Category: Society

  • Shizuoka Man in His 80s Loses ¥11 Million to SNS ‘Girlfriend’ — 5ch: ‘Guy’s Loaded’

    A local TV report has revealed that a man in his 80s living in Shizuoka City was defrauded of roughly ¥11 million by someone posing as a woman he met on social media. He apparently kept sending money after believing lines like “I want to see you, darling, I want to go on a date,” making him the latest victim of a so-called SNS romance scam. The report drew a wide range of reactions on 5ch, from astonishment that an 80-year-old could have that much cash on hand, to exasperation at how elaborate the scam was, to sympathetic comments admitting “this could happen to me too.”

    “I Want to See You, Darling, I Want to Go on a Date” — Man in His 80s Defrauded of ¥11 Million by Someone Posing as a Woman He Met on SNS [SNS Romance Scam], Shizuoka City – LOOK Shizuoka Asahi TV

    Sunday, September 20, 2026, 17:06

    A man in his 80s living in Shizuoka City was defrauded of roughly ¥11 million in cash by someone posing as a woman he met on social media.

    Source: look.satv.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 21, 2026 01:24
    An 80-year-old with ¥10 million to spare — guy's loaded.
    7AnonymousSep 21, 2026 01:27
    Wire-transfer scams are so common now that banks like S Bank have ramped up monitoring — apparently they get super pushy even when it's your own money you're withdrawing.
    8AnonymousSep 21, 2026 01:28
    Don't go fuga-fuga mumbling like that~
    You're always puru-puru trembling~
    Just take out those dentures already~ (a parody of the lyrics to Lum's Love Song, the Urusei Yatsura ending theme)
    46AnonymousSep 21, 2026 01:43
    Re: #8
    Money above all else, I love you x3 (mwah~), I love you x3 (mwah~)
    The scammers (the 'suspects') squirm across the net (another line from the same Lum's Love Song parody)
    11AnonymousSep 21, 2026 01:31
    Could be Hitomi Yaida.
    19AnonymousSep 21, 2026 01:34
    Re: #11 "Darling, not enough" (a pun on Yaida's song title 'Darling')
    16AnonymousSep 21, 2026 01:33
    Re: #1
    I easily played that back in my head in Fumi Hirano's voice (the voice actress for Lum)
    17AnonymousSep 21, 2026 01:33
    Guess he's from the Lum generation?
    29AnonymousSep 21, 2026 01:36
    Re: #17
    It started serialization 48 years ago, in 1978
    so this old guy would've been in his 30s back then
    yeah, he'd know it alright.
    21AnonymousSep 21, 2026 01:34
    If he were in his 40s or 50s, fine, but at 80 it can't be helped.
    When you get old, your brain seriously degrades to the point you're basically a different person.
    81AnonymousSep 21, 2026 02:03
    Re: #21
    Exactly.
    None of us know if we'll end up going our whole lives without a girlfriend either, so we could get suckered by this kind of scam too.
    The scariest people are the ones who call the victims idiots.
    22AnonymousSep 21, 2026 01:34
    Most stories like this look either staged or like tax evasion. Whatever he 'handed over' or 'sent' probably just went to his kids or acquaintances.
    Even if he dies with ¥101 million, just ¥1 million is enough to cover a funeral and wrap things up — no problem at all. And whoever pocketed the rest will just spend it, so it even stimulates the economy.
    23AnonymousSep 21, 2026 01:35
    Taking money from someone who clearly has plenty is easy and efficient, I guess.
    24AnonymousSep 21, 2026 01:35
    Re: #1
    Go listen to the Misfits' "Die, Die My Darling" (a punk song with a fitting title)
    36AnonymousSep 21, 2026 01:40
    Re: #1
    That's an investment scam lol
    not a romance scam lololol
    37AnonymousSep 21, 2026 01:40
    Apparently in the West, it's the men who call women 'darling.'
    38AnonymousSep 21, 2026 01:41
    Well, old man, that was a good lesson.
    Life's a lesson no matter how old you get lol
    41AnonymousSep 21, 2026 01:42
    "Darling" lololololol the scammer's probably some middle-aged dude lololol my sides hurt lolololol
    43AnonymousSep 21, 2026 01:42
    "Ohh Mr. President, you're such a naughty one~" wwwwww (a classic hostess-bar catchphrase)
    44AnonymousSep 21, 2026 01:42
    Well, at least he had a nice dream before the end.
    50AnonymousSep 21, 2026 01:44
    Re: #44
    He might not even remember the dream.
    51AnonymousSep 21, 2026 01:44
    If my wife died before me, I bet I'd fall for this too.
    54AnonymousSep 21, 2026 01:46
    Re: #51
    "I wanna see youuu, daaarling♥"
    53AnonymousSep 21, 2026 01:45
    Re: #42
    "Datcha" is actually Sendai dialect.
    A cute girl from Sendai once said "…datcha" to me and I thought I'd met a real-life Lum.
    85AnonymousSep 21, 2026 02:11
    Re: #53
    "…shite kero" is Sendai dialect too.
    Sounds like a frog (kero = croak), kinda cute lol
    72AnonymousSep 21, 2026 01:54
    I demand the full chat log be released.
    95AnonymousSep 21, 2026 02:19
    Re: #72
    I could pay up to ¥1,000 for that.
    86AnonymousSep 21, 2026 02:13
    So the scam pocketed it all and now he's broke? (slang: 'pokke nai-nai' = making money vanish into your pocket)
    93AnonymousSep 21, 2026 02:19
    Re: #86
    (;゚Д゚) He's obviously well-off —
    you can't hand over money you don't have.
    118AnonymousSep 21, 2026 02:49
    Anyone who hands money to organized crime is an offender too.
    Don't go acting like a victim.
    127AnonymousSep 21, 2026 02:59
    Re: #118
    Well, if he was being blackmailed, I could still feel some sympathy.
    178AnonymousSep 21, 2026 05:01
    Ah, it's Respect for the Aged Day, isn't it (lol) (a Japanese holiday honoring the elderly, observed around this time of year)

    Background and Key Points of Debate

    SNS romance scams typically work by building trust through repeated messaging with a stranger, then using talk of investments or personal circumstances as a pretext to solicit money — the elderly are said to be especially frequent targets. Opinions in the thread split between those who saw the large sum sent as proof the victim “must be wealthy,” and those who framed it as a case of someone whose “cognitive decline was exploited,” though the latter is speculation not confirmed by the reporting. Some posters also took the harsh position that “anyone who hands money to organized crime is an offender too,” but the report doesn’t reveal the actual nature of the scam group or the source of the victim’s funds. One point readers may find confusing is the mix between the headline’s framing as a “romance scam” and the “investment scam” elements some posters pointed out — the original article alone isn’t enough to determine the full details of how the scam operated.

    *This article is composed of excerpts and a summary from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “‘I Want to See You, Darling, I Want to Go on a Date’ — Man in His 80s Defrauded of ¥11 Million by Someone Posing as a Woman He Met on SNS, Shizuoka City.”

  • 65+ Workers Earn ¥285,300 a Month on Average — Gap Between Industries Nears ¥200,000, 5ch Reacts: ‘That’s Just How It Is in the Countryside’

    According to the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare’s “FY2025 Basic Survey on Wage Structure,” people aged 65 and older who are still working earn an average monthly income of ¥285,300. Broken down by industry, the gap between the highest-paying sector for ages 65-69 — education and learning support (¥420,900) — and the lowest-paying sectors is nearly ¥200,000. The original article also notes that high earners like university professors are pulling the average up. On 5ch, the discussion kicked off with someone lamenting “My monthly income is ¥170,000 — nowhere close,” then spread to cover the pay gap between rural and urban areas, take-home pay for assistant section chief-level employees, and minimum wage levels. Toward the end, some posters argued that reports should include the median alongside the average.

    (Omitted)

    Monthly income for ages 65-69 varies by nearly ¥200,000 depending on industry

    From here, we’ll use the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare’s FY2025 Basic Survey on Wage Structure to check how much people aged 65 and older are actually earning. This is the same 2025 survey data used for the employment figures.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    4AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:18
    My annual income right now is ¥2 million. My monthly income is ¥170,000. Are you telling me it jumps to ¥280,000 once I hit 65?
    33AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:33
    Re: #4
    That's just how it is in the countryside.
    119AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:12
    Re: #4
    That's really just down to your own effort… Anyway, change jobs.
    122AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:13
    Re: #4
    If you take a side job you'd easily hit that. Full-time plus 6 hours of side work gets you to about that amount.
    17AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:26
    Working full-time at 65? That's hell.
    87AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:00
    Re: #17
    Soon we'll all be working until 75.
    100AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:04
    Re: #17
    By the time the Ice Age generation (those who entered the job market during Japan's 1990s-2000s hiring freeze) hits retirement age, you'll probably need to wait until 70 to get full pension benefits \(^o^)/
    19AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:27
    Still working past 65? How little savings do you even have, lol. I don't want to end up like that.
    36AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:34
    Re: #19
    If you cause a traffic accident and kill ("56" is slang using number readings to spell out 殺す, "kill," dodging word filters) the other person, you'll end up living like that overnight. Or if a fire you start burns down your house and the neighbors', you're instantly poor. Or if you get terminal cancer or severe diabetes, your life falls apart in a flash. There are plenty of other pitfalls too. A kid like you probably can't understand that though.
    68AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:49
    Re: #36
    That wouldn't happen. What do you think insurance is for?
    26AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:31
    > Education/learning support: ¥420,900

