Category: Society

  • Three Men Go Missing on Lake Biwa — Only Their Rented Jet Ski Found on the Water

    At around 11:30 a.m. on September 21, 2026, a rental shop on Lake Biwa in Otsu, Shiga Prefecture, called police to report that three men who had rented a jet ski (personal watercraft) had not returned. Only the jet ski itself was later found on the lake, and police and fire crews continue to search for the men. On the thread, posters debated whether the rental shop had actually checked the men’s boating licenses and ID, whether they had been wearing life jackets, and whether rough water from an approaching typhoon may have been a factor. At the same time, a fair number of crude comments mocking the region or the victims cropped up, making for a mix of fact-checking and mean-spirited joking.

    Delivered 9/21 (Mon) 15:34 JST

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    According to police, at around 11:30 a.m. today (the 21st), a shop in Otsu that had rented out a jet ski to three men filed a report with police after the men failed to return from Lake Biwa.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / original article here

    2AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:41
    Mash, Ortega, and Gaia
    30AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:47
    Re: #3
    Re: #2
    According to the report: 'They rented the jet ski from the shop and were wearing life jackets at the time.'
    Bet they took them right off after, lol
    47(*)Sep 21, 2026 17:51
    Re: #2
    Macho, Osteoga, and Gay-a

    The Black Tri-Coupling

    Note: “Mash, Ortega, and Gaia” is a joke referencing the “Black Tri-Stars,” a legendary three-man ace pilot squad from the Gundam anime franchise — the poster is comparing the three missing men to the famous trio. The reply in #47 mangles the names into crude puns and swaps “Tri-Stars” (三連星) for “Tri-Coupling” (三連結, like coupled train cars) as a joke.

    3AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:41
    Did a mermaid take them?
    4AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:41
    Too much hassle to return it, so they just went home
    51AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:52
    Re: #4
    If they didn't even check ID, that'd explain it
    135AnonymousSep 21, 2026 18:12
    Re: #4
    I could totally see that
    140AnonymousSep 21, 2026 18:13
    Re: #4
    Yeah, probably
    Searching for them is a waste of time
    7AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:42
    Jet skis are something you ride near the shore, aren't they?
    Did they think it was the same as a boat?
    16AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:44
    Did they skip out without paying?
    Hard to imagine all three drowning at once, right?
    18AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:44
    Going out with a typhoon on the way — unbelievable
    78AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:59
    Re: #18
    Seriously, who goes out today of all days
    Even if it's a lake, the wind would kick up some serious chop

    And no life jackets either, so of course this happens
    Can't be helped
    33AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:48
    They'd have had a copy of their boating license taken at rental, so I doubt they just abandoned it and ran
    80AnonymousSep 21, 2026 18:00
    Re: #33
    Class 4 boating license, huh
    Probably paid upfront anyway
    63AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:55
    Can a jet ski even hold three people?
    159AnonymousSep 21, 2026 18:21
    Re: #1
    Lake Biwa is basically the ocean, man
    165AnonymousSep 21, 2026 18:24
    Re: #159
    Never seen a whale in it though
    161AnonymousSep 21, 2026 18:22
    Idiots should never ride jet skis. How many fatal accidents have there been by now?!
    So many idiots think just turning the handlebars makes it turn!
    Jet skis should require a license.
    174AnonymousSep 21, 2026 18:26
    Re: #161
    It already does. There are just a lot of idiots who ride without one.
    163AnonymousSep 21, 2026 18:24
    News just said 2 are in cardiac arrest and 1 is still missing
    164AnonymousSep 21, 2026 18:24
    Re: #163
    Cardiac arrest, huh
    Probably all gone at this point
    169AnonymousSep 21, 2026 18:25
    Re: #163
    Whoa, that was fast

    Note: this claim of cardiac arrest circulated as unverified live-broadcast chatter within the thread and was not confirmed in the source article at time of writing.

    173AnonymousSep 21, 2026 18:26
    Got taken down by a nutria
    182AnonymousSep 21, 2026 18:29
    Re: #173
    Not Lake Biwa, but a few months back during a heavy rain I ran into one for the first time on a riverbank near me

    Note: nutria are large invasive semi-aquatic rodents found in parts of Japan — the comment is a tongue-in-cheek joke, not a serious theory.

    226AnonymousSep 21, 2026 18:42
    The bottom of Lake Biwa connects straight through to Lake Titicaca in South America, on the other side of the globe
    That's probably where they'll turn up
    233AnonymousSep 21, 2026 18:44
    Re: #226
    Even Lake Tazawa, Japan's deepest lake, is only about 400 meters deep

    Background and Key Points of Discussion

    Unlike road vehicles, personal watercraft (PWC) in Japan require a small-craft operator’s license (specifically a “special small-craft license” for jet skis), and rental shops normally ask to see it before handing over the keys. A 2018 legal revision also made wearing a life jacket mandatory in principle. The thread split along two main lines: skepticism about whether the license and ID checks actually happened (with some suspecting the men simply rode off without returning the craft), and criticism of the poor judgment shown in going out on the water with a typhoon approaching. Some posts claimed two of the men were in cardiac arrest, but this was unverified information based on live news coverage and had not been confirmed as of the source article. A number of crude comments mocking the region or the victims also appeared in the thread; since the people involved in this accident are real individuals, those remarks have been left out of this article.

    ※ This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (News Speed+) thread “[Shiga] Three Men Missing on Lake Biwa — Only Rented Jet Ski Found on the Water, Police and Fire Crews Searching.”

  • Out of Nowhere, a Megabank Demands ‘¥23 Million’ Back — Renouncing an Inheritance Becomes a Hot Topic

    The mother of an Asahi Shimbun reporter received certified mail from Mitsubishi UFJ Bank stating it wanted to “confirm her intention to repay ¥23 million.” Her older brother, who lived in Nara, had died leaving debt behind, and as his younger sister, she had become a legal heir. On 5ch, most comments said “just renounce the inheritance” — but others pointed out the real hassle and cost involved, like gathering family register documents and filing with the family court, plus the crucial detail that the renunciation deadline is “3 months from the day you find out,” sparking a broader discussion.

    “A letter suddenly arrived from the bank demanding ¥23 million back — what am I supposed to do?” That was the call the reporter, currently on assignment in Tochigi, got in July from their mother back home in Osaka. It turned out their uncle, who lived in Nara, had died carrying debt, and their mother, as his younger sister, had become his heir. Renouncing the inheritance seemed like the only option, but what exactly did that involve? Facing a problem that could ensnare almost anyone, the reporter took it on from afar.

    “We would like to confirm your intention to repay ¥23 million.”

    In mid-July, a registered letter with that message arrived addressed to the reporter’s mother from Mitsubishi UFJ Bank. Flustered, she suspected it might be a scam. The contact listed was the “West Japan Loan Branch,” but searching online turned up nothing. When the reporter called the bank’s call center, it took a while — perhaps because it’s a little-known department — but they were able to confirm the branch really existed.

    Source: asahi.com / Original article here

    4AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:03
    Can't she just renounce the inheritance too, no?
    8AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:04
    Re: #4
    Exactly this.
    I don't even get what there is to be mad about.
    18AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:08
    Re: #4
    But doesn't it cost like ¥50,000?
    43AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:13
    Re: #4
    The deadline to renounce the inheritance has already passed at this point.
    7AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:04
    It's simply a matter of renouncing the inheritance.
    Not really something that needs a whole article.
    74AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:19
    Re: #7
    It's not treating it as some kind of scandal — isn't it just an article laying out concretely how the renunciation procedure works and how much hassle it actually involves?
    177AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:43
    Re: #7
    If the daughter's renouncing it anyway, they should just overhaul the law so that settles the whole thing right there.
    10AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:05
    Wait, is it even okay to die still owing debt in the first place?
    22AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:09
    Re: #10
    Okay or not, once someone's dead there's nothing to be done about it.
    32AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:11
    Re: #10
    Could be intentional, but plenty of people die from illness or accidents with no such intent — that happens too. Can't really be helped, right? For the intentional cases, renouncing the inheritance is the way to go, though if there's still a net-positive estate even after offsetting the debt, it might be worth a second thought.
    51AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:14
    Re: #10
    If you say it's not okay, feel free to bring them back to life then.
    13AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:06
    Pay a few tens of thousands of yen, renounce the inheritance, done.
    29AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:11
    Re: #20
    I think they mean: if you can't do it yourself, just pay a professional to handle it and that's the end of it.
    33AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:11
    Re: #20
    The "pay a few tens of thousands" part is about the fee for hiring someone like a tax accountant — read more carefully.
    14AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:06
    Sorry, but if racking up debt and then dying just wipes it clean, isn't it better to just borrow like crazy?
    17AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:08
    Re: #14
    If more people did that, lenders would have no choice but to stop lending or jack up interest rates — it's the people honestly trying to pay it back who end up losing out.
    24AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:10
    Re: #14
    Ever heard of collateral? Banks normally won't lend without taking collateral.
    31AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:11
    Re: #14
    You think you can just borrow as much as you want whenever you feel like it?
    15AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:08
    'The bank apparently traced the family register and tracked down the reporter's mother, the uncle's younger sister.'
    Are banks even allowed to do that?
    28AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:11
    Re: #15
    Either way, since it'll just get renounced and they can't recover it, I doubt they'd actually pursue it. There's no way you'd get a loan with no collateral anyway — sounds made up.
    61AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:16
    Re: #15
    Legally, yes — though they have to justify it to the local government office. As for the hassle, it includes the original family registers too, so tracing the chain requires pulling multiple family register documents and visiting several government offices.
    101AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:25
    Re: #15
    Qualified professionals like lawyers can view other people's family registers (and residence records), so yes, it's possible.
    55AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:15
    Re: #43
    Isn't it counted from when you find out you have inheritance rights?
    59AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:15
    Re: #55
    I'm pretty sure it's "from when you find out."
    226AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:58
    Re: #55
    Right, from when you find out.

