“Pension Alone Isn’t Enough to Live On”: Elderly Hoped for a Leisurely Retirement, But Keep Working Instead

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The story

Fukushima Chuo TV’s report on elderly people who keep working despite saying “pension alone isn’t enough to live on” drew reactions on 5ch. Since the pension system was originally designed to be combined with severance pay or personal savings, opinions were divided over disparities in elderly savings and the burden passed between generations.

“Pension Alone Isn’t Enough to Live On”: Elderly Hope for a Leisurely “Retirement” but Keep Working Anyway #MyNormal

10/15 (Thu) 16:00 JST

Fukushima Chuo TV

Source: news.yahoo.co.jp / Original article here

What people said

4AnonymousOct 15, 2026 21:38
That's why old folks should just spend the money they've been hoarding. Why does everyone assume they'll live on pension alone without ever touching their savings?
9AnonymousOct 15, 2026 21:40
Re: #4
Totally agree. Just figure out what to do once the savings run out, when it actually happens.
80AnonymousOct 15, 2026 22:15
Re: #4
There are all kinds of elderly people, but among those from generations whose money lost value over time, there are probably plenty who have no choice but to rely on their pension.
112AnonymousOct 15, 2026 22:28
Re: #4
There aren't nearly as many old people sitting on piles of savings as you think.
5AnonymousOct 15, 2026 21:39
Crank patient medical co-pays up to 200% and pension payouts will just keep climbing eventually.
20AnonymousOct 15, 2026 21:43
Re: #5
One trip to the hospital and you're paying tens of thousands of yen.
6AnonymousOct 15, 2026 21:40
Looking at poor elderly people today… they lived through the postwar economic miracle and the bubble economy — basically life on easy mode — and still ended up broke. I want to sit them down for an hour and ask what exactly they were doing all this time.
16AnonymousOct 15, 2026 21:42
Re: #6
The ones who actually built up wealth from that are the people in their 80s now. I'm over 60, and the 'economic miracle' was already ancient history by the time I was in high school.
14AnonymousOct 15, 2026 21:42
A country with this many elderly people still working is just abnormal.
97AnonymousOct 15, 2026 22:22
Re: #14
But you don't want immigrants either, do you?
144AnonymousOct 15, 2026 22:45
Re: #14
Isn't it the long lifespans that are abnormal, not the working?
164AnonymousOct 15, 2026 22:54
Re: #14
It's because they're healthy enough to work.
18AnonymousOct 15, 2026 21:43
I want to grill them on whether they saved anything besides their pension. And honestly, it feels like I'm looking at a preview of you guys in the future.
25AnonymousOct 15, 2026 21:44
Re: #18
Today's elderly are loaded with savings. Of the 1,000 trillion yen in cash and bank deposits in Japan, people aged 70 and up alone account for 90% of it.

So yeah — spend your savings already.
37AnonymousOct 15, 2026 21:51
It's been a world where you can't live on pension alone for a long time now. Actually, that's been true since the pension system was first created — it was always designed around severance pay plus pension, or savings plus pension. If all you've got is the pension, of course you have to keep working.
41AnonymousOct 15, 2026 21:55
Re: #37
No, that's wrong. Not every elderly person is able to keep working. Their bodies start falling apart in all sorts of places, and they just can't handle a normal job anymore.
48AnonymousOct 15, 2026 21:57
"Pension alone," lol. I've got my pension plus a private pension, so retirement's a breeze for me. I own my home too, so no rent to worry about.
50AnonymousOct 15, 2026 21:58
Re: #48
*Public pension plus private pension, I mean.
96AnonymousOct 15, 2026 22:22
Worked 25 years at a Japan National Railways affiliate company, and my pension is only 100,000 yen a month?? Is that even a thing??
138AnonymousOct 15, 2026 22:43
Re: #96
With only 25 years, that sounds about right. If it were 40 years, fair enough, but… ( ̄∀ ̄) (a smug/snickering emoticon)
162AnonymousOct 15, 2026 22:53
Re: #96
Employees' pension (kosei nenkin) payouts are set based on your salary and bonuses during your working years plus your contribution period, so even under kosei nenkin, a low monthly salary means a smaller payout. In other words, it pays off to have higher salary and bonuses from your 40s onward until retirement. This person only worked 25 years, so their salary probably wasn't that high to begin with (and back in their era, bonuses weren't even factored into the calculation).
157AnonymousOct 15, 2026 22:50
This system was built during the era from the high-growth years through the bubble economy, when everyone worked past midnight every single day. In exchange for having no real personal time during their working years, they were granted a leisurely retirement.