    Apparently university professors are included in this, and they're the ones dragging the average up.
    38AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:35
    Re: #26
    That's right. A university professor is roughly equivalent in rank to a section-chief-level national civil servant. Retirement age is 65 at national/public universities, but some private universities keep people on until around 70.
    149AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:43
    Re: #26
    There's a long tradition of private universities hiring professors who've retired from national universities. You'd think it's just amakudari (the practice of retired officials landing cushy post-retirement jobs), but apparently in the sciences they bring job placements for students with them, so it's win-win.
    51AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:40
    60 years old, full-time, take-home pay of ¥80,000.
    63AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:46
    Re: #51
    That's outdated thinking aimed at the Ice Age generation. With the birthrate falling and labor shortages now, the plan should be to work until 75 to ease the burden on social security, so you don't have to worry about money right before you die. Just look at the population pyramid — there's no way the working generation can properly fund the Ice Age generation's pensions.
    75AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:51
    Re: #51
    Take-home pay of ¥80,000 for full-time work? Must be a 5-day weekend schedule \(^o^)/
    58AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:43
    Almost 20 years at the company, senior assistant section chief, married, and take-home pay just under ¥220,000 — that's low by any measure, right?
    66AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:49
    Re: #58
    Depends on the job.
    72AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:50
    Re: #58
    Nah, that's about normal for a small or mid-size company out in the countryside. Take-home of ¥220,000 probably means a gross of around ¥300,000. Add two bonuses of ¥500,000 each and you're at roughly ¥4.5 million a year — plenty solid for the countryside.
    76AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:51
    Re: #72
    Seriously? No wonder the birthrate is falling.
    81AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:54
    Re: #76
    No, with that much you can buy a house and a car and support kids. Your wife might have to work too, though.
    88AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:00
    Re: #76
    Don't be fooled — an annual income of ¥4.5 million with ¥220,000 monthly take-home is about what a rank-and-file employee with no title makes, even out in the countryside. A section chief normally pulls in around ¥4.8 million a year. Department manager class: ¥5.2 million. Division head: ¥6 million. Managing director: ¥7 million. Senior managing director: ¥7.8 million. President: ¥8 million. That's roughly the scale even in the countryside.
    80AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:54
    My dad, who does contract electrical work, brags that he makes ¥450,000 for 10 days of work a month. I think the fact that he's still working at 80 kind of undercuts the bragging rights.
    156AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:49
    Re: #80
    Apparently if you've got an electrician's license, even part-time work pays ¥20,000 for half a day and they still can't find enough people. I've heard inspection work, not just construction, is also short-staffed and rough.
    184AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:31
    Re: #80
    Even earning ¥450,000 at 80, he's probably not spending it — he's likely working so he can leave it to you. That's admirable. Meanwhile my own dad has about ¥2 million in stocks but apparently has no intention of gifting any of it to me while he's alive. He used to have around ¥7 million but sold it off to cover living expenses. He's been jobless for about 10 years but still gets ¥170,000 a month in pension.
    95AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:03
    Re: #88
    Nah, that's way too little. Even in the countryside, that's short by a million yen.
    102AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:05
    Re: #95
    If you check job listings at Hello Work (Japan's public employment agency) out in the countryside, ¥250,000 a month is totally normal.
    108AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:08
    Re: #102
    You really need at least ¥200,000 take-home as a bare minimum. They should set a minimum for base pay too.
    113AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:10
    Re: #108
    Even this is a big improvement, honestly. Back in the bad days, ¥180,000 or even ¥150,000 a month was the norm.
    115AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:10
    Re: #108
    Alright then, my minimum wage is ¥1 million.
    167AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:11
    I wish there were a law requiring the media to publish the total sample size and the median whenever they report an average.
    170AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:17
    Re: #167
    Are you that bitter about being below average?
    171AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:18
    Re: #167
    The median is just a number counted up from the bottom — it's a figure made up of nothing but losers. What good would knowing that even do you?
    169AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:17
    I'm quitting my job at the end of September, becoming a zero-income household, and I'm done paying taxes.
    172AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:19
    Re: #169
    Even unemployed, you'll still owe resident tax next year. And more to the point — how are you planning to live with no job?
    187AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:33
    Re: #169
    Even as a tax-exempt household, they'll still take nursing care insurance premiums and National Health Insurance. And if you own your home, property tax too.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The figures behind this story come from the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare’s “Basic Survey on Wage Structure,” an official statistic published annually based on reports from employers. Averages are easily skewed by high earners, and as pointed out in the thread, high-paying occupations like university professors can pull up an entire industry’s average. Retirement age for faculty at national and public universities is around 65, while some private universities keep instructors on beyond that — one factor pushing up the monthly income figure for the “education and learning support” industry. Meanwhile, most posters in the thread reacted to the gap between the ¥280,000 average monthly income figure and their own take-home pay, with the disconnect from the lived experience of workers at rural and small-to-midsize companies driving much of the discussion. The calls for reporting the median alongside the average also have some merit as a point about statistical literacy — a reminder that averages alone can obscure the real picture.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (Breaking News Plus) thread “Monthly Income for Working People Aged 65 and Older Is “¥285,300.” How Much Does It Vary by Industry? The Highest-Paying Sector Is “¥420,000”.”

  • Secondary Capital: Government Weighing Multiple Cities, Minister Fujii Says ‘It’s Not All About Osaka’

    Internal Affairs Minister Hisayuki Fujii said on an NHK program on September 20 that when it comes to designating a “secondary capital” to back up the capital’s functions, “we’re considering multiple cities,” pushing back on criticism from opposition parties and others that it’s “all about Osaka.” The secondary capital initiative is being studied from a disaster-prevention and crisis-management angle, with the government planning to set the designation criteria by cabinet order in late October 2026 and actual designation expected from autumn 2027 onward. On 5channel threads, the discussion heated up around frontrunner Osaka alongside cooperation proposals involving Fukuoka, Nagoya, and Hokkaido, mixed with historical arguments calling Kyoto the “true capital” and plenty of regional trash-talk.

    Sun, Sep 20, 3:40 PM

    Kyodo News

    Internal Affairs Minister Hisayuki Fujii said on an NHK program on the 20th that regarding the designation of a “secondary capital” to back up the capital’s functions, he is “considering multiple [cities].” He also serves as the minister in charge of the secondary capital initiative. He denied criticism, mainly from opposition parties, that it’s “all about Osaka,” saying “that’s not the case.”

    Source: topics.smt.docomo.ne.jp / Original article here

    8AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:17
    A virtual space would be plenty for the secondary capital.

    The idiots pushing physical infrastructure act like they're gonna build somewhere that can house all 40 million people in greater Tokyo.
    59AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:42
    Re: #8
    Second Life would do just fine (referencing the old virtual-world platform).
    105AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:34
    Re: #8
    There are plenty of replacements for you guys.
    128AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:01
    Re: #8
    You actually think if the capital gets wiped out, everyone living there just moves to the secondary capital? lolololol
    You nobodies are getting shipped off to all those vacant houses in northern Kanto or Tohoku you used to look down on.
    It only needs to be big enough for the people running the government, lol.
    9AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:18
    It's gonna be Osaka and Fukuoka, right?
    Might as well just say it's already decided.
    54AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:38
    Re: #9
    Nagoya, the economic hub, is the top candidate.
    130AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:04
    Re: #9
    If they say that outright, it'll look like a backroom deal between the LDP and Ishin, so it's important to keep up appearances that it's still being decided.
    But even if Osaka becomes the secondary capital, there's no need to concentrate everything there.
    They could split functions off, like how the Agency for Cultural Affairs was relocated to Kyoto.
    38AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:28
    The top model gracing the cover → Tokyo

    The bargain-bin reader models → the secondary capital
    75AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:54
    Re: #38
    In this case, "top model" means a Halmek-style model (Halmek is a lifestyle magazine for older women, known for its older cover models).
    50AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:33
    Factoring in international name recognition too, Osaka seems like the sensible pick, no?
    53AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:37
    Re: #50
    Right now, the most famous Japanese city worldwide after Tokyo is Fukushima.
    Before Fukushima got famous, it was Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
    Osaka ranks below all of those — unlike those three, it's not even in the textbooks.
    56AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:38
    Re: #50
    Toyota, known the world over (i.e., Nagoya/Aichi's claim to fame).
    55AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:38
    They're not even debating whether a secondary capital is needed in the first place, are they?
    60AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:43
    Re: #55
    Public interest is low.
    People know about it, they just don't care.
    135AnonymousSep 20, 2026 21:11
    Re: #55
    It's clear a secondary capital is needed — badly enough that the debate is almost moot.
    But the cost issue does need to be hashed out, and the pro-Tokyo vested-interest crowd is fighting it hard.
    A lot of people would be in trouble if Tokyo's value took a hit.
    68AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:46
    Secondary capital infrastructure development plan


    Expo infrastructure development plan


    They match.
    79AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:01
    Looks like the secondary capital won't be decided until next fall at the earliest.