    Honestly though, anyone who dies leaving debt behind deserves to rot in hell — don't go causing trouble for people even after you're dead.
    57AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:15
    The bank's being awfully considerate.
    They could've just stayed quiet for a few months until it's too late to renounce, then sent the bill.
    68AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:18
    Re: #57
    Because it's counted from the day you learned the inheritance occurred.
    77AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:21
    Re: #57
    It's 3 months from when you find out, so since she found out via this bank notice, the 3 months start from here. For elderly people, hiring a lawyer still feels like a high hurdle — 3 months goes by fast.

    Regarding the renunciation deadline, "the moment you learned the inheritance began (the day you found out)" means the moment you learn the deceased has died AND recognize that "you have legally become an heir."
    During this 3-month consideration period, you must file the renunciation with the family court within 3 months of this "moment you found out."
    71AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:18
    Man, I wish my cousin-in-law's estate would come my way — apparently she owns a couple of apartment buildings in Shibuya.
    84AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:22
    Re: #71
    Being a landowner would be nice, but being a building owner just costs you money.
    92AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:23
    Re: #71
    In-laws don't have inheritance rights, you know.
    For blood relatives though, if there's no one else higher up in the priority order, it can pass down to a cousin.
    164AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:37
    Renouncing an inheritance only costs a few hundred yen if you do it yourself.
    170AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:40
    Re: #164
    Ha, so you're just counting the certified-mail fee? (lol)
    172AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:40
    Re: #164
    There's absolutely no way it's just a few hundred yen.
    174AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:42
    Re: #164
    Just the family register copies and other documents alone cost several thousand yen.
    179AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:43
    What happens if every single heir renounces it?
    187AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:44
    Re: #179
    The remaining assets just get put up for auction.
    191AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:45
    Re: #179
    It just means the bank's side of the process is done. After that, it's a job for the real estate agents.
    196AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:47
    Re: #179
    It just becomes an unrecoverable loss that everyone has to eat.

    Background and Key Points of This Debate

    Under Article 915 of Japan’s Civil Code, renouncing an inheritance requires filing with the family court within 3 months of the day you learn the inheritance has begun. Crucially, that clock starts not from “the day you learned of the death” but from “the day you realized you were an heir” — which is why, as in this case, relatives living far away can receive notice at an unexpectedly late stage. It’s also easy to overlook that accepting even part of the estate, or paying off any of the deceased’s debts, can count as “simple acceptance” (単純承認), after which renunciation is no longer possible. While many commenters on the thread said “just renounce it, simple as that,” opinions split over the real-world hassle and cost of gathering family register documents and filing with the family court, as well as how heavy a burden this notice places on elderly recipients. Cases where creditors like banks trace family registers to track down distant relatives are likely to remain common going forward.

    ※This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News Plus) thread “Megabank Suddenly Demands ‘¥23 Million’ Back — An ‘Aging Society Relatable Moment’.”

  • Is It True? Foot-Traffic Data Reveals a ‘Tale of Two Shibuyas’

    An article in which Teikoku Databank used foot-traffic data to test the theory that “young people are abandoning Shibuya” drew a wave of reactions on 5ch’s News Express+ board. Posters pointed to specific patterns, like young people from the Saitama direction bypassing Shibuya entirely for Ikebukuro, Shinjuku, or Koshigaya Lake Town, and argued that Tokyu’s redevelopment is turning the area into an office district no longer geared toward young people. Others countered that the station area and Center-gai are still packed with people, so the thread was split on whether the “Shibuya exodus” is really happening. Comparisons noting that Omotesando and Yoyogi have kept their calmer atmosphere also became a talking point.

    Is the “Youth Exodus from Shibuya” Real? Foot-Traffic Data Reveals a “Tale of Two Shibuyas”

    Mon, Sep 21, 7:04 AM JST

    Teikoku Databank

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    17AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:25
    Omotesando and that area are nice and calm.
    Though it's packed with tourists on weekends.
    210AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:28
    Re: #17
    Perfect for a bit of morning exercise.
    70AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:53
    They swarm the place for Halloween and the World Cup though.
    79AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:56
    Re: #70
    If anything, those are the only times anyone's actually there.
    71AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:53
    Re: #1
    > "Young people these days don't hang out in Shibuya," "the exodus from Shibuya is progressing"
    Well yeah, that's literally just young people leaving Shibuya.
    75AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:54
    Re: #71
    Looking at the data, the point was that there are plenty of young people there, but they're split geographically from the older crowd.
    101AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:11
    So which is it in the end—are the young people there or not?
    105AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:13
    Re: #101
    It's basically just kids who got bored of Harajuku wandering over. It's not even really a destination people set out for anymore.
    109AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:15
    Re: #101
    They're there, but only around the station and Center-gai, I'd say.
    102AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:11
    Everything Tokyu touches turns to ruin.

    Empty even though it's in Shinjuku's Kabukicho… The current state of Tokyu's 'Kabukicho Tower' turning into a ghost building (by Kazuki Tanigashira) | Money Gendai | Kodansha
    s://gendai.media/articles/-/154251?imp=0
    117AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:18
    Re: #102
    Maybe it'll get bought out by Chinese capital again, like Ginza Nowa (a Ginza building bought up by Chinese investors).
    130AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:25
    Re: #102 The old Tokyu Plaza and Tokyu Bunka Kaikan were easy to use, but…

    Today's Tokyu buildings probably just have terrible pedestrian flow.
    108AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:15
    Shibuya peaked around 1990, when the chiima ruled the streets (chiima: flashy street-gang youth cliques of the era).
    114AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:17
    Re: #108
    Chiima were a late-90s thing, lol.
    111AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:16
    Heard Tower Records is shutting down.

    Even less reason to go there now.
    112AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:17
    Re: #111
    Seriously? lol
    I failed the part-time job interview at the Shibuya Tower Records once (´・ω・`)
    121AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:20
    There are only half as many young people as there were in our generation, so of course it's like this. And with the population aging, people spend way less on clothes and makeup and that whole dressing-up game. Still, where are all the kids even going?
    132AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:25
    Re: #121
    Young people from Saitama used to ride the Saikyo Line straight into Shibuya. Now they just get off at Ikebukuro.
    133AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:27
    Re: #132
    I get that, lol. Even when they go further, it's only as far as Shinjuku. They don't bother with Harajuku or Shibuya.
    173AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:59
    Re: #132
    Some of them just head to Koshigaya Lake Town (a big suburban mall) instead. They don't go to Shibuya at all.
    166AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:54
    Tokyu's plan is probably to ditch young people entirely and turn the place into an office district. They probably figured big-money tenants beat young people who don't spend anyway. And sure enough, they dragged Google in. But there aren't that many companies like that out there. Seems like nobody's coming unless they drop the rent.
    186AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:08
    Re: #166
    If they're bringing in Google, it's probably a plan to remake the whole town. No point lowering the rent—only their own circle gets to move in anyway.
    188AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:11
    Re: #186
    This 'Greater Shibuya' concept they're pushing is really about sorting people and companies. They'll just keep remodeling it into a town with ever-higher rents and salaries.
    207AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:27
    Re: #186
    All those 'insiders' already got snapped up by the Hills developments (Mori Building's Roppongi Hills-style office towers), lol.
    168AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:55
    Shibuya just keeps getting uglier. Why can't Tokyo ever do 'subtractive' redevelopment—less clutter instead of more? It's heading in the exact opposite direction of refined.
    170AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:57
    Re: #168
    Isn't that basically impossible in Shibuya? Land prices are so high that developers end up chasing returns on their investment.