But today's 60-somethings and today's working generation barely do any overtime — they clock out on time with cushy, relaxed jobs — and they still expect a leisurely retirement? That's awfully presumptuous.
160AnonymousOct 15, 2026 22:51
It's the road we're all headed down eventually. Shouldn't we be protesting about this together?
169AnonymousOct 15, 2026 22:56
Re: #157
I think Re: #160 has a point. Everyone becomes elderly eventually, and by the time it's our turn, the world will probably be an even harsher, harder place to live in.
182AnonymousOct 15, 2026 23:03
Re: #157
> "Today's 60-somethings and the working generation barely do any overtime — they clock out on time with cushy jobs — and they still expect a leisurely retirement? That's awfully presumptuous."

That's the generation that got asked 'Can you work 24 hours a day?' (a famous 1980s energy-drink ad slogan).
163AnonymousOct 15, 2026 22:53
But seriously, grocery prices just keep climbing and climbing, and once they go up they never come back down. They're bound to keep rising further, while pensions move the opposite way and keep shrinking. Japan has become a country where it's simply impossible to live on pension alone anymore.
173AnonymousOct 15, 2026 22:56
Re: #163
If you wanted a leisurely retirement, the only way was to have lots of kids so the next generation could support you. But everyone made excuses, had fewer kids anyway, and now wants a cushy retirement regardless? That's just not happening.
174AnonymousOct 15, 2026 22:56
Re: #163
They probably should have invested to keep up with inflation. But back when today's elderly were working, a lot of people saw stocks as basically gambling — something no respectable person would touch.
178AnonymousOct 15, 2026 22:58
Re: #169
There's no way any working-age person today is naive enough to think they'll live on pension alone. Fifty-year mortgages are even a thing now — everyone's already planning to work until illness makes it impossible to keep going.
183AnonymousOct 15, 2026 23:04
Re: #178
Those 50-year home loans are exactly a trap riding on that assumption, but when you're that young, there's no way you'd see it coming…
187AnonymousOct 15, 2026 23:07
Re: #173-174
The world situation and the economy just keep changing, so there's no way to predict what things will look like by the time we're old ourselves — I bet we'll end up with a lot of regrets once we actually get there.

Re: #178
It really is reckless. Even though life expectancy has gone up, healthy life expectancy is still only around 70. In the old days, healthy life expectancy and lifespan were basically the same thing — now we've just tacked on extra years where your body and brain are falling apart, and you work through illness until you die.
190AnonymousOct 15, 2026 23:17
It's exactly because old people cling on like that that turnover never happens, and new people can't get in.
193AnonymousOct 15, 2026 23:21
Re: #190
That's not it. Workplaces that have no choice but to rely on old people are almost all terrible ("black") companies that young people won't go near in the first place.
194AnonymousOct 15, 2026 23:22
Re: #190
Seriously, though.

Big corporations have turned into full-on nursing homes — nothing new ever gets done, young employees get treated like caregivers, and payroll costs quietly eat the budget so raises are impossible. A perfect triple whammy.

Background and Key Points of This Discussion

From the outset, Japan’s public pension system was designed on the assumption that retirees would combine pension income with severance pay or personal savings — it was never meant to cover living expenses on its own. The real value of pensions has also kept eroding due to mechanisms like “macroeconomic indexing,” which curbs benefit growth relative to inflation. In the thread, opinions clashed between those arguing elderly people generally hold large savings and those countering that individual circumstances vary too much to generalize. Note that the figures cited in the thread about one generation’s share of savings come from a poster’s comment and aren’t backed by a cited source, so some caution is warranted. Healthy life expectancy is said to be around 70, and the reality that many elderly people spend the gap between that and average life expectancy still working underlies the “work while you’re still able” argument. Some also pointed out that elderly people staying in the workforce narrows job opportunities for younger generations, so the debate over fairness between generations looks set to continue.

*This article is excerpted and summarized from the 5ch (News Speed+) thread ““Pension Alone Isn’t Enough to Live On”: Elderly Hope for a Leisurely “Retirement” but Keep Working Anyway.”

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