    The government aims to settle the designation criteria for the secondary capital by around late October 2026, with actual designation expected from autumn 2027 (Reiwa 9) onward.

    ・Upcoming schedule

    Late October 2026
    Cabinet order decision setting the designation criteria

    Promulgation: November 2026

    ・Publication of basic thinking on the secondary capital concept
    Around October 2027

    ・Compilation of basic policy (Cabinet decision)

    Autumn 2027 onward

    https://share.google/aimode/QqjeU74KbjpT080mm
    87AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:08
    Re: #79
    Apparently "within one year" for the basic policy means this:

    The deadline is a "maximum of one year," not "you get a year to do nothing."

    ❌ Misreading
    "Nothing has to happen for a year"
    "It's fine to make it a year from now"
    "It can be shelved for a year"

    ✔ Correct meaning
    Once enacted, the government "must begin work immediately and complete it within one year at the latest."

    In other words:
    – Enactment = obligation kicks in
    – Within one year = the upper limit of the deadline
    – Work starts right away
    That's the structure, apparently.
    104AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:34
    Re: #79
    Also, since it hasn't actually been enacted yet, these designation criteria and so on aren't official output of the promotion headquarters, so legally they're not valid.
    84AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:06
    Re: #54
    A city that can't even properly pull off the Asian Games has no business being a secondary capital.
    116AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:47
    The secondary capital should be Edo-Tokyo.
    Move the capital back to Kyoto.
    It's complete once the Emperor returns there.
    119AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:49
    Re: #116
    Capital: Kyoto
    Secondary capital: Osaka-to (Greater Osaka)

    Tokyo → Edo Prefecture
    125AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:54
    Re: #116
    Unfortunately, Kyoto's just the countryside, lol.
    173AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:41
    Osaka and Hokkaido already have a cooperative relationship, so there's a chance both get picked.

    Aichi/Nagoya turned down Osaka Governor Yoshimura's request to team up (and is instead trying to strengthen ties with Tokyo's Governor Koike), leaving it isolated with no alliance with any other candidate city.

    For something like this, you're better off pairing with another candidate city than going solo —
    but Aichi's Governor Oyama doesn't seem to get that.
    175AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:47
    Re: #173
    Realistically, do you think Aichi — stuck right between Tokyo and Osaka — would actually get picked?
    199AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:21
    Re: #173
    Governor Yoshimura and Governor Suzuki have already signed an agreement in Sapporo.
    They're working out a roadmap where, if the greater Tokyo area is wiped out, Osaka and Hokkaido cooperate and split roles to help rebuild Japan.
    Fukuoka and Aichi need to come up with a plan that tops that.
    182AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:58
    Kyoto folks would be furious if they got stuck being the secondary capital.
    185AnonymousSep 20, 2026 22:59
    Re: #182
    Kyoto is the true capital.
    186AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:03
    Re: #182
    Kyoto's broke anyway, so it doesn't even qualify.
    189AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:08
    Re: #185
    The character "京" (kyo) means "the place where the Emperor resides."
    But the Emperor hasn't lived in Kyoto since the Meiji era.
    So Kyoto calling itself "kyo" is basically fraud.
    194AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:15
    Re: #189
    Kyoto is watched over by more spirits of past emperors than anywhere else in Japan, so it's the true "kyo."

    The imperial spirits enshrined in Tokyo are destined to eventually be reduced to ash by earthquakes and flooding, washing out into the polluted waters of Tokyo Bay.

    🪙 Number of imperial mausoleums (per the Imperial Household Agency website)

    ◆Kyoto: 69
    ◆Nara: 31
    ◆Osaka: 16
    ・Emperor Chuai, Emperor Ojin, Emperor Nintoku
    ・Emperor Richu, Emperor Hanzei, Emperor Ingyo
    ・Emperor Yuryaku, Emperor Seinei, Emperor Ninken
    ・Emperor Keitai, Emperor Ankan, Emperor Bidatsu
    ・Emperor Yomei, Empress Suiko, Emperor Kotoku
    ・Emperor Go-Murakami
    ◆Tokyo: 4
    ・Emperor Taisho, Emperor Showa, the Emperor Emeritus (Heisei)
    ・Emperor Naruhito (Reiwa)
    197AnonymousSep 20, 2026 23:18
    Re: #189
    > the Emperor hasn't lived in Kyoto since the Meiji era
    > so Kyoto calling itself "kyo" is fraud
    Wherever the Emperor is (supposed to) reside, the Takamikura is kept —
    the so-called imperial throne.
    It's been sitting in Kyoto's Shishinden Hall this whole time.
    Tokyo doesn't have one.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    The secondary capital initiative is a system for designating, in advance, a city that could take over part of the government’s functions if a major disaster ever knocked out the capital. The designation criteria are set to be decided by cabinet order in late October 2026, promulgated that November, with actual designation expected from autumn 2027 onward. In the thread, Osaka is widely seen as the frontrunner, though some argue the “it’s all about Osaka” impression stems from the LDP-Ishin relationship, with Fukuoka, Nagoya, and Hokkaido’s own ambitions further splitting opinion. One thing readers can easily get wrong is that the secondary capital isn’t a plan to relocate the capital’s functions wholesale — it also covers proposals to disperse just certain functions, similar to the Agency for Cultural Affairs’ move to Kyoto, a point that comes up in the thread’s replies as well. The historical claims that Kyoto is the “true capital,” backed by counts of imperial mausoleums, are less about policy and more a clash of regional pride.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (News Speed+) thread “Secondary capital designation to weigh multiple cities, Osaka “not a done deal”.”

  • 11 People Fall on Escalator at JR Nagano Station, 4-Year-Old Among 2 Injured

    On the afternoon of the 20th, an accident occurred in which escalator users at the east exit of JR Nagano Station fell one after another, leaving two people—including a 4-year-old boy—with minor injuries. SBC Shinetsu Broadcasting reported the news at 3:44 p.m. that day. Thread posters were split on the cause: was it the practice of “leaving one side open for walkers,” or a jam caused by the person at the front stumbling near the bottom of the escalator? There was also a side debate over terminology—whether to call the phenomenon a “shogi-piece pile-up” (things toppling forward, like standing shogi tiles) or a “domino effect” (toppling backward).

    9/20 (Sun) 15:44 JST

    SBC Shinetsu Broadcasting

    On the 20th, an accident occurred on an escalator at the east exit of JR Nagano Station in Nagano City in which several people fell, leaving two people, including a boy, with minor injuries.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    5AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:07
    They were probably walking on the open side, weren't they?
    Seriously, people need to stop doing that.
    25AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:10
    Re: #5
    That's got nothing to do with it.
    47AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:16
    Re: #5
    It's the opposite.
    If one side is left open, there's room to escape.
    If it's not left open, you literally get a domino effect dragging down everyone behind.
    130AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:40
    Re: #5
    A crowded escalator is exactly when you should leave one side open.
    https://youtube.com/shorts/aRn8A3gWuo0
    8AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:07
    Even if the person at the front falls on a down escalator, the people behind wouldn't fall too, right?
    Doesn't make sense to me.
    23AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:10
    Re: #8
    Didn't they fall right at the exit?
    Sounds like the next person got tripped up by them and fell too, and it snowballed into a domino effect.
    24AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:10
    Re: #8
    Can you not grasp the concept of a jam-up…?
    34AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:13
    Re: #8
    Of course they'd fall—if someone trips right at the exit and blocks it, there's nowhere for the people behind to go.
    12AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:08
    So someone messed up right at the end where it levels out onto flat ground, and it turned into a chain-reaction pileup?
    They were probably looking at their phone—hard to dodge that.
    31AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:13
    Re: #12 is the only reasonable post in this whole thread.
    14AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:09
    Isn't it the case nowadays that calling it a 'shogi-daoshi' (shogi-piece pile-up) gets complaints from somewhere?
    110AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:33
    Re: #14
    Domino's Pizza would probably complain too if you called it a 'domino effect.'
    17AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:09
    Probably like a multi-car pileup at the back of a traffic jam, I dunno.
    21AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:10
    See?
    This is exactly why you should always leave one side open.
    If one side's open, even if the person in front falls, you can dodge sideways.
    57AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:20
    Re: #21 Re: #47
    Unless it's extremely crowded, wouldn't spreading out across both sides increase the average gap between people and make a pile-up less likely?
    26AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:11
    I once had a foreign tourist's suitcase come tumbling down on me on an airport up-escalator.
    32AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:13
    So the person at the front falls and ends up lying at the bottom exit, but the escalator keeps moving so the people behind can't avoid them and fall too, one after another? Just jump over them.
    39AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:14
    Re: #32
    What if the guy behind was an 80-year-old man?
    50AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:16
    Re: #32
    That's probably it.
    To minimize the damage, you need the courage to just step over the first person who fell.
    33AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:13
    A 'domino effect' means things falling from back to front, though.
    131AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:40
    Re: #33
    Exactly this.
    I genuinely don't get how people mix it up.
    41AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:14
    ♪WOW WOW WOW
    ♪The shore is imagination
    ♪Escalation
    ♪WOW WOW WOW
    ♪Communication with you
    ♪Escalation
    (riffing on song lyrics that pun 'escalation' with 'escalator')
    102AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:32
    (;゚Д゚) QTE failed
    109AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:33
    Re: #102
    That Resident Evil QTE is unforgivable. (バイオ/'Bio' = the Japanese name for the Resident Evil games)
    121AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:37
    Re: #102
    What even is a QTE?
    103AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:32
    Re: #3
    But shogi pieces weren't originally meant to be toppled for fun, right?
    Dominoes are made to be toppled from the start.