    Apparently there are places like that out in the suburbs, or so I've heard—don't know the details. Not sure how it is along the Tokyu lines either.

    'Invest and keep it simple' is a tough combo to pull off. Marunouchi's probably one of the better examples of it actually working?
    172AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:59
    Yoyogi and Harajuku are still doing fine, though.
    175AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:02
    Re: #172
    I think it's the renovated station's fault. If you have a drinking party in Shibuya and get wasted, you don't feel like you can even find your way home anymore. Used to be you could say your goodbyes and be on the train 30 seconds later. Also apparently the rats have multiplied like crazy, which doesn't help either.
    184AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:07
    Re: #172
    Yoyogi has a good kind of messiness to it. Though honestly the only place I go there is Books Kinokuniya (the foreign-language bookstore).
    180AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:04
    Shibuya lost all its value once Studio Alta closed down.
    182AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:06
    Re: #180?

    I mean, I don't go near Shinjuku unless I actually have business there.
    197AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:20
    Isn't it Ueno and Ikebukuro that are bustling now? Tokyu's hopeless developers completely let the golden-egg-laying energy of young people slip through their fingers.
    200AnonymousSep 21, 2026 17:21
    Re: #197
    Why Ikebukuro and Ueno, though?

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    Around Shibuya, Tokyu’s large-scale redevelopment continues to push forward, with the area increasingly shaped for office workers—including efforts to attract Google’s offices—while others point out that rents are too high for most companies to move in at all. On top of an overall shrinking youth population, redevelopment around Shibuya Station has made transfers more complicated, and some say it’s become less convenient to casually drop by than it used to be. The thread repeatedly pushed back on the simple idea that “there are no young people in Shibuya”—people still gather around the station and Center-gai, even as areas like Omotesando and Yoyogi stay calmer, showing the picture varies a lot by neighborhood. One poster’s account of young people from the Saitama direction stopping at Ikebukuro suggests destinations may simply be scattering depending on which train line people ride.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (News Express+) thread “[Youth Exodus from Shibuya] Is It True? Foot-Traffic Data Reveals a ‘Tale of Two Shibuyas’”.

  • Public Bathhouses: Over 80% Have Vanished in 50 Years — Aomori Tops the Nation Per Capita

    According to the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare’s fiscal 2024 sanitation administration report, the number of public bathhouses (sento) nationwide has fallen to 2,730 facilities — meaning more than 80% have disappeared over the past 50 years. By prefecture, Yamagata now has zero sento, while Aomori ranks first nationwide with 22.40 facilities per 100,000 residents. The article drew responses from a wide range of generations on 5ch, with users sharing memories of visiting bathhouses back when they had no bath at home, discussing how rising water and gas bills are squeezing bathhouse operators, and comparing regional differences in hot spring and bathhouse culture.

    Published 9/20 (Sun) 10:00

    Asahi Shimbun

    Neighborhood public bathhouses keep disappearing. According to the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare’s sanitation administration report (fiscal 2024), sento classified as “public bathhouses” number 2,730 nationwide — meaning more than 80% have vanished over the past half century. By prefecture, Yamagata has become a “zero-sento prefecture,” while Aomori, with 22.40 facilities per 100,000 people, can be called “Japan’s most bathhouse-loving prefecture.”

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:15
    Bathhouse brawl, huh
    42AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:25
    For some reason Aomori bathhouses don't stock shampoo or body soap
    so apparently it's standard practice to keep your own bottles in the car
    6AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:16
    Apparently a lot of houses didn't have baths back in the day, but I honestly can't picture that
    13AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:19


    Re: #6
    There's a new-build apartment put up where an old machiya townhouse in the historic district used to stand — and unbelievably, it's shower-only, no bathtub.
    Honestly, my real thought is "you're paying 80,000 yen rent for THAT?" @a prefectural capital in the Kinki region
    8AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:16
    It stung that Tokyo made tap water free only for households, which made things relatively pricier for everyone else
    12AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:18
    Re: #8
    On top of that, my ward hands out gas and electric subsidies to every household
    Bless, truly bless
    25AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:22
    Re: #8
    Between water and fuel costs it just stopped being worth it
    but since prices are regulated as a daily necessity, there's no room to actually turn a profit
    meanwhile the pricier "super sento" spa complexes are actually doing well
    11AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:18
    Re: #6
    When I was a kid, it wasn't rare for our bath to break down and for us to end up at the bathhouse
    47AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:26
    Re: #11
    Wait, baths actually break down? Were they just more failure-prone back then?
    I'm in my 40s and I've never really heard of that
    15AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:19
    Back then even municipal housing made you buy and install your own bathtub, and when you moved out you had to rip it out and dispose of it yourself
    no wonder people went to the bathhouse

    I did the same thing when I was boarding during my student days — used the local sento
    54AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:28
    Re: #15
    First I've ever heard of that
    17AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:20
    Back in the Showa era it was 100 yen for adults, 50 yen for kids
    We had no bath at home so we'd go every 2-3 days
    That coffee milk after a bath hit so good
    34AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:24
    Re: #17
    Come on
    how old even are you
    you're past the average life expectancy at this point (lol)
    50AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:27
    Re: #17
    The hot spring I hit up in Beppu about 10 years ago was 100 yen
    20AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:21
    This right here is the real Japanese tradition
    https://1010.or.jp/menu/history/src_rekishi/rekishi04.gif
    24AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:22
    Bring back mixed-gender bathing and business would bounce right back
    113AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:43
    Re: #24
    That'd just mean more creepy guys lurking with just their eyes above the water ("crocodiles")
    176AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:05
    Re: #24
    My heart is that of a woman!
    41AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:25
    I get the appeal of super sento, but regular bathhouses I don't really get
    worst case they don't even have soap or shampoo
    61AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:29
    Re: #41
    Wait, isn't the whole point of a sento that you bring your own basin loaded with soap, shampoo, and a towel,
    with your change of clothes wrapped up in a bath towel?
    43AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:25
    Honestly, Japanese people barely bathe anymore
    even showering feels like a hassle
    49AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:27
    Re: #43
    That's nasty, don't hold up some outlier as your example
    45AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:26
    Re: #1
    51AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:27
    A bath full of perverts sounds terrifying, hard pass
    52AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:27
    In Hachinohe, Aomori, the bathhouses open around 5 a.m.

    A bath before work is just standard there
    57AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:28
    Re: #52
    Didn't know that was a thing
    59AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:28
    Regular sento are still fairly common within Tokyo's 23 wards
    but out in the suburbs it's a wasteland
    my parents' place is in some city out in Kitatama and there's only one bathhouse left
    73AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:33
    So 80% of them are gone, huh
    78AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:34
    Re: #73
    They could just deregulate the pricing, that's all it'd take
    but nobody's pushing for that law to change, so sento are probably doomed
    89AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:37
    Re: #73
    (Come on, you should've phrased that as "80 pah-sento" — a pun blending "percent" and "sento")
    84AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:36
    Yamagata's got day-trip hot springs everywhere
    wasn't it the case that literally every single municipality has one?
    about 300 yen and body soap and shampoo are included
    Yamagata's basically paradise
    90AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:37
    Re: #84
    Hokkaido's kind of the same. Except you need a car
    151AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:53
    A bathhouse straight out of that old Showa-era song "Kandagawa" takes some nerve to walk into (a 1973 folk hit about a poor couple's shared trips to the sento)
    156AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:55
    Re: #151
    Guess a super sento has a lower bar to clear (´・ω・`)
    159AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:55
    Re: #151
    That's the song about the worst boyfriend ever, leaving his girlfriend waiting outside in the dead of winter
    don't soak so long, man

    Background and Key Points

    Under Japan’s Public Bathhouse Act, each prefecture sets a price cap on sento admission fees by ordinance, meaning operators can’t just raise prices whenever they want. The thread’s suggestion to “just deregulate the pricing” is pointing straight at this structure — even as water and fuel costs climb, prices can’t easily follow, which is considered one driver behind the wave of closures. Also, Aomori’s title as “Japan’s top sento prefecture” is based on facilities per 100,000 residents, not on how popular any individual bathhouse actually is. Likewise, Yamagata having zero sento doesn’t mean bathing culture there has died out — day-trip hot spring facilities simply became widespread and effectively replaced the sento business model, a nuance the raw numbers alone don’t convey. The thread was also full of firsthand stories from an era when homes had no bathtub, reflecting how changing housing conditions are part of what’s driving people away from bathhouses.

    ※This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Newsplus) thread “【♨】Bathhouses Down 80% in 50 Years — What Japan’s Top Sento Prefecture Reveals About Changing Bath Culture.”

