “Japan’s Best Okaki Shop – Harimaya Honten,” announced that it will cease operations by the end of March 2027.

    The company disclosed this on its official website, publishing the reasons for the closure via images and PDF materials.

    Impress GAME Watch

    Source: game.watch.impress.co.jp / Read the original article here

    2AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:31
    Re: #1
    Closure notice
    5AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:32
    Re: #1
    Re: #2
    Did you check the thread list?
    66AnonymousSep 19, 2026 11:15
    Re: #2
    I see, I see.
    78AnonymousSep 19, 2026 11:33
    Re: #2
    Could you say that in Japanese? (a snarky stock reply implying the previous post made no sense)
    3AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:32
    Guess that creepy website of theirs is going away too, huh
    88AnonymousSep 19, 2026 11:46
    Re: #3
    How many people in Japan can even understand what's on that site?
    7AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:33
    Re: #1
    Previous thread

    "Japan's Best Okaki Shop – Harimaya Honten" to close by end of March 2027 [Shoukou-san★]
    https://asahi.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1789708254/
    11AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:35
    Re: #7
    Oh, there was one already
    Guess this one's part 2, then…
    10AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:34
    Everyone raves about it, but is it really that good?
    Should I pay the steep Amazon shipping to buy some?
    What do you recommend?
    12AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:35
    Re: #10
    Pretty much everything except the tomato one is good
    47AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:54
    Re: #10
    The tomato one is good
    75AnonymousSep 19, 2026 11:24
    Re: #10
    Better to buy from the official website
    They send you these wonderfully unhinged seasonal newsletters (lit. "radio-wave letters," slang for eccentric, conspiracy-flavored writing)
    13AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:36
    Please, somebody, anybody, take over the business
    26AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:43
    Re: #13
    I buy from somewhere else now, and honestly it's no different from here, both are tasty
    This place's okaki are huge though, which makes them a bit awkward to eat
    Both this place and others spend way too much on their storefronts, that's how much of a ripoff it is
    Meaning: the taste barely differs from competitors, so they have to go to such lengths just to stand out
    36AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:47
    In answer to Re: #13's wish, only the Volvo-trailer operation ended up being taken over…
    17AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:39
    Somebody please take over the business at least…
    It'd be such a waste to lose it.
    173AnonymousSep 19, 2026 15:42
    Re: #17
    This inability to do that is exactly why Japan is sinking
    The auto industry was just as stubborn
    30AnonymousSep 19, 2026 10:44
    Re: #1
    Isn't this the Harimaya okaki bus?

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUecmf6CIAIOMSc.jpg:large
    56AnonymousSep 19, 2026 11:01
    Re: #30
    They rented a ton of trailers and just drove them in circles around Tokyo? No wonder they went under (´・ω・`)
    73AnonymousSep 19, 2026 11:23
    Re: #1
    Their Tokyo store used to sit right next to the Cabinet Secretariat's "Territory and Sovereignty Exhibition Hall" in Toranomon
    The store vanished about 3 years ago, so I had a bad feeling, and sure enough

    Whether you call it right-wing or "long live the Emperor," you can tell they really love Japan
    74AnonymousSep 19, 2026 11:23
    Re: #73
    I used to make the trip from Kamata just to eat there
    98AnonymousSep 19, 2026 12:01
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8ns11NXgAEhnD-.jpg
    103AnonymousSep 19, 2026 12:08
    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DsfG6R35p9Q/hq720.jpg
    104AnonymousSep 19, 2026 12:11
    https://i.kobe-np.co.jp/news/economy/202609/img/a_20834375.jpg
    105AnonymousSep 19, 2026 12:13
    They also put out a closure notice last time
    108AnonymousSep 19, 2026 12:22
    Re: #105
    Second time in three years?
    148AnonymousSep 19, 2026 13:32
    Re: #105
    Isn't that just the Tokyo store?
    Tokyo store (Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo) – closed November 30, 2023. The stated reason was severe staff shortages caused by over a decade of using large trailers to make direct petitions to the Emperor.
    106AnonymousSep 19, 2026 12:21
    https://www.harimayahonten.co.jp/tenpo/images/poster.jpg
    120AnonymousSep 19, 2026 12:44
    Sounds like the okaki is actually pretty good
    They should just hand the business over to a normal manager through succession
    Or maybe it tastes good precisely because of the ideological spice?
    124AnonymousSep 19, 2026 12:50
    Re: #120
    I doubt they could even manage the handover paperwork
    The process isn't that mechanized to begin with
    And the recipe's probably all locked away in his head anyway
    126AnonymousSep 19, 2026 12:55
    Re: #120
    I don't think that "Shisō spice" comment is too far off the mark
    I bet no matter who takes over, if a normal manager ran it, the taste would eventually decline
    It's not that the eccentric "radio wave" vibe directly produces that flavor, but I suspect the whole system — from the okaki itself to the Volvo trailers (or whatever's even beyond that) — works together in harmony, and that's what keeps the taste intact
    134AnonymousSep 19, 2026 13:13
    It's precisely because of the president's mysterious obsessions that you could trust them
    Rice sourced from Kyushu or Hyogo
    Never anything from China, not even by mistake
    If the president changes and the business gets handed over, it's basically a different company at that point
    135AnonymousSep 19, 2026 13:14
    Re: #134
    What do you mean "Kyushu rice"? Same with Hyogo — you can't really grow rice there, can you?
    149AnonymousSep 19, 2026 13:34
    Re: #134
    They probably thought sourcing ingredients from obscure regions would create a sense of rarity, but that shows no business sense
    It probably went under because it just wasn't tasty in the first place
    Rice crackers made from some no-name rice can't compete with ones made from Koshihikari
    170AnonymousSep 19, 2026 15:32
    Re: #56
    That's just their own delivery truck
    174AnonymousSep 19, 2026 15:43
    Re: #170
    I wouldn't want that truck showing up to make a delivery
    177AnonymousSep 19, 2026 15:45
    Re: #170
    There's no way they'd actually use that thing to deliver rice crackers to places like Esaka or Motomachi… right?

    Background and Key Points of the Discussion

    Harimaya Honten is a rice-cracker maker headquartered in Shisō City, Hyogo Prefecture, long known online for its distinctive promotional trailers and eccentric official website. Its Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo store already closed at the end of November 2023, and this latest announcement means the end of the entire business, including headquarters. While many commenters called for someone to take over the business, others pointed out that the recipes and manufacturing process are so dependent on specific individuals, and not very mechanized, that a straightforward handover would be difficult. It’s also worth noting something the article alone doesn’t make clear: the brand name “Japan’s Best Okaki Shop” might suggest a major nationwide corporation, when in reality it’s the output of a single small regional company.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “[🚛] “A Sacred Closure” – Japan’s Best Okaki Shop Harimaya Honten to Close by End of March 2027”.