    People aren't meant to be toppled for fun either, but if you're going to topple them anyway, maybe 'shogi-daoshi' is the more accurate term.
    116AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:35
    Re: #103 There's actually an old game called 'shogi-daoshi' where you stand shogi pieces in a row and skillfully knock them down, you know.
    120AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:37
    Re: #103
    Do you not know how dominoes are played?
    145AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:43
    Don't walk on escalators, seriously.
    Hope this incident leads to an actual ban on walking on them.
    152AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:45
    Re: #145
    Then you just stand there forever.
    Everyone behind you is gonna pile on top of you lol
    203AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:02
    Re: #145
    No matter what, you have to take that last step to actually get off, right?
    So walking partway doesn't really change anything—walking has nothing to do with this accident.
    The person who fell was just slow.
    182AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:55
    Is it okay to kick people who stop dead right after getting off the escalator?
    187AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:57
    Re: #182
    They should pass a law letting you kick people who slowly shuffle down stairs while staring at their phones too.
    188AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:58
    Re: #182
    Well, I guess that's fair enough.
    194AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:00
    Re: #182
    Go ahead and give 'em a good one.
    191AnonymousSep 20, 2026 19:59
    https://media1.tenor.com/m/sq-xDRRv7h8AAAAd/cat-nothing-to-see-here.gif

    Background and Key Points of Discussion

    At Japanese train stations, the practice of “leaving one side open” while riding escalators has become an entrenched, de facto custom over many years. However, following a string of falling accidents linked to walking on escalators across the country, railway companies and escalator manufacturers have recently stepped up calls for passengers to “stand still on both sides instead of walking.” The SBC Shinetsu Broadcasting article on this incident does not specify the direct cause of the fall, so it remains unclear whether the “leave one side open” custom itself was to blame, or whether it was simply a “jam” caused by someone stumbling near the exit. Thread posters were similarly split between these two views, and some also pointed out that, strictly speaking, a “shogi-piece pile-up” should refer to things toppling forward, while a “domino effect” refers to toppling backward. Further details on the actual cause and circumstances of the accident will have to wait for statements from police and the railway company.

    *This article is compiled as excerpts and a summary from the 5channel (News Speed+) thread “[Nagano] ‘Escalator Turns Into a Domino Effect’ — 11 Fall on JR Nagano Station Escalator, 2 Injured Including a 4-Year-Old Boy.”

  • ‘My Boyfriend’s Kanji Is So Weak I’m Losing Interest’ Post Goes Viral — He Even Read ‘Kaijō’ (Doors Open) as ‘Kaiba’ (Horse Feed)

    A post on Girls Channel titled “My boyfriend can’t read kanji and it’s turning me off” became a hot topic on 5channel’s News Speed+ board. According to the poster, her boyfriend misreads 開場 (kaijō, “doors open”) as “kaiba” (which sounds like horse feed), 御霊前 (goreizen, the phrase written on condolence-money envelopes) as “mitama mae,” and 用いる (mochiiru, “to use”) as “yōiru.” When the story was reposted to the thread, sympathy poured in (“no way, couldn’t deal”), but posters soon started confessing kanji they themselves had misread — like 就中 (nakanzuku), 月次 (getsuji), and 重複 (jūfuku/chōfuku) — until the discussion drifted from right-or-wrong readings to “just how ashamed should you feel about not being able to read kanji?”

    In mid-June, a topic titled “My boyfriend can’t read kanji and it’s cooling my feelings for him” was posted on Girls Channel and sparked a big reaction.

    The original poster is troubled by her boyfriend’s poor kanji reading.

    “He often misreads things — like 開場 as ‘kaiba,’ 御霊前 as ‘mitama mae,’ 用いる as ‘yōiru.’ I wonder if he’s just weak with kanji, but I haven’t really said anything about it. Am I overthinking this?”

    Source: news.livedoor.com / Original article here

    10AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:09
    If he can at least read 'mitama' right, that's good enough, lol
    14AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:09
    Re: #10
    Why would he even know 'mitama' in the first place?
    28AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:12
    Adults who are "ii toshi shitsu" (typo for "ii toshi shite," meaning "despite being a grown adult") and still write "yutteru" instead of "itteru" (baby talk for "saying") are hopeless
    47AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:14
    Re: #28
    Lol, "ii toshi shitsu"
    81AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:18
    Re: #28
    Care to say that in actual Japanese?
    34AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:13
    Got mocked for not being able to read 就中 (nakanzuku, meaning "among others/especially")
    60AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:15
    Re: #34
    Well, it's a pretty unusual reading anyway — it comes from classical Chinese-style kanbun
    88AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:18
    Re: #34
    Oh my, that's high level
    Sounds fun
    49AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:14
    I'd been reading 月次 as "tsukiji" at work this whole time — like the fish market — someone could've corrected me sooner…
    67AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:16
    Re: #49
    Well, it does sound like "tsukinami" (meaning "trite/common")
    What an embarrassing guy
    52AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:15
    I've sometimes misread 控訴 (kōso, "appeal") as "teiso"
    72AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:17
    Re: #52
    Once you learn it wrong, it's hard to correct, huh lol
    Like reading 重複 as "jūfuku."
    96AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:19
    Re: #72
    "Jūfuku" isn't actually wrong, you know
    137AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:23
    Re: #72
    Seems like "jūfuku" is basically accepted now lol
    I once corrected someone with "It's chōfuku!" and they pulled out a dictionary — turns out it's fine these days
    54AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:15
    Monthly-contract parking lots (月極, correctly read "tsukigime")
    The nationwide "Gekkyoku Group" (joking like the misreading is a company name)
    107AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:20
    Re: #54
    Japan's biggest building owner — "Mr. Teiso" (from the 定礎 cornerstone plaques seen on every building, joked about as if it's one guy's name)
    56AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:15
    KAIBA! KAIBA! KAIBA!

    65AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:15
    There was an old Kobae chocolate-stick commercial where I think it was Morita from V6 who read it as "ko… kowaza…" and the whole store went awkwardly silent — what was that commercial even about?
    117AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:21
    Re: #65
    Speaking of Kobae commercials, Yuri Mari used to appear in them back in the day.
    "Yuri" there is actress Yuri Nakamura, who passed away recently.
    68AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:16
    The charm of people who can barely read kanji but get super picky about how to pronounce Iwo Jima (硫黄島)
    87AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:18
    Re: #68
    The US Navy's amphibious assault ship is literally named "Iwo Jima," so don't get so worked up about it
    75AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:17
    There's no such thing as being "strong" or "weak" at Japanese — it's just a language
    79AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:18
    Re: #75
    But don't people say things like "strong in Japanese class" or "weak at math"?
    83AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:18
    Some people call South Korea's Incheon Airport "Nigawa," but in Japanese it's actually read "Jinsen"
    162AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:25
    Re: #83
    The place with the Hanshin Racecourse is the real "Nigawa"
    90AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:18
    He can read "mitama" correctly?
    And yet he can't handle 開場 as anything but "kaiba"? No way that's true
    108AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:20
    Re: #90
    "Kaijō" (doors open) and "kaien" (show starts) usually come as a pair, so
    I wonder how he read "kaien"
    106AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:20
    "Maeba" for 前場 (the morning trading session)
    "Oishō" for 追証 (a margin call)
    127AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:21
    Re: #106
    Is "oishō" even the official reading?
    People saying "keitsune" for 経常 (meaning "recurring/ordinary") don't make sense to me either
    112AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:20
    You can graduate college and still become an announcer at a major TV network even without being able to read 旧中山道 (Kyū-Nakasendō), so don't sweat it.
    132AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:22
    Re: #112
    "Ichinichi-jū"… "yamamichi"
    113AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:20
    People who do that weird conversion where things end in "~itteru wa"
    or
    people who answer "Did you eat breakfast?" with "I had a sandwich" — I want to keep my distance from people like that.
    145AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:23
    Re: #113
    "Did you eat breakfast?" — "I had a sandwich."

    There's nothing wrong with that.
    Are you an idiot?
    154AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:23
    The annoying thing is, once the number of people who can't read kanji passes a certain point, the ones who CAN read it correctly start getting treated like the weird ones, lol
    160AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:25
    Re: #154
    That seriously gives me the "confused space cat" face lol (a popular reaction meme for bewildered confusion)
    173AnonymousSep 20, 2026 20:25
    Re: #154
    These days there are actually more people who read 他人事 as "taningoto" than the traditionally correct "hitogoto"

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    The original source is an advice post on Girls Channel, and it’s worth noting that 5channel is only relaying it secondhand. In the thread, some pointed out that reading 重複 as “jūfuku” is actually accepted in dictionaries — an example of a reading long dismissed as a “mistake” turning out to be within acceptable range. How well someone reads kanji tends to vary with age and job-related experience, and growing reliance on smartphone auto-conversion — which cuts down on chances to actually write by hand — is likely part of the background, though the thread itself doesn’t dig into that. Note that a few comments crudely equated “can’t read kanji” with a general lack of ability, and those posts have been excluded from this article.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (News Speed+) thread “Post About Boyfriend’s ‘Kanji Too Weak’ Goes Viral — Misreads ‘Kaijō’ as ‘Kaiba,’ ‘Goreizen’ as ‘Mitama Mae,’ Draws ‘No Way I Could Deal With That’ Comments.”