  • Man Shows Secretly Filmed Video to Ex’s New Boyfriend, Hoping She’d Come Back — 18-Year-Old Arrested

    In Fukuoka Prefecture, an 18-year-old female high school student reported that “it seems someone secretly filmed me naked,” leading to the arrest of her 18-year-old ex-boyfriend on suspicion of violating Japan’s law against filming sexual acts or exposed bodies. According to investigators, the man is believed to have shown video he filmed without her consent to the woman’s current boyfriend. His alleged motive — that showing the video would make the current boyfriend break up with her so she’d come back to him — drew a wave of “I can’t understand what he was thinking” reactions on 5channel. The thread was also divided over who the real victim in this case actually is.

    “It seems I was filmed naked” — 18-year-old female high schooler’s report leads to arrest of her ex-boyfriend, an 18-year-old high schooler, who allegedly said “If I show her boyfriend the (nude) video, they’ll break up and she’ll come back to me…”

    Mon, Sep 21, 13:18 JST

    RKB Mainichi Broadcasting

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    3AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:39
    >The high school boy apparently said, "If I show her current boyfriend the (nude) video…"

    For a second I thought this was gonna turn gay lol
    120AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:12
    Re: #3
    Oh, so it's that kind of NTR (netorare — the "stolen girlfriend" trope) 🤩
    235AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:41
    Re: #3
    The premise here is that he secretly filmed a female high schooler naked. But I don't get it — I can't see how showing her current boyfriend the (nude) video would make them break up and bring her back to him. What kind of logic makes someone think "show the boyfriend the video → they break up → she comes back to me"?
    5AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:41
    So it's a crime to get filmed naked during sex?
    Even between classmates?
    11AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:42
    Re: #5
    This used to happen all the time back in the day
    69AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:59
    Re: #5
    As long as you don't use it to threaten anyone, it should be fine, no?
    160AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:21
    Re: #5
    Doing it without the woman's consent — of course she'd be pissed
    19AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:44
    "Show her the video and she'll break up and come back to me"…
    I have no idea what he's talking about
    161AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:22
    Re: #19
    I was totally lost at first too, but here's the deal — she had a current boyfriend, but agreed to sleep with her ex when he asked, he secretly filmed it as "proof," and then the ex figured: "show the video to the current boyfriend" → they "break up" → she "comes back" to him
    44AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:50
    All three of them are headed nowhere good in life
    Won't even get into a decent university at this rate
    56AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:53
    Re: #44
    The current boyfriend didn't do anything wrong here lol
    60AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:56
    Re: #44
    They're probably at some private university in Fukuoka
    49AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:51
    At 18 it wouldn't count as child pornography, right? So what was he arrested for — extortion?
    129AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:16
    Re: #49
    It says he was arrested on suspicion of violating the law against filming sexual acts/exposed bodies, so it's voyeurism — probably filmed while she was asleep or without her knowing
    213AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:36
    Re: #49
    Whether you call it revenge porn, defamation, or voyeurism, it's guilty either way. And what does "they're classmates" have to do with anything?
    67AnonymousSep 21, 2026 15:58
    Stuff like this you're supposed to just quietly keep as a lifelong treasure, y'know
    84AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:03
    Re: #67
    Normally you'd just delete it…
    74AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:00
    Feels like it's mostly men who get obsessive over exes and former spouses — why is that?
    Can't they just move on to someone new?
    99AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:06
    Re: #74
    Women tend to move on more easily
    And it's almost always men who end up stalking and killing their exes too
    140AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:17
    Okay so I get that she let her ex into her room and they hooked up, but what kind of situation actually leads to that?
    Was she being threatened or something?
    148AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:19
    Re: #140
    If she'd been threatened, they'd have added a non-consensual sex charge on top
    Since they didn't, the sex itself must've been consensual
    187AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:28
    They're both high schoolers with smartphones, so… scary stuff

    Back in our day it was camcorders, so filming itself would've been a lot harder
    192AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:29
    Re: #187
    People filmed stuff just fine back then too
    188AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:29
    Wait, so who's actually the victim here?
    194AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:30
    Re: #188
    The current boyfriend who got cheated on lol
    195AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:30
    Re: #188
    Victim or not, the one who really got screwed over is the current boyfriend
    197AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:30
    Re: #188
    It's the woman — she's the victim, and she probably got put through some kind of secondary victimization by the police on top of it
    196AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:30
    Re: #187
    The image of a camcorder just cracked me up lol
    What is this, a kid's field day? lol
    207AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:34
    Re: #196
    Well, before smartphones existed, camcorders were all you had
    Those things make it super obvious you're filming a sex tape, so I figured it must've been tough to pull off… lol
    218AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:38
    Re: #207
    Nice, isn't it~
    237AnonymousSep 21, 2026 16:41
    Re: #207
    Smells like lavender (a stock 5ch in-joke line dropped for ironic effect)

    Background and Key Discussion Points

    At issue in this case is Japan’s “Act on Punishment of Photographing Sexual Acts, etc.,” which took effect in 2023 — a law that criminalizes non-consensual filming itself, with no threats or extortion required for the offense to hold. Since the age of adulthood was lowered to 18 in 2022, both parties are legal adults; the terms “female high schooler” and “high school boy” simply reflect their status as students, not minors, so this isn’t a case handled under the Juvenile Act. Where the thread split was over “who’s the real victim” — legally, the woman who was filmed without consent is the victim, but much of the commentary leaned toward viewing the current boyfriend, who found out about the affair, as “the biggest victim.” The article itself doesn’t clarify whether the sexual encounter was consensual or coerced, and speculation over that point is what’s driving the thread’s momentum. The full circumstances behind the filming and the real nature of the relationships will have to wait for follow-up reporting.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5channel (Newsplus) thread “[Fukuoka] “I was filmed naked” — report by 18-year-old female high schooler leads to arrest of ex-boyfriend, 18, who allegedly said “If I show her boyfriend the video, they’ll break up and she’ll come back to me…”.”

  • Why Does “Ear Hair” Sprout as You Age? 5ch Reacts: “Your Head Goes Bald, But Your Ears and Eyebrows Run Wild”

    As people reach middle age, hair on the ears, nose, and eyebrows suddenly grows thicker and coarser, while the hair on their head thins out — a phenomenon known as “senior hair.” A news article explaining this mechanism sparked a reaction on 5ch. Though the piece focused on why ear hair grows, the thread quickly expanded to cover hair troubles all over the body — eyebrows, nose hair, chest hair, shin hair — with users sharing everything from barbershop trimming methods to their own DIY grooming experiences. Many offered theories involving hormonal shifts and disrupted hair-growth cycles to explain the simple question: “Why does your head go bald while your ears and eyebrows run wild?”

    Published 9/21 (Mon) 8:13 AM

    BSS Sanin Broadcasting

    Isn’t anyone else bothered by “ear hair” — the hair that grows in middle-aged men’s ears?

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

    2AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:58
    Kawauchi Yasunori-sensei — now there's a name I haven't heard in ages
    14AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:01
    Re: #2
    Supposedly if you pulled one of his ear hairs, the one on the other ear would retract
    29AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:05
    Re: #2
    There was even a time his photo got used on the Wikipedia "ear hair" page
    64AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:18
    Re: #2
    Wait, "Kōhan-sensei" — the guy who created Moonlight Mask?
    13AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:01
    Heard that as you age, DNA copying errors increase, and that's what makes extra stuff start growing
    112AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:36
    Re: #13
    That's basically how cancer works
    Hair grows because the hair cycle goes haywire
    26AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:04
    Only my eyebrows keep growing so I trim them with clippers
    My late grandpa had eyebrows just like Murayama Tomiichi's
    58AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:16
    Re: #26
    I actually admire former PM Murayama's eyebrows, so when the barber asks "Want the long ones trimmed?" I always say no
    Though I do cut the occasional one that curls weirdly and pokes me in the eyeball
    35AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:07
    By that logic, head hair should keep growing too
    42AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:10
    Re: #35
    Good point…
    38AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:08
    The top of your head keeps thinning out, so why do ear hair, eyebrows, chest hair, nose hair, and cheek hair just keep sprouting?
    39AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:09
    Re: #38
    Probably getting sucked out of your scalp and over to your ears
    53AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:14
    As you age, hair that used to stop growing at a certain length seems to forget where to stop, so it just keeps going — that's why you get those long drooping eyebrows like an old sage, and stray hairs run wild too
    Even my grandma's got a beard now
    56AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:16
    Re: #53
    It's not just grandmas — plenty of women grow facial hair 🥲
    54AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:15
    Head hair just keeps getting thinner and sparser, and then there's ear hair… (´・ω・`)
    69AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:19
    Re: #54
    The compounds your body uses for hair growth never make it all the way up to your scalp — they stop off around your ears
    63AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:17
    Can't something be done about hair growing in all the wrong places while your head stays bald?
    76AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:21
    Re: #63
    The head should matter more, yet the hair protecting it thins out while your arms and shins get hairier

    I tried a home flash hair-removal device, and it was like all the "stray hair energy" concentrated into whatever follicles survived — ended up with thicker, longer shin hair and looking even worse 😞
    70AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:19
    It tends to grow a lot on the tragus, that little flap over your ear canal
    Pulling it out with a satisfying "pop" feels amazing
    81AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:23
    Re: #70
    Wait, seriously?
    It gets long before you even notice
    and then it's just like, ugh
    I'm turning into an old man already
    73AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:20
    It's always struck me as strange that armpit and pubic hair stay at a set length even if you never trim them
    Nose hair keeps growing too, but it only ever pokes a little out of your nostril — it never just keeps going forever
    78AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:22
    Re: #73
    Hair is built to stop growing once it reaches a length that won't interfere with daily life.
    Even head hair, if left to grow long enough to protect the spine, stops around waist height.
    (assuming everything's working normally)
    79AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:22
    The barber shaves my ears for me, but for some reason always leaves the thick or long hairs behind
    95AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:27
    Re: #79
    At a Middle Eastern barbershop, they finish the haircut by lighting a cotton ball on fire and quickly singeing off your ear hair with it
    99AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:28
    Honestly I don't get why your hair thins out while ear hair and the rest get thicker
    Head hair protects you from impacts, so losing it seems like a bad thing
    But ear hair getting thicker doesn't seem to have any upside at all
    What's actually causing this?
    146AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:48
    Re: #99
    Put very simply, it's a hormone thing
    103AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:30
    My nipple hair just keeps growing lol
    115AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:37
    Re: #103
    That's the "don't pluck it or your money luck runs away!" prank Nakamura Masatoshi pulled on Shimada Shinsuke lol
    Apparently when the show came back, everyone burst out laughing at Shinsuke's nipple hair
    106AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:32
    When you clean your ears, the hair inside sometimes catches on the wall on the other side, and when it snaps back it makes this rustling sound that gives you the chills
    113AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:37
    Re: #106
    Lol that's hilarious
    118AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:38
    Eyebrows end up looking like Murayama Tomiichi's too, don't they
    Wonder why that happens
    123AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:39
    Re: #118
    Totally
    But that one's easy to spot, so I pluck the long ones out now and then
    124AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:40
    My nipple hair situation is no joke
    128AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:41
    Re: #124
    It doesn't actually grow from the nipple itself lol, you mean the areola, right?
    129AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:41
    Re: #124
    Mine's no joke either, I pluck it in the bath sometimes
    But I've got basically no chest hair otherwise
    135AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:43
    I can't wipe cleanly when I poop, so I trim my butt hair regularly
    138AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:44
    Re: #135
    How do you even trim butt hair? You can't see back there
    161AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:52
    Re: #135
    Let me tell you a story
    I do the exact same thing — shave my butt hair once a week with a disposable razor — but the other day I slipped and nicked the surface of my scrotum
    You know how the skin around each hair follicle on your scrotum has this slight little bump? Well, I got about 10 of those spots
    Didn't notice anything for about a week, then around week two I started feeling a weird pain and realized what happened
    At that point all 10 spots looked like moles — it was disgusting
    They scabbed over, and by week four the scabs naturally came off; even now, five weeks in, there's still a bit of a mark

    Anyway, the point is: your scrotum heals slow, so seriously be careful
    168AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:53
    Re: #135
    Just realized something after writing that
    There's a chance you're actually a woman

    Background and Key Points

    The reason head hair thins while ear, nose, and eyebrow hair thickens with age is thought to come down to changes in how sensitive each hair follicle is to male hormones as the body gets older. Scalp follicles respond to hormones by shortening their growth cycle, producing only thin, weak hairs, while follicles in the ears, nose, and eyebrows respond the opposite way — soft vellus hair there gets replaced by coarse, thick terminal hair. Because follicles in different parts of the same body respond differently, you end up with the seemingly contradictory phenomenon of “going bald while your ear hair thickens.” The thread floated folk theories like “DNA copying errors” or “blood flow concentrating in the ears,” but neither is medically established — a shift in hormone sensitivity is the more widely accepted explanation. Episodes involving public figures like Kawauchi Yasunori, whose ear hair length became a talking point on TV, show that this phenomenon has been noticed for a long time.

    *This article is compiled and summarized from the 5ch (Breaking News Plus) thread “[👂] What Causes “Ear Hair” in Middle-Aged Men? What Is “Senior Hair” — Nose, Ear, and Eyebrow Hair That Keeps Growing Thicker and Coarser?.”

  • “I’ve Got a Kid, You Know. Can’t You Just Sit Somewhere Else?” — Family Caught Squatting in Stranger’s Reserved Window Seat

    A story shared on 5ch’s News Speed+ board describes a passenger who found a parent and child sitting in the reserved window seat they’d booked a month in advance on a limited express train. When the passenger spoke up, the father reportedly shot back, “I’ve got a kid, you know. Couldn’t you sit somewhere else?” But rather than debate the rights and wrongs of the situation, the thread quickly settled into a familiar refrain — “not this kind of story again” — with most of the discussion revolving around whether the tale was real or made up. Some pointed to a note attached to the original article as evidence that it’s actually an edited, reconstructed reader-survey submission rather than a straight account of real events.

    I’d booked a reserved window seat on a limited express a month in advance, planning to go visit my mother back home.

    I checked my boarding spot on the platform, then wheeled my suitcase onto the train.

    Following the seat number down the aisle, I found a boy of about three sitting in my reserved window seat.

    Source: news.jp / Original article here

    25AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:02
    I see this same story constantly.
    Tons of similar short videos going around too.
    I'm sick of it.
    39AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:04
    Re: #25
    It genuinely pisses me off — I keep hitting "not interested" on those shorts and obvious made-up karma-payback stories, but they always crawl back eventually.
    I don't even watch that genre, so it must be getting recommended off the back of some totally different video.
    63AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:07
    Everyone claims they're sick of this topic, but
    hardly anyone actually has a sharp comeback ready for when it happens to them in real life.
    108AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:11
    Re: #63
    Just say, sounding annoyed, "Um, this is actually my seat…" and leave it at that.
    419AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:41
    Re: #63
    When there's a transportation accident, they identify bodies by the seat you booked, right?
    So I'd say something like: "I just want my family to be able to claim my body even a little sooner, so I really can't give up this seat" —
    and just keep pleading earnestly, on and on. I figure they'd decide I'm too much trouble and back off.
    136AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:14
    I ride the Shinkansen a lot and this has never once happened to me, never even seen it.
    Sitting in the wrong seat by accident and both people realizing when they check tickets — sure, that happens sometimes.
    But the price gap between a non-reserved and a reserved ticket is only a few hundred yen, so nobody's pulling a stunt like this.
    148AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:15
    Re: #136
    It's not just about saving a few hundred yen — if all the reserved seats are sold out, a non-reserved ticket is the only option you can buy.
    170AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:17
    Re: #136
    I ride the Shinkansen three times a week too, and I've never seen trouble like this.
    Though I do often see people boarding a Nozomi with a cheaper Kodama ticket (a slower train's ticket used to sneak onto the faster one).
    143AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:14
    I'd like to think this couldn't happen these days, but years ago, when everyone was lined up waiting for the first train, a kid of about 5 or 6 toddled up and cut in at the front of the line. When the doors opened he sprinted in and reserved an entire box seat for his parents, who showed up later. This was on the Tokaido Line out of Tokyo Station, so the line was pretty long. I kept quiet since scolding a little kid felt petty, but it still bugs me whenever I remember it.
    206AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:20
    Re: #143
    I make a point of lining up on the reserved-car side, right at the boundary between the reserved and non-reserved cars.
    Naturally, people with reserved seats don't need to rush, so that line is practically empty.
    The instant the doors open I board, then immediately dash into the non-reserved car — makes it easy to grab a seat. Recommended.
    159AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:16
    A lot of people are posting that it's a made-up story, but
    you can't actually know whether it is or not.
    197AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:19
    Re: #159
    You might not believe it, but it's all a fabrication generated by AI.
    177AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:17
    Re: #148
    In that kind of situation every reserved seat is already full, so you'd obviously know that a non-reserved ticket means you're guaranteed to get bumped.
    220AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:21
    Re: #177
    That's exactly why it's a made-up story.
    305AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:30
    Re: #177
    Apparently in China even reserved seats work first-come-first-served, so maybe this guy's from over there.
    284AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:28
    Re: #1
    "No. Not. Happening."