  • Osaka’s 90-Minute Stone-Polishing Event Gets Flooded with Applications — 5ch: “Isn’t This Basically Zen?”

    An event held at LUCUA Osaka on the first day of a five-day holiday weekend — called “Ultra Polishing” and consisting of nothing but 90 minutes of polishing a stone — reportedly saw such a rush of applications that its 45 slots filled up almost instantly. By deliberately turning “wasted time” with no payoff into a product, the event has drawn attention as a contrarian response to the “time-performance” (taipa) mindset that prizes efficiency above all. On the 5ch thread, many commenters shared their own experiences of getting absorbed in simple repetitive tasks, while others clashed over how to even interpret the term “taipa” itself.

    On the 19th, the first day of the five-day “Silver Week” holiday, an unusual event called “Ultra Polishing” — in which participants do nothing but polish a stone for 90 minutes straight — was held at LUCUA Osaka, a commercial facility in Osaka’s Kita Ward. Despite being plain and offering no reward whatsoever, all 45 reservation slots reportedly filled up almost as soon as registration opened.

    In an era of efficiency-obsession where terms like “taipa” have taken hold, this event deliberately throws down a challenge with the idea that “wasted time is the ultimate luxury.” We visited the venue to find out just what draws so many people to it.

    (By Seira Unekouchi)

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    12AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:57
    I love just endlessly polishing mud balls (dorodango) — it gives me that same cool, tingling feeling at the back of my head you get from staring at a candle flame.
    54AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:06
    Re: #12
    Nice writing — is that a byproduct of all that mud-ball polishing?
    13AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:57
    Maybe I'll try grinding a lens out of a glass plate too.
    97AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:17
    Re: #13
    I'll carve a skull out of quartz then…
    14AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:58
    People who slap "taipa" and "cospa" (cost-performance) labels on everything should just hurry up and die. If we're all going to die eventually anyway, work and studying in this world are meaningless.
    167AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:33
    Re: #14
    Exactly! Everything in this world is just a way to kill time until we die! If you can't enjoy free time, you might as well go check out the afterlife!
    15AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:58
    Rethink what "taipa" actually means. Wasting 10 minutes on a crappy video is worse performance than spending 60 minutes on something genuinely satisfying.
    45AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:04
    Re: #15
    Isn't that value-performance rather than time-performance? That sounds more like "cospa" territory.
    16AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:58
    It's probably close to the meditation that sharp businesspeople and executives practice. This one's a bit too long, but making it a habit boosts your performance when it counts.
    24AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:00
    Re: #16
    Meditation is like defragging your mind — you sleep great afterward.
    47AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:04
    Over 1,000 people on the cancellation waitlist — that's not "taipa" at all lol. Just go do it by a riverbed already lol.
    103AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:19
    Re: #47
    Children polishing and stacking stones at Sai no Kawara — "stack one for father, stack two for mother" (a nod to the old Buddhist legend of children piling stones on the riverbank of the afterlife).
    60AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:07
    Keeping a pet, spending hours hand-washing your car, pulling weeds, power-washing your fence with a Kärcher, taking up some other time-consuming hobby — you don't need to polish stones to deliberately carve out time to just laze around.
    75AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:11
    Re: #60
    Isn't the point that you can brag about it to other people afterward?
    64AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:08
    Even a stone shines once you polish it… and yet look at you guys…
    72AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:10
    Re: #64
    I used to polish mud balls (dorodango) — is that still a thing kids are into?
    113AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:22
    Re: #64
    Everyone here already shines without any polishing.
    77AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:11
    I do something similar for work — I spend all day slicing blocks of beef thin on a slicer. It takes about 15 minutes to finish cutting one block. While I'm working I feel like I'm copying sutras (shakyo); my mind goes blank and everything just clears out.
    140AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:28
    Re: #77
    I want to switch to a job like that. I'm exhausted.
    86AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:13
    In terms of sheer pointlessness, it's really not that different from video games.
    100AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:18
    Re: #86
    Those days spent hunting for the Muramasa blade in Wizardry…
    91AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:15
    Sounds like popping bubble wrap. Whoever figured out how to turn this into money is a genius.
    96AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:17
    Re: #91
    Wait, they're charging people money to do this?
    93AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:16
    Isn't this basically Zen? Like the old story of polishing a roof tile trying to turn it into a mirror.
    111AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:21
    Re: #93
    Japanese people have really warped their understanding of the Zen spirit — the moment they get free time, they suddenly can't sit still.
    101AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:19
    Re: #97
    A crystal skull, huh. I hear there are quite a few quartz collectors out there, so it might actually sell.
    123AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:24
    Re: #101
    Manage your "taipa" carefully, crank out a bunch, and cash in.
    105AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:20
    What do people who keep going on about "taipa" actually do with all that precious time they supposedly save?
    114AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:22
    Re: #105
    Probably just burn it away listlessly. By that point their dopamine's already run dry anyway.
    120AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:23
    Re: #105
    Apparently the logic is that watching dramas and anime at 2x speed lets you get through twice as many. Though they also admitted they barely remember any of the content!
    112AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:21
    Apparently the only people who go to this are middle-aged guys who never cared about "taipa" to begin with.
    126AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:25
    Re: #112
    Being a middle-aged guy myself, I totally get why this would be soothing.
    125AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:24
    I don't think doing something meaningless is the right approach.
    136AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:27
    Re: #125
    If something has meaning, then there's room for failure and success — like figuring out how to polish more, more efficiently. People probably just got sick of all that.

    Background and Key Points of Debate

    “Taipa” (short for “time performance”) is a term that spread mainly among Gen Z starting in the early 2020s, describing behavior — like watching videos at double speed or consuming summarized information — that prioritizes satisfaction per unit of time. This event stands out for deliberately turning its opposite, “wasted time,” into a product, and the fact that applications flooded in for a mere 45 slots speaks to just how much it resonated. On the thread, many comments approvingly compared getting absorbed in simple repetitive tasks to meditation or sutra-copying, while others pushed back, arguing that rejecting “taipa” outright is itself a form of not thinking things through — so opinions on the taipa mindset are far from unanimous. Some posts also drew an easy connection between stone-polishing and Zen practice, but it’s worth noting that the article itself never frames the event as Buddhist training — it’s presented simply as a way to let people experience the benefits of “wastefulness” firsthand.

    *This article is compiled by excerpting and summarizing the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “Deliberately ignoring “taipa,” all you do is polish a stone for 90 straight minutes… “Immersion” and “savoring wastefulness” turn out to have a healing effect.”

  • “Japan’s Biggest Imoni (Taro Stew) Party”: Excavator Stirs 3.2 Tons of Taro in a Giant Pot — Yamagata City

    Yamagata City’s annual “Japan’s No. 1 Imoni Party” was held on the riverbank, where about 30,000 servings of imoni (a taro stew) were made in “Nabe Taro III,” a giant pot 6.5 meters in diameter. The ingredients included 3.2 tons of Yamagata-grown taro, 1.2 tons of beef, and 3,500 negi (long green onions), plus equally massive amounts of seasonings — 700 liters of soy sauce, 200 kg of sugar, and more. What caught fire on the forum thread was the hygiene of the large excavator used to stir the pot, with posters offering conflicting claims like “the bucket is custom-made, unpainted stainless steel,” sparking debate. The thread also branched into a regional comparison of imoni recipes — Yamagata’s version uses soy sauce and beef, while Miyagi’s is closer to a miso-based pork soup — with each Tohoku prefecture having its own take.

    An event called “Japan’s No. 1 Imoni Party,” where the Yamagata regional dish “imoni” (taro stew) is cooked in a massive pot, was held on the riverbank in Yamagata City and drew large crowds.

    “Japan’s No. 1 Imoni Party” is an autumn tradition in Yamagata, held every year on the riverbank in Yamagata City, where imoni is cooked in a giant pot 6.5 meters in diameter named “Nabe Taro III.”

    On the 20th, to make about 30,000 servings of imoni, organizers prepared 3.2 tons of Yamagata-grown taro, 1.2 tons of beef, and 3,500 long green onions, along with seasonings including 700 liters of soy sauce and 200 kg of sugar.