    That one line settles it — what's even the issue?
    If they refuse to move, you just call the conductor.
    303AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:29
    Re: #284
    "Lord Dio!" (a riff on the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure villain's catchphrase "muda da" — "it's useless" — which sounds like "dame da," the "No" from the post above)
    370AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:36
    Re: #284
    That's exactly why it ends up that way.
    289AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:28
    This made-up story and that photo of some fat guy sitting there always come as a matching set, don't they!
    355AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:35
    Re: #343
    There's no "commissioning" about it — that's clearly an AI-generated illustration.
    Probably the article text too…
    405AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:40
    Re: #343
    With an AI illustration, it probably cost next to nothing. Which means the original article might be AI-written too, lol
    310AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:30
    You need at least a line like: "'What a horrible lady, huh,' the mother muttered quietly to her kid before getting up and walking off. I was completely caught off guard."
    325AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:31
    Re: #310
    Behold, this thread's own "Three Great Views"… (riffing on Japan's famous "Three Great Views" scenic-spot ranking, jokingly applied to lump together these dramatic comeback lines)
    437AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:43
    Re: #310
    Something like: "Had I been a true professional passenger, I should have heard the sound of the wind, felt its very breath — and I reflected on having neglected to do so."
    342AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:33
    As if anyone's really like this.
    Enough with the made-up stories already.

    >
    "Excuse me, but I also have this seat reserved…"

    I answered while showing my ticket, and this time the father turned to face me.
    "I've got a kid, you know. Couldn't you sit somewhere else?"
    His tone was a bit sharper than before.
    350AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:34
    Re: #342
    This guy sounds like the type who'd instantly turn tail if it were some big tattooed guy instead.
    373AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:36
    Re: #342
    Punchline: turns out the family squatting there didn't even have a reserved-seat ticket.
    Same exact story's come up before.
    375AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:37
    Re: #342
    I bet people like this really exist —
    the type who just muscle their way through life like that.
    372AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:36
    "I've got a kid, you know. Couldn't you sit somewhere else?"

    His tone was a bit sharper than before.

    So dumb. And apparently the family only had non-reserved tickets. Utterly pointless.
    392AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:38
    Re: #372
    If this is really true, then he's a deliberate offender using his own kid as leverage.
    412AnonymousSep 21, 2026 12:41
    Re: #372
    "Couldn't you sit somewhere else" doesn't even make grammatical sense there —
    it's a reserved seat, for crying out loud.

    Background and points of debate

    This type of “reader experience column” — built around trouble on trains or in restaurants — gets published regularly on news sites, and it becomes a talking point on 5ch every single time. This case was no different: a note attached to the original article, quoted in the thread, states that the piece is “based on experiences submitted through a reader survey, with people, situations, and dialogue partially edited and reconstructed out of consideration for privacy.” In other words, the article itself makes clear it isn’t a verbatim account of a real incident but a reader submission reworked into a narrative piece. Readers who miss that caveat tend to get stuck arguing over whether the story is “real,” even though the article already flags itself as a creative reconstruction — a detail that’s easy to overlook. At the same time, some in the thread raised concrete, rail-savvy points, like the price gap between reserved and non-reserved tickets, or how during busy periods only non-reserved tickets may be available, showing a genuine effort to check the story’s details against real-world train travel.

    *This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread “👧”I’ve Got a Kid, You Know. Can’t You Just Sit Somewhere Else?” — Family Caught Squatting in Stranger’s Reserved Window Seat.”

  • The ‘Catch-and-Release’ Dating Trap: Women Who Keep Rejecting Good Prospects — 5ch: “Anyone in STEM Already Knows the Optimal Answer”

    A Nikkan Gendai article points out that quite a few women, when matchmaking, reject decent partners one after another, only to later regret it — thinking, “That guy wasn’t so bad, what a waste.” In response, a 5ch thread traded opinions and personal experiences on the “trial dating” system used by matchmaking agencies, the mathematical theory behind timing your choice of partner (the so-called 37% rule), and whether looks or substance should matter more. Notably, participants split over whether it’s even appropriate to frame matchmaking in terms of “gains and losses.”

    “That Guy Was a Catch…” Too Late Now! The Pitfall of “Catch-and-Release” Women Who Keep Rejecting Matchmaking Men One After Another | Nikkan Gendai DIGITAL

    Miyuki Uekusa

    Dating & Matchmaking Advisor

    Source: nikkan-gendai.com / Read the original article here

    6AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:05
    I only ever matched with one person on a dating app, and I ended up marrying her — guess that was basically a miracle.
    53AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:23
    Re: #6
    That's wonderful.
    113AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:34
    Re: #6
    Aren't most of those basically scams or hookup sites though?
    7AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:05
    I'm 53 now, pulling in around 14 million yen a year, nothing special ability-wise, just an average balding middle-aged guy — but I have zero sympathy for the bottom-tier losers in my generation.
    In the "Employment Ice Age" threads (Japan's lost generation who job-hunted during the 1990s–2000s recession), the guys whining "it's because of the Ice Age" are just blaming the era and society for their own lack of effort — I can tell, because I'm from the same generation.
    It's been 30 years since then. So what exactly have the bottom-tier guys been doing this whole time?
    29AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:15
    Re: #7
    By your logic, every loser out there just needs to work hard, earn 14 million yen a year…
    and go bald.
    Honestly, that timeline doesn't sound so bad.
    35AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:17
    Re: #29
    Re: #7 is a copypasta.


    What actually matters is how many new-grad jobs pay enough to let you save money.
    44AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:20
    Re: #7
    Making 14 million past age 50 is actually below average for Tokyo though.
    16AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:08
    Matchmaking agencies don't really let you "keep someone on hold."
    I hear all the time that women dump guys one after another, figuring that since they're paying money, the agency will just introduce someone even better.
    28AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:14
    Re: #16
    Well, the people being introduced to you also have the same biological instincts you do, so they can only be matched with — and can only choose from — people who are actually interested in their looks and stats. That's the harsh reality.
    Anyone who thinks they can get unlimited introductions to great partners who are into them no matter what is just an unpopular person with a wildly inflated view of their own sexual market value.
    68AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:26
    Re: #16
    During the "trial dating" phase you're allowed to see as many people as you want at once, so you absolutely can keep people on hold.
    22AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:11
    Feels like there are more self-absorbed young women lately.
    Then again, maybe it's always been this way.
    36AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:17
    Re: #22
    If she's in her 20s, maybe it's forgivable.
    By the time a woman's close to 30, most find a compromise and get married.
    If you're still single past that, you're better off switching to obsessing over your favorite idol instead.
    61AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:25
    Re: #22
    There are just more people now who can't even do basic cost-benefit math.
    31AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:16
    Anyone with a STEM background already knows this optimal solution.
    Must be rough for the humanities crowd.
    38AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:18
    Re: #31
    For reference, say you're planning to date through 10 people — the optimal strategy is to automatically pass on the first 4, then pick the first person after that who beats all of those first 4 on stats.
    60AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:24
    Re: #31
    Ah, the 37% rule.
    But a spouse isn't a secretary hire — if a total catch shows up early and you turn them down, you'd probably spend the rest of your life thinking "what a waste."
    202AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:52
    Re: #31 Re: #38
    I'm a humanities dropout so I don't fully get the math, but if the top 4 candidates happened to come first and the worst one came last, wouldn't you end up "hiring" the worst one? I guess the point is that scenario is extremely unlikely, so doing it the way Re: #38 describes gives you the highest probability of a good outcome.
    32AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:16
    Guess all that's left is chasing Johnny's idols for the rest of my life. (male idols from the Johnny & Associates talent agency)
    57AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:23
    Re: #32
    If you've got some money and friends, that's honestly the easier path.
    Marriage, childbirth, and childcare all fall disproportionately on women.
    In the old days the husband earned and the wife could just stay home, but that's not realistic anymore — so unless a man who's lacking in personal charm earns really well, no one's going to choose him.
    58AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:24
    Re: #57
    Life's gotten pretty hard for women lately, so if you actually want to get married, it's easy.
    63AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:25
    Re: #57
    Childbirth aside, marriage and childcare aren't really connected lol.
    If the woman earns way more, she can absolutely push the childcare duties onto the man.
    37AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:17
    Looks are 90% of a person. (nod to the popular Japanese book of the same title)
    40AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:19
    Re: #37
    If that's true, then it doesn't make sense that I can't get married.
    42AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:20
    Re: #40
    Go ahead and post a photo of your face with just your eyes blurred out.
    59AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:24
    Over 35, single, no kids —

    honestly a mystery why people like that are even still alive.
    Isn't that just terrible time-efficiency and cost-efficiency?
    64AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:25
    Re: #59
    You should say that to the old guys around here instead — plenty of them have no reason to be alive either.
    67AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:26
    Re: #59
    There was that actress who died of cancer recently, around 40. People have all kinds of reasons for how they live.
    230AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:57
    Re: #59
    People who talk about marriage in terms of time-efficiency and cost-efficiency are basically just admitting "I have a low income."
    178AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:47
    48-year-old man here, full-time civil servant — I want to get married and have kids but can't find anyone…
    Anyone under 39 want to marry me?
    182AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:48
    Re: #178
    Just give up on having kids already…
    You could probably still find, say, a 48-year-old woman.
    189AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:49
    Re: #178
    You're about 10 years too late to be starting this.
    196AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:51
    Re: #178
    How about with me instead?
    28 years old, 179cm, 78kg.
    Lean and muscular.