    Source: news.web.nhk / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 20, 2026 16:51
    I'm a bit worried about the hygiene here.
    8AnonymousSep 20, 2026 16:52
    Re: #1
    Stirring it with industrially painted equipment is gross.
    16AnonymousSep 20, 2026 16:56
    Re: #3
    So are you also going to complain about the Self-Defense Force's field-kitchen shovels?
    107AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:21
    Re: #3
    They wash the brand-new excavator with dish soap and coat it with cooking oil before using it for the stew.
    189AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:58
    Re: #3
    Re: #8
    Saw this on TikTok yesterday — they disassemble and clean a brand-new one,
    and use margarine instead of grease.
    5AnonymousSep 20, 2026 16:51
    I'd rather have tonjiru (pork miso soup)
    Or failing that, chicken-salt chankonabe

    Plain vegetables alone sounds rough.
    113AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:24
    Re: #5
    Taro's the whole point, though
    You don't put taro in tonjiru
    There's something nice about really savoring taro on its own.
    171AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:48
    Re: #5
    The Yamagata version has beef in it, you know.
    243AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:21
    Re: #5
    There's meat in it.
    23AnonymousSep 20, 2026 16:57
    Hmm…
    Aren't they injecting grease into the moving parts?
    28AnonymousSep 20, 2026 16:59
    Re: #23
    Of course — butter and cooking oil for that part.
    29AnonymousSep 20, 2026 16:59
    Re: #23
    I think I saw somewhere before that they use salad oil.
    43AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:02
    Re: #23
    Actually, they use cooking oil.
    The excavator used is brand new, and afterward it gets auctioned off, selling for a premium as a lucky charm.
    31AnonymousSep 20, 2026 16:59
    Never had authentic imoni before
    Is it sweet?
    But it looks tasty with all that green onion in it.
    72AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:12
    Re: #31
    When I lived in Yamagata, I got invited to an imoni party thrown by friends, not the official event — it was delicious.

    Actually, apparently every Tohoku prefecture has similar events, each with its own character, and they're all supposed to be good.
    83AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:15
    Re: #31
    Is this the season Tohoku folks get restless?

    Yamagata's is beef with a soy-sauce base, a little sweet.
    Miyagi's is closer to tonjiru (though locals get mad if you call it that).

    But there's also something great about making it outdoors on a nice day and eating it together while chatting.
    37AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:00
    Tohoku food seems like it'd be pretty salty.
    45AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:03
    Re: #37
    It's the soy sauce that's different.
    Kansai people often say Kanto soy sauce is salty, but Tohoku's is even saltier.
    68AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:10
    Re: #45
    When I moved to Kagoshima, the supermarket had something like 30 kinds of soy sauce, but every single one was sweet — I was in agony. Eventually found
    a Noda-made soy sauce (Noda being Kikkoman's hometown) at a 7-Eleven and was saved.
    98AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:18
    Re: #45
    Depending on where you are, Kanto soy sauce can actually be way saltier. Kanagawa's is a good example.
    82AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:15
    We scrubbed the giant pot with a deck brush
    87AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:16
    The moment they put industrial paint on the bucket, it's a no-go.
    103AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:20
    Re: #87 Is this bucket custom-made? It's not in any catalog, and it's thin stainless steel.
    105AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:20
    Re: #87
    The bucket is a custom, all-stainless-steel piece.
    No paint on it at all.
    108AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:22
    Re: #103
    Re: #105
    They really thought this through!
    247AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:23
    Re: #103
    Their approach to imoni is almost too clean.
    111AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:23
    Never tried it, but what's it close to — tonjiru with the pork swapped for beef?
    120AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:25
    Re: #111
    Same here, never had it, but I'd guess it's closer to kenchinjiru.
    Actually, is kenchinjiru even a regional dish?
    175AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:50
    Re: #120
    Oh, it's soy sauce-based!
    Then I guess it's like kenchinjiru with beef.
    174AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:49
    If there's food to spare, feed it to the athletes stuck with that garbage-tier meal at the Asian Games, Japan
    203AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:05
    Re: #174
    Giving people from Asia a taste of Kanto food… (trails off, implying it's bad)
    184AnonymousSep 20, 2026 17:52
    They should invite welfare recipients from across the country for free
    Transportation costs included, of course.
    199AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:02
    Re: #184
    Feeding Kanto food to people west of Kanto would basically be abuse.
    211AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:08
    Re: #184
    Please donate 700 yen per bowl of imoni as a sponsorship fee.
    Reserved seating is 4,500 yen for all-you-can-eat imoni.
    Kids are 2,200 yen.
    196AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:00
    214AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:09
    Nice



    222AnonymousSep 20, 2026 18:12
    Re: #214
    Is the competition really just about pot size?
    I'd rather they competed on flavor.

    Background and key points of this discussion

    “Japan’s No. 1 Imoni Party” is an annual autumn tradition held on the banks of the Mamigasaki River in Yamagata City, famous for the spectacle of a giant excavator stirring a massive 6.5-meter-diameter pot called “Nabe Taro III.” The biggest point of disagreement on the thread was the hygiene of the excavator’s bucket: some worried that “stirring with an industrially painted bucket is gross,” while multiple replies countered that “the bucket is custom-made, unpainted stainless steel” and that “a brand-new machine is cleaned and coated in cooking oil.” The article alone doesn’t settle which account is accurate, but the event isn’t a one-off — it’s run annually for years with no reported history of food-poisoning issues. Another thread of discussion compared regional versions of the dish across Tohoku — Yamagata’s soy-sauce-and-beef version versus Miyagi’s miso-based, pork-soup-like version — with each prefecture having its own take on ingredients and seasoning. That’s a separate topic from the safety of the imoni itself, and it grew into a casual side conversation about regional food culture.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread ““Japan’s No. 1 Imoni Party” Preps 3.2 Tons of Taro — Excavator Also Makes an Appearance — Yamagata City.”

  • World’s Largest Beer Festival Kicks Off in Munich — 5ch Reacts: ‘I Can’t Drink a Full Liter Anymore’

    The world’s largest beer festival, Oktoberfest, kicked off in Munich, Germany, on September 19. What began in 1810 as a celebration of a Bavarian prince’s wedding has grown into an event drawing more than 6 million visitors every year. On 5ch, threads lit up with trivia-style chatter — how expensive the beer is on-site, why the festival’s name doesn’t match when it’s actually held, and the different customs around whether beer should be served chilled — with some users also bringing up similar events held in Japan, like the one in Nagoya.

    The world’s largest beer festival, “Oktoberfest,” has begun in the southern German city of Munich.

    Oktoberfest is a beer festival drawing more than 6 million visitors, said to have started in 1810 to mark the wedding of a prince of the Kingdom of Bavaria at the time.

    On opening day, September 19, the mayor of Munich tapped a keg of specially brewed beer in time with the countdown, loudly declaring the festival open.

    Source: news.web.nhk / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:15
    Japan has access to great tap water, so alcoholic water isn't necessary
    127AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:12
    Re: #3

    (°∀°) Booze isn't for acting tough, it's to enrich your life

    (°∀°)つ chicken cutlet
    (°~°) *nom nom*
    6AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:19
    These days Japanese-made beer and whisky are actually the better ones
    19AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:33
    Re: #6
    Is this what happens to a brain that's watched too many 'Japan is amazing' videos?
    111AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:57
    Re: #6
    Like they say, 'a frog in a well knows nothing of the ocean' (i.e. you don't know what you're missing)
    11AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:24
    I'm an old man now, so I can't drink a full liter anymore
    21AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:34
    Re: #11
    I used to love beer so much I'd knock back like 4 tall cans a day, but lately I just have one and switch to highballs the rest of the night
    18AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:32
    270 yen for 100ml? That's way too pricey
    134AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:32
    Re: #18
    Well now, that's one loooong beer (drawn-out, slurred delivery in the original)
    26AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:37
    In Japan too, a medium draft at an izakaya runs 700 yen
    That's about 1400 yen per liter
    Factor in the weak yen (double that), and it's 2800 yen
    44AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:47
    Re: #26
    A medium draft isn't even 500ml though
    28AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:38
    What's the deal with the girl whose apron bow is tied in the middle?
    https://www.oktober-fest.jp/images/uniq/img-costume-02.png
    74AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:01
    Re: #28
    Going by that classification (the dirndl bow-position code), I'd guess middle means underage, or if she's an adult, a virgin looking for a partner?
    75AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:02
    Re: #28
    Amazing, this should really catch on in Japan too
    33AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:39
    Who even goes to these things?
    You can't drink that much anyway, it's not even all-you-can-drink
    and on top of that it's expensive
    36AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:41
    Re: #33
    Have you never been? It's packed out in every major city, no matter where
    46AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:47
    It's still September though
    48AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:48
    Re: #46
    I always wondered about that myself, apparently this is why
    I figured it might be some old-calendar thing but…
    https://omatsurijapan.com/blog/oktoberfest-trivia/
    70AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:56
    Re: #46
    Forget September — they even hold one somewhere in Japan in spring.
    55AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:50
    German beer's great, I drink a lot of Heineken and Hoegaarden
    78AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:06
    Re: #55
    Walking right into it, huh
    Heineken (brewed by Kirin) Hoegaarden (brewed in Korea)
    167AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:20
    Re: #55
    Hoegaarden hasn't tasted the same since production moved to Korea…
    62AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:53
    Is it really true that beer over there is served room temperature?
    66AnonymousSep 20, 2026 10:56
    Re: #62
    In Germany, beer is a hot drink
    They often warm it up like heated sake
    It's a cold country after all (said jokingly)
    88AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:12
    Re: #62
    Dunno about Germany specifically, but there are tons of beer styles out there
    In Japan 99.9% of what's sold is just one fizzy, foamy type of beer
    so that's the only image Japanese people have of what beer even is
    90AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:14
    Re: #62
    At least at the Munich Oktoberfest, every beer served is cold.
    100AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:42
    I refuse to accept Japan's knockoff Oktoberfests where no woman dresses like this
    110AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:55
    Re: #100
    The Nagoya one has women dressed like that
    101AnonymousSep 20, 2026 11:43
    Beer over there isn't served ice-cold like in Japan, it's a bit warmer, right?
    Is that mostly down to the climate difference?
    113AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:01
    Re: #101
    If you travel around Asia you'll notice that in places hotter than Japan, beer tends to be lighter-bodied with ice-cold serving as the priority
    European beers tend to be heavier-flavored, and plenty aren't served chilled at all
    Japan sits somewhere in the middle
    156AnonymousSep 20, 2026 13:10
    Re: #101
    And here we go again…

    Top-fermented beer (ale): fine chilled or unchilled
    A brewing method that predates refrigeration
    i.e. one with roughly 4,000 years of history
    People who deliberately choose this style usually drink it at room temperature

    Bottom-fermented beer (lager): has to be served cold
    A method that spread alongside the rise of refrigeration
    Fermentation proceeds slowly, making the flavor easier to fine-tune
    For that reason, big manufacturers wanting to avoid flavor inconsistency mostly go with this style
    119AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:05
    I still haven't tried this 'Akaboshi' (Sapporo's classic Red Star lager) everyone goes on about
    Is that beer actually better than Asahi Super Dry?
    122AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:07
    Re: #119
    You mean this one?
    https://tblg.k-img.com/restaurant/images/Rvw/365263/640x640_rect_f48402850bed6f0beef21472c23a82ae.jpg
    126AnonymousSep 20, 2026 12:09
    Re: #122
    Yeah, that's the one — none of the places I go to actually carry it though

    Background and key points of this discussion

    Despite its name, Oktoberfest has, since the mid-19th century, actually been shifted earlier to run from late September through early October. The change was made so the festival could be held outdoors in mild autumn weather, and that practice continues today. The ‘chilled or not’ debate that came up in the thread isn’t just about climate — it also comes down to differences in brewing method, namely top-fermentation versus bottom-fermentation — so it’s not quite accurate to simply say ‘Germany is cold, so the beer is room temperature.’ There were also posts about the manufacturing and ownership ties behind brands like Heineken and Hoegaarden, but since corporate ownership structures and production sites can shift over time, that information shouldn’t be taken as definitive as posted. On pricing, it’s worth noting the local standard unit is the 1-liter mug, which can look pricier when compared directly to the several-hundred-ml medium draft served at Japanese izakayas.

    ※This article is an excerpt/summary compiled from the 5ch (News Bulletin+) thread “World’s Largest Beer Festival ‘Oktoberfest’ Kicks Off — Germany“.

  • Chinese Bamboo Shoots Fumigated With Sulfur for Pest Control, Authorities Trace Distribution Routes

    On September 18, the Market Supervision Administration of Qingyuan City in China’s Guangdong Province announced that edible bamboo shoots had been illegally treated with sulfur for pest control and disinfection. Authorities have seized raw materials and illegally processed goods and are tracing the distribution chain while questioning those involved. On 5ch, since most menma (fermented bamboo shoot ramen topping) and boiled bamboo shoots sold in Japan come from China, many users voiced anxiety along the lines of “we’ve probably already eaten this,” while others noted that sulfur itself is used in Japan too for bleaching and removing bitterness from certain crops, arguing that the treatment itself should be judged separately from its illegal use here — leaving reactions split.

    [Guangzhou — Nobuha Endo] The Market Supervision Administration of Qingyuan City in China’s Guangdong Province announced on the 18th that edible bamboo shoots had been illegally treated with sulfur for pest control and disinfection. Authorities have seized raw materials and illegally processed products and are also tracing the distribution channels. Police are questioning those involved.

    Yomiuri Shimbun

    Source: yomiuri.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 20, 2026 05:53
    Does China even have a concept of "illegal"?
    25AnonymousSep 20, 2026 06:36
    Re: #3
    They're probably stricter about legal compliance than Japan is.
    26AnonymousSep 20, 2026 06:39
    Re: #25
    Well, Japan's basically a country held together by treason charges anyway, lol
    7AnonymousSep 20, 2026 05:58
    Yeah, Japanese people have probably already been eating tons of this 😗
    95AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:20
    Re: #7
    Cabbage probably doesn't come in much, but bamboo shoots… man, the boiled ones come in by the truckload…
    97AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:21
    Re: #7
    Eating out = Chinese ingredients. Using domestic stuff would jack up the price.
    107AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:36
    Re: #7
    Shinachiku (an old-fashioned term for menma, literally "Chinese bamboo")! You eat ramen, don't you?
    11AnonymousSep 20, 2026 06:05
    Is the reason the Chinese government isn't cracking down hard because it's not meant for domestic consumption? Until this gets sorted, Japan can't exactly ban imports from China either, right? We're too cozy with them.
    96AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:21
    Re: #11
    They'll probably just say "We checked with the manufacturer and it's fine!" There was a deli dish I liked at the supermarket, but it's got bamboo shoots in it, so I'm done buying it. Other vegetables are sketchy too, though I guess it's a bit late to worry about that now.
    16AnonymousSep 20, 2026 06:10
    Sulfur itself isn't a problem — as long as it's properly desulfurized afterward.
    68AnonymousSep 20, 2026 07:46
    Re: #16
    Bleaching and removing bitterness with sulfur is actually done on quite a few crops in Japan too, isn't it? The real issue is whether the sulfur actually gets removed afterward.
    21AnonymousSep 20, 2026 06:25
    Chinese boiled bamboo shoots are absurdly huge compared to the Japanese ones. And yet they cost less than half as much.
    150AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:49
    Re: #21
    That's because they don't eat moso bamboo themselves — it's grown for export.
    22AnonymousSep 20, 2026 06:27
    If I check the origin on frozen food and it says China, I never buy it.
    98AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:22
    Re: #22
    It's used constantly in restaurants though. Theme parks are pretty much the same.
    36AnonymousSep 20, 2026 07:04
    Is there even any shinachiku that's not made in China?
    37AnonymousSep 20, 2026 07:06
    Re: #36
    There's Taiwanese-made stuff.
    46AnonymousSep 20, 2026 07:13
    Re: #36
    You can also make it from hachiku bamboo that's grown to about 2 meters, so a ramen shop near me used to make its own. Since farmers just cut down and toss out bamboo once it gets that big anyway, they'd buy it off hachiku bamboo farmers for next to nothing.
    56AnonymousSep 20, 2026 07:23
    The hot spring egg I had at Beppu Onsen had this insane sulfur smell, it was oddly fun.
    78AnonymousSep 20, 2026 07:56
    Re: #56
    Yeah, they do sell hot spring eggs there.
    62AnonymousSep 20, 2026 07:36
    Doesn't food fraud like this eventually circle back and end up on the upper class's plates too?
    66AnonymousSep 20, 2026 07:44
    Re: #62
    Apparently they buy specially cultivated food (grown to stricter standards, separate from the regular supply).
    63AnonymousSep 20, 2026 07:39
    I work in food production, and no matter how many times you tell some people "someone's going to eat this, you know," it just doesn't sink in for some of them.
    64AnonymousSep 20, 2026 07:43
    Re: #63
    Human psychology basically boils down to "as long as I'm not the one eating it, who cares."
    86AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:02
    Menma is mostly made in China anyway.
    112AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:42
    Re: #86
    I ate a ton of Chinese menma once and it wrecked my stomach — although apparently eating too much menma in general gives you loose stools regardless.
    90AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:12
    There's a ton of unsold Chinese-made okonomiyaki sitting at the supermarket. Bought one once, it wasn't good, checked the back — made in China, of course. The sauce even bragged "40% more!" and it didn't even come with bonito flakes or aonori.
    101AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:25
    Re: #90
    If you thaw it slowly and pan-fry it in sesame oil it's decent enough, but if you're going that far you might as well just make okonomiyaki from scratch.
    91AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:12
    It's a fine-driven economy right now, that's the reason. That's exactly why this kind of story keeps getting spotlighted lately — they pick fights over anything just to collect fines. Which just proves this stuff went completely unchecked until a few years ago.
    148AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:48
    Re: #91
    Ah, I see. So they crushed their own growth companies and tanked the economy with overproduction at state-owned enterprises, and now they're broke. Absolutely idiotic.
    104AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:33
    These stories just keep coming. Just ban imports from China already.
    116AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:44
    Re: #104
    That crowd cranks up the volume protesting American potato imports just to cover up the problems with Chinese products.
    115AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:43
    AI-generated answer:
    Sulfur itself isn't necessarily harmful in small amounts, but sulfur-containing gases such as hydrogen sulfide (H₂S) and sulfur dioxide (SO₂) are harmful when inhaled.
    152AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:50
    Re: #115
    Hydrogen sulfide is also given off by hot springs — fine in small amounts, but breathe in too much and it'll kill you.