    Background and Key Points of This Discussion

    The “37% rule” that came up in the thread applies the mathematical optimal stopping problem (commonly known as the secretary problem) to matchmaking: the theory holds that your odds of success are highest if you automatically pass on a fixed share of candidates (roughly 37%), then pick the first person after that who beats all the ones before. That said, this is purely a statistically optimal strategy — it offers no guarantee on romance-specific factors like chemistry or feelings. Meanwhile, the “trial dating” system at matchmaking agencies lets clients date multiple people at once, and as several posters noted, the more someone pays, the more likely they are to think “there must be someone even better” and keep their options open — a structure that can easily fuel the “catch-and-release matchmaking” the article describes. The thread split between those criticizing the very idea of choosing a partner by checklist, and those who see approaching matchmaking with calculation as only natural; no clear consensus emerged.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5ch (News Express+) thread ““That Guy Was a Catch…” Too Late Now! The Pitfall of “Catch-and-Release” Women Who Keep Rejecting Matchmaking Men One After Another.”

  • Tourist numbers keep rising in Shirahama even after the pandas went home to China — 5ch: “Guess we didn’t need the pandas after all”

    It’s been over a year since Adventure World in Shirahama, Wakayama Prefecture, sent its four headline giant pandas back to China. A drop in tourism was widely expected, but the prefecture’s “tourist trends survey,” released in late August, shows visitor numbers have actually stayed above the previous year’s levels even after the pandas left. On 5ch, some took the figures at face value, saying “guess we didn’t need the pandas after all,” while others pushed back with data, noting that “Adventure World itself — the town’s main earner — has actually seen fewer visitors” and “some months are down 50,000 to 100,000 people year-on-year.” Opinion split over whether the reported increase reflects the town as a whole or just its flagship attraction.

    It’s been over a year since the leisure facility “Adventure World” in Shirahama, Wakayama Prefecture, sent all four of its headline giant pandas back to China at once.

    Locally, a sharp drop in tourism was expected, but looking at the prefecture’s “tourist trends survey” for last year, released in late August, the total number of visitors to the town and attractions like Shirahama Onsen actually exceeded the figures from the year before that, and has held at roughly the same level in the months since the pandas’ return.

    According to the town’s own survey, visitor numbers have remained strong into this year as well.

    Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Read the original article here

    5AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:21
    Ever since I saw the news that Japan wouldn't have pandas anymore,
    I realized I'd never actually seen one in person
    94AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:48
    Re: #5
    Are you me?
    98AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:49
    Re: #5
    Pandas through glass
    are even worse than watching them on a screen!
    211AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:41
    Re: #5
    When I saw one at Ueno it was asleep, so I thought they'd just put out a stuffed toy
    Its fur was grubbier than I expected — honestly the plush version might be cuter
    10AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:22
    What's even in Shirahama?
    Aren't they just putting on a brave face
    43AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:32
    Re: #10
    Hot springs
    The beach
    Adventure World
    I'd say it's pretty blessed as a tourist spot
    198AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:33
    Re: #10
    They used to do acrobatic flight displays at Shirahama Airport and Hidaka Port, but now it sounds like they do it at Shirarahama Beach — the venue's gotten worse, total trash, well, more like way too crowded, so forget it
    15AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:25
    Guess we didn't need the pandas after all
    18AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:26
    Re: #15
    Only half a day, huh
    And here Abe was trying to make it happen
    28AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:28
    They should just breed more red pandas instead of giant pandas
    32AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:29
    Notice how nobody's saying whether Adventure World's own visitor numbers actually went up
    39AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:31
    Re: #32
    For the mayor, as long as the town as a whole is thriving, that's good enough
    103AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:51
    Re: #32
    The main earner, Adventure World, is actually down
    But they're using public money to court inbound tourists, and that's doing pretty well
    205AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:37
    Re: #32
    Costs went down too
    No more huge rental fees
    No more dedicated panda team staying overnight for care
    No more gourmet bamboo either
    48AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:34
    Good for them
    Didn't need to make a whole news story out of it though lol
    52AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:34
    Re: #48
    Must be rough for the professional complainers
    56AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:36
    Chinese tourists are down, the pandas are gone
    and tourism just keeps booming?
    Well, good for them, good for them.
    63AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:38
    Re: #56,59
    No, actually — they've been actively courting Chinese tourists,
    and that's what's driving the increase
    91AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:47
    The rental fee for a pair of pandas is 106 million yen a year. If a cub is born, that's an extra 67 million yen paid to China; if one dies, 56 million yen.
    They remain Chinese property throughout. Panda diplomacy is really a message of subservience — you can hardly call it diplomacy.
    https://x.com/GrwaNnKqMn5nG68/status/1918027695616868673
    141AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:06
    Re: #91
    During COVID it couldn't be returned and ended up dying of heart disease at the zoo…
    I wonder if Oji Zoo had to pay the 56 million yen…
    95AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:49
    That's because last year there was a rush of demand before they left
    What are you even talking about
    132AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:01
    Re: #95
    It says right there: numbers have stayed about the same even in the months after the pandas were returned.
    According to the town's survey, visitor numbers are still holding up strong this year too.

    That's literally what it says though
    124AnonymousSep 21, 2026 10:57
    Even if Shirahama's raking it in, who knows how much longer the Kisei Main Line will hold out
    138AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:04
    Re: #124
    I saw a thread saying the limited express between Shirahama and Shingu is set to be discontinued
    If tourism were really up they wouldn't be cutting the express service
    so Re: #1 is a fabricated, bogus article
    140AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:06
    Why would numbers go up after the pandas left?

    Re: #1's explanation isn't very convincing, but
    maybe it's just because Japan overall is seeing an abnormal tourism boom
    152AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:09
    https://machi-graph.com/city/shirahama-30401/tourist

    Looking at this, since the pandas were returned in June '25 the numbers are down roughly 50,000-100,000 year-on-year most months though
    7
    162AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:14
    Re: #152
    That data makes it pretty clear Re: #1 is a bogus article
    180AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:24
    Re: #152
    Sounds like the May-June rush before the pandas left outweighed the drop-off from July onward
    157AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:11
    Re: #131
    If visitors went up after they left, that means the pandas were actually a negative
    Panda diplomacy (lol)
    200AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:34
    Capybaras instead of pandas — no problem at all.
    South American capybaras never get used as diplomatic bargaining chips.
    #ZeroPandas
    #China
    https://x.com/ProfShimada/status/2081126928552272276
    204AnonymousSep 21, 2026 11:37
    Re: #200
    Toba Aquarium already keeps a ton of capybaras
    They were covered in crap, pretty filthy honestly
    and besides the main exhibit they had a bunch more crammed into a corner outside

    Background and points of debate

    The four giant pandas were on loan from China under a “Japan-China joint breeding research” arrangement, and their return was simply a matter of the lease ending. It’s worth noting that the figures making headlines here come from the “tourist trends survey” covering the broader Shirahama town and Shirahama Onsen area as a whole — a separate statistic from visitor numbers at Adventure World, the flagship attraction, specifically. Commenters on the thread picked up on this distinction, pointing out that “nobody’s saying whether Adventure World’s own numbers went up” and that “the main earner is actually down,” suggesting the flagship facility may be struggling even as town-wide figures look good. There’s also a discrepancy between the prefecture’s published statistics and year-on-year data independently compiled by a private site, and opinions split over how much the post-panda decline from July onward offset the pre-return rush in May and June. Figures for the panda rental fee and penalty payments in the event of death were also cited in the replies, but since the source was a social media post rather than an official statement from the municipality or a zoo, this article cannot confirm their accuracy.

    *This article is compiled by excerpting and summarizing the 5ch (News Express+) thread “[Wakayama] Tourist numbers up even with zero pandas — Shirahama’s mayor on the past year: “We got a flood of complaint calls to city hall, but now…”“.

  • Why Does Chiba Station Feel “Underwhelming”? The Decisive Gap With Yokohama and Omiya Stations

    An ITmedia article examining why Chiba Station feels “underwhelming” compared to Yokohama and Omiya stations became a hot topic on 5channel’s News Express+ board. All three are flagship JR East stations representing their prefectures, and there shouldn’t be a huge gap in station-front scale or number of connecting lines — yet the thread filled up with comments like “Omiya and Yokohama are hub stations where Shinkansen lines branch off, but Chiba is just the starting point for local lines heading to Uchibo, Sotobo, and Narita” and “Commuters from Chiba’s Tokyo-facing suburbs can get everything done in Funabashi or Kashiwa, so they rarely have a reason to go to Chiba Station in the first place.” Others pointed out that Shikoku and Chiba are the only regions in Japan without a Shinkansen line, and that road development was held back by fallout from the Narita Airport conflict. The discussion broadened into the idea that the “underwhelming” feeling comes less from the liveliness of the station front and more from the structure of the rail network and historical circumstances.