    Background and Key Points of This Topic

    Sulfur fumigation is a technique long used for bleaching and pest control in dried goods and certain crops, and Japan itself permits its use within regulated limits. The problem here isn’t the use of sulfur itself, but the fact that the product was distributed without proper desulfurization, leaving residue behind. What made this case “illegal” was that the processing happened outside proper regulatory oversight — not that sulfur treatment is inherently dangerous. At the same time, menma and boiled bamboo shoots rely overwhelmingly on Chinese-sourced raw material, so even consumers trying to avoid Chinese products are likely consuming them unknowingly through restaurant meals and processed foods. In the thread, a knee-jerk “sulfur equals dangerous” reaction mixed with the more measured view that “it’s fine as long as regulations are followed” — though the article itself never addresses the key question of just how much residue actually ends up in the body.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “China Fumigates Bamboo Shoots With Sulfur for Pest Control, Authorities Trace Distribution Routes.”

  • Rice provisional prices plunge 30-40% across Tohoku — 5ch: ‘No reason to go back to rice’

    Provisional purchase prices for 2026-harvest rice (per 60kg, grade 1), announced by JA Zen-Noh’s Tohoku prefectural chapters, have fallen 30-40% from the previous year for major brands, returning to roughly 2024-harvest levels. The drop comes as unsold 2025-harvest rice stockpiles have built up nationwide, and prices could fall further. On 5ch, voices blaming agricultural policy and JA’s supply control for driving prices up and then crashing them mixed with consumers who switched to wheat and pasta during the price spike now saying “there’s no reason to go back to rice” — opinions split over next year’s production levels and the ongoing shift away from rice.

    Provisional prices for 2026-harvest rice (per 60kg, grade 1) — the advance payments that JA Zen-Noh’s Tohoku prefectural chapters make to local JA co-ops — are now all in. Major brands fell 30-40% from 2025-harvest levels, landing roughly back at 2024-harvest prices. The backdrop is a nationwide buildup of unsold 2025-harvest rice stock. Rice prices are expected to fall further, and a hit to producers’ finances looks unavoidable.

    The provisional prices for major brands announced by each prefectural chapter are shown in the table.

    Most brands now sit in the ¥17,000 range — a stark reversal from the roughly ¥30,000 seen for 2025-harvest rice.

    Source: kahoku.news / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 20, 2026 07:52
    Hokkaido: 5.04 million
    Tohoku: 8.21 million
    Kanto: 43.57 million
    Koshinetsu: 5.05 million
    Tokai: 14.70 million
    Hokuriku: 2.92 million
    Kansai: 20.18 million
    Chugoku: 7.60 million
    Shikoku: 3.63 million
    Kyushu: 12.50 million
    Okinawa: 1.47 million
    10AnonymousSep 20, 2026 07:59
    I mean, the number of stomachs in Japan hasn't changed
    but on top of hoarding stock by refusing to sell, they basically told people 'eat something else if you don't like it' and handed the market over to competitors.
    192AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:56
    Re: #10
    I've fully switched to flour, pasta, oatmeal, and occasionally pearl barley.
    I don't even bother keeping space around for storing rice grains anymore.
    12AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:00
    Once we get through this, production will drop next year
    and domestic rice will fetch high prices again.
    66AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:42
    Re: #12
    It won't drop that much.

    If anything, with the rice-acreage-reduction policy scrapped,
    output should rise at a steady clip.
    JA's middleman wholesalers overplayed their hand
    and ticked off PM Takaichi.
    96AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:57
    Re: #12
    No way.
    If prices spike again, the shift away from rice only accelerates.
    JA's rice farming model is already finished.
    Both the public and restaurants are saying no to it now.
    Udon, pasta, bread, and imported rice will keep gaining ground.
    195AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:58
    Re: #12
    If they don't cut acreage, prices will just keep crashing harder.
    People got fed up with how rotten the rice industry is and thought 'there are plenty of other carbs!' and switched — and once you've done that, you realize there's no real reason to go back to rice.
    18AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:04
    Are Japanese people just clueless about economics?
    103AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:00
    Re: #18
    Take the hint — not a single Japanese person has ever won the Nobel Prize in Economics.
    19AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:05
    It's not the rice farmers who are at fault — it's JA, which bought up all the 'Etō rice' (rice tied to then-farm minister Etō's policy).
    That's when the tide turned.
    30AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:10
    Re: #19
    If a contract doesn't even name a price and just says 'in principle, we'll buy back the same amount within a year,' then JA is the only one who'll bid on that.
    It's less that they 'bought it all up' and more that Etō and JA teamed up to control supply — which kept the pricey 2025-harvest rice they'd bought at high provisional prices from crashing.
    22AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:07
    Even with this drop, it's just back to where it was two years ago
    so in the end it was just a spike that came back down
    and because of that spike, producers can no longer absorb their rising costs
    agricultural policy has just been incompetent
    if they'd kept prices from swinging so wildly, they could've managed a gentle rise instead
    next year's going to be brutal from the backlash
    51AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:27
    Re: #22
    Pretty good odds that by next year's new-crop rice, cries of 'too expensive' will only get louder
    and rice culture keeps eroding.
    182AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:52
    Re: #22
    Exactly this.
    TV and the rest of mass media keep saying prices 'fell,' but they're comparing to the peak of the price spike — of course it looks that way.
    24AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:07
    Next year the shift away from rice will probably go even further and consumption will keep dropping.
    34AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:14
    Re: #24
    Wheat prices are up this year,
    so like in 2024 when rice looked relatively cheap by comparison, rice consumption this year will probably rise.
    The problem is on the supply side — production costs are climbing but prices aren't.
    I bet output drops sharply next year.
    Who knows what happens then.
    37AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:16
    I wonder what the real endgame here is.

    Beat down JA and rice farmers until they say 'can't keep this up, we're quitting' — does it end in consolidation into large-scale corporate farming, or does a lack of flat farmland keep companies from moving in, leading instead to mass imports of California rice?
    44AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:21
    Re: #37
    If scrapping tariffs means cheaper imported rice, that's great news for consumers!
    47AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:23
    In the end, last year too it was just lousy speculator-scalpers hoarding stock, but the idiots at the farm ministry kept chanting 'fair price! fair price!' and ended up helping the scalpers along.
    Handing the country's staple food over to speculators — that's basically a nation of barbarians at this point.
    49AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:26
    Re: #47
    I bet they made a killing off political donations.
    189AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:56
    Re: #47
    'Protecting the farmers' was just a smokescreen slogan.
    52AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:28
    The average age of rice farmers is 70,
    so give it ten years and they'll basically be wiped out.
    54AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:29
    Re: #52
    This is exactly the moment I'd like to see them quit farming.
    56AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:31
    Why isn't anyone comparing this to 2023 or 2024?
    59AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:34
    Re: #56
    Compared to those years, I'd say it's still more than 30% higher.
    63AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:39
    Ishiba, who told them to increase production without ever solving the problem of the farmers who'd already stopped growing rice.
    65AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:41
    Re: #63
    Couldn't be helped back then, there was an election coming up. If there hadn't been an election, he wouldn't have brought up the 'elephant' either.
    72AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:46
    Re: #63
    There's no time,
    and production can't ramp up quickly anyway,
    so alongside pushing to increase output,
    (farm minister) Shinjiro released the reserve stockpile,

    and as a result, rice finally started moving again.
    76AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:49
    Japan doesn't need farmers
    — importing is cheaper.
    79AnonymousSep 20, 2026 08:51
    Re: #76
    Well, from the perspective of ordinary consumers who are stuck buying pricey produce because of tariffs put up for farmers' sake, farmers playing the victim is honestly grating.
    160AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:31
    Whenever people talk agriculture it's rice, rice, rice, but rice makes up only 16% of total agricultural output.
    Japan's serious farmers make their money off livestock, vegetables, and fruit.
    Rice farmers are just numerous — mostly tiny-scale, weekend-only part-timers.
    What's needed is a policy that pushes these inefficient part-time farmers out of the business.
    173AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:43
    Re: #160
    Livestock farming isn't exactly 'serious' either —
    it basically runs on tax money.
    Huge facilities, huge machinery, all subsidized.
    They get equipment bought outright with tax money that even big commercial farmers elsewhere don't have.
    191AnonymousSep 20, 2026 09:56
    Re: #160
    It's precisely because things got more efficient that people can go work outside farming lol

    Feels like you've mixed up a bunch of unrelated info and landed on a weird conclusion, no? lol

    Background and key points of this debate

    The “Reiwa Rice Riot” refers to the string of turmoil in which retail rice prices spiked sharply through 2024-25, triggered by quality declines from summer heat starting with the 2023 harvest and by clogs in distribution. Provisional prices are the tentative buying prices JA pays producers in advance of final settlement, and serve as a gauge of that year’s market sentiment. This time’s “30-40% drop” is measured only against the inflated 2025-harvest prices — as some thread posters pointed out, the current level is actually close to 2023-24 harvest prices. Opinions split over whether to pin the blame for the price swings on JA and agricultural policy’s supply control, or on the structural shift of consumers away from rice; but on the point that farmers face rising production costs without a matching rise in sale prices, posters across the divide largely agreed in voicing concern about what’s ahead.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News+) thread “[Rice] 2026-harvest provisional prices down 30-40% across Tohoku — driven by inventory levels and the fallout from the “Reiwa Rice Riot”.”