    Kanagawa, Saitama, and Chiba prefectures all border Tokyo. Representing each of these prefectures is a flagship JR East station: Yokohama Station, Omiya Station, and Chiba Station. All three are major hubs served by numerous lines, supporting transportation for their regions.

    Yet compared with Yokohama and Omiya, Chiba Station somehow feels underwhelming. It has plenty of shops inside the station and a department store out front. It has numerous platforms, with the Keisei Line and the Chiba Urban Monorail running alongside JR. As the central station of a prefectural capital, it’s by no means small in either scale or function.

    So why does Chiba Station, despite being one of greater Tokyo’s major stations, leave such a different impression from Yokohama and Omiya? We went there in person to track down the source of that nagging feeling.

    Source: itmedia.co.jp / Read the original article here

    7AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:24
    I always thought Yokohama and Omiya were inconvenient, small-town backwaters.
    53AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:35
    Re: #7
    You're seriously underestimating Yokohama.
    204AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:05
    Re: #7
    What even counts as "convenient" anyway?
    9AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:24
    Yokohama and Omiya are hubs, that's why.
    15AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:27
    Re: #9
    Wait, is there a habu snake involved? (pun: ハブ means both "hub" and "habu," a venomous snake)
    57AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:36
    Re: #9
    Because of Habu Yoshiharu. (a famous shogi player — the pun on "Habu" continues)
    76AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:40
    Re: #9
    Because of Hanyu Yuzuru. (the figure skater — same kanji 羽生, different reading, keeping the pun going)
    13AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:26
    Omiya is a junction point for Utsunomiya and Takasaki, and a key stop on the way to Tohoku and Joetsu. Chiba, meanwhile, is just a junction for genuinely rural towns like Uchibo, Sotobo, Choshi, and Narita.
    59AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:36
    Re: #13
    Though I do think Narita's downtown still has room to grow.
    16AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:27
    It's just too far from Tokyo. When people say they're "going to Chiba," it's really only ever as far as Funabashi or Makuhari.
    21AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:29
    Re: #16
    Right? Once you get out to Chiba Station itself, it feels less like greater Tokyo and more like some regional prefectural capital.
    20AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:29
    The only places in Japan without a single Shinkansen station are Shikoku and Chiba.
    146AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:53
    Re: #20
    Fake news. ("嘘松" — slang for an obviously made-up story) Don't forget Mie, Nara, Wakayama, Tottori, and Shimane too.
    58AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:36
    It just feels too tidied-up somehow. You don't get any sense of the area's history.
    94AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:43
    Re: #58
    Chiba is just terrible at self-promotion — it's a place with deep ties to the Buddhist saint Shinran, but almost nobody knows that. It also has countless Sengoku-era battle sites and Jomon-period ruins, and even unearthed one of the oldest boats in the world, some 7,000 years old. It's got plenty of history, it just never gets marketed.
    156AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:55
    Re: #58
    Actually, today's Chiba Station only came into being after a relocation in the late 1950s/early '60s. Before that, Chiba Station was where Higashi-Chiba Station is now.
    79AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:40
    If you're born in the Tokyo-facing northwest part of Chiba, there's not a single reason to ever go to Chiba Station. Plenty of people there have never once set foot in it.
    89AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:42
    Re: #79
    Well, residential paperwork gets handled at the city office, so there's no need to go to the prefectural government building.
    114AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:46
    Re: #79
    I lived in Ichikawa for about 10 years, and the only reason I ever went toward Chiba was the driver's license center.
    129AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:49
    Re: #79
    You can get everything done around Funabashi or Kashiwa. If you're going that far anyway, it's honestly easier to just head into Tokyo instead of Chiba.
    121AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:47
    That said, if you moved the prefectural-capital functions over to the Tokatsu area too, the traffic gridlock would get even worse.
    154AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:55
    Re: #121
    Why are the roads in Chiba so terrible anyway? Compared to Kanagawa or Saitama there are way fewer wide roads, and it's way too congested.
    174AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:00
    Re: #154
    The attack on the chairman of the Chiba Prefecture Land Expropriation Committee. Thanks to that, road construction basically stalled for decades.
    176AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:00
    Re: #154
    Because of the Narita Airport conflict, the head of the land expropriation committee was attacked, and after that proper road development pretty much only happened on reclaimed land or way out in the boonies.
    132AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:50
    Yokohama I get, but isn't Omiya kind of lame??
    137AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:51
    Re: #132
    Yeah, it's lame. All it's got is the Railway Museum and Hikawa Shrine.
    143AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:52
    Re: #132
    It was originally just a city of 400,000. If you want a fair comparison, it's Yokohama vs. Kobe, and Omiya vs. Utsunomiya.
    144AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:53
    Omiya's station building is huge, but once you step outside, the downtown area is only about the size you'd expect from a city of 500,000. It's nowhere near what you'd expect from a 1.3-million-person city. Yokohama's downtown is obviously massive, and even Chiba's stretches out for about a kilometer. Omiya's downtown ends after just 500 meters or so.
    152AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:54
    Re: #144
    Like others have said, it used to be its own city called "Omiya City" with a population of around 500,000, so naturally the downtown is scaled to that.
    194AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:03
    Re: #144
    From Omiya you can reach Tokyo or Shinjuku in 30 minutes. It's so close to central Tokyo that its own downtown never needed to develop much. Chiba, on the other hand, takes over an hour to reach Shinjuku or Shibuya.
    170AnonymousSep 21, 2026 08:59
    If Omiya City had a downtown scaled to 500,000 people, then Urawa City had 550,000 people but a downtown scaled more like 200,000.
    184AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:01
    Re: #170
    Urawa is still kind of lame today, but back when it was its own city, it was embarrassingly lame. Honestly, the area in front of Iwatsuki Station looked livelier back then, with that big Watts building right there. This was around 2000 or so.
    187AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:02
    Re: #170
    Omiya on its own has a downtown on the level of Shizuoka or Okayama — just barely designated-city tier. Urawa is less "prefectural capital" and more in the category of an upscale bedroom town, like Ashiya or Kunitachi.
    196AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:04
    Omiya has its rivalry with Urawa. Yokohama has its internal neighborhood hierarchy. Chiba's problem is it just doesn't have that competitive spirit.
    211AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:05
    Re: #196
    Is Funabashi supposed to be Chiba's second city?
    244AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:12
    Re: #196
    There's also the Tachikawa vs. Hachioji rivalry for "champion of Tama."
    213AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:06
    Omiya is more the type where everything's contained inside the station itself. Step outside and it's a trashy-looking townscape.
    232AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:10
    Re: #213
    It's only the east exit that's trashy.
    234AnonymousSep 21, 2026 09:11
    Re: #213
    Omiya's west exit has been fairly well redeveloped, but the east exit is still a chaotic mix. Honestly, I hope it keeps that slightly seedy edge. I was disappointed by how boring Ueno's become.

    Background and Talking Points

    Omiya Station draws heavy transfer traffic as a junction for the Tohoku, Joetsu, and Hokuriku Shinkansen lines, yet the downtown area in front of the station remains sized to the old Omiya City (roughly 500,000 people before its merger). Yokohama Station, by contrast, sits at the commercial heart of Yokohama City, population 3.77 million, with dense retail development. Chiba Station represents Chiba City (population roughly 980,000), but posters repeatedly pointed out that so-called “Tokyo-commuting Chiba residents” in the prefecture’s northwest can handle their errands in central Tokyo or in Funabashi and Kashiwa, meaning they structurally have little occasion to visit Chiba Station itself. Chiba also shares with Shikoku’s four prefectures the distinction of having no Shinkansen line at all, leaving it without the advantage of being a hub on the high-speed rail network. Some also brought up the attack on the chairman of the prefectural land expropriation committee tied to the Narita Airport conflict as a factor behind the prefecture’s stalled trunk-road development — a story often cited when discussing Chiba’s roads, though the article itself doesn’t cite primary sources to back it up. Rather than the size of the station itself, the thread’s central argument was that Chiba’s “underwhelming” feeling comes down to a difference in its role as a hub within the wider metropolitan network.

    *This article is compiled from excerpts and a summary of the 5channel (News Express+) thread “Why Does Chiba Station Feel “Underwhelming”? The Decisive Gap With Yokohama and Omiya Stations.”